1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,002 (female announcer)   Production funding for   this program is made 2 00:00:02,002 --> 00:00:11,512 possible in part by.. 3 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:18,852 [soft music] 4 00:00:18,852 --> 00:00:21,655 Hello and welcome to "A Conversation with.." 5 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:25,092 I'm your host, Kelly Cruise and today we have an extraordinary 6 00:00:25,092 --> 00:00:27,461 woman with us that we'll be talking to. 7 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:32,165 She has an illustrious career and a very demanding career 8 00:00:32,165 --> 00:00:33,166 on her resume. 9 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:36,970 But what her biggest battle has been is a fight 10 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:38,639 with breast cancer. 11 00:00:38,639 --> 00:00:40,941 She's a ten year survivor. 12 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:43,176 Welcome to our show, Patricia Brown. 13 00:00:43,176 --> 00:00:44,244 Thank you, Kelly. 14 00:00:44,244 --> 00:00:45,479 Thank you for joining us today. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,813 I'm thrilled. 16 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:48,649 You are amazing, first of all. 17 00:00:48,649 --> 00:00:52,119 You do not look like you're battling cancer. 18 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:54,655 That's what a good make up job will do for you. 19 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:55,989 Thank you though. 20 00:00:55,989 --> 00:01:01,128 No, I've never felt bad   and I've never looked ugly. 21 00:01:01,128 --> 00:01:04,898 But what goes on inside my body is not a pretty picture. 22 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,701 You've been battling it since 2005. 23 00:01:07,701 --> 00:01:08,635 Is that right? 24 00:01:08,635 --> 00:01:10,637 That's correct, May 10. 25 00:01:10,637 --> 00:01:14,975 Let's talk about your history before the battle started. 26 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:20,113 You have a very long career as the president and C-E-O of the 27 00:01:20,113 --> 00:01:22,983 Make-A-Wish Foundation here in the Mid-South. 28 00:01:22,983 --> 00:01:25,552 Tell me a little bit about that and all your experiences 29 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:31,625 granting wishes to children who had very bad illnesses and most 30 00:01:31,625 --> 00:01:33,727 often were facing death. 31 00:01:33,727 --> 00:01:35,095 Yes. 32 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:38,532 Make-A-Wish Foundation is an organization that brings hopes, 33 00:01:38,532 --> 00:01:40,834 strength and joy in to families lives. 34 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:44,237 And for 12 years, I was honored   to serve as their president 35 00:01:44,237 --> 00:01:45,238 and C-E-O. 36 00:01:45,238 --> 00:01:49,843 And I was able to be a part of   over 2000 wishes fulfilled and 37 00:01:49,843 --> 00:01:52,379 about $25 million raised. 38 00:01:52,379 --> 00:01:56,616 It's not an easy task to go in to a person's home where there 39 00:01:56,616 --> 00:01:59,820 is a child that is facing a   life-threatening illness. 40 00:01:59,820 --> 00:02:01,488 It's a family in crisis. 41 00:02:01,488 --> 00:02:05,025 And you learn a lot   about that, and the culture, 42 00:02:05,025 --> 00:02:07,928 and the   spirituality of families. 43 00:02:07,928 --> 00:02:13,467 And it became an opportunity for me to learn not only for myself 44 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:17,204 but for other people of how to cope and deal with tragedy 45 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:19,573 and scary situations. 46 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:23,910 It was the most fulfilling job ever to be able to look at a 47 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:28,715 child that was sad and see that magic come in to the mix and 48 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:29,716 they were glad. 49 00:02:29,716 --> 00:02:32,119 And the parents were always so grateful. 50 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:33,887 It truly was a privilege. 51 00:02:33,887 --> 00:02:35,856 And then it became a passion. 52 00:02:35,856 --> 00:02:38,458 And then it became a fulltime, lifetime, 53 00:02:38,458 --> 00:02:40,227 twenty-four seven job. 54 00:02:40,227 --> 00:02:44,097 And for 12 years, I totally   enjoyed it and was happy to be a 55 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:47,200 part of such an incredible organization. 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,203 And I know through working with Make-A-Wish with you that you 57 00:02:50,203 --> 00:02:52,806 got very close to some of the patients. 58 00:02:52,806 --> 00:02:56,209 Tell me about one or two of those situations. 59 00:02:56,209 --> 00:02:59,746 Well, we met in a wish for a little girl 60 00:02:59,746 --> 00:03:03,784 named   Jennifer Singler. 61 00:03:03,784 --> 00:03:08,155 And Jennifer really still   lives with me in my heart. 62 00:03:08,155 --> 00:03:13,794 The ability for a child that was   12 turning 13 to have an impact 63 00:03:13,794 --> 00:03:18,331 on people, I learned right then it wasn't about how long 64 00:03:18,331 --> 00:03:19,566 you had lived. 65 00:03:19,566 --> 00:03:22,202 It was what you did with your life while you were on Earth. 66 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:26,473 And that child was able to have more effect on people than some 67 00:03:26,473 --> 00:03:28,975 people that lived to be 80. 68 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:30,210 It was startling. 69 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:34,681 And she had such a zest for life and to the point that she came 70 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:38,285 in my office frequently and made her own business cards. 71 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:40,787 And when I'd leave town, she'd leave me notes that she needed 72 00:03:40,787 --> 00:03:42,055 to be left in charge. 73 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:45,592 And then one day, she came in and she was pulling all the hair 74 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:46,593 off of her head. 75 00:03:46,593 --> 00:03:50,097 And I knew what her prognosis was. 76 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:53,266 She I don't think really ever understood that. 77 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:56,503 Kids don't understand life. 78 00:03:56,503 --> 00:03:59,372 So, they don't really get death. 79 00:03:59,372 --> 00:04:00,740 But the adults do. 80 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:03,710 So, as I watched her pull her hair out of her scalp, 81 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:05,645 I was like, "Jennifer, go home and get that stuff 82 00:04:05,645 --> 00:04:07,180 "off your head. 83 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,617 You're making a mess in my office." 84 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:12,886 She came back the next day and she said, 85 00:04:12,886 --> 00:04:14,287 "Now who am I?" 86 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:17,324 And she had a wig on, much like the one I have right now, 87 00:04:17,324 --> 00:04:18,892 and red finger nails. 88 00:04:18,892 --> 00:04:19,793 And I looked at her and I said, 89 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:21,128 "I don't know, Jennifer Singler?" 90 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,295 And she said, "No, I'm you. 91 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:27,033 I want to be you when I grow up." 92 00:04:27,033 --> 00:04:29,035 That's when I knew my job mattered. 93 00:04:29,035 --> 00:04:30,036 It mattered a lot. 94 00:04:30,036 --> 00:04:33,106 Everything I said and did impacted these kids, 95 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,808 and the staff, and the volunteers. 96 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:38,678 And I'm not a perfect person but I took it a lot more seriously 97 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:40,680 after Jennifer Singler came and went. 98 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,153 And it wasn't a good day when we all attended her funeral. 99 00:04:46,153 --> 00:04:50,524 But I was at peace knowing that Jennifer left the earth in a 100 00:04:50,524 --> 00:04:52,826 better place because of her life. 101 00:04:52,826 --> 00:04:56,129 I want to read an excerpt from your manuscript. 102 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:59,266 You're actually hoping to get a   book published in the next year 103 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:00,200 or so. 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,304 This quote says, "She views her time at the Make-A-Wish 105 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:09,142 "Foundation as God's way of giving her on-the-life training 106 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:11,678 that prepared her to   fight her biggest battle." 107 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:16,016 So, when you look back at your years in Make-A-Wish, 108 00:05:16,016 --> 00:05:20,387 do you really feel so much that it really was a way to prepare 109 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:22,389 for your own battle with cancer? 110 00:05:22,389 --> 00:05:23,557 Totally, 100%. 111 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:27,093 It was like going to get a degree in understanding how to 112 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:31,364 be your own advocate, how to   have joy even in the bad times, 113 00:05:31,364 --> 00:05:34,234 how to make fun of yourself   when you're bald and not looking 114 00:05:34,234 --> 00:05:35,735 so cute. 115 00:05:35,735 --> 00:05:37,103 It did prepare me. 116 00:05:37,103 --> 00:05:39,573 And, of course, I learned   a lot about the terminology 117 00:05:39,573 --> 00:05:41,007 and the different diseases. 118 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:45,212 Childhood cancer is so much of what I learned was through my 119 00:05:45,212 --> 00:05:48,815 time with these families hearing their story over and over 120 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:49,816 and again. 121 00:05:49,816 --> 00:05:51,818 It would give me new information. 122 00:05:51,818 --> 00:05:55,722 So, when I had the opportunity to champion my own battle, 123 00:05:55,722 --> 00:05:59,926 I turned myself in to my own   project and I became a granter 124 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:02,562 of wishes for   myself and other people. 125 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:05,765 And I had a lot   of humor with it. 126 00:06:05,765 --> 00:06:12,572 I was able to   powerfully, with confidence, 127 00:06:12,572 --> 00:06:13,773 become my own advocate. 128 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:18,879 Because I understood if I didn't speak up and I didn't learn and 129 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:22,682 I didn't invest in myself, then my odds were not going 130 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:24,818 to be good. 131 00:06:24,818 --> 00:06:27,554 It's extraordinary because you really talk about, 132 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:28,555 in your manuscript.. 133 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:29,556 Let me just.. 134 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:34,594 You said, actually, then it hit you. 135 00:06:34,594 --> 00:06:37,697 You cried and weeped for hours after you were told 136 00:06:37,697 --> 00:06:38,698 you had cancer. 137 00:06:38,698 --> 00:06:42,702 And then remembered "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective 138 00:06:42,702 --> 00:06:48,341 People," habit two -- begin with the end in mind. 139 00:06:48,341 --> 00:06:50,443 That was a hard reality to take. 140 00:06:50,443 --> 00:06:51,444 It is. 141 00:06:51,444 --> 00:06:55,115 But again, through Make-A-Wish, I learned we're all terminal. 142 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:57,917 And there is no way to know whether it's going to happen 143 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:02,922 when you're two years old, or when you're 20, 144 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:04,758 or when you're 80, or 60. 145 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,493 You don't know. 146 00:07:06,493 --> 00:07:08,428 So, begin with the end in mind. 147 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:14,634 And what I wanted to accomplish with my life, 148 00:07:14,634 --> 00:07:17,704 I needed to make sure that I stayed true to my own goals and 149 00:07:17,704 --> 00:07:20,974 wishes and pledged ahead. 150 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:22,575 And I did. 151 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:23,944 You really did. 152 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:24,944 I did. 153 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:27,213 I mean, I don't think a lot of people know that as soon as you 154 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:31,284 had your mastectomy, then you had a staph infection after 155 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,186 that, which had to be excruciating. 156 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:34,654 It was the worst. 157 00:07:34,654 --> 00:07:36,356 Let's talk about that a second now. 158 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:39,225 This is very rare that something like this would happen. 159 00:07:39,225 --> 00:07:42,295 I mean, you had your breasts removed basically, 160 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:44,097 had all this surgery. 161 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:46,833 You were starting reconstructive surgery, correct? 162 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:47,834 (Patricia)   True. 163 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:50,837 And then you find a staph infection in that location. 164 00:07:50,837 --> 00:07:51,838 (Patricia)   Right. 165 00:07:51,838 --> 00:07:52,839 What was that like? 166 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:56,443 Well, it was confusing at first because no one seemed to know 167 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:57,444 what was going on. 168 00:07:57,444 --> 00:08:00,046 I just had a high fever I couldn't get rid of. 169 00:08:00,046 --> 00:08:01,047 There was no signs. 170 00:08:01,047 --> 00:08:03,049 The blood work didn't demonstrate 171 00:08:03,049 --> 00:08:04,050 any kind of infection. 172 00:08:04,050 --> 00:08:05,051 So, it was confusing. 173 00:08:05,051 --> 00:08:08,088 And after about a week of running 103 fever, 174 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:12,225 and then I had symptoms, which was my reconstructed breast was 175 00:08:12,225 --> 00:08:16,496 starting to bruise and ooze pus. 176 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,665 It was like, okay, there's a bigger problem here. 177 00:08:18,665 --> 00:08:22,335 And thanks to friends, you being one of them, 178 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:27,607 we got me in the hospital and that was a week's stay. 179 00:08:27,607 --> 00:08:32,912 And two surgeries of debriding the area to the point my fist 180 00:08:32,912 --> 00:08:36,049 could almost fit in my chest wall. 181 00:08:36,049 --> 00:08:38,051 They did not think the wound would heal. 182 00:08:38,051 --> 00:08:39,953 And I went, oh yes it is. 183 00:08:39,953 --> 00:08:42,122 Because I got the power of the Holy Ghost in me. 184 00:08:42,122 --> 00:08:47,127 And I went on a prayer   campaign with friends and family 185 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:48,128 across the country. 186 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:49,996 And it was wonderful. 187 00:08:49,996 --> 00:08:53,767 After 30 days, seeing a   wound specialist in my bedroom, 188 00:08:53,767 --> 00:08:55,769 because they had to debride it every other day, 189 00:08:55,769 --> 00:09:00,240 look at me, because he was the guy who said it may never heal, 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,242 and said, "I've witnessed a miracle. 191 00:09:02,242 --> 00:09:07,113 I have never seen this in my 25 years of wound care." 192 00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:11,217 And I said, I told ya! 193 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:14,454 And so, that was my approach to everything was, 194 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:17,857 no, it's in Jesus' hands. 195 00:09:17,857 --> 00:09:19,292 He's the determiner. 196 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:20,293 I'm just a vehicle. 197 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:24,731 You know, when you say this, a lot of times I hear you refer 198 00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:25,732 to your faith. 199 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:30,403 And I've actually heard people who have had cancer say, 200 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:34,641 shockingly, cancer has been a blessing in my life. 201 00:09:34,641 --> 00:09:36,776 And obviously you think that. 202 00:09:36,776 --> 00:09:38,077 I do think that. 203 00:09:38,077 --> 00:09:43,116 I feel honored to get the   opportunity to do the journey 204 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:44,184 of battling cancer. 205 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:47,387 It is a gift I think. 206 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:49,022 I don't like it. 207 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:50,290 I wish I   didn't have it. 208 00:09:50,290 --> 00:09:52,292 It affects my   life and lifestyle. 209 00:09:52,292 --> 00:09:53,293 It's not fun. 210 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:54,861 It's not pretty. 211 00:09:54,861 --> 00:09:57,864 The drugs are -- have   interesting side effects that 212 00:09:57,864 --> 00:10:00,266 aren't very enjoyable. 213 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:04,237 That is not good. 214 00:10:04,237 --> 00:10:08,208 But what is good of it is it did increase my spirituality. 215 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:12,879 It has impacted hundreds   of other people's lives. 216 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:15,815 Not just the people I meet in   the chemo clinics but I get 217 00:10:15,815 --> 00:10:19,853 written to by lots of people   that say I made a difference 218 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:20,854 in their life. 219 00:10:20,854 --> 00:10:21,855 And it's not me. 220 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:23,156 It's my battle. 221 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:24,424 It's how   I championed it. 222 00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:26,626 And it's to glorify God. 223 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:33,833 Because without that strength and that core belief that he has 224 00:10:33,833 --> 00:10:35,034 a plan and a purpose. 225 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:41,307 He had the end in mind for me when I was born that then this 226 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:42,709 would just be a sickness. 227 00:10:42,709 --> 00:10:43,710 It's not. 228 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:45,245 It's an opportunity. 229 00:10:45,245 --> 00:10:48,548 And I do seize it and have fun with it and make fun of myself. 230 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:52,585 And if I die today, I'm all good. 231 00:10:52,585 --> 00:10:55,455 Well, I don't think you're going to be dying anytime soon. 232 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:57,457 I mean, really, actually, recently, 233 00:10:57,457 --> 00:11:02,028 I mean, it's been recent that you got the word flying from 234 00:11:02,028 --> 00:11:04,864 M-D Anderson on a recent check-up that, 235 00:11:04,864 --> 00:11:07,000 you know, you were doing so much better. 236 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,604 And then you find in your paperwork flying back to 237 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:15,842 Northwest Arkansas something about your brain in this 238 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:17,577 paperwork that nobody caught. 239 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:19,379 And so, tell me about that. 240 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:21,948 That's why you have to be your own advocate and get copies of 241 00:11:21,948 --> 00:11:26,119 all your clinical information so that you read it 242 00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:27,220 and understand it. 243 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:30,757 Yeah, it's kind of shocking to be on a plane and it says 244 00:11:30,757 --> 00:11:34,394 there's edema in the brain from the pet scan they discovered. 245 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:37,630 And I'm like, "Edema in the brain?" 246 00:11:37,630 --> 00:11:40,099 And seizures are possible. 247 00:11:40,099 --> 00:11:42,435 And they recommended I have a brain M-R-I. 248 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:43,903 And nothing had been said. 249 00:11:43,903 --> 00:11:45,905 So, you know, you get off the plane, 250 00:11:45,905 --> 00:11:46,906 you make a phone call. 251 00:11:46,906 --> 00:11:48,908 Of course they're not in the office. 252 00:11:48,908 --> 00:11:49,909 And it was a couple of days. 253 00:11:49,909 --> 00:11:51,911 By the time I got the word, I had already scheduled 254 00:11:51,911 --> 00:11:52,912 my own brain M-R-I. 255 00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:59,552 And yes, went in and here we're conquering the reoccurrence Mets 256 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:00,687 in my body. 257 00:12:00,687 --> 00:12:03,656 And then, all of a sudden, it's in my brain? 258 00:12:03,656 --> 00:12:06,025 Well, that's the goal of cancer -- to get in your brain 259 00:12:06,025 --> 00:12:07,427 and kill you. 260 00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:11,731 So, I was scared but it was like, 261 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,434 okay, we just got to figure out what to do. 262 00:12:14,434 --> 00:12:15,435 So.. 263 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:17,837 I did 15 rounds   of brain radiation. 264 00:12:17,837 --> 00:12:20,707 Took my hair, made me   kind of half way crazy, 265 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:22,642 and silly, and goofy, and ditzy. 266 00:12:22,642 --> 00:12:24,811 And they wouldn't let me drive for two months. 267 00:12:24,811 --> 00:12:33,620 So, be alone, be in your home, can't drive, can't work. 268 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:35,154 I said I got to find a purpose. 269 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:36,756 Change of life experience. 270 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,926 So, I started finding different   non-profits that I could do some 271 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:43,596 philanthropy with and   strategic planning. 272 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,198 And I could   do that from home. 273 00:12:45,198 --> 00:12:47,634 I cannot not   have a purpose. 274 00:12:47,634 --> 00:12:48,868 (Kelly)   Energizer Bunny. 275 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:54,340 And kind of goofy Energizer Bunny at times but always fun 276 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:55,875 and with a good end result. 277 00:12:55,875 --> 00:12:59,679 And thankfully, I'm good. 278 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,249 But in May when they told me I might have months to live, 279 00:13:03,249 --> 00:13:05,118 it was time to plan my funeral. 280 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:06,552 You know, I'm an event planner. 281 00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:08,554 I wasn't going to have a boring funeral. 282 00:13:08,554 --> 00:13:09,555 I had to get with it. 283 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:10,556 You know, get on the stick. 284 00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:11,557 And so, I did. 285 00:13:11,557 --> 00:13:14,494 I did all the pre-arrangements,   got speakers lined up, 286 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:16,462 got musicians lined up. 287 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:19,799 And if I was only going   to live a few months, 288 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,901 I was going to go   out with a bang. 289 00:13:21,901 --> 00:13:24,537 But obviously you passed that. 290 00:13:24,537 --> 00:13:27,006 And didn't they call you a miracle again? 291 00:13:27,006 --> 00:13:32,078 I've had numerous front row seats to miracles. 292 00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:36,783 So, today, how are those brain tumors? 293 00:13:36,783 --> 00:13:37,784 They're almost gone. 294 00:13:37,784 --> 00:13:45,892 The tumors that were in my lungs and the spots on my bones they 295 00:13:45,892 --> 00:13:48,361 believe are totally inactive now. 296 00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:53,099 And then the spots in my brain are almost all gone except for 297 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,300 just a few. 298 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:58,404 And they've all diminished over half the size in the course of 299 00:13:58,404 --> 00:14:00,773 this last six months. 300 00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:02,909 How does this make you feel? 301 00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:05,011 Blessed, very blessed. 302 00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:06,813 And happy, and joyous. 303 00:14:06,813 --> 00:14:10,983 And it gives me the energy and the attitude to continue to tell 304 00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:12,452 the story. 305 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:14,687 I want people to understand there is more to life 306 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,589 than death. 307 00:14:16,589 --> 00:14:18,925 That's a given. 308 00:14:18,925 --> 00:14:21,227 But what are you doing every single day? 309 00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:23,096 Seize the day. 310 00:14:23,096 --> 00:14:24,263 (Kelly)   You do seize the day. 311 00:14:24,263 --> 00:14:25,131 I want to hear. 312 00:14:25,131 --> 00:14:28,534 Go back about your career because this woman's career 313 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:32,739 looks like a lifetime of somebody maybe 100 years old. 314 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:34,774 (Patricia)   I feel like it sometimes. 315 00:14:34,774 --> 00:14:38,811 But you started out being a dental hygienist years ago. 316 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:42,081 And then you worked at Porter-Leath Children's Home. 317 00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:44,083 Then you went to Make-A-Wish. 318 00:14:44,083 --> 00:14:45,351 There for 12 years? 319 00:14:45,351 --> 00:14:46,352 Yeah, 12 years. 320 00:14:46,352 --> 00:14:49,789 Started the John Daly Make-A-Wish golf tournament. 321 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:51,057 That is amazing. 322 00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:54,227 And then even after you had the breast cancer, 323 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,028 you actually toured? 324 00:14:56,028 --> 00:14:58,097 I had it but I didn't know I had it. 325 00:14:58,097 --> 00:15:02,802 But I was touring with him and working exclusively for John 326 00:15:02,802 --> 00:15:04,704 with his   charitable foundation. 327 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:10,476 It's kind of hard to be in a   different city every week and 328 00:15:10,476 --> 00:15:12,545 then, also fight breast cancer   and be in the chemo clinic. 329 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:16,149 So, we discontinued the professional relationship. 330 00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:17,450 We're still good friends. 331 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:21,087 And then later on, when I went to work for the nationwide tour, 332 00:15:21,087 --> 00:15:23,089 the P-G-A tour event in Fort Smith, Arknasas 333 00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:25,358 as their tournament director, 334 00:15:25,358 --> 00:15:29,662 I recruited John to come back and work with me again. 335 00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:33,099 This time, I'm the director and he's just a golfer. 336 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:37,670 Let's talk about that because really you are the only female 337 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:41,107 to ever have that position in the nation, correct? 338 00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:43,109 Right, female tournament director. 339 00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:47,146 I did not realize when I got the position that was the case. 340 00:15:47,146 --> 00:15:49,949 I went to their annual meeting. 341 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,951 And I'm like, where's the other girls. 342 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,152 They said, no, you're it. 343 00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:56,189 You're the only one that's ever been hired out of a pool of men 344 00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:58,324 to be the female tournament director. 345 00:15:58,324 --> 00:15:59,959 My predecessor was a female. 346 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:03,029 But she had promoted in to the job. 347 00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:05,798 But I'm like, what? 348 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:10,469 And then the different ladies that were support staff for the 349 00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:12,471 guys, they were coming up to me. 350 00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:15,474 You broke through the ceiling and maybe we'll have a chance. 351 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:16,709 And I was like, wow. 352 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:20,012 I mean, it wasn't like something I set out to do. 353 00:16:20,012 --> 00:16:23,649 I just needed a job in Arkansas and I was qualified. 354 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:27,119 Were these people knowing of your breast cancer? 355 00:16:27,119 --> 00:16:28,120 No. 356 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,589 (Kelly)   Did they ever find out? 357 00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,290 Oh, yeah. 358 00:16:31,290 --> 00:16:36,195 Because I started a new program called Pink on the Links. 359 00:16:36,195 --> 00:16:39,932 It was the only dedicated today   in the P-G-A Tour history back, 360 00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:42,835 I mean,   a few years ago. 361 00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:47,306 They all came out and supported   breast cancer awareness by 362 00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:49,642 wearing pink   during tournament play. 363 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:50,643 That was   the big thing. 364 00:16:50,643 --> 00:16:53,946 And it was recognized by   the national tour as one 365 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,147 of the best practices. 366 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:59,752 And in the next year, I was able   to go on stage after being asked 367 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:02,121 what qualified me to be a   tournament director and 368 00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:05,791 explained to them,   here's why. 369 00:17:05,791 --> 00:17:09,929 Branding, marketing, fundraising and I'm creative. 370 00:17:09,929 --> 00:17:11,931 I came up with Pink on the Links. 371 00:17:11,931 --> 00:17:12,932 What 'chu got? 372 00:17:12,932 --> 00:17:13,933 (Kelly)   Wow. 373 00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:17,536 Again, you know, your manuscript that you're writing and hope to 374 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:22,074 published soon in to a book, you talk about at one point, 375 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:24,076 you know, when you got your head shaved, 376 00:17:24,076 --> 00:17:26,746 that you looked in the mirror in the morning and realized, 377 00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:29,115 "I am my dad." 378 00:17:29,115 --> 00:17:30,116 (Patricia)   Yes. 379 00:17:30,116 --> 00:17:33,119 (Kelly)   It's extraordinary when you   look at this picture and finally 380 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,390 figure out, "I really   do look like my father." 381 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:38,391 (Patricia)   Right. 382 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:39,759 It's another blessing. 383 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:41,761 You know, I wouldn't have ever known that 384 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:42,762 if I didn't have hair. 385 00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:44,897 I was brushing my teeth and I went, 386 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:46,232 I'm George Redden. 387 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,233 Oh my gosh. 388 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,835 And I went out and asked my brother. 389 00:17:49,835 --> 00:17:51,837 I was like, "Who do I look like?" 390 00:17:51,837 --> 00:17:54,240 And he went, "Dad but I won't tell." 391 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,408 Because he's bald, you know. 392 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:56,475 Almost bald, you know. 393 00:17:56,475 --> 00:17:57,810 And I'm like, oh my! 394 00:17:57,810 --> 00:18:00,479 And then I went and lived with my parents for six weeks while I 395 00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:04,116 did radiation   therapy back in 2005. 396 00:18:04,116 --> 00:18:07,053 And I learned we   like the same food. 397 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:09,355 We like the   same T-V shows. 398 00:18:09,355 --> 00:18:11,257 It was,   again, a blessing. 399 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:16,195 I would have never gone as an   adult to live with my parents 400 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:17,463 for six weeks. 401 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:22,535 And I would have not known how much I'm like my family. 402 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:23,536 A blessing. 403 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:27,907 You talk, also, about the devastation of losing your hair. 404 00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:30,576 But you've actually had fun with that. 405 00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:33,245 Talk about how you're the Energizer Bunny. 406 00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:35,948 Let's talk about some of those experiences, 407 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:37,183 the henna crown. 408 00:18:37,183 --> 00:18:38,184 (Patricia)   Well, okay. 409 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:40,386 When everybody sees you with a bald head, 410 00:18:40,386 --> 00:18:41,921 they look at you so pitiful. 411 00:18:41,921 --> 00:18:45,191 And I'm like, you know, I don't want them to feel bad and I 412 00:18:45,191 --> 00:18:46,192 don't want to feel bad. 413 00:18:46,192 --> 00:18:47,193 And it's awkward. 414 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:52,298 So, I went and had my head tattooed. 415 00:18:52,298 --> 00:18:53,532 Not permanent, with henna. 416 00:18:53,532 --> 00:18:55,201 And it was a henna crown. 417 00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:59,605 And therefore,   people look at me differently 418 00:18:59,605 --> 00:19:00,573 and they react differently. 419 00:19:00,573 --> 00:19:02,341 And I chanced it. 420 00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:04,710 I was at a concert and I had a hat on. 421 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,046 And I decided I was going to pull this hat off right here and 422 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:08,080 now and see what happens. 423 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,450 And it was like I was the most popular person walking out of 424 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,785 the ladies room. 425 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:13,786 That is so cool! 426 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:14,787 That is wonderful! 427 00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:17,823 And from then on, I realized, okay, 428 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:22,528 let's do things with this and make people laugh or smile or be 429 00:19:22,528 --> 00:19:26,665 amazed and not pitiful because I don't have any hair 430 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:27,933 and I'm probably sick. 431 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:29,402 And I am sick. 432 00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:30,436 I mean, technically. 433 00:19:30,436 --> 00:19:34,507 I have a disease but don't pity me. 434 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:37,176 I mean, yeah, if you want to bring me a casserole, 435 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,211 I'm all about it. 436 00:19:39,211 --> 00:19:40,980 But don't feel sorry for me. 437 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,115 I'm happy. 438 00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:46,485 On your blog, you do a blog regularly with the City Wire. 439 00:19:46,485 --> 00:19:50,756 And also, you have a Facebook page that you blog on regularly. 440 00:19:50,756 --> 00:19:54,994 And you have people from all over the world following you and 441 00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:58,864 getting news from you and learning more about how to deal 442 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,667 with cancer, how to have humor during cancer. 443 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:05,738 You said you even have people from, 444 00:20:05,738 --> 00:20:08,941 like, South Africa contacting you. 445 00:20:08,941 --> 00:20:11,377 I have a great lady that I've never met, of course. 446 00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:13,079 She's not been here and I've not been there. 447 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:16,782 But we chat sometimes at 3:00 a-m when I can't sleep. 448 00:20:16,782 --> 00:20:19,618 And it's amazing. 449 00:20:19,618 --> 00:20:21,620 I feel like I know her. 450 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:23,389 I feel like I know a lot of these people. 451 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:28,194 You hang up a telephone call   from someone that responds to a 452 00:20:28,194 --> 00:20:31,097 blog and right   before you hang up, 453 00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:33,432 the lady is in   Pennsylvania and she says, 454 00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:36,702 "For the first   time, I have hope." 455 00:20:36,702 --> 00:20:37,870 See, it's a blessing. 456 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:39,138 And it's an opportunity. 457 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:41,207 And it's a calling. 458 00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:44,076 I'm Helpy Helperson and I'm a fixer. 459 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:49,415 And I want to share everything I have learned and be helpful and 460 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:51,117 an encourager to people. 461 00:20:51,117 --> 00:20:55,321 I don't care if it's cancer or some other disease 462 00:20:55,321 --> 00:20:57,022 or a family problem. 463 00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:58,858 There is always hope. 464 00:20:58,858 --> 00:21:01,794 And you just can't let Satan steal your joy. 465 00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:05,664 Well, I remember you telling me one time you were getting 466 00:21:05,664 --> 00:21:06,665 a little bored. 467 00:21:06,665 --> 00:21:10,269 You were how many years in to your remission? 468 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,271 I think five years, seven years. 469 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:16,008 Seven years in remission and you actually remember praying and 470 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:18,177 saying, "God, I'm getting a little bored. 471 00:21:18,177 --> 00:21:19,211 Give me a project." 472 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:21,814 And then tell me what happened almost immediately thereafter. 473 00:21:21,814 --> 00:21:23,682 Well, right then I was afraid. 474 00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:27,253 I went, oh my gosh, he's going to let me go through this again. 475 00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:29,155 And sure enough. 476 00:21:29,155 --> 00:21:32,992 I mean, I knew when I got the phone call after my routine 477 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:38,030 bloodwork that it appeared tumor markers were telling them that 478 00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,799 the cancer might have come back. 479 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:43,936 And generally when you have breast cancer, 480 00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,938 it doesn't come back in your breasts. 481 00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:46,939 Your breasts are gone. 482 00:21:46,939 --> 00:21:48,274 It comes back somewhere else. 483 00:21:48,274 --> 00:21:52,912 And in my case, it was my hip, my right hip and my lymph nodes 484 00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:53,913 in my lung. 485 00:21:53,913 --> 00:21:57,449 And a lot of people don't know that breast cancer does not ever 486 00:21:57,449 --> 00:21:58,918 become another cancer. 487 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:02,354 It's just that the breast cancer has morphed a little bit and 488 00:22:02,354 --> 00:22:04,356 gone in to these other organs and, 489 00:22:04,356 --> 00:22:06,358 of course, eventually in to your brain. 490 00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:07,359 Yes. 491 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,361 When it gets in to your lymph nodes.. 492 00:22:09,361 --> 00:22:11,363 So, cells circulate through your system. 493 00:22:11,363 --> 00:22:14,834 That's why you di chemotherapy is to treat the full body and 494 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,836 try to kill all those cells off. 495 00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:20,039 And we were very successful in 2005. 496 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,641 And there was no evidence of disease. 497 00:22:22,641 --> 00:22:25,678 And then seven years later, there was. 498 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:29,648 Well, here you are looking the picture of health. 499 00:22:29,648 --> 00:22:31,817 And you've beaten the odds so many times, 500 00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:33,819 been called a miracle so many times. 501 00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:38,691 Where do you see your life going in the next five to ten years? 502 00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:42,127 Well, God obviously has the end in mind. 503 00:22:42,127 --> 00:22:44,129 And I just kind of float along with him. 504 00:22:44,129 --> 00:22:49,068 However, it seems that I've become a requested public 505 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:53,305 speaker, which was one of my   wishes and dreams and prayers 506 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:56,041 when I had my reoccurrence to   be a national public speaker. 507 00:22:56,041 --> 00:23:00,980 And I get to do that on a big   stage in front of lots of people 508 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:04,583 and stomp my foot and   tell people to work harder 509 00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:05,584 and quit   your whining. 510 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:10,089 And I just have a joyful   time in sharing with people 511 00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:11,190 as a speaker. 512 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:14,526 I also didn't really understand that I had the talent of writing 513 00:23:14,526 --> 00:23:16,128 until I started blogging. 514 00:23:16,128 --> 00:23:18,397 And I've been a blogger for two-and-a-half years. 515 00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:22,501 And I am able to also blog on other publications besides the 516 00:23:22,501 --> 00:23:23,636 Citywire.com. 517 00:23:23,636 --> 00:23:28,407 But that lead in to coming off the stage one time 518 00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:31,210 and being a blogger. 519 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:33,779 A marketing group came up to me and said, 520 00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:35,014 "You need to write a book." 521 00:23:35,014 --> 00:23:38,217 Well, that was also another prayer that I had two-and-a-half 522 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:41,854 years ago was to be a writer and write a book and tell my story. 523 00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:45,424 Because I think it's entertaining and informative. 524 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:46,425 It's very entertaining. 525 00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:47,426 It's not boring. 526 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,228 I don't do boring real well. 527 00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:52,598 And it's also a tribute to a lot of people that have helped me 528 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:53,799 through this. 529 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:55,301 I mean, I'm one person. 530 00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:57,303 I can't do this just by myself. 531 00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:59,338 And I've had friends, and girlfriends, 532 00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:03,375 and guy friends, and family, and doctors, and nurses. 533 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:07,680 I mean, I've had a team of people that have allowed me to 534 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:14,019 get to this point to where I can broadcast through this show and 535 00:24:14,019 --> 00:24:16,522 through my speaking and writing. 536 00:24:16,522 --> 00:24:18,891 And then I spend a lot of   time with philanthropies. 537 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:19,892 I'm a fixer. 538 00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:21,894 I'm sort of a   non-profit doctor. 539 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:22,895 I go in. 540 00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:24,897 When they have a   problem, I diagnose them, 541 00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:29,668 create a strategic plan or a   treatment plan and then we get 542 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:32,204 to work and make the   world a better place. 543 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:34,206 Move the needle, make a difference. 544 00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:35,207 That's my goal. 545 00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:37,910 Well, with hopefully your book being published soon, 546 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:42,981 for all the viewers out there who are either battling cancer 547 00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:46,785 or may find out near in the future that they're going 548 00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:47,786 to have cancer. 549 00:24:47,786 --> 00:24:51,123 So, if you have one thing to say to these ladies, 550 00:24:51,123 --> 00:24:52,791 what would you say? 551 00:24:52,791 --> 00:24:54,293 Get a mammogram. 552 00:24:54,293 --> 00:24:56,962 Don't be always satisfied with that. 553 00:24:56,962 --> 00:24:58,697 Go get a diagnostic mammogram. 554 00:24:58,697 --> 00:25:01,800 And you have to become your own advocate. 555 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,737 Do not put your head in the sand. 556 00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:06,205 Take care of yourself. 557 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:09,141 Get healthy now before you get the diagnosis. 558 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:13,178 That's one of the key things that has created the opportunity 559 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:16,849 for the miracles to happen is that I was healthy 560 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:17,950 to begin with. 561 00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:19,051 Never ever sick. 562 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,152 Didn't have diabetes. 563 00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:21,253 No heart problems. 564 00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:24,556 So, therefore my range of options from a treatment 565 00:25:24,556 --> 00:25:25,657 standpoint is wider. 566 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:30,796 And then when you have a gut in your feeling -- a feeling in 567 00:25:30,796 --> 00:25:33,732 your gut that you -- something isn't right, 568 00:25:33,732 --> 00:25:35,200 get a second opinion. 569 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,301 I did. 570 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:39,138 And if I hadn't, I wouldn't have -- I would not be sitting here 571 00:25:39,138 --> 00:25:40,139 right now. 572 00:25:40,139 --> 00:25:41,140 (Kelly)   That's huge. 573 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,675 And you also said, I believe, in your manuscript 574 00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:45,644 to see an oncologist. 575 00:25:45,644 --> 00:25:46,645 Very important. 576 00:25:46,645 --> 00:25:50,349 Very first thing you do after you do your yearly mammogram is 577 00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:57,356 if you do or they think -- even think there's a possibility of 578 00:25:57,356 --> 00:26:00,426 cancer, go to an   oncologist first thing. 579 00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:02,428 And let him be   your quarterback. 580 00:26:02,428 --> 00:26:06,331 He will be your friend for the   rest of your life because just 581 00:26:06,331 --> 00:26:10,469 because they have no evidence as a disease to go in to remission, 582 00:26:10,469 --> 00:26:14,072 or say you're cancer-free, those cells were in your body at one 583 00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:16,074 time and they can come back. 584 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:19,478 I am a living example of that. 585 00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:22,848 So, your oncologist is your best friend. 586 00:26:22,848 --> 00:26:25,984 You know, you can like your surgeon and love your plastic 587 00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:30,155 surgeon, but your oncologist is the key. 588 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:31,590 (Kelly)   Very good words. 589 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:34,593 Patricia Brown, thank you for being on our show tonight 590 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:35,594 with us. 591 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,763 You've really given an insight in to what it's like 592 00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:38,764 to have cancer. 593 00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:41,700 We appreciate you so much being on our show and sharing. 594 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:42,768 Well, you're most welcome. 595 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:43,769 My pleasure. 596 00:26:43,769 --> 00:26:57,382 [soft music] 597 00:26:57,382 --> 00:27:01,382 CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY WKNO, MEMPHIS.