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>> We begin our conversations

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with candidates and this year's

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general election. And today's

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program, you learn more about

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the Democratic and Republican

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nominees for Kentucky State

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treasurer that's now on

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>> thank you for for

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connections today. I'm Renee

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Shaw, the Kentucky state

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treasurer essentially acts as

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the state's chief financial

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officer and handles the state's

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checkbook. All the money you

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pay in taxes goes through that

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office. The treasurer also sits

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on several boards and

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commissions, including the

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Kentucky teachers retirement

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system and the Kentucky

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Lottery. The Kentucky state

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treasurer is among the

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constitutional offices along

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with Governor. Kentuckians will

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decide in November. The current

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officeholder Republican Allison

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Ball is term limited Democrat

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Michael Bowman and Republican

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Mark Metcalf are each hoping

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to replace her. Here's my

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conversation with Michael

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Bowman who saw this post

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Mister Bowman. It's a pleasure

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to have you on the program

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today. We appreciate your time.

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Thanks for inviting me. Thank

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you. So tell me we want to

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learn a little bit more about

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you will hear a lot more about

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your positions. Perhaps we have

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you on the Kentucky tonight

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engagement. But tell us about

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you. I know you're a 6

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generation, Kentucky. And as

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you've said on one of your

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videos on your website.

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>> And you come from a union

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homes and give us some more

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detail. You know, it's going to

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raise Valley station southwest

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Louisville.

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>> I am a my father was a 40

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year member of the Postal

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Workers Union. you know,

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growing up, I had the

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experience understanding what

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the union met for a home like

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mine that it provided good

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paying jobs benefits, things

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that could support a put food

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on the table and a roof over

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your head. So that's why I'm

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always proud to say that and

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I'm proud of the work that my

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father throughout his working

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working who is now retired.

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He's good. He's enjoying his

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retirement. you know, that's

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that's my background. And

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that's part of the reason why

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I take positions. because of

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those experiences growing up.

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I am went to holy Cross high

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school as well as the

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University of Louisville and

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worked for the governor as well

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as for the Louisville Metro

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Council and then some time as a

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a bank officer embrace manager

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for a U.S. bank. So so you can

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throw those cells with Well,

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you know, I'm a Kentucky haha.

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in that respect as well.

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time at U of L, but that's

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still very

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>> h******* bleeding blue, OK?

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All right, Ali, back there.

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That could be a pretty divisive

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discussion on it sounds what

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this is not your first foray

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into running for statewide

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office and you also run and

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Jefferson County as well.

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So tell us why it this time in

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your life and then times you've

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run before.

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>> That being in public service

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in an elected office is

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important to you? Well, I think

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it's it's the quality of of

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the individuals that are

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stepping up.

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people who have obtained

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elected office through a of a

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variety of hate to say it.

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not prepared and aren't

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qualified for the job that they

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have. And, you know, my

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background is unique in that.

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I've worked in local

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government, worked in state

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government as well in the

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private sector as a bank

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officer for a large financial

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institutions. So I have a lot

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of skills that I can bring to

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bear In particular. The

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treasurer's office is what

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comes to what I'm speaking now,

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you know, 4 years ago, I

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contended I was the most

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qualified person.

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Kentucky chose to remain with

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with the current treasure.

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I am the most qualified person,

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in fact, would be the first in

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nearly 40 years elected to the

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job that has any type of

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financial experience. So I

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think that's going to be

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important as we look forward.

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of my mind is where we moving

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as a commonwealth. What do we

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need for the moment? And can I

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can I do anything to help in

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that? And I I believe I can.

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>> Oftentimes the bill, what

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we call down ballot

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constitutional officers, they

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express themselves about issues

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that particularly in may not

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be related to the duties of the

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office for which they are

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applying. Right. And you said

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that's the lure that leaders

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now in Frankfort, which

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majority Republican are putting

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quote the wrong thing first.

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in what would you be able to

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do if you're elected estate

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as state treasurer to undo what

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you see as the wrong things

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those leaders are doing

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certainly, you know, I think of

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Governor Beshear has showing us

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what it

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>> that looks he is not quick

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to be drawn into cultural

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issues, debates or debates

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honestly about basic human

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rights. That shouldn't be

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debatable. He focuses on what's

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important, creating jobs for

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Kentucky, ensuring that we are

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educating our next generation

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in our children and that we're

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doing the right things by

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keeping our promises to people

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like our teachers are state

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workers are our first

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responders. Those are the

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things that at the end of the

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day, I believe is what is most

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important to people in

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Kentuckyian we focus on that

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and we don't get drawn into

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these unnecessary debate and we

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can actually come together and

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build consensus. That's how we

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move things forward. You know,

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I would be a unique position

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as treasurer. One of only 7

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people elected statewide for

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state government. And that

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gives me a position to be able

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to talk about that, whether

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it's in Louisville, Lexington

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or in Pike County or Fulton

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we get past these. They're

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looking at the wrong things.

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Is that stated and moving us

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towards.

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Paying attention to what's

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important. And that's jobs.

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Are our families making sure we

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have people that are being

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educated properly and they were

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moving Kentucky in that

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direction. Many people would

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say that, yes, those issues are

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important. We call them

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sometimes the bread and butter

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the table, the kitchen table

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conversations right?

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issues like abortion and the

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some of the transgender issues

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that have come to the fore of

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light are also important to

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many Kentuckians who feel

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perhaps maybe differently than

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you and your fail and you're

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you're the the those who are

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running this year under the

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Democratic Party's so is the

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Democratic Party out of step

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with what up the majority of

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focused on. Well, I'm not going

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to be to the party as a whole.

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I can speak for myself as far

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as I've been endorsed by

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organizations like Planned

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Parenthood, Planned Parenthood,

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the forefront of ensuring that

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women, reproductive women's

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reproductive health is being

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protected as well as the

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fairness campaign and ensuring

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that LGBTQ rights are being

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respected and those are those

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are issues that when they come

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up, I'm ready to defend my

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positions and ensure that we as

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a government are doing the

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right. Thanks for those people.

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focus. Our focus should be

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what's important to to people

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in terms of jobs in terms of

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ensuring that they have what

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they need, the education that

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they're receiving. And I'm not

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saying the 3rd not

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interconnected in some ways and

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a lot of ways they are. But

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when we focus on those things

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and not those those culture

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issues, those what again, and

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not trying to categorize them

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all in one as calling them a

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culture war. But when we're

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talking about those issues like

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human rights and LGBTQ rights

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and women's That shouldn't be

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up for the government to decide

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it should be the individuals

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that they have. They that they

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should be able to exercise

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those rights as people. They

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have every constitutional right

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as anyone else. So

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they need jobs. We need

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education. And that's what the

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focus should be when we do

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those things, we can build

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consensus in and take us

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ourselves out of that culture

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war. I think that's where we'll

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be able to move Kentucky

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forward up a pass away. And

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again, like I said, the

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governor has shown that he's

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not going to be drawn

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into that. And, yeah, I believe

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that's the best way to go.

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>> When you travel the state, I

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know you're probably doing that

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extensively. You probably have

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somewhere to go after you

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finish with the with us or do

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people understand the office

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of state treasurer?

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>> You know, by and large,

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there are some that There are

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quite a few people who they

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they they know what the word

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treasure would generally mean

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when it comes to their PTA or

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social clubs. But it is

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something that we do have to

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explain more often than not

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and how in-depth it goes.

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I believe that's something that

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a lot of people don't realize

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is it's not just about

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balancing the checkbook.

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It's ensuring that we're having

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providing that independent

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accountability for our tax

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dollars. And, you know, the

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treasure sits on a variety of

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boards and commissions. The

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lottery board, the Higher

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Education Authority, the the

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Financial Commission, as well

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as the investment commission

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and the Teachers Retirement

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Board, which are, as we know,

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been critical over the last few

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years. In terms of how we are

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dealing with policy around the

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teachers, pensions, how are

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investing our money? And that's

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where the treasure can have

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an outsized influence. And I

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think that's once people

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realize how deep the treasure

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the treasurer's writ large is

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involved in those decisions

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is when they realize it's and

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it's an important office that

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needs to be independently

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elected. We don't want to wrap

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it up in the bureaucracy.

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We want to ensure that they are

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being held accountable to the

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people directly rather you

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know, at the whim of the

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governor or legislature.

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>> And you hit on a point that

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has been a point of contention

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about whether or not that the

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state treasurer's office should

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be even an elected one right to

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you. And it seems that you are

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intimating that it needs to

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remain as it is. comes down to

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who who should be accountable

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to the people for your tax

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dollars and an independently

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elected person ensures that

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a governor.

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>> Doesn't have the unchecked a

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bureaucratic, you know,

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leverage that to manage that

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act. The tax act like that and

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just as well as the

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Legislature, we KET it

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independent for that very

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There's there's a variety of

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history as to why we did that.

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You know, before that the

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Constitution was amended in the

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the late 1800's. It was an

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appointed position by the

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governor. So we may get elected

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for a Very particular reason.

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And I believe that still holds

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true today. I would rather have

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more accountability. That's

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that's directly influenced by

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the people of Kentucky. Then

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not. And I think that's why the

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treasures job should remain

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elected. The other

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responsibilities that you

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listed about the number of

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boards that the state treasurer

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serves on.

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>> Unclaimed property is

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probably one thing that a lot

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of Kentucky citizen citizens

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understand and more connected

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to or know about in some way

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because perhaps they have

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benefited from that. And we

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know that the current

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treasurer, who is a Republican

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Allison Ball, has had record

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setting levels of unclaimed

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property

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being restored, monetarily or

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otherwise to Kentucky ends.

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This is the lost and found if

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you will. A lot of people

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applaud that program. Do you

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think it needs changing in any

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way and would you give her

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kudos for the job she's done in

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handling that particular part

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of the job? I would say that,

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yes, there are ways to improve

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that that program. I think you

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know, given technology being

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what it is today, there are

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certainly ways that we can make

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it into the more easily

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accessible and less cumbersome.

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One of the biggest complaint I

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hear from people about.

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>> The unclaimed property

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process is that it is overly

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cumbersome and I think that

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again, with technology being

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what it is, there is no reason

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why we can't do that. And the

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first in the unclaimed property

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fund itself is a source of the

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revenue to be able to implement

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those changes without really

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tapping into general fund

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dollars. So those are those are

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things and it in a moment

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ministration in the treasurer's

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office would something that we

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would we would You I think that

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this is the treasure has been

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responsible for unclaimed

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property. We've seen the fund

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itself grow from Treasure.

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Miller's.

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200 and roughly 200 million

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dollars to now. It sits at

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around 800 million dollars as a

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fun. So I think it's yes, I'll

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give each treasure they're due

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for for maintain that program

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and the knowledge of it.

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But I think there is a process

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ways that we can improve.

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You know, having worked in a

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large financial institution

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and understanding, you know how

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we records and KET track of

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this type of of stuff that.

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Should be easy to do with

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technology. And that's where

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I would focus ensuring that we

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can and bring the treasurer's

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office out to the state.

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I think that's something that

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has been not been done well, is

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that? Doling into these

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communities across Kentuckyian

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ensuring that they know and

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understand what the treasure

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does and the services that the

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treasurer's office with that.

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>> How optimistic are you the

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second time around? You still

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have the same candidate at the

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top of the ticket. Absolute may

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not have as a deep coattails is

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perhaps you'd like. If you

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think that even has power to

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bring you into victory, why do

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you think this time could be

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different?

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>> Well, I think there is a

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difference and the person at

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the top of the ticket this time

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around in terms of he's not

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the challenger. He is the

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incumbent. And not only is he

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the incumbent, he is a

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remarkably popular incumbent.

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And I think there is a desire

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to send him to help in

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Frankfort that he needs to be

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able to to continue for 4 more

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years. while there may not have

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been coattails 4 years ago,

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it's certainly possible that he

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has those now. But I'm not

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relying on that. I'm getting

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out across the state. We're

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doing our job putting that.

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As you said, shoe leather to

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the pavement and getting in

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front of those people and

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letting know why I'm more

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qualified than my opponent.

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And why can leave this office

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and be a good partner with the

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governor for the next 4 years

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to ensure that we're doing the

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right things for Kentucky.

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Well, at the moment, thank you

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so much. It's been pleasure.

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Sitting down speaking with you.

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Thank you. And I appreciate it.

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>> Say whether us on

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connections as we next hear

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from Republican nominee for

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state treasurer Martin Metcalf,

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who's had a careers as a

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prosecutor and holds the rank

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of lieutenant colonel and the

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U.S. Army Reserve.

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♪

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Mark Metcalf, thank you so much

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for being with us today.

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We appreciate some time.

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It's an honor and a privilege.

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Thank you. So you're running

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for one of the constitutional

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offices, state treasurer.

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We'll get to why in a moment.

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But let's talk a little bit

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about you and your background

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and where you come from and

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your lived. Experience that

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can reform.

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>> How you would operate that

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office if you're selected.

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Tell us about yourself.

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>> Overnight, thanks for the

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question. I'm a native of

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Garrett County. He served his

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county attorney for

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22 years. I'm sure. Beach

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Commonwealth's Attorney first

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assistant Commonwealth's

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attorney for 3 years. those in

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the Kentucky Army National

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Guard for 29 years

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the veteran of Iraq and over

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the course of my we focused

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as you would expect in the

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guard, the folks on the soldier

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in the county attorney's

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office, we focus on the private

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individual and it's not just

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about prosecution. It's about

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helping the child support

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as the case may be with the

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addicted, making sure that they

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get into.

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Rehab and hopefully I can

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redeem their lives that way.

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But county attorney's offices

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are full service prosecution

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offices that look at the

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individual as well as your

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circumstances in order to serve

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them better.

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>> Right. And many people may

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not make that assumption when

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they hear about a prosecutorial

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role such as the county

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attorney that they think very

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much of law and order and not

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trying to help people with

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wraparound services as we often

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hear them called. So it's

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interesting to hear you define

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the position of such headed in

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that think rep around is

576
00:16:31,366 --> 00:16:37,466
probably the best as you

577
00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,366
develop herd. It's.

578
00:16:36,233 --> 00:16:43,433
It's the kind of office where

579
00:16:37,466 --> 00:16:44,066
you can do more good in the

580
00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:44,700
morning that many attorneys can

581
00:16:43,433 --> 00:16:45,266
do a When you look at it.

582
00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:48,266
>> That means that people

583
00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:49,933
praying to the county

584
00:16:45,266 --> 00:16:54,200
attorney's office is that have

585
00:16:48,266 --> 00:16:55,200
to do as the Sadr addiction.

586
00:16:49,933 --> 00:17:00,366
Yeah, I'm with being victims.

587
00:16:54,200 --> 00:17:01,433
And also with the child support

588
00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:04,666
issues you're talking about the

589
00:17:00,366 --> 00:17:05,300
kinds of services that to find

590
00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:05,933
point being able to help people

591
00:17:04,666 --> 00:17:08,333
with their lives. And when

592
00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:11,833
you're talking about child

593
00:17:05,933 --> 00:17:12,533
support in particular, you're

594
00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:15,466
talking about the difference

595
00:17:11,833 --> 00:17:16,533
between a family being able to

596
00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:18,300
make ends meet to reverse is

597
00:17:15,466 --> 00:17:20,466
not being able to. Yeah.

598
00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:24,500
>> We were talking before we

599
00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:26,266
started taping helping children

600
00:17:20,466 --> 00:17:27,400
who are vulnerable in order to

601
00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:29,333
have them have food for the

602
00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:30,333
weekend. And you and your wife

603
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,366
are very involved in that and

604
00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:35,300
you and your your military

605
00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:36,433
background. Also informs that

606
00:17:32,366 --> 00:17:37,733
activity as well. Talk about

607
00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:39,433
why that's so important in your

608
00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:42,833
Internet and appreciate your

609
00:17:37,733 --> 00:17:43,466
bringing that up because it's

610
00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:46,966
an important aspect of what

611
00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:49,566
the Kentucky Army National

612
00:17:43,466 --> 00:17:52,466
Guard does.

613
00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:54,233
>> When you think soldiers, you

614
00:17:49,566 --> 00:17:56,733
think of we got the Kentucky

615
00:17:52,466 --> 00:17:58,633
Army National Guard is a medium

616
00:17:54,233 --> 00:17:59,566
size guard in a small state

617
00:17:56,733 --> 00:18:03,966
that time deploys everywhere.

618
00:17:58,633 --> 00:18:05,833
And it's very busy all the

619
00:17:59,566 --> 00:18:09,933
time. But the other side of the

620
00:18:03,966 --> 00:18:11,600
story is that we in every place

621
00:18:05,833 --> 00:18:13,400
where there's a disaster right

622
00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:16,633
in the unit was activated and

623
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:18,700
we came all the several states

624
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:20,200
in Tennessee, Indiana, Ohio,

625
00:18:16,633 --> 00:18:21,066
where our members live and

626
00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:25,200
Kentucky and we're delivering

627
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:26,833
meals to Kentucky ends who did

628
00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:30,333
not have water did not have a

629
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,966
food

630
00:18:26,833 --> 00:18:33,666
all of from the top down.

631
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:36,700
We're handing food out to

632
00:18:30,966 --> 00:18:38,533
people in Western Kentucky, in

633
00:18:33,666 --> 00:18:39,166
particular job, the wind storms

634
00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:41,400
in Mayfield, Graves, County

635
00:18:38,533 --> 00:18:43,466
and the water in Breathitt

636
00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:44,233
County and the E-street a key

637
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,366
counties most impacted by the

638
00:18:43,466 --> 00:18:48,100
flooding. The guard is their

639
00:18:44,233 --> 00:18:49,966
right.

640
00:18:46,366 --> 00:18:53,166
>> And we saw that heroic

641
00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:53,800
footage right of folks being

642
00:18:49,966 --> 00:18:55,966
airlifted from what could have

643
00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:57,066
been their demise in their

644
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:59,033
death. Those flood waters,

645
00:18:55,966 --> 00:19:00,166
right? I mean, been lifted up

646
00:18:57,066 --> 00:19:03,300
and rescued. I mean, it was

647
00:18:59,033 --> 00:19:04,200
remarkable and it got attention

648
00:19:00,166 --> 00:19:05,266
from U.S.. Senate Minority

649
00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,966
Leader Mitch McConnell who

650
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,733
talked about his bravery and

651
00:19:05,266 --> 00:19:09,666
the commitment of the Kentucky

652
00:19:05,966 --> 00:19:10,433
Air National Guard and others

653
00:19:07,733 --> 00:19:14,900
who served to help people in

654
00:19:09,666 --> 00:19:15,366
these intense times of crisis

655
00:19:10,433 --> 00:19:19,133
right here. National Guard can

656
00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:20,300
leave that out.

657
00:19:15,366 --> 00:19:23,933
They're ready. It's a bad

658
00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:24,633
thing. You have to call also

659
00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:25,833
KET in mind that when we talk

660
00:19:23,933 --> 00:19:29,166
about drug it you're it's your

661
00:19:24,633 --> 00:19:31,300
Kentucky Army national and

662
00:19:25,833 --> 00:19:31,966
Kentucky Air National Guard

663
00:19:29,166 --> 00:19:33,400
which drops

664
00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:36,600
federal assets FBI, DEA and

665
00:19:31,966 --> 00:19:37,266
Kentucky State police on the

666
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,800
growth fields that are now

667
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,366
coming up in the Washington

668
00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:45,400
National Forest, the Jefferson

669
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:46,366
National Forest, Smoky Mountain

670
00:19:41,366 --> 00:19:48,100
National Forest in the Daniel

671
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,766
Boone National Forest. So we're

672
00:19:46,366 --> 00:19:50,233
begin to law enforcement in

673
00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:52,066
those areas. And there those

674
00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:55,133
are overlook missions. As I

675
00:19:50,233 --> 00:19:56,066
said, you think of soldiers

676
00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:57,600
we think of the guard and it's

677
00:19:55,133 --> 00:20:00,366
not always that all. Yeah.

678
00:19:56,066 --> 00:20:03,266
>> I know your experience also

679
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:04,900
lends you to have a lot of

680
00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:05,533
interaction and probably even

681
00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:09,000
expertise when it comes to the

682
00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:10,100
drug scourge pride in this

683
00:20:05,533 --> 00:20:11,966
state and this nation. And it

684
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,933
seems like someone over

685
00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:15,966
intractable problem. We make

686
00:20:11,966 --> 00:20:16,533
some progress and then we it

687
00:20:14,933 --> 00:20:19,966
kind of ebbs and What do you

688
00:20:15,966 --> 00:20:20,933
think? And this is not

689
00:20:16,533 --> 00:20:24,866
necessarily something that the

690
00:20:19,966 --> 00:20:25,966
state treasurer takes on, but

691
00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:26,666
do you how do you view this is

692
00:20:24,866 --> 00:20:27,366
one of the big issues and

693
00:20:25,966 --> 00:20:31,300
concerns facing Kentucky ends

694
00:20:26,666 --> 00:20:31,933
well for so again, it's about

695
00:20:27,366 --> 00:20:38,500
people that's important thing

696
00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:40,366
we can do. He's create an

697
00:20:31,933 --> 00:20:41,066
environment where people can.

698
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:46,100
>> And safe and not be a

699
00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:48,066
dependent on the on the assets

700
00:20:41,066 --> 00:20:49,666
of government. But if so, the

701
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:50,366
government is there to act

702
00:20:48,066 --> 00:20:53,300
decisively to Kentucky to help

703
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:57,266
Americans. The most important

704
00:20:50,366 --> 00:20:58,633
thing that I can tell you that

705
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:59,333
the treasurer's office is that

706
00:20:57,266 --> 00:21:01,200
it has a large role and making

707
00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:01,900
certain that our children have

708
00:20:59,333 --> 00:21:05,833
fiscal knowledge so they can

709
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,866
begin their lives, being able

710
00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:07,600
to open up a checking account,

711
00:21:05,833 --> 00:21:08,466
being able to balance the

712
00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:12,300
checking account, understanding

713
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,866
that to start a business.

714
00:21:08,466 --> 00:21:17,600
It's more than just putting a

715
00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:18,300
shingle on the door. Let's talk

716
00:21:13,866 --> 00:21:20,366
the retirement funds of

717
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:24,533
Kentucky he heard me say that

718
00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:27,033
I'm pushing back against the

719
00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:30,866
esg movement which stands for

720
00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:31,566
environments, Social and

721
00:21:27,033 --> 00:21:34,733
governmental. It is an effort

722
00:21:30,866 --> 00:21:35,800
as as I the left to basically

723
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:37,300
commandeered the assets

724
00:21:34,733 --> 00:21:38,033
contained in our retirement

725
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:41,233
funds and direct them towards

726
00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:45,233
green technologies. Summly.

727
00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:45,966
And we know that in Kentucky

728
00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:46,600
we have tremendous Cole and

729
00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:49,466
we have 8500 years over on mine

730
00:21:45,966 --> 00:21:50,833
coal in the United States.

731
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,500
A lot of which is located in

732
00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:52,700
eastern Kentucky. We have

733
00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:55,933
miners ready to go to work.

734
00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:57,533
Cole is 30 times cleaner than

735
00:21:52,700 --> 00:22:00,966
it was 10 years ago because it

736
00:21:55,933 --> 00:22:03,466
can be mind cleanly and

737
00:21:57,533 --> 00:22:05,366
effectively and efficiently.

738
00:22:00,966 --> 00:22:08,366
They can also be burned also

739
00:22:03,466 --> 00:22:08,966
awaited has I much less impact

740
00:22:05,366 --> 00:22:09,600
on the environment. So what we

741
00:22:08,366 --> 00:22:14,533
need to be doing is he's

742
00:22:08,966 --> 00:22:15,266
leveraging those assets to

743
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:17,433
create wealth in Kentucky.

744
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:20,433
So that. Our people are there

745
00:22:15,266 --> 00:22:22,700
are dependent only on the hand

746
00:22:17,433 --> 00:22:26,000
at the end of their own sleeve

747
00:22:20,433 --> 00:22:31,033
and not upon government.

748
00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:31,766
My my role as treasure. His

749
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,866
advance.

750
00:22:31,033 --> 00:22:34,300
That and make certain that that

751
00:22:31,766 --> 00:22:36,400
older people, especially those

752
00:22:32,866 --> 00:22:38,900
in need. But also the taxpayers

753
00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:43,300
and take care of those in need

754
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:45,000
are dignified by government.

755
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:46,466
And then we have and that they

756
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:50,200
have in in in my candidacy,

757
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,900
a man who will go out and

758
00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:53,100
advocate on behalf of taxpayers

759
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,933
to cut the budget where where

760
00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:58,033
we find waste and to do the

761
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:59,466
things that I think of as being

762
00:22:53,933 --> 00:23:01,933
sort of common sense to call

763
00:22:58,033 --> 00:23:04,266
that when you look at it

764
00:22:59,466 --> 00:23:06,333
we have a 16 billion dollar

765
00:23:01,933 --> 00:23:10,333
direct debt of Kentucky east of

766
00:23:04,266 --> 00:23:11,533
Kentucky's taxpayers. That's a

767
00:23:06,333 --> 00:23:12,200
$20,000 debt on every taxpayer

768
00:23:10,333 --> 00:23:14,666
in Kentucky. So how do we lower

769
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:15,466
that? We have 27,000 people

770
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,166
that still haven't come off the

771
00:23:14,666 --> 00:23:19,366
welfare rolls. When you get

772
00:23:15,466 --> 00:23:21,566
them off the welfare rolls and

773
00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:22,233
they you put them into

774
00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:24,000
productive employment.

775
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:26,766
More people to pay down the

776
00:23:22,233 --> 00:23:28,800
debts of Kentucky. But it also

777
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,333
means more taxpayers. It means

778
00:23:26,766 --> 00:23:30,966
more people who can live on

779
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,966
their own and not depend upon

780
00:23:30,333 --> 00:23:35,300
others. And so what I'm

781
00:23:30,966 --> 00:23:35,933
interested in doing is taking

782
00:23:33,966 --> 00:23:39,266
that message forward.

783
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:41,000
>> When you talk about the

784
00:23:35,933 --> 00:23:41,700
state budget and the deaths

785
00:23:39,266 --> 00:23:45,700
of Kentucky, do you believe

786
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:47,300
there's more than just public

787
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:49,500
assistance programs that need

788
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:50,233
revision and reform? Do you see

789
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:52,200
and have evidence of widespread

790
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,766
waste, fraud or abuse and other

791
00:23:50,233 --> 00:23:53,366
the state government agencies

792
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,700
and departments.

793
00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:58,366
>> Let's see. This is a

794
00:23:53,366 --> 00:24:00,433
top-down effort working with

795
00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:03,966
the auditor working with the

796
00:23:58,366 --> 00:24:04,700
assets, the great people in

797
00:24:00,433 --> 00:24:05,333
the auditor's office and in the

798
00:24:03,966 --> 00:24:08,000
treasurer's office and in every

799
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:08,500
major Department of State

800
00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:11,366
government finding waste in

801
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,766
getting rid of it.

802
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:13,300
Starting with the smallest

803
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:15,133
programs up to the largest one

804
00:24:12,766 --> 00:24:19,633
of the things we can

805
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:20,833
immediately is to say if you're

806
00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:22,866
going to be on welfare, we're

807
00:24:19,633 --> 00:24:23,533
going to require that you

808
00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:26,566
engage in public interest work,

809
00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:27,200
you know, help cleaning up a

810
00:24:23,533 --> 00:24:30,666
park help city helping out of

811
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:31,933
the daycare. These are the

812
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,600
kinds of things that people

813
00:24:30,666 --> 00:24:34,000
can do besides just looking for

814
00:24:31,933 --> 00:24:35,500
If you're going to take from

815
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200
the public, you should be

816
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,700
willing to give back to the

817
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:42,666
public. And I think that that

818
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:44,500
we don't need to lose sight

819
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:45,233
of that. The the whole idea

820
00:24:42,666 --> 00:24:49,000
of welfare as we know it today,

821
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:49,733
his to make certain that people

822
00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:50,333
have that safety net so they

823
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,366
don't go without but also dance

824
00:24:49,733 --> 00:24:54,466
from them while they're

825
00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:56,333
receiving those funds to do

826
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:57,500
something to give back to their

827
00:24:54,466 --> 00:24:58,166
>> I want to go back to why

828
00:24:56,333 --> 00:25:01,366
you're running for this office

829
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:02,066
is what was the reason? Was

830
00:24:58,166 --> 00:25:02,766
there a particular moment in

831
00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:05,666
time? Will it ignited the

832
00:25:02,066 --> 00:25:05,966
clarification that this is the

833
00:25:02,766 --> 00:25:12,533
past. But I should next.

834
00:25:05,666 --> 00:25:13,266
Take.

835
00:25:05,966 --> 00:25:16,000
>> This tough decision. I love

836
00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:19,033
my job. But I thought that with

837
00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:21,533
what I saw in the U.S. she

838
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,200
movement coming out against

839
00:25:19,033 --> 00:25:22,900
call. One of the things that

840
00:25:21,533 --> 00:25:25,233
the the the left is out for

841
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,933
season is doing is saying that

842
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:27,833
there is that we should not

843
00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:28,666
have fossil fuels at all this

844
00:25:25,933 --> 00:25:31,533
fossil fuels that have created

845
00:25:27,833 --> 00:25:34,266
the cheapest energy on the

846
00:25:28,666 --> 00:25:37,766
planet to be able to power

847
00:25:31,533 --> 00:25:38,433
businesses and homes and to

848
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:40,133
look at the fact that I'm in

849
00:25:37,766 --> 00:25:43,433
Western Kentucky. Just this

850
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:44,000
year we have rolling blackouts

851
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:45,700
from TVA and in eastern

852
00:25:43,433 --> 00:25:47,633
Kentucky where money.

853
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,300
More call that we can use in

854
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:51,733
Kentucky. Where is that cold

855
00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:52,433
going well in in in some of

856
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:55,166
the colon in Harlan County is

857
00:25:51,733 --> 00:25:57,100
going to places. One is going

858
00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:57,766
to it's found Rico and the

859
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:59,800
Chinese are buying. But the

860
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North Carolinians are buying

861
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it, too, because the Green

862
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Technologies field in both

863
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:07,233
Western Kentuckyian in eastern

864
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,933
Kentucky skews me and in North

865
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Carolina. And so now that North

866
00:26:07,233 --> 00:26:12,066
Carolina is buying Kentucky,

867
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call to power those plants that

868
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they wound down when they tried

869
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to replace coal and natural

870
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:19,266
natural gas with. Green

871
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:23,233
technologies. He just doesn't

872
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work yet and may not for a long

873
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time to come. We need to KET

874
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in mind that the esg movement,

875
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which is hostile to fossil

876
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fuels. Has a component and that

877
00:26:28,833 --> 00:26:34,833
component is found in China.

878
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:36,766
The manufacturers, many of the

879
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solar panels and their manner

880
00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:41,466
of manufacturing releases more

881
00:26:36,766 --> 00:26:42,566
carbon into the atmosphere.

882
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The mining coal burning coal

883
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>> Many people would say that

884
00:26:42,566 --> 00:26:47,466
sounds like a stretch for the

885
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office of the state treasurer

886
00:26:45,333 --> 00:26:48,933
to be involved in. It seems

887
00:26:47,466 --> 00:26:50,300
like that would be underneath a

888
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:52,366
different environment or a

889
00:26:48,933 --> 00:26:53,100
different cabinet level

890
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:55,966
position. Energy environment

891
00:26:52,366 --> 00:26:58,766
or something else. Can you make

892
00:26:53,100 --> 00:27:00,833
that makes sense to the viewer

893
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at home? Sure.

894
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>> The state treasurer of

895
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Kentucky is mandated to report

896
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to the General Assembly about

897
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those businesses that are

898
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discriminating against fossil

899
00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:17,166
fuels. If I'm going to be

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00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,266
active in advocating what some

901
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of the things that Kentucky

902
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:23,033
does best, which is produce

903
00:27:18,266 --> 00:27:25,100
energy, then I'll be asking

904
00:27:18,933 --> 00:27:26,000
Kentucky's to take a second

905
00:27:23,033 --> 00:27:27,800
look at these esg movement that

906
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:29,600
diminish the importance of

907
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,400
fossil fuels. Not just to not

908
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:35,166
just empowering Kentucky but

909
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:36,066
impairing the United States.

910
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:37,733
And the other thing to KET in

911
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mind is because many of the

912
00:27:36,066 --> 00:27:41,166
utilities in Kentucky are

913
00:27:37,733 --> 00:27:43,166
trying to make that transition

914
00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:44,966
solely to green technologies.

915
00:27:41,166 --> 00:27:45,666
The biggest impact has been

916
00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:49,000
felt in eastern Kentucky where

917
00:27:44,966 --> 00:27:50,133
the cost of huge electric

918
00:27:45,666 --> 00:27:51,233
utilities has gone up 18% this

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year.

920
00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:53,600
>> Well, thank you, Mister Mark

921
00:27:51,233 --> 00:27:55,533
Metcalf. It's been a pleasure

922
00:27:52,866 --> 00:27:56,566
to sit with you on that side of

923
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,600
the studio. We appreciate your

924
00:27:55,533 --> 00:28:00,900
time. Thank you. Thank you.

925
00:27:56,566 --> 00:28:01,500
Renee, thank you for joining

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us today. KET, Kentucky.

927
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Tonight. We'll have the

928
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candidates and the statewide

929
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:07,566
constitutional contests debate.

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The issues.

931
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>> And the races for the

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offices they seek. Make sure

933
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you tune NH Monday night in

934
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October at 8 Eastern 7 central

935
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for that and join me next week

936
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on connections. As we talk to

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the candidates running for

938
00:28:19,933 --> 00:28:23,733
state auditor, you can always

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connect with me all the ways

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you see on your screen and in

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the main time you take good

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care and I'll see you soon.

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