WEBVTT 00:12.466 --> 00:14.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> Renee: THERE IS A GROWING 00:13.033 --> 00:15.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% WAVE OF AGREEMENT THAT THE 00:14.366 --> 00:16.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% GROWING NUMBER OF WOMEN BEHIND 00:15.566 --> 00:17.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BARS NEEDS DESPERATE ATTENTION. 00:16.300 --> 00:18.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% WHILE THE DRAMA WEB SERIES 00:17.166 --> 00:19.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK" HAS 00:18.433 --> 00:24.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ENRAPTURED VIEWERS, THE PROBLEMS 00:19.600 --> 00:25.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% OF FEMALE PRISONERS AND THE 00:24.433 --> 00:25.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% REASONS THEY'RE LOCKED UP IN THE 00:25.200 --> 00:27.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% FIRST PLACE SOME BELIEVE SHOULD 00:25.933 --> 00:27.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% TAKE A MORE PROMINENT PLACE IN 00:27.166 --> 00:28.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% DEBATES ABOUT MASSIVE 00:27.733 --> 00:31.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% INCARCERATION AND CRIMINAL 00:28.733 --> 00:33.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% JUSTICE REFORM. 00:31.733 --> 00:34.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% KENTUCKIAN HOLLY HARRIS WITH THE 00:33.233 --> 00:36.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% JUSTICE ACTION NETWORK IS TRYING 00:34.633 --> 00:39.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% TO ELEVATE THAT CONVERSATION AND 00:36.066 --> 00:49.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SHE TELLS US ALL ABOUT IT NOW ON 00:39.133 --> 00:49.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:35% "CONNECTIONS." 00:51.066 --> 00:54.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR " 00:53.033 --> 00:55.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% CONNECTIONS" TODAY. 00:54.033 --> 00:56.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% I'M RENEE SHAW. 00:55.533 --> 00:58.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IN 1970 FEWER THAN 8,000 WOMEN 00:56.933 --> 01:01.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% WERE IN JAIL. 00:58.833 --> 01:01.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% TODAY, OVER 100,000 ARE BEHIND 01:01.300 --> 01:03.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% BARS. 01:01.800 --> 01:05.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% MANY OF THOSE WOMEN HAVE A 01:03.600 --> 01:06.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS AND MOST 01:05.100 --> 01:08.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HAVE A HISTORY OF DRUG OR 01:06.800 --> 01:09.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% ALCOHOL ABUSE. 01:08.366 --> 01:12.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IS THE 01:09.566 --> 01:12.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% PASSION OF TODAY'S GUEST WHO IS 01:12.000 --> 01:14.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE 01:12.900 --> 01:16.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% U.S. JUSTICE ACTION NETWORK THAT 01:14.466 --> 01:17.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% IS THE FIRST ORGANIZATION OF ITS 01:16.366 --> 01:19.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% KIND TO BRING TOGETHER PROGRESS 01:17.900 --> 01:20.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% IVE AND CONSERVATIVE 01:19.066 --> 01:22.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% POLICY MAKERS AND PARTNERS TO 01:20.966 --> 01:22.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% REFORM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 01:22.566 --> 01:24.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% SYSTEM. 01:22.900 --> 01:25.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WE WANT TO SAY WELCOME HOME, 01:24.466 --> 01:26.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% HOLLY HARRIS. 01:25.200 --> 01:29.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% >> INGS THAT. 01:26.866 --> 01:30.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN. 01:29.666 --> 01:31.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% >> Renee: YOU SHOULD BE A 01:30.466 --> 01:33.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% FAMILIAR FACE TO MANY WHO YOU 01:31.666 --> 01:35.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SAID IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO ALMOST 01:33.500 --> 01:37.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WHEN YOU USED TO BE ON THE TV 01:35.266 --> 01:40.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AIR WAVES IN LEXINGTON ON THE 01:37.666 --> 01:42.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CBS AFFILIATE THEN YOU WENT ON 01:40.233 --> 01:44.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% AND I USED TO SEE YOU IN THE 01:42.166 --> 01:45.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CAPITOL HALLS, GENERAL COUNSEL 01:44.066 --> 01:47.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% FOR THE SENATE PRESIDENT. 01:45.133 --> 01:49.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% YOU HAVE DONE LOTS OF 01:47.633 --> 01:51.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% INTERESTING THINGS IN YOUR LIFE. 01:49.233 --> 01:54.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> WHEN I'M UP IN D.C., I GET 01:51.433 --> 01:55.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ASKED ALL THE TIME, IS IT A 01:54.533 --> 02:01.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DIFFERENT TRANSITION FOR YOU TO 01:55.633 --> 02:01.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BE IN THIS ACIDIC POLITICAL 02:01.300 --> 02:04.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% ENVIRONMENT. 02:01.800 --> 02:05.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% I SAY I'M FROM KENTUCKY. 02:04.300 --> 02:07.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% I WAS WELL PREPARED. 02:05.800 --> 02:10.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% I FEEL LIKE YOU AND BILL AND 02:07.900 --> 02:13.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% EVERYBODY HERE AT KET, I MEAN 02:10.100 --> 02:14.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% EVERYBODY HERE ALL PROS AND SO, 02:13.000 --> 02:15.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% D.C. WAS NOTHING FOR ME. 02:14.300 --> 02:17.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Renee: WE PREPARED YOU WELL. 02:15.800 --> 02:18.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% WE'LL TAKE SOME CREDIT. 02:17.200 --> 02:19.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% I DID IT ALL ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT 02:18.866 --> 02:20.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% ANY HELP FROM US. 02:19.700 --> 02:21.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% TELL US HOW YOU REALLY GOT 02:20.966 --> 02:23.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% INVOLVED WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE 02:21.900 --> 02:24.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% REFORM AND THE JUSTICE ACTION 02:23.700 --> 02:26.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% NETWORK WHAT DREW TO YOU THIS 02:24.800 --> 02:28.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% LINE OF WORK AND TELL US ABOUT 02:26.500 --> 02:28.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THE ORGANIZATION IN AND OF 02:28.166 --> 02:31.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% ITSELF? 02:28.566 --> 02:33.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> I STARTED MY LEGAL CAREER AS 02:31.366 --> 02:35.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% A LAWYER FOR THE JUSTICE CABINET 02:33.066 --> 02:36.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% I ACTUALLY WROTE THE BRIEF 02:35.066 --> 02:37.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% DEFENDING THE LETHAL INJECTION 02:36.866 --> 02:38.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% PROTOCOL. 02:37.233 --> 02:39.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG, THE WORLD IS 02:38.966 --> 02:41.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% VERY BLACK AND WHITE AND THERE 02:39.666 --> 02:43.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% IS RIGHT AND WRONG AND AS YOU 02:41.466 --> 02:45.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% GET OLDER AND MAKE SOME MISTAKES 02:43.466 --> 02:47.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% YOURSELF WHICH I'VE MADE A FEW, 02:45.500 --> 02:49.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% YOU BECOME FAR MORE TOLERANT AND 02:47.033 --> 02:51.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% , YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY A 02:49.766 --> 02:53.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% PROPONENT OF SECOND CHANCES. 02:51.066 --> 02:57.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% I'VE CERTAINLY BENEFITED FROM 02:53.333 --> 02:58.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SECOND CHANCES AND SO, YOU KNOW, 02:57.033 --> 03:02.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% I'VE GROWN IN THAT REGARD, BUT 02:58.866 --> 03:03.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% YOU KNOW, I CAME OUT, AS YOU 03:02.000 --> 03:05.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% KNOW, OF A VERY DIFFICULT 03:03.900 --> 03:07.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% GOVERNOR'S RACE AND WAS REALLY 03:05.400 --> 03:09.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% LOOKING FOR A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE 03:07.400 --> 03:10.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% AND I REALLY WANTED TO DO 03:09.000 --> 03:13.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% SOMETHING WHERE I COULD FEEL 03:10.100 --> 03:15.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% LIKE I WAS IMPACTING PEOPLE IN A 03:13.833 --> 03:16.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% POSSIBLE-- POSITIVE WAY. 03:15.800 --> 03:18.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM WAS RIS 03:16.933 --> 03:20.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ING UP AS THE NEXT BIG ISSUE 03:18.500 --> 03:21.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WHERE WE COULD FIND SOLUTIONS IN 03:20.100 --> 03:23.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THIS COUNTRY AND WE'VE HAD A 03:21.600 --> 03:24.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% GREAT RUN AT THE JUSTICE ACTION 03:23.400 --> 03:27.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% NETWORK THE LAST TWO YEARS. 03:24.600 --> 03:27.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% I FEEL REALLY LUCKY TO WORK IN 03:27.000 --> 03:29.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25% THIS BASE. 03:27.900 --> 03:30.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> YOU ARE WORKING WITH PROGRESS 03:29.400 --> 03:30.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% IVE AND CONSERVATIVE 03:30.466 --> 03:33.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% VOICES. 03:30.800 --> 03:35.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT. 03:33.500 --> 03:37.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% NEWT NEWT, RAND PAUL HAS COME 03:35.000 --> 03:46.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% OUT ON SOME THINGS LIKE THE 03:37.400 --> 03:51.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES. 03:46.100 --> 03:52.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% YOU HAVE PEOPLE HO HAVE FOUND 03:51.166 --> 03:54.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% POLITICAL COMMON GROUND. 03:52.166 --> 03:55.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% EVERYTHING GETS TAINTED BY 03:54.166 --> 03:57.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% POLITICS, DO YOU THINK THIS 03:55.966 --> 03:59.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% POLITICAL ISSUE IS FREER OF SOME 03:57.500 --> 04:01.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% OF THE OTHER POLITICAL 03:59.566 --> 04:02.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% IMPERATIVES WHERE POLITICIANS 04:01.533 --> 04:05.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% MIGHT FALL OUT. 04:02.433 --> 04:07.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE LAST 04:05.100 --> 04:09.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SACRED SPACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE 04:07.133 --> 04:10.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% STILL REACH AGO CROSS THE AISLE. 04:09.200 --> 04:12.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WE HAD AN EVENT IN WASHINGTON 04:10.900 --> 04:13.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% D.C. CALLED WOMEN UNSHACKLED 04:12.500 --> 04:17.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 04:13.533 --> 04:20.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ISSUES YOU WERE DISCUSSES. 04:17.400 --> 04:21.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AS YOU MENTIONED, COREY BOOKER 04:20.000 --> 04:23.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% WHO TOOK THE STAGE. 04:21.800 --> 04:25.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% CONGRESSMAN DOUG COLLINS FROM 04:23.500 --> 04:29.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% GEORGIA STAUNCH CONSERVATIVE, 04:25.033 --> 04:31.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% YOU KNOW, PROGRESSIVE FORMER 04:29.933 --> 04:33.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ATTORNEY GENERAL FROM CALIFORNIA 04:31.300 --> 04:34.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% , SO AND WE DID THIS 04:33.100 --> 04:36.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% BY DESIGN, YOU KNOW. 04:34.300 --> 04:37.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE WENT RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT 04:36.300 --> 04:39.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% , RIGHT BECAUSE CRIMINAL 04:37.600 --> 04:41.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% JUSTICE REFORM IS AN ISSUE THAT 04:39.300 --> 04:42.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% IS, IT'S NOT A PROGRESSIVE OR 04:41.500 --> 04:43.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% CONSERVATIVE ISSUE. 04:42.100 --> 04:44.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% IT'S AN AMERICAN ISSUE. 04:43.200 --> 04:45.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% WE FIND OURSELVES IN THIS 04:44.500 --> 04:47.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% COUNTRY, WE ARE NOW IN A PLACE 04:45.600 --> 04:48.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% WHERE ONE IN THREE AMERICAN 04:47.000 --> 04:49.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ADULTS HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD. 04:48.700 --> 04:51.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% ONE IN THREE. 04:49.433 --> 04:53.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% I SAY GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, 04:51.466 --> 04:59.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% LOOK TOE YOUR LEFT, TO YOUR 04:53.566 --> 05:03.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% RIGHT, ODDS ARE ONE OF THEM HAVE 04:59.066 --> 05:10.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HAD A BRUSH WITH THE LAW. 05:03.033 --> 05:11.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% I GO TO PROM PROMINENT 05:10.233 --> 05:13.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% PREDOMINANTLY BLACK CHURCH AND 05:11.633 --> 05:16.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% PEOPLE COME UP TO ME, MOST OF 05:13.333 --> 05:17.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEM FELON, BECAUSE THEY GET KET 05:16.033 --> 05:17.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND THEY'RE REALLY TRYING 2K0 05:17.033 --> 05:19.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% THE RIGHT THING. 05:17.733 --> 05:21.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SO WHEN YOU INTERACT WITH FELONS 05:19.800 --> 05:23.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHICH YOU KNOW HAS BEEN A CURSE 05:21.733 --> 05:25.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% WORD, YOU REALLY SEE THE 05:23.733 --> 05:26.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% HUMANITY OF THIS PERSON 05:25.500 --> 05:28.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% REGARDLESS OF PERHAPS WHAT THEY 05:26.733 --> 05:30.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% DID WAS WRONG AND I'M NOT 05:28.533 --> 05:31.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% EXCUSING THAT BUT YOU SEE THE 05:30.133 --> 05:34.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HUMANITY OF WHO THEY ARE. 05:31.900 --> 05:36.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> AND I BRING SOME GOOD NEWS. 05:34.600 --> 05:38.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% I'VE BEEN ON SEVERAL CALLS 05:36.900 --> 05:39.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HELPED TO 05:38.400 --> 05:42.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% FUND A LOT OF THE GROUPS OUT 05:39.500 --> 05:43.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THERE THAT ARE WORKING IN THIS 05:42.100 --> 05:45.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SPACE BOTH ON THE RIGHT AND ON 05:43.266 --> 05:45.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THE LEFT AND IT'S REALLY 05:45.200 --> 05:47.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% INTERESTING. 05:45.600 --> 05:48.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% EVERYBODY IS WANTING TO WORK IN 05:47.600 --> 05:49.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% KENTUCKY RIGHT NOW. 05:48.500 --> 05:51.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Renee: KENTUCKY IS DOING IT 05:49.800 --> 05:53.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BIG WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE? 05:51.300 --> 05:54.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% >> WE REALLY HAVE DONE A 05:53.400 --> 05:57.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% PHENOMENAL JOB HERE. 05:54.400 --> 05:58.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% LOUISIANA JUST PASSED A TON OF 05:57.800 --> 06:00.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% REFORMS. 05:58.133 --> 06:02.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% GEORGIA IS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE 06:00.166 --> 06:03.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THIS SPACE BUT IT'S GREAT TO SEE 06:02.033 --> 06:05.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% KENTUCKY AS EMERGING AS ONE OF 06:03.366 --> 06:06.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE STATES THAT REALLY FORWARD 06:05.066 --> 06:07.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THINKING WITH RESPECT TO 06:06.366 --> 06:08.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM POLICIES 06:07.733 --> 06:09.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% SO I'M PROUD OF THAT. 06:08.933 --> 06:11.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Renee: I GUESS MANY PEOPLE 06:09.933 --> 06:12.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WOULD WONDER WHEN DID THE SHIFT 06:11.733 --> 06:13.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% COME? 06:12.033 --> 06:14.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HEAR ABOUT 06:13.533 --> 06:17.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% VERY MUCH LAW AND ORDER STATES. 06:14.966 --> 06:19.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE THINK OF TEXAS, SOME STOP AND 06:17.733 --> 06:20.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FRISK POLICIES THAT NEW YORK HAD 06:19.933 --> 06:22.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% IMPLEMENTED. 06:20.333 --> 06:23.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SO WE THINK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE 06:22.333 --> 06:25.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% POLICIES THAT HAPPENED IN THESE 06:23.633 --> 06:27.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OTHER STATES BUT YET THERE SEEMS 06:25.133 --> 06:28.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% TO BE STATES LIKE KENTUCKY, 06:27.033 --> 06:29.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% LOUISIANA, ALL THESE OTHER 06:28.133 --> 06:31.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% STATES THAT ARE TAKING A TURN 06:29.500 --> 06:33.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FROM LAW AND ORDER OR IS THERE A 06:31.533 --> 06:34.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BALANCE BECAUSE THERE IS SOME 06:33.533 --> 06:36.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% FEAR AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME 06:34.933 --> 06:39.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF OUR OWN KENTUCKY SENATORS, WE 06:36.800 --> 06:40.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% DON'T WANT TO GIVE TOO MANY 06:39.600 --> 06:42.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% SYMPATHY TO THOSE WHO COMMIT 06:40.833 --> 06:44.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% CRIMES THAT SOMEHOW WE ARE 06:42.100 --> 06:47.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% VICTIMIZING THE CRIMINALS. 06:44.500 --> 06:48.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SO WHERE IS THE TURN IN THINKING 06:47.400 --> 06:49.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ABOUT WHY CRIMINAL JUSTICE 06:48.700 --> 06:50.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% REFORM MAKES SENSE? 06:49.533 --> 06:53.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> I THINK IT'S TWO ISSUES. 06:50.700 --> 06:55.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THE FIRST IS THAT THESE REFORMS 06:53.600 --> 06:58.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ACTUALLY PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY. 06:55.633 --> 06:59.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% IF YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF LAW AND 06:58.400 --> 07:00.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% ORDER, CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM 06:59.300 --> 07:02.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE. 07:00.566 --> 07:04.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THESE REFORMS HAVE PROVEN... 07:02.866 --> 07:05.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Renee: IT'S NOT ANTITHETICAL 07:04.000 --> 07:06.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% TO LAW AND ORDER. 07:05.800 --> 07:08.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% >> OF COURSE NOT. 07:06.666 --> 07:11.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% TO ME WHAT LAW AND ORDER SHOULD 07:08.733 --> 07:12.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% MEAN IS LOWERING CRIME RATES, 07:11.333 --> 07:15.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% LOWERING RECIDIVIST VISM RATES 07:12.633 --> 07:15.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE PROMOT 07:15.033 --> 07:17.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% ING PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR 07:15.933 --> 07:19.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% COMMUNITIES WHICH IS WHAT THESE 07:17.133 --> 07:20.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% REFORMS HAVE PROVEN DO. 07:19.566 --> 07:22.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SO YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN 07:20.833 --> 07:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DOING IN THE PAST IS WE'VE JUST 07:22.733 --> 07:27.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BEEN THROWING A LOT OF LOW LEVEL 07:25.366 --> 07:29.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS, MANY OF 07:27.033 --> 07:30.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHOM WHO HAVE ADDICTION ISSUES, 07:29.633 --> 07:32.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, MANY 07:30.933 --> 07:34.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% INDIVIDUALS HAVE SUFFERED SEVERE 07:32.433 --> 07:35.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% TRAUMA AND HAVE BEEN SELF 07:34.366 --> 07:36.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% MEDICATING AND THAT LITTLE HOW 07:35.366 --> 07:38.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEY GET INVOLVED WITH ADDICTION 07:36.733 --> 07:39.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHICH LEADS THEM TO THE JUSTICE 07:38.033 --> 07:41.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SYSTEM AND WE THROW THEM BEHIND 07:39.233 --> 07:41.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% BARS WITH SOME BAD PEOPLE, YOU 07:41.033 --> 07:42.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% KNOW. 07:41.433 --> 07:44.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% I MEAN I SHOULD MENTION THAT, 07:42.933 --> 07:46.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE IN THIS 07:44.333 --> 07:47.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WORLD WHO DESERVE TO BE BEHIND 07:46.133 --> 07:49.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BARS AND SEGREGATED FROM SOCIETY 07:47.833 --> 07:51.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BUT WHEN YOU PUT THESE GROUPS 07:49.300 --> 07:53.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% TOGETHER, AND THEN WE ARE NOT 07:51.133 --> 07:54.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% PROVIDING JOB TRAINING, WE ARE 07:53.000 --> 07:55.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% NOT GIVING THESE INDIVIDUALS 07:54.533 --> 07:56.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% COUNSELING OR TREATMENT, WE ARE 07:55.400 --> 07:57.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% NOT ADDRESSING THE CORE ISSUES 07:56.566 --> 07:59.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THAT LED THEM TO THE JUSTICE 07:57.700 --> 07:59.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% SYSTEM TO BEGIN WITH SO WHAT 07:59.633 --> 08:00.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% HAPPENS? 07:59.966 --> 08:02.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% THEY GET OUT. 08:00.766 --> 08:04.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEY CAN'T FIND JOBS, THEY CAN'T 08:02.566 --> 08:05.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% FIND ADEQUATE HOUSING, THEY 08:04.166 --> 08:06.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CAN'T IMPROVE THEIR EDUCATION. 08:05.266 --> 08:08.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? 08:06.566 --> 08:08.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% RETURN TO CRIME, RETURN TO 08:08.366 --> 08:09.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% PRISON. 08:08.700 --> 08:11.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% WE ARE IN SAFER. 08:09.700 --> 08:13.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE ARE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER 08:11.566 --> 08:13.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BAD AND THAT'S THE CYCLE OF 08:13.466 --> 08:15.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% FAILURE. 08:13.800 --> 08:16.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> SO WOULD IT BE THAT THE 08:15.266 --> 08:18.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% MONETARY IMPERATIVE TOOK 08:16.866 --> 08:19.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% PRECEDENCE THAT SPENDING, IT 08:18.066 --> 08:21.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% USED TO BE IN KENTUCKY THE 08:19.766 --> 08:24.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% FIGURE WAS $22,000 AN INMATE. 08:21.966 --> 08:26.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HIGHER. 08:24.566 --> 08:26.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% >> THAT'S CONSERVATIVE. 08:26.166 --> 08:27.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> Renee: PROBABLY MUCH MORE 08:26.933 --> 08:28.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% THAN THAT NOW. 08:27.400 --> 08:30.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGETARY 08:28.666 --> 08:31.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% LINE OF WHAT THE CORRECTIONS 08:30.533 --> 08:33.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BUDGET, HOW MUCH IT CONSUMES IN 08:31.933 --> 08:34.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THE STATE BUDGET HERE OR 08:33.266 --> 08:37.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ANYWHERE ELSE, WAS THAT THE KIND 08:34.633 --> 08:38.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF GIETDING POSTIN' GUIDING POST 08:37.033 --> 08:40.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% BECAUSE WE HAVE DO SOMETHING 08:38.433 --> 08:41.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BECAUSE IT'S TAKING TOO MUCH OF 08:40.133 --> 08:42.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% OUR DOLLARS FROM EDUCATION AND 08:41.633 --> 08:44.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% OTHER SYSTEMS THAT WOULD KEEP 08:42.833 --> 08:45.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THEM FROM BEING INTO THE 08:44.433 --> 08:47.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 08:45.733 --> 08:49.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> THE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT, THE 08:47.933 --> 08:52.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BOTTOM LINE, I MEAN WE FIND 08:49.333 --> 08:54.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% OURSELVES REALLY, I MEAN IN 08:52.833 --> 08:54.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% KENTUCKY, THE TERRIBLE PENSION 08:54.133 --> 08:56.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% CRISIS. 08:54.466 --> 08:58.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE ARE LOOKING TO DO TAX REFORM, 08:56.533 --> 09:01.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, 08:58.533 --> 09:03.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SHORE UP SOME MORE REVENUE AND 09:01.200 --> 09:05.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PAY DOWN THIS 09:03.800 --> 09:06.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% TERRIBLE DEBT AND ONE OF THE WAY 09:05.566 --> 09:09.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% S WE CERTAINLY COULD BE DOING 09:06.866 --> 09:10.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THAT IS BY SAFELY REDUCING THE 09:09.066 --> 09:13.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% JAIL AND PRISON POPULATION. 09:10.966 --> 09:14.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% AND HERE IS A STATISTIC. 09:13.300 --> 09:15.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THIS ALWAYS SHOCKS PEOPLE WHEN I 09:14.566 --> 09:17.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% MENTION THIS. 09:15.666 --> 09:21.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BUT RIGHT NOW IN KENTUCKY, WE 09:17.566 --> 09:22.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% HAVE ROUGHLY 37,000 INDIVIDUALS, 09:21.100 --> 09:25.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS 09:22.766 --> 09:27.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WHO ARE ACCUSED OF LOW LEVEL 09:25.966 --> 09:29.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% NON-VIOLENT CRIMES WHO SIT 09:27.066 --> 09:31.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BEHIND BARS FOR AN AVERAGE OF 09:29.633 --> 09:34.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% 107 DAYS AT A COST TO THE 09:31.366 --> 09:36.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% TAXPAYERS OF $30 A DAY SO 09:34.266 --> 09:37.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ROUGHLY $127 MILLION A YEAR AND 09:36.200 --> 09:38.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE BEHIND 09:37.366 --> 09:40.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BARS, THEY'VE NOT BEEN CONVICTED 09:38.900 --> 09:41.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE ONLY REASON THEY'RE BEHIND 09:40.266 --> 09:43.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BARS IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE 09:41.533 --> 09:45.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% THEIR BAIL. 09:43.033 --> 09:48.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% MEANWHILE, LAST YEAR IN KENTUCKY 09:45.433 --> 09:50.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% , JUST OVER 800 VIOLENT 09:48.433 --> 09:52.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ON TBENDERS, INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED 09:50.733 --> 09:54.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF VIOLENT CRIMES DID MAKE BAIL. 09:52.433 --> 09:55.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THEY'RE OUT AND THE LOW LEVEL 09:54.133 --> 09:56.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS ARE 09:55.733 --> 09:58.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% SITTING BEHIND BARS, LOSING 09:56.933 --> 09:59.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEIR JOBS, NO ONE IS CARING FOR 09:58.533 --> 10:02.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% THEIR CHILDREN. 09:59.000 --> 10:02.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% WE NEED TO MAKE FUNDAMENTAL 10:02.333 --> 10:03.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% CHANGES. 10:02.666 --> 10:05.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> SENATE BILL 120 THAT IS LAW, 10:03.733 --> 10:07.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM BILL 10:05.833 --> 10:08.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THAT PASSED IN 2017 DIDN'T 10:07.500 --> 10:09.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ADDRESS THE ISSUE YOU RAISED. 10:08.933 --> 10:10.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 10:09.933 --> 10:11.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% CAME OFF THE TABLE. 10:10.933 --> 10:13.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% >> THAT'S RIGHT. 10:11.800 --> 10:14.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% >> AND SO WHY WAS THAT? 10:13.000 --> 10:17.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% I MEAN AND IS THERE SOME 10:14.800 --> 10:18.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% MOVEMENT INTO TO CHANGE THAT 10:17.600 --> 10:20.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THINKING, WHAT IS THE TERM, NO 10:18.733 --> 10:21.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% BAIL OR WHATEVER? 10:20.033 --> 10:22.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% IS THERE A CHANGING THINKING 10:21.800 --> 10:26.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% ABOUT THAT? 10:22.433 --> 10:28.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> I THINK WE NEED NEEDED TO DO 10:26.400 --> 10:29.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% MORE EDUCATION AND WE NEEDED TO 10:28.300 --> 10:30.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ENSURE THAT MEMBERS OF LAW 10:29.100 --> 10:31.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ENFORCEMENT WERE AT THE TABLE AT 10:30.500 --> 10:33.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% THE END OF SESSION. 10:31.700 --> 10:35.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WE WERE WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH 10:33.133 --> 10:37.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THE SHERIFFS AND THE JAILERS. 10:35.000 --> 10:38.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% IT IS REALLY A LOT OF THE LOCAL 10:37.400 --> 10:40.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAVE SO 10:38.800 --> 10:41.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% MUCH POWER AT THE LEGISLATURE. 10:40.000 --> 10:42.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% YOU KNOW THIS, IF YOU GET A CALL 10:41.500 --> 10:43.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FROM YOUR JAILER OR YOUR SHERIFF 10:42.900 --> 10:44.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% , YOU ARE GOING TO PAY 10:43.900 --> 10:46.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% ATTENTION TO THAT. 10:44.600 --> 10:49.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AND I THINK ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, 10:46.466 --> 10:51.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WHY ABLE TO COORDINATE AND SMART 10:49.600 --> 10:52.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ON CRIME COALITION CAME TOGETHER 10:51.300 --> 10:53.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% , THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 10:52.366 --> 10:55.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% PAC THAT THE ORGANIZATION, THE 10:53.800 --> 10:56.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% POLICY ASSESSMENT COUNCIL THAT 10:55.666 --> 10:58.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THE GOVERNOR PUT TOGETHER, WHEN 10:56.866 --> 10:59.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% ALL OF THOSE GROUPS WERE 10:58.566 --> 11:01.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% COORDINATING AND WORKING 10:59.466 --> 11:02.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% TOGETHER I I THINK THINGS START 11:01.033 --> 11:03.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ED WORKING BEAUTIFULLY BUT 11:02.100 --> 11:04.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% IN THE BEGINNING WHEN YOU ARE 11:03.433 --> 11:07.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE 11:04.733 --> 11:08.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% REFORMS, I THINK THERE IS A 11:07.333 --> 11:10.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% LEARNING CURVE AND I THINK IT 11:08.733 --> 11:12.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO START TALK 11:10.133 --> 11:13.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ING ABOUT WHAT HAD WORKED IN 11:12.333 --> 11:15.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% STATES LIKE TEXAS, GEORGIA, 11:13.800 --> 11:16.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SOUTH CAROLINA, AND WHEN YOU, 11:15.366 --> 11:18.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TALKING 11:16.933 --> 11:20.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ABOUT HOW THESE REFORMS HAVE 11:18.733 --> 11:22.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% LOWERED CRIME RATES, RECIDIVISM 11:20.733 --> 11:23.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% RATES AND SAVED HUNDREDS OF 11:22.033 --> 11:24.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT'S 11:23.900 --> 11:25.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% COMPELLING. 11:24.300 --> 11:27.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Renee: ONE OF THE THINGS WE 11:25.400 --> 11:28.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% CONSTANTLY HEARD DURING THE 11:27.033 --> 11:30.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% COMMITTEE TESTIMONY OR PRESS 11:28.000 --> 11:32.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% CONFERENCE, THE GOVERNOR SAID IT 11:30.900 --> 11:33.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% HIMSELF, 95% OF THOSE WHO ARE IN 11:32.500 --> 11:34.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% JAIL ARE GOING TO COME OUT. 11:33.600 --> 11:36.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% THEY'RE GOING TO GET OUT. 11:34.800 --> 11:37.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SO WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM DO WHEN 11:36.533 --> 11:38.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% THEY GET OUT? 11:37.200 --> 11:40.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE GOOD JOB 11:38.700 --> 11:41.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SKILLS THEY LEARN BEHIND BARS 11:40.000 --> 11:41.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THEY CAN PLY WHEN THEY GET ON 11:41.400 --> 11:42.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% THE. 11:41.700 --> 11:45.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% LIFT SOME OF THE ARBITRARY 11:42.700 --> 11:46.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% LICENSING BARRIERS WHERE THEY 11:45.300 --> 11:47.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% COULDN'T GET PROFESSIONAL 11:46.700 --> 11:49.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% CERTIFICATIONS AND OTHER THINGS 11:47.800 --> 11:51.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% TO HELP THEM FIND EMPLOYMENT. 11:49.100 --> 11:53.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THERE IS A LOT OF BARRIER LIFT 11:51.200 --> 11:55.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ING THAT SENATE BILL 120 DID 11:53.100 --> 11:56.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% TO HELP FELONS SUCCESSFULLY RE 11:55.100 --> 11:57.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% ENTER INTO SOCIETY. 11:56.266 --> 11:59.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% NOT ABOUT BEING SOFT ON CRIME 11:57.766 --> 12:00.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% BUT ABOUT BEING RIGHT OR SMART 11:59.266 --> 12:01.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% ON CRIME. 12:00.233 --> 12:02.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> SURE, IT'S ALSO ABOUT PROMOT 12:01.233 --> 12:05.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% ING FAMILIES. 12:02.033 --> 12:07.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE 12:05.166 --> 12:10.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% EPIDEMIC OF INCARCERATED WOMEN. 12:07.366 --> 12:11.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES, 12:10.433 --> 12:14.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% POPULATION OF INCARS INCARCERAT 12:11.933 --> 12:16.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% ED WOMEN HAS INCREASED 12:14.733 --> 12:16.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% 744%, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE 12:16.266 --> 12:18.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% INDIVIDUALS ARE MOTHERS. 12:16.900 --> 12:20.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% DO YOU KNOW KENTUCKY HAS THE 12:18.733 --> 12:22.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% HIGHEST RATE OF CHILDREN WHO 12:20.433 --> 12:24.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HAVE HAD AN INCARCERATED PARENT 12:22.266 --> 12:26.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% IN THE ENTIRE NATION. 12:24.633 --> 12:27.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% I MEAN THAT'S HEART BREAKING. 12:26.333 --> 12:29.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU START 12:27.633 --> 12:31.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% TALKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF 12:29.133 --> 12:33.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% LIKE HOW IT IMPACTS THE FAMILY 12:31.333 --> 12:33.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% AND, YOU KNOW, HOW IT DEVASTATES 12:33.033 --> 12:35.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% , YOU KNOW, THE 12:33.933 --> 12:37.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% CHILDREN OF INCARCERATED PARENTS 12:35.666 --> 12:40.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% , THOSE CHILDREN ARE FIVE 12:37.500 --> 12:41.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ENTER THE 12:40.400 --> 12:42.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% JUSTICE SYSTEM THEMSELVES THAN 12:41.600 --> 12:44.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% OTHER CHILDREN. 12:42.833 --> 12:46.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT 12:44.500 --> 12:47.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% IT IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW IT 12:46.133 --> 12:50.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% IMPACTS THE FAMILY, AND YOU 12:47.700 --> 12:52.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% MARRY THAT TO THE POSITIVE 12:50.966 --> 12:53.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT AND THE 12:52.100 --> 12:55.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% COST SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S 12:53.200 --> 12:55.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% REALLY HARD TO COUNTER THOSE 12:55.500 --> 12:57.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% ARGUMENT. 12:55.900 --> 12:58.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> Renee: AND HOW THERE IS A LOT 12:57.500 --> 13:00.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF INTERSECTIONALITY BETWEEN THE 12:58.600 --> 13:02.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, SOCIAL 13:00.966 --> 13:04.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SERVICES SYSTEM, THE WEIGHT THAT 13:02.966 --> 13:06.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE PUT ON THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM 13:04.900 --> 13:07.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% IN SCHOOLS TO HELP SUPPORT THESE 13:06.266 --> 13:08.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% KIDS, ALL OF IT IS CONNECTED, 13:07.666 --> 13:10.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONE THING 13:08.966 --> 13:11.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE IN PUBLIC 13:10.066 --> 13:12.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% POLICY, YOU HAVE THE PRIVILEGE 13:11.266 --> 13:13.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF BEING ABLE TO CONNECT THE DOT 13:12.766 --> 13:14.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:5% S. 13:13.000 --> 13:15.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT, 13:14.066 --> 13:16.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% NOTHING IS JUST AN ISLAND. 13:15.866 --> 13:19.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% IT ALL HAPPENS. 13:16.533 --> 13:21.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND I WANT TO GET TO YOUR POINT 13:19.133 --> 13:23.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ABOUT, INCARCERATED WOMEN, MORE 13:21.933 --> 13:25.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THAN 60% OF WOMEN IN JAIL OR 13:23.633 --> 13:25.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% PRISON HAVE A CHILD UNDER THE 13:25.233 --> 13:27.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25% AGE OF 18. 13:25.933 --> 13:29.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% MANY OF THEM SINGLE SUPPOSER, A 13:27.433 --> 13:30.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% LOT OF THEM MAY HAVE HAD 13:29.700 --> 13:32.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUES IN 13:30.400 --> 13:35.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THEIR PAST, MENTAL ILLNESS, SO 13:32.833 --> 13:37.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE QUESTION IS THOUGH, PEOPLE 13:35.733 --> 13:37.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% WOULD SAY EVERYBODY'S GOT 13:37.233 --> 13:39.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25% SOMETHING. 13:37.733 --> 13:41.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% RIGHT, ARE WE EXCUSING THE FACT 13:39.333 --> 13:43.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES 13:41.333 --> 13:43.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% BEHAVIOR DOES START WITH A 13:43.133 --> 13:45.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% CHOICE. 13:43.466 --> 13:47.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% AND THAT MANY PEEP COME FROM 13:45.233 --> 13:48.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY HAVE 13:47.200 --> 13:51.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THOSE DUAL DIAGNOSIS OF MENTAL 13:48.833 --> 13:52.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE BUT 13:51.500 --> 13:54.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THEY DON'T COMMIT CRIME. 13:52.333 --> 13:55.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? 13:54.033 --> 13:57.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> I'M SO GLAD YOU RAISED THIS 13:55.700 --> 13:58.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BECAUSE I WAS GETTING PUSH BACK 13:57.600 --> 14:00.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% FROM OTHER FOLKS. 13:58.433 --> 14:01.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% WHY WOULD WE TREAT WOMEN 14:00.366 --> 14:06.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% DIFFERENTLY FROM MEN? 14:01.400 --> 14:07.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND THAT'S REALLY NOT THE POINT 14:06.500 --> 14:09.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% OF OF HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. 14:07.900 --> 14:11.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% CERTAIN WILL I WE NEED TO 14:09.266 --> 14:11.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% UNDERSTAND THE DRIVERS OF FEMALE 14:11.066 --> 14:12.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% INCARCERATION. 14:11.500 --> 14:15.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHEN YOU HAVE A POPULATION THAT 14:12.466 --> 14:17.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IS EXPLODED 744% OVER THE LAST 14:15.766 --> 14:18.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% FEW DECADES AND NO ONE IS 14:17.266 --> 14:19.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% TALKING ABOUT IT, WE HAVE TO 14:18.266 --> 14:21.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS HAPPENING 14:19.300 --> 14:23.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND WE HAVE IS TO START BEING 14:21.566 --> 14:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% PROACTIVE ABOUT WHAT WEEK DO TO 14:23.166 --> 14:26.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HELP SOME OF THESE WOMEN. 14:25.366 --> 14:27.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THE VAST MAJORITY OF WOMEN 14:26.766 --> 14:30.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% INCARCERATED ARE MOTHERS. 14:27.966 --> 14:33.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% MANY OF THEM, MOST OF THEM 14:30.533 --> 14:33.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% RATHER HAVE ADDICTION ISSUES OR 14:33.066 --> 14:35.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% A MENTAL ILLNESS. 14:33.566 --> 14:36.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU DON'T 14:35.166 --> 14:37.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SEE AS MUCH IN MEN IS THAT MANY 14:36.433 --> 14:40.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF THESE WOMEN HAVE BEEN VICTIMS 14:37.933 --> 14:42.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% OF A SEVERE TRAUMA, SEXUAL ABUSE 14:40.633 --> 14:42.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% , EMOTIONAL ABUSE, MENTAL 14:42.533 --> 14:44.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% ABUSE. 14:42.833 --> 14:45.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% MANY OF THE WOMEN WHO ARE BEHIND 14:44.633 --> 14:47.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% BARS FOR VIOLENT OFFENSES 14:45.833 --> 14:48.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ACTUALLY COMMITTED VIOLENCE 14:47.433 --> 14:49.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD 14:48.633 --> 14:52.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% BEEN VIOLENT TOWARDS THEM. 14:49.633 --> 14:54.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THESE ARE NOT THE SAME ISSUES AS 14:52.333 --> 14:57.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE 14:54.633 --> 14:58.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% MALE INCARCERATION INCARCERATED 14:57.600 --> 14:59.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% POPULATION. 14:58.000 --> 15:03.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% SO WHAT WOULD I SAY IS THAT 14:59.700 --> 15:05.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SHOULD YOU TREAT MEN AND WOMEN 15:03.000 --> 15:07.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% DIFFERENTLY, YES. 15:05.500 --> 15:08.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT AND 15:07.066 --> 15:09.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% CERTAINLY WITH RESPECT TO THE 15:08.266 --> 15:11.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% PROGRAMMING THAT WE ARE PROVID 15:09.466 --> 15:12.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% ING IN PRISON AND THE 15:11.366 --> 15:13.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% COUNSELING AND THE TREATMENT AND 15:12.500 --> 15:15.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS WOMEN WHO 15:13.733 --> 15:17.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF SEXUAL 15:15.666 --> 15:19.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% ABUSE, WHO THEN TURN TO 15:17.566 --> 15:21.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ADDICTION TO HELP SELF MEDICATE 15:19.166 --> 15:22.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% TO DEAL WITH THAT TRAUMA, AND 15:21.366 --> 15:23.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE 15:22.766 --> 15:25.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% INDIVIDUALS, THAT'S WHAT LEADS 15:23.966 --> 15:27.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEM TO THESE BAD DECISIONS THAT 15:25.466 --> 15:28.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% LEADS THEM TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM 15:27.166 --> 15:30.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CERTAINLY I THINK WE SHOULD BE 15:28.466 --> 15:32.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% PROVIDING COUNSELING, TREATMENT, 15:30.866 --> 15:33.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% REHABILITATIVE SERVICES TO THESE 15:32.466 --> 15:35.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE AGAIN IF WE 15:33.666 --> 15:37.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% DON'T TREAT THEIR CORE ISSUES, 15:35.533 --> 15:39.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET OUT, 15:37.466 --> 15:40.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% RECIDIVATE AND GO BACK TO PRISON 15:39.600 --> 15:46.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Renee: AND AS YOU MENTIONED 15:40.666 --> 15:48.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FROM DEMOCRATIC SENATORS CAMILLA 15:46.233 --> 15:52.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% HARRIS, REPUBLICAN MIA LOVE, 15:48.333 --> 15:55.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% UTAH GOVERNOR, MARY FALLON, 15:52.466 --> 15:56.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THERE IS BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT 15:55.200 --> 15:59.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% ABOUT THE ISSUE. 15:56.233 --> 16:01.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% WE HAVE DONE A FEW PROGRAMS 15:59.433 --> 16:02.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% ABOUT ADVERSE CHILDHOOD 16:01.000 --> 16:03.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% EXPERIENCES, TRAUMA THAT AFFECTS 16:02.400 --> 16:05.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DECISION MAKING THAT IS ON THIS 16:03.700 --> 16:06.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SIDE OF THE FREEDOM OF THE BARS 16:05.400 --> 16:07.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% OR ELSEWHERE. 16:06.000 --> 16:08.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% SO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 16:07.700 --> 16:09.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND 16:08.500 --> 16:11.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% PARTICULARLY THE PIECE ABOUT, 16:09.533 --> 16:13.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BILL, YOU 16:11.166 --> 16:16.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% KNOW VERY WELL, DIGNITY FOR 16:13.566 --> 16:17.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% INCARCERATED WOMEN ACT, COREY 16:16.100 --> 16:19.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% BOOKER, ELIZABETH WARREN, 16:17.900 --> 16:23.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% RICHARD DURBIN, THIS ADDRESSES 16:19.366 --> 16:28.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THE FACT THAT WOMEN WOULD BE 16:23.266 --> 16:29.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SHACKLED DURING PREGNANCY, AFTER 16:28.166 --> 16:29.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25% PREGNANCY. 16:29.066 --> 16:31.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% >> DURING LABOR. 16:29.766 --> 16:34.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THERE ARE MANY STATES FOR THE 16:31.666 --> 16:36.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SHACKLING OF PREGNANT WOMEN AS 16:34.266 --> 16:38.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THEY'RE DELIVERING A BABY. 16:36.666 --> 16:41.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% NOW AS SOMEONE WHO HAS IN FACT 16:38.566 --> 16:44.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BEEN THROUGH LABOR, I CAN'T 16:41.766 --> 16:45.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO 16:44.066 --> 16:48.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% ESCAPE WHILE GIVING BIRTH TO A 16:45.766 --> 16:51.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CHILD, YOU KNOW, AND CERTAINLY 16:48.766 --> 16:53.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S UNNECESSARY, 16:51.266 --> 16:55.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% YOU KNOW. 16:53.800 --> 16:57.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND SO THE CONFERENCE THAT WE 16:55.966 --> 16:58.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% JUST HAD IN WASHINGTON D.C. 16:57.566 --> 17:00.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE IN 16:58.933 --> 17:01.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% PARTICULAR BUT THEN ALSO A LOT 17:00.466 --> 17:02.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WOMEN 17:01.500 --> 17:04.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% HAVE TO DEAL WITH. 17:02.400 --> 17:05.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% I MEAN AGAIN, WOMEN HAVE 17:04.100 --> 17:08.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% DIFFERENT HEALTH NEEDS THAN MEN. 17:05.533 --> 17:10.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% DID YOU KNOW THAT ONE IN FOUR 17:08.400 --> 17:12.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WOMEN INTERESTERRING-- ENTERING 17:10.933 --> 17:14.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS EITHER 17:12.300 --> 17:15.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% PREGNANT OR THE MOTHER OF A 17:14.200 --> 17:17.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF ONE. 17:15.800 --> 17:18.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% 25% OF THE WOMEN WHO ARE ENTER 17:17.000 --> 17:21.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% ING OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. 17:18.900 --> 17:23.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% I MOON IF THAT-- I MEAN IF THAT 17:21.900 --> 17:24.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DOESN'T CONCERN YOU, THERE IS A 17:23.000 --> 17:25.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% REAL PROBLEM THERE. 17:24.766 --> 17:27.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% AND... 17:25.066 --> 17:29.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> Renee: DO WE KNOW IF THE 17:27.100 --> 17:31.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SENTENCES IS THERE A DISPARITY 17:29.500 --> 17:31.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% IN SENTENCING BETWEEN WOMEN AND 17:31.066 --> 17:32.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% MEN. 17:31.466 --> 17:34.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED BETWEEN 17:32.800 --> 17:36.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% AFRICAN AMERICANS AND THE MARKET 17:34.266 --> 17:39.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% POPULATION WHEN IT CAME TO DRUG 17:36.166 --> 17:39.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% OFFENSES, CRACK COCAINE VS. 17:39.166 --> 17:40.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% POWDER. 17:39.500 --> 17:41.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% DO WE SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH 17:40.866 --> 17:43.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% GENDER? 17:41.466 --> 17:47.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT RESEARCH. 17:43.466 --> 17:50.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE SEEN A LOT 17:47.466 --> 17:51.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% OF UNDULY HARSH SENTENCES FOR 17:50.266 --> 17:54.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WOMEN WHO HAVE COMMITTED LOW 17:51.966 --> 17:55.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% LEVEL NON-VIOLENT CRIMES 17:54.566 --> 17:57.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% PARTICULARLY DRUG CRIMES. 17:55.566 --> 17:58.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WOMEN ACT AS MULES FOR MANY OF 17:57.266 --> 17:59.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THEIR BOYFRIENDS WHO ARE MORE 17:58.266 --> 18:02.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THE DEALERS AND TRAFFICKERS. 17:59.866 --> 18:04.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEY GET CAUGHT UP AND, YOU KNOW 18:02.333 --> 18:05.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% , THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THEY 18:04.333 --> 18:07.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% HAVE TO PLEAD OUT AND MANY OF 18:05.733 --> 18:09.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THEM ARE SERVING LONGER SENTENCE 18:07.800 --> 18:12.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% S THAN THEIR MALE 18:09.500 --> 18:13.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% COUNTERPARTS WHO HAD DEEPER 18:12.500 --> 18:15.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% INVOLVEMENT IN THE DRUG SCEEP. 18:13.500 --> 18:16.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% AND WE SEE THAT A LOT. 18:15.000 --> 18:16.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> AND I GUESS IT'S IMPORTANT TO 18:16.500 --> 18:18.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% COMMUNICATE. 18:16.900 --> 18:20.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NON-VIOLENT 18:18.100 --> 18:21.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% LOW LEVEL OFFENDERS HERE. 18:20.300 --> 18:24.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AND SO THERE IS NOT A MOVEMENT 18:21.500 --> 18:27.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS 18:24.300 --> 18:27.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HOW WE DEAL WITH VIOLENT OFFEND 18:27.400 --> 18:28.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% ERS. 18:27.666 --> 18:29.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% THAT'S NOT WHAT YOUR 18:28.900 --> 18:32.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ORGANIZATION IS TAKING UP. 18:29.833 --> 18:33.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> BUT WE GET PUSHBACK SOMETIMES 18:32.300 --> 18:36.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER DRUG 18:33.900 --> 18:37.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% CRIMES ARE VIOLENT CRIMES 18:36.200 --> 18:39.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% BECAUSE DRUG TRADE IS INHERENTLY 18:37.966 --> 18:42.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% VIOLENT AND WOULD I SUBMIT TO 18:39.466 --> 18:43.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% YOU, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, YOU 18:42.066 --> 18:45.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% ACCEPT THAT ARGUMENT, THE 18:43.900 --> 18:48.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THE LONGER 18:45.766 --> 18:49.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SENTENCES ARE ACTUALLY HARMFUL 18:48.266 --> 18:50.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% TO PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE WHAT 18:49.166 --> 18:52.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% HAPPENS IS THE LONGER THAT THESE 18:50.866 --> 18:53.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% INDIVIDUALS ARE ISOLATED FROM 18:52.666 --> 18:56.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SOCIETY, THE LESS LIKELY THEY 18:53.966 --> 18:58.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ARE TO SUCCESSFULLY REENTER, AND 18:56.466 --> 18:59.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, 18:58.100 --> 19:00.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% GOVERNOR BEVIN SAYS ALL THE TIME 18:59.366 --> 19:01.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% , 95% OF THESE INDIVIDUALS 19:00.433 --> 19:03.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% ARE GETTING OUT SOME DAY. 19:01.633 --> 19:05.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SO IF YOU'VE GOT A MANDATORY 10 19:03.733 --> 19:07.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% -YEAR MANDATORY MINIMUM FOR AN 19:05.866 --> 19:09.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% INDIVIDUAL WHO IS BUSTED FOR, 19:07.033 --> 19:11.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% YOU KNOW, A FIRST TIME FELONY 19:09.666 --> 19:13.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DRUG CRIME, THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT 19:11.433 --> 19:14.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% OF TIME TO BE SEGREGATED FROM 19:13.333 --> 19:16.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SOCIETY AND ESPECIALLY IF THAT 19:14.533 --> 19:17.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% INDIVIDUAL ISN'T GETTING JOB 19:16.033 --> 19:18.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% TRAINING, TREATMENT, 19:17.700 --> 19:19.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% REHABILITATION, I'M DEEPLY 19:18.700 --> 19:22.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT PERSON 19:19.600 --> 19:23.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IS GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN HE OR 19:22.533 --> 19:25.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% SHE REENTERS SOCIETY. 19:23.866 --> 19:26.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Renee: WHAT IS THE NEXT LEG, 19:25.900 --> 19:27.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% IN KENTUCKY. 19:26.400 --> 19:30.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% LET'S GO BACK TO KENTUCKY. 19:27.700 --> 19:33.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% KENTUCKY, YOU KNOW, NOW LAW SB 19:30.900 --> 19:35.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% 120, DOINTD KNOW-- I DON'T KNOW 19:33.300 --> 19:36.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THE EXACT TITLE OF THE ACT BUT 19:35.300 --> 19:37.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% THAT'S NOW LAW. 19:36.600 --> 19:38.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ARE THERE CONVERSATIONS NOW 19:37.700 --> 19:41.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HAPPENING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT 19:38.700 --> 19:43.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DIDN'T MAKE IT IN INT 120 FOR A 19:41.500 --> 19:43.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BUDGETARY SESSION AND ALL THE 19:43.000 --> 19:45.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE 19:43.733 --> 19:46.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% HAPPENING IN 2018. 19:45.400 --> 19:48.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> THAT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO 19:46.800 --> 19:49.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT 19:48.000 --> 19:51.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM, YOU 19:49.100 --> 19:53.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% KNOW, DURING A TIME WHEN 19:51.400 --> 19:54.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% EVERYBODY IS SCRAPPING FOR EVERY 19:53.100 --> 19:56.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, 19:54.766 --> 19:57.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, 19:56.033 --> 19:59.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOW IS THE 19:57.500 --> 20:00.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% TIME TO TALK ABOUT SAFELY 19:59.266 --> 20:03.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% REDUCING THE PRISON AND JAIL 20:00.666 --> 20:04.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% POPULATION IN KENTUCKY JAILS 20:03.366 --> 20:06.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ESPECIALLY OR SERIOUS OVERCROWD 20:04.900 --> 20:07.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% ING ISSUES IS REALLY A 20:06.200 --> 20:08.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN BUT I 20:07.200 --> 20:08.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THINK BAIL REFORM IS THE NEXT 20:08.266 --> 20:10.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% STEP. 20:08.566 --> 20:11.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AS I MENTIONED YOU HAVE ALL OF 20:10.266 --> 20:14.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE 20:11.900 --> 20:16.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ACCUSED, NOT CONVICTED, ACCUSED 20:14.566 --> 20:18.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% OF LOW LEVEL NON-VIOLENT CRIMES 20:16.400 --> 20:19.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% WHO ARE SITTING BEHIND BARS 20:18.366 --> 20:21.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% MERELY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY 20:19.666 --> 20:23.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THEIR BAIL, MEANWHILE VIOLENT 20:21.466 --> 20:23.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% OFFENDERS WHO CAN POST BAIL ARE 20:23.266 --> 20:25.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% GETTING OUT. 20:23.766 --> 20:26.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% I MEAN TO ME THAT'S NOT PROMOT 20:25.666 --> 20:27.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% ING PUBLIC SAFETY. 20:26.266 --> 20:29.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THAT'S JUST ALL ABOUT WHOEVER 20:27.533 --> 20:32.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HAS THE MONEY GETS THE JUSTICE. 20:29.833 --> 20:34.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY OUR 20:32.266 --> 20:35.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ORGANIZATION PROGRESSIVE AND 20:34.066 --> 20:37.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CONSERVATIVES INVOLVED WITH IT 20:35.033 --> 20:40.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% FEEL THE JUSTICE SYSTEM SHOULD 20:37.333 --> 20:41.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. 20:40.000 --> 20:43.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Renee: HOUSE BILL 333 THAT 20:41.433 --> 20:45.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WAS PASSED HAS BECOME LAW THAT 20:43.333 --> 20:49.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WOULD CRIMINALIZE TRAFFICKING 20:45.133 --> 20:50.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ANY AMOUNT OF HEROIN, FENTANYL, 20:49.033 --> 20:54.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% MANY PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT 20:50.233 --> 20:56.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WAS A RETREAT FROM DRUG CODE 20:54.933 --> 20:58.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% REFORM 2011-2013. 20:56.333 --> 20:59.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE 20:58.433 --> 21:02.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE FROM 20:59.733 --> 21:05.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WHERE YOU SIT THAT PERHAPS, YOU 21:02.800 --> 21:09.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% KNOW, WE, THE CONVENTIONAL THINK 21:05.400 --> 21:11.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% ING HAS BEEN ABOUT THE 21:09.900 --> 21:15.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ADDICTS GET INTO PEDDLING TO 21:11.666 --> 21:16.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% FEED THEIR HABIT, RIGHT? 21:15.866 --> 21:17.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% >> YES. 21:16.266 --> 21:19.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> Renee: THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO 21:17.266 --> 21:20.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% GET THEIR OWN HIGH BECAUSE OF 21:19.300 --> 21:22.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THEIR ADDICTION AND DISEASE. 21:20.333 --> 21:23.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT WILL 21:22.566 --> 21:24.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% IMPACT THE CORRECTIONS BUDGET 21:23.866 --> 21:25.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% AND REVERSE THE POSITIVE 21:24.966 --> 21:26.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% MOVEMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE 21:25.766 --> 21:27.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% MAKING WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 21:26.900 --> 21:28.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% REFORM EFFORT? 21:27.766 --> 21:29.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE 21:28.600 --> 21:31.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% ARE NOT HITTING THE MANUFACTUR 21:29.966 --> 21:33.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% ERS AND THE IMPORTERS. 21:31.966 --> 21:34.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO 21:33.066 --> 21:36.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% ARE LACING THE HEROIN WITH 21:34.766 --> 21:37.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% FENTANYL WHICH IS INCREDIBLY 21:36.566 --> 21:38.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25% DANGEROUS. 21:37.000 --> 21:40.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% THAT'S LIKE PLAYING RUSSIAN 21:38.366 --> 21:43.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% ROULETTE AND SO WHILE I 21:40.566 --> 21:43.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% UNDERSTAND LET'S HIT THE TRAFFIC 21:43.133 --> 21:44.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% KERS. 21:43.466 --> 21:45.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% LET'S UNDERSTAND WHAT A TRAFFIC 21:44.533 --> 21:46.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% KER IS. 21:45.066 --> 21:48.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU KNOW, IN SOME STATES LIKE, 21:46.933 --> 21:49.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% FOR EXAMPLE, IN OHIO, IN ORDER 21:48.100 --> 21:50.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% TO BE A TRAFFICKER OF HEROIN YOU 21:49.566 --> 21:52.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ONLY HAVE TO HAVE A GRAHAM OF 21:50.933 --> 21:54.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% HEROIN ON YOU. 21:52.533 --> 21:56.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WELL, YOU KNOW, THEN EVERYBODY 21:54.233 --> 21:58.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IS A TRAFFICKER AND SO I THINK 21:56.433 --> 22:00.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN 21:58.833 --> 22:02.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN THOSE 22:00.500 --> 22:04.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SICK AND WHO 22:02.900 --> 22:05.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% GET CAUGHT UP IN THE DRUG TRADE 22:04.700 --> 22:07.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S PART OF 22:05.800 --> 22:09.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% FEEDING THEIR ADDICTION AND 22:07.200 --> 22:12.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THOSE WHO ARE TRULY TRYING TO 22:09.800 --> 22:12.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% DRIVE THE DRUG TRADE IN THIS 22:12.000 --> 22:14.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% COUNTRY. 22:12.333 --> 22:15.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% AGAIN WE ARE NOT HITTING THE 22:14.000 --> 22:16.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% IMPORTERS OR ADDRESSING THIS 22:15.000 --> 22:16.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THROUGH THE IMMIGRATION REFORMS 22:16.066 --> 22:19.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT 22:16.966 --> 22:20.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% NOW AND TO ME THAT IS THE 22:19.366 --> 22:21.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% BIGGEST ISSUE. 22:20.300 --> 22:22.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> Renee: SURE, TALK ABOUT BEING 22:21.100 --> 22:25.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% ALL CONNECTED. 22:22.200 --> 22:27.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SPEAKING OF THAT MEASURE THAT 22:25.266 --> 22:29.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% PASSED, KIM MOSER, A BIG BACKER 22:27.500 --> 22:32.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% OF THE BILL, REPRESENTATIVE KIM 22:29.666 --> 22:34.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% MOSER FROM NORTHERN KENTUCKY 22:32.266 --> 22:35.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% NURSE, MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, 22:34.466 --> 22:37.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% CONSERVATIVE. 22:35.266 --> 22:39.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND SHE WROTE A VERY POIGNANT 22:37.500 --> 22:41.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% PIECE IN THE CINCINNATI PAPER 22:39.166 --> 22:42.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% SAYING WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHY 22:41.666 --> 22:44.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WOMEN ARE BEHIND BARS AND THE 22:42.966 --> 22:46.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% DRIVERS FOR THEM BEING THERE AND 22:44.266 --> 22:47.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HAD WRITTEN THAT IN KENTUCKY IN 22:46.266 --> 22:50.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% 2015, THE NUMBER OF WOMEN IN 22:47.766 --> 22:52.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% PRISONS GREW BY 25%, FIVE TIMES 22:50.566 --> 22:53.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% THE RATE OF MEN AND THAT 22:52.166 --> 22:54.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS THE MAIN 22:53.166 --> 22:56.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% REASON FOR THAT. 22:54.333 --> 22:58.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> I WAS INDREADBLY PROUD OF HER 22:56.633 --> 22:58.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% I DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW HER THAT 22:58.033 --> 22:59.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% WELL. 22:58.333 --> 23:01.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% I MET HER DURING MY TIME 234 22:59.966 --> 23:03.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% KENTUCKY WHEN SHE RAN FOR OFFICE 23:01.433 --> 23:07.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AFTER I HAD MOVED TO D.C. AND 23:03.400 --> 23:09.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% SHE WAS INCREDIBLE. 23:07.300 --> 23:11.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT 23:09.200 --> 23:14.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WENT TO HER BREAKOUT SESSION 23:11.600 --> 23:17.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WHERE SHE SAT ON A PANEL WITH 23:14.800 --> 23:21.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% FORMERLY INCARCERATED WOMEN AND 23:17.600 --> 23:22.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% CLEARLY KNOWS THESE ISSUES VERY 23:21.000 --> 23:23.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% WELL, UNDERSTANDS ADDICTION AND 23:22.200 --> 23:25.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IN 23:23.400 --> 23:26.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% TERMS OF TREATMENT AND 23:25.166 --> 23:28.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% REHABILITATIVE SERVICES. 23:26.666 --> 23:29.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% EVERYONE AROUND IS SAYING SHE IS 23:28.733 --> 23:31.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% FROM KENTUCKY? 23:29.300 --> 23:32.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% YES, SHE IS MY HOME STATE. 23:31.266 --> 23:34.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE 23:32.566 --> 23:34.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% BIG THINGS OUT OF HER IN THE 23:34.266 --> 23:35.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% FUTURE. 23:34.600 --> 23:36.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> Renee: AND THE FACT THAT WELL 23:35.466 --> 23:38.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AND SHE SEEMS 23:36.866 --> 23:40.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% TO BE EVEN THOUGH SHE IS JUST A 23:38.766 --> 23:42.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% FRESHMAN, CERTAINLY SHE HAD RAY 23:40.666 --> 23:44.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% BIG BILL. 23:42.600 --> 23:44.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> SHE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A 23:44.166 --> 23:45.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% FRESHMAN. 23:44.533 --> 23:46.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% >> Renee: SHE DOESN'T. 23:45.200 --> 23:47.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE HER ON VERY 23:46.600 --> 23:48.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% SOON TO TALK ABOUT HER CAREER 23:47.866 --> 23:50.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% AND SOME OF THE THINGS SHE IS 23:48.966 --> 23:52.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WORKING ON BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE 23:50.466 --> 23:53.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% PER THAPS THIS MIGHT BE AN ISSUE 23:52.466 --> 23:54.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% SHE MIGHT TAKE UP IN 2018. 23:53.766 --> 23:55.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> I THINK SHE IS VERY INTEREST 23:54.733 --> 23:57.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% ED IN THIS. 23:55.666 --> 23:58.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU KNOW AND AGAIN SHE IS VERY 23:57.566 --> 24:00.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% KNOWLEDGEABLE. 23:58.000 --> 24:03.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SHE HAS A HEALTHCARE BACKGROUND, 24:00.133 --> 24:04.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% AND BECAUSE OF I THINK HER 24:03.733 --> 24:06.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% INVOLVEMENT IN THE OFFICE OF 24:04.733 --> 24:09.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% DRUG CONTROL POLICY, SHE IS JUST 24:06.400 --> 24:11.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% , I THINK HAS A HANDLE ON 24:09.233 --> 24:13.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% LIKE REALLY WHAT ARE THE DRIVERS 24:11.500 --> 24:14.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ARE INCARCERATION, PARTICULARLY 24:13.533 --> 24:15.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:42.5% HERE IN KENTUCKY. 24:14.066 --> 24:17.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% YOU KNOW THIS RENEE, EVERY 24:15.800 --> 24:18.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% SINGLE KENTUCKY FAMILY HAS 24:17.200 --> 24:21.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% SOMEHOW BEEN BY THE DRUG 24:18.700 --> 24:24.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SCOURGE AND SO I DON'T THINK ANY 24:21.400 --> 24:26.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% OF THOSE FAMILIES WOULD WANT TO 24:24.100 --> 24:28.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% US THROW IN THE TOWEL ON THEIR 24:26.100 --> 24:30.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS SICK. 24:28.333 --> 24:32.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR GOVERNOR 24:30.533 --> 24:33.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BEVIN TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE 24:32.200 --> 24:35.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% TIME. 24:33.300 --> 24:36.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% EVERYBODY CAN BE REDEEMED. 24:35.200 --> 24:38.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% AND I THINK SHE IS A FIRM 24:36.800 --> 24:39.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% BELIEVER IN THAT AS WELL. 24:38.000 --> 24:41.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Renee: AND HE HAS MADE SOME 24:39.566 --> 24:44.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ACTIONS REDEEMING ACTIONS FOR 24:41.166 --> 24:46.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FORMER FELONS, YOU KNOW, BAN THE 24:44.566 --> 24:48.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% STATE BOX ON THE APPLICATION. 24:46.466 --> 24:49.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% AND FOR FELONS. 24:48.800 --> 24:51.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% AND IT SEEMS TO BE GOING FURTHER 24:49.966 --> 24:54.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DO YOU THINK THAT THE NEXT STEP 24:51.966 --> 24:56.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% FOR KENTUCKY FOR FELON REENTRY 24:54.166 --> 24:57.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% NEXT LOGICAL STEP WOULD BE 24:56.366 --> 24:58.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AUTOMATIC RESTORATION OF VOTING 24:57.866 --> 25:03.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% RIGHTS? 24:58.966 --> 25:04.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% >> I THINK THAT IT WILL 25:03.066 --> 25:05.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% CERTAINLY BE ON THE TABLE. 25:04.733 --> 25:06.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% >> FOR NON VIOLENCE. 25:05.533 --> 25:08.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> I'M SURE THAT'S ON THE TABLE 25:06.833 --> 25:10.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% FOR OUR ORGANIZATION OUR BIGGEST 25:08.533 --> 25:12.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% CONCERN IS ENSURING THESE 25:10.033 --> 25:14.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% INDIVIDUALS HAVE JOBS. 25:12.033 --> 25:17.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% BECAUSE A JOB IS, I THINK, YOU 25:14.633 --> 25:20.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% KNOW, THE GREATEST WALL BETWEEN 25:17.933 --> 25:22.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% A FORMER OFFENDER RETURNING TO A 25:20.533 --> 25:23.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% LIFE OF CRIME AND THERE ARE A 25:22.533 --> 25:25.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% LOT OF STATES THAT ARE DOING 25:23.600 --> 25:26.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SOME REALLY INTERESTING THINGS 25:25.200 --> 25:28.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% WITH JOB TRAINING. 25:26.700 --> 25:31.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% IT'S REAL INTERESTING. 25:28.000 --> 25:32.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THE KENTUCKY MANUFACTURERS 25:31.100 --> 25:34.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% ASSOCIATION HAD BEEN LAMENTING 25:32.000 --> 25:35.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THE DIRTH OF SKILLED LABOR IN 25:34.500 --> 25:36.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% KENTUCKY RIGHT NOW. 25:35.700 --> 25:39.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THERE IS A LOT OF JOBS WHERE 25:36.800 --> 25:40.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% THEY CAN'T FIND INDIVIDUALS TO 25:39.100 --> 25:41.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% FILL THESE JOBS AND THESE ARE 25:40.600 --> 25:43.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% GOOD WELL PAYING JOBS. 25:41.800 --> 25:45.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED 25:43.400 --> 25:48.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% AT HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A PIPE 25:45.900 --> 25:50.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% FITTER SO I THINK MARRYING THE 25:48.900 --> 25:51.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% MARKET, THE JOBS THAT ARE 25:50.400 --> 25:54.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET TO THE 25:51.800 --> 25:55.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% JOB TRAINING THAT A LOT OF THESE 25:54.466 --> 25:56.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% INMATES ARE RECEIVING, I THINK 25:55.700 --> 25:57.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% IS CRITICAL. 25:56.400 --> 26:00.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO GREAT TO 25:57.900 --> 26:01.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SEE THE CHAMBER AND A LOT OF THE 26:00.533 --> 26:03.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BUSINESS GROUPS VERY INVOLVED 26:01.533 --> 26:05.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% AND YOU SEE LIKE DON BALL WITH 26:03.966 --> 26:08.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BALL HOMES WHO WROTE A VERY 26:05.833 --> 26:09.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% POIGNANT OP-ED IN SUPPORT OF 26:08.100 --> 26:10.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% SENATE BILL 120. 26:09.533 --> 26:12.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% MAC BROWN WHO IS THE CHAIR OF 26:10.633 --> 26:13.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF KENTUCKY 26:12.066 --> 26:16.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% , BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, 26:13.966 --> 26:18.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% HE WROTE AN OP-ED, I BELIEVE IT 26:16.333 --> 26:20.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% WAS IN THE COURIER IN SUPPORT OF 26:18.333 --> 26:21.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% THE EXPUNGEMENT BILL THAT DID 26:20.133 --> 26:23.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% EVENTUALLY PASS. 26:21.233 --> 26:24.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% SO YOU HAVE THESE REALLY 26:23.233 --> 26:25.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% CONSERVATIVE BUSINESS LEADERS 26:24.533 --> 26:27.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% WHO ARE NOW GETTING OUT THERE 26:25.733 --> 26:29.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% AND SAYING LOOK, WE'VE GOT A 26:27.533 --> 26:31.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% DIRTH OF SKILLED LABOR, WE COULD 26:29.933 --> 26:33.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% HELP TO TRAIN THIS INMATE 26:31.633 --> 26:35.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% POPULATION AND NOT ONLY WILL 26:33.133 --> 26:38.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% THAT HELP US, YOU KNOW, IN 26:35.733 --> 26:40.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% FINDING SKILLED LABORERS AND 26:38.533 --> 26:42.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BROADEN THE POOL OF SKILLED 26:40.333 --> 26:43.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% LABORERS BUT HAVE A POSITIVE 26:42.333 --> 26:45.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% IMPACT ON FEDERAL SAFETY. 26:43.433 --> 26:47.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ONE 26:45.500 --> 26:48.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% MINUTE, OH PLY GOSH, WHAT IS THE 26:47.600 --> 26:50.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ONE MEASURE YOU WOULD WANT TO 26:48.600 --> 26:52.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% GET THROUGH IN THE NEXT, WELL 26:50.800 --> 26:53.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% THIS CURRENT SESSION OF CONGRESS 26:52.300 --> 26:55.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% >> WELL THERE IS A BILL THAT WAS 26:53.600 --> 26:56.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% RECENTLY FILED BY REPRESENTATIVE 26:55.400 --> 26:59.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% DOUG COLLINS, THE PRISON REFORM 26:56.833 --> 27:01.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% BILL THAT IS THE BACK REFORMS 26:59.600 --> 27:02.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ENSURING VOCATIONAL REHABILITAT 27:01.966 --> 27:03.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% IVE SERVICES, 27:02.866 --> 27:04.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% INTRODUCED IT YESTERDAY BUT 27:03.533 --> 27:06.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THERE IS A BILL VERY FEW PEOPLE 27:04.866 --> 27:08.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE COREY 27:06.966 --> 27:11.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% BOOKER FILED, TURN BACK THE 27:08.666 --> 27:13.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% CLOCK ON THE 94 CRIME BILL AND 27:11.133 --> 27:14.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% INCENTIVIZE STATES RATHER THAN 27:13.133 --> 27:16.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% INCENTIVIZING THEM FOR BUILDING 27:14.166 --> 27:17.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% MORE PRISONS, BUT TO SAFELY 27:16.133 --> 27:19.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% REDUCE THE PRISON POPULATIONS 27:17.733 --> 27:20.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% AND THE INCENTIVES WOULD BE BAS 27:19.133 --> 27:22.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ED ON THOSE STATES THAT LOWER 27:20.733 --> 27:23.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THEIR CRIME RATES AND LOWER THE 27:22.733 --> 27:24.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:27.5% RECIDIVISM. 27:23.133 --> 27:26.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% A GREAT BILL. 27:24.233 --> 27:26.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Renee: YOU CAN TELL SHE HAS 27:26.233 --> 27:28.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% DONE TV. 27:26.733 --> 27:30.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% SHE LOOKS AT THE CLOCK AND KNOWS 27:28.733 --> 27:31.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% SHE HAS TO STOP TALKING. 27:30.033 --> 27:32.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU AND THE 27:31.333 --> 27:34.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% WAY YOU REPRESENT KENTUCKY AND 27:32.733 --> 27:35.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% THE ELOQUENCE YOU BRING TO YOUR 27:34.033 --> 27:36.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ISSUE AND THE PASSION YOU BRING 27:35.033 --> 27:37.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% TO IT. 27:36.033 --> 27:38.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% SO CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME 27:37.833 --> 27:40.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:12.5% HOME. 27:38.133 --> 27:41.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% >> I THIS GREAT TEACHERS. 27:40.233 --> 27:42.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Renee: I WASN'T YOUR TEACHER 27:41.466 --> 27:44.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% BUT GLAD TO CALL YOU FRIEND AND 27:42.800 --> 27:45.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% GLAD YOU ARE BACK HOME AND DOING 27:44.300 --> 27:47.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% GREAT WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 27:45.800 --> 27:48.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% HOLLY HARRIS. 27:47.133 --> 27:50.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% REMEMBER THAT NAME. 27:48.733 --> 27:51.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% JUSTICE ACTION NETWORK WHO IS 27:50.033 --> 27:51.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% SHE REPRESENTS, EXECUTIVE 27:51.433 --> 27:53.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% DIRECTOR. 27:51.800 --> 27:55.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% WE ARE GLAD SHE WAS WITH US. 27:53.566 --> 27:59.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% YOU CAN FOLLOW ME ON FACEBOOK, 27:55.633 --> 28:01.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% TWITTER INSTAGRAM AND WATCH PAST 27:59.200 --> 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