1 00:00:00,233 --> 00:00:08,433 ♪♪ 2 00:00:08,433 --> 00:00:08,933 >> Announcer: THE NUCLEAR 3 00:00:08,933 --> 00:00:09,433 ACCIDENT AT THREE MILE ISLAND 4 00:00:09,433 --> 00:00:10,766 CAME CLOSE TO A DISASTER. 5 00:00:10,766 --> 00:00:11,400 ON MARCH 28, 1979 THE PLANT UNIT 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,800 TWO REACTOR PARTIALLY MELTED 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,500 DOWN. 8 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,733 FEARING FOR THEIR SAFETY, AN 9 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:19,933 ESTIMATED 80,000 PEOPLE FLED THE 10 00:00:19,933 --> 00:00:23,600 REGION. 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,500 >> I TOOK OUR MARRIAGE 12 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:25,133 CERTIFICATE AND I TOOK 13 00:00:25,133 --> 00:00:28,800 CHILDREN'S BIRTH CERTIFICATES. 14 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,500 I WAS CONCERNED THAT IF IN THE 15 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:31,166 CONFUSION THINGS REALLY GOT BAD 16 00:00:31,166 --> 00:00:37,333 THAT I COULD PROVE THOSE WERE MY 17 00:00:37,333 --> 00:00:37,633 CHILDREN AND THAT WE COULD AT 18 00:00:37,633 --> 00:00:38,500 LEAST BE TOGETHER. 19 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:39,600 >> Announcer: JOYCE CARRODI WAS 20 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,600 A YOUNG MOTHER OF FOUR RUNNING A 21 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,366 DAYCARE OUT OF HER HOME A FEW 22 00:00:41,366 --> 00:00:43,566 MILES FROM THE PLANT. 23 00:00:43,566 --> 00:00:44,566 >> MY STRONGEST MEMORY IS 24 00:00:44,566 --> 00:00:45,566 PULLING OUT OF THIS DRIVEWAY AND 25 00:00:45,566 --> 00:00:46,533 WONDERING IF I WOULD EVER COME 26 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:48,233 BACK. 27 00:00:48,233 --> 00:00:49,066 >> Announcer: PUBLIC OFFICIALS, 28 00:00:49,066 --> 00:00:50,133 EVEN THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T SEEM TO 29 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:51,600 KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 30 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,400 >> WE'RE GETTING CONFLICTING 31 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,466 REPORTS TOO. 32 00:00:55,466 --> 00:00:56,533 WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE 33 00:00:56,533 --> 00:00:58,033 YOU OUR BEST ESTIMATE OF WHAT 34 00:00:58,033 --> 00:01:00,400 THE ACCURATE FACTS ARE. 35 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,800 >> Announcer: AFTER ABOUT A 36 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,466 WEEK, PEOPLE RETURNED HOME. 37 00:01:01,466 --> 00:01:02,433 THE PLANT EVENTUALLY REOPENED 38 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:03,733 MINUS THE ONE DAMAGED REACTOR. 39 00:01:03,733 --> 00:01:09,566 NOW, 40 YEARS LATER A NEW CRISIS 40 00:01:09,566 --> 00:01:10,800 LOOMS -- 41 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,366 CLIMATE CHANGE. 42 00:01:11,366 --> 00:01:12,133 >> THE CHANGES WILL GET BIGGER 43 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:12,666 IF WE DON'T CHANGE WHAT WE'RE 44 00:01:12,666 --> 00:01:13,666 DOING AND THEY WILL GET MUCH 45 00:01:13,666 --> 00:01:16,266 MORE DAMAGING. 46 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:18,000 >> Announcer: NUCLEAR ADVOCATES 47 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,600 SAY THERE'S LITTLE HOPE OF 48 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,400 TACKLING CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE 49 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,300 SHORT TERM WITHOUT THE 50 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:22,500 CARBON-FREE POWER FROM THE 51 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:24,133 PLANTS. 52 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:25,000 BUT, MANY FACILITY ACROSS THE 53 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,233 U.S. ARE OLD AND UNPROFITABLE AS 54 00:01:26,233 --> 00:01:27,100 THEY FACE COMPETITION FROM 55 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:31,266 CHEAPER NATURAL GAS AND 56 00:01:31,266 --> 00:01:32,500 RENEWABLE ENERGY. 57 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:33,233 >> AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF 58 00:01:33,233 --> 00:01:34,333 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 59 00:01:34,333 --> 00:01:35,233 DECARBONIZING OUR POWER SECTOR, 60 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:37,766 WE'RE GONNA NEED THESE 61 00:01:37,766 --> 00:01:41,233 RESOURCES. 62 00:01:41,233 --> 00:01:42,166 >> Announcer: EXELON WHICH OWNS 63 00:01:42,166 --> 00:01:46,600 THREE MILE ISLAND'S UNIT ONE 64 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,033 REACTOR INTENDS TO CLOSE THE 65 00:01:47,033 --> 00:01:47,733 PLANT THIS FALL, MORE THAN A 66 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:49,100 DECADE BEFORE ITS OPERATING 67 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:50,133 LICENSE EXPIRES. 68 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:51,266 FIRST ENERGY IS ALSO PLANNING AN 69 00:01:51,266 --> 00:01:53,600 EARLY RETIREMENT FOR ITS BEAVER 70 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,833 VALLEY PLANT NEAR PITTSBURGH. 71 00:01:55,833 --> 00:01:56,966 HUNDREDS OF WORKERS LIKE 72 00:01:56,966 --> 00:01:58,500 CHRISTINE AND NATE DeSANTOS FACE 73 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:00,566 LOSING THEIR JOBS. 74 00:02:00,566 --> 00:02:02,200 >> IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE MIGHT 75 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,533 HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH 76 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:04,533 DECISIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE 77 00:02:04,533 --> 00:02:06,366 WE'RE GONNA MOVE AND HOW WE'RE 78 00:02:06,366 --> 00:02:08,933 GONNA MAKE OUR LIVES WORK AGAIN. 79 00:02:08,933 --> 00:02:10,233 >> Announcer: NUCLEAR PLANTS PUT 80 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:11,366 ELECTRICITY ONTO THE GRID AND 81 00:02:11,366 --> 00:02:14,633 HELP POWER MODERN LIFE. 82 00:02:14,633 --> 00:02:16,066 BUT, FOR STATES AROUND THE 83 00:02:16,066 --> 00:02:16,900 COUNTRY INCLUDING PENNSYLVANIA, 84 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:18,033 THERE'S A DILEMMA. 85 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:22,366 DO THEY KEEP THEM AFLOAT IN THE 86 00:02:22,366 --> 00:02:23,133 NAME OF FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE 87 00:02:23,133 --> 00:02:23,733 AND PRESERVING JOBS OR LET THEM 88 00:02:23,733 --> 00:02:24,366 CLOSE? 89 00:02:24,366 --> 00:02:25,266 >> IT'S TIME FOR THE LEGISLATURE 90 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:26,300 TO ACT AND THE TIME TO ACT IS 91 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:27,766 NOW. 92 00:02:27,766 --> 00:02:28,833 >>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR áTHREE 93 00:02:28,833 --> 00:02:30,333 MILE ISLAND: THE NEW NUCLEAR 94 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:33,133 DILEMMAá IS PROVIDED BY THE 95 00:02:33,133 --> 00:02:34,466 CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC 96 00:02:34,466 --> 00:02:36,100 BROADCASTING AND BY VIEWERS LIKE 97 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,133 YOU. 98 00:02:37,133 --> 00:02:43,433 THANK YOU. 99 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:53,266 ♪♪ 100 00:02:53,266 --> 00:02:54,300 [ EXPLOSION ] 101 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:54,900 >>> THE ATOMIC AGE WAS BORN. 102 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,000 >> Announcer: AFTER THE UNITED 103 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,566 STATES USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS 104 00:02:56,566 --> 00:02:59,133 AGAINST JAPAN IN WORLD WAR II, 105 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:00,166 THE GOVERNMENT SOUGHT TO REMAKE 106 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:01,166 THE ATOM'S IMAGE AS A POWERFUL 107 00:03:01,166 --> 00:03:02,166 FORCE THAT COULD BENEFIT 108 00:03:02,166 --> 00:03:03,000 MANKIND. 109 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,466 >> HERE IN FACT IS AN ANSWER TO 110 00:03:05,466 --> 00:03:06,666 A DREAM AS OLD AS MAN HIMSELF. 111 00:03:06,666 --> 00:03:08,566 A GIANT OF LIMITLESS POWER AT 112 00:03:08,566 --> 00:03:12,266 MAN'S COMMAND. 113 00:03:12,266 --> 00:03:14,666 AND WHERE WAS IT SCIENCE FOUND 114 00:03:14,666 --> 00:03:15,666 THAT GIANT? 115 00:03:15,666 --> 00:03:17,466 IN THE ATOM. 116 00:03:17,466 --> 00:03:21,266 >> Announcer: PRESIDENT 117 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:25,633 DWIGHT EISENHOWER PROMOTED A 118 00:03:25,633 --> 00:03:28,600 PROGRAM CALLED ATOMS FOR PEACE. 119 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,600 IN 1958, HE HIGHLIGHTED A NEW 120 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,700 PLANT IN SHIPPINGPORT, 121 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:35,166 PENNSYLVANIA OUTSIDE PITTSBURGH. 122 00:03:35,166 --> 00:03:35,933 >> THIS PLANT HAS A SECURE PLACE 123 00:03:35,933 --> 00:03:36,400 IN AMERICAN HISTORY. 124 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:36,766 IT IS THE FIRST OF THE WORLD'S 125 00:03:36,766 --> 00:03:37,133 LARGE SCALE NUCLEAR POWER 126 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:37,966 STATIONS EXCLUSIVELY DEVOTED TO 127 00:03:37,966 --> 00:03:40,433 PEACEFUL PURPOSES. 128 00:03:40,433 --> 00:03:42,666 >> Announcer: IT WAS TO BE THE 129 00:03:42,666 --> 00:03:44,733 DAWN OF A NEW ATOMIC ERA, A 130 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:45,233 TRANSFORMATIVE POWER THAT WOULD 131 00:03:45,233 --> 00:03:49,000 RESHAPE THE MODERN WORLD. 132 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,866 >> THE TERM ATOMIC AND NUCLEAR 133 00:03:51,866 --> 00:03:54,166 WAS VIEWED IN A MUCH MUSCULAR 134 00:03:54,166 --> 00:03:56,333 WAY POST WORLD WAR II TO 1979. 135 00:03:56,333 --> 00:03:56,633 THE CONNOTATION WAS GOOD. 136 00:03:56,633 --> 00:03:57,133 YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDED SECURITY 137 00:03:57,133 --> 00:03:57,500 FOR US. 138 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:57,800 IT WAS GONNA PROVIDE ENERGY THAT 139 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,400 WAS TOO CHEAP TO METER. 140 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,766 IT WAS THE ANSWER. 141 00:04:00,766 --> 00:04:03,433 >> THE FUTURE SUPPLYING OF 142 00:04:03,433 --> 00:04:03,733 ELECTRIC POWER TO ENTIRE CITIES 143 00:04:03,733 --> 00:04:05,733 IS FAR FROM IMPOSSIBLE. 144 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:09,266 WHILE NUCLEAR POWER IN 145 00:04:09,266 --> 00:04:09,566 LOCOMOTIVES, SUBMARINES, SHIPS, 146 00:04:09,566 --> 00:04:10,733 AND EVEN VERY LARGE AIRPLANES 147 00:04:10,733 --> 00:04:21,433 MAY ALL BUT REVOLUTIONIZE FUTURE 148 00:04:21,433 --> 00:04:26,166 TRANSPORTATION ON LAND, SEA, AND 149 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:30,633 AIR. 150 00:04:30,633 --> 00:04:30,966 >> Announcer: THE DREAM OF THE 151 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:31,300 FUTURE SEEMED TO COME TRUE, AT 152 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:35,866 LEAST FOR A WHILE. 153 00:04:35,866 --> 00:04:41,533 THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY TOOK OFF 154 00:04:41,533 --> 00:04:42,433 WITH SCORES OF NEW POWER PLANTS 155 00:04:42,433 --> 00:04:42,800 BEING BUILT ALL OVER THE UNITED 156 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,533 STATES. 157 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:44,033 >> ALL ARE WITHIN MAN'S POWER, 158 00:04:44,033 --> 00:04:45,200 SUBJECT TO HIS COMMAND. 159 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,600 ON MAN'S WISDOM, ON HIS FIRMNESS 160 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,100 IN THE USE OF THAT POWER DEPENDS 161 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:48,033 NOW THE FUTURE OF HIS CHILDREN 162 00:04:48,033 --> 00:04:51,966 AND HIS CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. 163 00:04:51,966 --> 00:04:53,066 IN THE NEW WORLD OF THE ATOMIC 164 00:04:53,066 --> 00:04:56,566 AGE. 165 00:04:56,566 --> 00:04:58,900 >> Announcer: BUT, EVERYTHING 166 00:04:58,900 --> 00:04:59,900 CHANGED IN MARCH 28, 1979. 167 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:01,066 AROUND 4 AM, A PUMP STOPPED 168 00:05:01,066 --> 00:05:02,533 SENDING WATER TO THE STEAM 169 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:03,800 GENERATORS THAT REMOVED HEAT 170 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,700 FROM THREE MILE ISLAND'S UNIT 171 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:08,033 TWO REACTOR CORE. 172 00:05:08,033 --> 00:05:11,033 EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION AND HUMAN 173 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:14,633 ERROR CREATED A PARTIAL 174 00:05:14,633 --> 00:05:14,966 MELTDOWN. 175 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:15,533 >> I KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT 176 00:05:15,533 --> 00:05:22,866 NUCLEAR POWER OTHER THAN THAT IT 177 00:05:22,866 --> 00:05:24,500 COULD VERY DANGEROUS AND NOTHING 178 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:25,700 TO BE FOOLING AROUND WITH. 179 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:26,066 >> Announcer: IT BECAME GLOBAL 180 00:05:26,066 --> 00:05:26,400 NEWS AND A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO 181 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,233 FOR MANY WHO LIVED NEAR BY. 182 00:05:27,233 --> 00:05:27,666 >> WE WERE GLUED TO THE TV LIKE 183 00:05:27,666 --> 00:05:31,533 EVERYBODY ELSE. 184 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:33,433 AND IT WAS SO CONFUSING BECAUSE 185 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:36,400 FIRST IT WAS A PROBLEM, THERE 186 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,266 WASN'T, THERE WAS NO ACCIDENT, 187 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:38,166 THERE WAS. 188 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:39,733 THERE WAS A HYDROGEN BUBBLE, 189 00:05:39,733 --> 00:05:42,000 THERE WASN'T. 190 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,400 AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, YOU 191 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:42,733 KNOW, THESE PEOPLE REALLY DO NOT 192 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:43,033 KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. 193 00:05:43,033 --> 00:05:43,466 >> Announcer: MET-ED, THE 194 00:05:43,466 --> 00:05:44,300 COMPANY OPERATING THE PLANT AT 195 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,366 THE TIME AND STATE OFFICIALS 196 00:05:46,366 --> 00:05:47,500 STRUGGLED TO EXPLAIN WHAT WAS 197 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:49,633 HAPPENING. 198 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:50,100 >> WHY DID RADIATION -- 199 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:52,066 WHY WAS IT ALLOWED TO ESCAPE 200 00:05:52,066 --> 00:05:54,900 INTO THE ATMOSPHERE? 201 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:55,400 THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT FRIGHTENS 202 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:04,400 THE PUBLIC TO MOST. 203 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,766 AND WHY DO THE PUBLIC BELIEVE 204 00:06:04,766 --> 00:06:05,166 THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD 205 00:06:05,166 --> 00:06:08,600 NOT HAPPEN AGAIN TO POSSIBLE A 206 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:08,800 MORE SERIOUS MAGNITUDE THAT WE 207 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,000 SEE A BREAKDOWN? 208 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,300 >> WELL, RADIATION IS ALLOWED TO 209 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:09,600 BE RELEASED FROM THE REACTOR 210 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:09,933 PLANT IN THE COURSE OF NORMAL 211 00:06:09,933 --> 00:06:10,333 OPERATION. 212 00:06:10,333 --> 00:06:10,900 >> Announcer: GOVERNOR 213 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:11,700 DICK THORNBURGH ORDERED A 214 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:12,966 PARTIAL EVACUATION, DIRECTING 215 00:06:12,966 --> 00:06:14,600 PREGNANT WOMEN AND YOUNG 216 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,200 CHILDREN TO LEAVE THE AREA. 217 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,133 BUT, MANY MORE MADE THEIR OWN 218 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:20,300 DECISION TO LEAVE. 219 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:20,833 SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES SHUT 220 00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:22,966 DOWN. 221 00:06:22,966 --> 00:06:23,866 LOCAL BANKS STARTING RUNNING OUT 222 00:06:23,866 --> 00:06:24,366 OF CASH. 223 00:06:24,366 --> 00:06:26,866 JOYCE CARRODI AND HER FAMILY 224 00:06:26,866 --> 00:06:29,933 HEADED NORTH TO HER MOTHER'S 225 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:31,033 HOME IN PERRY COUNTY. 226 00:06:31,033 --> 00:06:32,133 >> I WAS VERY ANXIOUS, BUT I 227 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:32,500 TRIED VERY HARD TO NOT IMPART 228 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:33,766 THAT ON OUR CHILDREN. 229 00:06:33,766 --> 00:06:34,566 THAT WE WERE GOING TO GRANDMA'S. 230 00:06:34,566 --> 00:06:35,400 WE WERE GOING TO GO FOR LIKE A 231 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,500 LITTLE MINI VACATION. 232 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:38,900 WE WERE GOING TO HAVE FUN AND IT 233 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:40,433 WOULD BE GREAT. 234 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:41,433 >> Announcer: TEN DAYS LATER SHE 235 00:06:41,433 --> 00:06:43,000 WOULD RETURN HOME. 236 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,033 BUT, SHE SAID OFFICIALS WITH THE 237 00:06:44,033 --> 00:06:47,000 NUCLEAR INDUSTRY WERE DISMISSIVE 238 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,800 OF HER QUESTIONS. 239 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,233 >> I WAS TOLD JUST STAY HOME, 240 00:06:49,233 --> 00:06:49,933 BAKE YOUR COOKIES. 241 00:06:49,933 --> 00:06:50,600 WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. 242 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,166 AND I SAID -- 243 00:06:52,166 --> 00:06:53,233 I LITERALLY SAID TO THEM I WAS 244 00:06:53,233 --> 00:06:54,166 HOME BAKING MY COOKIES WHEN YOU 245 00:06:54,166 --> 00:06:55,500 ALL HAD THE PROBLEM AND AFFECTED 246 00:06:55,500 --> 00:07:00,800 MYSELF AND MY FAMILY. 247 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,866 >> Announcer: SHE AND HER 248 00:07:01,866 --> 00:07:02,200 NEIGHBORS CONTINUED TO PRESS FOR 249 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,333 ANSWERS. 250 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:03,866 >> AND WHEN THEY STARTED TELLING 251 00:07:03,866 --> 00:07:04,900 US ABOUT THE RADIATION THAT WE 252 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:05,733 GOT WAS NO MORE THAN A GLASS OF 253 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:08,066 WINE OR A CIGARETTE, THAT 254 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:11,700 INFURIATED ME BECAUSE IN THE 255 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:13,300 STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA YOU'RE NOT 256 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,000 ALLOWED TO GIVE MY CHILDREN WINE 257 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 AND CIGARETTES. 258 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,700 SO, WHY WERE THEY ALLOWED TO 259 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:22,833 GIVE IT? 260 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:23,333 AND THAT DIDN'T RING TRUE TO ME 261 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:23,666 BECAUSE WE LATER FOUND OUT THAT 262 00:07:23,666 --> 00:07:24,133 THE MONITORS THAT MONITOR THE 263 00:07:24,133 --> 00:07:24,633 AMOUNT OF RADIATION WENT 264 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:26,933 OFFLINE. 265 00:07:26,933 --> 00:07:27,766 TO THIS DAY, WE TRULY DON'T 266 00:07:27,766 --> 00:07:30,066 KNOW. 267 00:07:30,066 --> 00:07:32,933 >> Announcer: YEARS OF STUDIES 268 00:07:32,933 --> 00:07:33,433 BY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND 269 00:07:33,433 --> 00:07:34,333 INDEPENDENT RESEARCHERS WERE NOT 270 00:07:34,333 --> 00:07:35,300 ABLE TO DETECT SIGNIFICANT 271 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:35,766 HEALTH EFFECTS FROM THE 272 00:07:35,766 --> 00:07:40,833 RADIATION RELEASES. 273 00:07:40,833 --> 00:07:41,466 WHILE SOME PEOPLE LEFT THE 274 00:07:41,466 --> 00:07:42,633 REGION FOR GOOD, ULTIMATELY 275 00:07:42,633 --> 00:07:43,366 CARRODI CHOSE TO STAY IN HER 276 00:07:43,366 --> 00:07:44,633 HOME. 277 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:46,266 >> I LOVE THE COMMUNITY THAT I'M 278 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:47,000 IN. 279 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,900 I LOVE THAT MY CHILDREN WENT TO 280 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:51,666 THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY WENT TO. 281 00:07:51,666 --> 00:07:52,466 AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 282 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:55,033 THIS PLANT WILL RUN JUST A 283 00:07:55,033 --> 00:07:58,500 LITTLE BIT SAFER THAN ANY OF 284 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,600 THOSE OTHER PLANTS BECAUSE 285 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,000 BASICALLY THE EYES OF THE WORLD 286 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,433 ARE UPON IT. 287 00:08:02,433 --> 00:08:03,133 >> Announcer: FAITH HAD BEEN 288 00:08:03,133 --> 00:08:04,633 SHAKEN IN THE PROMISE OF THE 289 00:08:04,633 --> 00:08:05,300 ATOMIC AGE. 290 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:06,000 BUT NOW FOUR DECADES LATER, 291 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,466 NUCLEAR POWER IS ONCE AGAIN SEEN 292 00:08:06,466 --> 00:08:06,933 AS A SOLUTION, THIS TIME FOR 293 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:07,866 CLIMATE CHANGE. 294 00:08:07,866 --> 00:08:09,333 CLIMATE CHANGE IS ON 295 00:08:09,333 --> 00:08:11,166 TAMMY MURPHY'S MIND. 296 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:19,600 SHE RECENTLY DRESSED UP HER TWO 297 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,333 YOUNG BOYS AS THE LORAX, THE 298 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:21,166 DR. SEUSS STORYBOOK CHARACTER 299 00:08:21,166 --> 00:08:22,900 WHO SPEAKS FOR THE TREES, SO 300 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:23,700 THEY COULD TALK TO LAWMAKERS AT 301 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:28,766 THE STATE CAPITAL. 302 00:08:28,766 --> 00:08:30,233 >> IT'S REALLY GOING TO 303 00:08:30,233 --> 00:08:30,633 ACCELERATE IN THE NEXT DECADE OR 304 00:08:30,633 --> 00:08:31,066 SO AND WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME. 305 00:08:31,066 --> 00:08:36,033 SO, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO LOOK 306 00:08:36,033 --> 00:08:36,933 AND THINK ABOUT GOVERNANCE FOR 307 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:37,766 THE FUTURE. 308 00:08:37,766 --> 00:08:38,700 >> Announcer: LAST YEAR, A STARK 309 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:39,466 UNITED NATIONS REPORT WARNED 310 00:08:39,466 --> 00:08:40,533 THAT THE WORLD FACES CRISIS, 311 00:08:40,533 --> 00:08:42,066 INCLUDING FOOD SHORTAGES, 312 00:08:42,066 --> 00:08:42,633 EXTREME WEATHER, WILD FIRES, AND 313 00:08:42,633 --> 00:08:43,799 A MASS DIE OFF OF CORAL REEFS 314 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,300 UNLESS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS 315 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:47,333 ARE SHARPLY CUT. 316 00:08:47,333 --> 00:08:51,133 THE WORLD HAS PERHAPS LITTLE 317 00:08:51,133 --> 00:08:51,600 MORE THAN A DECADE TO ACT. 318 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,866 BY THEN MURPHY'S BOYS WILL BE IN 319 00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:54,400 HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. 320 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,166 >> I JUST FEEL LIKE IN 12 YEARS 321 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:57,166 IF WE LET THIS ESCAPE US, THIS 322 00:08:57,166 --> 00:08:58,666 OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF IT 323 00:08:58,666 --> 00:08:59,866 NOW, THEN WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE 324 00:08:59,866 --> 00:09:01,166 THEY GONNA DO? 325 00:09:01,166 --> 00:09:02,733 I MEAN, IT SCARES ME. 326 00:09:02,733 --> 00:09:03,500 AND YOU KNOW, THEM HAVING KIDS, 327 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:04,566 AND FAMILIES, AND A NORMAL LIFE 328 00:09:04,566 --> 00:09:06,500 AND MY PARENTS LIVING ON THE 329 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:08,066 COAST IN NEW JERSEY; IT'S 330 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:09,666 DANGEROUS. 331 00:09:09,666 --> 00:09:10,566 >> Announcer: STILL, SHE DOESN'T 332 00:09:10,566 --> 00:09:16,466 THINK NUCLEAR ENERGY IS THE 333 00:09:16,466 --> 00:09:16,700 ANSWER. 334 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:17,233 >> IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD SOLUTION 335 00:09:17,233 --> 00:09:17,733 ON THE SURFACE, IT'S JUST WHEN 336 00:09:17,733 --> 00:09:18,400 YOU DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, 337 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,000 THERE ARE SECURITY ISSUES AND 338 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,566 THEN THERE'S ALSO THE WASTE 339 00:09:19,566 --> 00:09:20,766 ISSUE. 340 00:09:20,766 --> 00:09:21,566 AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE OTHER 341 00:09:21,566 --> 00:09:23,966 OPTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE EITHER. 342 00:09:23,966 --> 00:09:25,633 ♪♪ 343 00:09:25,633 --> 00:09:28,100 >> THE QUESTION OF áHOW WE GET 344 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:28,833 TO A RENEWABLE ENERGY SYSTEMá IS 345 00:09:28,833 --> 00:09:30,133 MAYBE A S CONTENTIOUS AS 346 00:09:30,133 --> 00:09:31,233 ANYTHING YOU CAN ASK RIGHT NOW. 347 00:09:31,233 --> 00:09:33,400 >> CLIMATE EXPERT, 348 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,200 RICHARD ALLEY, THINKS ABOUT WHAT 349 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,966 GLOBAL WARMING WILL MEAN FOR THE 350 00:09:37,966 --> 00:09:39,866 YOUNG STUDENTS HE TEACHES AS A 351 00:09:39,866 --> 00:09:41,633 PROFESSOR AT PENN STATE 352 00:09:41,633 --> 00:09:42,700 UNIVERSITY. 353 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:43,066 >> IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE ENERGY 354 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:43,433 SYSTEM, IF WE BURN A LOT OF 355 00:09:43,433 --> 00:09:44,033 FOSSIL FUEL RAPIDLY, BY THE TIME 356 00:09:44,033 --> 00:09:45,766 OUR STUDENTS TODAY ARE GETTING 357 00:09:45,766 --> 00:09:46,966 OLD, WE MIGHT START MAKING PARTS 358 00:09:46,966 --> 00:09:48,166 OF THE WORLD FATAL TO GO OUTSIDE 359 00:09:48,166 --> 00:09:50,733 AT TIMES. 360 00:09:50,733 --> 00:09:54,466 THE UNITED NATIONS REPORT 361 00:09:54,466 --> 00:09:57,133 CALLED-ON GOVERNMENTS TO TRY TO 362 00:09:57,133 --> 00:10:01,433 KEEP THE WARMING BELOW 363 00:10:01,433 --> 00:10:01,733 1.5 DEGREES CELSIUS. 364 00:10:01,733 --> 00:10:02,033 A SEEMINGLY SMALL NUMBER WITH 365 00:10:02,033 --> 00:10:15,200 MASSIVE RAMIFICATIONS. 366 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,433 >> THE WORLD IS A BIT MORE 367 00:10:15,433 --> 00:10:15,700 SENSITIVE TO CLIMATE THAN WE 368 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:16,933 LIKE TO THINK. 369 00:10:16,933 --> 00:10:18,000 >> WHEN WE HAD ABOUT FOUR OR 370 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,733 FIVE DEGREES CELSIUS COOLER THAN 371 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:19,933 TODAY, WE WERE IN AN ICE AGE, 372 00:10:19,933 --> 00:10:24,266 AND BOSTON AND CHICAGO WERE 373 00:10:24,266 --> 00:10:26,966 UNDER ICE. 374 00:10:26,966 --> 00:10:28,100 AND CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA WAS THE 375 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:30,566 áFROZEN TUNDRA,á A REAL FROZEN 376 00:10:30,566 --> 00:10:32,833 TUNDRA OF PERMAFROST AND -- AND 377 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,733 STUFF. 378 00:10:34,733 --> 00:10:36,200 AND SO, FOUR OR FIVE DEGREES 379 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,533 CELSIUS CHANGED GLOBALLY 380 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:38,366 AVERAGED WAS ENOUGH TO GO FROM 381 00:10:38,366 --> 00:10:40,000 THE ICE AGE TO TODAY. 382 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,100 IT RAISED SEA LEVEL ABOUT 383 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:43,800 400 FEET. 384 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,333 IF YOU PUT THIS IN UNITS OF ICE 385 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:46,766 AGE CHANGES, WE'RE GONNA BE 386 00:10:46,766 --> 00:10:48,000 DOING CLOSE, NOT QUITE, BUT 387 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,566 ALMOST HALF AN ICE AGE GOING 388 00:10:51,566 --> 00:10:53,233 FORWARD TO CELSIUS. 389 00:10:53,233 --> 00:10:56,400 AND IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING BY 390 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,133 THE END OF THE CENTURY, WE MIGHT 391 00:10:57,133 --> 00:10:57,933 BE MOST OF AN ICE AGE. 392 00:10:57,933 --> 00:10:58,366 THAT WILL BE A HUGE CHANGE FOR 393 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:00,133 THE WORLD. 394 00:11:00,133 --> 00:11:01,133 AND IT'S NOT THE SAME CHANGES 395 00:11:01,133 --> 00:11:04,766 THAT GOT US HERE FROM THE ICE 396 00:11:04,766 --> 00:11:09,433 AGE, BUT SCALED LIKE THAT. 397 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:13,733 SOMETHING REALLY BIG, SOMETHING 398 00:11:13,733 --> 00:11:15,100 EVERYONE WOULD KNOW. 399 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:17,733 >> DESPITE GLOBAL AGREEMENTS 400 00:11:17,733 --> 00:11:19,033 LIKE THE 2015 PARIS CLIMATE 401 00:11:19,033 --> 00:11:23,900 ACCORD, SCIENTISTS WARN THAT 402 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:24,433 GOVERNMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN MOVING 403 00:11:24,433 --> 00:11:25,600 QUICKLY ENOUGH. 404 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,400 NUCLEAR PLANTS ARE THE LARGEST 405 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,466 SOURCE OF CARBON-FREE 406 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:28,866 ELECTRICITY IN THE U.S. POWER 407 00:11:28,866 --> 00:11:30,033 SECTOR, FAR OUTPACING RENEWABLE 408 00:11:30,033 --> 00:11:32,700 SOURCES. 409 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:33,766 ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NEARLY A 410 00:11:33,766 --> 00:11:35,533 THIRD OF EXISTING NUCLEAR POWER 411 00:11:35,533 --> 00:11:36,400 PLANTS ARE EITHER UNPROFITABLE 412 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,900 OR SCHEDULED TO CLOSE. 413 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:39,433 WITHOUT NEW POLICIES, NATURAL 414 00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:40,966 GAS, WHICH IS CLEANER THAN COAL 415 00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:41,633 BUT WORSE THAN NUCLEAR FROM A 416 00:11:41,633 --> 00:11:44,300 CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE, IS LARGELY 417 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:47,533 EXPECTED TO FILL IN THE VOID. 418 00:11:47,533 --> 00:11:48,300 >> VIRTUALLY, ANYTIME THE 419 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:49,033 SUBJECT OF NUCLEAR COMES UP IN A 420 00:11:49,033 --> 00:11:49,866 GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND 421 00:11:49,866 --> 00:11:51,466 THE PROBLEM AND ARE LOOKING FOR 422 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:52,333 SOLUTIONS, THEY END UP IN AN 423 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:59,233 ARGUMENT. 424 00:11:59,233 --> 00:11:59,600 AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY 425 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,600 ARE GOOD ARGUMENTS IN MANY 426 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,600 DIFFERENT WAYS. 427 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,800 AND IT IS REALLY TRUE THAT 428 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,533 NUCLEAR WORKS. 429 00:12:06,533 --> 00:12:08,133 IT PROVIDES ENERGY, WE CAN RELY 430 00:12:08,133 --> 00:12:08,933 ON IT, IT'S OUT THERE. 431 00:12:08,933 --> 00:12:10,000 IT IS REALLY TRUE THAT THE WORST 432 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 THING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN 433 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,966 WITH A SOLAR CELL IS IT SORT OF 434 00:12:11,966 --> 00:12:17,900 QUITS WORKING. 435 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:18,466 AND THE WORST THING THAT COULD 436 00:12:18,466 --> 00:12:18,933 POSSIBLY HAPPEN WITH A WIND 437 00:12:18,933 --> 00:12:19,666 TURBINE IS IT FALLS ON YOUR 438 00:12:19,666 --> 00:12:21,400 HEAD. 439 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,466 AND THE WORST THING THAT COULD 440 00:12:22,466 --> 00:12:23,700 POSSIBLY HAPPEN WITH A NUCLEAR 441 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:24,900 PLANT IS BIGGER. 442 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:30,033 AND SO, THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF 443 00:12:30,033 --> 00:12:31,000 TRUST IN YOUR NEIGHBOR THAT GOES 444 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,900 WITH NUCLEAR. 445 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:35,566 >> BUT TRUST HAS BEEN TESTED 446 00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:37,566 REPEATEDLY, STARTING WITH THE 447 00:12:37,566 --> 00:12:38,666 ACCIDENT OF THREE MILE ISLAND 448 00:12:38,666 --> 00:12:41,700 FOLLOWED BY THE MELTDOWNS OF 449 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:43,400 CHERNOBYL AND FUKUSHIMA. 450 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,600 LONGTIME ANTI-NUCLEAR ACTIVIST 451 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,766 ERIC EPSTEIN SEES THE RENEWED 452 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:48,466 ATTENTION ON NUCLEAR POWER AS 453 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:50,900 JUST THE LATEST ARGUMENT FOR A 454 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,600 FAILED TECHNOLOGY. 455 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,933 >> YOU CAN HAVE ONE YEAR, TEN 456 00:12:53,933 --> 00:12:55,433 YEARS, 20 YEARS OF GOOD 457 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:57,700 OPERATION IN A NUCLEAR POWER 458 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:58,666 PLANT -- THAT GETS WIPED OUT IN 459 00:12:58,666 --> 00:12:59,366 ONE WEEKEND. 460 00:12:59,366 --> 00:13:05,133 IS IT WORTH THE RISK REWARD? 461 00:13:05,133 --> 00:13:05,466 ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NUCLEAR 462 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:06,000 POWER'S PLAYING WITH TAXPAYER 463 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,533 DOLLARS. 464 00:13:06,533 --> 00:13:16,533 IF THEY'RE SO CONFIDENT IN THE 465 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:16,866 TECHNOLOGY, FIND THE PRIVATE 466 00:13:16,866 --> 00:13:19,100 EQUITY. 467 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:19,366 THIS IS AMERICA, THIS IS 468 00:13:19,366 --> 00:13:19,933 CAPITALISM. 469 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:20,600 DO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, IS 470 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:20,933 COMPETE. 471 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:21,366 >> YET, AS A YOUNG MAN, HE SAYS 472 00:13:21,366 --> 00:13:22,100 HE BELIEVED IN ITS PROMISE. 473 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:22,566 >> I THOUGHT WE WERE BLESSED 474 00:13:22,566 --> 00:13:22,966 WHEN THREE MILE ISLAND CAME 475 00:13:22,966 --> 00:13:23,366 HERE. 476 00:13:23,366 --> 00:13:24,066 MY DAD WOULD DRIVE ME DOWN TO 477 00:13:24,066 --> 00:13:24,733 THE PLANT AND YOU'D LOOK AT 478 00:13:24,733 --> 00:13:26,500 THOSE NICE CLOUDS FLOATING OUT, 479 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:27,466 AND HE WOULD SAY, áHEY.á 480 00:13:27,466 --> 00:13:28,833 YOU KNOW, HE BOUGHT THE MYTH. 481 00:13:28,833 --> 00:13:30,233 IT'S GONNA BE TOO CHEAP TO 482 00:13:30,233 --> 00:13:31,066 METER. 483 00:13:31,066 --> 00:13:33,900 >> FOUR DECADES AFTER THE THREE 484 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:34,333 MILE ISLAND ACCIDENT, HE 485 00:13:34,333 --> 00:13:36,733 BELIEVES THE PUBLIC HAS ONCE 486 00:13:36,733 --> 00:13:38,666 AGAIN BEEN LULLED INTO THE 487 00:13:38,666 --> 00:13:38,933 NOTION THAT NUCLEAR ENERGY IS 488 00:13:38,933 --> 00:13:39,366 THE SOLUTION TO SOCIETY'S ILLS. 489 00:13:39,366 --> 00:13:40,800 >> FOR ME, THE MOST 490 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,366 DISHEARTENING THING IS WE'RE 491 00:13:43,366 --> 00:13:44,133 ALMOST WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO 492 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:44,600 THE TMI ACCIDENT WHERE THE 493 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,233 BASELINE OF KNOWLEDGE IS VERY 494 00:13:46,233 --> 00:13:47,466 LOW. 495 00:13:47,466 --> 00:13:51,100 WE'RE NOT HAVING A DISCUSSION 496 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:52,166 AND THE DISCUSSION WE ARE HAVING 497 00:13:52,166 --> 00:14:01,933 IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE NUCLEAR 498 00:14:01,933 --> 00:14:02,433 INDUSTRY. 499 00:14:02,433 --> 00:14:03,600 >> EPSTEIN THINKS THE MONEY 500 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,766 GOING TO PROPPING UP NUCLEAR 501 00:14:04,766 --> 00:14:06,566 POWER DIVERTS IT FROM BETTER 502 00:14:06,566 --> 00:14:08,666 CLIMATE SOLUTIONS LIKE WIND, 503 00:14:08,666 --> 00:14:09,000 SOLAR, AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 504 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,733 >> I THINK A LOT OF 505 00:14:12,733 --> 00:14:13,500 ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE MAKING 506 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:13,733 FAUSTIAN BARGAINS AND SIGNING UP 507 00:14:13,733 --> 00:14:14,366 TO BAIL OUT NUCLEAR WITHOUT 508 00:14:14,366 --> 00:14:14,833 UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S REALLY 509 00:14:14,833 --> 00:14:15,433 GONNA DO LITTLE-TO-NOTHING TO 510 00:14:15,433 --> 00:14:15,833 COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE. 511 00:14:15,833 --> 00:14:16,300 THE TIME IT TAKES YOU TO GET A 512 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:17,100 NEW NUCLEAR POWER PLANT UP AND 513 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:17,833 RUNNING, PRESUMING YOU HAVE THE 514 00:14:17,833 --> 00:14:20,466 RESOURCES IS 10-15 YEARS. 515 00:14:20,466 --> 00:14:20,900 WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME. 516 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:21,433 WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE 517 00:14:21,433 --> 00:14:22,433 CHANGE NOW. 518 00:14:22,433 --> 00:14:23,166 >> NUCLEAR WASTE IS ANOTHER 519 00:14:23,166 --> 00:14:27,000 COMPLICATING FACTOR. 520 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,700 THE UNITED STATES STILL HAS NO 521 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:33,333 REAL PLAN ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH 522 00:14:33,333 --> 00:14:39,033 IT, SO IT'S BEING STORED AT EACH 523 00:14:39,033 --> 00:14:40,033 PLANT IN PLACES LIKE THESE SPENT 524 00:14:40,033 --> 00:14:40,633 FUEL POOLS, AND THE WASTE JUST 525 00:14:40,633 --> 00:14:41,066 KEEPS PILING UP AT NUCLEAR 526 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:43,266 PLANTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 527 00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:46,900 >> THE INDUSTRY DOES TALK ABOUT 528 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:47,466 ITSELF AS CLEAN, AND THEY ARE 529 00:14:47,466 --> 00:14:49,166 CLEAN FROM AN AIR QUALITY 530 00:14:49,166 --> 00:14:58,633 STANDPOINT, BUT WE AS A COUNTRY, 531 00:14:58,633 --> 00:14:59,033 AS A NATION, HAVE NOT FIGURED 532 00:14:59,033 --> 00:15:04,333 OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH RADIOACTIVE 533 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:11,066 WASTE. 534 00:15:11,066 --> 00:15:11,566 PENNSYLVANIA HAS MORE NUCLEAR 535 00:15:11,566 --> 00:15:11,933 WASTE STORED WITHIN ITS BORDERS 536 00:15:11,933 --> 00:15:12,300 THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE 537 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:12,666 NATION EXCEPT ILLINOIS. 538 00:15:12,666 --> 00:15:13,033 >> IF NUCLEAR IS GREEN AND IT'S 539 00:15:13,033 --> 00:15:15,100 CLEAN, IT SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM 540 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:15,366 FINDING A WASTE SITE. 541 00:15:15,366 --> 00:15:15,633 IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT SCARES 542 00:15:15,633 --> 00:15:15,900 THE DEATH OUT OF EVERYBODY, AND 543 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:16,233 IT SHOULD. 544 00:15:16,233 --> 00:15:18,866 >> I SAY THE WASTE ISSUE IS A 545 00:15:18,866 --> 00:15:23,433 LITTLE BIT OF A RED HERRING. 546 00:15:23,433 --> 00:15:26,466 I MEAN, THE FACTS ARE THAT THE 547 00:15:26,466 --> 00:15:26,833 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED 548 00:15:26,833 --> 00:15:27,600 TO BE TAKING THE WASTE. 549 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:27,866 THAT WAS THE ARRANGEMENT MADE, 550 00:15:27,866 --> 00:15:28,200 YOU KNOW, 30-40 YEARS AGO, AND 551 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:28,533 EVERY DAY, THE FEDERAL 552 00:15:28,533 --> 00:15:29,000 GOVERNMENT'S IN VIOLATION OF A 553 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,466 COURT DECISION ON THAT. 554 00:15:29,466 --> 00:15:29,900 >> AS PENNSYLVANIA TALKS ABOUT 555 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:30,466 THE FATE OF ITS NUCLEAR POWER 556 00:15:30,466 --> 00:15:31,533 INDUSTRY, WE SHOULD ALSO BE 557 00:15:31,533 --> 00:15:33,400 TALKING ABOUT THE FATE OF THE 558 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,700 WASTE. 559 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:37,033 AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE 560 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:38,000 COMMUNITIES ARE NOT BEING 561 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,500 COMPENSATED FOR THE RISK OF 562 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,200 KEEPING THIS WASTE IN THEIR 563 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,100 COMMUNITIES INDEFINITELY. 564 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:44,900 >> IT'S SAD, TO ME, TO THINK 565 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:45,733 THAT, 40 YEARS LATER, WE'RE NO 566 00:15:45,733 --> 00:15:46,700 CLOSER TO SOLVING THE NUCLEAR 567 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:49,000 ISSUE. 568 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,200 AND WHEN I SAY áSOLVING THE 569 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,200 NUCLEAR ISSUE,á NO MATTER HOW 570 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:52,633 YOU FEEL ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER, 571 00:15:52,633 --> 00:15:53,433 PRO OR CON, NOBODY HAS TRULY 572 00:15:53,433 --> 00:15:56,533 DEALT WITH THE WASTE. 573 00:15:56,533 --> 00:15:57,366 >> BUT SOLVING THE WASTE ISSUE 574 00:15:57,366 --> 00:16:00,966 HAS TAKEN A BACKSEAT TO THE 575 00:16:00,966 --> 00:16:01,666 DEBATE OVER WHETHER THE PLANTS 576 00:16:01,666 --> 00:16:03,500 CAN OR SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO 577 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:05,633 SURVIVE ECONOMICALLY. 578 00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:10,200 NUCLEAR INDUSTRY ADVOCATES WANT 579 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:10,900 PENNSYLVANIA TO LOOK TO THE WAYS 580 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:11,233 OTHER STATES HAVE RECENTLY MOVED 581 00:16:11,233 --> 00:16:12,000 TO PROP UP THEIR OWN 582 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,466 UNPROFITABLE PLANTS. 583 00:16:16,466 --> 00:16:17,233 >> I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT 584 00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:17,866 NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY IS SAFE. 585 00:16:17,866 --> 00:16:18,500 THE TREMENDOUS CONTRIBUTION IT 586 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,033 MAKES TO COMBATTING CLIMATE 587 00:16:19,033 --> 00:16:20,833 CHANGE, BECAUSE IT ADMITS NO 588 00:16:20,833 --> 00:16:23,900 CARBON. 589 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:24,766 THE TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC ROLE 590 00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:25,566 THAT IT PLAYS IN THE STATE AND 591 00:16:25,566 --> 00:16:26,966 IN THE COMMUNITY. 592 00:16:26,966 --> 00:16:27,500 >> IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, STATES 593 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:27,900 INCLUDING NEW YORK, ILLINOIS, 594 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:28,400 NEW JERSEY, AND CONNECTICUT HAVE 595 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:28,666 GIVEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO 596 00:16:28,666 --> 00:16:29,000 PROP UP AILING NUCLEAR POWER 597 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,566 PLANTS BY RECOGNIZING THEM AS A 598 00:16:29,566 --> 00:16:32,833 SOURCE OF CARBON-FREE EMISSIONS. 599 00:16:32,833 --> 00:16:33,733 >> CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HUGE 600 00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:38,733 ISSUE. 601 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:39,033 IT IS A AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT 602 00:16:39,033 --> 00:16:39,433 THAT I THINK THIS WHOLE COUNRTY 603 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:39,866 IS STARTING TO PAY MORE 604 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:47,900 ATTENTION TO. 605 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:48,300 IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE HOPE 606 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:49,200 TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, THEN WE 607 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,300 HAVE TO PRESERVE ALL THE NATIONS 608 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:54,533 NUCLEAR STATIONS. 609 00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:55,500 IF NUCLEAR STATIONS GO AWAY, 610 00:16:55,500 --> 00:17:01,200 THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REPLACED BY 611 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,566 WIND AND SOLAR, THEY'RE GONNA BE 612 00:17:02,566 --> 00:17:05,233 REPLACED BY COAL OR NATURAL GAS, 613 00:17:05,233 --> 00:17:05,966 WHICH IN-TURN EMIT CARBON AND 614 00:17:05,966 --> 00:17:11,200 WE'LL BE GOING BACKWARDS INSTEAD 615 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,966 OF FORWARDS. 616 00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:16,733 >> A BILL RECENTLY INTRODUCED IN 617 00:17:16,733 --> 00:17:19,099 HARRISBURG AIMS TO AMEND A 618 00:17:19,099 --> 00:17:21,533 2004 LAW THAT REQUIRES ELECTRIC 619 00:17:21,533 --> 00:17:26,866 COMPANIES TO PURCHASE PART OF 620 00:17:26,866 --> 00:17:27,433 THEIR POWER FROM CERTAIN CLEAN 621 00:17:27,433 --> 00:17:28,000 AND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES. 622 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,533 RIGHT NOW, THAT LIST DOESN'T 623 00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:30,433 INCLUDE NUCLEAR ENERGY. 624 00:17:30,433 --> 00:17:30,666 >> THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW. 625 00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:31,033 >> STATE SENATOR RYAN AUMENT 626 00:17:31,033 --> 00:17:32,533 WANTS TO CHANGE THAT. 627 00:17:32,533 --> 00:17:33,433 >> IF THE PUBLIC POLICY GOAL WAS 628 00:17:33,433 --> 00:17:34,266 TO -- WAS TO ALLOW FOR 629 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:34,900 ALTERNATIVE ENERGIES AND REDUCE 630 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:35,966 CARBON EMISSIONS, I THINK IT WAS 631 00:17:35,966 --> 00:17:36,566 REALLY, FRANKLY AN OVERSIGHT AT 632 00:17:36,566 --> 00:17:37,466 THAT TIME THAT NUCLEAR ENERGY 633 00:17:37,466 --> 00:17:38,333 WAS NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE OF THE 634 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:39,166 IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL 635 00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:40,500 CARBON-FREE BENEFITS. 636 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:47,800 AND SO WE SEE THIS -- THE 637 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,966 PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE OFFERED 638 00:17:51,966 --> 00:17:52,366 REALLY IS A CORRECTION. 639 00:17:52,366 --> 00:17:54,566 AUMENT SAYS HE FIRST BEGAN 640 00:17:54,566 --> 00:17:55,433 LEARNING ABOUT THE ISSUE MORE 641 00:17:55,433 --> 00:17:57,933 THAN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN 642 00:17:57,933 --> 00:17:59,366 CONSTITUENTS WHO WORKED AT THREE 643 00:17:59,366 --> 00:17:59,666 MILE ISLAND STARTED CALLING HIS 644 00:17:59,666 --> 00:18:05,800 OFFICE, WORRIED ABOUT THE 645 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,100 PLANT'S FUTURE. 646 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:10,800 >> IT STARTED FOR ME AS AN 647 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,100 ECONOMIC ISSUE, BUT OVER TIME 648 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:12,266 THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS AND 649 00:18:12,266 --> 00:18:12,800 THE IMPORTANCE OF COMBATTING 650 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,133 CLIMATE CHANGE IS WHAT RISEN TO 651 00:18:13,133 --> 00:18:16,100 THE TOP. 652 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:16,533 >> THE BILL IS THE CULMINATION 653 00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:17,700 OF TWO YEARS OF INTENSE LOBBYING 654 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:18,433 BY EXCELON. 655 00:18:18,433 --> 00:18:19,433 WHICH OWNS THREE MILE ISLAND'S 656 00:18:19,433 --> 00:18:20,466 UNIT ONE REACTOR, AS WELL AS TWO 657 00:18:20,466 --> 00:18:22,433 OTHER PLANTS IN THE STATE. 658 00:18:22,433 --> 00:18:23,300 >> EXCELON HAS BOUGHT JUST ABOUT 659 00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:24,433 EVERY LOBBYIST EVERY GOVERNMENT 660 00:18:24,433 --> 00:18:24,733 RELATIONS OFFICE, AND I MEAN 661 00:18:24,733 --> 00:18:26,700 IT'S A FULL SCALE AFFRONT. 662 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:32,666 I MEAN THIS ABOUT NUCLEAR 663 00:18:32,666 --> 00:18:33,133 ECONOMIC SURVIVAL, THEY CAN NOT 664 00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:33,666 OPERATE PROFITABLY IN THE 665 00:18:33,666 --> 00:18:34,233 MARKET, SO THEY'RE DESPERATELY 666 00:18:34,233 --> 00:18:35,433 SEARCHING FOR A WAY OUT. 667 00:18:35,433 --> 00:18:36,266 >> STATE LOBBYING DISCLOSURE 668 00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:39,666 REPORTS SHOW EXCELON HAS SPENT 669 00:18:39,666 --> 00:18:40,000 OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN 670 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,433 HARRISBURG SINCE 2017. 671 00:18:42,433 --> 00:18:42,766 HOWEVER THE COMPANY IS FACING 672 00:18:42,766 --> 00:18:43,033 OPPOSITION FROM SOME MAJOR 673 00:18:43,033 --> 00:18:48,633 PLAYERS. 674 00:18:48,633 --> 00:18:49,033 LIKE THE AARP, WHICH ARGUES A 675 00:18:49,033 --> 00:18:49,633 BAILOUT WOULD HURT RATEPAYERS. 676 00:18:49,633 --> 00:18:49,933 >> WE HEAR FROM AARP MEMBERS AND 677 00:18:49,933 --> 00:18:54,466 THEIR FAMILIES ALL THE TIME, YOU 678 00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:54,833 KNOW THEY HAVE CONCERNS MEDICAL 679 00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:58,066 CARE COSTS. 680 00:18:58,066 --> 00:18:58,300 THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT 681 00:18:58,300 --> 00:18:58,600 PROPERTY TAXES. 682 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,366 THEY DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT 683 00:19:00,366 --> 00:19:01,333 THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS AND THEIR 684 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:02,666 GAS BILLS AND EVERY OTHER BILL 685 00:19:02,666 --> 00:19:04,433 THAT THEY'RE PAYING, GOING UP 686 00:19:04,433 --> 00:19:04,733 AND UP -- AND NOT GETTING VERY 687 00:19:04,733 --> 00:19:07,366 MUCH IN RETURN. 688 00:19:07,366 --> 00:19:07,800 PENNSYLVANIA CITIZENS CAN'T BARE 689 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,533 ANOTHER TAX, AND THAT'S 690 00:19:10,533 --> 00:19:10,933 ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS GOING 691 00:19:10,933 --> 00:19:14,200 TO TURN OUT TO, FOR THE RATE 692 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,666 PAYERS. 693 00:19:15,666 --> 00:19:17,766 WE DO ADVOCATE FOR RELIABLE 694 00:19:17,766 --> 00:19:19,066 ELECTRICITY, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE 695 00:19:19,066 --> 00:19:19,766 FAIR. 696 00:19:19,766 --> 00:19:20,500 >> AND THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY 697 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:21,033 WHICH HAS STEADILY BEEN BUILDING 698 00:19:21,033 --> 00:19:21,600 NEW POWER PLANTS AND THROWING 699 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,833 ITS SHARE OF ELECTRIC 700 00:19:22,833 --> 00:19:24,166 GENERATION, HAS ALSO BEEN 701 00:19:24,166 --> 00:19:24,500 FLEXING ITS POLITICAL MIGHT AND 702 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:24,833 LOBBYING AGAINST A NUCLEAR BAIL 703 00:19:24,833 --> 00:19:27,633 OUT. 704 00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:28,066 A RELATIVELY NEW GROUP CALLED 705 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:28,800 CITIZENS AGAINST NUCLEAR 706 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,600 BAILOUTS IS FUNDED BY NATURAL 707 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,266 GAS INTERESTS, INCLUDING THE 708 00:19:30,266 --> 00:19:36,733 AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE. 709 00:19:36,733 --> 00:19:37,133 AUMENT SAYS HE HAS BEEN FEELING 710 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:41,733 THE PRESSURE. 711 00:19:41,733 --> 00:19:46,833 >> IT'S INTENSE AND I AM 712 00:19:46,833 --> 00:19:47,266 ATTEMPTING TO SORT OF STAY CLEAR 713 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:50,033 OF THE PRESSURE. 714 00:19:50,033 --> 00:19:50,500 I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF 715 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:51,033 PENNSYLVANIA, I DON'T REPRESENT 716 00:19:51,033 --> 00:20:09,100 EXCELON, I DON'T REPRESENT THE 717 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:09,466 OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. 718 00:20:09,466 --> 00:20:10,033 I REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF THE 719 00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:10,533 36 SENATORIAL DISTRICT. 720 00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:10,966 I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE 721 00:20:10,966 --> 00:20:11,533 RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS 722 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:12,766 COMMONWEALTH. 723 00:20:12,766 --> 00:20:13,666 IT HAS BEEN CHALLENING IN THIS 724 00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:14,200 BUILDING, WITHOUT A DOUBT AROUND 725 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,833 THIS ISSUE. 726 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:17,133 >> HE SAYS THE DISCUSSION HAS 727 00:20:17,133 --> 00:20:19,300 MADE EVEN HARDER BY THE NEGATIVE 728 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:19,600 PERCEPTION MANY PEOPLE HAVE 729 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,033 AROUND THREE MILE ISLAND. 730 00:20:20,033 --> 00:20:20,400 >> WHEN YOU MENTION THREE MILE 731 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:20,866 ISLAND, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 732 00:20:20,866 --> 00:20:21,566 NUCLEAR ENERGY THEIR MIND 733 00:20:21,566 --> 00:20:22,166 IMMEDIATELY FLASHES BACK TO THE 734 00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:22,700 EVENTS OF SPRING OF 1979 AND 735 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:23,933 WITHOUT A DOUBT, THAT'S BEEN A 736 00:20:23,933 --> 00:20:26,366 REAL HURDLE TO OVERCOME IN TERMS 737 00:20:26,366 --> 00:20:26,666 OF BEING ABLE TO EDUCATE FOLKS 738 00:20:26,666 --> 00:20:27,100 ON THE BENEFITS OF THE NUCLEAR 739 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,133 ENERGY INDUSTRY. 740 00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:30,233 AND FRANKLY A TREMENDOUS RECORD 741 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:31,766 OF SAFETY THAT THE INDUSTRY HAS 742 00:20:31,766 --> 00:20:32,433 HAD OVER ITS EXISTENCE IN THE 743 00:20:32,433 --> 00:20:33,733 UNITED STATES. 744 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:34,566 >> THE ONGOING DEBATE OVER 745 00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:35,600 NUCLEAR ENERGY IS PERSONAL FOR 746 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,833 THE DESANTIS FAMILY. 747 00:20:37,833 --> 00:20:38,433 >> ME AND MY WIFE CHRISTINE MET 748 00:20:38,433 --> 00:20:40,866 AT TMI. 749 00:20:40,866 --> 00:20:46,366 WE WENT TO TRAINING TOGETHER AND 750 00:20:46,366 --> 00:20:46,800 STARTED DATING SHORTLY AFTER 751 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,400 THAT, AND GOT MARRIED LATER ON. 752 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:47,800 I THINK LIKE FIVE YEARS AFTER WE 753 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,366 BOTH STARTED WORKING THERE AND 754 00:20:48,366 --> 00:20:54,633 NOW WE HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS. 755 00:20:54,633 --> 00:20:58,666 OLIVIA, WHO IS THREE YEARS OLD, 756 00:20:58,666 --> 00:21:02,433 AND SOPHIA WHO IS ONE YEARS OLD. 757 00:21:02,433 --> 00:21:04,300 >> IF EXCELON GOES THROUGH WITH 758 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:05,733 ITS PLAN TO CLOSE THE PLANT THIS 759 00:21:05,733 --> 00:21:08,600 FALL THE YOUNG FAMILY MAY HAVE 760 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,633 TO MOVE FROM THEIR HOME NEAR 761 00:21:09,633 --> 00:21:11,800 HARRISBURG TO FIND NEW JOBS IN 762 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,033 THE INDUSTRY. 763 00:21:14,033 --> 00:21:14,300 >> SINCE THERE IS TWO OF US, I 764 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:15,133 FEEL LIKE THAT MAKES IT MORE 765 00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:16,433 COMPLICATEED. 766 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:17,533 BECAUSE WE BOTH HAVE TO FIND 767 00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:18,533 JOBS. 768 00:21:18,533 --> 00:21:20,833 WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE 769 00:21:20,833 --> 00:21:21,700 AT THE SAME PLANT, BUT WE NEED 770 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:26,733 TO BE ABLE TO BE A TWO SEPARATE 771 00:21:26,733 --> 00:21:27,600 LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S A 772 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,266 CENTRAL LOCATION WE CAN LIVE. 773 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:29,133 BUT THEN I START TO THINK ABOUT 774 00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:33,633 MOVING AND WHERE I AM GOING TO 775 00:21:33,633 --> 00:21:33,933 PUT MY KIDS IN DAYCARE. 776 00:21:33,933 --> 00:21:34,300 HOW AM I GOING TO MAKE THE 777 00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:34,833 NUCLEAR LIFE WORK. 778 00:21:34,833 --> 00:21:35,266 I TRY NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT TOO 779 00:21:35,266 --> 00:21:35,933 MUCH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY 780 00:21:35,933 --> 00:21:38,766 UNKNOWNS. 781 00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:39,033 IT'S HARD TO PLAN BASED ON 782 00:21:39,033 --> 00:21:39,333 UNKNOWNS. 783 00:21:39,333 --> 00:21:51,666 BUT I DO KNOW IN THE NEAR FUTURE 784 00:21:51,666 --> 00:21:51,933 WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH 785 00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:52,600 DECISIONS AND FIGURE OUR WHERE 786 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,333 WE'RE GOING TO MOVE AND HOW 787 00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:54,366 WE'LL MAKE OUR LIVES WORK AGAIN. 788 00:21:54,366 --> 00:22:01,833 >> YOU KNOW YOU OBVIOUSLY THINK 789 00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:02,100 A LOT MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE 790 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:02,666 AFTER YOU HAVE KIDS. 791 00:22:02,666 --> 00:22:03,166 THE CLEAN ENERGY ASPECT IS 792 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:03,733 REALLY WHAT HITS HOME TO ME. 793 00:22:03,733 --> 00:22:04,100 I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY 794 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:04,433 TO FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TAKE 795 00:22:04,433 --> 00:22:04,766 CARE OF OUR PLANET. 796 00:22:04,766 --> 00:22:05,000 AND I THINK GLOBAL WARMING IS A 797 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,300 REAL THING. 798 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:05,600 SUPER SISTER IS A SUPER DOG 799 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,733 WALKER. 800 00:22:06,733 --> 00:22:07,233 >> I MEAN I AM PROUD THAT I WORK 801 00:22:07,233 --> 00:22:08,033 AT THREE MILE ISLAND AND WE 802 00:22:08,033 --> 00:22:09,100 PRODUCE SAFE, CLEAN ENERGY. 803 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,266 IT'S NOT SMOKE COMING FROM THE 804 00:22:11,266 --> 00:22:12,166 TOWERS, IT'S WATER VAPOR. 805 00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:13,066 >> THE FATE OF THE THREE MILE 806 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,200 ISLAND AND BEAVER VALLEY PLANTS 807 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,633 MAY NOW DEPEND ON WHETHER 808 00:22:16,633 --> 00:22:19,300 HARRISBURG LAWMAKERS CAN GET A 809 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:20,233 BAILOUT BAIL PASSED BEFORE THE 810 00:22:20,233 --> 00:22:21,400 END OF THE ANNUAL STATE BUDGET 811 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,066 DEADLINE IN JUNE. 812 00:22:22,066 --> 00:22:22,700 >> AND ONCE YOU CLOSE A NUCLEAR 813 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:24,266 PLANT, THAT'S A PERMANENT 814 00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:26,033 RESULT. 815 00:22:26,033 --> 00:22:27,066 WE ARE GOING TO LOSE A 816 00:22:27,066 --> 00:22:33,800 SIGNIFIGANT AMOUNT OF ZERO 817 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,933 CARBON POWER. 818 00:22:34,933 --> 00:22:36,700 THAT ONCE IT'S GONE WE ARE NOT 819 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:38,500 GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK. 820 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,533 I PERSONALLY DO THINK IT IS 821 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:40,600 IMPORTANT TO KEEP THESE PLANTS 822 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,400 ONLINE FOR THE ZERO CARBON 823 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:50,700 POWER. 824 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:54,133 I THINK THERE'S GOOD WAYS TO DO 825 00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:54,533 IT AND THEN THERE'S MORE HARMFUL 826 00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:57,266 WAYS TO DO IT. 827 00:22:57,266 --> 00:22:58,433 AND THAT'S REALLY IN THE DESIGN 828 00:22:58,433 --> 00:22:58,733 OF THE POLICY. 829 00:22:58,733 --> 00:22:59,000 FOR ME AT THE END OF THE DAY 830 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,233 THAT ZERO CARBON POWER IS REALLY 831 00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:00,300 IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN. 832 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:00,833 >> SOME ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS SEE 833 00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:02,833 THE BAILOUT EFFORT AS AN 834 00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:11,500 OPPORTUNITY TO BOOST RENEWABLE 835 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,666 ENERGY TOO. 836 00:23:13,666 --> 00:23:14,333 >> PENNSYLVANIA'S A HUGE ENERGY 837 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:15,200 STATE. 838 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,166 NUMBER TWO IN PRODUCTION OF 839 00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:16,766 NATURAL GAS, NUMBER THREE IN 840 00:23:16,766 --> 00:23:18,166 PRODUCTION OF COAL. 841 00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:19,166 NUMBER TWO IN PRODUCTION OF 842 00:23:19,166 --> 00:23:25,066 NUCLEAR. 843 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:25,466 BUT WE ARE NOT GREAT ON CLEAN 844 00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:26,433 ENERGY. 845 00:23:26,433 --> 00:23:26,700 NOBODY WANTS TO SEE A STRAIGHT 846 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:26,966 UP, NO STRINGS ATTACHED SUBSIDY 847 00:23:26,966 --> 00:23:27,233 PACKAGE FOR NUCLEAR PLANTS THAT 848 00:23:27,233 --> 00:23:27,500 DOES NOT ALSO INCLUDE MEASURES 849 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:27,833 TO TRANSITION US TO CLEANER 850 00:23:27,833 --> 00:23:29,466 ENERGY FUTURE. 851 00:23:29,466 --> 00:23:29,800 OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, 852 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,266 LEGISLATORS HAVE BEEN MEETING 853 00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:30,866 OVER A BIPARTISAN NUCLEAR ENERGY 854 00:23:30,866 --> 00:23:37,733 CAUCUS. 855 00:23:37,733 --> 00:23:37,966 THEY RECENTLY PUBLISHED A REPORT 856 00:23:37,966 --> 00:23:38,333 SAYING THE BEST LONG TERM 857 00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:38,700 SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC 858 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:39,100 TROUBLES OF NUCLEAR PLANTS, IS 859 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,733 TO PUT A PRICE ON CARBON. 860 00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:41,233 THAT WOULD HURT PLACES LIKE COAL 861 00:23:41,233 --> 00:23:42,700 FIRED POWERPLANTS THAT GET TO 862 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:45,533 SPEW MORE HARMFUL EMISSIONS. 863 00:23:45,533 --> 00:23:45,900 >> WE KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. 864 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:46,500 WE CAN PUT A PRICE ON CARBON, SO 865 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:46,900 THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE PLANTS, 866 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:47,500 ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO PAY A 867 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,300 PREMIUM FOR THE IMPACTS THAT 868 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:50,833 THEIR POLLUTION IS CAUSING ON 869 00:23:50,833 --> 00:23:51,700 PUBLIC HEALTH, ON THE CLIMATE 870 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:57,433 AND ON THE ENVIRONMENT. 871 00:23:57,433 --> 00:23:58,066 WE COULD DO THAT. 872 00:23:58,066 --> 00:24:01,833 WE DO NOT. 873 00:24:01,833 --> 00:24:02,700 THAT GIVES ANY PLANT THAT BURNS 874 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,366 FOSSIL FUELS AND GENERATES 875 00:24:04,366 --> 00:24:13,700 GREENHOUSE GASES AN ADVANTAGE. 876 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:14,200 AND PUT PLANTS THAT DO NOT 877 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,733 GENERATE GREENHOUSE GASES, 878 00:24:14,733 --> 00:24:15,200 INCLUDING BOTH RENEWABLES AND 879 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,000 NUCLEAR AT A DISADVANTAGE. 880 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,600 BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN 881 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,433 THESE DISCUSSIONS TO REMEMBER 882 00:24:18,433 --> 00:24:22,066 WHERE WE ARE, AND WHY WE ARE 883 00:24:22,066 --> 00:24:22,300 HERE. 884 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:22,566 WE'RE AT A POINT IF NUCLEAR 885 00:24:22,566 --> 00:24:22,833 RETIRES IMMEDIATELY WE WOULD 886 00:24:22,833 --> 00:24:23,066 PROBABLY REPLACE IT WITH NATURAL 887 00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:29,566 GAS GENERATION. 888 00:24:29,566 --> 00:24:29,866 BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EFFICIENTLY 889 00:24:29,866 --> 00:24:30,133 PLANNED TO REPLACE IT WITH 890 00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:35,366 SOMETHING CLEANER. 891 00:24:35,366 --> 00:24:39,766 ♪♪ 892 00:24:39,766 --> 00:24:40,433 ♪♪ 893 00:24:40,433 --> 00:24:40,966 >> 40 YEARS AGO NUCLEAR POWER 894 00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:41,366 WAS VIEWED AS TRANSFORMATIVE. 895 00:24:41,366 --> 00:24:42,100 THE SOLUTION TO HUMANITY'S 896 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:42,633 CONSTANT THIRST FOR ENERGY. 897 00:24:42,633 --> 00:24:43,433 BUT THE ACCIDENT AT THREE MILE 898 00:24:43,433 --> 00:24:45,200 ISLAND SPARKED A MAJOR 899 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,200 ANTI-NUCLEAR BACKLASH. 900 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,033 HALTING THE INDUSTRY'S GROWTH IN 901 00:24:47,033 --> 00:24:48,133 THE UNITED STATES FOR DECADES. 902 00:24:48,133 --> 00:24:51,333 THAT HISTORY IS NOW SHAPING THE 903 00:24:51,333 --> 00:24:52,733 QUESTION OF WHETHER GOVERNMENTS 904 00:24:52,733 --> 00:24:53,766 SHOULD HELP KEEP NUCLEAR PLANTS 905 00:24:53,766 --> 00:24:58,666 OPEN. 906 00:24:58,666 --> 00:25:00,600 >> NUCLEAR POWER IS AN ENTITY 907 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,466 THAT IF YOU RUN IT 100 PERCENT 908 00:25:01,466 --> 00:25:10,766 OF THE TIME, 100 PERCENT 909 00:25:10,766 --> 00:25:11,066 PERFECT, WE'RE OK. 910 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:11,433 BUT NOBODY DOES ANYTHING 911 00:25:11,433 --> 00:25:11,766 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME 912 00:25:11,766 --> 00:25:21,000 PERFECTLY. 913 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,333 >> JOYCE'S MOST VIVID MEMORY IS 914 00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:21,933 EVACUATING. 915 00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:22,266 LEAVING BEHIND A HOUSE HER 916 00:25:22,266 --> 00:25:22,533 FATHER BUILT FOR THE FAMILY AND 917 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:22,833 WONDERING IF HER LIFE WOULD EVER 918 00:25:22,833 --> 00:25:27,033 BE THE SAME. 919 00:25:27,033 --> 00:25:27,300 FOR THE HER THE ANNIVERSARY OF 920 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:27,600 THE ACCIDENT ALWAYS BRINGS UP 921 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,133 FEELINGS OF SADNESS AND ANGER. 922 00:25:28,133 --> 00:25:28,400 >> I FIND THAT REALLY 40 YEARS 923 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:28,700 DOWN THE ROAD I AM STILL SITTING 924 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:28,966 ON TOP OF A PLANT THAT HAS ALL 925 00:25:28,966 --> 00:25:29,766 THE WASTE. 926 00:25:29,766 --> 00:25:37,333 I PLANT THAT CAN NOT SELL IT'S 927 00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:38,300 ELECTRICITY AND THERE'S STILL NO 928 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:50,133 REAL ANSWERS. 929 00:25:50,133 --> 00:25:50,466 >> TO THIS DAY SHE AVOIDS 930 00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:50,833 DRIVING BY THE PLANTS COOLING 931 00:25:50,833 --> 00:25:51,466 TOWERS. 932 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:51,900 >> IT'S KIND OF LIKE LIVING WITH 933 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:52,200 A GIANT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 934 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,500 YOU KNOW IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW IT 935 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:52,833 COULD CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS. 936 00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:54,133 BUT YOU LIVE IN AN UNEASY 937 00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:58,533 COMPROMISE. 938 00:25:58,533 --> 00:25:59,833 ♪♪ 939 00:25:59,833 --> 00:26:05,900 >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THREE MILE 940 00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:06,066 ISLAND, THE NEW NUCLEAR DILEMMA 941 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:06,233 IS PROVIDED BY THE CORPORATION 942 00:26:06,233 --> 00:26:06,733 FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND BY 943 00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:06,900 VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 944 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,600 THANK YOU. 945 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,366 ♪♪ 946 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,400 ♪♪