1 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,823 BALL, AT THE PRESIDENT'S APPEAL FOR ACTION IN SYRIA. WHAT NEXT? 2 00:01:20,825 --> 00:01:23,657 FOR ACTION IN SYRIA. WHAT NEXT? TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- 3 00:01:23,659 --> 00:01:26,713 WHAT NEXT? TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE 4 00:01:26,715 --> 00:01:29,642 TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN 5 00:01:29,643 --> 00:01:31,742 >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. 6 00:01:31,744 --> 00:01:33,812 FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT 7 00:01:33,814 --> 00:01:34,639 EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR. 8 00:01:34,641 --> 00:01:36,581 I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR. GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR 9 00:01:36,583 --> 00:01:38,587 START A WAR. GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE 10 00:01:38,589 --> 00:01:39,573 GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. 11 00:01:39,575 --> 00:01:41,642 INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT 12 00:01:41,644 --> 00:01:42,597 AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. 13 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:44,571 >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN 14 00:01:44,573 --> 00:01:45,653 ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. 15 00:01:45,655 --> 00:01:47,532 GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS 16 00:01:47,534 --> 00:01:50,556 OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY 17 00:01:50,558 --> 00:01:54,471 >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN 18 00:01:54,473 --> 00:01:55,458 THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT 19 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:57,496 TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT 20 00:01:57,498 --> 00:01:59,246 OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED. 21 00:01:59,248 --> 00:02:01,220 THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED. >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING 22 00:02:01,222 --> 00:02:03,193 GOING TO BE TOLERATED. >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD 23 00:02:03,195 --> 00:02:05,167 >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF 24 00:02:05,169 --> 00:02:08,287 THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS 25 00:02:08,289 --> 00:02:11,088 PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY 26 00:02:11,090 --> 00:02:15,163 THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE 27 00:02:15,165 --> 00:02:17,041 DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY. 28 00:02:17,043 --> 00:02:18,155 COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY. GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES 29 00:02:18,157 --> 00:02:19,906 OR NATIONAL SECURITY. GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO 30 00:02:19,908 --> 00:02:22,166 GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL 31 00:02:22,168 --> 00:02:22,516 FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS. 32 00:02:22,518 --> 00:02:23,185 FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS. >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY 33 00:02:23,187 --> 00:02:25,063 QUESTIONS. >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE. 34 00:02:25,065 --> 00:02:25,668 >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE. THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S 35 00:02:25,669 --> 00:02:27,928 THE LINE. THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. 36 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:28,883 THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S 37 00:02:28,885 --> 00:02:30,028 CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE 38 00:02:30,030 --> 00:02:31,302 AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO 39 00:02:31,304 --> 00:02:34,008 CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE 40 00:02:34,010 --> 00:02:34,772 BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE 41 00:02:34,774 --> 00:02:35,727 THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT. 42 00:02:35,729 --> 00:02:37,701 INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT. GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE 43 00:02:37,703 --> 00:02:39,675 IMPORTANT. GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? 44 00:02:39,677 --> 00:02:41,902 GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS 45 00:02:41,904 --> 00:02:45,913 PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON 46 00:02:45,915 --> 00:02:48,683 COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS 47 00:02:48,685 --> 00:02:51,771 OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON 48 00:02:51,773 --> 00:02:53,840 OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE 49 00:02:53,842 --> 00:02:54,286 NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." 50 00:02:54,288 --> 00:02:57,501 POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND 51 00:02:57,503 --> 00:02:58,551 NEW YORK TIMES." >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS. 52 00:02:58,553 --> 00:03:01,480 >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS. COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. 53 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:04,441 ANALYSIS. COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, 54 00:03:04,443 --> 00:03:05,968 COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH 55 00:03:05,970 --> 00:03:06,415 LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL." 56 00:03:06,415 --> 00:03:06,700 ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL. 57 00:03:06,702 --> 00:03:08,387 WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL. GWEN: GOOD EVENING. 58 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:10,519 IFILL. GWEN: GOOD EVENING. THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK 59 00:03:10,522 --> 00:03:11,188 GWEN: GOOD EVENING. THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A 60 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:12,270 THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. 61 00:03:12,271 --> 00:03:14,021 FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS 62 00:03:14,023 --> 00:03:15,963 CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO 63 00:03:15,964 --> 00:03:19,115 THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH 64 00:03:19,117 --> 00:03:21,025 DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR 65 00:03:21,027 --> 00:03:23,125 STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST 66 00:03:23,127 --> 00:03:24,940 PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. 67 00:03:24,942 --> 00:03:26,277 USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK 68 00:03:26,279 --> 00:03:26,945 HIS OWN PEOPLE. THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP. 69 00:03:26,946 --> 00:03:28,951 THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP. AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH 70 00:03:28,953 --> 00:03:30,988 HIM UP. AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS 71 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:32,834 AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD. 72 00:03:32,836 --> 00:03:35,253 PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD. >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE 73 00:03:35,255 --> 00:03:36,781 CLIMBED ONBOARD. >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK 74 00:03:36,783 --> 00:03:38,851 >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO 75 00:03:38,853 --> 00:03:40,920 THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A 76 00:03:40,922 --> 00:03:43,817 THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER. 77 00:03:43,819 --> 00:03:44,867 BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER. >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD 78 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:45,250 PAPER TIGER. >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE. 79 00:03:45,252 --> 00:03:47,860 >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE. AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR 80 00:03:47,862 --> 00:03:49,928 AND STRIKE. AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK 81 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:50,629 AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES. 82 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:52,698 TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR 83 00:03:52,699 --> 00:03:53,940 MISSILES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. 84 00:03:53,942 --> 00:03:55,595 GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S 85 00:03:55,597 --> 00:03:58,587 CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY 86 00:03:58,588 --> 00:04:00,560 >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST 87 00:04:00,563 --> 00:04:02,566 INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND 88 00:04:02,568 --> 00:04:03,776 OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL 89 00:04:03,778 --> 00:04:04,507 EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF 90 00:04:04,510 --> 00:04:05,495 CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION. 91 00:04:05,497 --> 00:04:07,532 AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION. GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS 92 00:04:07,534 --> 00:04:10,524 INACTION. GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO 93 00:04:10,527 --> 00:04:11,702 GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN 94 00:04:11,703 --> 00:04:12,084 OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED. 95 00:04:12,087 --> 00:04:12,753 CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED. >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT 96 00:04:12,754 --> 00:04:13,580 UNCONVINCED. >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. 97 00:04:13,583 --> 00:04:16,541 >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, 98 00:04:16,542 --> 00:04:17,560 OUR PROBLEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. 99 00:04:17,561 --> 00:04:19,501 IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A 100 00:04:19,503 --> 00:04:20,871 IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, 101 00:04:20,873 --> 00:04:22,303 IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. 102 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:24,276 THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US 103 00:04:24,278 --> 00:04:25,582 THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT 104 00:04:25,583 --> 00:04:29,275 >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE 105 00:04:29,276 --> 00:04:34,272 HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET 106 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,246 IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A 107 00:04:36,247 --> 00:04:37,072 R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION. 108 00:04:37,075 --> 00:04:39,174 DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION. GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. 109 00:04:39,177 --> 00:04:41,212 MILITARY ACTION. GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? 110 00:04:41,214 --> 00:04:43,217 GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO 111 00:04:43,219 --> 00:04:45,063 WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE 112 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:46,974 >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 113 00:04:46,975 --> 00:04:49,296 THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER 114 00:04:49,299 --> 00:04:50,920 "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. 115 00:04:50,923 --> 00:04:52,895 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO 116 00:04:52,897 --> 00:04:54,295 NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT 117 00:04:54,296 --> 00:04:57,001 YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO 118 00:04:57,002 --> 00:04:58,115 DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE 119 00:04:58,116 --> 00:04:58,401 COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE. 120 00:04:58,403 --> 00:05:00,885 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE. THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. 121 00:05:00,887 --> 00:05:03,208 HOUSE. THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT 122 00:05:03,211 --> 00:05:05,914 THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. 123 00:05:05,917 --> 00:05:07,951 IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. 124 00:05:07,953 --> 00:05:09,830 JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A 125 00:05:09,831 --> 00:05:10,944 FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. 126 00:05:10,945 --> 00:05:13,840 ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. YOU TALK TO SENIOR 127 00:05:13,843 --> 00:05:14,796 MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE 128 00:05:14,798 --> 00:05:16,929 YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE 129 00:05:16,931 --> 00:05:17,756 CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND 130 00:05:17,757 --> 00:05:22,786 TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY 131 00:05:22,788 --> 00:05:26,636 HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON 132 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:30,585 HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE 133 00:05:30,586 --> 00:05:33,736 LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME 134 00:05:33,737 --> 00:05:37,652 MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED 135 00:05:37,654 --> 00:05:39,530 MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE 136 00:05:39,532 --> 00:05:39,816 REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. 137 00:05:39,818 --> 00:05:41,566 THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S 138 00:05:41,569 --> 00:05:42,777 WEEK. THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES 139 00:05:42,778 --> 00:05:45,419 THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE 140 00:05:45,421 --> 00:05:46,279 THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER 141 00:05:46,281 --> 00:05:47,360 AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS. 142 00:05:47,363 --> 00:05:50,481 PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS. GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS 143 00:05:50,483 --> 00:05:52,391 IN THE COMING DAYS. GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN 144 00:05:52,392 --> 00:05:54,300 GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE 145 00:05:54,303 --> 00:05:56,370 LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE 146 00:05:56,372 --> 00:05:57,389 SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE 147 00:05:57,391 --> 00:06:00,253 PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. 148 00:06:00,256 --> 00:06:02,067 THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH 149 00:06:02,069 --> 00:06:04,296 FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO 150 00:06:04,298 --> 00:06:06,334 >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY 151 00:06:06,335 --> 00:06:08,211 BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE 152 00:06:08,213 --> 00:06:09,326 ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY 153 00:06:09,328 --> 00:06:10,376 SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR 154 00:06:10,378 --> 00:06:10,759 THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP. 155 00:06:10,761 --> 00:06:12,923 FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP. THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND 156 00:06:12,925 --> 00:06:15,183 LEADERSHIP. THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND 157 00:06:15,186 --> 00:06:15,947 THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY 158 00:06:15,949 --> 00:06:17,061 MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. 159 00:06:17,063 --> 00:06:19,925 SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE 160 00:06:19,928 --> 00:06:22,058 TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN 161 00:06:22,061 --> 00:06:25,911 ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN 162 00:06:25,913 --> 00:06:30,941 NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER 163 00:06:30,942 --> 00:06:32,819 AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. 164 00:06:32,821 --> 00:06:33,869 DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT 165 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:35,874 PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' 166 00:06:35,877 --> 00:06:36,798 THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE 167 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,975 THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF 168 00:06:37,978 --> 00:06:39,694 PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET 169 00:06:39,697 --> 00:06:40,841 GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED. 170 00:06:40,842 --> 00:06:43,801 THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED. AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE 171 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:50,581 THIS PASSED. AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY 172 00:06:50,583 --> 00:06:53,637 AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND 173 00:06:53,638 --> 00:06:54,656 THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING 174 00:06:54,658 --> 00:06:57,490 IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. 175 00:06:57,490 --> 00:06:59,526 TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO 176 00:06:59,527 --> 00:07:01,563 TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN 177 00:07:01,566 --> 00:07:02,582 AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS 178 00:07:02,585 --> 00:07:04,461 HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S 179 00:07:04,463 --> 00:07:06,625 OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF 180 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:06,912 ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES. 181 00:07:06,914 --> 00:07:07,580 GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS 182 00:07:07,581 --> 00:07:09,426 VOTES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN 183 00:07:09,428 --> 00:07:11,623 GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY 184 00:07:11,626 --> 00:07:12,705 SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR 185 00:07:12,707 --> 00:07:15,539 OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. 186 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:17,289 THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS 187 00:07:17,292 --> 00:07:18,276 ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE? 188 00:07:18,278 --> 00:07:20,441 WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE? WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE 189 00:07:20,443 --> 00:07:21,268 DEBATE? WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR? 190 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:23,529 WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR? >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT 191 00:07:23,530 --> 00:07:25,374 AIR? >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT 192 00:07:25,377 --> 00:07:25,661 >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT. 193 00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:27,381 DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT. EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO 194 00:07:27,382 --> 00:07:28,431 DO IT. EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS 195 00:07:28,433 --> 00:07:30,118 EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME. 196 00:07:30,121 --> 00:07:33,174 HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME. OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET 197 00:07:33,175 --> 00:07:34,383 MONEY AT HOME. OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN 198 00:07:34,386 --> 00:07:35,244 OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION. 199 00:07:35,245 --> 00:07:39,126 OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION. AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN 200 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:41,101 THE REGION. AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON. 201 00:07:41,102 --> 00:07:42,246 AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON. I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR 202 00:07:42,248 --> 00:07:47,308 THE REASON. I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE 203 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:50,205 I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING 204 00:07:50,206 --> 00:07:51,255 PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO 205 00:07:51,256 --> 00:07:51,891 EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS. 206 00:07:51,894 --> 00:07:53,930 WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS. I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE 207 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:56,825 THIS. I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 208 00:07:56,828 --> 00:07:57,939 I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE. 209 00:07:57,942 --> 00:08:00,710 OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE. HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 210 00:08:00,711 --> 00:08:01,728 100 TO ONE. HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1. 211 00:08:01,731 --> 00:08:02,714 HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1. PEOPLE AGAINST. 212 00:08:02,717 --> 00:08:04,689 800-1. PEOPLE AGAINST. WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE 213 00:08:04,691 --> 00:08:05,708 PEOPLE AGAINST. WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY? 214 00:08:05,709 --> 00:08:07,873 WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY? PEOPLE THINK IT'S 215 00:08:07,874 --> 00:08:08,286 MAJORITY? PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE. 216 00:08:08,287 --> 00:08:08,985 PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE 217 00:08:08,988 --> 00:08:10,036 UNPREDICTABLE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS 218 00:08:10,038 --> 00:08:12,615 NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED 219 00:08:12,616 --> 00:08:15,735 PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL 220 00:08:15,736 --> 00:08:18,663 BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. 221 00:08:18,666 --> 00:08:20,732 STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS 222 00:08:20,735 --> 00:08:23,694 END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR 223 00:08:23,695 --> 00:08:26,495 THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY 224 00:08:26,497 --> 00:08:27,672 CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE. 225 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:30,505 CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET 226 00:08:30,506 --> 00:08:32,448 THEIR FIERCE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, 227 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:35,408 THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK. 228 00:08:35,409 --> 00:08:37,604 THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK. GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE 229 00:08:37,606 --> 00:08:39,546 THAT'S A BIG TASK. GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS 230 00:08:39,547 --> 00:08:39,833 GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL. 231 00:08:39,835 --> 00:08:41,424 IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES 232 00:08:41,426 --> 00:08:44,449 REAL. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN 233 00:08:44,450 --> 00:08:47,250 WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM 234 00:08:47,252 --> 00:08:49,415 THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? 235 00:08:49,416 --> 00:08:52,280 KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST 236 00:08:52,281 --> 00:08:53,170 "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. 237 00:08:53,173 --> 00:08:54,540 >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE 238 00:08:54,541 --> 00:08:57,118 THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD 239 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,379 IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE 240 00:08:59,379 --> 00:09:01,255 THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE? 241 00:09:01,258 --> 00:09:02,402 USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE? HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE 242 00:09:02,405 --> 00:09:03,071 ACTUALLY THERE? HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS. 243 00:09:03,072 --> 00:09:05,076 HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS. WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF 244 00:09:05,078 --> 00:09:08,133 WERE WEAPONS. WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE 245 00:09:08,135 --> 00:09:09,024 WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL 246 00:09:09,026 --> 00:09:10,043 PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS. 247 00:09:10,044 --> 00:09:12,144 ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS. THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH 248 00:09:12,145 --> 00:09:14,020 ATTACKS. THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. 249 00:09:14,023 --> 00:09:16,153 THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT 250 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:18,192 PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT 251 00:09:18,194 --> 00:09:19,497 THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE 252 00:09:19,499 --> 00:09:21,025 YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. 253 00:09:21,027 --> 00:09:21,884 THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS. 254 00:09:21,886 --> 00:09:23,858 THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS. WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY 255 00:09:23,859 --> 00:09:25,322 HAS. WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU 256 00:09:25,325 --> 00:09:27,009 WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE 257 00:09:27,010 --> 00:09:29,874 USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, 258 00:09:29,876 --> 00:09:32,803 HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN 259 00:09:32,805 --> 00:09:34,076 AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING 260 00:09:34,078 --> 00:09:34,808 WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU. 261 00:09:34,811 --> 00:09:36,114 GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN 262 00:09:36,115 --> 00:09:36,750 TO YOU. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT. 263 00:09:36,752 --> 00:09:38,915 THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT. THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE 264 00:09:38,917 --> 00:09:42,735 DO IT. THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN 265 00:09:42,737 --> 00:09:43,785 THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF 266 00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:44,804 THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN 267 00:09:44,806 --> 00:09:46,683 BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON 268 00:09:46,685 --> 00:09:47,860 PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE 269 00:09:47,861 --> 00:09:50,534 THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES 270 00:09:50,535 --> 00:09:51,999 ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE 271 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,379 AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT. 272 00:09:52,382 --> 00:09:54,736 HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE 273 00:09:54,737 --> 00:09:57,474 GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE 274 00:09:57,475 --> 00:09:59,479 AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE 275 00:09:59,481 --> 00:10:02,344 ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT 276 00:10:02,346 --> 00:10:04,382 NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS 277 00:10:04,383 --> 00:10:05,559 KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN 278 00:10:05,561 --> 00:10:07,215 OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER 279 00:10:07,216 --> 00:10:08,297 PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT. 280 00:10:08,299 --> 00:10:09,442 TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE 281 00:10:09,445 --> 00:10:11,321 THE FACT. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS 282 00:10:11,323 --> 00:10:13,327 GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID 283 00:10:13,329 --> 00:10:15,331 THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE 284 00:10:15,334 --> 00:10:18,134 SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET 285 00:10:18,135 --> 00:10:20,170 IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED 286 00:10:20,172 --> 00:10:21,188 THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE. 287 00:10:21,191 --> 00:10:23,099 HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A 288 00:10:23,101 --> 00:10:24,150 ABOUT HIS RED LINE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE. 289 00:10:24,152 --> 00:10:25,264 >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. 290 00:10:25,266 --> 00:10:28,288 RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN 291 00:10:28,290 --> 00:10:30,134 THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF 292 00:10:30,136 --> 00:10:33,889 THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE 293 00:10:33,892 --> 00:10:39,939 GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE 294 00:10:39,941 --> 00:10:41,785 THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY 295 00:10:41,787 --> 00:10:43,854 -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN 296 00:10:43,856 --> 00:10:45,860 ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. 297 00:10:45,861 --> 00:10:48,819 FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT 298 00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:49,712 COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY. 299 00:10:49,713 --> 00:10:51,877 CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY. GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS 300 00:10:51,878 --> 00:10:52,927 RATIFYED THAT TREATY. GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE 301 00:10:52,928 --> 00:10:54,678 GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE 302 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,652 QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS 303 00:10:56,653 --> 00:10:59,611 CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS 304 00:10:59,614 --> 00:11:00,662 RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES. 305 00:11:00,665 --> 00:11:01,840 CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES. IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING 306 00:11:01,841 --> 00:11:02,923 PROMISES. IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? 307 00:11:02,925 --> 00:11:03,336 IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? >> I THINK SO. 308 00:11:03,339 --> 00:11:04,642 AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? >> I THINK SO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM 309 00:11:04,643 --> 00:11:06,647 >> I THINK SO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE 310 00:11:06,649 --> 00:11:07,634 ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT 311 00:11:07,636 --> 00:11:09,702 LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE 312 00:11:09,705 --> 00:11:11,709 HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF 313 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:13,746 OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL 314 00:11:13,747 --> 00:11:14,096 THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. 315 00:11:14,098 --> 00:11:14,701 SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN 316 00:11:14,702 --> 00:11:15,591 COMMUNITY. IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD 317 00:11:15,594 --> 00:11:19,603 IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO 318 00:11:19,605 --> 00:11:19,953 INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS. 319 00:11:19,955 --> 00:11:21,417 BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS. THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN 320 00:11:21,420 --> 00:11:23,678 CONGRESS. THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE 321 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:24,410 THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY 322 00:11:24,412 --> 00:11:26,574 ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT 323 00:11:26,576 --> 00:11:26,957 UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT. 324 00:11:26,958 --> 00:11:30,267 INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT. THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL 325 00:11:30,269 --> 00:11:31,572 THIS POINT. THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON 326 00:11:31,574 --> 00:11:34,246 THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T 327 00:11:34,249 --> 00:11:36,188 FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. 328 00:11:36,190 --> 00:11:38,258 INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE 329 00:11:38,259 --> 00:11:43,319 NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT 330 00:11:43,321 --> 00:11:45,069 BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? 331 00:11:45,070 --> 00:11:47,042 NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. 332 00:11:47,045 --> 00:11:49,112 AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED 333 00:11:49,115 --> 00:11:51,244 AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 334 00:11:51,247 --> 00:11:54,142 >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED 335 00:11:54,143 --> 00:11:56,179 LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, 336 00:11:56,181 --> 00:11:58,152 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ 337 00:11:58,155 --> 00:11:59,013 OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR. 338 00:11:59,014 --> 00:12:00,922 INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR. THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED 339 00:12:00,925 --> 00:12:03,214 WAR. THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND 340 00:12:03,215 --> 00:12:04,902 THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE 341 00:12:04,904 --> 00:12:06,048 LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. 342 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:07,958 SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN 343 00:12:07,959 --> 00:12:09,867 CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. 344 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:12,128 SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE 345 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:12,892 BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID. 346 00:12:12,894 --> 00:12:14,897 YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID. HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS 347 00:12:14,898 --> 00:12:16,012 WHY HE DID. HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. 348 00:12:16,013 --> 00:12:17,826 HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT 349 00:12:17,828 --> 00:12:19,768 DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S 350 00:12:19,769 --> 00:12:21,072 HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. 351 00:12:21,075 --> 00:12:22,760 OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF 352 00:12:22,762 --> 00:12:25,721 NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES 353 00:12:25,723 --> 00:12:27,789 WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS 354 00:12:27,791 --> 00:12:29,572 AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. 355 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,642 BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED 356 00:12:31,644 --> 00:12:33,837 AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE 357 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,589 THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND 358 00:12:35,591 --> 00:12:37,657 RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD 359 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:38,804 NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. 360 00:12:38,806 --> 00:12:40,554 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES 361 00:12:40,556 --> 00:12:42,464 CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. 362 00:12:42,466 --> 00:12:44,471 HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT 363 00:12:44,473 --> 00:12:46,572 THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN 364 00:12:46,573 --> 00:12:48,577 CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY 365 00:12:48,578 --> 00:12:51,601 SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN 366 00:12:51,603 --> 00:12:53,479 EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF 367 00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:55,389 NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT 368 00:12:55,390 --> 00:12:58,476 REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T 369 00:12:58,479 --> 00:13:00,323 THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET 370 00:13:00,325 --> 00:13:02,233 MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE 371 00:13:02,235 --> 00:13:05,226 INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- 372 00:13:05,228 --> 00:13:07,421 LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE 373 00:13:07,424 --> 00:13:09,237 QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. 374 00:13:09,239 --> 00:13:10,382 WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE 375 00:13:10,383 --> 00:13:12,197 IN THE MIDDLE EAST. >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF 376 00:13:12,199 --> 00:13:13,342 >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS. 377 00:13:13,345 --> 00:13:15,348 NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW 378 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:17,258 CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL 379 00:13:17,259 --> 00:13:17,543 IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD. 380 00:13:17,546 --> 00:13:18,499 MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD. IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS 381 00:13:18,501 --> 00:13:22,033 WORLD. IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR 382 00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:24,326 IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS 383 00:13:24,328 --> 00:13:26,012 IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER. 384 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:29,037 OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER. THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND 385 00:13:29,038 --> 00:13:31,996 GET LOOSER. THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED 386 00:13:31,999 --> 00:13:34,003 THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE. 387 00:13:34,004 --> 00:13:35,085 AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE. THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND 388 00:13:35,087 --> 00:13:36,103 THEY COULD COME HERE. THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S 389 00:13:36,105 --> 00:13:37,122 THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH. 390 00:13:37,124 --> 00:13:39,032 EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH. IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT 391 00:13:39,034 --> 00:13:40,147 ALSO A STRETCH. IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF 392 00:13:40,148 --> 00:13:41,037 IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. 393 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,979 DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE 394 00:13:42,981 --> 00:13:46,036 THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE 395 00:13:46,037 --> 00:13:47,850 WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A 396 00:13:47,852 --> 00:13:49,792 IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END 397 00:13:49,793 --> 00:13:52,751 MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE 398 00:13:52,754 --> 00:13:55,649 STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. 399 00:13:55,650 --> 00:13:57,909 WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING 400 00:13:57,911 --> 00:13:58,832 REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. 401 00:13:58,833 --> 00:14:01,761 >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE 402 00:14:01,763 --> 00:14:03,671 CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT 403 00:14:03,672 --> 00:14:04,530 IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL. 404 00:14:04,533 --> 00:14:07,777 SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL. GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF 405 00:14:07,779 --> 00:14:08,191 IS CHEMICAL. GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT. 406 00:14:08,193 --> 00:14:09,687 GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT. BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS 407 00:14:09,689 --> 00:14:10,038 THIS ARGUMENT. BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS? 408 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:12,456 BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS? >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING 409 00:14:12,459 --> 00:14:14,653 POLITICS? >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS 410 00:14:14,655 --> 00:14:16,468 >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL 411 00:14:16,469 --> 00:14:17,614 THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING. 412 00:14:17,615 --> 00:14:19,524 ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING. AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. 413 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:21,784 SHEETS EVERY MORNING. AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM 414 00:14:21,786 --> 00:14:23,503 AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A 415 00:14:23,505 --> 00:14:26,463 JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR 416 00:14:26,464 --> 00:14:27,355 THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 417 00:14:27,357 --> 00:14:28,660 CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS 418 00:14:28,662 --> 00:14:31,334 BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO 419 00:14:31,335 --> 00:14:33,339 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA. 420 00:14:33,342 --> 00:14:36,268 I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA. HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% 421 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:37,414 GOING INTO SYRIA. HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. 422 00:14:37,416 --> 00:14:39,197 HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 423 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:43,272 AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED 424 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:47,346 REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY 425 00:14:47,347 --> 00:14:47,664 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION. 426 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:50,116 TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION. BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN 427 00:14:50,118 --> 00:14:53,967 ACTION. BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. 428 00:14:53,969 --> 00:14:57,023 BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 429 00:14:57,025 --> 00:15:01,001 VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. 430 00:15:01,004 --> 00:15:03,167 -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL 431 00:15:03,169 --> 00:15:05,046 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? 432 00:15:05,047 --> 00:15:05,427 GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? >> VERY FEW. 433 00:15:05,428 --> 00:15:06,987 SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? >> VERY FEW. >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. 434 00:15:06,989 --> 00:15:09,852 >> VERY FEW. >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO 435 00:15:09,854 --> 00:15:11,793 >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. 436 00:15:11,794 --> 00:15:13,895 AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR 437 00:15:13,897 --> 00:15:14,849 SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST 438 00:15:14,852 --> 00:15:16,091 HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS. 439 00:15:16,092 --> 00:15:20,898 JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS. WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO 440 00:15:20,899 --> 00:15:23,031 POPULAR THINGS. WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I 441 00:15:23,032 --> 00:15:24,782 WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE 442 00:15:24,784 --> 00:15:27,042 MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS 443 00:15:27,044 --> 00:15:27,901 THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL. 444 00:15:27,903 --> 00:15:29,779 MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST 445 00:15:29,781 --> 00:15:30,670 ON CAPITOL HILL. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE. 446 00:15:30,673 --> 00:15:32,645 I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS 447 00:15:32,647 --> 00:15:33,822 EFFECTIVE. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH 448 00:15:33,824 --> 00:15:34,236 THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL. 449 00:15:34,237 --> 00:15:37,577 HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL. THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF 450 00:15:37,580 --> 00:15:39,712 CAPITOL HILL. THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG 451 00:15:39,713 --> 00:15:41,494 THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS. 452 00:15:41,496 --> 00:15:43,627 POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST 453 00:15:43,629 --> 00:15:45,759 OR TRUST RHYTHMS. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED 454 00:15:45,761 --> 00:15:48,370 THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO 455 00:15:48,372 --> 00:15:49,452 RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM. 456 00:15:49,454 --> 00:15:52,540 CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM. GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL 457 00:15:52,542 --> 00:15:55,469 CORRAL THEM. GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T 458 00:15:55,471 --> 00:15:57,474 GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. 459 00:15:57,476 --> 00:15:59,289 ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE 460 00:15:59,290 --> 00:16:00,626 HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. 461 00:16:00,628 --> 00:16:02,344 NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE 462 00:16:02,346 --> 00:16:06,324 PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL 463 00:16:06,325 --> 00:16:08,330 LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. 464 00:16:08,332 --> 00:16:11,450 PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A 465 00:16:11,451 --> 00:16:12,341 ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US 466 00:16:12,343 --> 00:16:14,441 >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF 467 00:16:14,443 --> 00:16:18,260 TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN 468 00:16:18,262 --> 00:16:18,580 THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA. 469 00:16:18,582 --> 00:16:20,076 PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA. IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON 470 00:16:20,077 --> 00:16:23,068 RWANDA. IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD 471 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:27,938 IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? 472 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:29,085 RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? -- RWANDNDND 473 00:16:29,086 --> 00:16:34,878 WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? -- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY 474 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,947 -- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING 475 00:16:36,948 --> 00:16:38,189 I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL 476 00:16:38,191 --> 00:16:39,206 GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING 477 00:16:39,209 --> 00:16:39,557 CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT. 478 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:42,932 ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT. >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN 479 00:16:42,934 --> 00:16:43,887 ARGUMENT. >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM 480 00:16:43,889 --> 00:16:45,733 >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 481 00:16:45,735 --> 00:16:47,865 INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM 482 00:16:47,868 --> 00:16:50,763 BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF 483 00:16:50,765 --> 00:16:52,673 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS 484 00:16:52,675 --> 00:16:54,837 CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE 485 00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:56,652 ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S 486 00:16:56,654 --> 00:16:58,881 LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF 487 00:16:58,882 --> 00:17:01,617 ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN 488 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:02,955 NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL 489 00:17:02,956 --> 00:17:04,706 THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON 490 00:17:04,708 --> 00:17:05,025 UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND. 491 00:17:05,026 --> 00:17:09,640 ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND. HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 492 00:17:09,642 --> 00:17:12,505 GROUND. HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE 493 00:17:12,507 --> 00:17:14,670 HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF 494 00:17:14,671 --> 00:17:16,739 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE 495 00:17:16,741 --> 00:17:19,349 ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL 496 00:17:19,351 --> 00:17:20,336 THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. 497 00:17:20,338 --> 00:17:22,374 REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC 498 00:17:22,376 --> 00:17:23,550 WEAPONS. THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT 499 00:17:23,553 --> 00:17:25,366 THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS 500 00:17:25,367 --> 00:17:28,231 DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO 501 00:17:28,233 --> 00:17:31,286 BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT 502 00:17:31,288 --> 00:17:33,356 A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID 503 00:17:33,357 --> 00:17:34,183 TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD. 504 00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:35,552 ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE 505 00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:37,240 TO ASOD. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK 506 00:17:37,242 --> 00:17:38,385 AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE 507 00:17:38,387 --> 00:17:41,123 HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT 508 00:17:41,124 --> 00:17:42,396 FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE 509 00:17:42,398 --> 00:17:43,191 I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER? 510 00:17:43,194 --> 00:17:45,389 HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER? GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY 511 00:17:45,391 --> 00:17:47,012 DAY AFTER? GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON. 512 00:17:47,014 --> 00:17:48,412 GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON. >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND 513 00:17:48,414 --> 00:17:50,259 SLOPE THING GOING ON. >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT. 514 00:17:50,261 --> 00:17:52,074 >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT. HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE 515 00:17:52,076 --> 00:17:53,952 THE DISCONNECT. HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE 516 00:17:53,953 --> 00:17:56,976 HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO 517 00:17:56,978 --> 00:17:58,090 WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS 518 00:17:58,092 --> 00:17:58,822 OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY. 519 00:17:58,824 --> 00:18:02,037 CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY. GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME 520 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:05,124 STRATEGY. GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN 521 00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:05,699 GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. 522 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:07,990 CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE 523 00:18:07,992 --> 00:18:09,996 JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS 524 00:18:09,997 --> 00:18:13,784 >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL 525 00:18:13,786 --> 00:18:15,821 COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION 526 00:18:15,823 --> 00:18:17,826 IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT 527 00:18:17,828 --> 00:18:19,036 COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY 528 00:18:19,038 --> 00:18:19,705 EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT. 529 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:22,728 WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT. THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO 530 00:18:22,731 --> 00:18:23,843 TWEENGED IT. THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. 531 00:18:23,845 --> 00:18:25,912 THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. THAT'S DIFFERENT. 532 00:18:25,914 --> 00:18:27,886 DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS 533 00:18:27,888 --> 00:18:29,635 THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF 534 00:18:29,638 --> 00:18:30,528 THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER. 535 00:18:30,530 --> 00:18:32,789 AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER. WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE 536 00:18:32,790 --> 00:18:34,602 POWER. WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE 537 00:18:34,604 --> 00:18:35,654 WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE. 538 00:18:35,655 --> 00:18:37,690 ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE. IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE 539 00:18:37,692 --> 00:18:40,460 SLIPLY SLOPE. IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. 540 00:18:40,461 --> 00:18:42,529 IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO 541 00:18:42,531 --> 00:18:43,644 TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN 542 00:18:43,646 --> 00:18:45,362 GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, 543 00:18:45,364 --> 00:18:48,419 THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, 544 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,519 KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT 545 00:18:50,521 --> 00:18:52,334 SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. 546 00:18:52,336 --> 00:18:53,320 WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. LET'S LISTEN. 547 00:18:53,321 --> 00:18:56,312 EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. LET'S LISTEN. >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, 548 00:18:56,315 --> 00:18:58,255 LET'S LISTEN. >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT 549 00:18:58,257 --> 00:19:03,316 >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A 550 00:19:03,318 --> 00:19:06,339 FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING 551 00:19:06,342 --> 00:19:12,166 HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF 552 00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:13,407 CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE 553 00:19:13,409 --> 00:19:16,240 SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR 554 00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:17,099 DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE 555 00:19:17,102 --> 00:19:18,469 TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 556 00:19:18,471 --> 00:19:20,251 MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I 557 00:19:20,253 --> 00:19:22,002 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT 558 00:19:22,004 --> 00:19:24,199 TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY 559 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,031 DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO 560 00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:28,241 OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS 561 00:19:28,243 --> 00:19:30,088 DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN. 562 00:19:30,089 --> 00:19:32,220 LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN. GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR 563 00:19:32,222 --> 00:19:33,971 TIGHT AS WE CAN. GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN. 564 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:35,976 GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN. >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR 565 00:19:35,978 --> 00:19:37,123 AND SHUT IT AGAIN. >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. 566 00:19:37,125 --> 00:19:38,938 >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP 567 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:40,051 HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS 568 00:19:40,053 --> 00:19:41,198 THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE 569 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,890 PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO 570 00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,864 COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A 571 00:19:46,866 --> 00:19:48,074 SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO 572 00:19:48,076 --> 00:19:48,805 U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT. 573 00:19:48,807 --> 00:19:50,939 RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT. IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, 574 00:19:50,941 --> 00:19:52,912 BUT THAT'S IT. IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE 575 00:19:52,913 --> 00:19:55,809 IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. 576 00:19:55,811 --> 00:19:58,609 YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, 577 00:19:58,612 --> 00:20:00,615 MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS 578 00:20:00,617 --> 00:20:04,626 THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. 579 00:20:04,627 --> 00:20:05,836 CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE 580 00:20:05,838 --> 00:20:07,714 -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE 581 00:20:07,716 --> 00:20:09,879 >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO 582 00:20:09,881 --> 00:20:11,725 THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY 583 00:20:11,727 --> 00:20:12,713 PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. 584 00:20:12,715 --> 00:20:15,004 THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS 585 00:20:15,006 --> 00:20:15,736 LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON 586 00:20:15,738 --> 00:20:18,601 THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, 587 00:20:18,603 --> 00:20:20,384 NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. 588 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:24,650 IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE 589 00:20:24,652 --> 00:20:25,000 SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS. 590 00:20:25,002 --> 00:20:28,469 HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR 591 00:20:28,472 --> 00:20:29,520 HEARINGS. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. 592 00:20:29,522 --> 00:20:32,544 HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE 593 00:20:32,546 --> 00:20:33,372 MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS 594 00:20:33,374 --> 00:20:35,345 A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE 595 00:20:35,347 --> 00:20:36,650 INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS 596 00:20:36,651 --> 00:20:37,319 WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. 597 00:20:37,321 --> 00:20:39,198 HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. >> -- AS WELL. 598 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,660 THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. >> -- AS WELL. >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT 599 00:20:40,663 --> 00:20:43,240 >> -- AS WELL. >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE 600 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,150 >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE 601 00:20:45,152 --> 00:20:46,137 SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY. 602 00:20:46,139 --> 00:20:48,109 HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY. JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND 603 00:20:48,112 --> 00:20:51,135 TESTIMONY. JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF 604 00:20:51,137 --> 00:20:53,109 JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON 605 00:20:53,111 --> 00:20:55,145 ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO 606 00:20:55,147 --> 00:20:55,433 HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH. 607 00:20:55,435 --> 00:20:57,310 SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH. >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN 608 00:20:57,312 --> 00:20:58,264 WATCH. >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE 609 00:20:58,267 --> 00:21:00,144 >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE 610 00:21:00,145 --> 00:21:02,117 THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP. 611 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,263 SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP. IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT 612 00:21:03,265 --> 00:21:03,581 KERRY CAMP. IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING. 613 00:21:03,583 --> 00:21:06,192 IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? 614 00:21:06,194 --> 00:21:08,960 HEARING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S 615 00:21:08,963 --> 00:21:10,266 WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW 616 00:21:10,268 --> 00:21:12,909 IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION 617 00:21:12,911 --> 00:21:14,850 VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. 618 00:21:14,852 --> 00:21:16,983 OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING 619 00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:19,116 LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO 620 00:21:19,118 --> 00:21:20,740 TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING 621 00:21:20,741 --> 00:21:21,757 THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS. 622 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,828 ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS. SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE 623 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:25,705 TO MISS. SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING 624 00:21:25,707 --> 00:21:27,775 SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE 625 00:21:27,776 --> 00:21:28,825 ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. 626 00:21:28,827 --> 00:21:30,640 SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT 627 00:21:30,641 --> 00:21:32,836 DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE 628 00:21:32,838 --> 00:21:33,949 WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. 629 00:21:33,952 --> 00:21:36,593 CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. GWEN: THEY DON'T DO 630 00:21:36,595 --> 00:21:38,630 U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. 631 00:21:38,632 --> 00:21:39,808 GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE 632 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:42,704 HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA 633 00:21:42,706 --> 00:21:44,742 >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI 634 00:21:44,744 --> 00:21:45,728 SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS 635 00:21:45,731 --> 00:21:48,625 BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY 636 00:21:48,626 --> 00:21:49,485 AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE 637 00:21:49,487 --> 00:21:52,637 CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE 638 00:21:52,639 --> 00:21:54,450 BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT 639 00:21:54,451 --> 00:21:57,442 PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I 640 00:21:57,445 --> 00:21:59,513 IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO 641 00:21:59,515 --> 00:22:00,499 FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE 642 00:22:00,501 --> 00:22:01,359 CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND. 643 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,523 MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND. GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH 644 00:22:03,524 --> 00:22:04,414 GROUND. GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT. 645 00:22:04,416 --> 00:22:05,432 GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE 646 00:22:05,435 --> 00:22:07,279 TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A 647 00:22:07,281 --> 00:22:08,648 THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. 648 00:22:08,650 --> 00:22:10,335 HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? 649 00:22:10,337 --> 00:22:11,290 LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON 650 00:22:11,292 --> 00:22:13,678 WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION 651 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:14,092 HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT? 652 00:22:14,094 --> 00:22:16,320 HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT? >> VERY MUCH. 653 00:22:16,321 --> 00:22:17,211 TUESDAY NIGHT? >> VERY MUCH. LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. 654 00:22:17,214 --> 00:22:20,204 >> VERY MUCH. LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A 655 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,209 LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT 656 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:24,279 THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- 657 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,520 SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 658 00:22:25,522 --> 00:22:27,143 THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL 659 00:22:27,145 --> 00:22:30,199 HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF 660 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,147 AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON 661 00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:37,012 WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI. 662 00:22:37,014 --> 00:22:40,195 RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI. IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP 663 00:22:40,197 --> 00:22:40,513 SWITCH OWENS SI. IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE. 664 00:22:40,515 --> 00:22:43,155 IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE. THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT 665 00:22:43,157 --> 00:22:45,065 KENZIE. THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION 666 00:22:45,067 --> 00:22:47,167 THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT 667 00:22:47,169 --> 00:22:49,107 MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE 668 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:49,427 AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS. 669 00:22:49,428 --> 00:22:53,024 SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS. >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE 670 00:22:53,026 --> 00:22:53,978 DAKOTAS. >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE 671 00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:57,958 >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI 672 00:22:57,959 --> 00:22:59,104 EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING 673 00:22:59,106 --> 00:23:00,822 AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM 674 00:23:00,825 --> 00:23:01,873 THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER. 675 00:23:01,875 --> 00:23:03,019 BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER. THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE 676 00:23:03,021 --> 00:23:04,038 TOGETHER. THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO 677 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,929 THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS. 678 00:23:04,931 --> 00:23:07,985 PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS. MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS 679 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:08,527 FORM OPINIONS. MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. 680 00:23:08,529 --> 00:23:11,710 MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS 681 00:23:11,710 --> 00:23:13,078 CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE 682 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,689 THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS 683 00:23:15,691 --> 00:23:17,948 ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS 684 00:23:17,951 --> 00:23:18,649 GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK. 685 00:23:18,651 --> 00:23:20,591 TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK. >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- 686 00:23:20,594 --> 00:23:23,743 NEXT WEEK. >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, 687 00:23:23,745 --> 00:23:25,684 >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE 688 00:23:25,686 --> 00:23:27,467 WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE 689 00:23:27,469 --> 00:23:31,510 ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC 690 00:23:31,512 --> 00:23:34,502 KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO 691 00:23:34,504 --> 00:23:35,424 WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN. 692 00:23:35,427 --> 00:23:38,449 DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A 693 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:39,564 INNOCENT CHILDREN. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS 694 00:23:39,566 --> 00:23:42,397 THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA. 695 00:23:42,399 --> 00:23:45,453 DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA. THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR 696 00:23:45,455 --> 00:23:47,330 KILLING IN SYRIA. THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS 697 00:23:47,333 --> 00:23:48,349 THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA. 698 00:23:48,351 --> 00:23:50,387 MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA. >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER 699 00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:52,615 IN THAT AREA. >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE 700 00:23:52,617 --> 00:23:54,271 >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. 701 00:23:54,273 --> 00:23:56,244 HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH 702 00:23:56,246 --> 00:23:58,282 OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN 703 00:23:58,284 --> 00:23:58,696 HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING. 704 00:23:58,697 --> 00:24:00,096 AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING. 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AT PBS.ORG/"WASHINGTON WEEK" WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL 714 00:24:16,906 --> 00:24:19,864 AT PBS.ORG/"WASHINGTON WEEK" WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN 715 00:24:19,866 --> 00:24:21,074 WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG 716 00:24:21,076 --> 00:24:22,825 STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG AND EXCITING NEWS. 717 00:24:22,826 --> 00:24:24,798 AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG AND EXCITING NEWS. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. 718 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,786 AND EXCITING NEWS. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE 719 00:24:25,788 --> 00:24:27,854 >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS 720 00:24:27,856 --> 00:24:29,797 COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE 721 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:31,707 PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN 722 00:24:31,709 --> 00:24:33,617 HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE 723 00:24:33,619 --> 00:24:35,590 TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION. 724 00:24:35,592 --> 00:24:36,736 IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION. ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY 725 00:24:36,738 --> 00:24:37,118 ATTENTION. ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES. 726 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,678 ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES. HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE 727 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,555 DISCOVERIES. HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. 728 00:24:40,558 --> 00:24:41,734 HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THAT'S TOMORROW. 729 00:24:41,736 --> 00:24:42,021 AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THAT'S TOMORROW. AGAIN? 730 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,567 THAT'S TOMORROW. AGAIN? GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS 731 00:24:44,569 --> 00:24:46,541 AGAIN? GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND 732 00:24:46,543 --> 00:24:46,858 GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. 733 00:24:46,861 --> 00:24:48,419 HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR 734 00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:49,374 SUNDAYS. CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR THE EXACT TIME. 735 00:24:49,375 --> 00:24:52,334 CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR THE EXACT TIME. AND KEEP YOUR DIAL ON PBS 736 00:24:52,336 --> 00:24:54,308 THE EXACT TIME. 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