WEBVTT 01:19.680 --> 01:20.823 align:start BALL, AT THE PRESIDENT'S APPEAL FOR ACTION IN SYRIA. WHAT NEXT? 01:20.825 --> 01:23.657 align:start FOR ACTION IN SYRIA. WHAT NEXT? TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- 01:23.659 --> 01:26.713 align:start WHAT NEXT? TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE 01:26.715 --> 01:29.642 align:start TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN 01:29.643 --> 01:31.742 align:start >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. 01:31.744 --> 01:33.812 align:start FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT 01:33.814 --> 01:34.639 align:start EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION. I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR. 01:34.641 --> 01:36.581 align:start I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR. GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR 01:36.583 --> 01:38.587 align:start START A WAR. GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE 01:38.589 --> 01:39.573 align:start GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. 01:39.575 --> 01:41.642 align:start INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT 01:41.644 --> 01:42.597 align:start AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. 01:42.599 --> 01:44.571 align:start >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN 01:44.573 --> 01:45.653 align:start ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR. GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. 01:45.655 --> 01:47.532 align:start GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS 01:47.534 --> 01:50.556 align:start OUT ON CAPITOL HILL. >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY 01:50.558 --> 01:54.471 align:start >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN 01:54.473 --> 01:55.458 align:start THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT 01:55.460 --> 01:57.496 align:start TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT 01:57.498 --> 01:59.246 align:start OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED. 01:59.248 --> 02:01.220 align:start THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED. >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING 02:01.222 --> 02:03.193 align:start GOING TO BE TOLERATED. >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD 02:03.195 --> 02:05.167 align:start >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF 02:05.169 --> 02:08.287 align:start THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS 02:08.289 --> 02:11.088 align:start PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY 02:11.090 --> 02:15.163 align:start THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE 02:15.165 --> 02:17.041 align:start DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY. 02:17.043 --> 02:18.155 align:start COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY. GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES 02:18.157 --> 02:19.906 align:start OR NATIONAL SECURITY. GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO 02:19.908 --> 02:22.166 align:start GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL 02:22.168 --> 02:22.516 align:start FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS. 02:22.518 --> 02:23.185 align:start FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS. >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY 02:23.187 --> 02:25.063 align:start QUESTIONS. >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE. 02:25.065 --> 02:25.668 align:start >> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE. THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S 02:25.669 --> 02:27.928 align:start THE LINE. THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. 02:27.930 --> 02:28.883 align:start THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S 02:28.885 --> 02:30.028 align:start CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE. AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE 02:30.030 --> 02:31.302 align:start AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO 02:31.304 --> 02:34.008 align:start CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE 02:34.010 --> 02:34.772 align:start BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE 02:34.774 --> 02:35.727 align:start THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT. 02:35.729 --> 02:37.701 align:start INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT. GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE 02:37.703 --> 02:39.675 align:start IMPORTANT. GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? 02:39.677 --> 02:41.902 align:start GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS 02:41.904 --> 02:45.913 align:start PUBLIC BE PERSUADED? COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON 02:45.915 --> 02:48.683 align:start COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS 02:48.685 --> 02:51.771 align:start OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON 02:51.773 --> 02:53.840 align:start OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE 02:53.842 --> 02:54.286 align:start NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." 02:54.288 --> 02:57.501 align:start POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND 02:57.503 --> 02:58.551 align:start NEW YORK TIMES." >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS. 02:58.553 --> 03:01.480 align:start >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS. COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. 03:01.482 --> 03:04.441 align:start ANALYSIS. COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, 03:04.443 --> 03:05.968 align:start COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS. LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH 03:05.970 --> 03:06.415 align:start LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL." 03:06.415 --> 03:06.700 align:start ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL. 03:06.702 --> 03:08.387 align:start WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL. GWEN: GOOD EVENING. 03:08.388 --> 03:10.519 align:start IFILL. GWEN: GOOD EVENING. THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK 03:10.522 --> 03:11.188 align:start GWEN: GOOD EVENING. THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A 03:11.190 --> 03:12.270 align:start THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. 03:12.271 --> 03:14.021 align:start FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS 03:14.023 --> 03:15.963 align:start CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO 03:15.964 --> 03:19.115 align:start THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH 03:19.117 --> 03:21.025 align:start DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR 03:21.027 --> 03:23.125 align:start STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST 03:23.127 --> 03:24.940 align:start PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. 03:24.942 --> 03:26.277 align:start USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK 03:26.279 --> 03:26.945 align:start HIS OWN PEOPLE. THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP. 03:26.946 --> 03:28.951 align:start THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP. AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH 03:28.953 --> 03:30.988 align:start HIM UP. AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS 03:30.990 --> 03:32.834 align:start AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD. 03:32.836 --> 03:35.253 align:start PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD. >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE 03:35.255 --> 03:36.781 align:start CLIMBED ONBOARD. >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK 03:36.783 --> 03:38.851 align:start >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO 03:38.853 --> 03:40.920 align:start THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A 03:40.922 --> 03:43.817 align:start THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER. 03:43.819 --> 03:44.867 align:start BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER. >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD 03:44.869 --> 03:45.250 align:start PAPER TIGER. >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE. 03:45.252 --> 03:47.860 align:start >> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE. AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR 03:47.862 --> 03:49.928 align:start AND STRIKE. AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK 03:49.930 --> 03:50.629 align:start AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES. 03:50.631 --> 03:52.698 align:start TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR 03:52.699 --> 03:53.940 align:start MISSILES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. 03:53.942 --> 03:55.595 align:start GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S 03:55.597 --> 03:58.587 align:start CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL. >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY 03:58.588 --> 04:00.560 align:start >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST 04:00.563 --> 04:02.566 align:start INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND 04:02.568 --> 04:03.776 align:start OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL 04:03.778 --> 04:04.507 align:start EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF 04:04.510 --> 04:05.495 align:start CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION. 04:05.497 --> 04:07.532 align:start AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION. GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS 04:07.534 --> 04:10.524 align:start INACTION. GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO 04:10.527 --> 04:11.702 align:start GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN 04:11.703 --> 04:12.084 align:start OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED. 04:12.087 --> 04:12.753 align:start CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED. >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT 04:12.754 --> 04:13.580 align:start UNCONVINCED. >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. 04:13.583 --> 04:16.541 align:start >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, 04:16.542 --> 04:17.560 align:start OUR PROBLEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. 04:17.561 --> 04:19.501 align:start IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A 04:19.503 --> 04:20.871 align:start IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS. IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, 04:20.873 --> 04:22.303 align:start IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. 04:22.304 --> 04:24.276 align:start THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US 04:24.278 --> 04:25.582 align:start THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT 04:25.583 --> 04:29.275 align:start >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE 04:29.276 --> 04:34.272 align:start HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET 04:34.274 --> 04:36.246 align:start IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A 04:36.247 --> 04:37.072 align:start R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION. 04:37.075 --> 04:39.174 align:start DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION. GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. 04:39.177 --> 04:41.212 align:start MILITARY ACTION. GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? 04:41.214 --> 04:43.217 align:start GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT. WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO 04:43.219 --> 04:45.063 align:start WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT? >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE 04:45.066 --> 04:46.974 align:start >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 04:46.975 --> 04:49.296 align:start THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER 04:49.299 --> 04:50.920 align:start "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. 04:50.923 --> 04:52.895 align:start 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO 04:52.897 --> 04:54.295 align:start NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT 04:54.296 --> 04:57.001 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO 04:57.002 --> 04:58.115 align:start DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE 04:58.116 --> 04:58.401 align:start COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE. 04:58.403 --> 05:00.885 align:start VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE. THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. 05:00.887 --> 05:03.208 align:start HOUSE. THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT 05:03.211 --> 05:05.914 align:start THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217. IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. 05:05.917 --> 05:07.951 align:start IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. 05:07.953 --> 05:09.830 align:start JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED. FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A 05:09.831 --> 05:10.944 align:start FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM. ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. 05:10.945 --> 05:13.840 align:start ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. YOU TALK TO SENIOR 05:13.843 --> 05:14.796 align:start MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED. YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE 05:14.798 --> 05:16.929 align:start YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE 05:16.931 --> 05:17.756 align:start CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND 05:17.757 --> 05:22.786 align:start TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY 05:22.788 --> 05:26.636 align:start HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON 05:26.639 --> 05:30.585 align:start HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE 05:30.586 --> 05:33.736 align:start LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME 05:33.737 --> 05:37.652 align:start MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED 05:37.654 --> 05:39.530 align:start MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE 05:39.532 --> 05:39.816 align:start REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. 05:39.818 --> 05:41.566 align:start THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S 05:41.569 --> 05:42.777 align:start WEEK. THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES 05:42.778 --> 05:45.419 align:start THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE 05:45.421 --> 05:46.279 align:start THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER 05:46.281 --> 05:47.360 align:start AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS. 05:47.363 --> 05:50.481 align:start PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS. GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS 05:50.483 --> 05:52.391 align:start IN THE COMING DAYS. GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN 05:52.392 --> 05:54.300 align:start GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE 05:54.303 --> 05:56.370 align:start LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE 05:56.372 --> 05:57.389 align:start SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE 05:57.391 --> 06:00.253 align:start PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. 06:00.256 --> 06:02.067 align:start THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH 06:02.069 --> 06:04.296 align:start FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT. >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO 06:04.298 --> 06:06.334 align:start >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY 06:06.335 --> 06:08.211 align:start BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE 06:08.213 --> 06:09.326 align:start ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY 06:09.328 --> 06:10.376 align:start SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR 06:10.378 --> 06:10.759 align:start THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP. 06:10.761 --> 06:12.923 align:start FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP. THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND 06:12.925 --> 06:15.183 align:start LEADERSHIP. THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND 06:15.186 --> 06:15.947 align:start THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY 06:15.949 --> 06:17.061 align:start MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. 06:17.063 --> 06:19.925 align:start SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE 06:19.928 --> 06:22.058 align:start TRANSLATE INTO VOTES. ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN 06:22.061 --> 06:25.911 align:start ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN 06:25.913 --> 06:30.941 align:start NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER 06:30.942 --> 06:32.819 align:start AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. 06:32.821 --> 06:33.869 align:start DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT 06:33.871 --> 06:35.874 align:start PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL. THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' 06:35.877 --> 06:36.798 align:start THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE 06:36.800 --> 06:37.975 align:start THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF 06:37.978 --> 06:39.694 align:start PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET 06:39.697 --> 06:40.841 align:start GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED. 06:40.842 --> 06:43.801 align:start THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED. AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE 06:43.803 --> 06:50.581 align:start THIS PASSED. AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY 06:50.583 --> 06:53.637 align:start AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND 06:53.638 --> 06:54.656 align:start THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING 06:54.658 --> 06:57.490 align:start IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. 06:57.490 --> 06:59.526 align:start TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO 06:59.527 --> 07:01.563 align:start TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO. AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN 07:01.566 --> 07:02.582 align:start AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS 07:02.585 --> 07:04.461 align:start HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S 07:04.463 --> 07:06.625 align:start OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF 07:06.627 --> 07:06.912 align:start ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES. 07:06.914 --> 07:07.580 align:start GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS 07:07.581 --> 07:09.426 align:start VOTES. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN 07:09.428 --> 07:11.623 align:start GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY 07:11.626 --> 07:12.705 align:start SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR 07:12.707 --> 07:15.539 align:start OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. 07:15.540 --> 07:17.289 align:start THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS 07:17.292 --> 07:18.276 align:start ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE? 07:18.278 --> 07:20.441 align:start WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE? WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE 07:20.443 --> 07:21.268 align:start DEBATE? WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR? 07:21.270 --> 07:23.529 align:start WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR? >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT 07:23.530 --> 07:25.374 align:start AIR? >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT 07:25.377 --> 07:25.661 align:start >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT. 07:25.662 --> 07:27.381 align:start DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT. EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO 07:27.382 --> 07:28.431 align:start DO IT. EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS 07:28.433 --> 07:30.118 align:start EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME. 07:30.121 --> 07:33.174 align:start HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME. OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET 07:33.175 --> 07:34.383 align:start MONEY AT HOME. OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN 07:34.386 --> 07:35.244 align:start OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION. 07:35.245 --> 07:39.126 align:start OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION. AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN 07:39.129 --> 07:41.101 align:start THE REGION. AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON. 07:41.102 --> 07:42.246 align:start AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON. I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR 07:42.248 --> 07:47.308 align:start THE REASON. I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE 07:47.310 --> 07:50.205 align:start I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING 07:50.206 --> 07:51.255 align:start PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO 07:51.256 --> 07:51.891 align:start EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS. 07:51.894 --> 07:53.930 align:start WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS. I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE 07:53.930 --> 07:56.825 align:start THIS. I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 07:56.828 --> 07:57.939 align:start I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE. 07:57.942 --> 08:00.710 align:start OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE. HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 08:00.711 --> 08:01.728 align:start 100 TO ONE. HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1. 08:01.731 --> 08:02.714 align:start HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1. PEOPLE AGAINST. 08:02.717 --> 08:04.689 align:start 800-1. PEOPLE AGAINST. WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE 08:04.691 --> 08:05.708 align:start PEOPLE AGAINST. WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY? 08:05.709 --> 08:07.873 align:start WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY? PEOPLE THINK IT'S 08:07.874 --> 08:08.286 align:start MAJORITY? PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE. 08:08.287 --> 08:08.985 align:start PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE 08:08.988 --> 08:10.036 align:start UNPREDICTABLE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS 08:10.038 --> 08:12.615 align:start NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED 08:12.616 --> 08:15.735 align:start PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL 08:15.736 --> 08:18.663 align:start BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. 08:18.666 --> 08:20.732 align:start STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS 08:20.735 --> 08:23.694 align:start END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA. THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR 08:23.695 --> 08:26.495 align:start THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY 08:26.497 --> 08:27.672 align:start CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE. 08:27.675 --> 08:30.505 align:start CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET 08:30.506 --> 08:32.448 align:start THEIR FIERCE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, 08:32.450 --> 08:35.408 align:start THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK. 08:35.409 --> 08:37.604 align:start THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK. GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE 08:37.606 --> 08:39.546 align:start THAT'S A BIG TASK. GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS 08:39.547 --> 08:39.833 align:start GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL. 08:39.835 --> 08:41.424 align:start IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES 08:41.426 --> 08:44.449 align:start REAL. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN 08:44.450 --> 08:47.250 align:start WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM 08:47.252 --> 08:49.415 align:start THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? 08:49.416 --> 08:52.280 align:start KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST 08:52.281 --> 08:53.170 align:start "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN? >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. 08:53.173 --> 08:54.540 align:start >> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE 08:54.541 --> 08:57.118 align:start THE REVERSE OF IRAQ. IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD 08:57.120 --> 08:59.379 align:start IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE 08:59.379 --> 09:01.255 align:start THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE? 09:01.258 --> 09:02.402 align:start USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE? HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE 09:02.405 --> 09:03.071 align:start ACTUALLY THERE? HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS. 09:03.072 --> 09:05.076 align:start HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS. WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF 09:05.078 --> 09:08.133 align:start WERE WEAPONS. WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE 09:08.135 --> 09:09.024 align:start WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL 09:09.026 --> 09:10.043 align:start PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS. 09:10.044 --> 09:12.144 align:start ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS. THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH 09:12.145 --> 09:14.020 align:start ATTACKS. THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. 09:14.023 --> 09:16.153 align:start THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT 09:16.156 --> 09:18.192 align:start PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE. THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT 09:18.194 --> 09:19.497 align:start THE U.N. INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE 09:19.499 --> 09:21.025 align:start YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. 09:21.027 --> 09:21.884 align:start THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS. 09:21.886 --> 09:23.858 align:start THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS. WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY 09:23.859 --> 09:25.322 align:start HAS. WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU 09:25.325 --> 09:27.009 align:start WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE 09:27.010 --> 09:29.874 align:start USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, 09:29.876 --> 09:32.803 align:start HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN 09:32.805 --> 09:34.076 align:start AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING 09:34.078 --> 09:34.808 align:start WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU. 09:34.811 --> 09:36.114 align:start GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN 09:36.115 --> 09:36.750 align:start TO YOU. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT. 09:36.752 --> 09:38.915 align:start THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT. THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE 09:38.917 --> 09:42.735 align:start DO IT. THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN 09:42.737 --> 09:43.785 align:start THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF 09:43.787 --> 09:44.804 align:start THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN 09:44.806 --> 09:46.683 align:start BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON 09:46.685 --> 09:47.860 align:start PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE 09:47.861 --> 09:50.534 align:start THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES 09:50.535 --> 09:51.999 align:start ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE 09:52.000 --> 09:52.379 align:start AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT. 09:52.382 --> 09:54.736 align:start HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE 09:54.737 --> 09:57.474 align:start GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE 09:57.475 --> 09:59.479 align:start AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE 09:59.481 --> 10:02.344 align:start ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT 10:02.346 --> 10:04.382 align:start NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS 10:04.383 --> 10:05.559 align:start KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN 10:05.561 --> 10:07.215 align:start OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER 10:07.216 --> 10:08.297 align:start PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT. 10:08.299 --> 10:09.442 align:start TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE 10:09.445 --> 10:11.321 align:start THE FACT. GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS 10:11.323 --> 10:13.327 align:start GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID 10:13.329 --> 10:15.331 align:start THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE 10:15.334 --> 10:18.134 align:start SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET 10:18.135 --> 10:20.170 align:start IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED 10:20.172 --> 10:21.188 align:start THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE. 10:21.191 --> 10:23.099 align:start HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A 10:23.101 --> 10:24.150 align:start ABOUT HIS RED LINE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE. 10:24.152 --> 10:25.264 align:start >> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. 10:25.266 --> 10:28.288 align:start RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN 10:28.290 --> 10:30.134 align:start THE WORLD SET A RED LINE. THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF 10:30.136 --> 10:33.889 align:start THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE 10:33.892 --> 10:39.939 align:start GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE 10:39.941 --> 10:41.785 align:start THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY 10:41.787 --> 10:43.854 align:start -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN 10:43.856 --> 10:45.860 align:start ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. 10:45.861 --> 10:48.819 align:start FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT 10:48.822 --> 10:49.712 align:start COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR. CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY. 10:49.713 --> 10:51.877 align:start CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY. GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS 10:51.878 --> 10:52.927 align:start RATIFYED THAT TREATY. GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE 10:52.928 --> 10:54.678 align:start GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE 10:54.680 --> 10:56.652 align:start QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS 10:56.653 --> 10:59.611 align:start CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS 10:59.614 --> 11:00.662 align:start RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES. 11:00.665 --> 11:01.840 align:start CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES. IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING 11:01.841 --> 11:02.923 align:start PROMISES. IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? 11:02.925 --> 11:03.336 align:start IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? >> I THINK SO. 11:03.339 --> 11:04.642 align:start AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL? >> I THINK SO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM 11:04.643 --> 11:06.647 align:start >> I THINK SO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE 11:06.649 --> 11:07.634 align:start ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT 11:07.636 --> 11:09.702 align:start LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE 11:09.705 --> 11:11.709 align:start HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF 11:11.710 --> 11:13.746 align:start OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL 11:13.747 --> 11:14.096 align:start THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. 11:14.098 --> 11:14.701 align:start SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN 11:14.702 --> 11:15.591 align:start COMMUNITY. IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD 11:15.594 --> 11:19.603 align:start IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO 11:19.605 --> 11:19.953 align:start INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS. 11:19.955 --> 11:21.417 align:start BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS. THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN 11:21.420 --> 11:23.678 align:start CONGRESS. THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE 11:23.680 --> 11:24.410 align:start THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY 11:24.412 --> 11:26.574 align:start ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT 11:26.576 --> 11:26.957 align:start UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT. 11:26.958 --> 11:30.267 align:start INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT. THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL 11:30.269 --> 11:31.572 align:start THIS POINT. THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON 11:31.574 --> 11:34.246 align:start THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T 11:34.249 --> 11:36.188 align:start FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. 11:36.190 --> 11:38.258 align:start INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE 11:38.259 --> 11:43.319 align:start NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT 11:43.321 --> 11:45.069 align:start BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? 11:45.070 --> 11:47.042 align:start NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. 11:47.045 --> 11:49.112 align:start AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND? AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED 11:49.115 --> 11:51.244 align:start AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS. >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 11:51.247 --> 11:54.142 align:start >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED 11:54.143 --> 11:56.179 align:start LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, 11:56.181 --> 11:58.152 align:start 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ 11:58.155 --> 11:59.013 align:start OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR. 11:59.014 --> 12:00.922 align:start INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR. THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED 12:00.925 --> 12:03.214 align:start WAR. THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND 12:03.215 --> 12:04.902 align:start THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE 12:04.904 --> 12:06.048 align:start LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. 12:06.050 --> 12:07.958 align:start SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN 12:07.959 --> 12:09.867 align:start CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE. SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. 12:09.870 --> 12:12.128 align:start SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE 12:12.130 --> 12:12.892 align:start BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT. YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID. 12:12.894 --> 12:14.897 align:start YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID. HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS 12:14.898 --> 12:16.012 align:start WHY HE DID. HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. 12:16.013 --> 12:17.826 align:start HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT 12:17.828 --> 12:19.768 align:start DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY. HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S 12:19.769 --> 12:21.072 align:start HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. 12:21.075 --> 12:22.760 align:start OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF 12:22.762 --> 12:25.721 align:start NUCLEAR STOCKPILES. WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES 12:25.723 --> 12:27.789 align:start WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS 12:27.791 --> 12:29.572 align:start AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. 12:29.574 --> 12:31.642 align:start BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED 12:31.644 --> 12:33.837 align:start AND IT'S NOT DONE YET. THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE 12:33.840 --> 12:35.589 align:start THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND 12:35.591 --> 12:37.657 align:start RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD 12:37.660 --> 12:38.804 align:start NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. 12:38.806 --> 12:40.554 align:start THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES 12:40.556 --> 12:42.464 align:start CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES. HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. 12:42.466 --> 12:44.471 align:start HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT 12:44.473 --> 12:46.572 align:start THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN 12:46.573 --> 12:48.577 align:start CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY 12:48.578 --> 12:51.601 align:start SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN 12:51.603 --> 12:53.479 align:start EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF 12:53.481 --> 12:55.389 align:start NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT 12:55.390 --> 12:58.476 align:start REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T 12:58.479 --> 13:00.323 align:start THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET 13:00.325 --> 13:02.233 align:start MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S. DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE 13:02.235 --> 13:05.226 align:start INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- 13:05.228 --> 13:07.421 align:start LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE 13:07.424 --> 13:09.237 align:start QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. 13:09.239 --> 13:10.382 align:start WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE 13:10.383 --> 13:12.197 align:start IN THE MIDDLE EAST. >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF 13:12.199 --> 13:13.342 align:start >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS. 13:13.345 --> 13:15.348 align:start NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW 13:15.350 --> 13:17.258 align:start CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL 13:17.259 --> 13:17.543 align:start IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD. 13:17.546 --> 13:18.499 align:start MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD. IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS 13:18.501 --> 13:22.033 align:start WORLD. IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR 13:22.034 --> 13:24.326 align:start IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS 13:24.328 --> 13:26.012 align:start IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER. 13:26.014 --> 13:29.037 align:start OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER. THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND 13:29.038 --> 13:31.996 align:start GET LOOSER. THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED 13:31.999 --> 13:34.003 align:start THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE. 13:34.004 --> 13:35.085 align:start AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE. THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND 13:35.087 --> 13:36.103 align:start THEY COULD COME HERE. THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S 13:36.105 --> 13:37.122 align:start THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH. 13:37.124 --> 13:39.032 align:start EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH. IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT 13:39.034 --> 13:40.147 align:start ALSO A STRETCH. IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF 13:40.148 --> 13:41.037 align:start IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. 13:41.040 --> 13:42.979 align:start DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE 13:42.981 --> 13:46.036 align:start THE SECURITY OFMERICANS. WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE 13:46.037 --> 13:47.850 align:start WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A 13:47.852 --> 13:49.792 align:start IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END 13:49.793 --> 13:52.751 align:start MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE 13:52.754 --> 13:55.649 align:start STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. 13:55.650 --> 13:57.909 align:start WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING 13:57.911 --> 13:58.832 align:start REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH. >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. 13:58.833 --> 14:01.761 align:start >> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE 14:01.763 --> 14:03.671 align:start CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY. IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT 14:03.672 --> 14:04.530 align:start IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL. 14:04.533 --> 14:07.777 align:start SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL. GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF 14:07.779 --> 14:08.191 align:start IS CHEMICAL. GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT. 14:08.193 --> 14:09.687 align:start GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT. BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS 14:09.689 --> 14:10.038 align:start THIS ARGUMENT. BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS? 14:10.039 --> 14:12.456 align:start BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS? >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING 14:12.459 --> 14:14.653 align:start POLITICS? >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS 14:14.655 --> 14:16.468 align:start >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL 14:16.469 --> 14:17.614 align:start THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING. 14:17.615 --> 14:19.524 align:start ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING. AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. 14:19.525 --> 14:21.784 align:start SHEETS EVERY MORNING. AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM 14:21.786 --> 14:23.503 align:start AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN. JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A 14:23.505 --> 14:26.463 align:start JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR 14:26.464 --> 14:27.355 align:start THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 14:27.357 --> 14:28.660 align:start CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS 14:28.662 --> 14:31.334 align:start BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO 14:31.335 --> 14:33.339 align:start 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA. 14:33.342 --> 14:36.268 align:start I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA. HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% 14:36.270 --> 14:37.414 align:start GOING INTO SYRIA. HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. 14:37.416 --> 14:39.197 align:start HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 14:39.199 --> 14:43.272 align:start AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING. REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED 14:43.273 --> 14:47.346 align:start REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY 14:47.347 --> 14:47.664 align:start 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION. 14:47.667 --> 14:50.116 align:start TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION. BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN 14:50.118 --> 14:53.967 align:start ACTION. BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. 14:53.969 --> 14:57.023 align:start BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 14:57.025 --> 15:01.001 align:start VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL. -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. 15:01.004 --> 15:03.167 align:start -- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE. 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL 15:03.169 --> 15:05.046 align:start 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT. GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? 15:05.047 --> 15:05.427 align:start GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? >> VERY FEW. 15:05.428 --> 15:06.987 align:start SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING? >> VERY FEW. >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. 15:06.989 --> 15:09.852 align:start >> VERY FEW. >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO 15:09.854 --> 15:11.793 align:start >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT. AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. 15:11.794 --> 15:13.895 align:start AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR 15:13.897 --> 15:14.849 align:start SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS. HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST 15:14.852 --> 15:16.091 align:start HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS. 15:16.092 --> 15:20.898 align:start JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS. WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO 15:20.899 --> 15:23.031 align:start POPULAR THINGS. WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I 15:23.032 --> 15:24.782 align:start WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE 15:24.784 --> 15:27.042 align:start MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS 15:27.044 --> 15:27.901 align:start THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL. 15:27.903 --> 15:29.779 align:start MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST 15:29.781 --> 15:30.670 align:start ON CAPITOL HILL. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE. 15:30.673 --> 15:32.645 align:start I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS 15:32.647 --> 15:33.822 align:start EFFECTIVE. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH 15:33.824 --> 15:34.236 align:start THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL. 15:34.237 --> 15:37.577 align:start HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL. THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF 15:37.580 --> 15:39.712 align:start CAPITOL HILL. THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG 15:39.713 --> 15:41.494 align:start THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS. 15:41.496 --> 15:43.627 align:start POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST 15:43.629 --> 15:45.759 align:start OR TRUST RHYTHMS. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED 15:45.761 --> 15:48.370 align:start THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO 15:48.372 --> 15:49.452 align:start RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM. 15:49.454 --> 15:52.540 align:start CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM. GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL 15:52.542 --> 15:55.469 align:start CORRAL THEM. GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T 15:55.471 --> 15:57.474 align:start GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. 15:57.476 --> 15:59.289 align:start ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE 15:59.290 --> 16:00.626 align:start HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS. NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. 16:00.628 --> 16:02.344 align:start NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE 16:02.346 --> 16:06.324 align:start PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL 16:06.325 --> 16:08.330 align:start LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. 16:08.332 --> 16:11.450 align:start PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A 16:11.451 --> 16:12.341 align:start ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG. >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US 16:12.343 --> 16:14.441 align:start >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF 16:14.443 --> 16:18.260 align:start TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN 16:18.262 --> 16:18.580 align:start THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA. 16:18.582 --> 16:20.076 align:start PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA. IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON 16:20.077 --> 16:23.068 align:start RWANDA. IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD 16:23.069 --> 16:27.938 align:start IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? 16:27.940 --> 16:29.085 align:start RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? -- RWANDNDND 16:29.086 --> 16:34.878 align:start WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE? -- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY 16:34.880 --> 16:36.947 align:start -- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING 16:36.948 --> 16:38.189 align:start I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL 16:38.191 --> 16:39.206 align:start GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING 16:39.209 --> 16:39.557 align:start CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT. 16:39.559 --> 16:42.932 align:start ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT. >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN 16:42.934 --> 16:43.887 align:start ARGUMENT. >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM 16:43.889 --> 16:45.733 align:start >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 16:45.735 --> 16:47.865 align:start INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM 16:47.868 --> 16:50.763 align:start BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF 16:50.765 --> 16:52.673 align:start PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS 16:52.675 --> 16:54.837 align:start CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE 16:54.839 --> 16:56.652 align:start ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S 16:56.654 --> 16:58.881 align:start LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF 16:58.882 --> 17:01.617 align:start ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN 17:01.620 --> 17:02.955 align:start NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL 17:02.956 --> 17:04.706 align:start THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON 17:04.708 --> 17:05.025 align:start UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND. 17:05.026 --> 17:09.640 align:start ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND. HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 17:09.642 --> 17:12.505 align:start GROUND. HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE 17:12.507 --> 17:14.670 align:start HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF 17:14.671 --> 17:16.739 align:start 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE 17:16.741 --> 17:19.349 align:start ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL 17:19.351 --> 17:20.336 align:start THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. 17:20.338 --> 17:22.374 align:start REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC 17:22.376 --> 17:23.550 align:start WEAPONS. THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT 17:23.553 --> 17:25.366 align:start THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS 17:25.367 --> 17:28.231 align:start DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO 17:28.233 --> 17:31.286 align:start BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT 17:31.288 --> 17:33.356 align:start A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID 17:33.357 --> 17:34.183 align:start TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD. 17:34.186 --> 17:35.552 align:start ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE 17:35.554 --> 17:37.240 align:start TO ASOD. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK 17:37.242 --> 17:38.385 align:start AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE 17:38.387 --> 17:41.123 align:start HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT 17:41.124 --> 17:42.396 align:start FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE 17:42.398 --> 17:43.191 align:start I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER? 17:43.194 --> 17:45.389 align:start HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER? GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY 17:45.391 --> 17:47.012 align:start DAY AFTER? GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON. 17:47.014 --> 17:48.412 align:start GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON. >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND 17:48.414 --> 17:50.259 align:start SLOPE THING GOING ON. >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT. 17:50.261 --> 17:52.074 align:start >> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT. HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE 17:52.076 --> 17:53.952 align:start THE DISCONNECT. HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE 17:53.953 --> 17:56.976 align:start HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO 17:56.978 --> 17:58.090 align:start WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS 17:58.092 --> 17:58.822 align:start OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY. 17:58.824 --> 18:02.037 align:start CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY. GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME 18:02.039 --> 18:05.124 align:start STRATEGY. GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN 18:05.127 --> 18:05.699 align:start GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. 18:05.700 --> 18:07.990 align:start CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE 18:07.992 --> 18:09.996 align:start JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS. >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS 18:09.997 --> 18:13.784 align:start >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL 18:13.786 --> 18:15.821 align:start COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION 18:15.823 --> 18:17.826 align:start IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT 18:17.828 --> 18:19.036 align:start COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY 18:19.038 --> 18:19.705 align:start EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT. 18:19.707 --> 18:22.728 align:start WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT. THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO 18:22.731 --> 18:23.843 align:start TWEENGED IT. THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. 18:23.845 --> 18:25.912 align:start THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. THAT'S DIFFERENT. 18:25.914 --> 18:27.886 align:start DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY. THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS 18:27.888 --> 18:29.635 align:start THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF 18:29.638 --> 18:30.528 align:start THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER. 18:30.530 --> 18:32.789 align:start AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER. WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE 18:32.790 --> 18:34.602 align:start POWER. WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE 18:34.604 --> 18:35.654 align:start WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE. 18:35.655 --> 18:37.690 align:start ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE. IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE 18:37.692 --> 18:40.460 align:start SLIPLY SLOPE. IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. 18:40.461 --> 18:42.529 align:start IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO 18:42.531 --> 18:43.644 align:start TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF. GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN 18:43.646 --> 18:45.362 align:start GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, 18:45.364 --> 18:48.419 align:start THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, 18:48.420 --> 18:50.519 align:start KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT 18:50.521 --> 18:52.334 align:start SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. 18:52.336 --> 18:53.320 align:start WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. LET'S LISTEN. 18:53.321 --> 18:56.312 align:start EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO. LET'S LISTEN. >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, 18:56.315 --> 18:58.255 align:start LET'S LISTEN. >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT 18:58.257 --> 19:03.316 align:start >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A 19:03.318 --> 19:06.339 align:start FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING 19:06.342 --> 19:12.166 align:start HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF 19:12.167 --> 19:13.407 align:start CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE 19:13.409 --> 19:16.240 align:start SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR 19:16.242 --> 19:17.099 align:start DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE 19:17.102 --> 19:18.469 align:start TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 19:18.471 --> 19:20.251 align:start MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I 19:20.253 --> 19:22.002 align:start PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT 19:22.004 --> 19:24.199 align:start TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY 19:24.200 --> 19:27.031 align:start DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO 19:27.033 --> 19:28.241 align:start OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS 19:28.243 --> 19:30.088 align:start DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN. 19:30.089 --> 19:32.220 align:start LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN. GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR 19:32.222 --> 19:33.971 align:start TIGHT AS WE CAN. GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN. 19:33.973 --> 19:35.976 align:start GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN. >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR 19:35.978 --> 19:37.123 align:start AND SHUT IT AGAIN. >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. 19:37.125 --> 19:38.938 align:start >> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP 19:38.940 --> 19:40.051 align:start HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT. THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS 19:40.053 --> 19:41.198 align:start THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE 19:41.200 --> 19:44.890 align:start PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO 19:44.892 --> 19:46.864 align:start COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A 19:46.866 --> 19:48.074 align:start SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO 19:48.076 --> 19:48.805 align:start U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT. 19:48.807 --> 19:50.939 align:start RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT. IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, 19:50.941 --> 19:52.912 align:start BUT THAT'S IT. IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE 19:52.913 --> 19:55.809 align:start IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. 19:55.811 --> 19:58.609 align:start YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, 19:58.612 --> 20:00.615 align:start MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES. THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS 20:00.617 --> 20:04.626 align:start THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. 20:04.627 --> 20:05.836 align:start CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE 20:05.838 --> 20:07.714 align:start -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY. >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE 20:07.716 --> 20:09.879 align:start >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO 20:09.881 --> 20:11.725 align:start THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY 20:11.727 --> 20:12.713 align:start PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. 20:12.715 --> 20:15.004 align:start THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS 20:15.006 --> 20:15.736 align:start LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION. THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON 20:15.738 --> 20:18.601 align:start THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, 20:18.603 --> 20:20.384 align:start NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. 20:20.386 --> 20:24.650 align:start IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE 20:24.652 --> 20:25.000 align:start SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS. 20:25.002 --> 20:28.469 align:start HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR 20:28.472 --> 20:29.520 align:start HEARINGS. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. 20:29.522 --> 20:32.544 align:start HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE 20:32.546 --> 20:33.372 align:start MAKE A COMPELLING CASE. A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS 20:33.374 --> 20:35.345 align:start A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE 20:35.347 --> 20:36.650 align:start INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS 20:36.651 --> 20:37.319 align:start WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. 20:37.321 --> 20:39.198 align:start HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. >> -- AS WELL. 20:39.200 --> 20:40.660 align:start THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL. >> -- AS WELL. >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT 20:40.663 --> 20:43.240 align:start >> -- AS WELL. >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE 20:43.242 --> 20:45.150 align:start >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE 20:45.152 --> 20:46.137 align:start SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY. 20:46.139 --> 20:48.109 align:start HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY. JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND 20:48.112 --> 20:51.135 align:start TESTIMONY. JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF 20:51.137 --> 20:53.109 align:start JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON 20:53.111 --> 20:55.145 align:start ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO 20:55.147 --> 20:55.433 align:start HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH. 20:55.435 --> 20:57.310 align:start SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH. >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN 20:57.312 --> 20:58.264 align:start WATCH. >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE 20:58.267 --> 21:00.144 align:start >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE 21:00.145 --> 21:02.117 align:start THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP. 21:02.120 --> 21:03.263 align:start SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP. IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT 21:03.265 --> 21:03.581 align:start KERRY CAMP. IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING. 21:03.583 --> 21:06.192 align:start IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? 21:06.194 --> 21:08.960 align:start HEARING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S 21:08.963 --> 21:10.266 align:start WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW 21:10.268 --> 21:12.909 align:start IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION 21:12.911 --> 21:14.850 align:start VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. 21:14.852 --> 21:16.983 align:start OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING 21:16.985 --> 21:19.116 align:start LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO 21:19.118 --> 21:20.740 align:start TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING 21:20.741 --> 21:21.757 align:start THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS. 21:21.760 --> 21:23.828 align:start ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS. SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE 21:23.830 --> 21:25.705 align:start TO MISS. SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING 21:25.707 --> 21:27.775 align:start SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE 21:27.776 --> 21:28.825 align:start ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. 21:28.827 --> 21:30.640 align:start SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT 21:30.641 --> 21:32.836 align:start DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS. WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE 21:32.838 --> 21:33.949 align:start WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. 21:33.952 --> 21:36.593 align:start CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. GWEN: THEY DON'T DO 21:36.595 --> 21:38.630 align:start U.S. MILITARY AGAIN. GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. 21:38.632 --> 21:39.808 align:start GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE 21:39.810 --> 21:42.704 align:start HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER. >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA 21:42.706 --> 21:44.742 align:start >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI 21:44.744 --> 21:45.728 align:start SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS 21:45.731 --> 21:48.625 align:start BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY 21:48.626 --> 21:49.485 align:start AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE 21:49.487 --> 21:52.637 align:start CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE 21:52.639 --> 21:54.450 align:start BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT 21:54.451 --> 21:57.442 align:start PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I 21:57.445 --> 21:59.513 align:start IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO 21:59.515 --> 22:00.499 align:start FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE 22:00.501 --> 22:01.359 align:start CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND. 22:01.360 --> 22:03.523 align:start MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND. GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH 22:03.524 --> 22:04.414 align:start GROUND. GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT. 22:04.416 --> 22:05.432 align:start GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE 22:05.435 --> 22:07.279 align:start TUESDAY NIGHT. THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A 22:07.281 --> 22:08.648 align:start THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. 22:08.650 --> 22:10.335 align:start HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? 22:10.337 --> 22:11.290 align:start LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON 22:11.292 --> 22:13.678 align:start WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO? HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION 22:13.679 --> 22:14.092 align:start HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT? 22:14.094 --> 22:16.320 align:start HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT? >> VERY MUCH. 22:16.321 --> 22:17.211 align:start TUESDAY NIGHT? >> VERY MUCH. LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. 22:17.214 --> 22:20.204 align:start >> VERY MUCH. LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A 22:20.206 --> 22:22.209 align:start LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES. THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT 22:22.210 --> 22:24.279 align:start THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- 22:24.280 --> 22:25.520 align:start SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 22:25.522 --> 22:27.143 align:start THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL 22:27.145 --> 22:30.199 align:start HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF 22:30.200 --> 22:34.147 align:start AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON 22:34.149 --> 22:37.012 align:start WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI. 22:37.014 --> 22:40.195 align:start RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI. IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP 22:40.197 --> 22:40.513 align:start SWITCH OWENS SI. IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE. 22:40.515 --> 22:43.155 align:start IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE. THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT 22:43.157 --> 22:45.065 align:start KENZIE. THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION 22:45.067 --> 22:47.167 align:start THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT 22:47.169 --> 22:49.107 align:start MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE 22:49.110 --> 22:49.427 align:start AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS. 22:49.428 --> 22:53.024 align:start SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS. >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE 22:53.026 --> 22:53.978 align:start DAKOTAS. >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE 22:53.981 --> 22:57.958 align:start >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI 22:57.959 --> 22:59.104 align:start EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING 22:59.106 --> 23:00.822 align:start AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM 23:00.825 --> 23:01.873 align:start THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER. 23:01.875 --> 23:03.019 align:start BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER. THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE 23:03.021 --> 23:04.038 align:start TOGETHER. THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO 23:04.040 --> 23:04.929 align:start THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS. 23:04.931 --> 23:07.985 align:start PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS. MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS 23:07.986 --> 23:08.527 align:start FORM OPINIONS. MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. 23:08.529 --> 23:11.710 align:start MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS 23:11.710 --> 23:13.078 align:start CLASSIFIED BRIEFING. THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE 23:13.080 --> 23:15.689 align:start THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS 23:15.691 --> 23:17.948 align:start ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS 23:17.951 --> 23:18.649 align:start GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK. 23:18.651 --> 23:20.591 align:start TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK. >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- 23:20.594 --> 23:23.743 align:start NEXT WEEK. >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, 23:23.745 --> 23:25.684 align:start >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE 23:25.686 --> 23:27.467 align:start WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE 23:27.469 --> 23:31.510 align:start ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC 23:31.512 --> 23:34.502 align:start KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO 23:34.504 --> 23:35.424 align:start WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN. 23:35.427 --> 23:38.449 align:start DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A 23:38.451 --> 23:39.564 align:start INNOCENT CHILDREN. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS 23:39.566 --> 23:42.397 align:start THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA. 23:42.399 --> 23:45.453 align:start DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA. THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR 23:45.455 --> 23:47.330 align:start KILLING IN SYRIA. THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS 23:47.333 --> 23:48.349 align:start THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA. 23:48.351 --> 23:50.387 align:start MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA. >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER 23:50.389 --> 23:52.615 align:start IN THAT AREA. >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE 23:52.617 --> 23:54.271 align:start >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. 23:54.273 --> 23:56.244 align:start HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH 23:56.246 --> 23:58.282 align:start OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE. HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN 23:58.284 --> 23:58.696 align:start HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING. 23:58.697 --> 24:00.096 align:start AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING. GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE 24:00.098 --> 24:01.402 align:start UNCONVINCING. GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING 24:01.403 --> 24:03.216 align:start GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING BACK FROM RUSSIA TONIGHT. 24:03.218 --> 24:04.171 align:start PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING BACK FROM RUSSIA TONIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 24:04.173 --> 24:07.163 align:start BACK FROM RUSSIA TONIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE'RE DONE HERE FOR NOW BUT WE 24:07.164 --> 24:09.042 align:start THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE'RE DONE HERE FOR NOW BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE A COUPLE WAYS FOR 24:09.043 --> 24:11.111 align:start WE'RE DONE HERE FOR NOW BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE A COUPLE WAYS FOR YOU TO STAY PART OF THE 24:11.113 --> 24:11.524 align:start ALWAYS HAVE A COUPLE WAYS FOR YOU TO STAY PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 24:11.526 --> 24:13.498 align:start YOU TO STAY PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AT PBS.ORG/"WASHINGTON WEEK" 24:13.500 --> 24:16.904 align:start CONVERSATION. AT PBS.ORG/"WASHINGTON WEEK" WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL 24:16.906 --> 24:19.864 align:start AT PBS.ORG/"WASHINGTON WEEK" WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN 24:19.866 --> 24:21.074 align:start WHERE THE WEBCAST EXTRA WILL STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG 24:21.076 --> 24:22.825 align:start STREAM LIVE 8:30 P.M. EASTERN AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG AND EXCITING NEWS. 24:22.826 --> 24:24.798 align:start AND ALL WEEK -- WEEKEND LONG AND EXCITING NEWS. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. 24:24.800 --> 24:25.786 align:start AND EXCITING NEWS. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE 24:25.788 --> 24:27.854 align:start >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS 24:27.856 --> 24:29.797 align:start COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE 24:29.799 --> 24:31.707 align:start PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN 24:31.709 --> 24:33.617 align:start HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE 24:33.619 --> 24:35.590 align:start TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION. 24:35.592 --> 24:36.736 align:start IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION. ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY 24:36.738 --> 24:37.118 align:start ATTENTION. ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES. 24:37.120 --> 24:38.678 align:start ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES. HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE 24:38.680 --> 24:40.555 align:start DISCOVERIES. HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. 24:40.558 --> 24:41.734 align:start HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THAT'S TOMORROW. 24:41.736 --> 24:42.021 align:start AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THAT'S TOMORROW. AGAIN? 24:42.023 --> 24:44.567 align:start THAT'S TOMORROW. AGAIN? GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS 24:44.569 --> 24:46.541 align:start AGAIN? GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND 24:46.543 --> 24:46.858 align:start GWEN: THE BRAND-NEW PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. 24:46.861 --> 24:48.419 align:start HOUR WEEKEND AIRS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR 24:48.420 --> 24:49.374 align:start SUNDAYS. CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR THE EXACT TIME. 24:49.375 --> 24:52.334 align:start CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS FOR THE EXACT TIME. AND KEEP YOUR DIAL ON PBS 24:52.336 --> 24:54.308 align:start THE EXACT TIME. AND KEEP YOUR DIAL ON PBS BECAUSE STARTING MONDAY JUDY 24:54.310 --> 24:57.396 align:start AND KEEP YOUR DIAL ON PBS BECAUSE STARTING MONDAY JUDY WOODRUFF AND I TAKE OVER THE 24:57.398 --> 24:59.338 align:start BECAUSE STARTING MONDAY JUDY WOODRUFF AND I TAKE OVER THE ANCHOR DESKAL THE PBS NEWS 24:59.339 --> 25:00.229 align:start WOODRUFF AND I TAKE OVER THE ANCHOR DESKAL THE PBS NEWS HOUR. 25:00.231 --> 25:03.348 align:start ANCHOR DESKAL THE PBS NEWS HOUR. AND THEN, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT 25:03.350 --> 25:05.672 align:start HOUR. AND THEN, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK RIGHT HERE ON "WASHINGTON 25:05.674 --> 25:05.959 align:start AND THEN, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK RIGHT HERE ON "WASHINGTON WEEK." 25:05.961 --> 25:06.946 align:start WEEK RIGHT HERE ON "WASHINGTON WEEK." GOOD NIGHT.