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>> I'm Judith Siers-Poisson from
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Wisconsin Public Radio,
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and I'm very pleased to be
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taking part in
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the Science of the Supper Club
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event tonight.
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It's sponsored by both the
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Wisconsin Book Festival and the
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Wisconsin Science Festival.
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So we're getting twofer tonight.
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When I moved to Wisconsin
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26 years ago, I had
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a lot to learn.
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One of the more shocking things
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was that when I saw promotion
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aimed at deer hunting widows,
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it was not nearly as morbid as
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I first thought it was.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And happily, I eventually also
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learned that you do not have to
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have a membership to enjoy the
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wonders of a supper club.
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Even growing up just a few hours
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to the south, in a large
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Illinois city that we will leave
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unnamed, I was completely
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unaware of supper clubs until I
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moved to Wisconsin and, really,
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to be honest, until I moved out
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of the student life and into
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real life.
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But what actually makes a supper
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club a supper club?
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I hope all of you have been
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doing your own research here for
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the last few hours.
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And lucky for us, we have three
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panelists this evening who will
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share the history and lore of
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supper clubs in Wisconsin.
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And the presentation is called
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"Fish Fries and Rib-Eyes and
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Highballs, Oh My!"
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We're going to hear from
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Terese Allen, Ron Faiola, and
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Robin Shepard, and we'll also
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have time for questions from you
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at the end.
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And we're going to start with
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Terese Allen.
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Terese has written many books
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and articles about the pleasures
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and benefits of regional foods,
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sustainable cooking, and
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culinary folklore.
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With the late Harva Hachten,
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Terese wrote the expanded
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edition of
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The Flavor of Wisconsin, which
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is an extensive history of food
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and cooking in our Badger State
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with more than 450 recipes.
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Then she took that wonderful
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resource and adapted it for
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children as
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The Flavor of Wisconsin for Kids
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with co-author Bobbie Malone.
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If you have any kids on your
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holiday gift lists, trust me,
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The Flavor of Wisconsin for Kids
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is a great book.
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Terese also is the co-founder
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and long time leader of the
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Culinary History Enthusiasts of
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Wisconsin, which, if you're
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paying attention, you'll know
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that the acronym is CHEW, and a
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long time board member of REAP
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Food Group, which is an active
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grassroots organization that
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advocates for sustainable food
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systems in southern Wisconsin.
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Terese is also a former chef.
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She went from kitchen manager to
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cookbook author when she wrote
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the Ovens of Brittany Cookbook,
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a collection of recipes and
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remembrances from a
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groundbreaking Midwestern
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restaurant, which, for the
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record, I still miss.
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Her writings over the years
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have celebrated the diversity
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of Wisconsin food, culture,
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and agriculture.
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Its farmers markets, food
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festivals, cheese factories,
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small town cafes and much more.
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And what I love about Terese's
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writing is that she always
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highlights the people behind
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them and their unique stories.
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Please join me in welcoming
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Terese Allen.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Thank you, Judith.
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Thanks for the introduction.
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I want to also do a call out to
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Laura Hiesler.
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Thank you for coming up with the
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idea of this wonderful event and
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bringing us all together.
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Hi to Ron who I just met this
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spring.
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It was one of those inevitable
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meetings.
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He came to speak to the
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Culinary History Enthusiasts of
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Wisconsin, this crazy group that
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I'm in that meets once a month
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and hears about food traditions
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from around the world and
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throughout time, and he kind of
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fit right in there.
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And also hi, Robin.
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Robin and I go pretty far back.
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My husband and Robin have been
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on the same softball team for
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years, or had been.
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You're not playing anymore,
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are you?
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Because he quit a few years ago.
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>> I wouldn't call it playing.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Anyway, so we had a tradition
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after the softball game of going
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out to the Harmony bar afterward
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for some good Wisconsin beers.
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So I'm here tonight to cover
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just a few little parts about
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supper clubs.
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I'm really thrilled about what's
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happening around supper clubs in
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Wisconsin these days.
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A sort of resurgence of
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interest, if you will.
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I've been going to supper clubs
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all my life.
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I have actually a bit of a
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culinary brag around them, and
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that is that my aunt and uncle,
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brother and sister, were the
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owners and operators of
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The Roxy Supper Club in the
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1950s and 1960s, which is one
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of the classic supper clubs
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in the state.
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I don't know if Ron would call
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it a supper club since they also
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serve lunch.
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>> They're open for lunch now.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But they're in Oshkosh,
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right?
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>> They're in Oshkosh, right.
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And The Roxy, during the '50s
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and '60s, was one of those
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really classic classy places
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where you would go for
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the whole evening.
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You would get dressed up, take a
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date, meet friends, have drinks,
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have dinner, hear live music,
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and go dancing.
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So it was a whole night kind of
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thing.
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I didn't get to do it because I
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was too young then.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But I've been going to supper
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clubs all my life, and, again,
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I'm just really thrilled about
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this sort of resurgence of
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interest in them, witnessed by
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such things as Ron's book,
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this event tonight.
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There's another supper club
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cookbook that's in existence by
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Dave Hoekstra.
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It's about supper clubs around
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the Midwest.
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It's called The Supper Club
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Book, I believe.
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And I just learned that Ron's
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working on another one of
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Wisconsin's supper clubs.
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There's someone in the audience
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here tonight, Mary Bergen,
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where are you?
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She's working on a cookbook of
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supper clubs around Wisconsin.
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And I don't know if Jim Draeger
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showed up or not, but he is with
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the Wisconsin Historical
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Society, and it is his plan
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sometime over the next few years
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to do a definitive history of
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supper clubs in the state.
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I'm looking forward to all
05:56.700 --> 05:57.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
of those.
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What I want to cover in my
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10 or 12 or 15 minutes or three
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hours, we'll see...
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[LAUGHTER]
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Once I get talking, you never
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know, is just three things.
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I want to look at some of the
06:09.233 --> 06:10.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
core elements.
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What defines a supper club.
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Ron will be getting into some of
06:14.433 --> 06:16.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
them more specifically also.
06:16.533 --> 06:17.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
I want to look a little bit at
06:17.700 --> 06:19.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the history, and I want to
06:19.033 --> 06:21.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
particularly look at what supper
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clubs mean to us and why they
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are so big here in this state.
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Okay, what exactly is a supper
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club?
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First of all, I don't think
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there is an exact definition,
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but I'm just going to read a
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couple of paragraphs here from
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The Flavor of Wisconsin in a
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section that I wrote about
06:41.000 --> 06:43.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
supper clubs.
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"Although the name implies
06:44.566 --> 06:48.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
exclusivity," I knew I wasn't
06:48.166 --> 06:49.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
going to get that one out,
06:49.366 --> 06:51.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
exclusivity, thank you, "supper
06:51.600 --> 06:53.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
clubs are anything but
06:53.166 --> 06:54.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
exclusive.
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They took root along America's
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byways as early as the 1920s,
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wrote the late Milwaukee Journal
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Sentinel dining critic,
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Dennis Getto in 1995.
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Found statewide, they are
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typically dinner-only
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establishments that are family
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owned and a favorite with
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locals.
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Supper clubs are often located
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on a lake, next to a golf
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course, or in the old section of
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town, and they usually have a
07:21.200 --> 07:22.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
bar separate from the dinning
07:22.600 --> 07:24.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
room where patrons mingle while
07:24.900 --> 07:27.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
waiting for a table.
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That the menu is limited and
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predictable is a draw rather
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than a drawback to supper club
07:33.933 --> 07:35.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
regulars.
07:35.466 --> 07:37.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Such staples as steak, ribs,
07:37.266 --> 07:38.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
broiled fish, and batter fried
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chicken or shrimp are at the
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core of the meal, and each
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comes, as Getto wrote, with
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relish tray, soup or salad or
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salad bar, bread, and choice of
07:48.600 --> 07:51.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
potato.
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Portions are large, the wine
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list is small, and dessert,
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should you still have any room
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left for it, might be a slice of
07:59.200 --> 08:01.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
cheesecake or chocolate torte or
08:01.933 --> 08:05.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
a minty grasshopper cocktail.
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Every Wisconsin supper club
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worth its salt also offers
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nightly specials.
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Indeed, without Friday night
08:12.400 --> 08:14.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
fish fry and Saturday night
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prime rib, a supper club it
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isn't.
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Nor is it one without
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Old Fashioneds, Brandy Old
08:21.300 --> 08:23.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Fashioneds to be exact."
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We're going to hear more about
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Brandy Old Fashioneds,
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right Ron?
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Good, okay, because I'm thirsty
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for one right now.
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And I wanted to just give a few
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more, I think the ones, the sort
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of core elements that I just
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named are really the basics, but
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here's a few more of what I
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think of as earmarks.
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Maybe something we can talk
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about more later, too.
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So supper clubs have neon signs
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outside.
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They are dim or dark inside with
08:47.900 --> 08:49.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
twinkly accent lights or colored
08:49.466 --> 08:51.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
wall sconces.
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Supper clubs have photos of the
08:54.133 --> 08:56.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
owner's family or local history
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pictures on the walls.
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There's some kind of theme very
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often with supper clubs in terms
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of the décor, either inside or
09:04.733 --> 09:06.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
outside or both.
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You might be walking into a
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southern plantation,
09:08.833 --> 09:10.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
a colonial house.
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It might be a Northwoods theme
09:13.233 --> 09:14.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
or a nautical theme,
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western theme.
09:17.000 --> 09:18.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
At the bar, besides
09:18.533 --> 09:20.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Old Fashioneds, there are also
09:20.366 --> 09:22.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
Manhattans, straight up or on
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the rocks and also made with
09:24.233 --> 09:25.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
brandy.
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And the beers generally are on
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tap.
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I'm sorry, are not on tap.
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They are in bottles.
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I think Robin's going to be
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addressing how that might be
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changing also.
09:36.333 --> 09:38.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
Plus, behind the bar is a
09:38.533 --> 09:40.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
bartender who either knows your
09:40.433 --> 09:41.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
name or you know his name or
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both, but you get to know each
09:43.433 --> 09:45.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
other pretty quickly.
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Supper clubs are kind of fancy
09:49.366 --> 09:51.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
but not too fancy.
09:51.033 --> 09:52.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
There are cloth napkins and
09:52.366 --> 09:54.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
maybe tablecloths.
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The seats are padded and maybe a
09:55.500 --> 09:57.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
little clunky looking, and maybe
09:57.433 --> 09:59.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
they're even on wheels.
09:59.800 --> 10:00.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
There are candles, special
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glassware, and when you leave
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there will be printed matchbooks
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at the hostess station for you
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to take home.
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Kids are not only allowed at
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supper clubs, they are often an
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important part of the picture.
10:13.866 --> 10:15.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
Supper clubs offer kiddie
10:15.000 --> 10:17.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
cocktails, kiddie menus, they
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supply large tables for entire
10:19.333 --> 10:21.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
families to gather around, they
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sometimes have placemats for the
10:23.266 --> 10:24.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
kids to color on, and they
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sometimes give away little
10:26.033 --> 10:27.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
gifts, like a little pin or some
10:27.966 --> 10:31.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
candy, as the kids leave.
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The owners of supper clubs are
10:33.300 --> 10:35.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
not absentee.
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They are on-site, and they are
10:36.400 --> 10:38.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
working hard.
10:38.233 --> 10:39.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
They are answering the phone,
10:39.933 --> 10:41.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
seating guests, taking orders,
10:41.433 --> 10:42.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
mixing drinks, and cleaning out
10:42.933 --> 10:45.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
the grease trap.
10:45.066 --> 10:47.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Supper clubs are definitely
10:47.733 --> 10:48.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
not chains.
10:48.800 --> 10:50.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
They're not cookie cutters.
10:50.166 --> 10:51.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
One of my favorite things about
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going to places like, say, the
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White Stag in Eagle River is
10:56.466 --> 10:59.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
getting that wooden bowl with
10:59.766 --> 11:02.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the quarter hunks of fresh
11:02.666 --> 11:05.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
crispy iceberg lettuce and their
11:05.033 --> 11:07.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
homemade French dressing that is
11:07.133 --> 11:08.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
so popular they sell it by the
11:08.400 --> 11:09.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
bottle.
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Or going to Ishnala, that is
11:11.500 --> 11:13.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
Ishnala, isn't it, and seeing
11:13.066 --> 11:14.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
the trees coming up through
11:14.800 --> 11:16.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
the bar.
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So supper clubs have their
11:17.933 --> 11:20.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
special takes, their special
11:20.066 --> 11:23.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
looks and their special menus.
11:23.266 --> 11:24.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Really important question: does
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a supper club have to be open
11:26.800 --> 11:29.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
for supper only in order to be a
11:29.233 --> 11:32.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
supper club?
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In Ron's book, literally
11:34.500 --> 11:36.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
speaking, yes.
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In his book, he decided that's
11:37.566 --> 11:38.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
right, didn't you, to go with
11:38.833 --> 11:40.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
places that are only open for
11:40.666 --> 11:42.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
dinner.
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In my book, figuratively
11:43.833 --> 11:45.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
speaking, no.
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I point to places, like The Roxy
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for example, which is also open
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for lunch but still really is
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very much a classic supper club.
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I think that the difference,
11:58.900 --> 12:00.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
sort of that difference that
12:00.233 --> 12:01.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
some people will say, no, it's
12:01.666 --> 12:03.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
got to be only open for dinner
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to be a supper club and some
12:04.433 --> 12:07.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
people will say a supper club
12:07.033 --> 12:08.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
can be breakfast, lunch, and
12:08.266 --> 12:09.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
dinner, I think that difference
12:09.833 --> 12:11.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
kind of points up something
12:11.300 --> 12:12.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
about supper clubs that I think
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is particularly interesting.
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That there really isn't an exact
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definition, a precise
12:18.933 --> 12:20.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
definition.
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The fact that we sort of argue
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or discuss what is the real,
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what makes a real supper club is
12:26.633 --> 12:28.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
part of the reason why supper
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clubs are so vital and so
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vibrant yet today.
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I think for every supper club,
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when someone says they're only
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open for dinner or they have to
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have white tablecloths, you're
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going to find somebody else
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arguing about it, and that very
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argument, as any good folklorist
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will say, is what keeps the
12:47.500 --> 12:49.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
tradition alive.
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Supper clubs are not static.
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They're not set in stone.
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They are ever evolving, and the
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fact that we're having a
12:56.600 --> 12:58.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
conversation about it means that
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they're very much alive and very
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much thriving.
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As for the history of supper
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clubs, I have more answers, more
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questions myself than answers
13:10.433 --> 13:12.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
around the history of supper
13:12.233 --> 13:13.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
clubs, and I'm really looking
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forward to Jim Draeger's work on
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this myself.
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There actually isn't a whole lot
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on the topic out there.
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Supper clubs are not recognized
13:22.366 --> 13:24.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
nationally as a widespread or
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well known category of eating
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out in the way that, say,
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coffee shops or night clubs or
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taverns, etc, are.
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Still, wherever I do find
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discussions of supper clubs,
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there's usually a reference to
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them being part of the evolution
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of eating places that came out
13:43.100 --> 13:44.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
of Prohibition when private
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eating and drinking clubs
13:46.700 --> 13:49.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
existed because of the ban on
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selling alcohol in public
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places.
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Most sources that I've seen
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credit Milwaukee native
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Lawrence Frank for opening the
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first supper club, and that
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would have been in the 1930s.
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Some sources say 1930, some
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sources say 1920s.
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And it wasn't here in Wisconsin.
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It was in Beverly Hills,
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California.
14:11.366 --> 14:13.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
American restaurant authority
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John Mariani and his scholarly
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book about all of the kinds of,
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all the history of restaurants
14:20.533 --> 14:21.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
and restaurant types in the
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United States, it's called
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America Eats Out, he wrote about
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Frank's restaurant saying that
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its gimmick was that it sold
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only one signature item, prime
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rib, with Yorkshire pudding,
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mashed potatoes, creamed corn,
14:35.466 --> 14:37.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
and sweet peas.
14:37.166 --> 14:38.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Frank's restaurant utilized
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glistening silver serving carts
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to dispense lavish portions of
14:43.200 --> 14:44.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
roast beef.
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Frank also introduced the notion
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of the spinning salad bowl,
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served before the main course,
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an idea that caught on in the
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rest of America.
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And he provided fixings for his
14:54.566 --> 14:55.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
baked potatoes.
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Things like chives and sour
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cream and bacon.
14:59.300 --> 15:01.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Another idea that took off.
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And finally, it was Frank who
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first offered his patrons doggie
15:04.200 --> 15:06.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
bags in which to take home food
15:06.566 --> 15:08.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
that they couldn't finish.
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I don't know about you, but I
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certainly hear a lot of supper
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club themes in that description.
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But he never did call it a
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supper club in the book.
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And he certainly didn't call it
15:18.400 --> 15:19.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
the first supper club.
15:19.633 --> 15:20.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
So who knows.
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It may be like trying to find
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out who first cooked meat over
15:23.666 --> 15:24.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
an open fire.
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I'm not sure.
15:26.733 --> 15:29.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
But what Mariani does say is he
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places Frank's restaurant in the
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same time frame and in the same
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genre as the night clubs, themed
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restaurants, and destination
15:37.600 --> 15:39.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
establishments of that time
15:39.300 --> 15:40.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
frame.
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We wrote by the end of the
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1930s, every major American city
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had a deluxe supper club or
15:46.033 --> 15:47.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
night club.
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Certainly Wisconsin versions
15:49.200 --> 15:50.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
began popping up in the 1930s
15:50.933 --> 15:53.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
and likely even the 1920s.
15:53.600 --> 15:55.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
These were adults-only social
15:55.466 --> 15:57.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
settings located especially in
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rural or resort areas with a
15:59.833 --> 16:01.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
combination of eating, drinking,
16:01.766 --> 16:02.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
listening and dancing to live
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music, and staying out late with
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friends.
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In Wisconsin, as well as
16:08.600 --> 16:10.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
elsewhere in the Upper Midwest,
16:10.333 --> 16:11.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
the big years for that kind of
16:11.733 --> 16:13.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
supper club were the 1950s and
16:13.833 --> 16:15.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
1960s, is the time frame I think
16:15.833 --> 16:18.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
of as the Mad Men supper club
16:18.166 --> 16:20.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
years.
16:20.433 --> 16:22.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
In the 1970s and beyond, of
16:22.833 --> 16:24.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
course, the world of food and
16:24.233 --> 16:26.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
restaurants changed drastically.
16:26.133 --> 16:27.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Independently owned supper clubs
16:27.700 --> 16:29.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
faced challenges that stemmed
16:29.233 --> 16:30.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
from things like the
16:30.933 --> 16:32.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
proliferation of fast food and
16:32.533 --> 16:36.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
chains, shifting dining customs,
16:36.866 --> 16:38.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
and lots of competition, and
16:38.233 --> 16:39.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
also changing liquor and smoking
16:39.566 --> 16:43.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
laws, and they began to die out.
16:43.133 --> 16:44.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
But they did not die out in
16:44.433 --> 16:45.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
Wisconsin.
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Why have supper clubs survived
16:48.633 --> 16:49.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
here?
16:49.700 --> 16:51.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Why do they thrive here?
16:51.233 --> 16:52.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
That's the thing that really
16:52.600 --> 16:54.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
particularly fascinates me.
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Why have they become, in fact,
16:57.300 --> 16:59.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
an idiosyncratic hallmark of
16:59.033 --> 17:01.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
social life in our region?
17:01.733 --> 17:03.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
Again, I don't have any
17:03.400 --> 17:04.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
definitive answers, but I've got
17:04.866 --> 17:06.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
a lot of ideas.
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And in the interest of time,
17:08.000 --> 17:09.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
because I think I'm probably
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already starting to go over, I'm
17:10.300 --> 17:11.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
just going to list them sort of
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quickly, and maybe this can be
17:12.766 --> 17:14.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
part of the conversation
17:14.000 --> 17:16.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
afterward.
17:16.433 --> 17:19.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
Tourism is a huge reason that
17:19.366 --> 17:21.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
supper clubs are popular here.
17:21.000 --> 17:22.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
We are a tourist state.
17:22.400 --> 17:23.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
We are a state of recreation and
17:23.733 --> 17:25.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
resorts, and they very much go
17:25.733 --> 17:28.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
hand in hand with supper clubs.
17:28.833 --> 17:30.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
Sociability.
17:30.133 --> 17:32.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
For better, and sometimes for
17:32.166 --> 17:34.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
worse, Wisconsin has a culture
17:34.000 --> 17:36.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
of sociability.
17:36.566 --> 17:39.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Of gathering together in a way
17:39.066 --> 17:41.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
that is very much closely tied,
17:41.033 --> 17:42.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
intimately tied, to eating and
17:42.766 --> 17:43.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
drinking.
17:43.966 --> 17:45.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
And it comes from our German
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heritage, and there's a term
17:46.500 --> 17:47.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
for it.
17:47.600 --> 17:49.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
It's called gemütlichkeit, and
17:49.800 --> 17:51.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
it implies camaraderie,
17:51.033 --> 17:53.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
sociability, neighborliness all
17:53.333 --> 17:55.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
around food and drink.
17:55.733 --> 17:57.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
The supper club as a meeting or
17:57.533 --> 17:59.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
gathering place fits perfectly
17:59.766 --> 18:02.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
into that mode.
18:02.300 --> 18:04.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Supper clubs are not just where
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you go to go out to eat.
18:06.366 --> 18:08.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
They're where civic and
18:08.433 --> 18:09.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
religious groups meet, where
18:09.700 --> 18:11.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
weddings happen, where there are
18:11.766 --> 18:13.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
anniversaries and graduations
18:13.566 --> 18:15.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
and receptions of all kinds.
18:15.666 --> 18:18.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Supper clubs are a place to meet
18:18.200 --> 18:21.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
and celebrate, but also a place
18:21.033 --> 18:23.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
unlike, say, town halls or many
18:23.100 --> 18:26.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
churches where there's also beer
18:26.200 --> 18:28.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
and booze.
18:28.400 --> 18:30.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Another reason I think Wisconsin
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is big for supper clubs has to
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do with agriculture and the very
18:34.100 --> 18:36.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
strong rural-urban connection
18:36.366 --> 18:38.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
that we have in the state.
18:38.933 --> 18:41.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Wisconsin is an agricultural
18:41.433 --> 18:44.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
state and a very diverse one.
18:44.466 --> 18:46.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Enjoying the food that we grow
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and produce here comes really as
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second nature to us.
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Supper clubs offer and celebrate
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those foods.
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Meats, fish, and cheese and
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dairy products and vegetables
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and fruits.
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Tied to that, the farming aspect
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of the state, is the work ethic
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in this state, I think along
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with other Midwestern values
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that are very strong here.
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It takes a 24/7 commitment to
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run a supper club, and we have
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the work ethic here in this
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state to make that happen, to
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support that.
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We also have heartland attitudes
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that value aspects of supper
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clubs related to that ethic.
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Things like egalitarianism and
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generosity, those big portions,
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and affordability.
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Okay, so it may cost $20 for the
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steak, but you're taking
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three-quarters of it home for
19:35.800 --> 19:38.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
another two or three meals.
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And also community support.
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And tied into all of that is
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another really important thing,
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I think, and that's the
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contemporary emphasis on local
19:47.200 --> 19:48.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
foods.
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I believe, in fact, that the
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local foods movement is having a
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really positive effect on supper
19:52.700 --> 19:54.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
clubs that more people are
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seeing the benefits and
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pleasures of supporting locally
19:57.400 --> 20:00.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
owned restaurants, local growers
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and producers, and regional food
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traditions.
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Indeed we are, as a state, as a
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whole state, we are very proud
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of what we grow and gather and
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hunt and reap and produce.
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And not only do we celebrate it,
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but we ritualize it.
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And the case in point there I
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think that's perfect is the
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fish fry.
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Fish fry, of course, is very
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intimately tied to supper clubs,
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and it's another reason that
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they're so big here.
20:27.800 --> 20:29.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Finally, one more thing, it
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isn't just supper clubs that
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Wisconsin supports.
20:32.466 --> 20:33.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Supper clubs, I think, are part
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of a network, if you will.
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The state also really stands out
20:37.066 --> 20:38.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
for the quality and quantity of
20:38.400 --> 20:39.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
other traditional community
20:39.900 --> 20:41.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
based food business and
20:41.633 --> 20:43.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
practices like butcher shops and
20:43.400 --> 20:44.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
cheese factories and micro
20:44.733 --> 20:46.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
breweries and church suppers and
20:46.066 --> 20:47.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
farmers markets and bakeries and
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all the places I like to go.
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Supper clubs are part of that
20:51.966 --> 20:53.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
culinary web, if you will.
20:53.933 --> 20:56.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
A web of diversity, of pride of
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place, and support.
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So, what do supper clubs mean?
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They mean tourism and economic
21:02.433 --> 21:03.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
health.
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They mean celebration and ritual
21:05.000 --> 21:07.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
and nostalgia.
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Supper clubs get us around the
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table, around from scratch food,
21:11.166 --> 21:12.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
the kind of food that maybe we
21:12.733 --> 21:14.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
don't cook as much as we used to
21:14.133 --> 21:16.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
but we still value it very much.
21:16.300 --> 21:18.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Supper clubs help feed the need
21:18.100 --> 21:19.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
we have to eat together, to
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connect as family, as friends,
21:21.300 --> 21:23.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
and as community.
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And I think above all, supper
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clubs mean identity.
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When we sit down to eat at
21:29.333 --> 21:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
supper clubs in Wisconsin, we
21:30.700 --> 21:32.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
are, in a sense, all sitting at
21:32.400 --> 21:34.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
the same table.
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We're all essentially eating the
21:35.500 --> 21:37.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
same food, the same menu, and
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we're all relishing the pleasure
21:39.466 --> 21:42.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
of belonging to one another.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> Did you say "relishing"
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on purpose?
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[LAUGHTER]
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All right.
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Well, next we are going to hear
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from Ron Faiola.
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Ron is a filmmaker who has
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produced and directed critically
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acclaimed documentaries,
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including Fish Fry Night
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Milwaukee and Wisconsin Supper
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Clubs: And Old Fashioned
22:11.000 --> 22:13.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Experience, which was broadcast
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on PBS stations nationwide.
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As an author and photographer,
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in 2013, Ron released his first
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book, Wisconsin Supper Clubs,
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which showcased 50 supper clubs
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throughout the state.
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Now that's dedication.
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It clearly struck a chord
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because it's currently in its
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fifth printing.
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Is that right?
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Fifth printing.
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Ron is also currently on the
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road working on a second supper
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club book, earning him the
22:37.200 --> 22:38.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
distinction of having visited
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more supper clubs in Wisconsin
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than Al Capone and
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John Dillinger.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Are you as a good a tipper,
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though, because they say
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they were really good tippers.
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They were really good tippers,
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are you a really good
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tipper too?
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>> I just...
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>> There you go.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And if you know your
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Wisconsin history and that of
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Chicago gangsters, you know
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that's nothing to sneeze at.
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So let's welcome Ron Faiola to
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the podium.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>>This is the cover of my book.
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That is Ishnala.
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That's a table there.
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People get engaged and married
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and divorced...
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[LAUGHTER]
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Kyle Cherek and I had dinner
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there for the
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Wisconsin Foodie episode.
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I don't know if you saw that,
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but we didn't get married or
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anything.
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[LAUGHTER]
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We decided just to go as far
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as the appetizer.
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Let's take a trip and go visit
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some...
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[LAUGHTER]
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Supper clubs in Wisconsin.
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This is my meat map from the
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movie.
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And, basically, we love steaks
23:57.733 --> 24:00.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
in Wisconsin, and that's a nice
24:00.433 --> 24:04.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
shaped rib eye there.
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We have to pick a location, and
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how do you find some of these
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supper clubs?
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Well, back in the old days
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before the internet and GPS and
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so on, you had to find a sign on
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the highway you were traveling.
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And often they were back roads.
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No interstates.
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The signs have helped me out,
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actually, when I get lost trying
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to find a place.
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But these days they're still
24:38.333 --> 24:40.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
there, and if you don't have
24:40.766 --> 24:42.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
just a regular old sign like
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that, you can have something
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nice and bright to shine through
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the forest.
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That's Dreamland up in
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South Range near Superior.
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And they are really hidden.
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Highway 2 bypasses them, and
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they're kind of behind there.
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But that sign is one of the best
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neon signs or supper club signs
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I've seen.
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And it's not the original one.
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The original one was kind of
25:11.833 --> 25:13.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
a long, narrow one.
25:13.566 --> 25:14.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
The place has been open since
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the '20s, and this one is
25:18.900 --> 25:24.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
probably dated to the 1950s.
25:24.100 --> 25:26.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
But the night I took that shot,
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it was the heavy pouring rain,
25:29.566 --> 25:31.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
and I'm trying to hold an
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umbrella with the one hand to
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protect the camera and get the
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shot, and I did, luckily.
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Superior can be a rough place.
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Now, this picture has the
25:45.133 --> 25:47.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
classic three elements of a
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supper club that most people
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think about.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Taxidermy, twinkly lights,
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and dark wood.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And this is the Mill up in
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Sturgeon Bay, and it could be
26:01.100 --> 26:03.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
any supper club.
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But not all of them have
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that décor necessarily.
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If you go to the HobNob in
26:10.800 --> 26:12.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Racine, they have a very
26:12.300 --> 26:14.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
exotic décor.
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And here if you go to the
26:18.466 --> 26:21.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Tornado, you won't see any deer
26:21.466 --> 26:24.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
heads there, but you'll go back
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into the '50s, kind of when it
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was Crandall's.
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So that's one of the things you
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look for when you want to find a
26:34.700 --> 26:40.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
classic supper club.
26:40.100 --> 26:42.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
And of course you go to the bar
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and have a Brandy Old Fashioned.
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We kind of went overboard on the
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condiments on this one.
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[LAUGHTER]
26:48.533 --> 26:49.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
I was having fun.
26:49.900 --> 26:52.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
When I was shooting the book,
26:52.100 --> 26:53.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
I got 45 photos of
26:53.833 --> 26:55.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
Brandy Old Fashioneds,
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and after a while I said
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let's stop putting cherries
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and oranges,
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let's put a bunch of stuff
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in there.
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And I had everything from
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marinated mushrooms to asparagus
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and pickles.
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There are some onions,
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pearl onions in there.
27:16.100 --> 27:17.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
But that is the classic
27:17.900 --> 27:18.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
cocktail.
27:18.933 --> 27:19.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
It needs to be in a big tumbler
27:19.966 --> 27:21.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:10%
too.
27:21.000 --> 27:26.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Nice big size and it's the adult
27:26.033 --> 27:29.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
soda pop.
27:29.700 --> 27:31.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And something, you're going to
27:31.066 --> 27:33.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
have one of these or six or
27:33.333 --> 27:34.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
seven before you have dinner.
27:34.766 --> 27:37.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
27:37.566 --> 27:39.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
This is a real sign.
27:39.233 --> 27:44.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
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And this is Wisconsin.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And I think if the kid bought
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a round of drinks, he might be
27:51.100 --> 27:52.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
able to stay there.
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[LAUGHTER]
27:55.166 --> 27:56.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
But this was at Rocky's
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in Stoddard.
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And they still have, now they
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have a new one up, but it's
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still the same thing.
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That's just classic Wisconsin.
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The kids can sit at the bar
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and buy a round.
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The relish tray.
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The relish tray, people really
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draw a line in the sand.
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If they don't have a relish
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tray, they're not a supper club.
28:21.833 --> 28:24.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Honestly, from what I've found,
28:24.600 --> 28:26.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
really maybe 30% to 40%
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of supper clubs have relish
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trays now.
28:29.533 --> 28:33.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Largely because either they've
28:33.033 --> 28:37.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
installed salad bars or include
28:37.033 --> 28:39.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
salad with your dinner, but a
28:39.033 --> 28:40.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
lot of people were not eating
28:40.900 --> 28:44.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
the relish tray or wasting some
28:44.733 --> 28:46.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
of the vegetables.
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And the classic story I have is
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last year I was here at the
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Tornado, and I was with a group
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of about 10-12 people that were
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from Texas and Guam and stuff.
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And we were sitting there and
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our end of the table, now the
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Tornado does their relish tray
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in a glass, and people thought
29:09.066 --> 29:11.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
that was a decoration.
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[LAUGHTER]
29:12.766 --> 29:13.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
And people on my end of the
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table, I said that's a relish
29:15.100 --> 29:16.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
tray, let's dig in, and then the
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people on the other end were
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still admiring their decoration.
29:21.666 --> 29:23.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And we said, send it over, and
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we finished it off.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But it is a common thing.
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And the dip in the middle is
29:30.700 --> 29:32.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the green goddess dressing
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that's typical for a relish
29:35.600 --> 29:37.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
tray.
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A lot of times you'll see
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crackers and cheese dip or
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pickled herring, which I've come
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to really enjoy now.
29:46.200 --> 29:48.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
I used to go, whoa.
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And they had beets today at the
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relish table, and I love
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pickled beets.
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So if you can find a relish
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tray, you're in double bonus
30:03.333 --> 30:06.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
supper club heaven.
30:06.433 --> 30:08.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
Friday night fish fry.
30:08.533 --> 30:10.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
This is a big, nice piece of
30:10.100 --> 30:12.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
walleye at Marty's Place North
30:12.766 --> 30:15.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
in Arbor Vitae.
30:15.900 --> 30:17.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And when I do the book, I talk
30:17.600 --> 30:20.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
to people and say,
30:20.266 --> 30:22.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
what's your big night.
30:22.533 --> 30:24.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
I shouldn't really ask the
30:24.100 --> 30:24.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
question because they say,
30:24.833 --> 30:27.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Friday fish fry and Saturday
30:27.133 --> 30:28.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
we have prime rib.
30:28.900 --> 30:31.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
It's like written in stone for
30:31.266 --> 30:33.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
these places, but that's what
30:33.733 --> 30:37.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
people come in for.
30:37.333 --> 30:41.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
And the fish fry will vary from
30:41.100 --> 30:43.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
geographically around the state.
30:43.233 --> 30:45.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
If you go up to Green Bay,
30:45.100 --> 30:49.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Door County, you'll get perch,
30:49.500 --> 30:51.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
which used to come from the
30:51.033 --> 30:53.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
lake, from Lake Michigan.
30:53.166 --> 30:56.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Now it comes from Lake Erie,
30:56.800 --> 30:58.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
the Canadian side of Lake Erie,
30:58.100 --> 31:00.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
because there is not enough
31:00.533 --> 31:03.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
perch and they're not big enough
31:03.266 --> 31:05.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
and the invasive mussels have
31:05.533 --> 31:07.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
just kind of ruined the perch
31:07.800 --> 31:09.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
fishing, and the state also has
31:09.466 --> 31:14.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
a pretty low, let's say,
31:14.933 --> 31:16.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
quotient of how many fish you
31:16.866 --> 31:18.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
can pull out of the lake.
31:18.766 --> 31:20.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
It's not worth it for anybody.
31:20.866 --> 31:22.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
If anybody knows about
31:22.466 --> 31:25.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Maricque's in Green Bay,
31:25.766 --> 31:29.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
famous for their fish fry, yeah.
31:29.233 --> 31:34.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Right now they're doing 99.999%
31:34.000 --> 31:35.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
Lake Erie fish.
31:35.933 --> 31:39.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Maricque's has, for the people
31:39.133 --> 31:43.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
who don't know, a commercial
31:43.266 --> 31:45.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
fishery that used to supply
31:45.733 --> 31:48.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the perch, and they can no
31:48.700 --> 31:50.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
longer do that.
31:50.333 --> 31:51.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
So they have to get it from
31:51.733 --> 31:52.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
Lake Erie, and it's still
31:52.766 --> 31:54.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
really good.
31:54.466 --> 31:57.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
A lot of times perch gets called
31:57.100 --> 32:03.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
lake perch, or let's say lake
32:03.100 --> 32:05.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
perch, and people assume it's
32:05.166 --> 32:08.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
from around here, but a lot of
32:08.000 --> 32:10.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
it is European zander.
32:10.500 --> 32:12.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And it's not as big and not as
32:12.766 --> 32:15.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
meaty as the Canadian
32:15.366 --> 32:17.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
lake perch.
32:17.500 --> 32:19.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
But let's move on to Saturday
32:19.600 --> 32:21.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
night.
32:21.166 --> 32:22.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
A big nice piece of prime rib
32:22.533 --> 32:26.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
there.
32:26.433 --> 32:28.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
I like it medium rare.
32:28.233 --> 32:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
I've seen people that have it
32:30.700 --> 32:33.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
more bloody.
32:33.900 --> 32:37.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
But I love prime rib.
32:37.100 --> 32:42.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
It's really nice.
32:42.066 --> 32:43.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
It's a popular thing.
32:43.800 --> 32:45.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
It takes a long time to make,
32:45.800 --> 32:47.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
and a lot of times places run
32:47.100 --> 32:49.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
out of the prime rib because
32:49.333 --> 32:50.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
there's only so much you can
32:50.433 --> 32:51.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
make.
32:51.600 --> 32:56.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
It's not like an endless supply.
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After dinner you go to the bar
32:58.633 --> 33:00.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
and have one of these.
33:00.266 --> 33:02.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
This is a pink squirrel.
33:02.666 --> 33:04.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Not something I would order
33:04.200 --> 33:06.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
necessarily.
33:06.766 --> 33:09.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
That was at the High Shores in
33:09.766 --> 33:13.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Chippewa Falls with the little
33:13.300 --> 33:14.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
cute hearts on it and
33:14.500 --> 33:15.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
everything.
33:15.900 --> 33:19.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
But that's a classic ice cream
33:19.733 --> 33:23.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
drinks after dinner.
33:23.333 --> 33:25.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And once you're done with your
33:25.600 --> 33:29.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
dinner, of course you've got to
33:29.633 --> 33:32.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
remember Fido.
33:32.466 --> 33:35.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
And they don't, places still
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hand these out now.
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But usually the portions are so
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large they ended up giving you
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three or four bags or a big
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carry-out container.
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But back in the day, when I was
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a kid, we had a dog and we would
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go to a supper club and bring
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home the bones and have
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our dog, Holly, go nuts when
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we'd come home with that.
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But that's basically a night
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at a supper club.
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And I'm working on the second
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book now.
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I'm encouraged, first of all, by
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the response to the first book,
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and I'm seeing a resurgence of
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supper clubs, places that are
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being kind of resurrected from
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previous places by younger
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couples that are, I think they
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know that people are getting
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maybe a little tired of the
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cookie cutter chains and people
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want to revisit the restaurants
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of yesteryear and remember the
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big portions and the
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personalized service from
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the family run places.
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You can't get any better
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than that.
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And I still see a lot of, as I
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drive across the state, I see
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places that are closed,
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obviously have been closed for a
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while but still have what's left
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of their sign hanging out.
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And then I'll see other places
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that are open that are under
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the radar.
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So there's still a lot of places
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out there.
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We talk about it being a
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Midwestern thing.
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It is, but whereas Minnesota and
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Iowa and maybe upper Michigan
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has a handful of supper clubs,
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Wisconsin has over 300.
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So we're still the supper club
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capital.
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And just last year the
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Calumet County trademarked the
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term Supper Club Capital of
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the Midwest, apparently.
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And they used my meat map,
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by the way.
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[LAUGHTER]
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They kind of stole my meat map.
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Wisconsin itself is
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the supper club capital.
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I'm proud to be part of that and
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to be letting people know where
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to go, and visiting these places
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and keeping them open
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instead of closing them.
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So, that's it.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> I've got that doggie bag
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staring at me.
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Well, last but certainly not
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least, we're going to hear from
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Robin Shepard.
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Robin is an associate professor
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at UW in the Department of Life
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Sciences Communication in the
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College of Agricultural and Life
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Sciences, which makes him a
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colleague of a guy named
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Larry Meiller, who you may have
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heard of and who I get to work
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with every day.
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Robin is an accomplished
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academic and member of the UW
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community, but what we're really
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all happy about is that he
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really knows his beer.
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Robin gives wonderful historic
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brewery walks and presentations.
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I just have to say, brewery is
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the hardest English language
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word for me to say.
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Hands down.
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I sound like I've spent several
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hours in one every time I try to
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say it.
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[LAUGHTER]
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For example, the Wisconsin
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Alumni Association invites him
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to present to alumni across the
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country to share his expertise
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in Wisconsin brewing history
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and his knowledge of the
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state's most iconic beverage.
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Although, with all the talk of
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Old Fashioneds tonight, I think
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they could give beer a run for
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the money.
37:27.600 --> 37:29.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
In 2012, Robin led a group of
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UW alumni on a 12-day
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educational tour through
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Germany, which included cultural
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and natural history and, yes,
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the study of beer.
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Robin's book, Wisconsin's Best
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Breweries and Brew Pubs:
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Searching for the Perfect Pint,
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was given the top book prize in
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2001 by the North American Guild
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of Beer Writers.
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He's also written two additional
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books about the brewing
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industry, and last fall he
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published a historical analysis
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of Wisconsin's post-Prohibition
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brewing industry in the
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International Journal of Brewing
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History.
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Robin has written more than 500
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beer reviews, travel articles,
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and stories.
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I'm guessing there's at least a
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pint in the background research
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for each of those.
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And you can find his regular
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weekly column, "Beer Here," in
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both the Isthmus newspaper and
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the paper's web-based daily page
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site.
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Please join me in welcoming
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Robin Shepard.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> I think it's really
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appropriate that we're
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here on a Friday night talking
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about supper clubs, isn't it?
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That connection between supper
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clubs and beer, at least for me,
38:38.266 --> 38:39.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
is pretty direct.
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They all serve beer, right?
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So kind of start from that
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premise as you kind of listen to
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a few of my thoughts about
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supper clubs because I'm one of
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those people that has a little
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bit more of a looser definition
38:49.466 --> 38:50.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
of supper clubs.
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But supper clubs for me and a
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lot of the beer folks across the
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country, they provided a very
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interesting model that I think
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we actually should give some
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credit to for when we walk into
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a brew pub today.
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So, first and foremost, at least
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my definition of a supper club
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means that they have to serve
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beer on tap.
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That's it.
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[LAUGHTER]
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No seriously, they will all
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serve beer.
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As Terese pointed out, many of
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today's supper clubs still sort
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of that time honored tradition
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of beer in a bottle.
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But that's changing as sort of
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the pressures, the interests in
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today's modern craft beer
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movement is beginning to sort of
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besiege much of Wisconsin.
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Supper clubs of the '30s that
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arose at that time, I think,
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Terese commented on this
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briefly, is that they did sort
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of arise or they came out of
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that atmosphere of the
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speakeasy.
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And that really has carried
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through into what we see in a
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supper club today.
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They're generally open late at
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night.
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They offered alcoholic
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beverages.
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They only served supper.
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Many had entertainment to go
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with them.
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They evolved in places where
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everybody knows your name.
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I read an interview that Ron
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gave a couple of years ago, and
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he was quoted as saying, "Supper
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clubs generally are frequented
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by regulars, and if they don't
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show up, the owners will call to
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see if everything's okay."
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[LAUGHTER]
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Supper clubs emerged as our
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roadhouses early on.
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And part of that was a function
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that, coming out of Prohibition,
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communities would prefer that
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liquor licenses and other types
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of establishments like that be
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outside the city limits.
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So all of that made the
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roadhouse the early form of the
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supper club a destination,
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so to speak.
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Well, fast forward today.
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So, where does the supper club
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and beer intersect?
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Well, just like the brewery
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industry, that local aspect of
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them makes them interesting.
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It helps them to serve and
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maintain that unique niche that
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they have in a very competitive
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restaurant industry.
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Supper clubs are not chains.
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They're not chain restaurants.
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They are unique, from their
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décor to their location.
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The owner is a fixture at a
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supper club.
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And while the menu, there's a
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core there that is sort of the
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staple, it's that local flare in
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dishes.
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The sometimes locally sourced
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ingredients or that secret
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grandmother's special spice in
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the pumpkin pie that makes them
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so special that people keep
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coming back for.
41:32.833 --> 41:34.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
Now, some of these same
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qualities are what we see in
41:35.266 --> 41:37.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
today's local craft beer scene,
41:37.233 --> 41:38.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
especially when we think about
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Wisconsin's brew pubs.
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Brew pubs are those breweries
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that have a restaurant or a part
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of that.
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A commercial brewery just
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basically bottles or kegs beer.
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And I really feel that today's
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model, at least in Wisconsin,
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there is a group of these brew
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pubs that really we should sort
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of salute and credit that they
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really arose from that early on
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fascination, maybe even direct
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association, with the supper
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club.
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The brew pub sort of arose from,
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yes, a brewery, but it arose
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from a local restaurant.
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They were greatly influenced by
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that local, and that was
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reflected in the atmosphere that
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you see when you come into a
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brew pub, particularly those
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that are sort of in the outer
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portions of the state.
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Those that are destinations in
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and of their own selves.
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Let me tell you a couple of
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stories about similar models.
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Why I think that we should
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credit some brew pubs as sort of
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coming out of the supper club
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model.
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Wisconsin's very first brew pub
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was Brewmaster's.
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It was located in Kenosha.
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It was actually the 16th brew
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pub in the country.
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So this was early on.
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It was founded in 1987.
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In my first Wisconsin beer
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guide, I was looking back at it
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and trying to make some of these
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associations and décor and hours
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and menus and things of that, I
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sort of chuckled at my own self
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because this was my first book,
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I wrote it several years ago,
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but in the book I wrote,
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"Brewmaster's Pub has a menu
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most Wisconsin supper clubs
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would envy, offering both
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English and German specialties,"
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which I think both Ron and
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Terese pointed out that those
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very hardy, those comfort types
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of foods are part of that supper
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club.
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Well, in Brewmaster's, the owner
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Jerry Rezny had located his and
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wasn't quite as picturesque as
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Mirror Lake or with frontage
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along Lake Michigan, but he had
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turned an old Christmas tree
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farm into his brew pub.
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But most importantly or
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impressively, he had taken a
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century old, three story stone
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barn and turned that into his
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restaurant and brew pub.
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What I remember was not a single
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relish tray, but the relish, it
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was more of a relish bar.
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It was segregated out from the
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main salad bar.
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But that was something that was
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very unique in its own right.
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Again, it was the first of
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Wisconsin's brew pubs.
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Another brew pub that emerged a
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few years later that was built
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on sort of the old grounds,
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direct grounds, of a supper club
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occurred in Egg Harbor,
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Shipwrecked Brewing Company.
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And it's small brew pub, but it
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has seasonal hours, really
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limited hours, and it has its
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own seasonal house beers.
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What makes it a wonderful sort
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of example of how the supper
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club model has influenced
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today's brew pubs is that
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there's a lot of things to that,
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especially sort of the fun tale
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of the supper club lore that
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goes with this restaurant.
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It's family run, which a lot of
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our supper clubs are.
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In this case by Rob and Noreen
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Pollman.
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They also own Door County's
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Peninsula Winery.
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There's a road trip involved to
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get there.
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It was built in a transition
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from several other restaurants
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and supper clubs.
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It opened in 1998 as a brew pub,
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but if you go back in its
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history, it goes all the way
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back to 1930 when it was
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originally opened as
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Murphy's Moore, it then became
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the Thimbleberry and later the
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Blue Iris in another string of
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different supper club and
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restaurants before it was taken
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over and became a brew pub.
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As a menu that's perhaps a
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little more limited than what we
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see in some supper clubs, but it
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does have that wonderful Friday
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night fish fry that draws people
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from all over the peninsula.
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It has that homey atmosphere,
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even like some of the supper
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clubs that Ron mentions in his
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book.
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There are eight guestrooms for
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those people who want to make a
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complete evening of it.
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And then there's the story of
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intrigue and danger that goes
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with Shipwrecked.
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As with Norwood Pines in the
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north central part of the state,
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it's mentioned in Ron's book, it
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had one of those very famous
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gangsters, Al Capone, who
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frequented there.
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Local legend has it that two
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revenue agents were last seen in
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that building lurking about
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looking for Capone.
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The building has tunnels that
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connect it to other businesses
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in Egg Harbor.
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And there's even the story that
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the local tell of Capone's
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illegitimate son Jason who hung
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himself in the attic and whose
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ghost is occasionally seen on
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the roof.
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And from my recollection, there
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are a number of haunted supper
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clubs in Wisconsin's 300 number.
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So just like with supper clubs,
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this was sort of, it doesn't
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quite fit the perfect model, but
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when you walk into Shipwrecked,
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you get that supper club feel.
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You have good food.
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You have the kinds of
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conversations over beer that
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progress and make this a
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destination.
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I think supper clubs also really
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tell us about our desires for
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all things local, especially
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local food, flavor, and flare.
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And that's what we see in
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today's craft beer movement.
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Now, there are chains and large
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macro breweries here in
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Wisconsin, but that local brew
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pub is really a manifestation of
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what we've learned in supper
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clubs.
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The modern renaissance of small,
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local brewing reflects a desire
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on the part of the beer drinker
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to support beer that is made
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right where you drink it.
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Just like in a supper club, food
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prepared right there, sometimes
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in special recipes that take on
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almost an icon in that community
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for special dishes.
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I can't think of a better
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example of a brew pub based on
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the supper club model than one
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that's right here in Madison.
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It technically would not fit
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Ron's definition of a supper
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club, but have you ever walked
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in Vintage Brewing?
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You can't help but think about
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that motif and that atmosphere
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that is created when you walk
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through that door.
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I also am struck by the aspect
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of the owner becomes a fixture
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in a supper club.
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And just like with a supper
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club, you'll find Scott Manning,
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the brewmaster and co-owner,
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working behind the glass in the
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brew house.
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He'll even come out to say hello
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to the folks he knows at their
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table or at the bar.
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I'm not sure that Vintage has a
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relish tray, but when Scott says
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hello at my table wearing his
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brewer's boots, now that's
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Vintage supper club in my book.
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Our small breweries have found
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that just like the supper clubs,
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they can offer a variety of
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tastes and flavors to choose
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from.
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At a brew pub today, you find a
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constantly rotating menu of
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beers.
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You'll find a core set usually.
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But that diversity is what you
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often see in a brew pub.
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I think it lends itself to the
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people, not only the regulars
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who come back for that local
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beer and locally made beer, but
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it also is somewhat like a
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little bit of a scavenger hunt.
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It's why people keep going up
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and down the road to see how
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many supper clubs that they can
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check off their list or have
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sign Ron's book, right?
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I met a couple people earlier
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tonight that said I take Ron's
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book with me and have the waiter
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or the barman or the owner
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sign it.
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It's a game we all play.
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Whether it's in supper clubs or
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brew pubs, it's a scavenger hunt
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of can we find these places and
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what's it like locally when we
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go in.
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Now back to the specifics of
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beer in the supper club
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experience.
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Yes, when you go into a supper
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club you're going to have a
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selection of beer, and more
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likely than not you'll have your
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selection based in bottles.
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But that is changing.
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The craft beer movement is
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convincing supper club owners
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that there are folks that will
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come in and look at the beer
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list first, and then figure out
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what they want their entrees
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to be.
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I think supper clubs are
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changing, but they're still
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lagging a little bit behind the
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beer geekdom crowd.
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But they are going hand in hand
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with those folks who love to
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search for good food
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and good beer.
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But just as the Brandy Old
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Fashioned is iconic in the
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Wisconsin supper club, there are
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a couple of beers that I think
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are iconic when you travel
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around the state.
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Can you imagine a supper club
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that could get away by not
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serving Spotted Cow?
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What about Leinie's Original or
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Leinie's Red?
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That's another one, right?
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Where the name says it all,
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Capital Supper Club.
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What self-respecting supper club
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wouldn't serve that?
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Those have become the beers that
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are really part of the modern
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supper club movement for me.
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Finally, I am also struck by the
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stories and the experiences that
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we have that make supper clubs
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special for all of us.
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And I've been, I have to admit
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I'm a Wisconsin transplant, but
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I've been here over 30 years.
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So I'm pretty close being solid.
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But I can remember one of my
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first experiences is that I was
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sitting in the bar of the supper
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club, waiting on my table and, I
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don't know, I think it was the
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early evening church service or
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a wake, but they let out across
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the street and they went right
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into the supper club.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And it wasn't 30 seconds until I
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was seeing a 13-year-old sitting
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on the bar stool next to me
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ordering a root beer.
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And this was a kid that came
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from Iowa with a fairly
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conservative upbringing thinking
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to myself, wow, this is a really
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interesting cultural tradition.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Thank you very much.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> All right.
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>> I guess my question could be
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to all three of you, but I
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recently bought a supper club.
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I grew up, I know, it's Friday
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night, it's not open yet.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Otherwise I wouldn't be here.
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But I grew up in the supper club
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business.
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My dad owned one that almost
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fits Ron's definition to a T.
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So that's kind of what I grew up
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in, and that's really what I
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wanted to continue with the
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supper club that I bought.
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But my question is more about
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lunch.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And Jeremy's my business partner
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and he's right next to me too.
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[LAUGHTER]
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We've discussed this ad nauseum,
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and when we first found the one
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that we wanted to buy after
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looking at many different ones,
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it was we're not going to
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do lunch.
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It does not fit my definition
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of a supper club.
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It just doesn't.
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But then what happened was after
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we purchased the place and we
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started to really get to know
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the community, as we were
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replacing the 30-year-old carpet
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and things like that that we
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just had to do, we found that
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there was such a desire for
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lunch and it was our guests that
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were telling us that we're not
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even open yet and our guests
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were coming to our door,
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knocking on the window saying
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when you open?
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Are you going to have lunch?
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Are you going to have lunch?
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And I'm struggling with my own
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internal definition of what a
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supper club should be because
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one of the fundamentals, I
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think, is being a part of the
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community and serving your
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community.
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So I just would like to maybe
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push you guys a little bit on
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that issue because it's
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certainly something that I'm
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still struggling with.
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Am I going to serve lunch in my
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supper club, and will I still be
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one?
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> All right.
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Well, Ron, do you want to start,
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and then, Terese, do you want to
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jump in?
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>> Yeah.
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I have an interesting story
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about the Bartolotta Group in
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Milwaukee opened up two supper
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clubs called Joey Gerard's, and
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one of them is a block and a
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half away from my house in
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Greendale, and Joe and I talked
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when he opened the place.
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He actually bought my movie to
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check out what to do for a
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supper club.
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But anyway, the village in
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Greendale said, open for lunch,
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be open for lunch.
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And he said if I open for lunch,
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I'll lose money.
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Now, if your community, if
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you've got five or six people
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that show up and say we want
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lunch, well, are you going to be
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busy enough to keep that going
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or not?
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If you can make your money as a
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supper club and stay as a supper
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club, that's great.
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If there is a real need for you
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to open up at lunch, then that
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could work, and you can still
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call yourself a supper club.
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I went on Facebook on my supper
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club page on Facebook, and I
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asked people if a supper club is
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open for lunch is it still a
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supper club, and the large
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percentage said, yes.
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So it goes against what my
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criteria is, but, again, it's
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financial for somebody who owns
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a place.
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A lot of places, like here in
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Madison, Toby's and Kavanaugh's,
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they're open for lunch because
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they have to survive, and
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Feiler's.
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They have to compete against
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other chains or other supper
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clubs and whatever, and being
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open for lunch is just another
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way to bring in some more money.
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But if, like Joe Bartolotta
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decided, that they wouldn't make
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any money if they were open for
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lunch.
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So that's kind of...
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>> It's hard because it wasn't a
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financial issue.
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It's more about I don't want to
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frustrate the community that's
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asking for it.
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So the restaurant does, it's a
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60-year history in the
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restaurant so it did fine
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without lunch for a lot of
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years, and for a while they
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tried lunch and then they didn't
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have lunch.
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But it was always a response to
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the community.
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So that's my internal struggle.
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>> Terese.
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>> I think this kind of goes
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back to what I was talking about
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earlier about supper clubs are
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more than a place people go to
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to eat.
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They go there to meet.
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They go there to gather.
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They go there for business
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meetings.
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>> Lion's Club.
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>> Lion's Clubs, right.
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And depending upon where it is,
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I feel like I agree, it's got to
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work for you financially.
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But I think it sounds to me just
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that you're considering this,
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that you want to serve the
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community, it sounds to me like
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you already are doing so much of
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what supper clubs do for a
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community.
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They serve people in different
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ways beyond just feeding them
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food.
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You sound like the classic
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supper club owner to me.
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You're going to be there.
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You're in the community.
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You want to serve the people.
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You want to give them what they
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want.
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I say go for it, ignore him.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> I didn't say not go for it.
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And I know places that do that.
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They have meetings of the Lion's
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Clubs and so on during the day.
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>> Or go to a few places.
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Go to, well, The Old Fashioned
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here in Madison is jammed.
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That is just jammed all the
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time.
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Lunch, breakfast.
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>> That's because I put them in
57:44.566 --> 57:45.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
my movie.
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>> Yeah, it's because you put
57:46.600 --> 57:47.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
them in your movie.
57:47.700 --> 57:48.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
Or The Roxy is a
57:48.733 --> 57:49.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
really good example It's in
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Oshkosh It's in downtown
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Oshkosh.
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It's not a classic place as far
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as being in a resort area, but
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it is in the old section of
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town.
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And I've been there for lunch,
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and it's packed.
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You wait in line for lunch too.
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And they serve just wonderful
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fresh food, and people are
58:04.900 --> 58:05.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
having meetings and they're
58:05.966 --> 58:08.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
having gatherings.
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You can tell that it's a service
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to the community as well.
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>> We have a question over here.
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>> We are very boring people.
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We don't really drink that much
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beer, and even though my husband
58:22.833 --> 58:26.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
grew up in Port Washington and a
58:26.633 --> 58:28.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
few years ago we flew to London
58:28.800 --> 58:32.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
and he was looking after the
58:32.566 --> 58:33.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
fish fry.
58:33.833 --> 58:35.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
So I thought it's originally in
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London, but when we come back I
58:36.800 --> 58:38.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
realize his hometown offer fish
58:38.833 --> 58:41.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
fry every year, summer fish fry.
58:41.933 --> 58:45.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Anyhow, could you please tell me
58:45.033 --> 58:46.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
the origin of it?
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>> Of fish fries?
58:47.900 --> 58:48.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
>> Yes.
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>> Sure.
58:49.966 --> 58:50.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
You got to buy the book.
58:50.966 --> 58:52.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
58:52.933 --> 58:54.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
Have you got an hour
58:54.100 --> 58:55.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
or two or three or four?
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[LAUGHTER]
58:56.433 --> 59:00.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So fish fries, really briefly
59:00.300 --> 59:01.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
and not completely at all,
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but fish fries are one of
59:03.766 --> 59:06.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
the most fascinating, to me,
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culinary traditions in the state
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because it does come from so
59:10.600 --> 59:13.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
many sources here.
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We have, first of all, we have a
59:17.233 --> 59:19.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
taste for fish that runs in our
59:19.233 --> 59:20.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
blood.
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Literally, if you go back, first
59:22.266 --> 59:23.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
of all, the state, if you look
59:23.800 --> 59:24.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
at it geographically
59:24.900 --> 59:26.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
and climatically,
59:26.166 --> 59:27.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
there's water everywhere.
59:27.266 --> 59:28.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
So we've been fishing here
59:28.200 --> 59:29.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
for millennia.
59:29.666 --> 59:31.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
The native tribes fished.
59:31.100 --> 59:32.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
The immigrant groups who came
59:32.700 --> 59:34.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
here fished.
59:34.033 --> 59:35.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Commercial industry grew up
59:35.600 --> 59:37.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
around it.
59:37.466 --> 59:39.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
So it was tied into our economy.
59:39.166 --> 59:42.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
We just, it's in our blood.
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Eating fish is in our blood, and
59:43.633 --> 59:44.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
even though it's not much of a
59:44.833 --> 59:46.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
commercial industry anymore,
59:46.300 --> 59:47.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
it's certainly very much a part
59:47.766 --> 59:49.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
of our recreation and sporting
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industries and is very important
59:51.466 --> 59:52.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
to us.
59:52.766 --> 59:54.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
So there's that.
59:54.066 --> 59:55.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
There's the fact that Wisconsin
59:55.600 --> 59:57.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
has a very high percentage of
59:57.833 --> 59:59.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
Catholic population.
59:59.500 --> 01:00:02.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
So, of course, Catholics used to
01:00:02.300 --> 01:00:03.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
not any fish on Fridays.
01:00:03.700 --> 01:00:06.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
And so that was feeding in a
01:00:06.966 --> 01:00:08.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
big way.
01:00:08.833 --> 01:00:10.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Prohibition has actually a lot
01:00:10.533 --> 01:00:12.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
to do with fish fries, believe
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
it or not.
01:00:13.566 --> 01:00:18.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Taverns used to give free meals
01:00:18.566 --> 01:00:20.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
kind of as a way to get you in
01:00:20.166 --> 01:00:21.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
and get some salty food in your
01:00:21.833 --> 01:00:24.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
mouth, and then you'd be thirsty
01:00:24.700 --> 01:00:26.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
for some more beer or some more
01:00:26.700 --> 01:00:28.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
drinks.
01:00:28.266 --> 01:00:29.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And during Prohibition when they
01:00:29.733 --> 01:00:31.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
couldn't serve drinks, they
01:00:31.900 --> 01:00:34.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
would offer free or very cheap
01:00:34.266 --> 01:00:37.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
dinners or lunches of fried fish
01:00:37.133 --> 01:00:38.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
because fish was abundant at
01:00:38.633 --> 01:00:39.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
that time and very cheap, and it
01:00:39.933 --> 01:00:41.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
was a cheap way to serve a lot
01:00:41.233 --> 01:00:43.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
of people and charge very little
01:00:43.100 --> 01:00:44.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
or nothing at all.
01:00:44.766 --> 01:00:46.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And then, along with that, on
01:00:46.300 --> 01:00:48.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
Fridays, that's when people
01:00:48.700 --> 01:00:49.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
would get paid.
01:00:49.766 --> 01:00:51.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
So these big Catholic families
01:00:51.566 --> 01:00:53.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
would get their paycheck, and
01:00:53.166 --> 01:00:54.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
where would they go?
01:00:54.166 --> 01:00:55.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
They'd go out to eat because
01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:57.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
they were flush, there was this
01:00:57.100 --> 01:00:58.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
cheap meal or it was a free
01:00:58.433 --> 01:00:59.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
meal, and the adults could still
01:00:59.866 --> 01:01:01.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
get some hooch under the table,
01:01:01.900 --> 01:01:03.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
so to speak, in a lot of these
01:01:03.133 --> 01:01:04.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
places.
01:01:04.366 --> 01:01:05.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
And by the time Prohibition
01:01:05.566 --> 01:01:09.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
ended, people had become sort of
01:01:09.766 --> 01:01:11.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
used to this, and it grew into a
01:01:11.933 --> 01:01:13.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
tradition and people started
01:01:13.300 --> 01:01:15.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
serving it not just in taverns
01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:16.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
but in restaurants.
01:01:16.533 --> 01:01:17.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And, of course, now it's part of
01:01:17.933 --> 01:01:19.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the supper club tradition.
01:01:19.133 --> 01:01:20.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
You can find it in fancy
01:01:20.333 --> 01:01:22.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
restaurants, etc.
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
I think it ties in also, without
01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:25.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
going into it in huge amounts of
01:01:25.166 --> 01:01:27.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
detail, I think the whole
01:01:27.300 --> 01:01:28.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
gemütlichkeit thing that
01:01:28.366 --> 01:01:29.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
I talked about.
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:31.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
The same thing that happens in
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:34.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
supper clubs around prime rib on
01:01:34.366 --> 01:01:35.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Saturday night happens with fish
01:01:35.833 --> 01:01:38.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
fries on Fridays.
01:01:38.433 --> 01:01:40.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
So that's part of that.
01:01:40.466 --> 01:01:43.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
It became big in Wisconsin and
01:01:43.366 --> 01:01:46.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
it stayed big and it became
01:01:46.166 --> 01:01:49.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
really a hallmark here.
01:01:49.300 --> 01:01:50.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
There's more but...
01:01:50.933 --> 01:01:52.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> Port Washington was also a
01:01:52.333 --> 01:01:56.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
big commercial fishing port, and
01:01:56.166 --> 01:01:58.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
they no longer do that.
01:01:58.266 --> 01:02:00.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
But they have the big every once
01:02:00.666 --> 01:02:03.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
a year fish day where they serve
01:02:03.933 --> 01:02:06.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
the world's largest fish fry,
01:02:06.866 --> 01:02:08.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
apparently.
01:02:08.733 --> 01:02:09.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
>> The smelt fry?
01:02:09.866 --> 01:02:10.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
>> No.
01:02:10.900 --> 01:02:11.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
It's actually just regular
01:02:11.900 --> 01:02:13.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
fish fry.
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:14.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
But it's all over town.
01:02:14.133 --> 01:02:16.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
Actually, I dated a girl from
01:02:16.533 --> 01:02:19.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Port Washington, and back in the
01:02:19.433 --> 01:02:21.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
'80s it was more drinking than
01:02:21.133 --> 01:02:22.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
eating fish.
01:02:22.366 --> 01:02:23.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:02:23.833 --> 01:02:25.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
But Port Washington, yeah,
01:02:25.266 --> 01:02:26.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
that was a big part.
01:02:26.733 --> 01:02:28.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Smith Brothers Fishery was part
01:02:28.200 --> 01:02:30.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
of that.
01:02:30.266 --> 01:02:31.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
So that is part of their
01:02:31.700 --> 01:02:33.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
heritage in Port Washington.
01:02:33.766 --> 01:02:35.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> And why is there beer in beer
01:02:35.533 --> 01:02:36.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
batter?
01:02:36.533 --> 01:02:37.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
Robin?
01:02:37.533 --> 01:02:38.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
>> Tastes better.
01:02:38.533 --> 01:02:39.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
>> It tastes good.
01:02:39.533 --> 01:02:40.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
Yeah.
01:02:40.700 --> 01:02:41.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:02:41.700 --> 01:02:42.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
>> But I'm guessing there's
01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:44.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
something about the chemistry of
01:02:44.233 --> 01:02:45.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
it that makes the batter
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
especially crispy?
01:02:47.166 --> 01:02:49.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:02:49.066 --> 01:02:50.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
>> It makes it puff.
01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:51.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
>> It makes it puff.
01:02:51.366 --> 01:02:53.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
See, I knew there was something.
01:02:53.033 --> 01:02:55.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
Another question?
01:02:55.966 --> 01:02:57.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
I'm kind of blinded, so I might
01:02:57.266 --> 01:02:58.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
not be seeing people.
01:02:58.366 --> 01:02:59.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
Anyone else?
01:02:59.633 --> 01:03:01.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
Yeah.
01:03:01.500 --> 01:03:02.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
A follow-up.
01:03:02.866 --> 01:03:04.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> Sorry, I forgot to ask, my
01:03:04.100 --> 01:03:05.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
second question is for the
01:03:05.766 --> 01:03:07.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
professor.
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
We finally, I finally like the
01:03:09.500 --> 01:03:12.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Spotted Cow, given last Friday
01:03:12.666 --> 01:03:16.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
for free at the gallery walk or
01:03:16.900 --> 01:03:18.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
gallery night.
01:03:18.700 --> 01:03:22.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Anyhow, is there a fish fry, no,
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
supper club in New Glarus
01:03:24.700 --> 01:03:26.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
because I love that place.
01:03:26.133 --> 01:03:27.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:03:27.633 --> 01:03:28.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
>> Actually, no.
01:03:28.866 --> 01:03:30.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
New Glarus, I've tried to go
01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:33.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
down there in that area, and
01:03:33.666 --> 01:03:38.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
it's largely kind of like a
01:03:38.100 --> 01:03:42.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
European Swiss area, and they
01:03:42.233 --> 01:03:44.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
really don't do supper clubs
01:03:44.066 --> 01:03:45.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
down there.
01:03:45.666 --> 01:03:47.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
And it's interesting about
01:03:47.333 --> 01:03:49.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
Spotted Cow because I have
01:03:49.166 --> 01:03:53.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
friends in bands and live in
01:03:53.466 --> 01:03:57.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
other states that just,
01:03:57.333 --> 01:03:58.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
Spotted Cow is not
01:03:58.933 --> 01:04:00.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
served outside of Wisconsin.
01:04:00.933 --> 01:04:02.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
They don't ship it anywhere
01:04:02.333 --> 01:04:03.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
other than Wisconsin.
01:04:03.933 --> 01:04:05.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
And they go nuts for that.
01:04:05.633 --> 01:04:07.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
It was like when Coors, you
01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:08.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
couldn't get Coors.
01:04:08.333 --> 01:04:10.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
Remember?
01:04:10.966 --> 01:04:13.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
You had to have, what's that?
01:04:13.333 --> 01:04:14.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Couldn't get it east of the
01:04:14.433 --> 01:04:15.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
Rockies.
01:04:15.500 --> 01:04:16.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
>> Right, yeah.
01:04:16.666 --> 01:04:18.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
You had to have Burt Reynolds go
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:20.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
get it for you.
01:04:20.666 --> 01:04:25.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
But the Spotted Cow, yeah,
01:04:25.033 --> 01:04:27.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
New Glarus, unfortunately, that
01:04:27.900 --> 01:04:31.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
area is just kind of not a
01:04:31.166 --> 01:04:32.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
supper club area.
01:04:32.700 --> 01:04:35.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> Though, I would posit that
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:36.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
the closest thing, I would
01:04:36.600 --> 01:04:38.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
almost, I think I'm going to say
01:04:38.566 --> 01:04:40.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
it, I would say that the
01:04:40.033 --> 01:04:42.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Glarner Stube is a supper club.
01:04:42.166 --> 01:04:45.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
It has so many of the same
01:04:45.066 --> 01:04:46.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
elements.
01:04:46.733 --> 01:04:47.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
And even though the food is
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Swiss, but there's meat,
01:04:52.666 --> 01:04:54.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
there's fish, there's potatoes,
01:04:54.833 --> 01:04:57.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
there's salad, there's
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
Brandy Old Fashioneds,
01:04:58.066 --> 01:05:00.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
and there's Spotted Cow.
01:05:00.166 --> 01:05:02.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
>> There you go.
01:05:02.466 --> 01:05:04.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
A question back there?
01:05:09.900 --> 01:05:12.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> Just throw the mic at people.
01:05:12.566 --> 01:05:13.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
>> Go left and then right.
01:05:13.933 --> 01:05:15.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
>> I was just going to say that
01:05:15.300 --> 01:05:16.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
New Glarus used to have a
01:05:16.466 --> 01:05:17.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
supper club.
01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:18.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
It's called the William Tell,
01:05:18.533 --> 01:05:20.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
it's on the edge of town, and it
01:05:20.533 --> 01:05:21.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
was a regular supper club but it
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
had a slightly Swiss food twist
01:05:25.933 --> 01:05:26.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
to it.
01:05:26.966 --> 01:05:29.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> Yeah and they just closed.
01:05:29.166 --> 01:05:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
>> Yeah, about three years ago,
01:05:30.700 --> 01:05:31.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
four years ago.
01:05:31.700 --> 01:05:33.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
01:05:33.166 --> 01:05:38.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
They were, yeah.
01:05:38.333 --> 01:05:39.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
>> Is this thing on?
01:05:39.366 --> 01:05:40.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
One, two.
01:05:40.566 --> 01:05:41.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
I noticed over the years, many
01:05:41.700 --> 01:05:42.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
of the supper clubs that I
01:05:42.866 --> 01:05:45.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
visited typically waitresses
01:05:45.133 --> 01:05:48.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
rather than waiters and often
01:05:48.033 --> 01:05:51.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
wearing some kind of uniform or
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:56.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
sometimes black skirts or
01:05:56.733 --> 01:05:58.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
white blouse.
01:05:58.133 --> 01:05:59.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
Is that, uniforms and the
01:05:59.700 --> 01:06:01.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
waitresses, is that incidental
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
to the supper club or is that a
01:06:03.366 --> 01:06:04.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
component of it for a while?
01:06:04.866 --> 01:06:06.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
>> This is why I can't wait for
01:06:06.166 --> 01:06:07.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Jim Draeger's book to come out.
01:06:07.466 --> 01:06:08.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:06:08.633 --> 01:06:09.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
That's a good question,
01:06:09.466 --> 01:06:11.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
and I have no idea.
01:06:11.100 --> 01:06:12.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
>> Let me ask Ron.
01:06:12.133 --> 01:06:13.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
You've been to a million of
01:06:13.133 --> 01:06:14.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
them.
01:06:14.133 --> 01:06:15.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Have you seen anywhere the wait
01:06:15.166 --> 01:06:16.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
staff is wearing uniforms?
01:06:16.566 --> 01:06:17.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Sure.
01:06:17.500 --> 01:06:18.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
Yeah.
01:06:18.733 --> 01:06:20.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And I think it's, again, part of
01:06:20.333 --> 01:06:24.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
the, it's like you're going a
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
couple steps above a tavern.
01:06:27.133 --> 01:06:29.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
You're serving food with
01:06:29.733 --> 01:06:32.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
tablecloths and linen napkins or
01:06:32.133 --> 01:06:34.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
at least nice napkins.
01:06:34.200 --> 01:06:37.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
The wait staff isn't just
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:38.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
somebody who walks in
01:06:38.500 --> 01:06:40.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
in a T-shirt that says
01:06:40.066 --> 01:06:43.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
Zany's Sports Bar.
01:06:43.500 --> 01:06:45.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
They're wearing kind of a
01:06:45.266 --> 01:06:48.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
uniform for the place.
01:06:48.133 --> 01:06:51.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Yeah, and they've been there for
01:06:51.266 --> 01:06:52.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
a long time.
01:06:52.433 --> 01:06:53.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
A lot of the supper clubs I
01:06:53.533 --> 01:06:54.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
visit, they've said, oh, here's
01:06:54.933 --> 01:06:58.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
this person's been here for
01:06:58.733 --> 01:07:00.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
25 years and this person's been
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
here for 30 years and they make
01:07:03.466 --> 01:07:06.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
it part of their life and the
01:07:06.433 --> 01:07:08.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
uniform is a big part of that.
01:07:08.466 --> 01:07:12.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So it differentiates just the
01:07:12.166 --> 01:07:15.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
plain old service to something a
01:07:15.133 --> 01:07:17.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
little bit above, a little big
01:07:17.233 --> 01:07:19.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
nicer.
01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:21.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> I would add to that, not that
01:07:21.433 --> 01:07:22.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
I'm actually part of the panel
01:07:22.833 --> 01:07:25.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
but I have a microphone, that it
01:07:25.100 --> 01:07:28.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
strikes me as the people who are
01:07:28.866 --> 01:07:30.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
serving in a supper club are
01:07:30.600 --> 01:07:31.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
almost more in the European
01:07:31.733 --> 01:07:32.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
model of where it's actually a
01:07:32.966 --> 01:07:34.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
career.
01:07:34.033 --> 01:07:35.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
It's not just a job.
01:07:35.133 --> 01:07:36.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
>> Exactly, yeah.
01:07:36.200 --> 01:07:37.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
That's a good point to make
01:07:37.266 --> 01:07:38.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
because it is a career, and
01:07:38.866 --> 01:07:42.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
they've been there for a long
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
time.
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
>> In the back.
01:07:48.033 --> 01:07:49.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Can you speak to the impact
01:07:49.300 --> 01:07:50.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
of the smoking ban on supper
01:07:50.600 --> 01:07:53.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
clubs?
01:07:53.100 --> 01:07:54.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
01:07:54.366 --> 01:07:55.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
I did an interview upstairs
01:07:55.566 --> 01:07:57.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
about that, and it really had no
01:07:57.500 --> 01:07:58.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
effect.
01:07:58.966 --> 01:08:00.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
In fact, if anything, it brought
01:08:00.333 --> 01:08:03.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
more people into supper clubs
01:08:03.233 --> 01:08:07.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
because a lot of people were
01:08:07.033 --> 01:08:08.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
complaining how the bars were
01:08:08.433 --> 01:08:10.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
too close to the dining area and
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
the smoke would get into the
01:08:12.900 --> 01:08:15.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
dining area.
01:08:15.033 --> 01:08:17.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So now it really, the biggest
01:08:17.933 --> 01:08:20.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
effect that any laws had on
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:22.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
supper clubs is the stricter
01:08:22.233 --> 01:08:26.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
drunk driving rules, but not the
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
smoking.
01:08:28.866 --> 01:08:30.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
>> In the front.
01:08:30.900 --> 01:08:32.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> I'm a little interested in
01:08:32.300 --> 01:08:34.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
part of the economics of it,
01:08:34.633 --> 01:08:37.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
which is the distribution of
01:08:37.400 --> 01:08:38.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
where supper clubs are
01:08:38.733 --> 01:08:40.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
because you seldom hear about
01:08:40.333 --> 01:08:41.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
cut throat competition between
01:08:41.666 --> 01:08:43.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
supper clubs.
01:08:43.200 --> 01:08:45.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And one gets the feeling then
01:08:45.900 --> 01:08:48.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
that there's more than just
01:08:48.666 --> 01:08:51.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
economics driving the decision
01:08:51.566 --> 01:08:53.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
to open a supper club.
01:08:53.700 --> 01:08:55.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
We heard about that before.
01:08:55.200 --> 01:08:56.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
I have a parenthetic question
01:08:56.900 --> 01:09:00.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
for the first questioner in the
01:09:00.100 --> 01:09:01.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
audience.
01:09:01.066 --> 01:09:02.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
We're curious to know where his
01:09:02.633 --> 01:09:04.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
supper-club-to-be is.
01:09:04.466 --> 01:09:05.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:07.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
>> [INAUDIBLE]
01:09:07.033 --> 01:09:08.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
>> Where is that?
01:09:08.233 --> 01:09:09.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
>> Kingston, Wisconsin.
01:09:09.300 --> 01:09:10.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
>> [INAUDIBLE]
01:09:10.366 --> 01:09:12.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
>> I know where King is.
01:09:12.066 --> 01:09:13.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> About 30 miles south of...
01:09:13.733 --> 01:09:15.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
[INAUDIBLE]
01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:16.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
>> So for those of you who
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:17.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
might not have heard, about
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
20 miles south of Green Lake
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
in Amish country.
01:09:20.333 --> 01:09:21.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
>> The Kingston House.
01:09:21.566 --> 01:09:22.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
>> The Kingston House.
01:09:22.633 --> 01:09:23.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
>> When will you be opening?
01:09:23.766 --> 01:09:24.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
>> www...
01:09:24.933 --> 01:09:27.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:09:27.500 --> 01:09:29.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
KingstonHouseSupperClub.com.
01:09:29.500 --> 01:09:31.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
October 29th we open.
01:09:31.933 --> 01:09:33.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
>> Oh.
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:34.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
>> Great.
01:09:34.066 --> 01:09:37.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Kingston House Supper Club.
01:09:37.300 --> 01:09:39.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
>> But getting back to my
01:09:39.466 --> 01:09:40.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
question, what about competition
01:09:40.900 --> 01:09:41.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
between supper clubs?
01:09:41.933 --> 01:09:43.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
You tend not to see that, which
01:09:43.366 --> 01:09:44.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
we don't think is necessarily a
01:09:44.766 --> 01:09:46.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
bad thing.
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
>> I've asked supper club
01:09:47.266 --> 01:09:48.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
owners, I said the only other,
01:09:48.966 --> 01:09:52.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
especially in the holy land,
01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:56.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
which is east of Lake Winnebago,
01:09:56.066 --> 01:09:58.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
the only other places are other
01:09:58.033 --> 01:10:00.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
supper clubs, and all the owners
01:10:00.566 --> 01:10:02.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
will say, they're friends of
01:10:02.700 --> 01:10:04.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
mine.
01:10:04.133 --> 01:10:05.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
If they run out of a bottle of
01:10:05.500 --> 01:10:06.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
brandy or something, they can
01:10:06.666 --> 01:10:08.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
run over and get one.
01:10:08.900 --> 01:10:10.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
They're not in competition.
01:10:10.200 --> 01:10:13.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
They're friends and they're
01:10:13.200 --> 01:10:16.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
neighbors.
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:17.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Actually, I have a question
01:10:17.933 --> 01:10:19.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
to jump in.
01:10:19.400 --> 01:10:20.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
With the fact that supper clubs
01:10:20.933 --> 01:10:22.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
are often tied to the tourism
01:10:22.900 --> 01:10:24.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
industry and are in resort
01:10:24.433 --> 01:10:26.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
areas, do you have a sense, Ron
01:10:26.866 --> 01:10:29.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
or any of you, how many are
01:10:29.300 --> 01:10:31.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
actually seasonal?
01:10:31.133 --> 01:10:32.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And if so, how do they manage
01:10:32.400 --> 01:10:33.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
that?
01:10:33.533 --> 01:10:34.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
How do they make that work
01:10:34.733 --> 01:10:36.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
financially?
01:10:36.866 --> 01:10:41.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> A lot of them are seasonal.
01:10:41.166 --> 01:10:43.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
And some of them, there's a
01:10:43.200 --> 01:10:44.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
whole bunch of different
01:10:44.300 --> 01:10:45.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
versions.
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:47.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
I just came across this because
01:10:47.633 --> 01:10:50.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
I just came from doing all the
01:10:50.733 --> 01:10:52.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Northwoods supper clubs, not all
01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:54.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
of them but many, and this one
01:10:54.766 --> 01:10:56.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
guy is going okay,
01:10:56.333 --> 01:10:59.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
from October 1st to November 2nd
01:10:59.133 --> 01:11:01.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
we're open these days, and then
01:11:01.266 --> 01:11:03.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
December we're open these days.
01:11:03.033 --> 01:11:05.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
A lot of it depends on
01:11:05.866 --> 01:11:09.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
snowmobiling, ice fishing,
01:11:09.133 --> 01:11:12.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
summer vacations and so on, so
01:11:12.900 --> 01:11:14.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
the hours in the summer,
01:11:14.500 --> 01:11:16.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
obviously, are a lot longer and
01:11:16.533 --> 01:11:18.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
they're open longer.
01:11:18.166 --> 01:11:21.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
In the winter, a lot of places
01:11:21.166 --> 01:11:23.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
are either closed completely,
01:11:23.200 --> 01:11:25.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
like Ishnala.
01:11:25.566 --> 01:11:27.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
There are big windows.
01:11:27.300 --> 01:11:28.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
There's no insulation there so
01:11:28.533 --> 01:11:30.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
they have to close from
01:11:30.033 --> 01:11:33.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
October 1st to May 15th because
01:11:33.933 --> 01:11:36.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
it would be too cold or cost too
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:38.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
much to heat the place.
01:11:38.700 --> 01:11:41.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Other places, again, they're
01:11:41.166 --> 01:11:43.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
open year-round.
01:11:43.666 --> 01:11:47.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
The Steak Pit in Washburn, right
01:11:47.033 --> 01:11:48.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
on Lake Superior there, you'd
01:11:48.333 --> 01:11:50.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
think in the wintertime people
01:11:50.266 --> 01:11:51.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
wouldn't show up, but they said
01:11:51.466 --> 01:11:53.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
no, we get year-round traffic,
01:11:53.500 --> 01:11:56.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
and it's just easier to say
01:11:56.066 --> 01:11:58.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
we're open year-round and people
01:11:58.100 --> 01:11:59.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
know when we're open.
01:11:59.733 --> 01:12:01.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
So it kind of depends on the
01:12:01.433 --> 01:12:03.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
financial situation of the
01:12:03.633 --> 01:12:06.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
supper club and the area they're
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
in and how much traffic they get
01:12:10.033 --> 01:12:12.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
as far as the season.
01:12:12.633 --> 01:12:15.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
So I don't know.
01:12:15.400 --> 01:12:16.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
>> Yes.
01:12:16.633 --> 01:12:19.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
>> A comment.
01:12:19.833 --> 01:12:23.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
If one visits Germany, to this
01:12:23.300 --> 01:12:26.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
day in the small villages and
01:12:26.133 --> 01:12:28.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
communities there's almost
01:12:28.333 --> 01:12:32.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
always a gasthaus, guesthouse.
01:12:32.466 --> 01:12:34.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
It's not a hotel, although some
01:12:34.200 --> 01:12:35.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
of them do have rooms.
01:12:35.733 --> 01:12:38.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
But with this very large German
01:12:38.033 --> 01:12:39.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
background in Wisconsin, I think
01:12:39.633 --> 01:12:43.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
something like 50% or 60% ethnic
01:12:43.100 --> 01:12:45.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
background in Wisconsin is
01:12:45.333 --> 01:12:47.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
German, if you go to the holy
01:12:47.433 --> 01:12:49.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
land and you mention that, which
01:12:49.566 --> 01:12:51.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
is the east shore of
01:12:51.866 --> 01:12:53.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Lake Winnebago, just northeast
01:12:53.833 --> 01:12:56.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
of Fond du Lac.
01:12:56.566 --> 01:12:58.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
A German monk came there in the
01:12:58.566 --> 01:13:01.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
early 1800s, set up a string of
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
beautiful churches, all Catholic
01:13:05.433 --> 01:13:07.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
churches, which give it the name
01:13:07.766 --> 01:13:09.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
the holy land.
01:13:09.366 --> 01:13:10.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
I think every one of those
01:13:10.733 --> 01:13:12.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
little villages has a supper
01:13:12.200 --> 01:13:15.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
club probably on that German
01:13:15.166 --> 01:13:17.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
gasthaus model.
01:13:17.733 --> 01:13:18.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
I think somebody mentioned
01:13:18.933 --> 01:13:20.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
earlier, Calumet County has the
01:13:20.833 --> 01:13:23.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
largest concentration of
01:13:23.066 --> 01:13:25.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
supper clubs.
01:13:25.100 --> 01:13:27.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Any comment along those lines?
01:13:27.566 --> 01:13:29.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
>> I noticed that for every
01:13:29.466 --> 01:13:30.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
supper club I saw in the holy
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:31.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
land, there was a church right
01:13:31.766 --> 01:13:32.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
next door.
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:13:34.333 --> 01:13:35.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
And they oftentimes call
01:13:35.633 --> 01:13:38.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
the supper club, like
01:13:38.833 --> 01:13:41.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
Roepke's Supper Club in
01:13:41.833 --> 01:13:43.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
technically Chilton, but they're
01:13:43.966 --> 01:13:45.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
in Charlesburg, but they'll call
01:13:45.666 --> 01:13:48.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
it Charlesburg, the supper club.
01:13:48.866 --> 01:13:51.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
So they call it after the little
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
unincorporated town they're in.
01:13:54.033 --> 01:14:01.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
But that's, yeah, that's very
01:14:01.266 --> 01:14:05.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
common out there.
01:14:05.233 --> 01:14:06.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
When you're talking about
01:14:06.933 --> 01:14:08.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
Germany and beer, something I
01:14:08.500 --> 01:14:13.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
noticed about beer in Germany,
01:14:13.400 --> 01:14:14.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
because I've been to Germany
01:14:14.566 --> 01:14:16.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
several times, in supper clubs
01:14:16.633 --> 01:14:20.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
in Wisconsin is that you find,
01:14:20.566 --> 01:14:22.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
in Germany, the little local
01:14:22.466 --> 01:14:25.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
beers that are available just in
01:14:25.166 --> 01:14:27.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
that area, and the same thing
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:29.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
with Wisconsin supper clubs.
01:14:29.733 --> 01:14:32.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
Where you'll have O'So or you'll
01:14:32.966 --> 01:14:35.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
have Central Waters in
01:14:35.400 --> 01:14:38.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Stevens Point area, and Madison
01:14:38.833 --> 01:14:40.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
you'll have Supper Club
01:14:40.133 --> 01:14:42.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
and things.
01:14:42.066 --> 01:14:43.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
So I find that interesting
01:14:43.666 --> 01:14:45.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
where, like you said, they're
01:14:45.633 --> 01:14:47.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
supporting the local brewery.
01:14:47.900 --> 01:14:49.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
01:14:49.300 --> 01:14:50.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
But I also think, though, at
01:14:50.633 --> 01:14:51.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
supper clubs you're going to
01:14:51.966 --> 01:14:53.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
find a predominance of lighter
01:14:53.366 --> 01:14:55.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
lagers, whether it's the German
01:14:55.066 --> 01:14:57.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
influence in the supper club,
01:14:57.566 --> 01:14:58.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
but the supper club also is
01:14:58.866 --> 01:15:00.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
about the food experience.
01:15:00.533 --> 01:15:01.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So you don't necessarily want
01:15:01.900 --> 01:15:03.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
your big robust beers to get in
01:15:03.266 --> 01:15:04.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
the way of that overall
01:15:04.466 --> 01:15:06.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
experience.
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:07.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
I think supper clubs, listening
01:15:07.366 --> 01:15:09.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
to both of you, to me it's like
01:15:09.300 --> 01:15:10.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
that very much is in somewhat
01:15:10.666 --> 01:15:12.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
the German tradition of, we want
01:15:12.566 --> 01:15:13.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
beer at the table to be part of
01:15:13.900 --> 01:15:15.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
the conversation, but we don't
01:15:15.866 --> 01:15:17.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
want it to get in the way of the
01:15:17.533 --> 01:15:18.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
conversation.
01:15:18.833 --> 01:15:20.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
That's why fest beers are
01:15:20.300 --> 01:15:21.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
generally light beers today in
01:15:21.733 --> 01:15:23.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
Germany.
01:15:23.366 --> 01:15:24.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
They're there.
01:15:24.366 --> 01:15:25.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
They're sessionable.
01:15:25.366 --> 01:15:26.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
You can have more than one at a
01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:27.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
setting.
01:15:27.533 --> 01:15:28.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
They don't get in the way of the
01:15:28.633 --> 01:15:29.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
food.
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:30.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
They don't make you so sleepy
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:31.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
that the conversation is over
01:15:31.933 --> 01:15:33.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
after one.
01:15:33.366 --> 01:15:34.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
>> Terese.
01:15:34.633 --> 01:15:36.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> Well, I want to place my vote
01:15:36.466 --> 01:15:38.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
for, now that we're having local
01:15:38.266 --> 01:15:40.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
beers showing up at Wisconsin
01:15:40.133 --> 01:15:41.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
supper clubs, I want to see more
01:15:41.733 --> 01:15:44.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
local cheeses showing up.
01:15:44.433 --> 01:15:45.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
We have, the same thing is
01:15:45.700 --> 01:15:47.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
happening in the cheese industry
01:15:47.100 --> 01:15:49.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
that has been happening with
01:15:49.100 --> 01:15:51.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
micro breweries.
01:15:51.300 --> 01:15:52.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
We're just getting all these
01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:55.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
fantastic artisanal specialty
01:15:55.466 --> 01:15:57.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
micro brews, and wouldn't it be
01:15:57.400 --> 01:16:00.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
great if on that relish tray or
01:16:00.033 --> 01:16:03.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
in that salad or on that baked
01:16:03.066 --> 01:16:06.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
potato were the cheeses from the
01:16:06.433 --> 01:16:07.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
cheese factories that are also
01:16:07.866 --> 01:16:09.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
right down the road.
01:16:09.466 --> 01:16:11.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> Well, it's interesting you
01:16:11.133 --> 01:16:12.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
brought that up.
01:16:12.300 --> 01:16:14.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
I just was at...
01:16:14.700 --> 01:16:15.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
>> There's a challenge.
01:16:15.833 --> 01:16:17.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Yeah, got to find the local
01:16:17.400 --> 01:16:19.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
dairy guy.
01:16:19.166 --> 01:16:23.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
And that's where I heard a few
01:16:23.733 --> 01:16:25.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
times from supper club owners
01:16:25.933 --> 01:16:27.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
that, oh, I invented the deep
01:16:27.666 --> 01:16:29.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
fried cheese curd.
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:16:32.700 --> 01:16:34.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
It was because the local dairies
01:16:34.333 --> 01:16:35.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
were practically giving the
01:16:35.700 --> 01:16:37.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
stuff away a long time ago.
01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:39.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And then once they realized they
01:16:39.266 --> 01:16:43.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
could really do something with
01:16:43.700 --> 01:16:45.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
it, bread it and batter it or
01:16:45.433 --> 01:16:46.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
whatever and sell it.
01:16:46.833 --> 01:16:48.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
But also local wines are
01:16:48.433 --> 01:16:49.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
important.
01:16:49.966 --> 01:16:51.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And a lot of supper clubs are
01:16:51.500 --> 01:16:54.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
selling Wollersheim, and even in
01:16:54.733 --> 01:16:57.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
Milton there's a vineyard
01:16:57.200 --> 01:17:00.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
outside that the Buckhorn uses
01:17:00.066 --> 01:17:01.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
for their wine.
01:17:01.533 --> 01:17:04.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
So you can find some local wines
01:17:04.633 --> 01:17:09.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
in addition to dairy and beer.
01:17:09.066 --> 01:17:10.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
>> I might point out that
01:17:10.566 --> 01:17:11.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
New Glarus, who gave us
01:17:11.900 --> 01:17:15.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Spotted Cow, in the interest of
01:17:15.266 --> 01:17:16.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
the Old Fashioned, they have a
01:17:16.566 --> 01:17:18.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
beer that they introduced last
01:17:18.400 --> 01:17:20.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
February called Spiced Ale,
01:17:20.766 --> 01:17:22.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
and it's spiced with the same
01:17:22.166 --> 01:17:24.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
spices that you find in the
01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
Old Fashioned.
01:17:25.466 --> 01:17:27.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
So it tastes like a beer/Old
01:17:27.966 --> 01:17:30.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
Fashioned.
01:17:30.400 --> 01:17:31.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
>> Does it have a cherry in it?
01:17:31.666 --> 01:17:33.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> You can put a cherry in it if
01:17:33.100 --> 01:17:34.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
you like.
01:17:34.366 --> 01:17:35.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
01:17:35.666 --> 01:17:37.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
>> You could even put that onion
01:17:37.066 --> 01:17:38.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
and that Brussels sprout,
01:17:38.200 --> 01:17:39.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
everything you want in there.
01:17:39.466 --> 01:17:41.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
How about one more question.
01:17:41.300 --> 01:17:43.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
>> I grew up Catholic in
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Milwaukee, and I remember for,
01:17:46.466 --> 01:17:48.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
gosh, the first 25 years of my
01:17:48.066 --> 01:17:49.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
life, so probably the middle of
01:17:49.566 --> 01:17:51.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
the '80s, you never paid more
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
than like $5.50, maybe $6.00 for
01:17:54.066 --> 01:17:55.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
a fish fry.
01:17:55.933 --> 01:17:57.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And then it suddenly changed,
01:17:57.900 --> 01:17:59.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
and it changed everywhere really
01:17:59.100 --> 01:18:00.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
fast and just started going up,
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:01.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
up, up.
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:03.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
What would you attribute that
01:18:03.233 --> 01:18:04.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:7.5%
to?
01:18:04.500 --> 01:18:05.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Was it the lack of fish coming
01:18:05.933 --> 01:18:09.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
in locally, perhaps?
01:18:09.400 --> 01:18:10.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
>> Yeah, fish prices have
01:18:10.700 --> 01:18:12.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
increased.
01:18:12.100 --> 01:18:14.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
We're getting it from, like cod
01:18:14.500 --> 01:18:16.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
or haddock, it's coming from the
01:18:16.333 --> 01:18:19.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
North Pacific or North Atlantic.
01:18:19.166 --> 01:18:21.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And, again, the perch, if you're
01:18:21.966 --> 01:18:23.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
getting the real lake perch,
01:18:23.400 --> 01:18:26.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
it's coming from Lake Erie,
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
the Canadian side.
01:18:30.333 --> 01:18:32.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
And you see less of
01:18:32.200 --> 01:18:33.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
all-you-can-eat, too.
01:18:33.900 --> 01:18:35.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
>> Right.
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>> Which was popular.
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Do you have...
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>> Well, what it puts me in mind
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of is what I always, I can
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pretty much, if you were to
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transport me with my eyes closed
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to a fish fry, a supper club
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Friday night fish fry, pretty
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much anywhere in the state and I
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couldn't see what I was, you
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gave me the fork and I tasted
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the fish, I could probably tell
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you the town I was in or the
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area of the state I was in
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because, yes, it's gotten more
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expensive, but we still do have
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a very regional/local focus on
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the fish itself.
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If you're in the Green Bay area,
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you're going to get perch.
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And whether it's from the Bay or
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whether it's from Lake Erie, but
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it's going to be perch because
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that's a fish fry in Green Bay.
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If you're in the Northwoods,
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it's probably going to be
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bluegill or walleye.
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Along the Mississippi River,
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it's going to be catfish.
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So that's the thing that's
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interesting to me is that
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there's still, that's like the
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cheese, also like the beer,
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that's that local connection.
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>> Thank you all for coming out,
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and thank you to our panel.
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