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>> Good evening, everybody.
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What a great turn out.
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My name is Ed Van Gemert, and
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I am the Vice Provost of
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Libraries at the University of
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Wisconsin-Madison.
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I'd like to thank all of the
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parents, students, and community
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members for joining us for
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Our Funny University.
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This evening's panel, which will
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be up here in a moment,
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is sponsored by the
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UW Parents Program,
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Wisconsin Public Television,
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and the UW Libraries.
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I want to invite you to visit
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the UW Libraries soon, our web
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page, to learn more about
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Wisconsin's tradition in student
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humor, including the Dobbertin
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College humor collection.
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Our ringmaster this evening is
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Wisconsin Public Television's
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own Andy Moore, and Andy will be
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up in just a moment.
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Andy reports that he was the
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first Kentuckian to swim the
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100-yard breast stroke in
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under 60 seconds.
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[LAUGHTER]
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[APPLAUSE]
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I think so.
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I think so.
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He still swims today, as a
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matter of fact.
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So that feat earned him a full
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swimming scholarship to
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UW Madison, which led him to
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meet a girl from Milwaukee.
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Not sure if he met her in or out
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of the water.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Maybe he'll tell us that.
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But he married that girl, and
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together they've raised three
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children and, like many of us,
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have sprinted into middle age.
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[LAUGHTER}
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Andy began his journalism career
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at the Daily Cardinal, and he is
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currently the senior news
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producer at Wisconsin Public
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Television in Vilas Hall, that
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very same building in which he
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studied communication arts.
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Please help me welcome to the
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stage Andy Moore.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> Thank you very much.
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Can you hear me?
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Is this on?
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I feel like Madonna with this
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thing on.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Thank you for that lovely
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introduction, Ed.
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I want to make a special welcome
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to our family of viewers at
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Wisconsin Public Television who
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will be watching tonight, and
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it's very special to have you.
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It's very special to have you
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all here.
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We're going to have a lot of fun
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over the next hour.
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If you can't have fun with these
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two, then you should go home
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right now.
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I'm going to tell you, it's
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parents weekend.
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How many people are here because
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your student is here and it's
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parents weekend?
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That's a lot.
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Welcome to Madison.
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[APPLAUSE]
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My wife and I,
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I met her off the water.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Met here, but we just took our
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third, our youngest, to college
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in August, and we've had, at one
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point, three in college.
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How many people are first time
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parents of students in college?
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Well then you know.
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When you go through the
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literature and you make your
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choices and everything, you say
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to your child when you drop them
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off, follow your heart.
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Be you.
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Major in an area that you want
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to study in.
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And then like three or four
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tuition checks later, you say,
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you're majoring in what?
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[LAUGHTER]
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Really?
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Okay.
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All right.
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Well, what we have here are two
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UW students who turned a
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traditional Big Ten education
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into a career in the comedy
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business.
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It could be worse.
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They could be here defending
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the NFL.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But anyway, if a laugh was the
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equivalent of a dollar, these
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guys would be trillionaires.
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Unfortunately, that's not
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necessarily the case.
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I've had the extreme pleasure of
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getting to know these guys in
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their past life, and it's so
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much fun to have them, two icons
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like this, back on campus.
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So I'll tell you what the
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format's going to be, then we're
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going to get Scott Dikkers out
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here first.
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In fact, that's what will
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happen.
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I'll tell you what the format
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is, which is I'll talk to Scott,
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I'll introduce Scott and we'll
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talk for 10 or 15 minutes, which
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is a pittance, and then we'll
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make Scott move over in a chair
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and then we'll bring Jim out and
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we'll talk for 10 minutes and
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then we'll talk all together for
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another 10 or 15 minutes and
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then we can all go home and
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sleep it off.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Now I'm going to get on script
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because when you have people as
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accomplished as this, I can't
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even remember, and I've been
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following them since I graduated
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from UW.
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After 11 years, by the way.
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[LAUGHTER]
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I tell that to my journalism
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students.
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And now you have to listen
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to me.
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Scott Dikkers, look at how good
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looking he is now too, is a
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founding editor of The Onion,
as
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you all may know, and a number
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one New York Times bestselling
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author.
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He founded and edited
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The Onion's Our Dumb Century
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with headline after headline,
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which sold more than
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a half million copies.
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If laughs were a dollar, right?
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And was awarded the Thurber
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Prize for American Humor.
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You know, even runners-up for
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the Thurber Prize are funny.
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You ever heard of David Sedaris?
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Or Calvin Trillin?
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That's what the Thurber Prize is
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all about.
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Scott has one of those.
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Did you bring it with you?
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Oh, shoot.
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Okay.
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Let me cross that off the...
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No Thurber Prize with.
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Okay.
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He currently is teaching
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The Onion's writers training
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program at the Second City
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in Chicago.
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He's the creator of
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Jim's Journal, which we're going
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to hear about in about
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30 seconds, and is currently
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working on an animated TV pilot
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for Comedy Central.
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I'm sorry I had to read that,
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but I told you it was a lot.
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Please welcome back to Madison,
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Wisconsin, and the University of
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Wisconsin-Madison Scott Dikkers.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> Hi, Andy.
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Thank you.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Thank you for that very
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articulate Wikipedia-ish
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introduction.
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>> Sort of, yeah.
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Well, you know, it's kind of an
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unvarnished thing, Wikipedia,
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isn't it?
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>> Yeah.
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>> It's like I could...
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Yeah.
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Wait.
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Scott started, we mentioned
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The Daily Cardinal.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And Jim's Journal was a
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cartoon at The Daily Cardinal.
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>> Right.
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>> So you were in a newspaper
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setting.
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Tell us about Jim's Journal and
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about how the Cardinal maybe got
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you thinking about newspaper
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style.
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>> Right.
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The thing a lot of people don't
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realize is that Jim's Journal,
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which was stick figures, was run
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by The Daily Cardinal at first
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on a trial basis.
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After years of me trying to come
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up with cartoons, comic strip
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ideas and sell them to
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syndicates and newspapers,
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years, The Daily Cardinal was
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the first newspaper that deemed
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one of my comic strips just
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barely adequate enough to print.
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And they printed it on a trial
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basis, and by some miracle it
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caught on and people liked it.
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And so they ran it daily and
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they started paying me $5.00
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a week, and I was 23 years old
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and making money in the comedy
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business.
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I was sweet living.
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>> For people who haven't seen
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Jim's Journal, it really is a
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very modest beginning for the
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sophistication of what The Onion
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became.
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You said stick figure, but there
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was very little dialog as well.
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>> Yeah, I learned from
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Matt Groening, who did a great
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comic strip out in LA and
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I guess it was syndicated around
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called Life in Hell, and his
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theory was cartooning is all
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about writing.
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You don't have to be able to
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draw.
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And I actually could draw pretty
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well, but I decided this one was
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just going to be about the
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writing.
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So it would be like these little
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haikus, and then the stick
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figures were just incidental.
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And he had great success because
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he went on to create
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The Simpsons.
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And here I am doing an animated
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pilot of Comedy Central.
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So who knows, right?
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>> From stick figures to Comedy
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Central animated series.
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>> Yeah, exactly.
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So he did stick rabbits for his
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comic strip.
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So The Daily Cardinal was a
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place where a lot of people
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would hang out and draw cartoons
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and all the cartoonists knew
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each other.
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And it's crazy how many of those
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cartoonists at The Daily
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Cardinal ended up working at
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The Onion, and it was all
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happenstance.
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We didn't even know each other,
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but Todd Hanson, who was
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The Onion's head writer for
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many years, in fact he did a
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great interview with Marc Maron
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on the WTF podcast that
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Marc Maron says is his favorite
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of all the interviews he'd
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ever done.
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Todd Hanson, the soul of
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The Onion.
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He's been with The Onion since
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1990, I believe.
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Dan Vebber, who was our editor
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and went on to write for
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Futurama, he was a cartoonist at
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The Daily Cardinal.
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Mike Loew, who was our graphics
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editor for many years and on
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Our Dumb Century.
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He was a cartoonist at
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The Daily Cardinal.
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Maria Schneider, who wrote so
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many great stories for us.
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>> Ben, are you taking notes for
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next year's panel?
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[LAUGHTER]
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Okay.
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All right.
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>> Yeah, I think Ben has tracked
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down some of these people with
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the old phone numbers.
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>> But they were all
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cartoonists.
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The Onion...
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>> There were a couple of people
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from other walks of newspaper
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life.
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There were some ad people.
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Tim Keck, one of the business
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minds behind The Onion,
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initially worked on the ad staff
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at the Cardinal.
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But, no, everybody came from
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cartooning.
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There was really no, except
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for Tim.
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Oh, Ben Karlin is another
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good example.
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He worked in sports.
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And Ben is, he went on to become
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Jon Stewart's right-hand man on
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The Daily Show when Jon Stewart
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took over from Craig Kilborn,
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and they wanted The Daily Show
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to be more like a fake news
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show, more like The Onion.
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And so I remember having a lot
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of these talks with Ben about,
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well, it should be like a news
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show, and The Daily Show logo
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should have this bum-ba-bum-bum.
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And then he co-created the
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Colbert Show with Stephen, and
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now he works on Modern Family.
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He came from the Cardinal sports
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staff.
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>> Well, right, but you
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mentioned Ben as the only
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writer.
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And so what I'm curious about is
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The Onion has become so
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successful because it is such a
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straight faced attack, sideways
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attack on straight newspapering.
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>> Right.
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>> So cartoonists and one sports
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writer helped me make the leap
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to how lasered in you became on
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satirizing newspapers.
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>> Cartooning is writing.
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Cartooning is about poetry.
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And key component is
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Robert Siegel, who was the early
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master of that AP style, and he
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actually came here from
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Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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He came to Madison because he
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wanted to break into the comedy
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business by getting an
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internship at Whad'ya Know?
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That was his plan.
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And they weren't hiring so he
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came to The Onion, and we
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hired him.
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And he became our editor, and he
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left to write screenplays.
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And one of his screenplays was
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nominated for an Oscar.
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The Wrestler, he wrote
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The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke.
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>> Oh, right.
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I had no idea that most of the
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people you named were trotting
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North Orchard.
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>> Yeah, no.
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It was just a crazy little band
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of misfits, but a lot of them
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had similar backgrounds.
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>> When did you decide, and you
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sat probably bolt upright in bed
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and said I'm going to band
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together these misfits and
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create something called
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The Onion, how was that
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conceived?
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>> It's very much like a band.
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Everybody brought a certain
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thing to it.
11:43.200 --> 11:44.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
Tim Keck and Chris Johnson were
11:44.933 --> 11:46.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
the two business guys who
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founded it.
11:47.333 --> 11:48.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And I, because of Jim's Journal,
11:48.966 --> 11:50.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
I was sort of a comedy celebrity
11:50.266 --> 11:51.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
in Madison.
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They came to me and said, hey,
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we're going to start a humor
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publication, would you like to
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do some work for it?
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And I said, yeah, I'll draw
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cartoons for you.
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And I drew three different
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cartoons all under assumed names
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and with different drawing
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styles so it wouldn't look like
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the same guy was doing all the
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drawings like a bad high school
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yearbook.
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And after doing that for a week
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or two, they were just working
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their fingers to the bone trying
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to put out The Onion, sell all
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the ads and everything, so I
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volunteered to fill a position
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that they hadn't thought to
12:24.333 --> 12:25.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
fill, that of editor.
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[LAUGHTER]
12:28.966 --> 12:30.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And for no extra pay I became
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The Onion's editor for
12:32.333 --> 12:34.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
several months.
12:34.466 --> 12:35.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Just was a full-time job, more
12:35.700 --> 12:38.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
than full-time.
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And after that, after about six
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months of that, they offered to
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sell it to me.
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>> How much did you pay for it?
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>> I personally paid $3,000.
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But it was all the money I had
12:51.733 --> 12:52.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
in the world.
12:52.733 --> 12:53.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
It was a big deal for me.
12:53.833 --> 12:55.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
I was 24, 25.
12:55.366 --> 12:56.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
It was a lot of money.
12:56.766 --> 12:58.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
>> For sure.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And the net worth now?
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>> It's a lot.
13:02.766 --> 13:03.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
>> It's a lot of money.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> My accountant looks at the
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cost basis of that investment
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every year and just laughs
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out loud.
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>> I bet, I bet.
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It is a small city.
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It's a small campus.
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Scott and I worked together at
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Wisconsin Public Radio when you
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were in school, and we did some
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Sunday air shifts together.
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>> University of the Air.
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>> Oh, my god.
13:22.866 --> 13:23.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
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>> I was on the air and Scott
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was the production assistant
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putting different things in my
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ear to get callers on the air
13:31.033 --> 13:33.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
with questions.
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And if you want a rocket ride,
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be on live radio with
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Scott Dikkers talking in your
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ear about a guy from Cuba City.
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That was rough.
13:40.766 --> 13:42.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
Those were long days.
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>> I remember all those shifts
13:43.433 --> 13:45.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
at WHA at night rolling tape,
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and then I would be working on
13:46.466 --> 13:48.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
The Onion for an hour while the
13:48.033 --> 13:49.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
tape rolled.
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And then I'd slip in and say
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"Support for Wisconsin Public
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Radio comes from..."
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and I would go back to working
13:54.366 --> 13:55.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
on The Onion.
13:55.400 --> 13:56.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
>> Wow.
13:56.500 --> 13:57.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
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Crazy times.
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>> Where were The Onion offices
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at that time?
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>> They were on, see this is the
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crazy thing, you leave Madison,
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you forget the names of the
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streets.
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Gilman or Gorman.
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There's that one G street that
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sort of shoots diagonally out of
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State Street.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Gilman?
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There was a little basement
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office on Gilman that was the
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office where we were first
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nearly sued out of existence by
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a lawyer who represented
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Ginger Rogers and had heard that
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we had run a photo of her and
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knocked on our door and he was
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very impressive looking in a
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three-piece suit and heard that
14:30.566 --> 14:31.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
we had run the photo and rifled
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through our archives looking
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for it.
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And I'd knew we had.
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We had run it in an ad so it was
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the worst kind.
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It implies endorsement when
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using celebrities.
14:41.666 --> 14:43.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So that's a lawsuit you lose.
14:43.400 --> 14:44.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
And he came out of there and
14:44.966 --> 14:46.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
said, you know, I can't find
14:46.300 --> 14:48.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
that photo, and you know what,
14:48.233 --> 14:49.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
I'm glad because I think what
14:49.666 --> 14:50.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
you kids are doing is hilarious.
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[LAUGHTER]
14:53.100 --> 14:54.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
And he became our pro bono legal
14:54.766 --> 14:55.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
counsel.
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>> I'll be damned.
14:57.100 --> 14:58.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
14:58.266 --> 14:59.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Ginger Rogers' attorney.
14:59.466 --> 15:00.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
>> For 10 years he read every
15:00.700 --> 15:01.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
issue, and then a lot of big
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companies, big celebrities
15:03.033 --> 15:04.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
wanted to sue us, he would
15:04.233 --> 15:05.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
deflect all those lawsuits.
15:05.800 --> 15:08.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
He was a masterful attorney.
15:08.700 --> 15:10.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
>> What's another example of
15:10.033 --> 15:14.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
someone coming after you?
15:14.066 --> 15:16.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
>> Taco Bell wanted to sue us.
15:16.133 --> 15:17.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
At the time they were owned by
15:17.766 --> 15:19.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
PepsiCo.
15:19.566 --> 15:22.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
They didn't like our front page
15:22.400 --> 15:23.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
story, "Taco Bell Launches
15:23.633 --> 15:24.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
New Morning After Burrito."
15:24.966 --> 15:26.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
15:26.633 --> 15:28.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
>> I can't imagine why.
15:28.100 --> 15:29.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
>> The contraceptamelt.
15:29.666 --> 15:31.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
[LAUGHTER]
15:31.666 --> 15:33.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
Ken made that go away.
15:33.733 --> 15:35.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
There was one lawyer who called
15:35.000 --> 15:36.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
to sue us, and he was so angry.
15:36.966 --> 15:38.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
There was some celebrity we'd
15:38.166 --> 15:40.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
made fun of, and he said, look,
15:40.700 --> 15:42.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
I know you kids have freedom of
15:42.000 --> 15:43.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
the press and everything, but I
15:43.166 --> 15:44.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
have a very rich, angry client
15:44.633 --> 15:45.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
here who just might want to make
15:45.666 --> 15:47.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
a point and sue you out of
15:47.100 --> 15:48.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
existence.
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We know that's how the law
15:50.700 --> 15:51.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
works now.
15:51.533 --> 15:53.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
It doesn't matter justice and
15:53.200 --> 15:54.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
right and wrong.
15:54.266 --> 15:55.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
It's all about who has the most
15:55.333 --> 15:56.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
money.
15:56.533 --> 15:58.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
Sad reality.
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But he calls and we have Ken get
16:01.100 --> 16:03.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
back on the phone with this guy,
16:03.033 --> 16:04.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
and after 15 minutes they're
16:04.500 --> 16:05.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
laughing and sharing stories of
16:05.733 --> 16:06.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
their childhood and the guy buys
16:06.966 --> 16:08.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
a subscription to The Onion.
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[LAUGHTER]
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That was Ken's genius.
16:10.166 --> 16:11.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
I don't know what he did or how
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he did it, but we were lucky to
16:13.200 --> 16:14.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
have him.
16:14.366 --> 16:16.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
If he hadn't been there, and
16:16.233 --> 16:17.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
it's funny, there's so many
16:17.433 --> 16:18.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
little things about Madison and
16:18.833 --> 16:20.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
our past, like little people's
16:20.766 --> 16:22.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
contributions.
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Without Ken, there would have
16:23.866 --> 16:25.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
been no Onion.
16:25.000 --> 16:27.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
Driving here and passing all
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these little businesses that are
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still there that used to be the
16:29.366 --> 16:30.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
lifeblood of The Onion.
16:30.666 --> 16:32.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
The advertisers, these pizza
16:32.000 --> 16:33.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
places and the liquor stores
16:33.133 --> 16:34.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
that would run the coupons.
16:34.333 --> 16:35.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
>> Yeah.
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>> That's how we subsisted.
16:36.366 --> 16:37.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
We paid our printer on those,
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people's advertising dollars.
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A lot of them were in cash.
16:41.400 --> 16:42.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
And one of them actually was,
16:42.866 --> 16:44.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
one of those owners was indicted
16:44.133 --> 16:45.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65%
years later for laundering
16:45.233 --> 16:46.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
cocaine money.
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Some bar.
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And that's how we got paid.
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We got paid in cash a lot of the
16:49.766 --> 16:51.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
times.
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>> Obviously, people were coming
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after you with lawsuits.
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The paper was, in some part,
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thought of as a university arm
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of communication.
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What did the UW administration
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make of The Onion when it really
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got going?
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>> Yeah, well, it's so funny
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because at first I think Tim and
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Chris actually approached the
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university about getting some
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help or some funding, and for
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whatever reason it didn't work
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out.
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I think maybe they felt weird
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about it.
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They just wanted it to be
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self-sustaining.
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But one of our early issues in
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the first year was when
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Donna Shalala was in
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charge here.
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We put her nude on the cover.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And I think when you're...
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>> We have a slide of that.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> When you're young and you're
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making fun of authority figures,
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you hope that they're, oh,
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those kids!
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But she sent us a nice letter.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And complimented our coverage.
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The governor was not so kind.
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Governor Tommy Thompson.
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>> Talk about that headline.
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>> He was really angry.
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So that headline was: "Governor
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Proclaims November Masturbation
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Month."
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Did he think it was October?
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Well, the main issue was with
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the photo.
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I called his office and spoke to
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his press secretary who said,
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oh, yeah, The Onion, I've seen
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that around.
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No, I'm not going to give you a
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photo.
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So I called the State Journal
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and they had much better photos.
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They had him at a podium going
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like this.
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The other place just had his
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standard politician in front of
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the flag or whatever.
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So we ran that but I put a
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special thanks to that press
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secretary on the side of the
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photo when we ran it.
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That was the guy who called us
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super pissed.
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Because he got yelled at by the
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governor for giving us a photo,
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which he didn't do.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But they prevented the,
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Apple computers was a big
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supplier of computers for the
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state of Wisconsin, and we were
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trying to get them to advertise.
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National ads were like the holy
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grail because they were like big
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money and they were fairly
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reliable.
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But the state of Wisconsin
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stepped in and prevented us from
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getting those ads for a long
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time because they were so angry
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about that.
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>> And now it seems like you
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must be turning, well nobody
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turns ad revenue away.
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>> Oh, it's a cut-throat
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business.
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The Onion's ad staff is out
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there pounding the pavement
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every day.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Competing against
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Funny or Die and like a thousand
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other websites.
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>> Sure.
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>> I'm so glad I'm not on the ad
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staff.
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>> That would be rough.
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The headlines are gold, then you
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read the stories and it gets
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even more golden.
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But what three things does a
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good Onion headline have going
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for it?
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>> I tend to think of the mix of
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the whole experience of
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The Onion.
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Like you go to the website and
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you see this mosaic of stories,
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and there should be a good mix.
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There should be a laugher, what
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I call a laugher.
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And it may not be the most
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intelligent or the meatiest or
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whatever, but it should make you
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laugh.
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But then there should definitely
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be one that is smart and
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satirical.
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And then there should be one
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more thing that just hits you on
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some personal level, like a
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personal experience that's
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relatable.
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And the writers at The Onion
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now are so skilled and they
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work so hard.
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They write so much more than we
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did because of the website.
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They're like constantly putting
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up new stories.
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Their standard is like they try
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to get that in every headline,
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I think.
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But it's hard if you're doing a
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story about ISIS, there's not
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going to be very much personally
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relatable there.
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So I think those are kind of the
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big things that we try to hit.
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And when I say smart, that's an
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umbrella of a whole bunch of
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other things we're trying
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to hit.
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We want to be parodying
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the news media.
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We want to be cutting down some
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authority, exposing some foible.
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Satire is all about pointing out
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what's wrong with the world or
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with society.
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>> Given those ingredients, what
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is your, I know this is a hard
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question, it's like choosing a
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child, but what is your favorite
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Onion headline of all time?
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>> Yeah, there have been
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millions of Onion headlines,
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I'm sure.
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But yeah, people ask me that a
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lot, so I picked one.
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I've got one that I use.
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But I think it's my favorite
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because it's so amazing.
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I like when The Onion predicts
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the future accurately.
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That's my favorite.
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And we've done it a few times,
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and sometimes in very painful
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ways.
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>> Well, masturbation month.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Yeah.
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Yeah, because now that's a
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real...
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>> Month.
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>> Celebration in Wisconsin.
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>> Coming up.
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>> And it's coming right up.
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>> Yep.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> So yeah, my favorite story,
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it was actually written by
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Todd Hanson, and the headline
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was, in the year 2000 after the
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Supreme Court decided for
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George Bush after the contested
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election, and the headline was
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a picture of Bush at a podium,
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headline: Bush: "Our long
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national nightmare of peace
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and prosperity is finally over."
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The story was genius because
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Todd spelled out the next eight
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years, and when you look at it
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now, and Tom Friedman actually
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wrote a piece about this in the
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Times, it's like a history book.
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He said that there would be an
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war over oil, there would be a
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crash.
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He had everything in there.
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It was amazing.
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It was just funny to have Bush
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proudly proclaiming this is what
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he was going to do.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So, yeah, that's my favorite
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story.
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>> Can you hang around for a
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little while longer?
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You're not going anywhere,
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are you?
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>> I'd be delighted to hang out
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with Jim.
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>> Because we're going to get
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someone else up here who has a
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knack for mixing fantasy
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with fact.
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We're going to ask Scott to do
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the Tom Cruise one down the
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chair thing here, and then I'm
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going to go over here because
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this is how we rehearsed it.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And I'm going to introduce you
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to our next guest.
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This is, is everybody having fun
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so far?
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I hope so.
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[APPLAUSE]
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We're going to move along now,
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like I said, just as we
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predicted with the format,
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and I'm going to go back on this
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copy and I'm going to pick this
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up again too because Jim Mallon
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is also so accomplished that I
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really don't want to miss
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anything.
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And these slides are going to
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put way too much emphasis on
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Madison.
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We're going to talk about
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Madison and beyond and on into
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Mystery Science Theater.
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But Jim is an American
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television and film producer and
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writer, most notable for being
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the producer, director, and
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puppeteer on the Emmy nominated,
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Peabody Award winning Comedy
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Central and Sci-Fi series
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Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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How about a hand for MST 3000.
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[APPLAUSE]
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I'm going to go back.
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Not unlike the Thurber Award,
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this is big stuff.
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Not a lot of people out of
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broadcasting know about the
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Peabody, but for print guys,
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it's the Pulitzer.
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For people in broadcasting film,
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it's the Peabody.
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>> The Onion also won a Peabody.
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>> The Onion also won a Peabody.
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>> Not to take anything away
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from Jim.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Did you know that The Onion
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also won a Peabody?
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But I'll tell you who else did.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Freaking Breaking Bad and
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Independent Lens.
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This is the kind of company that
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Mr. Mallon keeps and
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Mr. Dikkers keeps.
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Jim began producing television
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and comedy movies while in
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high school, continued while
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attending UW-Madison.
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At Madison, Mallon was the first
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two-term president of the
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Wisconsin Student Association.
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There he is on inauguration day
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with Leon Varjian, his vice
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president.
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And he ran the Pail and Shovel
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on the Pail and Shovel party
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ticket.
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You can see how they spent the
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students' money.
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[LAUGHTER]
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With the Statue of Liberty,
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which you hear about, and
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pink flamingos.
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These are iconic images of
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Madison, and there they are,
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Mallon and Varjian.
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[APPLAUSE]
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And here he is for real.
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Jim Mallon.
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[APPLAUSE]
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>> Hello.
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>> Mr. President.
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>> Hello.
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>> Mr. President, sir.
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We'll start with on campus, and
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then I want to get to
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Mystery Science Theater.
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>> Can I jump in for a second?
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>> Please.
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>> I think I can speak for
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Scott, to be invited back to a
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school you went to undergrad for
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an honorary doctorate degree is
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a dream that I'm sure very few
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people have realized.
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[LAUGHTER]
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[APPLAUSE]
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Master's honorary.
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Key to the city maybe?
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I guess not.
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Anyway, it's great to be here.
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>> It's great to have you
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Dr. Mallon.
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[LAUGHTER]
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We appreciate you coming back.
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You guys have a lot in common
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with how you played this city
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and how this city played along
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with you.
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When we have our joint
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discussion here in a couple of
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minutes, not to be too boring
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with forecasting, I'm going to
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get more into sort of parental
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influence and things like that
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and experience on campus.
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But we'll keep it kind of
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professional for now and based
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on some of Jim's past history
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into the Pail and Shovel.
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How did the Pail and Shovel come
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into being?
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>> I came to Madison my junior
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year determined to do something,
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and the very first week,
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registration week, I went out on
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the mall where the tables were
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set up with all the political
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groups and there was this card
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table set up and there was this
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kind of wild looking guy with a
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table that said, please sign
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this petition to change the
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University of Wisconsin to the
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University of New Jersey.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And I had no idea what this was,
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and I thought this is just
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insane.
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I said, what is this all about?
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And he said, well, Wisconsin
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has, what, 12 university ofs and
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New Jersey has none, so we could
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easily spare one.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And he had a logo drawn up.
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It was really brilliant that
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showed a bunch of factories with
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a ton of smoke going across that
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top.
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>> I remember the T-shirts.
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>> Yeah, it would be the new
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University of New Jersey
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T-shirt.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So I met him and just hung
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around and he said, well, why
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don't you come out tomorrow,
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we'll be doing this again.
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And I just started working with
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him and we ended up doing, I
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don't know, maybe 60-70
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different skits over the course
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of the year.
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And then in the spring, the
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signs came out to run for
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student government, president
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and vice president.
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We threw our hats in the ring.
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>> And you're talking about
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Leon Varjian, of course.
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>> That's correct.
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>> Is Leon, he's actually in
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New Jersey now, isn't he?
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>> Yeah, he's teaching high
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school math when last I heard.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Do you ever talk to him
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anymore?
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>> I haven't talked to him in
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quite a while, no.
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>> The penny rebate was one of
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my favorites.
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I was in school here when this
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happened, and we had to go
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through the armory at the end of
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the registration day, which was
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a hellish day.
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It wasn't like you did it online
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or anything.
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Remember?
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And there was the Pail and
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Shovel giving you, as promised.
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>> Well, it was a big deal
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because Chrysler at that time
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was offering rebates on all
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their cars.
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Evidently that was some sort of
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breakthrough marketing
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technique.
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You get 20 bucks back if you buy
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a Safari wagon or something.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So we went out and we, it was
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actually quite a chore, we had
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to get 30,000 pennies, and it
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covered a table in my apartment
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about this high.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And then we had to take each
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penny and with some latex glue,
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glue it on the card, and it
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took like a week.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Calling in every friend I had to
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come in around the table and
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pull a shift pulling this
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together.
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And we needed up getting every
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student a penny back that year.
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>> It's like a poor man's
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Al Capone or something.
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>> Right.
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It was repeated later on when we
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did one of our toga parties, the
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first one, and we had 10,000
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students out in lot 60 in a
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tent, and for some reason the
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university gave us the right to
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the beer concession, which I'll
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never understand.
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[LAUGHTER]
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We ended up with $30,000 in
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basically single bills and
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another huge leaf pile at the
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end of the night with no idea
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what to do with it.
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So we put it all in grocery bags
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and stuffed it into the
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Park Bank night depository box.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And the next day we got a
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panicked call.
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They said, of course you've
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counted all of this.
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And of course we hadn't.
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And that shock was only topped a
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few months later when we started
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giving students and people,
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reporters to our office million
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dollar checks.
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We would write them right out of
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the student government
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checkbook.
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And someone, we don't know who,
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tried to pass it in a bank in
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Florida.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So I got a call at 9:00 in the
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morning from panicked bank
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officials saying did you write a
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million dollar check?
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>> WSA.
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>> Right, with our clown logo on
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there.
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>> And the horn.
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I think there was a horn too.
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>> Right, there was a horn too,
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of course.
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>> Oh, my god, yeah.
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What year was this?
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The first year of Pail and
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Shovel?
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>> '79.
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>> What do you think, there was
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a very high tolerance for
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zaniness in this city then.
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It seems to me it's much more
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serious around here now and I
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think in life in general but on
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this campus too.
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And why do you think people were
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ready to play so hard with you
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guys?
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>> Well, I think tolerance is a
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really big word.
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I think we benefited by all the
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heavy lifting that the students
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here in the '60s did to do
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things that we take for granted
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today, like co-ed dorms.
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That was unheard of at the time.
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That was unspeakable
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practically.
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And so there was a lot of work
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done by the activists until
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about 1974 when I started, and
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we got to take advantage of all
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their hard work, including a
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very tolerant administration,
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a very tolerant police force
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and so on.
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>> Well, tolerance, as these
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pictures demonstrate, really
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ruled the day.
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Flamingos were first and then
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the statue.
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>> Other way around.
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>> Other way around.
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I want to ask you to walk us
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through both just from sort of
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the genesis to the execution,
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but which one should we ask you
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to do first?
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>> The statue makes sense to
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talk about first because it was
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the first.
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>> Okay.
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>> In essence, what we did with
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our campaign was promise the
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moon.
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In fact, if we could have
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brought the moon to campus, we
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would have.
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So we promised to flood the
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stadium and have mock naval
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battles in Camp Randall Stadium.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And we thought we'd paint the
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gutters day glow colors so kids
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stumbling home from the bars
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could find their way back to
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their apartments and
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dormitories.
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And one of the promises was to
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bring the Statue of Liberty to
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Madison, which we just said we
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would, and we had it in a
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drawing in some of our
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brochures.
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And about three weeks after we
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won the election, which, by the
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the way, we owe to an attorney,
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which is kind of interesting
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hearing your story, a very
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flamboyant attorney named
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Eddie Ben Elson who some people
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might remember.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Was really responsible of
32:18.766 --> 32:20.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
getting us into power and
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keeping us there.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But we got a call from a guy
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named Jim Webster who was a
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carpenter, and he had a little
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shop on the east side of town.
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And he said how would you like
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to make one of you campaign
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promises come true?
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And we said sure.
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He said, I'll build that Statue
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of Liberty.
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And we just thought, oh, this
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would be fantastic.
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So we had to sneak it through
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the university, and the way we
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did that is we created a line
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item in the senate called
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The Spring Happening.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And we needed $5,000 for plywood
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to help build objects for
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The Spring Happening.
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Now, this was close enough to
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the 1960s when spontaneous
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artistic events seemed to be
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ruling the day, and so no one
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batted an eye.
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And we got all this money, and
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we funneled it all the way out
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to this shop.
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And The Daily Cardinal got wind,
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and put their top news
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sleuths on us.
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>> Damn press.
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>> Yeah.
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And they snuck a camera in the
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window of that shop and took a
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picture of something that was
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really small, about this big,
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and said this is what we're
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spending this $5,000 on.
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And then about two weeks later,
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we went out on the ice and we
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put up this gigantic statue.
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>> Take another minute and talk
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about that day or night when
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that went up.
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>> Yeah, that was mid-winter.
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It was in January.
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It was cold as hell.
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It was one of those great winter
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nights where it's sort of
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snowing and sort of not.
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We had bamboozled every person
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we knew to help with this.
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This was a mammoth.
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The torch alone was like 40-50
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feet high, and the head was all
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these different pieces.
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And it took a small army to pull
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it together.
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Now, the guy that built it was a
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great carpenter but a terrible
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mathematician.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So he had a tower erected which
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was shorter than the torch, and
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we were to crank the torch up
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to the tower but the math
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wasn't right.
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So it got about a foot off the
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ground and the tension was so
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great the turnbuckle broke and
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the thing hit the ice.
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We could have all gone through
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if the ice hadn't been strong
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enough.
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And then in that moment he
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decided to let all of his
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frustration out on me for
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pushing him to bring this thing
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out here in the middle of the
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night and so on and so forth.
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And then the next day we got
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scaffolding and we were able to
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erect the statue.
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I think there were a lot of
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great moments.
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There was a Nightly News crew of
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Huntley-Brinkley on NBC, and we
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made Chet Huntley laugh because
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we had that, and this was a guy
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that never smiled at all.
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>> Right.
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>> So that was one.
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>> Reported the story?
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>> Right.
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And Northwest Airline changed
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their flight path into the
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airport so they could arc by.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Changing aircraft traffic.
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[LAUGHTER]
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That's a resume builder.
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Now, what about the flamingos?
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Who thought of that?
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>> We won a second term by a
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landslide, and then everyone was
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saying, well, how are they going
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to top that?
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And we were struggling with that
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too.
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That was a tough thing to figure
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out how to top.
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And one day my roommate,
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Mike McDonald, said, oh, you
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should just put a bunch of lawn
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ornaments out on Bascom Hill.
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And that became a few to, no, we
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should do a lot, and then we
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should do a ton.
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And so we searched out and at
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that time there was only two
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companies in America that made
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them, and one was in Chicago.
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And we bought 1,006.
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I think we got a buck a bird was
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the discount we got.
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And we sent a truck down to
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Chicago and picked those
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things up.
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And myself and my sisters here
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tonight and about 20 other
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people put these damn things
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together and put them out there.
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And they didn't last very long.
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They were out there for maybe, I
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don't know, an hour or two.
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But people started taking them,
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which was great because then
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they ended up all over the city
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and up on, what's this,
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Old Science Hall's tower.
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There was one put up there.
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There were people's apartments
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and that.
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>> They were coveted.
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All the while you're working
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in Vilas Hall for WHA TV WPT and
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learning some chops with some
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com arts stuff and making films.
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Vern and Evelyn was an Access TV
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show, was it not?
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>> Yeah, the sequence was a
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little, after WHA then we went
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on to cable access with the
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Vern and Evelyn Show.
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Vern and Evelyn were the two
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mice we had in our office at the
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student government office.
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We provided great falsetto
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voices, which I'd later reprise
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for Gypsy in Mystery Science
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Theater.
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And then I moved to Minneapolis
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for a couple of years but came
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back to WHA and started out my
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professional television career
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there.
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>> Quickly tell us how that
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helped you as you went on and
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then developed Mystery Science
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Theater.
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>> It was very simple.
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It was a really tremendous place
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to work with tremendous
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production ethic.
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People really caring about the
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work that they do.
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And I learned a ton.
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I was a sound tech and ended up
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working with a number of
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producers and videographers and
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really learned the craft of
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television from those people.
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That work ethic ultimately
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helped a lot when it came time
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to build our own production
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facility.
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>> Sure.
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Then you went to an independent
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station in The Cities.
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>> Yes.
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>> And then Mystery Science
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Theater took root somehow.
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Tell us about the beginning of
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MST.
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>> There's a guy who's a
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billionaire named Sillerman who
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used to own Ticketmaster and
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Legacy Broadcasting.
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He's a huge mogul.
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And at the time he was finding
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unused television licenses, sort
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of like we'd find an old house
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and fix it up and flip it.
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And that's exactly what KTMA
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was.
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So he put the bare minimal into
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the station, including the film
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library.
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So we had absolutely the worst
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movies ever made in this
38:15.300 --> 38:16.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
library.
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So when Joel Hodgson, who I'd
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known through a different
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connection, came in with this
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idea of why don't we make fun of
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bad movies, it was just
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happenstance, the planets had
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aligned, that we happened to
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have a library of just atrocious
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films ready to go.
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>> Whose idea was it to, the
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whole alien capture and the
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puppets and the commentary?
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>> There was a tremendously
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talented group of people that
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came together somewhat united by
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the standup community in
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Minneapolis.
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Kevin Murphy, who you know, was
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a technician at WHA, and I hired
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him specifically because I
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wanted to make comedy in
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Minneapolis and I needed someone
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that could shoot and I knew that
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he could do that and be a ham on
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camera and he certainly is.
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And he ended up being Tom Servo
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on Mystery Science Theater for
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the run of the series.
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So Mystery Science was, the way
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I look at it, a collaboration
39:12.333 --> 39:13.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
from the beginning.
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Joel had this kind of cool idea
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about leaving the host in during
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the movies rather the matinee
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movie format where the host
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would be at the commercial
39:20.433 --> 39:21.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
breaks.
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And then that was about it.
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And then Trace Beaulieu picked
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up Crow and breathed life into
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that robot, and eventually Kevin
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did Tom Servo and I did Gypsy.
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And it sort of evolved on
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channel 23 to the point where we
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could put together a best of
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reel, seven minutes, and that
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was probably the best of all of
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the shows we had done.
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And it just, again, another
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planet that lined up was that
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HBO was trying to do the first
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24-hour comedy channel and
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needed programming.
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And this is a show that they
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negotiated.
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They paid us peanuts, but our
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agent said, fine, but they get
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to own it, which wouldn't be
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done today, and that made all
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the difference.
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So we still to this day own the
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copyright on that show.
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>> How many did you do at KTMA
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before you took it off?
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>> About 23.
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>> Yes.
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What was the best one?
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>> There weren't any best ones.
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[LAUGHTER]
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They were all pretty bad.
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Our budget per show was $50.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Joel took $25, leaving $25 for
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the rest of the crew, rest of
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the performers that we had
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in there.
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So we couldn't afford to
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write it.
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It was all improved.
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And what we realized is that was
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okay, but we'd be much stronger
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if we could actually get a team
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of writers together and work on
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it and edit and take a number of
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takes on it and so on.
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So eventually with the first
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season with the comedy channel
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we were able to afford a staff
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of writers.
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>> The improv and impromptu
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obviously served you well.
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Once people started writing,
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were you ever afraid that you
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were going to lose that
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spontaneity and the zaniness
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that comes with the
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off-the-cuff?
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>> One of the things that was
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really brilliant about this show
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is we were reactive to someone
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else's art.
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So we all do this, we're at home
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and the local news people say
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something absolutely absurd and
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ridiculous and we react.
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It's a very human thing.
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And so we were never really
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short of the resources to do
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that because there was always
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the next film and the next crazy
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scenario and the next goofy plot
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and the next goofy line and that
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drove us.
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So we were almost replenished
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every time we got a new movie
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to do.
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>> What were the ingredients for
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a good film, other than it being
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super crappy?
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> There had to be the intention
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to try to make a good movie.
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Despite what ends up on the
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screen, there had to be somebody
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that believed in it.
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If it was done tongue in cheek,
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let's make a purposely crappy
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movie, that wouldn't work.
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That didn't hold up.
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But if the people behind the
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film, the fertilizer salesman
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from El Paso, Texas, that did
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Manos: The Hands of Fate, his
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conviction drove this crazy
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assemblage of weird images of
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women wrestling in negligees and
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strange goings on on the mesas
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of Texas.
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>> Thank you for that segue.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Because obviously the question
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is: what can we learn from
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all of this?
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[LAUGHTER]
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From women in negligees to
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Ginger Rogers' attorney.
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I want to open it up now to
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everybody in a super clumsy talk
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in a two-guy way and try to get
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at some of that.
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Try to just kind of one at at
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time here but chime in as you
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wish.
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>> Do we need to ring a bell or
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something?
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay.
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A buzzer.
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>> Where's the bell.
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We asked for a bell for this set
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and a fountain.
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There's no fountain and there's
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no bell.
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Did you know what you wanted to
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do when you were freshman age in
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college?
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>> Yeah I wanted to be a
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cartoonist.
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And that was my specific goal.
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My broader goal was I wanted to
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be in the comedy business.
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I picked cartooning because it
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was the cheapest, lowest rung of
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the comedy business.
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You just needed paper and pens
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and you could do it.
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That's about all I had.
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So it was just luck that that
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led to other things for me.
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>> What's your hometown?
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>> Minneapolis.
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Same as Jim.
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>> Oh, man, Minneapolis to
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Madison.
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What were your parents' reaction
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to the whole cartoon objective?
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>> When they saw me coming up
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with all these comic strip ideas
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and sending them out and getting
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all these rejection letters back
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for years, they were probably
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wondering what had gone wrong.
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My dad recommended the army.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Because they'd pay for
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your college.
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And I had not gone to college by
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that point.
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Right out of high school I was
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sending cartoons out, and I
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didn't go to college right away.
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But they were supportive enough
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they were that generation where
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their parents were super
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controlling and wanted them to
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do a certain thing of a certain
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way.
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And they were sort of '70s
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parents.
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They were like whatever makes
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you feel good, man.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Type of parents.
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But like I said, I do thing
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there was some concern when the
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obsession with cartooning just
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kept going on and on and on.
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But then once that led to
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The Onion and The Onion
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actually started making money
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and then later on when The Onion
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became well known and they would
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hear from people and they were
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proud to say, well, that's our
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son who's involved with that.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Then they got it.
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It took 15-20 years, but they
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got it.
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No, they were always very
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supportive.
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>> Then they saw the master
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plan.
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>> Yeah.
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Then I saw the master plan.
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>> Yes.
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>> But no, it was just be in the
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comedy business in some fashion.
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>> What about you, Jim, when you
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arrived at UW-Madison did you
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know what you wanted to do when
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you grew up?
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>> I think I knew what I wanted
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to do but I didn't have the
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courage to follow it.
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So I remember I had a humanities
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class in high school and they
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went around the room one day
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without telling us first, asking
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what did we want to be and I
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remember saying I want to make a
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living doing television comedy.
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So I knew that then, but when I
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got to college, my parents were
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sort of like group A that you
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were describing.
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Children of the Depression and
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GI Bill people, where the
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college education had meant a
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huge change in their life for
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the better.
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They didn't have any basis for
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the arts.
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They had no way to really
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understand and support the arts.
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They weren't exactly against it,
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but, gee, you could make a good
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lawyer or, gee, you could be an
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engineer was sort of the way
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they looked at it.
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And, again, I had a very similar
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experience.
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It wasn't until some of the
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stuff that I started doing
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started to make the paper, and I
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don't think they ever fully
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understood it but somebody was
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liking what was going on and
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that gave a little bit of
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confidence and they were
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supportive from then on.
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>> What was the best class you
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took here?
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>> I had the advantage of taking
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lighting courses from
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Gilbert Hemsley, who I think the
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theater is named after him,
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during the late '70s, and he was
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this larger than life lighting
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designer who had seven or eight
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shows on Broadway during our
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time in Madison.
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And he was just completely
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inspiring.
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He encouraged us to go much
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bigger than we were thinking.
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And his first task of students
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is making yourself the perfect
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tequila sunrise.
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That sort of thing.
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Really just sort of getting us
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to be creative in even small
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things.
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Or even go watch a sunset.
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But he got us into internships
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around the country, and I did an
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internship at the
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Boston Opera Company.
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It was very inspiring.
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So I loved that class.
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I thought that guy was an
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inspiration.
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>> Was there a class that stands
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out for you, Scott, that you
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took here?
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>> I didn't take a lot of
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classes here, but one was a
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journalism class where I learned
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the fundamentals of journalism,
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which I really didn't know.
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But it was very serious.
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It was very hardcore.
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You know the journalism school
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is very good here, as you well
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know.
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And little did I know at the
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time and little did that
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professor know, I was learning
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all those fundamentals so I
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could violate every single one
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of them.
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[LAUGHTER]
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In The Onion.
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But you got to know which ones
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to violate to do parody well.
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If you're going to do a parody
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of a newspaper.
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>> Sure.
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You've got to know the rules
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before you can break them.
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>> Exactly.
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Got to learn the ground rules
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before you can fly.
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That's what a creative writing
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teacher here said to me.
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>> What do you wish, if
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anything, someone had pulled you
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aside in those early days and
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said to have made your broken
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field running path less broken
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field and a little more linear,
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Jim?
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>> I actually don't think that
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would have necessarily been a
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good thing.
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A lot of times my path has been
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hard and confusing.
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I think of Steve Jobs when he
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gave that graduation speech at
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Stanford and he talks about how
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when you're in the middle of
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something you can't really see
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how it's all going to fit
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together but you can look back
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and see the thread.
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I think part of the success I
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had was because it was difficult
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and because it forced me to be
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more resourceful I think,
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actually, what I found later
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when the money came, and the
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money came pretty well with
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Mystery Science Theater, it
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became harder to create.
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There was something about having
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less that forced and inner
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resource that I think was very
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valuable.
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So I don't even know if I would
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have wanted it to be easier.
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>> I couldn't agree more.
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You look at how things went, and
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it's like you can't imagine them
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going differently.
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But at the same time, at the
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time I look back and it's like,
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oh my god, why did you do this
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in Madison, Wisconsin.
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This was the most crowded
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newspaper market in the country.
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There were like seven free
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weekly newspapers.
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The idea that you would start a
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newspaper and compete with them,
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madness.
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If someone had said go to
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New York, and if we had done it,
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we would have gotten successful
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much more quickly because
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everybody would have seen it.
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However, we wouldn't have been
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put in the years.
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We wouldn't have done our
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apprenticeship, and we wouldn't
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have put Malcolm Gladwell's
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10,000 hours.
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At the time The Onion went
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online, we had been doing it
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obsessively for about 10 years.
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So we had hit that magic mark
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where we got really got at it.
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And so by the time people
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discovered us, we were kind of
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worthy of being discovered.
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And the same thing with comics.
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I did comics for 10 years before
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I ever got a fan letter.
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So yeah, there are probably
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things I could have done to make
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it go faster, but I probably
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wouldn't have achieved exactly
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what I achieved.
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I would have been maybe more
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superficial or I don't know.
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I don't know what would have
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happened.
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>> And the other possibility was
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I did go to New York, tried to,
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and I went and talked to a bunch
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of people, and this one kindly
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guy pulled me aside and he said
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you can come out to New York and
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you can work here for 20 years
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and maybe you'll get a chance to
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do what you want to do at the
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end of those 20 years, maybe you
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won't.
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You can go back to the Midwest
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and make the show that you want
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to make.
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You're that much further ahead,
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which is exactly how things
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turned out.
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>> You two are both cultural
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eagle eyes.
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Your comedy requires it to this
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day.
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What's wrong with kids these
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days, and what's right with kids
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these days?
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> I have kids.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Boy, that's a really good
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question.
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I think one of the pieces that
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really remains to be seen is
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this huge social experiment,
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which social media is.
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We don't really know long-term
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what the impact is, but it
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certainly isn't going away and
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it will be part of our life.
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One thing that concerns me is
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the lack of face-to-face
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conversation, and what that
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means long-term.
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Nobody really knows and we'll
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find out 10-15 years from now.
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>> If we're still talking.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Right.
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I think it's also interesting,
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you described some parents that
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are more tolerant, and I think
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maybe we've gone too far that
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way.
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But we're in an environment
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where our kids are really held
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in a special way, and that's,
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again, interesting to see how
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this all plays out.
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On one hand, there is a 15th
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place for swimming team medals
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now.
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[LAUGHTER]
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When we had maybe three at that
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in our day.
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>> And they were ribbons.
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>> Right.
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So every kid is valued and every
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achievement is valued even if
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it's minor just because I got in
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the water and got wet.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And I don't know what the
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long-term impact will be.
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All this horrible stuff that's
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come out in the last couple
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weeks about Adrian Peterson and
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how kids are raised and we came,
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I don't know about you, but we
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came up through kind of a rough
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time.
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Our playgrounds were asphalt.
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There weren't wood chips.
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And our jungle gyms were bars
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with burrs on the bolts holding
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them together, and you could get
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and you did get hurt through all
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that.
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Did that give us some extra
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character, I don't know.
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>> Yeah, this is the part where
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we talk about back in my day.
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[LAUGHTER]
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But really, in the '70s,
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you went outside to play
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and you were gone all day and
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you came back for dinner and
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your parents had no idea where
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you were.
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You were just roaming around the
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city.
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That doesn't happen now.
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Parents would go to jail if they
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did that now.
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[LAUGHTER]
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The kids are on a leash,
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literally.
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They're on leashes.
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[LAUGHTER]
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So, yeah, I don't know.
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I give talks at colleges and I
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meet these kids who are old
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enough to be my kids at this
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point.
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I have a son who's six.
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So what I like seeing in the new
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generation is there's always
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this human spirit for doing
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something original and doing
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something really that makes
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a mark.
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And it's cool to see how that
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rises to the top depending on
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their situation and how they
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were raised.
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Like the whole social media
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piece is fascinating because
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it's almost like they're from a
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different planet.
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The way they think, but there
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are some really interesting
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achievements bubbling up
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through that.
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>> There's a tolerance which
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I like.
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>> Oh, yeah.
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The tolerance thing is crazy.
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I don't think there's much of a
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bully problem.
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>> Right.
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>> When we went to school, more
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old man stuff, it was just a
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Darwinian jungle.
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You just threw the kids in there
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and good luck.
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[LAUGHTER]
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And you couldn't tattle or you'd
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get beat up worse.
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And it just feels like that's so
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much more controlled now.
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And so does that mean there's
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not going to be any more
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emotionally troubled people who
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go into comedy?
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I don't know.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Comedy is going to suffer.
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>> Comedy might suffer.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Because you look at Bill Gates
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and Steven Spielberg, those are
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people who achieved great things
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because they were bullied into
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a corner and they had to find
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another outlet.
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But their stuff comes out some
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way or another, and I'm always
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fascinated to see what it
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looks like.
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And you meet these really sharp
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kids who are doing really cool,
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interesting things that I never
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would have thought of.
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It's just super exciting to me.
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>> Isn't that the great saw of
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people who make comedy, that
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they were the ones that were
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locked in the locker or they got
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people to laugh their way out
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of it.
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>> It's a coping mechanism.
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They learned to do it to
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survive, and that's why they get
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good at it.
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>> We only have a couple of
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minutes left so we're going to
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go into the lightning round
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here.
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Actually just a couple more
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questions.
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What's currently on the front
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burner for you right now?
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>> I'm actually a practicing
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psychotherapist in Minneapolis.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Absolutely.
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>> So are you going to charge me
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for this time?
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>> Yes.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> A million dollars.
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>> Do you make snide comments
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about people's problems?
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>> Yes.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Of course.
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That's my technique.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> How does comedy play
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into that?
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>> Comedy is a lot about
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multiple perspectives on things.
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And god knows we could use a lot
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of comedy with how difficult
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life can be.
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So I find that's pretty useful
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tool with a lot of people to
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help gain perspective and help
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people through issues.
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>> Scott, what's on the front
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burner for you?
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>> Working on this pilot, this
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TV show, is front burner.
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Being a dad, certainly.
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And the Second City Center
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training stuff is really cool.
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Getting really involved with
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Second City.
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It's an amazing organization.
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Probably one of the more storied
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histories in the comedy industry
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in the world.
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It's pretty amazing to be
56:36.266 --> 56:37.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
involved in that.
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>> Well, not to put too blunt of
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a pulling up to the curb here,
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but we've got about a minute 17
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seconds and a room mostly filled
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with parents of college
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students.
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30 seconds of advice for the
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parents in the crowd.
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>> Your kids have their
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potential inside of them so you
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have to do your best to allow
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that to come forward, and part
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of that is managing your own
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anxiety.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> I'm no psychotherapist so
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I'm not going to come anywhere
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close to that.
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[LAUGHTER]
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My advice would be don't give
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your kids money.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Seriously.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Seriously.
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If they want to do something,
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tell them, great, go, go try
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that with your own money.
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[LAUGHTER]
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See how it does because I think
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too often they're like, oh, I
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want to do this really cool
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thing, it's going to take
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$2,000.
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Bang.
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They're not going to learn
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anything.
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That's not going to be good.
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They're only going to learn
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something if they lead with
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their passion, then money.
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You know?
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As it's needed.
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>> How about a nice thank you
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round of applause for Jim Mallon
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and Scott Dikkers.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Thank you very much.
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Good night.
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[APPLAUSE]