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- Good evening.
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I'm Sheri Castelnuovo,
the Curator of Education,
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and on behalf of MMoCA's
staff and board of trustees,
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it's my pleasure to welcome you
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to the Steven
Fleischmann Lectureship,
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featuring Sonya Clark.
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The lectureship honors
the 25th anniversary
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of Steven Fleischmann's
tenure as Museum Director.
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Members of MMoCA's
Board of Trustees
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who served during that time,
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funded an endowment to
provide for an annual lecture
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by individuals who have made
exceptional contributions
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to art and culture.
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Talks organized
for the lectureship
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are held each year in April,
and have free admission,
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in recognition of the
museum's dedication
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to providing access
to opportunities
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for learning and enrichment.
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We're very fortunate to have,
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as our distinguished
guest, Sonya Clark.
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Originally from Washington D.C.,
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and now residing in
Amherst, Massachusetts,
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Sonya Clark is
internationally celebrated for
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conceptually sophisticated,
finely crafted work,
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that builds upon
familiar objects:
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a comb, beads, a
dollar bill, a flag.
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As she has said,
"Objects have personal
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"and cultural meaning, because
they absorb our stories,
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and reflect our
humanity back to us."
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Prior to her current appointment
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a Professor of Art
at Amherst College,
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Sonya was a distinguished
research fellow
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in the School of the Arts,
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at Virginia
Commonwealth University
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where from 2006 into 2017,
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she served as chair
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for the Craft Material
Studies Department.
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She also was a Baldwin Baskin
Professor of Creative Arts
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at the University
of Wisconsin-Madison
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from 2004 to 2006,
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and was on the Design
Studies faculty
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in the School of Human
Ecology from 1997 to 2005.
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Among the honors
she has received
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are the 2016 Virginia
Commonwealth University's
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Distinguished Scholars Award,
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an honorary doctorate of arts
from Amherst College in 2015,
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and a Distinguished Alumni Award
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from Cranbrook Academy
of Art in 2011.
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She is the recipient
of a United States
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Artist's Fellowship, a
Pollock Krasner Award,
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and an Anonymous Was A
Woman Award among others,
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and has held residencies
in China, France,
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Italy, and the United States.
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Her work has been
exhibited in over 350
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museums and galleries
in the Americas,
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Africa, Asia, Europe,
and Australia,
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and appears in major
public collections,
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including the Indianapolis
Museum of Art,
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the Montreal Museum of
Fine Arts in Quebec,
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the Museum of Fine Arts Boston,
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and the Virginia Museum
of Fine Arts Richmond.
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Sonya also holds a
special place in MMoCA's
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institutional history.
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She served on the
museum's board of trustees
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from 2000 to 2003,
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and five of her sculptures
from the wig series,
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are included in MMoCA's
permanent collection.
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These works reimagine the
Fibonacci mathematical series
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through the rituals and
traditions of African
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and African American
hairstyling,
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and embody Sonya's exploration
of race and identity
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through the interplay
of material and process.
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So it's with great pleasure
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that we welcome Sonya
Clark back to MMoCA.
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Please offer her a warm welcome.
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(audience applauds)
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- Thank you Sheri.
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(audience applauds)
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Hi, good evening.
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It's so lovely to be here
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and to see so many
familiar faces,
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so thank you for coming out.
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It's always nice to have a
little bit of a homecoming.
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This evening I'm going to
be jumping all over the map,
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in terms of, there won't
be any linear trajection.
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So, and there are no
dates on the work,
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so you'll just have
to follow along.
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(audience laughs)
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So I want to start
by sharing with you
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this image,
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and this quote, or this thought.
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So James Baldwin referred to art
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as a kind of a confession.
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And so actually what
I'm going to be doing
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in the next 45, 50 minutes
is confessing to you.
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He describes art as
a way of examining
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and facing one's life,
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so you can determine how you
are connected to others' lives,
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and then iteratively,
those others can discover
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the terms by which
they too are connected
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to yet another group of people,
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and so on, and so on.
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So kind of everything
you need to know about me
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is in this picture.
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This awesome woman
was my grandmother.
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She is rocking a
beautiful white Afro,
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which I am waiting to grow.
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(audience laughs)
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The Afro I have, the
white, I don't have that.
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And she was an
itinerant grandmother.
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She visited her children
in these places,
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and I want you to
think about this.
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So she's from Jamaica,
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and she visited her
children and grandchildren
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in the United States of America,
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in Ghana, in the U.K.,
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and of course in Jamaica,
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all sites of the transatlantic
slave trade route.
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So in my very family, first
generation my cousins,
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you see resonance from that
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terrible part of our history.
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The other thing that
you see is that,
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first of all she would hate
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that I'm showing
you this photograph,
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but she's been an
ancestor for a long time,
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so she doesn't get to choose.
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(audience laughs)
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Because she was actually
quite an elegant woman,
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and here she's, you
know, in her overalls
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and stitching at a
Singer sewing machine.
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And that stitching at
a Singer sewing machine
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is the other thing that
you need to know about me.
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So my grandmother when
she would visit with us,
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she would say,
"Come stitch with me
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"and I'll tell you stories.
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"Come tell me your stories,
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and we'll put it in a stitch."
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She breathed her
stories into me,
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and so this way of
like, hair stories,
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and textiles infused
with cultural pride
and social justice,
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is why I'm here with you today.
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Now Chummy's last child that
joined her as an ancestor
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was Lilith Clark.
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Lilith Clark was my mother
who became an ancestor
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on August 27th of last year.
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And the thing about
my mother is that
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she thought it was very strange
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that she had this daughter
who made work with hair,
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'cause you're really
not supposed to
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mess with your ancestors
in that way, right?
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You know, and your
hair is your DNA,
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and your DNA your
ancestors, right?
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So she was a little
like, "I'm not sure about
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this work you're makin'
with our people."
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But she conceded,
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where she would save her hair
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every time that she
would brush her hair,
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she would save it in
a little Ziploc bag
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and she would give it to me.
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And her hair was
really salt and pepper.
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So this piece
that you're seeing here
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is my studio assistant and I
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separating her dark hair
from her white hair.
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(audience laughs)
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Which takes a long time,
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'cause you have to have
a white sheet of paper
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and a dark sheet of paper,
almost like the slide,
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so you could see where
the white hair is.
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This I'm going to also
confess while I'm just in the
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realm of confessing,
that my studio manager
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is much better than I am,
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because she would take a
hair and cut it in half,
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if it was half black
and half white,
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(audience laughs)
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and my quality control
is not at that level.
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(audience laughs)
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But the piece is calledMom's
Wisdom or Cotton Candy,
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because I felt like I was
preserving her wisdom,
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that is to say her white hair.
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But also the reference
to cotton candy,
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both being that the
sugar cane fields
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of her homeland Jamaica, and
the sweetness of her wisdom
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tucked into her aging
and fleeting memory.
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Now I grew up in
Washington D.C.,
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my parents migrated there,
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my mother from Jamaica,
my father from Trinidad,
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and we lived across
the street of the,
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from this grand home,
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and in that home
lived a family of 14.
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It was a home of
Ambassador Ajibade,
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Ambassador Ajibade was
from what is now Benin,
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in the West African
nation of Benin,
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and when we, when my sister
and I would go over there,
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we would get our hair done
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in these magnificent hairstyles,
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and so from a young age
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I knew that I was walking
with art on my head
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because people would stop me
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and they would tell me
how beautiful I was,
08:45.166 --> 08:46.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
but really only when I had
08:46.933 --> 08:48.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
one of these
phenomenal hairstyles.
08:48.966 --> 08:50.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
08:50.133 --> 08:51.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
So I realized it
might not be me,
08:51.800 --> 08:53.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
like I'd grown the
material for the art,
08:53.600 --> 08:57.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
but the art was from
the hands of these
08:57.166 --> 08:59.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
cool teenagers who
were sort of like
08:59.433 --> 09:00.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
young aunties for us,
09:00.833 --> 09:03.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
who would do all these
magnificent things
09:03.700 --> 09:04.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
on our hair.
09:04.866 --> 09:08.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
The Ajibade are Yoruba people,
09:08.233 --> 09:13.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and the Yoruba believed
that the seat of the soul
09:13.566 --> 09:16.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
is actually in one's head,
09:16.766 --> 09:19.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
so in that sense,
hairdressing is not like a
09:19.466 --> 09:26.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
issue of vanity, but really
an issue of ritual practice.
09:31.000 --> 09:34.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So the pieces that are
just outside in the gallery
09:34.500 --> 09:37.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
are my attempt
to try and remember
09:37.133 --> 09:38.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
those fleeting hairstyles,
09:38.600 --> 09:40.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
remember the art that
once lived on my head.
09:40.933 --> 09:47.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And I should also
share with you that
09:47.900 --> 09:50.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
when I was an
undergraduate student,
09:50.333 --> 09:54.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I went to a lecture
09:54.600 --> 09:59.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
at the University of
Massachusetts at Amherst.
10:00.600 --> 10:02.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
At the time I was a
student at Amherst College
10:02.700 --> 10:04.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
where I currently teach,
10:04.033 --> 10:06.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and so we knew that
the great Jimmy Baldwin
10:06.533 --> 10:08.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
was coming to give a lecture.
10:08.433 --> 10:09.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
And years later,
10:09.666 --> 10:11.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
actually when I was a
faculty member here,
10:11.766 --> 10:13.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I found this old notebook,
10:13.733 --> 10:18.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and in that notebook I found
a quote from James Baldwin,
10:20.000 --> 10:22.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and it was the only quote,
10:22.166 --> 10:25.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in fact it was the only
text that was on the paper,
10:25.766 --> 10:28.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
because the rest
of it was doodles,
10:28.133 --> 10:30.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I didn't actually
think of myself as
10:30.800 --> 10:32.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
being an artist at the time.
10:32.166 --> 10:34.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I was studying
psychology at the time,
10:34.066 --> 10:38.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but his quote was, "We
must find our lost crowns
10:38.800 --> 10:40.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
and wear them."
10:40.533 --> 10:43.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And so many years later,
I find myself here
10:43.500 --> 10:48.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
at the University of
Wisconsin-Madison,
10:48.100 --> 10:53.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
befriending one of the top
African arts historians,
10:54.366 --> 10:59.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Henry Drewal, and
discussing Yoruba culture,
10:59.933 --> 11:02.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and making this work.
11:05.300 --> 11:08.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So fast forward to
like 2013 or 14,
11:08.333 --> 11:14.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and this idea of thinking
about hair and textiles.
11:14.233 --> 11:17.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
What's the connection
between the two of them?
11:17.066 --> 11:19.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And I would say that one
of the things that I think
11:19.766 --> 11:23.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
is the connection is that
hairdressing is, perhaps,
11:23.233 --> 11:25.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the first textile art form.
11:25.266 --> 11:27.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Now that's something
that a friend of mine,
11:27.766 --> 11:30.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Bill Gaskins, who's a
professor at Cornell
11:30.300 --> 11:34.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
once said about my work
when he was critiquing,
11:34.800 --> 11:39.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
writing a review of a show
that I had with those wigs,
11:39.666 --> 11:40.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
the wig series.
11:41.833 --> 11:44.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And I thought, "Oh
that's beautiful."
11:44.566 --> 11:47.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Hairdressing as a
primordial textile art form.
11:49.133 --> 11:54.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Now that must have been
back in the late 90s
11:55.066 --> 11:59.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that he wrote that, and
in about 2013 or so,
11:59.866 --> 12:04.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I decided to put that
supposition to work.
12:04.066 --> 12:07.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So I gave hairdressers
my head of hair,
12:07.633 --> 12:10.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I also gave
them these canvases
12:10.366 --> 12:12.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that were stitched
with silk thread,
12:12.566 --> 12:14.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that you see on the
right-hand side of the slide,
12:14.700 --> 12:19.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and I said, if there is
language between hairdressing
12:19.100 --> 12:20.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and textile arts,
12:20.766 --> 12:24.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
then if I go to the fluent
speakers of hairdressing,
12:24.133 --> 12:25.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
then we'll see how
fluent they are
12:25.833 --> 12:28.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
in the language of textiles.
12:28.566 --> 12:30.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And the Hair Craft
Project was born.
12:32.233 --> 12:35.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I wanted to amplify the
voices of hairdressers.
12:35.033 --> 12:36.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
You know there's,
12:36.100 --> 12:39.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the word plait is
related to the word plex,
12:39.766 --> 12:42.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
as in complex and
having many parts,
12:42.766 --> 12:45.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and this project
itself had many parts.
12:45.866 --> 12:48.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
It was first shown at a
gallery in Richmond, Virginia
12:48.566 --> 12:51.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
where I lived at the time,
situated in Old Downtown
12:51.566 --> 12:53.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
which had become
a new arts district,
12:53.500 --> 12:58.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and the old black
salons and barbers
12:58.066 --> 12:59.666 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
were still hanging on.
12:59.700 --> 13:02.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
The gentrification
was happening.
13:02.766 --> 13:04.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
So in this place of art,
13:04.966 --> 13:06.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I decided to bring this nexus
13:06.633 --> 13:08.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
of these two communities.
13:08.233 --> 13:10.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Unfortunately, art
community in Richmond,
13:10.933 --> 13:13.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
skewed European American,
13:13.500 --> 13:15.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and certainly the hairdressers
13:15.533 --> 13:20.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that I was working with were
in African American salons,
13:20.600 --> 13:24.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
so they were bringing
their clients to the show,
13:24.466 --> 13:27.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
people from the art community
13:27.033 --> 13:29.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
were bringing
friends to the show.
13:29.500 --> 13:31.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I belong to both of
these communities,
13:31.733 --> 13:35.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and people were asked to choose
13:35.500 --> 13:39.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
which canvases and
the photographs
13:39.833 --> 13:42.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
from the hairstyles
that I was given,
13:42.700 --> 13:44.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
which ones they
thought were best.
13:44.833 --> 13:46.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And then we had two jurors,
13:46.766 --> 13:49.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
A'Lelia Bundles who was
a great granddaughter
13:49.400 --> 13:50.733 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
of Madame C.J. Walker,
13:50.766 --> 13:53.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
who is famously known for
being one of the first
13:53.600 --> 13:56.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
self-made women millionaires.
13:56.600 --> 13:59.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
She also happened to
be African American.
13:59.533 --> 14:01.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
She made her millions
before she died,
14:01.900 --> 14:05.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
made her million before
she died in 1919,
14:05.133 --> 14:09.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so quite a while
ago, 100 years ago.
14:09.800 --> 14:12.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
And then the other.
14:14.000 --> 14:17.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And A'Lelia Bundles had also
written an autobiography,
14:17.633 --> 14:19.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
not an autobiography,
but a biography
14:19.633 --> 14:20.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
of her great-grandmother.
14:23.066 --> 14:25.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So she came, and she
juried what she thought
14:25.666 --> 14:29.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
were the best hairstyles as
depicted in the photographs.
14:29.033 --> 14:31.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And then Lowery Sims
who was a chief curator
14:31.400 --> 14:33.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
of the Museum of Arts and
Design in New York City
14:33.866 --> 14:35.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
at that time, juried
what she thought
14:35.500 --> 14:37.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
were the best canvases.
14:37.800 --> 14:41.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And the popular vote and
the jury's vote lined up.
14:43.533 --> 14:45.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Just to give you
a sense of the show
14:45.433 --> 14:48.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
when it went to Art Prize,
14:48.433 --> 14:52.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and then it won Art Prize,
14:52.966 --> 14:54.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
which surprised everybody
14:54.300 --> 14:58.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and made all of the hairdressers
very happy.
14:58.600 --> 15:00.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
15:00.300 --> 15:01.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Because I was writing checks.
15:01.533 --> 15:03.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Of course they all got
paid for participating
15:03.533 --> 15:04.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
in the show in the first place,
15:05.000 --> 15:06.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and then they got paid again,
15:06.300 --> 15:08.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and then the whole project
15:09.000 --> 15:11.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
was purchased by
the MFA in Boston,
15:11.900 --> 15:13.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the Museum of Fine
Arts in Boston,
15:13.433 --> 15:15.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and then they got paid
again (audience laughs),
15:15.966 --> 15:17.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and then they started saying,
15:17.366 --> 15:18.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"I should give up hairdressing,"
15:18.833 --> 15:20.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and I said "Don't you do that!"
15:20.466 --> 15:21.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
15:21.866 --> 15:24.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I said "Let me show you
into my art collection.
15:24.866 --> 15:26.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I am the biggest
collector of it."
15:26.800 --> 15:29.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
15:29.933 --> 15:31.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And you know, I reminded them
15:31.700 --> 15:33.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that they work on a
commissioned art form.
15:33.966 --> 15:37.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
When someone, when
they do your hair,
15:37.066 --> 15:39.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
you pay them, that's it.
15:39.266 --> 15:42.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Next, next head, next art.
15:43.233 --> 15:45.700 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
Next exchange.
15:45.733 --> 15:47.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
This is a sort of phenomenal
work
15:47.600 --> 15:48.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
that was done on my head.
15:48.800 --> 15:51.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I apologize to you all right now
15:51.066 --> 15:52.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
that I have such boring hair.
15:52.433 --> 15:54.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
15:54.500 --> 15:56.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I no longer live in
Richmond, Virginia
15:56.166 --> 15:57.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
where I get myself in trouble,
15:57.500 --> 15:59.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
'cause I come to town
and people get jealous
15:59.733 --> 16:01.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
as to whose chair
I'm going to sit in.
16:03.000 --> 16:04.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But this is Jamila
Williams' work,
16:05.000 --> 16:07.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
and you can see,
there's no doubt
16:07.833 --> 16:11.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that this is a
master craftsperson,
16:11.033 --> 16:14.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and that the fluency
between textiles
16:14.266 --> 16:16.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and hairdressing is clear.
16:18.133 --> 16:23.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Now this idea of using
thread in the place of hair,
16:24.700 --> 16:28.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
is something that you saw in
those early works in wigs,
16:28.066 --> 16:30.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
in the wig series,
that was cotton thread,
16:30.300 --> 16:33.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but also in works like this
16:30.300 --> 16:33.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Ro
otedandUprooted.
16:34.400 --> 16:37.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
This idea of the visceral
pull of heritage,
16:37.166 --> 16:40.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
the sort of West African
concept of knowing one's roots
16:40.900 --> 16:42.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
which is rooted
in this ability of
16:42.633 --> 16:45.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
whether you can name
someone in your family
16:45.933 --> 16:48.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
or trace your lineage
back 10 generations.
16:48.833 --> 16:51.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
So I wonder how many of you
feel like you could do that,
16:51.900 --> 16:53.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
like you could name your,
16:53.866 --> 16:55.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
certain your own generation,
that's your name,
16:55.766 --> 16:59.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
and then you know, your
parents and your grandparents,
16:59.200 --> 17:01.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and your great grands, and
your great great grands,
17:01.166 --> 17:02.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and how far back can you go?
17:04.033 --> 17:06.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So the ironic thing
is that in my lineage,
17:06.733 --> 17:11.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I can go back about
now, 11 generations
17:13.300 --> 17:16.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
on the far less evident
side of my heritage,
17:16.933 --> 17:21.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70%
that is to say my
great-grandfather's
side of my family
17:21.033 --> 17:22.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
as my great-grandfather
was Scottish.
17:22.800 --> 17:24.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
He came from the
Highlands of Scotland,
17:24.633 --> 17:27.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so way back there in the
Highlands of Scotland,
17:27.233 --> 17:29.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
knowing my people in the
tartan and everything.
17:32.133 --> 17:36.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
But you know, I don't
identify as a European person,
17:36.633 --> 17:39.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so the African part
of my heritage,
17:39.800 --> 17:41.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
it has been uprooted.
17:45.600 --> 17:47.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So I moved to
Richmond, Virginia.
17:49.000 --> 17:52.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Seat of the Confederacy,
(man laughs)
17:52.166 --> 17:54.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and I lived there for 12 years,
17:55.000 --> 17:57.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and if someone had
told this black girl
17:57.066 --> 17:59.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who grew up in D.C.
that I was going to move
17:59.300 --> 18:01.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to Richmond,
Virginia and like it,
18:01.766 --> 18:03.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I would have lost that bet,
18:03.266 --> 18:06.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but I really did like living
in Richmond, Virginia.
18:06.400 --> 18:10.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
However, I did not
like when the governor,
18:10.766 --> 18:15.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
in 2010, Bob McDonnell,
decided to proclaim
18:17.733 --> 18:20.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
April as Confederate
History Month
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without any acknowledgment
to the contributions
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of African peoples,
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people of African descent
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to the wealth of this nation,
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the wealth of Richmond,
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the wealth of Virginia,
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the wealth of the South,
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the wealth of this
entire nation,
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and global wealth.
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Nor did he make any
acknowledgment of
the native peoples
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and the mass genocide.
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So I was a little
pissy about that.
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(audience laughs)
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But pissiness can
lead to decent art,
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so I made this piece,
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(audience laughs)
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in which I took a
Confederate battle flag,
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actually I hand-painted this
Confederate battle flag,
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stitched through it
with that same technique
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of thread through canvas,
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and then using
hairstyling techniques,
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very similar to
the ones on wigs,
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that make up the American flag.
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So you see cornrows,
and then the stars
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that make up the American
flag are Bantu knots.
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So the cornrows are referring to
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people working the land, right?
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And the Bantu knots are
referring to peoples
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that have a language,
and a culture,
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and a civilization,
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and all of that.
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Now, after making this piece,
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which I should
also share with you
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was in part made because
the Museum of Fine Arts
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in Richmond, Virginia,
on its grounds,
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was hanging a
Confederate battle flag,
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and they had taken it down,
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Governor Bob McDonnell
makes a proclamation,
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I make this piece,
flag comes down,
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and all these "heritage
not hate" people
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start coming out.
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"You've taken down our
flag," et cetera, et cetera.
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And then I get an
invitation from
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the Director of the
Museum of the Confederacy
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in Richmond, which
I have to admit
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I'd never been to before,
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and he wanted to share with me
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that I was, he
wanted to educate me
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about a couple of things.
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(audience chuckles)
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So one of the things that he
wanted to educate me about
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was that I was, in short,
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calling that flag that you saw,
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and that you all know so well,
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the Confederate flag.
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And he said, "Well that's
not the Confederate flag.
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"That's the Confederate
battle flag.
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"And in fact, there were several
Confederate battle flags.
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"The Confederate flag is square,
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"the Confederate battle
flag is rectangular,
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"and here are all these other
Confederate flags as well.
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"People mistakenly call
that one stars and bars.
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That's not the stars and bars
one, there's another one."
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On and on and on and on.
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I will admit I
learned some things,
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and I also got to
encounter one of the
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first Confederate battle
flags, this one here,
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just a portion of
it, that you can see
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it was made out of silk,
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as many of those flags
were at the time, or wool.
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And this piece was behind,
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it was in a darkened room
to protect the textile
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and behind glass.
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So the glass became
like a mirror,
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and if you look
closely you can see
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sort of the top of my head,
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same shiny head there.
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(audience laughs)
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And so I saw myself reflected
in this tattered cloth.
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So when 2015 came about,
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which was 150th sesquicentennial
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of the end of the Civil War,
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marked by the Battle
at Appomattox,
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I decided to take a purchased
Confederate battle flag
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down to its threads, to
completely unravel it.
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So my studio assistants and I
did that.
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We went about taking
it down to its threads,
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to think about how far
we had come as a nation.
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If the Confederate--
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If the Civil War had
been lost 150 years ago,
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to the South had lost
it 150 years ago,
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then how was it that in 2015,
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with an African
American president,
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but even with Obama in office,
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we were witnessing as a nation
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the atrocities of policing,
brutalizing, and murdering
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of black and brown people,
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with our phones on social media.
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So steps ahead and
steps backwards,
right, simultaneously.
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Sort of cognitive
dissonance of this nation.
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And that's when I realized
that this is the end game
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but we really have
a lot of work to do.
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So one of the things that I did
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was invite people to
join me in the process,
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in tandem, me only standing
on the right side of the flag,
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someone else always
joining me one at a time
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in unraveling the
Confederate battle flag.
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I've done several of
these performances.
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They usually last
two or three hours.
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I spend two or three
minutes with each person
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who unravels with me.
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The conversations are
deep and interesting
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and sometimes troubling.
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Sometimes people come to tears.
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Sometimes I'm honestly,
'cause I'm confessing,
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standing with a friend
who's done it before
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and we're just jabbing
about, you know,
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like we're having
coffee, you know,
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just being about the work.
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And even in two or three hours,
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we get through at
most, half an inch.
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(audience murmuring)
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So the thing about
the Confederacy
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is that it lives on with us
in this way
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that it's like drinking
water or breathing air
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in this nation.
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I mean, I question
why we even know
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one of the Confederate
battle flags so well.
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I think, I suspect you
all know the answer.
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It's the Ku Klux Klan.
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And then I think like
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what other ways has
the Confederacy sort of
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gone into our every day?
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So here's a confession.
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I rode this rollercoaster
when I was a teenager.
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And it was the rollercoaster
we all wanted to ride.
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So in between D.C. and Richmond,
Virginia
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was this theme park
called King's Dominion.
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And at King's Dominion,
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we all wanted to get on this
fabulous wooden rollercoaster,
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and a group of kids
were in one car,
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and another group of
kids were in another car,
25:04.533 --> 25:07.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
and we were young enough that
no one was old enough to drive
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so we're all going down,
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and there was a boy
I had a crush on,
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and I got my first kiss.
25:14.333 --> 25:16.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I associated that first kiss
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with riding this rollercoaster.
25:18.200 --> 25:19.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
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This rollercoaster when
we stand in a long line
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on a hot summer day,
we finally get on it,
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and the person who
sort of buckles you in
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says, "Okay, now scream
as loud as you can scream.
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Give the rebel yell."
25:41.966 --> 25:43.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience sighs)
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And so this kind of
insidiousness is something that
25:47.933 --> 25:53.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
we have to see, contend
with, and work against,
25:53.933 --> 25:55.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and resist every day.
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I'm assuming that all
of you, more or less,
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could draw a Confederate
flag right now.
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Is that true?
26:04.400 --> 26:06.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
I mean not that you'd want to,
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but you know it, right?
26:07.600 --> 26:09.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Like, when I showed it,
you knew what it was.
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You weren't like "What
flag is that?" right?
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I'm wondering if any of
you know what this is?
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This is the
Confederate truce flag.
26:20.600 --> 26:24.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
This is the piece of cloth
that ended the Civil War.
26:24.200 --> 26:26.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
This is the piece of cloth
that we should all know,
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but we don't know it, right?
26:28.700 --> 26:30.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
We don't know it.
26:30.200 --> 26:32.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
It's a simple,
humble, dish cloth
26:32.433 --> 26:34.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that was woven in
Richmond, Virginia,
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and was used as a truce
or surrender flag by Lee,
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at Appomattox because
it was a white cloth.
26:40.700 --> 26:41.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
We can recognize it,
26:41.966 --> 26:45.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
because it has these simple
three little lines, right?
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Without those three
little red lines
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we might not recognize it.
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But it's got this humble
little design element.
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It was a cloth made to
absorb things, right?
26:54.066 --> 26:56.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It wasn't a cloth
made to be a flag.
26:56.566 --> 26:59.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
It was a cloth that
moved from domestic space
26:59.233 --> 27:00.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
to the battlefield.
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But it, this humble cloth,
ended the Civil War.
27:04.200 --> 27:08.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Now, you're only looking
at half the cloth.
27:09.166 --> 27:11.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
This half lives
at the Smithsonian
27:11.133 --> 27:12.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
in the American History Museum.
27:12.400 --> 27:14.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I didn't have to
dig deep to find it.
27:14.200 --> 27:17.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It was just on display,
but we don't know it.
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It was next to
Lincoln's top hat.
27:18.700 --> 27:20.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You all know Lincoln's
top hat, right?
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(audience laughs)
27:23.900 --> 27:26.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Why isn't this the
symbol that endured?
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So it's half because in sort
of truce surrender politics
27:31.800 --> 27:33.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you cut the cloth in
half, and this half
27:33.933 --> 27:38.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
actually was owned by Custer,
and then Custer's wife
27:38.933 --> 27:40.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
gave it to the Smithsonian.
27:40.633 --> 27:42.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Someone in that family
gave it to the Smithsonian.
27:42.466 --> 27:46.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So the flag that we could say
brought the nation together
27:46.133 --> 27:47.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
has actually been
divided in half.
27:49.266 --> 27:52.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So my first charge was
to acknowledge that it
27:52.933 --> 27:55.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
should be thought
of as a monument,
27:55.566 --> 27:57.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and to make this piece
calledMonumental Cloth
27:57.566 --> 28:00.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
which is true-to-scale
of the dish cloth,
28:00.500 --> 28:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
but to stitch the
two halves together,
28:02.200 --> 28:04.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and to suture them to
really think of it as
28:04.266 --> 28:07.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
like the body of the nation.
28:07.066 --> 28:08.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
But my most recent show,
28:08.666 --> 28:10.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
one that just opened
a few weeks ago,
28:10.766 --> 28:12.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
which is called, again,
28:12.900 --> 28:15.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Monumental Cloth: The
Flag We Should Know,
28:17.466 --> 28:19.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
is my push back at
what would it be like
28:20.000 --> 28:23.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
if this really were
the symbol that endured
28:23.033 --> 28:25.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
in our consciousness
as a nation?
28:27.633 --> 28:29.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So the Fabric
Workshop and Museum
28:29.600 --> 28:31.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who collaborated with
me on this project
28:31.933 --> 28:35.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
went about hand
weaving many of these
28:35.733 --> 28:38.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
true-to-scale dish cloths,
28:38.166 --> 28:41.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
so there are 100 of
them in the exhibition.
28:41.433 --> 28:44.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And I also truly wanted
to make one monumental,
28:44.266 --> 28:47.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
so this one is 15 by 30 feet,
28:47.900 --> 28:50.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
not quite as large as
the Star Spangled Banner,
28:50.266 --> 28:52.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
but pretty damn big.
28:52.433 --> 28:54.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
28:54.066 --> 28:56.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Now you see that red
wall in the back?
28:58.033 --> 29:00.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So you can't read
it, but it says
29:00.933 --> 29:03.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Monumental Cloth: the
Flag We Should Know.
29:03.066 --> 29:05.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
It's the title wall.
29:05.366 --> 29:07.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
The very final hours before the,
29:07.833 --> 29:09.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
couple days before
the show opened,
29:09.800 --> 29:11.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
that wall was white,
29:11.533 --> 29:13.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and we know something
was off in the space,
29:13.466 --> 29:14.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
so they brought me in, you know,
29:14.966 --> 29:16.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I'm there for the opening,
29:16.066 --> 29:17.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and they said,
"What should we do?"
29:17.566 --> 29:19.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and I said "Well, color
solves everything."
29:19.166 --> 29:21.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience chuckles)
29:21.800 --> 29:24.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I said let's take those
three little red stripes,
29:24.666 --> 29:26.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you know we've madder
dyed them so they're
29:26.500 --> 29:31.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
true to the real color,
madder root dyed them.
29:32.500 --> 29:34.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Let's take a little
bit of that thread
29:34.166 --> 29:35.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that we used for theMonumental
29:35.933 --> 29:40.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
and for theManypiece, and
let's go to the paint store,
29:40.833 --> 29:42.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and paint this wall red.
29:42.466 --> 29:44.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
And I got a little bit of like,
29:44.866 --> 29:45.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"Ah, you think red'll work?"
29:45.966 --> 29:47.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
I said "Red is the only color.
29:47.366 --> 29:48.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"Can't be any other color,
29:48.566 --> 29:50.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"'cause if it's blue then
then it's too patriotic.
29:50.366 --> 29:52.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"It's got to be red,
it's got to be red,
29:52.400 --> 29:53.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
just go with the red."
29:53.566 --> 29:55.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So someone from the
Fabric Workshop and Museum
29:55.233 --> 29:57.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
goes to Benjamin Moore, we
all love Benjamin Moore.
29:57.566 --> 29:59.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
You're not going to
like them so much
29:59.233 --> 30:00.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
at the end of this story, sorry.
30:00.700 --> 30:01.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
30:01.866 --> 30:03.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Sorry, I'm just warning you.
30:04.733 --> 30:07.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
So Alec goes to Benjamin Moore,
30:10.600 --> 30:12.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
matching this linen that's red,
30:12.733 --> 30:17.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
this linen thread that's
dyed in this madder root red,
30:17.733 --> 30:20.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and he texts us
back at the museum,
30:20.066 --> 30:21.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and he says, "You're not
going to believe this.
30:22.000 --> 30:23.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
"There are three
colors that are close,
30:23.400 --> 30:25.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
"but the perfect color
matches this red.
30:25.633 --> 30:27.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Guess what it's called."
30:27.633 --> 30:29.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
(audience chatters and laughs)
30:36.533 --> 30:38.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And this is how this
lives on, right?
30:38.933 --> 30:41.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
So Alec couldn't believe it.
30:41.766 --> 30:43.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I mean first of all,
then we had to paint
30:43.866 --> 30:45.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the wall this color, right?
30:45.033 --> 30:46.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
30:46.266 --> 30:48.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And then we had to put this
at the base of the wall,
30:48.933 --> 30:50.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
'cause now the wall
is part of the piece,
30:50.766 --> 30:52.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
you know what I mean?
30:52.166 --> 30:53.366 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
That's part of, right?
30:53.400 --> 30:54.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
- [Man In Audience] Right.
30:54.566 --> 30:56.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- So Alec is like
"I cannot believe
30:56.200 --> 30:57.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"there's a Confederate red.
30:57.366 --> 30:58.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I just cannot believe it."
30:58.400 --> 30:59.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
So he goes online.
30:59.766 --> 31:01.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
So he had the paint chip
31:01.066 --> 31:03.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and the paint chip says
Confederate Red, this color.
31:03.766 --> 31:06.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
He looks it up and
it's been renamed
31:06.133 --> 31:08.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
to Patriotic Red.
31:08.666 --> 31:11.133 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
Is that better?
31:11.166 --> 31:12.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience chuckles)
31:12.900 --> 31:15.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And back in 2014, and
you can look this up,
31:15.533 --> 31:18.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
there's someone who
worked for Benjamin Moore
31:18.600 --> 31:20.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that brought a
lawsuit against them,
31:20.033 --> 31:23.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
because he's a brown man, and
they named a color after him,
31:23.866 --> 31:27.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
like if they named a
color Chocolate Sonya
31:27.733 --> 31:29.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and they didn't
talk to me about it.
31:29.400 --> 31:30.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
31:30.566 --> 31:31.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Like really problematic.
31:31.633 --> 31:34.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And in that lawsuit,
in this article,
31:34.800 --> 31:38.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it says that, you know, he said,
31:38.100 --> 31:42.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"Just in case you all think
that I'm being sensitive,
31:42.200 --> 31:45.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"Benjamin Moore has
on their website
31:45.566 --> 31:47.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"this color called
Confederate Red,
31:47.500 --> 31:49.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and they refer to it as
an enduring classic."
31:53.033 --> 31:56.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So this is the propaganda
that we're about, right?
31:56.133 --> 31:58.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Like this is what lives
on in this nation,
31:58.700 --> 32:00.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so I really wanted
to dig at this,
32:00.866 --> 32:05.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
so also in the show, aligning
with those three red stripes,
32:05.866 --> 32:08.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
we did some research
to come up with
32:08.133 --> 32:10.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
all the merchandise that
you can purchase online
32:10.366 --> 32:12.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that has a Confederate
battle flag.
32:12.366 --> 32:14.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience murmuring)
32:14.833 --> 32:16.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
It is an exhaustive list.
32:16.466 --> 32:18.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I had to stop at 200.
32:19.000 --> 32:20.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I had to stop at 200.
32:20.200 --> 32:23.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
In case you're wondering,
you can buy a yoga mat
32:25.100 --> 32:26.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
with a Confederate
battle flag on it,
32:27.000 --> 32:31.733 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
a baby onesie, bikini,
32:32.666 --> 32:36.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and also a dishcloth.
32:39.200 --> 32:41.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So I performed this
piece calledReversals,
32:41.333 --> 32:42.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and this I the
only place in which
32:42.966 --> 32:44.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a Confederate
battle flag appears
32:44.933 --> 32:46.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
inMonumental Cloth: The
32:44.933 --> 32:46.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Fl
32:44.933 --> 32:46.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
ag You Should Know.
32:48.266 --> 32:53.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I am dressed in this clothing
32:55.866 --> 32:59.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
borrowed from a
famous photograph
32:59.133 --> 33:01.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
that I'll show you in a bit.
33:02.266 --> 33:04.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I am kneeling on one knee,
33:05.000 --> 33:09.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to conjure the idea
of Colin Kaepernick,
33:09.733 --> 33:13.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I am cleaning the
floor that is dirtied
33:13.766 --> 33:16.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
with dust gathered
from Independence Hall
33:16.500 --> 33:19.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and the Declaration
House in Philadelphia,
33:20.000 --> 33:22.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and as I clean the floor,
33:22.633 --> 33:26.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the Declaration of
Independence appears.
33:26.333 --> 33:28.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And I am cleaning the floor
33:28.100 --> 33:31.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
with merchandise that
you can purchase online
33:31.233 --> 33:33.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
33:33.633 --> 33:38.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
a dishcloth or a towel,
that is printed with
33:38.566 --> 33:41.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
the Confederate battle flag.
33:44.033 --> 33:48.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So this is the
image of my dress.
33:49.133 --> 33:51.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
This dress was made
after Ella Watson,
33:51.700 --> 33:53.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the famous Gordon
Parks photograph
33:54.000 --> 33:58.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that got renamedAmerican
33:54.000 --> 33:58.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Go
33:54.000 --> 33:58.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
thic, taken in 1942.
33:59.700 --> 34:02.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And I wanted to
embody Ella Watson,
34:02.033 --> 34:06.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
who has this full life
as a full human being
34:06.700 --> 34:08.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
who is cleaning up,
34:11.066 --> 34:16.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and to honor all the domestic
laborers in this world,
34:17.066 --> 34:18.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
in this nation, farm laborers,
34:18.800 --> 34:22.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
domestics, teachers, nurses.
34:22.700 --> 34:27.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Many women in my family have
held those kinds of positions
34:27.800 --> 34:31.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and that's the other reason
that I'm here before you.
34:31.866 --> 34:35.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So that's about it
for that project.
34:35.500 --> 34:36.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
There's some more pieces to it,
34:36.733 --> 34:39.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but just in the interest
of time, I'll move forward.
34:39.100 --> 34:41.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I made this piece called
Edifice and Mortar
34:41.666 --> 34:44.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and it's connected
to the idea of labor,
34:44.066 --> 34:47.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and also the idea
of empire building.
34:47.733 --> 34:50.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I hope you can see
that it, too, is
34:50.200 --> 34:55.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
making reference to a flag,
perhaps an upside down flag.
34:56.933 --> 35:01.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
The bricks, the brick
wall is 13 bricks high,
35:01.066 --> 35:04.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to make reference
to the 13 stripes.
35:04.166 --> 35:07.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
The bricks are stamped
with: We hold these truths
35:07.200 --> 35:10.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to be self evident,
that all men are--
35:10.200 --> 35:11.633 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
- [All] Created equal.
35:11.666 --> 35:15.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- Yes, one of the big
paradoxes of our nation.
35:16.200 --> 35:19.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
That you know, with pursuit of
35:19.533 --> 35:24.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
life, liberty, and
happiness (Sonya chuckles),
35:25.533 --> 35:27.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and yet that's not true for
all people in this nation,
35:27.866 --> 35:32.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
so an edifice is not only a
large and imposing building,
35:33.666 --> 35:35.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
it's also a complex
system of beliefs,
35:35.466 --> 35:41.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and the mortar here is made to,
35:41.333 --> 35:45.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
gathered from the hair of
African American salons
35:45.500 --> 35:47.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
in Richmond, 'cause
I have a lot of
35:47.766 --> 35:50.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
salon friends in Richmond.
35:50.733 --> 35:54.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And the idea is that
the mortar is at once,
35:54.533 --> 35:56.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
representing black
people that are
35:56.900 --> 35:58.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
held under the
weight of the system,
35:58.566 --> 36:01.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
but also are
responsible for building
36:01.366 --> 36:03.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the wealth of the
nation at the same time.
36:04.666 --> 36:06.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
If you're not
familiar with this,
36:06.433 --> 36:10.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
this is an example of an
ancient Roman brick stamp,
36:10.200 --> 36:12.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I'm showing it
to you because it,
36:12.366 --> 36:17.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and the next slide, tie
into the back of the piece,
36:17.666 --> 36:19.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Edifice and Mortar.
36:19.333 --> 36:22.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
These ancient
Roman brick stamps,
36:22.200 --> 36:25.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and this one is from 2 B.C.,
36:25.933 --> 36:30.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the outside of the crescent
would have the name of the
36:30.866 --> 36:32.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
person who owned the clay pit.
36:32.533 --> 36:35.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
The next inner circle would
have the name of the person
36:35.433 --> 36:37.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
who owned the enslaved person
36:37.466 --> 36:39.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
who was making the bricks,
36:39.066 --> 36:41.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and in this particular
one, COS is the name
36:41.766 --> 36:44.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
of the enslaved person
in ancient Rome.
36:44.366 --> 36:47.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Now in ancient Rome
race didn't play
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in the way that it
does in this nation,
36:49.466 --> 36:50.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
or in the history
of this nation,
36:50.866 --> 36:52.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
or certainly in the history of
36:52.866 --> 36:54.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
the transatlantic slave trade.
36:54.666 --> 36:57.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But certainly slavery is
what built the Roman Empire,
36:59.933 --> 37:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I would say
slavery is what built
37:02.200 --> 37:06.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the American Empire, and
yes, I called it an empire.
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And it's also, Richmond
and many of our cities,
37:09.700 --> 37:12.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
our older cities, are
brick cities as well,
37:12.766 --> 37:18.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and so this is, and you can
see maybe in that middle brick,
37:18.233 --> 37:21.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
those old hand prints,
impressions left
37:21.500 --> 37:24.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
by an enslaved African American
in the still wet bricks,
37:24.966 --> 37:28.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
and these were people who
were forced to make bricks
37:28.566 --> 37:33.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
for those slave quarters
that still exist
37:33.633 --> 37:38.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
at Historic Stagville
in North Carolina.
37:38.233 --> 37:40.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
In what was then,
37:40.166 --> 37:44.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the largest antebellum
plantation complex in the state.
37:45.700 --> 37:48.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So the back of the
piece has this.
37:48.366 --> 37:50.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
You can see it has this
crescent shape
37:51.000 --> 37:56.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that is making reference to
the ancient Roman brick stamps.
37:56.866 --> 37:59.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And hopefully you
can also see that
37:59.366 --> 38:01.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
it kind of looks like an Afro?
38:01.700 --> 38:02.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience murmuring)
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Yeah, that part is obvious.
38:04.500 --> 38:07.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
And then are there any
Italian speakers in the house?
38:07.500 --> 38:10.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Yeah, okay.
38:10.300 --> 38:13.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
So, for the non-Italian
speakers,
38:13.800 --> 38:17.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
if I said ciao, would
you know what that meant?
38:17.466 --> 38:18.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience murmuring)
38:18.666 --> 38:21.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Yeah, okay, so everybody
knows ciao, right?
38:21.633 --> 38:23.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So ciao is a greeting that
means hello or goodbye.
38:24.000 --> 38:25.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
That's the way we think of it.
38:25.533 --> 38:29.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Ciao is directly derived
from this word schiavo,
38:29.966 --> 38:32.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
which is an Italian word,
38:32.366 --> 38:34.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and would one of
the Italian speakers
38:34.033 --> 38:36.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
like to tell us what
that word means?
38:36.433 --> 38:38.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
- [Woman] Slave.
- Schiavo means slave.
38:38.800 --> 38:41.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So when we are saying
ciao to one another,
38:41.066 --> 38:43.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you know, 'cause we're
all so cosmopolitan,
38:43.866 --> 38:47.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
(audience chuckles) we're
actually saying I'm your slave,
38:47.533 --> 38:49.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I'm in your service.
38:49.366 --> 38:51.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And that's that kind
of interesting slippage
38:51.733 --> 38:53.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
that happens, you know.
38:53.133 --> 38:55.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Roman Empire slips
into our language,
38:55.733 --> 38:58.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and suddenly we're
saying ciao, right?
38:58.066 --> 39:00.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
I'm your slave.
39:00.866 --> 39:02.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
And just to work that through,
39:02.266 --> 39:04.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so you understand,
so schiavo, right?
39:04.733 --> 39:09.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
In Venice it would be
sort of softened to shiao,
39:09.300 --> 39:12.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and you see how we
get to ciao from that.
39:15.200 --> 39:18.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Well I didn't get here
and mourn for this guy.
39:18.033 --> 39:21.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
39:21.900 --> 39:23.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
But it's problematic, right?
39:23.933 --> 39:25.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
You know the great emancipator
39:25.600 --> 39:27.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
was making an economic decision
39:27.366 --> 39:29.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
which is why he's on a $5 bill,
39:29.033 --> 39:32.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and why I sell these pieces
for a lot more than $5.
39:32.500 --> 39:33.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
39:33.800 --> 39:35.600 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
It's another kind of reversal.
39:35.633 --> 39:37.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
Just tryin' to get reparations.
39:37.400 --> 39:42.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience laughs heartily)
39:43.400 --> 39:46.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And also just to think as it
39:46.066 --> 39:48.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
relates to my particular family,
39:48.033 --> 39:50.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
this piece encrusted in which,
39:50.600 --> 39:53.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I grew sugar crystals
on a five dollar bill
39:53.266 --> 39:56.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and I hope that this piece
sort of seduces your eye
39:56.666 --> 40:00.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and your tongue, like
it is really rock candy.
40:00.866 --> 40:04.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And that is exactly
what was happening
40:04.533 --> 40:06.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
with the slave trade
route as it relates
40:06.333 --> 40:08.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to the Caribbean and
to the southern parts
40:08.566 --> 40:09.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
of the United States of America.
40:09.933 --> 40:13.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Places like New Orleans,
40:13.933 --> 40:16.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
which had big sugar
plantations as well.
40:16.733 --> 40:18.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
It was a drug of trade,
40:18.800 --> 40:20.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and sugar was more
valuable than the people
40:20.766 --> 40:23.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
who worked the land.
40:23.633 --> 40:24.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
So the seduction there.
40:24.800 --> 40:30.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And also this notion that
there's a way in which
40:30.566 --> 40:34.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Lincoln's legacy
can be sugarcoated.
40:34.400 --> 40:39.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Like yes, he
emancipated the slaves
40:39.166 --> 40:40.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
or enslaved people, grateful,
40:40.666 --> 40:43.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
it was also complicated.
40:45.400 --> 40:48.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So I want to share with
you this use of sugar.
40:48.700 --> 40:50.233 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
This piece is called
Sugar Freed,
40:50.266 --> 40:51.933 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
and it's made from pastillage.
40:51.966 --> 40:56.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Pastillage is a sugar paste
popularized by Queen Victoria
40:56.800 --> 40:58.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
in the late 1800s,
40:58.433 --> 41:03.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
and the form of these
teeth is inspired by Nanny,
41:03.366 --> 41:07.233 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
and many of you, maybe
Faizal would know this,
41:07.266 --> 41:11.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
Nanny was the equivalent
of Sojourner Truth
41:11.433 --> 41:12.500 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
but in Jamaica.
41:12.533 --> 41:16.333 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
She was a African
woman who was captured,
41:16.366 --> 41:20.333 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
and then she
emancipated herself,
41:20.366 --> 41:22.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
and ran to the hills,
41:22.700 --> 41:25.133 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
became part of the
Maroon Kingdom there,
41:25.166 --> 41:29.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
and helped free other enslaved
people in the Caribbean.
41:29.766 --> 41:35.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Eduardo Galeano wrote
this prose poem,
41:35.233 --> 41:37.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"Queen of the Free" to her.
41:37.966 --> 41:41.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"It happens in the first
half of the 18th century.
41:41.266 --> 41:43.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"The international
division of labor
41:43.366 --> 41:48.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"decides that Jamaica exists
to sweeten Europe's table.
41:48.166 --> 41:51.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"The land produces sugar,
sugar, and more sugar.
41:51.533 --> 41:54.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"In Jamaica, as in
Brazil, diversity of diet
41:54.866 --> 41:58.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"is a privilege of
those who escape.
41:58.033 --> 42:00.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"Although fertile
land is hard to find
42:00.100 --> 42:01.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
"in the high mountains,
42:01.800 --> 42:04.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
"the Maroons figure out
how to grow everything,
42:04.266 --> 42:06.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"and even raise
pigs and chickens.
42:06.900 --> 42:09.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
"Hidden here, they see
without being seen.
42:09.900 --> 42:12.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"They sting and
then they vanish.
42:12.833 --> 42:15.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
"In the windward blue mountains
42:15.200 --> 42:18.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"Nanny has her temple
and her throne.
42:18.300 --> 42:20.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"She is queen of the free.
42:20.766 --> 42:23.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"Once a machine for
birthing slaves,
42:23.500 --> 42:25.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
"now she wears necklaces
42:25.266 --> 42:29.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
made of the teeth of
English soldiers."
42:34.766 --> 42:37.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I worked with one of
my hairdressing friends
42:37.700 --> 42:41.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70%
who was cutting off
the dreadlocks of
one of her clients.
42:41.033 --> 42:43.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And I said, if you have
anybody who decides to
42:43.066 --> 42:44.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
cut off their dreadlocks,
42:44.300 --> 42:46.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and they don't have any
problem with their dreadlocks
42:46.933 --> 42:49.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
then going to an artist
who might put the piece
42:49.966 --> 42:52.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
into the art
market, all of that,
42:53.866 --> 42:56.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
then please let me know.
42:56.733 --> 42:58.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
And so she did this.
42:58.100 --> 43:01.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
She cut off some clients'
dreadlocks and gave them to me
43:01.833 --> 43:03.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and so I had all
these dreadlocks,
43:03.266 --> 43:04.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and I put them
dreadlock to dreadlock
43:04.833 --> 43:06.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so that it made
this long length,
43:06.300 --> 43:09.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and it didn't measure
anything meaningful to me.
43:09.466 --> 43:10.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
And I kept trying to figure out
43:10.966 --> 43:13.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
what to do with
that measurement.
43:13.366 --> 43:18.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And so eventually I just
turned it into this skein,
43:19.366 --> 43:20.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
this ball of yarn,
43:22.133 --> 43:23.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I thought,
well, does the size
43:24.000 --> 43:25.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
of the ball of
yarn mean anything?
43:25.733 --> 43:26.866 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
No, no.
43:26.900 --> 43:29.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
'Cause I wanted to
assign something
43:29.133 --> 43:32.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that had meaning to
all of these hairs,
43:32.033 --> 43:33.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
to the length of it.
43:33.366 --> 43:37.833 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70%
And then I just went
to something that
I know about hair.
43:39.766 --> 43:41.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
If you grow hair like I do,
43:41.600 --> 43:47.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
then you probably have
about 80,000 follicles
43:47.533 --> 43:51.166 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
on your scalp.
43:51.200 --> 43:52.733 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Eighty thousand.
43:52.766 --> 43:54.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So if you cut off
all your dreadlocks
43:54.366 --> 43:56.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that's like 80,000
follicles, you know,
43:56.666 --> 43:58.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and some more hairs of course
43:58.500 --> 44:02.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that are comprised
in this piece.
44:05.300 --> 44:08.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
80,000 was a meaningful
number to me,
44:08.366 --> 44:13.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
because 80,000 is the
number of unknown,
44:14.700 --> 44:18.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
well, the number of people that,
44:18.166 --> 44:20.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
in the height of slavery,
44:20.600 --> 44:22.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
were forcibly
migrated in one year.
44:26.933 --> 44:29.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So how big is UW-Madison?
44:29.666 --> 44:31.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
(audience members
murmur and answer)
44:31.866 --> 44:33.800 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
40,000.
44:33.833 --> 44:34.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
- [Man In Audience] 44.
44:35.000 --> 44:39.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
- 44,000, so take all the
students at UW-Madison,
44:40.433 --> 44:42.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
double that, all
of those people,
44:44.333 --> 44:46.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
subjected to
transatlantic slavery.
44:48.033 --> 44:49.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Put into slavery by Africans,
44:50.000 --> 44:53.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
taken by Europeans,
subjected to slavery
44:53.700 --> 44:55.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
all over the world.
45:00.200 --> 45:02.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So I'm often thinking about race
45:02.466 --> 45:06.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and race designation,
because it's a construct.
45:06.933 --> 45:09.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
We know this.
45:10.100 --> 45:14.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
And this sort of,
45:15.600 --> 45:17.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
let me explain to you
how much I think about it
45:17.933 --> 45:18.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
as being a construct.
45:19.000 --> 45:20.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So, remember before
when I told you
45:20.633 --> 45:23.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that my great-grandfather
is Scottish?
45:23.200 --> 45:27.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Right, but I bet none of
you when I'm standing here
45:27.200 --> 45:30.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
are thinking, yes, it's a
nice Scottish lass, right?
45:30.533 --> 45:32.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I mean it's just not
really how we do it
45:32.666 --> 45:33.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
in the US right?
45:34.933 --> 45:37.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And yet I think about the
notion of passing, right,
45:37.700 --> 45:40.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and even though the
complications within that notion
45:40.666 --> 45:42.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
that people would accuse
45:42.233 --> 45:45.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
an African American
person of passing.
45:45.100 --> 45:49.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Now in order for
someone to pass,
45:49.766 --> 45:52.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
they would have
to understandably
45:52.633 --> 45:57.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
have European heritage, right?
45:57.033 --> 46:01.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So the notion of passing is
based on white supremacy, right?
46:01.766 --> 46:03.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Because if I stood
before you right now,
46:03.866 --> 46:08.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I said to you,
I'm a Scottish person
46:08.133 --> 46:11.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
passing for black
(audience laughs)
46:11.033 --> 46:13.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it makes you laugh, right?
46:13.900 --> 46:15.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
But the reverse is something
46:15.100 --> 46:16.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that we would do all the time.
46:16.866 --> 46:20.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
That there would
be a person who has
46:20.333 --> 46:24.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
7/8 European heritage
and 1/8 African heritage
46:24.366 --> 46:27.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
if you could draw the
lines that neatly,
46:27.266 --> 46:30.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and say that person's
passing for white.
46:36.033 --> 46:37.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And this pieceNo Passing,
46:37.400 --> 46:42.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
which also refers to drawing
borders around places,
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and the complications therein.
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So, both of those pieces
were made with combs,
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because combs are one
of the ways that we,
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you know, straightened,
combs are intended
46:58.400 --> 47:02.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
for straight hair,
these kinds of combs.
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Madame C.J. Walker, who I
was telling you about before.
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She is often credited
with creating
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the hair straightening
comb, the hot comb,
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but she did not.
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Some Parisian people
did that way before,
47:17.800 --> 47:21.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
but she did make a
bunch of products
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that helped African American
women straighten their hair.
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And so I wanted to make
this piece which was
47:29.300 --> 47:31.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
an homage to her, actually.
47:31.300 --> 47:34.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And not so much around
the hair straightening,
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but in the, just the
basic badassedness of her,
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'cause this is a woman
who was born in 1867,
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a full 100 years before I was,
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who started in the cotton
fields of the South,
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and by the time she
died in 1919 in her 50s
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had amassed a fortune
of a million dollars.
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Realize that this is before,
47:58.200 --> 47:59.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
well before the
Civil Rights Movement
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and the Women's
Suffrage Movement.
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It seems impossible,
and also realize
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that because she had
that kind of money
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in this capitalist country,
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that it meant that she was
invited to the table, right?
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So people would listen to her,
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and let her speak, and she
used that money to launch
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anti-lynching campaigns.
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This is a piece in which
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one of her most famous
quotations is stitched,
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one work on each comb.
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"I'm a black woman from the
cotton fields of the South.
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"I was promoted to the washtub.
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"I was promoted to the kitchen.
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"I promoted myself to
the business of hair
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on my own ground."
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So, as I told you, this
is the 100th anniversary
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of her passing, and so
I had a show on which to
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this piece was part
of the exhibition,
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and also this piece, a
nod to Ntozake Shange,
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who in 1976 wrote this
amazing piece called
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"For Colored Girls Who
Have Considered Suicide
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When the Rainbow is Enuf."
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That's comprised of an Afro wig
49:16.700 --> 49:20.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
which I had great fun wearing
before I made the piece,
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and then these combs
that are thread-wrapped.
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And the last few
pieces have to do with
49:30.400 --> 49:34.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
what my husband calls
my subtle politics
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and he means that as a joke.
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(audience laughs)
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So I made this piece
calledWriter Type
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to talk about when,
49:43.600 --> 49:47.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
whether the African
American voice is silenced,
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or is this a piece in
which the typewriter
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is sort of embodying
African American voice.
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So is it a person or is it about
49:58.233 --> 50:00.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the silencing of something?
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And I think that both of
those readings and more
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can live in an artwork.
50:04.766 --> 50:05.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
This piece came quickly.
50:05.966 --> 50:09.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
I picked a Remington typewriter
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because Remington was
known for providing arms
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during the Civil War,
50:15.900 --> 50:19.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and then they switched
to typewriters,
50:19.166 --> 50:22.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
so the pen and the
sword is in this piece.
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I picked a noiseless
because of that play
50:25.666 --> 50:27.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that I was just talking about,
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and I picked this year of
Remington Seven Noiseless,
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because I'd like to think,
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it's a model made in the 1930s,
50:34.700 --> 50:37.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and I'd like to think this
is the kind of typewriter
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that Richard Wright might
have writtenNative Sonon.
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Just pretend.
50:41.733 --> 50:46.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And a fellow artist of
mine, Thurmond Statham said,
50:46.666 --> 50:49.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"Every medium has its
own hidden language."
50:49.966 --> 50:54.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And so I quickly
started thinking about
50:54.700 --> 50:58.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
what would the font
for this typewriter be,
50:59.000 --> 51:02.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and I worked with
a graphic designer
51:02.933 --> 51:06.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
by the name of Bo Peng
to develop this font
51:08.600 --> 51:11.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
as a language of the typewriter.
51:11.566 --> 51:15.966 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
So I used to just show the
51:16.000 --> 51:19.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
the glyph or the font
there with the letters,
51:19.766 --> 51:21.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and people would say, "Oh,
that doesn't look like
51:21.600 --> 51:22.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it would be so hard to read."
51:23.000 --> 51:24.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So then I actually
want to show you
51:24.600 --> 51:26.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
what it really looks
like when it's written.
51:29.033 --> 51:32.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
And so even this I think about.
51:34.200 --> 51:39.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
The great writer and
thinker Ngugi wa Thiong'o
51:40.433 --> 51:43.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
wrote this book called
51:40.433 --> 51:43.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
De
colonizing the African Mind,
51:43.200 --> 51:45.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
in which, it's a slim novel,
51:45.233 --> 51:50.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and he gives a call out
to other African writers,
51:50.733 --> 51:53.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and he said "Please,
please, please
51:53.166 --> 51:56.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"write in your native tongue.
51:56.533 --> 51:58.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"Otherwise, we'll lose it,
51:58.333 --> 52:01.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"and people won't
understand the metaphors
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"that we have in language.
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We'll lose the language." Right?
52:04.366 --> 52:07.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
It's a beautiful thing.
52:07.033 --> 52:09.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I mean those of you who
are bi or trilingual
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know that there's
some things that
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literally don't translate
from one language to another.
52:14.433 --> 52:16.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So it's not just for
the loss of metaphors,
52:16.533 --> 52:19.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the loss of a way
of thinking, right?
52:19.700 --> 52:20.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So he made this petition.
52:20.966 --> 52:23.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I met Ngugi wa Thiong'o
not too long ago.
52:23.300 --> 52:24.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I read the book years before,
52:24.733 --> 52:27.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but he came to Amherst
College not too long ago,
52:27.400 --> 52:30.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and as I was talking to this
phenomenal man who should,
52:30.866 --> 52:35.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in my opinion, have won a
Nobel Prize many years ago,
52:35.033 --> 52:40.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I realized, oh my
gosh, but even
52:40.666 --> 52:44.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
if a Yuroba person
writes a book in Yuroba
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what is the font?
52:51.333 --> 52:56.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I mean maybe if an Ethiopian
person writes a book
52:56.166 --> 52:59.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it might be in Amharic right?
53:00.233 --> 53:01.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But or maybe it
could be in Arabic,
53:01.933 --> 53:03.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
if it's someone else.
53:03.200 --> 53:08.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But the, it's going to
be in the Roman alphabet.
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Like European hegemony is
just, it's a big thing.
53:17.533 --> 53:20.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience murmuring)
53:20.233 --> 53:23.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So I'm going to try and
teach everyone to know
53:23.466 --> 53:24.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the Confederate flag of truce
53:24.866 --> 53:26.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and to learn the twist font.
53:26.533 --> 53:28.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Those are my charges
for the rest of my life.
53:28.600 --> 53:30.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience chuckles)
53:30.800 --> 53:35.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So I want to share with you
this idea of language and hair,
53:36.033 --> 53:38.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I think
sometimes as artists,
53:38.300 --> 53:39.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
you know that famous quote,
53:39.733 --> 53:42.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
good artists borrow,
great artists steal?
53:42.900 --> 53:45.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So I'm going to put
myself in the category of
53:45.166 --> 53:47.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
great artist here, 'cause
I just stole this idea
53:47.800 --> 53:49.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
'cause I'm confessing
to you, remember?
53:49.600 --> 53:51.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
I'm confessing.
53:51.933 --> 53:53.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I had heard that
there was a barber
53:53.866 --> 53:56.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who would give little
boys free haircuts
53:56.400 --> 54:00.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
if they read to him in an
African American neighborhood
54:00.733 --> 54:03.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and I just loved that idea.
54:03.100 --> 54:05.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So a friend of mine,
Scott Cunningham,
54:07.400 --> 54:09.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
runs a poetry festival in Miami,
54:10.000 --> 54:13.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and it's a small
mission to, in April,
54:13.966 --> 54:15.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
which is Poetry Month,
54:15.633 --> 54:20.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
expose everyone in
Miami-Dade County to a poem.
54:20.233 --> 54:23.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
A little mission (chuckles).
54:23.866 --> 54:27.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
So he invites artists, and
artists do huge gestures like
54:29.066 --> 54:33.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
painting a poem on top of
the Big Box Store right,
54:33.366 --> 54:38.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
in the flight path, so that
people get exposure to a poem,
54:38.333 --> 54:42.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
sky writing poems, small
interventions
54:42.900 --> 54:45.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
like going to Goodwill,
54:45.733 --> 54:52.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and putting a poem tucked in
to the label of a garment.
54:53.600 --> 54:57.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But what I stole was this
idea from this barber.
54:59.100 --> 55:02.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So I asked these
African American men
55:02.800 --> 55:07.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in these two neighborhoods
in Miami Overtown
55:08.800 --> 55:11.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
African American,
and then Little Haiti
55:12.833 --> 55:18.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to read a poem, a
very specific poem
55:18.300 --> 55:20.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
by Calvin Hernton, the
late Calvin Hernton.
55:20.533 --> 55:22.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
If you don't know
Calvin Hernton,
55:22.900 --> 55:26.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
he was a professor,
African American poet,
55:26.333 --> 55:28.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
professor at Oberlin College,
55:34.566 --> 55:37.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and the poem that
he wrote in the 70s
55:37.566 --> 55:39.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
is unfortunately
55:39.333 --> 55:43.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
as valid
today as it was then.
55:45.500 --> 55:47.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And it was my great privilege
55:51.166 --> 55:55.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to have these men
read this poem.
55:56.933 --> 55:59.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And I'll recite it for
you 'cause I know it.
55:59.200 --> 56:01.300 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
In fact it's,
56:03.766 --> 56:05.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
well, I'll recite it to you.
56:06.966 --> 56:11.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
The poem's called
"The Distant Drum."
56:13.733 --> 56:16.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
"I am not a metaphor
56:16.633 --> 56:19.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
"or a symbol.
56:19.666 --> 56:21.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
"This you hear
56:21.566 --> 56:25.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"is not the wind in the
trees
56:25.600 --> 56:28.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
"nor is it a cat
56:28.266 --> 56:32.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
"being maimed in the streets.
56:32.533 --> 56:34.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"I am being maimed
in the streets.
56:36.333 --> 56:39.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"It is I who weep,
56:39.366 --> 56:45.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"laugh, feel pain, or joy.
56:45.466 --> 56:50.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"Speak this because I exist.
56:50.333 --> 56:52.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
"This is my voice.
56:53.100 --> 56:55.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"These words are my words.
56:56.166 --> 56:58.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
"My mouth speaks them.
56:59.333 --> 57:01.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
"My hand writes.
57:01.400 --> 57:05.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"It is my fist
you hear beating
57:05.333 --> 57:08.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
against your ear."
57:08.233 --> 57:11.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Questions, comments?
57:12.200 --> 57:13.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
So the dust.
57:13.400 --> 57:18.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
It's literally dust
from two institutions
57:18.700 --> 57:20.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that have to do with
the Declaration.
57:20.766 --> 57:23.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Declaration House,
Independence Hall, right?
57:23.900 --> 57:27.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So this is a piece
that we had planned.
57:27.966 --> 57:30.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
You know I was an
artist in residence
57:30.400 --> 57:32.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
at the Fabric
Workshop and Museum,
57:32.666 --> 57:35.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
which meant that they just
asked me to come a lot
57:36.000 --> 57:38.033 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
over 18 months.
57:38.066 --> 57:40.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So this piece had
been in the plans
57:40.066 --> 57:41.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and the works for
a while and I said
57:41.900 --> 57:43.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it really is important to me
57:43.300 --> 57:44.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that we're in this
historic city,
57:44.700 --> 57:48.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that we gather dust
from a historic site
57:48.033 --> 57:50.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that has something
to do with this text.
57:50.933 --> 57:53.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And the staff there
went about it,
57:53.066 --> 57:54.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and they talked to some curators
57:55.000 --> 57:57.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
at some historic museums.
57:57.166 --> 58:00.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
We've got the dust,
no problem, great.
58:00.166 --> 58:01.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
This is literally like
58:01.433 --> 58:04.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the stuff that comes out
of their vacuum cleaners.
58:04.400 --> 58:06.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Like it's the dirt of
the institution, right.
58:06.733 --> 58:09.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So we're just saying
can we have your dust.
58:09.733 --> 58:10.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
58:10.833 --> 58:12.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Yeah, like what you're
about to throw away,
58:13.000 --> 58:14.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
can we have that?
58:14.766 --> 58:19.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And about three weeks
before the show opened,
58:21.066 --> 58:23.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the institution
that had said yes,
58:23.066 --> 58:25.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
a curator said yes, the
museum staff said yes,
58:25.533 --> 58:27.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
it went up and then
someone said "No,
58:27.700 --> 58:29.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
you can't have our dust."
58:29.700 --> 58:31.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
58:31.500 --> 58:34.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So apparently a black girl
can't have someone's dust.
58:34.066 --> 58:35.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience laughs)
58:35.700 --> 58:38.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I mean I can't even have it
to clean it up (chuckles)
58:38.300 --> 58:39.366 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
as Ella Watson.
58:42.266 --> 58:46.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
But then, and that institution
shall remain unnamed.
58:46.133 --> 58:48.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But then these two other
institutions stepped forward
58:48.900 --> 58:51.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and they were actually
more better suited
58:51.300 --> 58:54.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
for their relevance
to the Declaration.
58:55.300 --> 58:59.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So, I often think about that
in the terms of reversals,
58:59.766 --> 59:02.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
because I realize that
people will come after me,
59:02.433 --> 59:04.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and they do, for
the work that I do,
59:04.566 --> 59:06.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
saying "You have no
right to use a flag
59:06.600 --> 59:07.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
to clean a floor."
59:07.600 --> 59:09.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Well it's not a
flag, it's a towel,
59:09.200 --> 59:10.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and you printed it.
59:10.600 --> 59:12.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
59:12.666 --> 59:15.066 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Right?
59:15.100 --> 59:16.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
But when someone was like,
59:16.166 --> 59:17.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
"No, you can't even have our
dust,"
59:17.866 --> 59:19.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I was like really?
59:19.066 --> 59:23.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
(audience laughs)
59:24.633 --> 59:27.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Anyway, is there
another question for me?
59:27.533 --> 59:31.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I want everyone to
know this truce flag,
59:31.533 --> 59:35.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and not because I think
that it's all about peace.
59:35.766 --> 59:38.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
In fact I think it's
a complicated symbol
59:38.366 --> 59:40.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
because the more that
you know about the truce,
59:40.633 --> 59:45.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
there's a historian
that just wrote a book.
59:48.700 --> 59:50.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I cannot remember the
name of the book, sorry.
59:50.533 --> 59:55.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But his name is David
Silkenat, and he--
59:55.033 --> 59:56.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Did someone know the
name of the book?
59:56.633 --> 59:58.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- [Woman In Audience]
Raise the White Flag.
59:58.300 --> 59:59.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
-Raise the White
Flag, thank you.
59:59.733 --> 01:00:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Yes Madison audience
(audience laughs).
01:00:02.200 --> 01:00:04.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
The collective wisdom,
collective wisdom.
01:00:04.233 --> 01:00:09.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So, David Silkenat and I
reached out to each other
01:00:09.466 --> 01:00:12.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
around this, because
it was just April 9th
01:00:12.133 --> 01:00:15.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that the truce flag was flown,
01:00:15.466 --> 01:00:17.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and his book just came
out in early April,
01:00:17.733 --> 01:00:19.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and my show just
opened in late March,
01:00:19.600 --> 01:00:21.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so it's like aw, we
found each other,
01:00:21.333 --> 01:00:22.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and people connected us.
01:00:22.533 --> 01:00:28.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And one thing that's clear
as I'm reading this book
01:00:28.266 --> 01:00:33.333 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5%
is how easy it was
for Confederate
soldiers to surrender.
01:00:34.266 --> 01:00:36.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
They would just say
like, "Oh, you know like
01:00:36.100 --> 01:00:37.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
this is tough, I
want to surrender."
01:00:37.666 --> 01:00:40.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And they wouldn't be
made prisoners of war.
01:00:40.533 --> 01:00:42.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
There's all this
gentleman's agreement stuff
01:00:42.733 --> 01:00:43.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
that was happening.
01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:47.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Which then makes so much
sense when you realize like
01:00:47.233 --> 01:00:48.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
nothing was ever taken away.
01:00:48.833 --> 01:00:50.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Like, you're enemies
of the state,
01:00:50.300 --> 01:00:52.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
but nothing's ever taken away.
01:00:52.166 --> 01:00:55.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Because there's, I guess
there's this recognition
01:00:55.100 --> 01:00:56.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
that we all know, right,
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that what the South
was holding on to
01:00:59.233 --> 01:01:00.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
was the dirty business
that the North
01:01:00.766 --> 01:01:04.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
had been involved in not so
many years before, right.
01:01:04.033 --> 01:01:05.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So there's this sense of like
01:01:05.466 --> 01:01:07.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
"You're just a little
slower than us.
01:01:07.300 --> 01:01:10.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
We're just not doing
that anymore (chuckles)."
01:01:10.500 --> 01:01:12.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I mean I'm understating this,
gravely,
01:01:12.866 --> 01:01:15.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
but it's a complicated symbol.
01:01:15.833 --> 01:01:19.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Truth and reconciliation is
complicated work,
01:01:19.766 --> 01:01:26.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
and so I just feel if we focus
on the peace brokering,
01:01:27.566 --> 01:01:31.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and that we might be a little
further along than we are.
01:01:31.600 --> 01:01:35.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And I just love the idea
that there are children,
01:01:35.566 --> 01:01:39.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who came to, and
will continue coming
01:01:39.666 --> 01:01:42.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to the show at the
Fabric Workshop,
01:01:42.600 --> 01:01:44.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
who will have the opportunity
01:01:44.666 --> 01:01:50.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to sit at the loom and
weave a truce flag,
01:01:51.466 --> 01:01:53.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you know, participate
in weaving a truce flag,
01:01:53.700 --> 01:01:55.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
cause it takes a long
time to make cloth.
01:01:55.500 --> 01:01:57.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
It takes a long
time to undo cloth,
01:01:57.166 --> 01:01:59.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
it takes a long to make cloth.
01:01:59.566 --> 01:02:01.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Or they can sit at
an old school desk
01:02:01.766 --> 01:02:04.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and do a rubbing, of
an old school desk
01:02:04.133 --> 01:02:07.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that has been etched with
a texture of the truce flag
01:02:07.433 --> 01:02:10.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and they can do a rubbing,
black Tyvek, white crayon
01:02:10.333 --> 01:02:11.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and take that with them.
01:02:12.933 --> 01:02:14.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Or they might just walk
into a space and say
01:02:14.933 --> 01:02:17.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
"That's a really big cloth.
01:02:17.833 --> 01:02:19.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
What's that?"
01:02:19.366 --> 01:02:21.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And it might just
lodge back there
01:02:21.266 --> 01:02:25.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
in the same way that
the Dukes of Hazzard
01:02:25.100 --> 01:02:28.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
is in my mind (audience laughs)
01:02:28.300 --> 01:02:31.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
as being a thing.
01:02:32.166 --> 01:02:33.700 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Right?
01:02:35.200 --> 01:02:37.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I made a piece very early on.
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:42.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
My graduate thesis work
was a kente cloth strip
01:02:44.766 --> 01:02:46.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
woven piece that's, you know,
01:02:46.433 --> 01:02:48.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that's just for the
textile people in the room,
01:02:48.500 --> 01:02:52.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that so it in part looked
like West African cloth,
01:02:52.466 --> 01:02:54.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and in part looked
like an American flag
01:02:54.800 --> 01:03:00.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I was thinking about
issues of nomenclature,
01:03:02.166 --> 01:03:07.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
like my grandmother
would call people colored
01:03:07.733 --> 01:03:11.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and then there was negro, and
then there was black,
01:03:11.600 --> 01:03:13.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and then there was Afro
American and then there was
01:03:13.700 --> 01:03:15.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
African American.
01:03:15.433 --> 01:03:17.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
I'm fond of black, personally.
01:03:17.100 --> 01:03:19.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
It's a little bit more diasporic
01:03:19.233 --> 01:03:21.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
but that's my personal thing.
01:03:21.566 --> 01:03:23.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
When I say African
American I usually mean
01:03:23.933 --> 01:03:26.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
African Americans.
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:29.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
And so I was just thinking about
01:03:29.866 --> 01:03:32.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
how all of those name
changes are trying to
01:03:32.566 --> 01:03:35.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
attend to something
but ultimately,
01:03:35.233 --> 01:03:36.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
there's something about identity
01:03:36.866 --> 01:03:39.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
that lives on in cloth.
01:03:39.266 --> 01:03:41.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It's great to have
people in the audience
01:03:41.466 --> 01:03:44.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who knew me when I was
like wet behind the ears
01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:46.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
assistant professor
because it is true
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:48.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that I'm now looking
back on my work
01:03:48.966 --> 01:03:51.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and I'm realizing that I
think my work is better
01:03:51.666 --> 01:03:54.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
when people are engaged in it,
01:03:54.066 --> 01:03:57.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and so the project that
Joy Door is referring to
01:03:57.666 --> 01:04:00.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
is a project that had a
lot of play in Wisconsin
01:04:00.833 --> 01:04:04.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
when I was here called The
Beaded Prayers Project,
01:04:04.666 --> 01:04:08.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and it was based on the
etymology of the word bead
01:04:08.166 --> 01:04:11.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and prayer, shared etymology
because of rosary beads.
01:04:11.833 --> 01:04:14.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You know this mnemonic
device, a bead,
01:04:14.666 --> 01:04:17.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
helps you know where you
are in your prayer cycle
01:04:17.033 --> 01:04:19.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
so when a old English beden
01:04:19.233 --> 01:04:20.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
is the word that means to pray,
01:04:20.900 --> 01:04:22.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and also the word
that we get bead from.
01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:26.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And I invited
people to write down
01:04:26.466 --> 01:04:30.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
wishes, hopes, dreams,
and aspirations,
01:04:30.733 --> 01:04:33.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and make these amulets
that were then beaded,
01:04:33.133 --> 01:04:35.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and that project actually,
01:04:35.466 --> 01:04:39.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
every time I think it's going
to go to bed it lives again,
01:04:39.133 --> 01:04:41.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
so we're showing it again at
01:04:41.733 --> 01:04:43.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the Textile Museum in D.C.
01:04:46.233 --> 01:04:50.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And strangely, though
I haven't read this,
01:04:50.433 --> 01:04:53.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I was told that someone left
me this card right here,
01:04:53.766 --> 01:04:55.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and it's someone who,
01:04:55.500 --> 01:05:01.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
who I must have done a
beaded prayers project with
01:05:01.333 --> 01:05:03.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
'cause there is one.
01:05:04.266 --> 01:05:07.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience murmurs in awe)
01:05:07.333 --> 01:05:08.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
There was another question?
01:05:09.700 --> 01:05:12.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Well nobody's
getting truce flags,
01:05:12.433 --> 01:05:14.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
reparations, reparations.
01:05:14.133 --> 01:05:19.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience laughs heartily)
01:05:20.966 --> 01:05:23.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So it's an interesting
thing, right,
01:05:23.066 --> 01:05:26.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
because there actually is
a piece of the truce flag
01:05:26.533 --> 01:05:31.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
that's at Appomattox at
the museum at Appomattox,
01:05:31.566 --> 01:05:36.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and when I called Appomattox
to get information about it,
01:05:36.566 --> 01:05:38.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
the person that I
got on the phone
01:05:38.233 --> 01:05:40.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
that I was told was the curator,
01:05:40.633 --> 01:05:41.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
someone who knew something,
01:05:41.733 --> 01:05:45.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
said to me, and keep in mind,
01:05:45.033 --> 01:05:46.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I've seen the one
at the Smithsonian
01:05:46.833 --> 01:05:48.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and this person said to me,
01:05:48.366 --> 01:05:50.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
"Oh we have the largest piece."
01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:53.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
No, I was almost a math major,
01:05:53.300 --> 01:05:55.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but I know if something's
divided in half.
01:05:55.700 --> 01:06:00.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(audience laughs heartily)
01:06:00.833 --> 01:06:02.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
So I had more questions.
01:06:02.533 --> 01:06:04.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
I said, "Well how large is your
piece?"
01:06:04.966 --> 01:06:07.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And this gentleman told
me that it was, you know,
01:06:07.100 --> 01:06:08.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a couple inches by
a couple inches,
01:06:08.700 --> 01:06:11.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and I said "Do you not
know that there's--"
01:06:11.033 --> 01:06:12.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
but not with this much attitude,
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"Do you not know that
the nation's museum,
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two hours north of
you has half (sighs)?"
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Anyway, but it's not
what the focus is.
01:06:26.266 --> 01:06:28.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
It's not what's being
amplified, right?
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And so the other thing
that I want to say
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is that I don't think
of the truce flag work,
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thisMonumental Clothwork
as being a Southern issue.
01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:46.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Again, Richmond's story,
and the Civil War's story,
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but Richmond's story,
is not a Southern story,
01:06:50.700 --> 01:06:52.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
it's not an American story,
01:06:52.766 --> 01:06:54.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
it's a global story.
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The truce flag also fits
right into that category,
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in my opinion.
01:07:03.733 --> 01:07:06.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
But it is going to have
a venue in the South,
01:07:06.100 --> 01:07:09.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
eventually, (laughs) yeah.
01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:10.966 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Thank you.
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(heavy applause)