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- Today we are pleased to 
introduce Jim Willaert

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as part of the Wisconsin 
Historical Museum's

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History Sandwiched In 
lecture series.

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Jim Willaert is the Curator of 
Interpretation and Collections

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at Wade House Historic Site 
in Greenbush, Wisconsin.

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Wade House is one of the 12 
historic sites and museums

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operated by the Wisconsin 
Historical Society.

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Jim has worked in the history 
field for more than 25 years.

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Prior to Wade House, 
he worked at Conner Prairie

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Interactive History 
Park in Indiana.

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He holds a master's 
degree in history

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from Eastern 
Illinois University.

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Here today to discuss the Wesley 
W Jung Carriage Collection,

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please join me in 
welcoming Jim Willaert.

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[applause]

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- Good afternoon. 
Thank you all for coming.

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For those of you not familiar 
with us, Wesley W Jung

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Carriage Museum is part of 
Wade House Historic Site.

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We're located in Greenbush.

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For those of you not familiar 
with Greenbush, we are located

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exactly halfway between 
Sheboygan and Fond du Lac,

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which is why Mr. Wade 
built a hotel there

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along the stagecoach 
line in the first place.

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But today we're going to 
focus on the Wesley W Jung

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Carriage Museum, which 
is in its new home.

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It moved in in July of 2013.

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I'll start a little bit further 
back, though, than that.

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Jacob Jung, the founder of what 
eventually became the Jung

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Carriage Company, immigrated to 
the United States with his

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sister, Margaretha, and his 
mother, Magadalena, in 1853.

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They departed Europe from 
originally Baden, Germany,

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but Havre, France, sailing on 
the ship New York

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with 172 other people.

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And I don't know about you guys,

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I'm really not a big fan 
of long distance traveling.

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So the idea of a seven-week 
rough and stormy voyage across

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the Atlantic that they took 
really doesn't appeal to me.

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But they did indeed 
arrive safely

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in New York in 
September of 1853,

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stayed around for about a month 
before moving to Columbus, Ohio.

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And I don't know 
if any of you guys

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have ever been to 
Columbus, Ohio.

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Not a real exciting 
place at times.

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And I think Jacob felt the same 
way because about a year later

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he moved to Sheboygan.

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Didn't waste a lot of 
time once he got here.

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Got himself a job working 
for a carriage company,

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which we'll talk about 
in a few moments,

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and, of course, found a 
girlfriend and got married.

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Although I really shouldn't 
say found a girlfriend.

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See, Jacob had gone to church

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with a young lady named 
Eleanora Wilke Nack,

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and on March 25, 1855, 
they had their first date.

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And about, the first thing 
Jacob did was propose.

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And he wanted to get 
married tomorrow.

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Well, Eleanora, being 
a little more sensible 
than Jacob, said no.

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I'll marry you but we have 
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tomorrow because I've 
got some baking to do.

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[laughter]

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But they did marry two days 
after their first date.

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Eventually they would 
have six children.

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Eleanor, or Clara; Jacob Jr; 
Wilhelm, Willie;

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Heinrich, Henry; 
Otto; and Alfred.

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Lots of nice good German names.

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And this is really 
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because not only did Jung 
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but he came to 
Sheboygan for a reason.

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And that reason was it was an 
area that had seen a lot of

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German immigration and had a 
lot of skilled woodworkers

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already there and available to 
do what he wanted to do,

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which was build carriages.

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He came here with an idea,

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and that idea was to 
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Originally he worked for 
an existing company,

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Brothers and Jones, 
located at the corner of

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Pennsylvania Avenue 
and 9th Street.

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By the way, this is not Brothers 
and Jones, but it is located

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at the corner of 
Pennsylvania and 9th Street.

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Brothers and Jones, 
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was not the best 
company to work for.

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They couldn't really pay these 
guys, and about a year later,

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after working for them, 
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coworker of his by the 
name of Lawrence Artmann

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were able to take 
over the business.

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Now, we don't know what kind of 
discount they got for money

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owed, but we do know that they 
very quickly changed the name

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to Jacob Jung and 
worked together

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for 12 years until 
Artmann's death.

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Neat thing about the 
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they kind of had 
a unique setting.

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The corner there on 
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had a whole bunch of buildings 
on it and had a courtyard,

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but only one 
building was theirs.

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So they built the carriages in 
the building, and they used the

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courtyard as a showroom and 
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reputation that people 
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not only for basic carriages 
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personally-designed carriages.

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And the business went so 
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after he got it, Jacob was able 
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We just saw it here. 
I actually should go back.

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It's a Richardsonian 
Romanesque building.

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Wood frame, timber frame, 
brick and stone facade,

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and it's just a lovely building.

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It still stands today, 
if you want to go to 
Sheboygan and see it.

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Although today we don't 
make carriages there.

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We have a beauty salon, 
a photographer,

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a lawyer, and a bar.

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Inside it was an amazing place.

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It had a paint shop, a wood 
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Employed 15 to 20 men, and what 
I love about this shop is that

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everybody's working in kind 
of tight proximity here.

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I can't find my cursor, 
but we have a fellow

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right there in the middle.

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He's putting mortises in 
hubs to build wheels.

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In front of him, you can 
see bundles of spokes.

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By this point they 
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pre-made from somebody else.

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A fellow working on trim on the 
left, fellow sawing other trim

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on the right, and the young man 
standing in the middle, wearing

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a tie, looking very important, 
is a very young Wesley.

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This picture, by the way, 
this is the 1904.

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Look at the factory, 
this picture was taken 
about 1912, 1913.

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As I mentioned earlier, 
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Every one of them worked 
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Everybody in the family knew how 
to build vehicles, sleighs,

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wagons, carriages, and built 
beautiful pieces.

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But everybody also 
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Wilhelm is going to work

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in the painting and 
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You notice in the picture, 
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and decorating at one end?

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He opened his shop 
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with the carriage factory.

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Jacob Jr, is going to take 
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And Wilhelm will work 
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Henry, he's going to work for a 
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and then he will start 
a shoe company.

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By the way, if anybody's 
interested, this pair of Jung

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boots is available for sale 
somewhere on the Internet.

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Alfred went into the clothing 
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He even offered 
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with a five-dollar purchase 
if you had the coin.

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Otto didn't go into business for 
himself, but he constantly

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worked with his brothers in 
their various businesses.

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But the entire family did stay

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in Sheboygan for 
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Always tied to the 
carriage company, no 
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and the name did 
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Originally, it was 
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In the late 19th century, 
it was renamed J&W Jung

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when Jacob Jr, and 
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And in 1901 it became what we've 
come to know as the Jung

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Carriage Company and stayed 
in business until 1917 when,

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unfortunately, like many other 
carriage businesses in the

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state, those pesky automobiles 
reduced the demand, and instead

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of going into the bicycle 
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the brothers merely separated

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and went into their 
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One of the neat things 
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is everything they 
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The paint was specific 
to the buyer.

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The design of the vehicle was 
specific to the buyer's needs,

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their business, and even 
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to fit comfortably.

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And they were not inexpensive.

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This little carriage 
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By the way, the $13.85 is 
just a little repair work.

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The carriage you see here 
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in the early 20th century,

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at a time when the equivalent 
vehicle in the catalogs

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of their competitors in 
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So this was the 
Cadillac of its time.

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However, they sold 
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that were instrumental in 
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You can see here a column 
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on a flatbed carriage 
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For those of you who might have 
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in the past, you might 
recognize those wheels.

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They're now under 
a circus wagon.

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The building that we looked at, 
by the way, did stay in the

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family until 1926 and became a 
historic landmark in 1974.

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But the reason we really 
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was because of Jacob's 
grandson, Wesley.

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Wesley was born in 1899.

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He grew up with the carriage 
business around him.

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He worked in the blacksmith 
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and the wood shop for a 
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before going off to join 
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When he got back, he went to 
school, spent some time here

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at the university in Madison, 
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But he never lost his love

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for the family business 
and for vehicles.

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And when he got a little bit 
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extra money, he started 
collecting these vehicles,

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restoring things that had 
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He got so interested in it, he 
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members of the Carriage 
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He was the treasurer, wrote 
articles for their journal,

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participated in carriage-driving 
competitions, and really

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surrounded himself with the 
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And, of course, in 1968,

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he donated the collection 
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and founded the Wesley 
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This is a picture, from 
what I understand, of 
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which was paint the 
striping on vehicles.

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And you'll see his work 
as we go through

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the rest of our talk here today.

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So let's move on to 
some of the vehicles.

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Like all of us who have a 
collection, there's that

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one thing you bought that 
maybe you shouldn't have.

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And the next thing you know, 
you've got a hundred full-size

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vehicles in the barn out back, 
you've spent hundreds

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of dollars or thousands 
of dollars fixing them,

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and your wife is wanting to know 
why you have all this stuff.

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Well, this is the one.

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It's a heavy delivery wagon.

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We just refer to it as 
the Herzog meat wagon.

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It was owned by George and made 
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who was a wholesaler meat dealer

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a couple miles 
north of Sheboygan.

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The Jungs built it 
for him in 1904,

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and he used it for 
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hauling whole sides of 
beef around town to the 
various markets.

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So I would imagine that this

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was pretty funny looking 
when it was full.

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The original cost of this guy? 
A whopping $135.

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And, of course, being 
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when we're done with something 
we have another use for it.

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When Mr. Herzog was done, he 
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constantly for many years at 
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his Belgians pulled during 
the horse competitions.

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Wesley, of course, being Wesley,

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got a real deal on it 
when he bought it.

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He paid $25.

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[laughter]

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I have not included this 
information in our program

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today, but I did mention 
Wesley was an accountant.

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And one of the really funny 
things that he liked to do

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was any time he 
exhibited his wagons,

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on the sign he told everybody 
what he had it insured for.

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This wagon is very elaborate.

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It has a fifth wheel allowing 
the front end to turn.

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Very smooth action.

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It also does have a good set of 
breaks on it because we do have

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some hills around Sheboygan, 
and, fully-loaded,

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this thing is a 
very heavy piece.

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As I said, it's not only 
the first piece he bought,

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it's the first 
piece he restored.

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Imagine this, if you will, 
close your eyes

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and see the wagon in green.

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Wes hated that.

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So he redid it in the original 
red, yellow, and black paint

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scheme, and the one thing that 
really caught his attention,

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and he had to get this right, 
was the steer head.

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And this is really 
important to Wesley.

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Because what happens when you 
go to the store to buy decals?

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They're identical.

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So when you put one on 
both sides of the wagon,

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one steer is facing forward, 
the other steer is facing back.

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Wesley was not going to have 
a backwards-facing steer.

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He spent three or four years 
trying to find two decals

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with the same cow that 
would face forward.

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He wrote letters around the 
country, he called his daughter

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in New York and had her go out 
to all the stores that

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sold decals, and she finally 
found these under the counter

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in a hardware store 
covered with dust.

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They'd been made by a company in 
Bavaria called Pullman Fletcher,

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shipped to the United States, 
nobody wanted them apparently,

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and she got them and shipped 
them to us here in Wisconsin,

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where Wesley, so pleased with 
his decals, put them in a

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waterproof container and locked 
them in the safe for seven years

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to make sure that 
nothing happened to them

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until he got around 
to using them.

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So you can see by this, he 
put a lot of time, effort,

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and money into the 
restoration work he did.

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And one of the things that 
he was proudest of in his

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collection was a bobsleigh built 
by his grandfather about 1870.

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It's not really that fancy.

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It's a, you know, 
standard wood finish.

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It's got some what would today 
we would call pinstriping on it,

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but it's a very 
lightweight vehicle

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showing incredible workmanship.

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That dashboard that's 
bent into almost an S

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is one piece of wood 
that was steamed

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and meticulously bent 
into that shape.

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I mentioned a moment ago that 
this is a bobsled, and does

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anyone know the difference 
between a sleigh and a bobsled?

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Two sets of runners.

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Bobsleds have two 
sets of runners,

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and the front one can be turned.

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A sleigh has a singe 
set of runners

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that are in a fixed position.

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So this can go really fast 
and it takes curves

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much better than a 
standard sleigh.

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Some of the vehicles 
that Wes restored

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he did on a bit of a whim.

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And the canopy top 
surrey is probably

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his biggest ode to pop culture.

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This was again made by the 
family company in about 1890,

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and when Wes got it, he liked it

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because it was a 
very family piece.

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This is a surrey, and a surrey 
is a two- to three-seat vehicle

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with a roof protect you from the 
sun, and generally they tended

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to be very reasonably priced so 
that families could afford them.

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You could run them 
with one horse,

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so you didn't have to own two

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but you could use 
two if you wanted.

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And when Wesley got this one, 
he restored it around the 1950s

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because he was very 
excited to restore this

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to this particular 
color combination.

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Notice the fringe on the top.

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The color scheme 
matches the lyrics

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to the song from "Oklahoma."

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And I mentioned Wesley, you 
know, sometimes did some things

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because he liked to, you know,

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show people what he'd done 
and what he could do.

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He not only would show you this 
and tell you all about the color

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scheme, but one of Wes' favorite 
things to do was to show people

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the album cover from the 
soundtrack to "Oklahoma"

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and point out the 
surrey on the cover

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did not match the paint 
scheme to the lyrics.

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So, he also loaned this one 
to the local community theater

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for their production 
of "Oklahoma."

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But its true fame comes from 
a different direction.

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In 1957, this restored surrey 
took a trip to Spring Green and

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was used as the presentation 
vehicle for the Spring Green

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centennial parade's 
grand marshal.

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And I don't know if any of you 
can recognize the gentleman

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in the back seat, but that 
is Mr. Wright.

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Wright new Wesley Jung.

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He had eventually sent some 
pieces to him for restoration

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work and asked if he could 
borrow this particular piece.

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To give you an idea of how much 
effort we're talking for the

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time, to send a driver from 
Spring Green to Sheboygan,

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to Spring Green to Sheboygan 
and back,

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660 miles of driving

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to pick this up and use 
it for a short parade.

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But we all know that 
Mr. Wright did what

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Mr. Wright wanted to do, 
and he wanted this wagon.

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The piece that we have 
in our collection today

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that was actually 
owned by Mr. Wright

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was this roof-seat omnibus.

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I don't know if you can see it, 
but there's a seat up there 
on the roof.

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It's got seating inside, it's 
got seating on the front of the 
cabin, and then, of course,

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the driver who sits right 
behind the brake line there.

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And this is just 
an amazing piece.

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Omnibuses were used when 
you picked up your guests

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at the train station and 
drove them to your resort

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or drove them to your hotel.

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It really wasn't something 
that many people

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had their own private one of, 
but Mr. Wright did and he used

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this particular piece to 
pick up new apprentices

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at the train station in Spring 
Green and take them to Taliesin.

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You can see the inside 
very nice upholstered.

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There are some kind of scary 
stories of Mr. Wright's driving

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that I probably should mention.

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I believe the phrase that was 
used by one of his apprentices

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was you would see him racing 
into town toward the train

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station, standing in the 
carriage, coattails flying

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behind him, reins in hand, whip 
in the other, no ticket in his

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pocket, but he made it on 
the train before it left.

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[laughter]

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And I would imagine 
that seeing him standing on top

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of this would have 
been really funny.

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It's not a short vehicle.

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That driver seat is a good 
seven feet off the ground.

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This is one that 
was probably very,

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one of the very first ones 
ever displayed by Mr. Jung.

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It went on exhibit 
in Sheboygan in 1958

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under partial restoration,

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and he didn't finish it 
until 1968.

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But at the same time that he was 
showing this off, his inventory

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records showed that he had nine 
vehicles in his possession

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that had belonged to Mr. Wright.

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And what we have since found 
out is that the Wright estate

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sent all these vehicles to 
Wesley for restoration work.

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And he sent eight of 
them back, unrestored

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or partially restored, 
and he kept this one.

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And this may sound 
like a familiar story

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to those of you familiar 
with Mr. Wright.

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But apparently Mr. Wright was 
known for not paying his bills.

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So what we can assume is that 
Wesley kept this one in payment

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for the work he had done on 
it and for the partial work

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he had done on a governess cart.

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So today this one is 
in excellent shape.

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Three or four of the ones that 
he did have in his possession

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at one point have been 
returned to Taliesin

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and they are still there today, 
although not on exhibit.

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Flipping gears a little bit,

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let's go very high tech 
from the very simple.

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Wesley also loved 
fire equipment.

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And he managed to get 
this one to restore it.

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And this was a total mess.

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Somebody had pumped the 
equipment full of mud

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and let it sit.

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It took four months of soaking 
in oil to get all the parts out.

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But this is a Silsby Pumper.

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It's number 863,

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for those you keeping track 
of where they all are.

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It was built in Seneca Falls, 
New York, in 1886

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and served its fire company in 
Berlin, Wisconsin, very well.

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They used this device 
until 1929.

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00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:28,333
And what's really 
neat about it

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is that this guy has a rotary 
twin steam engine in it.

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He can get that thing going.

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By the way, it's restored 
to full functionality.

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It is so finely machined that 
you can blow on the blades in

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00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:46,833
the turbine and they will spin.

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But seeing it go down the road 
had to be really cool because

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the guy in the back is there, 
he's standing in the coal box,

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and he's shoveling coal in this 
thing as it goes down the road.

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It takes seven minutes from the 
time you get the fire going

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until you can start 
pumping the water.

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00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,400
And this guy with the 
water source will pump

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500 to 600 gallons a 
minute over 200 feet.

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Just an amazing 
piece of equipment.

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It also was highly decorated.

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00:24:19,866 --> 00:24:22,333
But, unfortunately, 
for a while firefighters

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00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:24,533
didn't really like these guys.

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You know how we all feel 
when we get new technology,

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what's the first 
thing everybody says?

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I'm going to lose my job.

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00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:35,266
And it was the same thing here.

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But eventually it caught on.

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Like I said, they used 
it for over 40 years,

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so they eventually 
must have liked it.

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The other end of the spectrum, 
though, is the hook and ladder,

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00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:49,833
which was not pulled by horses.

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00:24:49,933 --> 00:24:52,566
This device was designed 
for fire departments

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00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:56,066
that were too poor 
to buy a horse.

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00:24:56,166 --> 00:24:58,166
And it was pulled by firemen.

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00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:01,933
Everybody grabbed a hold 
and took off running.

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00:25:04,566 --> 00:25:09,866
However, when the Jungs built 
this, they did stop and think

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00:25:09,966 --> 00:25:13,133
and they put brakes on it to 
make sure that it did not run

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00:25:13,233 --> 00:25:16,966
over the firemen 
when going downhill.

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By the way, this one is from 
the Plymouth Fire Department.

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Plymouth is a town about 
15 miles west of Sheboygan.

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One of the really challenges 
of restoring this,

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Wesley did all the line work 
on there that you see.

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He was able to build new ladders

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00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,333
because this thing 
was a total wreck.

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There was no parts left.

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And he bought fire 
extinguishers,

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00:25:45,233 --> 00:25:47,400
and he went out and 
bought axes to go in it.

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You can see where the 
fire extinguishers.

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00:25:49,733 --> 00:25:55,333
You can see the ax there 
sitting behind the rail.

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00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:58,366
But nobody made axes 
the right size anymore.

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00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:00,866
So he took these new axes, went 
down to the fire department

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00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,433
and made a deal with them.

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00:26:02,533 --> 00:26:05,266
If they would give him old axes 
that would fit his wagon,

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00:26:05,366 --> 00:26:09,033
he would buy them these nice, 
new ones, which are in

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00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:12,333
so much better shape than 
anything you guys own.

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00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:15,166
So the fire department 
traded him the axes.

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00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:17,333
Everybody got what they 
needed from the deal,

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00:26:17,433 --> 00:26:20,166
and Wesley was able to continue 
the restoration of this vehicle.

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00:26:20,266 --> 00:26:22,766
The fellow in the 
picture here

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is there for kind 
of an odd reason.

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00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,033
His name is Frederick.

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00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:35,500
He also credited with building 
this particular hook and ladder.

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00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,100
So, some records say it 
was built by the Jungs,

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00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600
others say it was built 
by this gentleman.

463
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,600
And it is possible that he 
worked for the Jungs,

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00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:47,033
but this is one of the 
mysteries we try to solve is

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00:26:47,133 --> 00:26:51,433
where things come from and 
who actually did the work.

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00:26:51,533 --> 00:26:53,933
He did build the 
second hook and ladder

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00:26:54,033 --> 00:26:56,033
that the fire department 
ended up owning.

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00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,700
And here's a picture of the 
guys who had to pull it.

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Our fire department, by the way,

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00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:08,100
ran out all the English-speaking 
members, took all their notes

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00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,066
and held all their 
meetings in German.

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Of course, we can't discuss the 
19th and early 20th century

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without a milk wagon.

474
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:22,866
And Wesley restored this one.

475
00:27:22,966 --> 00:27:25,166
It was built in 1905.

476
00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:27,400
Unfortunately we 
don't know by who.

477
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,566
And this is actually framed out 
just like a building would be,

478
00:27:30,666 --> 00:27:32,666
and then the sides are covered.

479
00:27:32,766 --> 00:27:35,133
It is a completely 
enclosed vehicle

480
00:27:35,233 --> 00:27:38,033
to help protect the products.

481
00:27:38,133 --> 00:27:42,766
Keep the heat off 
them in the summer,

482
00:27:42,866 --> 00:27:44,800
help keep them from 
freezing in the winter.

483
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,400
It's even got a front window.

484
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,633
The reins actually go through 
a hole under the window

485
00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:50,666
so the driver can 
see them inside.

486
00:27:50,766 --> 00:27:56,433
But one of the really cool 
things about this wagon and this

487
00:27:56,533 --> 00:28:01,733
type of wagon is today we are 
coming upon what we're calling

488
00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:03,966
the first self-driving vehicles.

489
00:28:04,066 --> 00:28:05,566
Well, these were self-driven.

490
00:28:05,666 --> 00:28:10,000
The horses new their route so 
well that when the milkman got

491
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:14,300
out to deliver the products, 
butter, milk, grade A milk,

492
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,033
you know, all those things 
that came to your home,

493
00:28:17,133 --> 00:28:19,300
the horse would keep 
going to the next stop.

494
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,433
And the driver would just 
walk along behind him,

495
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,466
get what he needed, and finally, 
and the end of the block,

496
00:28:24,566 --> 00:28:26,066
he'd get back in 
and actually drive.

497
00:28:26,166 --> 00:28:29,100
But the horse was the brains 
of the operation.

498
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:37,166
Of course, these were 
a common sight

499
00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:39,566
in most towns in the 
early 20th century.

500
00:28:39,666 --> 00:28:42,600
The Gridley Dairy of 
Milwaukee eventually

501
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,133
became part of Borden.

502
00:28:44,233 --> 00:28:46,566
This particular vehicle actually 
was used to deliver milk

503
00:28:46,666 --> 00:28:50,800
in Wauwatosa until 1937.

504
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,766
So it had a long life.

505
00:28:56,266 --> 00:28:58,200
Sleighs could also be 
used for delivery.

506
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,266
We know what winters 
are like around here.

507
00:29:01,366 --> 00:29:03,766
Another version of Herzog.

508
00:29:03,866 --> 00:29:07,833
This one was built again 
by the Jungs around 1900.

509
00:29:07,933 --> 00:29:11,166
This one delivered whole 
bodies and whole carcasses,

510
00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:12,700
just like the last one,

511
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,333
only instead of to 
the stores this one

512
00:29:15,433 --> 00:29:21,933
went from the slaughterhouse 
to Herzog's wholesale center.

513
00:29:22,033 --> 00:29:24,966
Winter did not stop 
the business though.

514
00:29:25,066 --> 00:29:29,133
We just took off the wheel, 
put on runners.

515
00:29:29,233 --> 00:29:33,000
Here's a picture of another one 
of his sleighs in the summer

516
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,033
with the wheels on it.

517
00:29:35,133 --> 00:29:39,133
And you can see it's full 
of sides of beef.

518
00:29:39,233 --> 00:29:43,800
Now, you may notice that 
this particular vehicle

519
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,333
was the same color as the 
other Herzog one we looked at.

520
00:29:47,433 --> 00:29:51,100
That wasn't a Herzog thing.

521
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,866
There were some very 
popular color combinations 
of the time period.

522
00:29:54,966 --> 00:29:58,133
Yellow with black and 
red was very common.

523
00:29:58,233 --> 00:30:04,133
Green with yellow, red with 
black, or red with yellow are

524
00:30:04,233 --> 00:30:06,766
all represented in most 
vehicle collections.

525
00:30:06,866 --> 00:30:08,933
Of course, you'll also 
find wood color,

526
00:30:09,033 --> 00:30:11,266
you'll find black with yellow,

527
00:30:11,366 --> 00:30:13,733
but the one thing that 
I have not run across

528
00:30:13,833 --> 00:30:18,000
on a consistent basis at all 
is a blue vehicle,

529
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,566
and my guess is it 
has to do with

530
00:30:21,666 --> 00:30:24,233
the cost of the 
blue pigment.

531
00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:30,066
Keeping with our yellow 
and black theme,

532
00:30:30,166 --> 00:30:32,466
this is my favorite piece 
in the collection.

533
00:30:32,566 --> 00:30:37,133
For those of you who are into 
old cars: Studebaker.

534
00:30:37,233 --> 00:30:41,166
This one was made in South Bend, 
Indiana, about 1900.

535
00:30:41,266 --> 00:30:44,433
The same people that 
ended up making the cars.

536
00:30:44,533 --> 00:30:50,300
And this was used to keep the 
oil and the dirt down on roads.

537
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,500
Usually it was a 
community-owned vehicle.

538
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,166
This particular one was 
privately-owned.

539
00:30:56,266 --> 00:30:57,766
Look at the spraying gear.

540
00:30:57,866 --> 00:31:00,600
This particular one took 
two operators: a driver

541
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:02,666
and an oiler who 
sat in the back.

542
00:31:02,766 --> 00:31:05,066
He has multiple levelers 
and dials there

543
00:31:05,166 --> 00:31:10,333
to control the flow of 
his water or his oil.

544
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:14,666
Here's kind of a good 
look at one spraying.

545
00:31:14,766 --> 00:31:22,933
What you can't see on here is 
the big fancy A on the front.

546
00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:26,333
This was owned by Louis Armour.

547
00:31:26,433 --> 00:31:31,400
He used-- Danforth Lodge was 
his estate in Oconomowoc.

548
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:37,500
So he used this to treat the 
roads at his private compound.

549
00:31:38,533 --> 00:31:40,933
I have two different 
stories to tell you

550
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:43,500
about where this came from now.

551
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,500
The official statement is 
it was donated to Mr. Jung

552
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,266
by a group of Sheboygan 
businessmen.

553
00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:51,533
The more interesting story 
came from a visitor

554
00:31:51,633 --> 00:31:54,233
who came through my museum 
about two years ago.

555
00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:57,600
He stopped me as I was walking 
through and said, "You know,

556
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:02,200
"that was in my dad's garage, 
and it was covered with oil.

557
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,866
"You couldn't see the color.

558
00:32:03,966 --> 00:32:06,266
"You couldn't see the 
logo or anything.

559
00:32:06,366 --> 00:32:08,066
"We knew where it came from,

560
00:32:08,166 --> 00:32:12,900
"but nobody wanted to think 
remotely about going through

561
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200
"all the effort of scrubbing 
oil off something that big

562
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:18,966
"because you know how oil 
doesn't come off anything."

563
00:32:19,066 --> 00:32:21,566
So they called Mr. Jung 
and said if you want it

564
00:32:21,666 --> 00:32:24,833
and can get it out of here, 
it's yours. He did.

565
00:32:24,933 --> 00:32:27,300
Took it home, hit it 
with a garden hose

566
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,133
and everything came 
right off it.

567
00:32:31,466 --> 00:32:36,566
And they found 
Mr. Armour's logo,

568
00:32:36,666 --> 00:32:39,400
or probably the 
best word for it,

569
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:42,333
on the front of it, and 
it turns out that this was used

570
00:32:42,433 --> 00:32:46,333
at the Armour-Valentine estate 
that I mentioned earlier.

571
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,833
This is Wisconsin, we have 
to talk about beer.

572
00:32:53,466 --> 00:32:57,000
The Jungs did also 
make beer wagons,

573
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,433
but this one is 
another Studebaker.

574
00:33:00,533 --> 00:33:07,400
It was made originally for the 
Kurth Brewery back about 1898.

575
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,100
And they used it for 50 years

576
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,266
until they ran it 
into the ground.

577
00:33:11,366 --> 00:33:14,400
Mr. Jung got his hands on it, 
restored it for Kingsbury

578
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:19,533
in Sheboygan, who used it 
through the 1950s and 1960s.

579
00:33:19,633 --> 00:33:22,000
It's basically a flatbed wagon.

580
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:26,466
It just has some sides on it to 
keep things from falling off.

581
00:33:26,566 --> 00:33:28,033
They were very proud 
of their beer.

582
00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:30,433
It's fit for a king.

583
00:33:30,533 --> 00:33:32,300
But they loaded this 
thing down so much

584
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,033
they had to build it 
industrial strength.

585
00:33:35,133 --> 00:33:36,866
You can see how many 
layers of leafs

586
00:33:36,966 --> 00:33:38,833
there are in those springs.

587
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:41,000
Now, there are three 
types of beer wagons:

588
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:45,333
those that haul grain, those 
that haul cases of bottles,

589
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:47,200
and those that haul kegs.

590
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:52,033
This hauled cases of bottles, 
which, when you fill a wagon

591
00:33:52,133 --> 00:33:55,433
this big, you have some 
significant weight.

592
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:59,133
So they built it to 
withstand the pressure.

593
00:33:59,233 --> 00:34:00,700
And it's an amazing piece.

594
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,000
It's still there. 
It still works.

595
00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:10,333
And those springs today are 
still strong enough that when

596
00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:13,633
we had to get up in it with a 
couple of good sized guys to

597
00:34:13,733 --> 00:34:19,433
move some things, springs did 
not even begin to bend.

598
00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:25,166
Since we're talking about vice, 
Velvet tobacco was sold

599
00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:29,333
in Sheboygan by Herman Schuelke, 
the mayor.

600
00:34:31,766 --> 00:34:34,566
Three-term mayor.

601
00:34:34,666 --> 00:34:36,733
And he was very proud 
of his business.

602
00:34:36,833 --> 00:34:38,900
He made home deliveries: 
cigars, cigarettes, tobacco.

603
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,900
You can't get that today.

604
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,033
And he had the Jungs build this 
for him, and I love this piece.

605
00:34:45,133 --> 00:34:48,766
That is what it looked like the 
day it rolled off the line.

606
00:34:48,866 --> 00:34:51,300
It has never been restored.

607
00:34:52,833 --> 00:34:55,100
We are its fourth owner.

608
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,133
Mr. Schuelke owned it, 
he gave it to his son-in-law,

609
00:35:01,233 --> 00:35:03,833
who sold it to Mr. Jung, 
who gave it to us.

610
00:35:05,933 --> 00:35:09,733
The trim around the word 
"Velvet" is gold leaf.

611
00:35:09,833 --> 00:35:11,600
You can see the beveled glass.

612
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:14,566
He spent a significant 
amount of money on this.

613
00:35:16,566 --> 00:35:19,333
And, of course, you know, 
smoking didn't have the stigma

614
00:35:19,433 --> 00:35:22,133
that it did today back then, 
because, you know,

615
00:35:22,233 --> 00:35:24,233
we all smoked with Velvet Joe.

616
00:35:27,666 --> 00:35:31,933
This I think is one of the most 
amazing vehicles I've ever seen.

617
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:39,266
Everything on that is wood. 
Even the curtains.

618
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,300
It was built by James Cunningham 
& Sons & Company in 1890.

619
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,766
It came from Rochester, 
New York.

620
00:35:49,866 --> 00:35:52,966
And this one's black. 
We're used to seeing that.

621
00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:54,900
Black's a mourning 
color for adults.

622
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,566
We also have another one that 
I'm not going to show you today.

623
00:35:57,666 --> 00:35:59,566
It's a children's hearse. 
It's white.

624
00:35:59,666 --> 00:36:02,366
And children's hearses were 
white, representing purity.

625
00:36:02,466 --> 00:36:04,633
We don't generally 
exhibit that one

626
00:36:04,733 --> 00:36:08,466
because it tends to freak 
people out for some reason.

627
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:10,800
But if you take a close 
look at the curtains,

628
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:13,166
you can see there's 
pilasters on here.

629
00:36:13,266 --> 00:36:18,833
I believe they're Doric columns. 
Hand-carved curtains.

630
00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:22,233
Some of their pieces had 
carved gargoyles on them.

631
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,800
They were just 
incredibly detailed.

632
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:27,566
And this is what 
Cunningham was known for.

633
00:36:27,666 --> 00:36:29,600
You can pull this 
with two horses.

634
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,066
Four, of course, 
is more impressive.

635
00:36:32,166 --> 00:36:35,100
And it's often considered 
that a hearse like this

636
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,700
was the fanciest ride most of 
its occupants ever took.

637
00:36:45,666 --> 00:36:49,133
By the way, these guys 
are still in business.

638
00:36:49,233 --> 00:36:51,966
They still make hearses, 
but their big thing is

639
00:36:52,066 --> 00:36:54,466
custom interiors 
for your vehicle.

640
00:36:54,566 --> 00:36:58,266
So, if you're on your way home 
today and you're thinking

641
00:36:58,366 --> 00:37:01,966
the inside of my car needs 
a redo and you've got a minimum

642
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:07,700
of one million dollars, they 
will talk to you, but apparently

643
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,133
they won't touch anything under 
a one-million-dollar interior.

644
00:37:13,866 --> 00:37:16,300
And that's James Cunningham 
up there in the corner,

645
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400
looking every bit 
the hearse salesman.

646
00:37:21,566 --> 00:37:23,233
Children's wagons 
weren't very common,

647
00:37:23,333 --> 00:37:25,466
but the Jungs did 
make some of them.

648
00:37:25,566 --> 00:37:28,900
This one was made for a friend 
of the family about 1903,

649
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,633
and it has one sister, or twin, 
whatever you want to call it.

650
00:37:33,733 --> 00:37:37,133
The other one is blue and 
it says police on it.

651
00:37:37,233 --> 00:37:41,933
That was made for 
Jacob's grandkids.

652
00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,733
And Jacob did 
personally make this

653
00:37:44,833 --> 00:37:47,300
for some friends named Long.

654
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,666
The neat thing about these 
wagons is that not only did they

655
00:37:52,766 --> 00:37:56,333
look just like the adult ones 
which made the kids happy,

656
00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:58,500
but they were designed 
to hook your dog to.

657
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,233
[laughter]

658
00:38:00,333 --> 00:38:03,333
So you could actually 
go out and use it. By the way, 
this is the police one.

659
00:38:03,433 --> 00:38:06,200
And that is decorated to look 
just like the one used by

660
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,266
the 1st Ward police 
in Sheboygan.

661
00:38:09,366 --> 00:38:11,466
It's blue. 
One of the few ones.

662
00:38:11,566 --> 00:38:14,633
Now, I know what 
you're thinking.

663
00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:17,133
What if you don't have a dog?

664
00:38:17,233 --> 00:38:20,266
Well, you can hook your goat 
to it, you can hook your

665
00:38:20,366 --> 00:38:23,700
sheep to it, or, and this 
is the best of all worlds,

666
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,033
you can hook your turkeys to it.

667
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,300
[laughter]

668
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,033
And apparently load 
it with produce.

669
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:32,366
[laughter]

670
00:38:32,466 --> 00:38:34,366
I just hope this 
little guy isn't planning on

671
00:38:34,466 --> 00:38:37,533
going all the way to the port 
in Sheboygan with this.

672
00:38:37,633 --> 00:38:39,433
I love this piece.

673
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:42,666
I mean, that is just, can you 
imagine hooking up the turkeys

674
00:38:42,766 --> 00:38:44,766
and sending the kids 
out for a ride.

675
00:38:45,766 --> 00:38:48,700
Now, of course, if we're going 
to go to the very small,

676
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,166
we should also look at 
the incredibly elegant.

677
00:38:52,266 --> 00:38:58,200
Road coaches, also called park 
drags, were for the elite.

678
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:00,733
This particular vehicle was made

679
00:39:00,833 --> 00:39:03,066
by the CP Kimball Company 
in Chicago.

680
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:05,866
It comes from about 1880.

681
00:39:05,966 --> 00:39:09,900
And one of the great things 
about these is you could put

682
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,566
everybody you know on it, 
go to a sporting event,

683
00:39:12,666 --> 00:39:15,366
and use it as a 
mobile grandstand.

684
00:39:15,466 --> 00:39:17,433
And, of course, there are 
records of people complaining

685
00:39:17,533 --> 00:39:19,033
about these things 
parking in front of them

686
00:39:19,133 --> 00:39:21,900
and then they couldn't see.

687
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,733
It carried 16 passengers 
inside and on top.

688
00:39:25,833 --> 00:39:28,133
You can see the 
fellow at the back.

689
00:39:28,233 --> 00:39:30,466
There's a ladder there 
that helps you get up.

690
00:39:32,533 --> 00:39:36,266
And on top of that, it has 
a pantry in the back.

691
00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:41,333
This particular one came with 
two zinc-lined mahogany coolers.

692
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,433
And a drawer or tray to put 
your china, silverware,

693
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:54,566
and even wooden secured 
cones for your wine glasses.

694
00:39:56,300 --> 00:40:00,266
A little demonstration of how 
to pack on up there at the top.

695
00:40:00,366 --> 00:40:01,866
We didn't know this was there.

696
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:05,166
We were moving the vehicle one 
day, doing some cleaning on it,

697
00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:07,133
and decided to open 
the door in the back

698
00:40:07,233 --> 00:40:10,400
and all this really 
cool stuff was there.

699
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,366
Also, I should mention 
that we don't want to 
leave the horses out.

700
00:40:13,466 --> 00:40:15,933
There's another compartment at 
the front under the driver seat

701
00:40:16,033 --> 00:40:18,033
to put hay and oats 
for the horses.

702
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:22,900
This is a monstrous vehicle.

703
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,266
It's a good eight or nine 
feet to the top of it.

704
00:40:26,366 --> 00:40:29,200
And you have to have 
four horses to pull it.

705
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:35,866
It's what's called 
a four-in-hand.

706
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:41,766
This particular one has a 
little bit of a history to it.

707
00:40:43,866 --> 00:40:47,766
I would assume that those 
coolers saw a lot of beer in

708
00:40:47,866 --> 00:40:51,833
their day because this was owned 
by Captain Pabst and his family.

709
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,800
Well, the age of wagons 
came to a close.

710
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:04,700
Horse-drawn vehicles lost their 
appeal when the automobile came,

711
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,133
and it didn't take long.

712
00:41:06,233 --> 00:41:08,800
Here in 1911, Sheboygan--

713
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,633
By the way, 8th Street is kind 
of our main business district.

714
00:41:11,733 --> 00:41:15,300
You can see one car in 
the middle amid all the 
horse-drawn vehicles.

715
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,100
It was only seven years 
later that there's not 
a horse in sight.

716
00:41:21,766 --> 00:41:25,400
So, today, we can 
remember the vehicles,

717
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,833
we can remember the work of 
factories such as the Jungs,

718
00:41:27,933 --> 00:41:32,233
and, you know, the great 
work of preservation

719
00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:35,466
and restoration done 
by Wesley W Jung,

720
00:41:35,566 --> 00:41:38,566
exhibited in the 
museum of Wade House.

721
00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:39,900
Thank you.

722
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,666
[applause]