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>> Welcome to the last on our
series for the semester of our
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distinguished faculty lecture
series here in the Department of
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Gender and Women's Studies.
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My name is Janet Hyde and I'm
the director for the Center for
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Research on Gender and Women
which is the research arm of the
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Department of Gender and Women's
Studies.
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I am delighted to introduce our
speaker today, Professor Myra
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Marx Ferree, who is the Alice
Cook Professor of Sociology here
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at the University of Wisconsin
and has also served many years
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as the director of the Center
for German and European Studies.
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Myra earned her Bachelor's
degree at Bryn Mawr College in
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political science, actually.
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I didn't know that until I read
it.
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And then earned her PhD in
social psychology in the
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program-- in the social
psychology program of the
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Department of Psychology and
Social Relations at Harvard.
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She was also, before coming
here, she was at the University
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of Connecticut where she was
director of their women's
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studies program.
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Myra has published numerous
books.
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I'm not gonna tell you about all
of them because I think you'd
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rather hear her than hear my
long list but I wanna call to
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your attention some of her most
recent ones.
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In 2014, the book Gender:
Ideas, Interactions,
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Institutions, which was
co-authored by former graduate
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student Lisa Wade and published
by Norton.
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That's a textbook, too, right?
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For undergraduate courses.
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In 2013, the book Gender,
Violence, and Human Security:
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Critical Feminist Perspectives,
which was co-edited with Aili
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Tripp and Christina Ewig, also
of the Department of Gender and
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Women's Studies.
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And then in 2012, Varieties of
Feminism: German Gender Politics
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in Global Context, which was
published by Stanford University
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Press and won a bunch of awards.
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I also want to mention one
article by Myra because it's my
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favorite one.
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I've used it in my own work.
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The title of that article is:
"Practicing Intersectionality in
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Sociological Research: A
Critical Analysis of Inclusions,
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Interactions, and Institutions
in the Study of Inequalities",
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which was published in
"Sociological Theory" in 2010
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and won an award from the
section on race, class, and
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gender of the American
Sociological Association.
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Without further ado, let me
introduce Dr. Myra Marx Ferree,
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who will speak-- be speaking
today about gender equality in
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the age of academic capitalism.
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Myra.
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>> Thank you.
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[applause]
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It's quite an honor to be in
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this list, you have to
understand.
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I mean, I've come to the
previous three distinguished
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talks and they were really
excellent...
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[laughter]
...and I'm like, okay, the bar
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is pretty high here, let's see
what I can do.
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But I have to say it was a great
idea of Janet's to invite the
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faculty of the department to
talk.
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I've learned a lot and I hope I
don't disappoint you.
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This is a talk in which I'm
really going to just be laying
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out a few ideas about how
stratification processes in
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universities are changing and
what this has to do with gender
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equality.
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This is a book project that's
still in its relatively early
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stages which seems odd to say
since we've been slaving away at
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it for about three years.
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But it's coming along and I'm on
sabbatical next year, so we're
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hoping that it will really come
along.
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I'm interested particularly in
understanding feminist
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mobilization in a university
context as an institution that's
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undergoing a lot of stress and
strain, as those of us here in
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Wisconsin know all too well, but
I'm also interested in putting
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it into an international
context.
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[low voice] And, what the heck
here?
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What am I doing here?
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This is not right.
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Here we go.
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My 2012 book Varieties of
Feminism, was really the
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inspiration for this project
because, in looking at the very
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significant differences in how
gender was understood and how
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gender politics was done in
Germany and the United States,
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and in particular the
intersections between race and
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class and how race and class
were mobilized differently by
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feminists in Germany and the US
to understand what gender meant,
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that really got me thinking
about intersectionality and, as
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Janet said, Hae Yeon Choo and I
did this paper in which we were
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trying to think about level of
intersectionality and we drew a
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lot on Kimberle Crenshaw in
that, but tried to move a little
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beyond where she was.
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And she was talking about
structural intersectionality and
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political intersectionality.
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Structural being sort of like
where you are and political
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intersectionality being more
what you claim.
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And as I have been struggling
with how to think about
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institutions in an
intersectional light I've also
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had the good fortune to be
reading work that Keisha
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Lindsay, one of my colleagues,
has been working on about
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intersectionality and helping to
think about the different kinds
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of claims-making that are done
in different sites and how these
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are intersectional without
necessarily being progressive.
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So, if we think about
intersectionality as Keisha
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does, as what she calls
normatively malleable analytic
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framework, then we have to ask
the question about who has voice
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and what power they have to be
heard and how do you succeed?
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What kind of discourses have
hegemonic power?
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So, in this talk, and in this
project, I'm trying to approach
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the idea of intersectionality as
something that happens at the
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level of discourse.
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And if you think about that--
or a metaphor that I've been
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thinking-- woke up this morning
thinking about, I don't have a
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slide for it because I just woke
up this morning thinking about
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it...
[laughter]
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...but if you think about it as
different things like patriarchy
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and neoliberalism as being like
rocks thrown into a pond, and
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you have a number of different
ponds, Germany being one and the
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United States being another.
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And these different rocks are
thrown with different velocity,
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they come from different angles,
but what they do is they produce
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waves.
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And the physicists refer to
these circles of waves when they
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intersect as being interference
patterns and that everybody is
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located somewhere in these
interference patterns.
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These intersections are not
optional but they're very
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specific to particular sites.
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So, this leads me to the
question of: what is the age of
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academic capitalism?
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What's throwing rocks?
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What is going on here?
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And the main thing that I think
we've all experienced in one
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form or another is that
universities are a place where
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there's something being
transformed and struggled over
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and academic capitalism is a
word now much in use, borrowed
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from Slaughter and Leslie's book
in the 1990s, that's talking
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about corporatization as a
process that emphasizes economic
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growth, global education
markets, the new managerial
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class of administrators, the
profit potential that exists in
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universities.
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Now, this academic capitalism is
sometimes called neoliberalism
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but I wanna emphasize that
neoliberalism is never a term
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that is used by the people who
are advocating it or defending
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it.
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Like patriarchy is also never
used by its advocates and
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defenders.
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If you're actually arguing for
patriarchy or neoliberalism it's
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not the term.
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But, nonetheless, there is what
is clearly recognized as a
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transnational phenomenon
affecting universities and it's
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part of a broad and, I would
say, global restructuring of
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higher education that has
multiple dimensions.
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One of which is what is
sometimes called massification.
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That is to say higher education
now serves more students than
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ever before.
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What used to be an elite thing
is now much more available to a
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much larger number of students
and a much more diverse range of
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students.
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And by diverse I do not mean by
that just not white and middle
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class but I also mean in
different parts of the world and
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bringing different kinds of
experiences and different
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expectations into higher
education.
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And this restructuring that is
producing this particular form
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of neoliberalism that affects
universities, and in the slide I
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sort of sketch out some of the
aspects that you have probably
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directly encountered being here
at the university, but it's also
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part of a broader global
knowledge economy, where we have
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information being financialized.
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Lillian has been studying
intellectual property regimes,
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for example, as a part of that
process.
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Post colonial migration regimes.
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I wanna remind everybody, for
example, that passports and
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student visas and things like
that are only an invention of
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the last century.
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People traveled much more freely
before that.
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But, also, transnationalism, the
acceleration of physical travel
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and virtual communication, as
ways of managing intellectual
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capital.
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And any of you who've ever used
Skype know how that can be.
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So, what does this have to
do with gender equality reform
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politics?
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Well, I'm arguing that gender
equality is also a politics that
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is shaping universities and it
is a major mobilization.
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And like neoliberalism it is
both inside universities and
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transcends them.
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It has its particular forms of
university gender politics as
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well as the things that go
beyond it.
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Gender equality politics is a
way of thinking both about the
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kinds of claims that are being
made but also the political work
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that is being done with these
kinds of contested claims.
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And I'm just kinda heuristically
laying out three types of gender
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equality reform politics.
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The first is what I call
gender representation.
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And that may be in the sphere of
politics with things like party
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quotas, electoral goals, set
asides of particular seats.
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In family or educational systems
representation means the rights
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of women and men to have custody
over their children, to have
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access to certain kinds of jobs,
to enter certain kinds of
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educational institutions.
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And here, again, let me remind
you that a lot of the gender
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representation that we now take
for granted in educational
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institutions has really only
been achieved since the 1970s.
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Gender knowledge transfer is
another kind of gender equality
12:08.800 --> 12:11.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
politics that's very relevant to
universities but is also
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relevant outside of
universities.
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It's everything from what we do
here in Gender and Women's
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Studies to what Europeans call
gender mainstreaming projects.
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Advocacy-- gender equality
advocacy networks, networks out
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of state or local level like the
Wisconsin Women's Network, the
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gender networks, but also
transnational women in science
12:38.933 --> 12:43.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
and other things or other areas.
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I'm a proud member of
Sociologists for Women in
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Society which is a knowledge
transfer network in sociology
12:50.500 --> 12:52.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
around feminist work.
12:52.766 --> 12:55.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
And there's a lot of popular
writing about gender, too, and
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any of you who have been in the
feminist blogosphere lately know
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that is a large and expanding
area of gender mobilization.
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And the third type is what
I'm calling gender
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transformations, and that's the
actual changes of institutions.
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Mary Katzenstein argued that the
last major wave of feminism in
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the early part of the 20th
century was really about
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constructing institutions for
women and a lot of that carried
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over into the 1970s of making
women's groups, women's
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programs, women's things just as
the late 19th and early 20th
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century established women's
colleges and built institutions
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for women and networks for
women.
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What we see now is a lot more
gender equality mobilization
13:50.666 --> 13:53.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5%
that's about gender
transformation.
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Reorganizing existing
organizations to do more than to
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represent and include women but
to change how they function, to
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change the ways that schools
evaluate children, to change the
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kinds of ways that families
operate and how the division of
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labor is organized, to change
the way that work is supervised.
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So transformational work.
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And, of course, transformational
work around gender cannot help
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but intersect and collide with
the kinds of transformations in
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institutions that are happening
because of neoliberalism,
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academic capitalism, or the
knowledge economy, whichever you
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want to call as the causal
factor here.
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But the transformations that
come with the differences in the
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economy.
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However, I also want to
argue that gender equality
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reform politics, however broadly
we can put them into these three
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categories and recognize the
similarities across many
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different contexts, we should
also think about how they're
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very specific, in particular, in
various contexts.
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And that's the point that I made
in Varieties of Feminism
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looking at the German case and
then bringing it into comparison
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with the United States and the
UK and other countries in terms
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of thinking about what is it
that's specific about Germany.
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In this book, what we're trying
to do is to think about what is
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specific about both Germany and
the US.
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Both at the level of thinking
about the kinds of discursive
15:27.100 --> 15:30.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
campaigns, the national
campaigns to make people think
15:30.700 --> 15:33.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
differently about gender, work
differently about gender,
15:33.700 --> 15:37.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
transform institutions, gain
representation.
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You know, what kind of gender
knowledge transfer is going on?
15:42.033 --> 15:44.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
What kind of representation is
being sought?
15:44.500 --> 15:48.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
What kind of institutional
transformations are being looked
15:48.733 --> 15:52.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
for broadly in these different
contexts, Germany and the US?
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And then we're trying to bore
down on the specific
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institutions of colleges and
universities, the systems of
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higher education, in these two
countries.
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And the ways in which there are
real struggles going on that are
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different in Germany and the US
and even different if you look
16:08.733 --> 16:12.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
at the US or Germany between
what's going on, say, in
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engineering and in English or
between what's going on in
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economics and in sociology or
what's going on in languages and
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literature and what's going on
in fine arts.
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There really are different
struggles being waged that are
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specific to particular places
and so we need to look for how,
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if you will, those interference
patterns of different kinds of
16:33.433 --> 16:36.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
positioning and different kinds
of interests happen in very
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specific little ponds.
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And Wisconsin's one of those
nice, little ponds, right?
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So, let me just go back to
the how to think about how the
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university is changing.
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What is academic capitalism
doing?
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What kinds of things in this
system are really about academic
16:57.733 --> 17:02.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
capitalism or might be about
something else?
17:02.433 --> 17:08.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Is it just capitalism in the
neoliberal, dare not speak its
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name, kind of terrible remaking
and destruction of the
17:15.000 --> 17:16.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
university?
17:16.333 --> 17:19.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Or are there also other changes
happening that we could see
17:19.266 --> 17:24.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
perhaps in a different light,
positive or negative, but
17:24.433 --> 17:25.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
different?
17:25.800 --> 17:29.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
And we're arguing that there are
really two kinds of changes
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reshaping universities like
Wisconsin or the Ruhr University
17:34.900 --> 17:39.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Bochum where I had the privilege
of spending a semester.
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And these different universities
and within a country each
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different university is a
different university.
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Wisconsin is not Yale but
Wisconsin is also not MATC or
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Edgewood.
17:53.033 --> 17:55.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
So there really are very
specific kinds of things about
17:55.300 --> 17:57.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
universities.
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So, what are the things that are
happening?
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And we're arguing that there are
two broad transformational
18:05.066 --> 18:07.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
processes that are going on.
18:07.200 --> 18:10.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50%
These are structural
transformations but they're also
18:10.233 --> 18:12.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
discursive formations.
18:12.700 --> 18:15.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
They're ways of making sense
about how these structures are
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happening and helping it to go
along or holding it back.
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So I don't think it's useful to
call everything neoliberalism,
18:21.900 --> 18:26.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
but there are feedbacks between
both of these systems with each
18:26.733 --> 18:28.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
other.
18:28.500 --> 18:31.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
The first is what I'm calling
modernity, or the world is flat,
18:31.700 --> 18:33.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
principle.
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I owe that to Nicholas Kristof's
term.
18:36.900 --> 18:41.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
And that's a fairly positive
view of the transformations, but
18:41.833 --> 18:46.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
it is a view that this is the
post-enlightenment world, the
18:46.500 --> 18:48.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
modern era.
18:48.366 --> 18:51.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
Faith in science dominates,
along with reverence for the
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rituals of objectivity, like
quantification, and the actual
18:55.600 --> 18:59.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
technological innovations, from
the steam engine to the
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Internet, that are actually
changing what we can do and what
19:01.533 --> 19:03.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
we do.
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What we actually do and what we
talk about it-- how we talk
19:05.900 --> 19:07.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
about it.
19:07.500 --> 19:10.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Political liberalism is also
part of this notion of the
19:10.033 --> 19:12.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
modern era.
19:12.066 --> 19:15.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
In emphasizing individual
autonomy and the humanist
19:15.733 --> 19:18.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
freedoms of thought an inquiry.
19:18.166 --> 19:23.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
It is part of what has been
described as the world polity in
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which NGOs and other forms of
transnational organizations have
19:29.300 --> 19:33.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
increased their power and many
of them advocate a normative
19:33.700 --> 19:40.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
stance that is gender inclusive,
pro-citizenship rights, and in
19:40.633 --> 19:43.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
favor of human development.
19:43.500 --> 19:48.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
While it is transnational the
modernity principle is far from
19:48.800 --> 19:51.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
equally empowering for all.
19:51.633 --> 19:54.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
And one of the important factors
here is that the global north,
19:54.666 --> 19:57.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45%
in general, wields
disproportionate power in
19:57.533 --> 19:59.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
transnational governance
systems.
19:59.900 --> 20:03.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
So, for example, English.
20:03.400 --> 20:06.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
English, as the common language
for both science and for
20:06.233 --> 20:09.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
transnational governance,
confers special advantages on
20:09.500 --> 20:13.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
English speakers and on their
national institutions.
20:13.800 --> 20:17.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
And by the fact that the English
speakers get to do a lot to
20:17.100 --> 20:20.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
define the nature of the club to
which others get to seek
20:20.966 --> 20:24.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
admittance, institutional
responses are often directed
20:24.200 --> 20:28.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
towards conforming to the best
practices of these more powerful
20:28.400 --> 20:29.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
actors.
20:29.833 --> 20:33.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
So the thing that I wanna stress
here is the modernity principle
20:33.900 --> 20:39.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5%
is a principle not of
competition but of isomorphism,
20:39.233 --> 20:42.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
a nice sociological term for how
organizations tend to resemble
20:42.400 --> 20:49.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
each other through imitation,
cooperation, filling the same
20:49.766 --> 20:54.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
niche in an environment tends to
make them evolve to look pretty
20:54.766 --> 20:56.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
similar.
20:56.600 --> 20:59.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50%
Not directly through
competition, though of course,
20:59.700 --> 21:03.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
not unrelated to competitive
pressures.
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The second, of course, in
addition to modernity is markets
21:05.666 --> 21:08.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
and markets are not the same
thing as modernity, but they're
21:08.900 --> 21:11.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
certainly related to it.
21:11.466 --> 21:16.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
And there the principle is the
winner take all and it's a
21:16.966 --> 21:20.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
certainly less sunny view of
transformation.
21:20.100 --> 21:24.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
And this is what's often called
neoliberalism.
21:24.300 --> 21:27.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
I dislike the term neoliberalism
not only because its own
21:27.400 --> 21:31.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
defenders won't use it but
because there's nothing neo
21:31.666 --> 21:34.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
about it in the United States.
21:34.400 --> 21:40.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
It's a long standing way of
thinking about profit,
21:40.866 --> 21:45.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
entrepreneurship, privatization.
21:45.633 --> 21:49.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
I prefer to call the US version
of the transformation that is
21:49.200 --> 21:52.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
happening market fundamentalism.
21:52.066 --> 21:55.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
And what it stands for is the
kind of deregulation of
21:55.433 --> 21:59.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
capitalism to allow more winner
take all competition among
21:59.600 --> 22:03.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
unequals.
22:03.133 --> 22:07.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
It emphasizes the disruptive
power of capitalism, especially
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as it enters into academic
institutions.
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The promoters may applaud and
call this the entrepreneurial
22:14.766 --> 22:16.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
university.
22:16.200 --> 22:21.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
Or the critics may talk about
the ruthlessness of privatizing
22:21.733 --> 22:25.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
profits.
22:25.733 --> 22:28.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
Like modernity, market
models have internal
22:28.266 --> 22:32.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
contradictions and these are
especially visible in unfree
22:32.400 --> 22:37.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
market mechanisms, such as
monopolies and managerialism,
22:37.166 --> 22:40.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
which are techniques for
controlling the risks that
22:40.933 --> 22:45.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
unfettered markets produce even
for the powerful.
22:45.233 --> 22:49.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Managers exercise organizational
power directly, make decisions
22:49.300 --> 22:53.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
about what is to be produced and
how, set up structures to
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define, assess, and increase
productivity and to reduce
22:57.133 --> 22:58.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
costs.
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In many ways, what we see in the
form of academic capitalism is
23:02.766 --> 23:05.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
not so much the unrestrained
winner take all form of
23:05.733 --> 23:09.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
competition that we think of as
being capitalism, but the
23:09.400 --> 23:14.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
managerialism of controlling
productivity, reducing costs,
23:14.366 --> 23:20.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
and defining and structuring the
ways in which people do their
23:20.800 --> 23:22.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
work.
23:22.433 --> 23:25.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
Managers' interests do not
automatically align with those
23:25.666 --> 23:28.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
of owners or with those of
workers or with those of
23:28.733 --> 23:30.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
consumers.
23:30.866 --> 23:33.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
Their work is shaped by the
bureaucratic logic of growth and
23:33.733 --> 23:36.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
of measurement.
23:36.400 --> 23:40.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
And modern transnational
enterprises use these modern
23:40.533 --> 23:44.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
tools to navigate market
systems.
23:44.400 --> 23:47.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
In these systems productivity is
frequently and quantitatively
23:47.800 --> 23:51.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30%
assessed and
management-by-objectives is
23:51.466 --> 23:55.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
institutionalized, along with
many short-term market centered
23:55.766 --> 23:58.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
metrics.
23:58.000 --> 24:02.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Okay, that's my introduction to
academic capitalism as we see it
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here.
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So, what does that have to
do with gender equality
24:07.466 --> 24:10.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
movements?
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Our argument is that they share
the principles of modernity in
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markets to various varying
degrees but they are
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heterogeneous, both in their
discourses and in their
24:22.333 --> 24:26.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
political demands, that there's
no one global gender equality
24:26.666 --> 24:32.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
movement but a variety of
movements.
24:32.066 --> 24:38.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
In their discourses there are
different themes that overlap to
24:38.733 --> 24:43.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
a greater or lesser extent with
the themes that are brought
24:43.033 --> 24:47.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
forward in the discourses of
modernity and of markets.
24:47.833 --> 24:54.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
The modernity discourse in
universities overlaps with many
24:54.433 --> 24:56.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
of the demands that are
identified by political
24:56.900 --> 24:59.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
scientists with classical
liberalism.
24:59.700 --> 25:03.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
That doesn't mean leftish or
mildly-leftish as it does in the
25:03.500 --> 25:09.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
United States but, rather, the
liberal classical view of
25:09.433 --> 25:15.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
self-governance called
democracy, a bourgeois
25:15.866 --> 25:18.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
privileged elite claimed.
25:18.800 --> 25:21.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
Self-governance in the
university also echoes that
25:21.400 --> 25:25.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
classical liberal idea.
25:25.366 --> 25:30.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Liberalism talks about pluralism
and the competition of ideas and
25:30.633 --> 25:35.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
the university institutionalizes
that in the freedom of research
25:35.166 --> 25:36.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
and teaching.
25:36.466 --> 25:40.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
It's a classical liberal way of
thinking about it.
25:40.000 --> 25:44.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
And the individualism of
classical liberalism is also
25:44.733 --> 25:47.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
operationalized in university
structures as a mandate for
25:47.866 --> 25:49.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
self-development.
25:49.233 --> 25:52.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
You shouldn't be just learning
how to do a job; you should be
25:52.200 --> 25:54.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
learning how to be a better
person.
25:54.800 --> 25:57.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5%
So, there are these
discourses about progress and
25:57.700 --> 26:01.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
development that are part of
modernity, part of classical
26:01.366 --> 26:05.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
liberalism, and part of the
institutional structures of
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universities which feminists
have long been very critical of.
26:11.733 --> 26:18.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
At the same time the discourse
of markets also comes into play.
26:18.066 --> 26:20.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
The discourse of market
fundamentalism, managerial
26:20.566 --> 26:23.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50%
standards, efficient
productivity talks about not
26:23.366 --> 26:26.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
wasting human capital but
developing it.
26:26.733 --> 26:31.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Let's instrumentalize inclusion
because diversity has its own
26:31.000 --> 26:34.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
rewards It increases creativity,
it produces better decision
26:34.533 --> 26:35.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5%
making.
26:35.966 --> 26:41.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
We need true merit and real
competition, not male bias, not
26:41.333 --> 26:46.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
racist standards, but ones that
would be fair and inclusive.
26:46.033 --> 26:51.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
And we can see gender equality
movements picking up these
26:51.466 --> 26:56.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
claims of modernity, for freedom
of research and individual
26:56.433 --> 27:00.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
self-development and democracy
and self-governance, as well as
27:00.733 --> 27:06.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
the claims of the market in
terms of trying to identify and
27:06.633 --> 27:11.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
eradicate bias so that we could
have fair and equal competition,
27:11.433 --> 27:15.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
that we can monitor progress by
collecting statistics on gender
27:15.700 --> 27:20.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
inclusions, and we can apply
managerial strategies of rewards
27:20.866 --> 27:26.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
and sanctions to push decision
makers to make every effort to
27:26.300 --> 27:30.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55%
do affirmative action.
27:30.000 --> 27:34.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
These are principles for
changing universities that are
27:34.966 --> 27:38.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
not separate from the principles
that are actually
27:38.500 --> 27:43.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
institutionalized in the
university.
27:43.300 --> 27:45.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
So, what happens at the
intersection?
27:45.266 --> 27:46.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
That's our big question.
27:46.766 --> 27:50.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
And here I want to introduce you
to Cassandra and Pollyanna.
27:50.800 --> 27:55.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25%
[laughter]
Cassandra is the one who sees
27:55.300 --> 27:59.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
this as one big threat and talks
about governance feminism as
27:59.933 --> 28:03.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
maybe even a reason why we
should say goodbye to feminism
28:03.366 --> 28:05.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30%
for a while.
28:05.366 --> 28:10.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Cassandras, such as Janet Halley
and Nancy Fraser, are so
28:10.166 --> 28:13.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
critical of capitalism and so
unsympathetic to political
28:13.133 --> 28:20.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
liberalism that they think that
there's nothing to be gained by
28:20.533 --> 28:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
engaging constructively with
institutions that are being
28:25.366 --> 28:30.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50%
transformed in these
modernizing/marketizing ways.
28:30.500 --> 28:33.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
Pollyannas, on the other
hand, tend to be the people who
28:33.300 --> 28:37.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
are in the trenches, the gender
equality advocates who are doing
28:37.166 --> 28:39.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
gender mainstreaming work or
involved in international
28:39.866 --> 28:42.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
development enterprises.
28:42.566 --> 28:47.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
Their optimism is part of what
keeps them going.
28:47.333 --> 28:50.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
I'm presenting this a little
bit more starkly than is real
28:50.500 --> 28:54.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
just to make the poles of the
continuum clear.
28:54.866 --> 29:00.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
But the Cassandra view of all
higher education reforms as
29:00.000 --> 29:04.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
being necessarily, and
inherently, neoliberal and
29:04.766 --> 29:08.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
inegalitarian and, thus, never
possible for serving feminist
29:08.933 --> 29:12.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
purposes, it's certainly a bleak
view.
29:12.733 --> 29:17.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
Competition, privatization,
precariousness they emphasize as
29:17.100 --> 29:19.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
being allowed to grow unchecked.
29:19.833 --> 29:22.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
You cannot treat women and men
as if they were the same and
29:22.933 --> 29:29.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
ignore the very different
realities they face without
29:29.000 --> 29:37.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
destroying the particular values
outside of markets that somehow
29:37.900 --> 29:39.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
are also associated with women.
29:39.700 --> 29:44.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
The illusion of equal treatment
makes feminism, as a movement,
29:44.300 --> 29:49.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
more abound and useless and the
equalities are legitimated as if
29:49.100 --> 29:52.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
they were the natural outcomes
of a neutral market, which of
29:52.100 --> 29:53.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
course, they're not.
29:53.866 --> 29:57.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5%
So, Cassandra's pretty bleak.
29:57.200 --> 30:01.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
Pollyanna, on the other
hand, is also a problem in my
30:01.166 --> 30:02.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
view.
30:02.566 --> 30:05.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
Pollyanna's a little quick to
brush off Cassandra's warning.
30:05.800 --> 30:10.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Pollyanna sees the normative
force of gender equality as
30:10.400 --> 30:15.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
really incredibly successful in
transforming the composition of
30:15.566 --> 30:17.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5%
political parties and
professions.
30:17.800 --> 30:21.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
The numbers in terms of
representation are staggeringly
30:21.566 --> 30:25.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
better than they were 50 years
ago.
30:25.433 --> 30:30.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
Pollyanna talks about imposing
new legal standards of equal
30:30.633 --> 30:33.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
citizenship rights and
re-directing investments in
30:33.566 --> 30:36.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
development towards women's
empowerment.
30:36.533 --> 30:39.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
Women seat at the table of
decision makers allows women's
30:39.366 --> 30:43.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
interests to be articulated and
the old boy clubs are being
30:43.533 --> 30:46.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
challenged by merit-based
selection mechanism.
30:46.633 --> 30:50.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
Femocratic change, led by
empowered women, becomes the
30:50.700 --> 30:56.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
insider strategy that feminist
movements can and should rely on
30:56.333 --> 30:59.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
with only an occasional public
outcry needed to help strengthen
30:59.766 --> 31:03.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
the hand of the inside
bargainers.
31:03.000 --> 31:06.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Attention to standpoints and
inclusivity brought into higher
31:06.100 --> 31:09.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
education by Gender and Women's
Studies offers support, then,
31:09.933 --> 31:14.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5%
even to talking about
mainstreaming diversity across
31:14.000 --> 31:16.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
organizations and one of the
ways that this is often talked
31:16.700 --> 31:19.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
about, especially in Europe
where mainstreaming is a big
31:19.233 --> 31:23.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
thing, is to talk about it as
gender plus inequality.
31:23.233 --> 31:25.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
So gender plus this, gender plus
that.
31:25.600 --> 31:28.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
Notice gender stays in the
center place the way we don't do
31:28.000 --> 31:30.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
that in the US.
31:30.633 --> 31:35.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
So we're trying to avoid being
either Cassandra or Pollyanna.
31:35.300 --> 31:37.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
So, we're looking at two
different systems.
31:37.866 --> 31:42.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
We're looking at German system
and the US system of academia
31:42.166 --> 31:45.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
and where are the women?
31:45.033 --> 31:47.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
It's both similar and different.
31:47.033 --> 31:52.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
On the one hand, you see the
trend from the lowest level,
31:52.266 --> 31:56.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
i.e. Bachelor students, to the
top level, grade A which is full
31:56.966 --> 31:58.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
professor.
31:58.500 --> 32:00.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
The trend is down in all those
countries.
32:00.600 --> 32:02.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
The US is at the top.
32:02.166 --> 32:03.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Germany's at the bottom.
32:03.633 --> 32:05.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
The EU average is in the middle.
32:05.500 --> 32:09.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
But the overall trend can be
expressed now as it was in the
32:09.366 --> 32:11.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15%
1970s.
32:11.033 --> 32:14.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
The higher you go, the fewer the
women you find.
32:14.066 --> 32:16.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
So the trend is still there.
32:16.133 --> 32:21.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
But, of course, at the low end,
women are now 50% or above.
32:21.466 --> 32:26.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
And that's a big change from 50
years ago.
32:26.600 --> 32:29.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
It is also the case that the
German and American patterns do
32:29.100 --> 32:33.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
not resemble each other quite so
sharply as the general EU and US
32:33.566 --> 32:35.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
does.
32:35.033 --> 32:36.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
Germany's different.
32:36.366 --> 32:40.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
The big obstacle in Germany is
in the entry into the first
32:40.266 --> 32:45.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
postdoctoral phase, what they
call level C, what we would call
32:45.566 --> 32:49.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
assistant professorships or
tenure track jobs.
32:49.600 --> 32:53.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
There's just a huge barrier
there.
32:53.900 --> 32:58.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
Those postdoctoral positions,
which are not in fact all ten--
32:58.133 --> 33:01.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
in fact there's no such thing as
a tenure track in Germany.
33:01.400 --> 33:05.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
So they're not secure positions
but even to enter them is a
33:05.633 --> 33:09.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
much, much bigger obstacle in
Germany than in the US.
33:09.800 --> 33:14.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
So, what do we know about
the two systems that tell us
33:14.066 --> 33:16.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
something about how they're
different?
33:16.133 --> 33:19.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
Well, the main thing that I
wanna stress here, and I have a
33:19.566 --> 33:22.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
lot of details up there from
another talk, but I just wanna
33:22.533 --> 33:27.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
stress that the stratification
is different in the two systems.
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It's hard to talk about it being
more or less.
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In the United States we have a
lot of interuniversity
33:34.900 --> 33:37.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
stratification.
33:37.100 --> 33:40.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
We think that it makes a big
difference whether you're at UW
33:40.933 --> 33:48.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Madison or UW Stout or Edgewood
or MATC or wherever.
33:48.700 --> 33:51.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
And we think that there's a lot
of stratification even within a
33:51.466 --> 33:54.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
category like research one
universities.
33:54.633 --> 33:59.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
So we are busy thinking about
ourselves and working on the
33:59.933 --> 34:03.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
stratification processes that
organize our universities
34:03.966 --> 34:05.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
relative to each other.
34:05.800 --> 34:11.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
How good are we as UW relative
to the University of Illinois
34:11.166 --> 34:14.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
relative to the University of
California Berkeley?
34:14.633 --> 34:18.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
Ranking systems are really
important.
34:18.233 --> 34:21.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
The German system is quite
different.
34:21.233 --> 34:24.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
The universities are under their
individual state's control.
34:24.900 --> 34:28.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
They are all entirely state
universities.
34:28.100 --> 34:31.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
The very first new privatized
universities were only founded
34:31.600 --> 34:35.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
in the 1990s and are extremely
marginalized.
34:35.500 --> 34:40.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Universities are all treated as
being equal.
34:40.133 --> 34:43.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
You can go to any university
from any state.
34:43.300 --> 34:46.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
In theory, they are all equally
good.
34:46.433 --> 34:49.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
This has been true until very,
very recently.
34:49.966 --> 34:53.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
2005, the German government
introduced a program called the
34:53.733 --> 34:58.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Excellence Initiative which was
finally, in their terms, to
34:58.000 --> 35:00.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
introduce some stratification
between the universities to
35:00.700 --> 35:04.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
identify where the beacons of
excellence were in the overall
35:04.600 --> 35:07.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
German university landscape.
35:07.333 --> 35:08.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5%
We don't have that problem.
35:08.700 --> 35:13.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
On the other hand, as much as we
might say, oh my god, we are
35:13.033 --> 35:16.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
just so stratified, we are not
nearly as stratified as the
35:16.033 --> 35:20.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Germans are within any given
university department.
35:20.033 --> 35:23.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
The German system is one in
which very small number of
35:23.966 --> 35:28.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
professors are individually
responsible for the people who
35:28.033 --> 35:29.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
are under them.
35:29.766 --> 35:34.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
So, assistant professors really
are assistant professors.
35:34.700 --> 35:40.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
They are hired by the professor
to be his or her assistant and
35:40.033 --> 35:44.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
the professors control the lines
for postdoctoral research
35:44.200 --> 35:47.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
positions, for secretaries, for
graduate student.
35:47.966 --> 35:51.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
A graduate student is a paid
job.
35:51.733 --> 35:55.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
You don't pay to be a graduate
student but you have to compete
35:55.433 --> 36:01.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
and find a professor who will
bring you in as the graduate
36:01.766 --> 36:05.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
student for that individual.
36:05.466 --> 36:10.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
Competition here in the
United States is problematic in
36:10.100 --> 36:12.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
a different way than it is in
Germany.
36:12.300 --> 36:17.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
Germany's striving very hard to
gain a position in the global
36:17.866 --> 36:20.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
system that it has lost.
36:20.700 --> 36:26.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
So, I'm going to just point to a
couple things where the way that
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the pond is different in Germany
and the US has something to do
36:31.133 --> 36:34.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
with how feminists are engaging
with academic capitalism in
36:34.600 --> 36:36.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
these two places.
36:36.633 --> 36:39.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
So, let me see here.
36:39.433 --> 36:41.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35%
Wait a minute.
36:41.166 --> 36:43.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5%
Yeah.
36:43.833 --> 36:47.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
What I've got here is just a
comparison between the US and
36:47.066 --> 36:50.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Germany in terms of the kinds of
academic capitalism.
36:50.666 --> 36:55.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
And the differences are
pronounced enough that when we
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start talking about this with
people who haven't really
36:57.700 --> 37:01.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
experienced one system or the
other, they kind of go like,
37:01.600 --> 37:05.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
well, are you talking about it
being neoliberal or academic
37:05.300 --> 37:06.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
capitalist then?
37:06.833 --> 37:09.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
So the US version is big on
austerity.
37:09.700 --> 37:11.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
Tell us about it, right?
37:11.166 --> 37:13.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25%
[laughter]
The German system, at the
37:13.633 --> 37:17.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
moment, the neoliberal German
system, the system that
37:17.833 --> 37:21.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
Cassandra in Germany thinks is
being destroyed, is having huge
37:21.566 --> 37:25.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
infusions of money being put
into the universities to make
37:25.400 --> 37:27.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
them competitive.
37:27.333 --> 37:31.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
They are turning, in the words
of one feminist critic; they are
37:31.766 --> 37:35.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
turning professors into PIs.
37:35.200 --> 37:38.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
This is a bad thing because
they're making lots of grant
37:38.733 --> 37:40.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
money available.
37:40.300 --> 37:44.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
They've tripled or quadrupled
the amount of grant funding in
37:44.300 --> 37:46.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
most disciplines.
37:46.366 --> 37:50.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
They have grant competitions
that treat the sciences and the
37:50.566 --> 37:54.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
humanities and the social
sciences with relatively similar
37:54.900 --> 37:56.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45%
levels of funding.
37:56.866 --> 38:02.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Although again, whether you want
to call it markets or modernity,
38:02.200 --> 38:05.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
science and technology is taking
the lead in the new knowledge
38:05.566 --> 38:08.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
economy and the money is
beginning to shift more towards
38:08.500 --> 38:12.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
the sciences.
38:12.166 --> 38:17.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
There are also, in Germany, the
emphasis is on international
38:17.533 --> 38:19.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5%
mobility.
38:19.700 --> 38:24.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
The big horrible thing that has
happened to German universities
38:24.200 --> 38:28.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
in the eyes of German feminist
professors is that you now have
38:28.366 --> 38:31.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70%
to count credits in courses.
38:31.633 --> 38:34.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
Courses need to be measurable in
terms of credits.
38:34.800 --> 38:38.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
You need to know how many credit
hours you are teaching.
38:38.233 --> 38:41.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
And credits need to be
transferable between
38:41.333 --> 38:45.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
universities outside of Germany
as well as within.
38:45.666 --> 38:47.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:77.5%
So, a lot of credit accounting.
38:47.900 --> 38:53.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
And your status as a university
rises if you are able to attract
38:53.366 --> 38:55.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
international students.
38:55.066 --> 38:58.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
So, international, not
intranational, rankings are
38:58.733 --> 39:00.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
important.
39:00.366 --> 39:03.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
And how do you attract
international students if you
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are teaching in German?
39:05.533 --> 39:08.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
So professors are supposed to
offer more and more of their
39:08.600 --> 39:15.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
courses in English and retool
their courses to follow a more
39:15.766 --> 39:22.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
American-style credit hour model
and be taught in English.
39:22.800 --> 39:26.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
Managerialism in Germany means
mostly a shift from state
39:26.100 --> 39:27.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5%
ministries.
39:27.566 --> 39:30.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
In the past if you wanted to
hire, say, a professor of
39:30.833 --> 39:37.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
sociology, the various
professors in the area of
39:37.333 --> 39:42.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
sociology, and there might only
be six or seven of them because
39:42.133 --> 39:47.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
they're large middle bow lower
level of support, the professors
39:47.700 --> 39:50.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
would get together and they'd
come up with a ranked list of
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three and they'd submit them to
the Ministry of Higher Education
39:53.466 --> 40:00.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
and the minister would pick the
professor from the short list.
40:00.166 --> 40:03.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
So, managerialism and the
growing role of the
40:03.666 --> 40:07.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
administration is now passing
the buck from the ministry to
40:07.800 --> 40:12.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
the university and empowering
deans at the university level to
40:12.566 --> 40:17.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5%
make decisions like that.
40:17.566 --> 40:23.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
In the US, managerialism is
more about shifting from
40:23.000 --> 40:26.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50%
professors to deans.
40:26.633 --> 40:29.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
So far the self-governance of
professors in Germany has hardly
40:29.766 --> 40:35.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
been touched in ways that, here,
we've been seeing, I'm afraid,
40:35.433 --> 40:37.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5%
altogether too often.
40:37.866 --> 40:40.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
So let's just look, at the
moment, at what that means for
40:40.700 --> 40:43.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40%
gender politics.
40:43.933 --> 40:48.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5%
It means that feminists
contesting representation in the
40:48.466 --> 40:51.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
United States are worried about
the effects of austerity and
40:51.400 --> 40:55.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
diversity; therefore, looking at
students, looking at access to
40:55.166 --> 40:59.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
the tenure track and adjuncts,
there is no tenure track in
40:59.500 --> 41:00.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20%
Germany.
41:00.866 --> 41:03.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
So everybody, in that sense, is
an adjunct.
41:03.000 --> 41:05.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
They are looking at the United
States as a possible model for
41:05.666 --> 41:08.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
introducing a tenure track so
that people could stay at the
41:08.233 --> 41:11.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
same university and become a
professor, which is a totally
41:11.100 --> 41:14.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
radical idea there.
41:14.033 --> 41:18.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
Knowledge transfer: we're
worrying about the ways in which
41:18.600 --> 41:22.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
the definition of what
universities do can be defended
41:22.700 --> 41:24.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
from defunding.
41:24.633 --> 41:28.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60%
The recent proposal, for
example, to cut National Science
41:28.500 --> 41:32.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
Foundation funding for the
social sciences in half.
41:32.000 --> 41:34.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
But, at the same time, we've
also seen a lot of
41:34.800 --> 41:38.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
institutionalization of Gender
and Women's Studies, strong
41:38.366 --> 41:40.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80%
programs with a lot of outreach.
41:40.633 --> 41:46.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
And, as a member of the Gender
and Women's Studies program,
41:46.566 --> 41:49.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
I can tell you that you start
debating: what are we going to
41:49.666 --> 41:52.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
do as a Gender and Women's
Studies program when there are
41:52.666 --> 41:55.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
also all of these people who are
doing gender studies off in
41:55.133 --> 41:59.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
their departments who don't
even, like, check in with us?
41:59.500 --> 42:02.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
That's a really tough problem to
have.
42:02.333 --> 42:04.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
It's not a problem the Germans
have.
42:04.966 --> 42:07.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55%
Those small numbers of
professors are still very, very,
42:07.400 --> 42:09.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25%
very male.
42:09.000 --> 42:12.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35%
Organizational
transformation... we're also
42:12.633 --> 42:17.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
talking about diversity and how
to do diversity politics.
42:17.266 --> 42:19.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
What about the Germans?
42:19.033 --> 42:21.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Well, they have so few women
professors.
42:21.800 --> 42:26.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
They established, again, just
recently in 2007, a special
42:26.166 --> 42:30.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
program in which the ministries
gave money to universities if
42:30.300 --> 42:31.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60%
they would hire a woman.
42:31.766 --> 42:34.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:25%
[laughter]
And they made it competitive
42:34.233 --> 42:37.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
in the sense of first come,
first served.
42:37.300 --> 42:39.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
So the further you were along in
a search in which you'd
42:39.900 --> 42:43.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
identified a potentially hirable
woman the more likely you were
42:43.466 --> 42:47.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
to get matching funds to go hire
that person.
42:47.233 --> 42:49.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75%
Providing positive incentives.
42:49.466 --> 42:52.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
Challenge grants of various
kinds.
42:52.500 --> 42:55.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5%
Knowledge transfer.
42:55.100 --> 43:00.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
Feminists are networking like
mad among the EU countries to
43:00.800 --> 43:06.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
put pressure on the universities
in terms of competition.
43:06.366 --> 43:09.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5%
So that little graph that I
showed you of: here's Germany
43:09.333 --> 43:12.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
and look how bad it is compared
to the US and EU, the German
43:12.400 --> 43:16.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
feminists made that graph, they
have a point to make with it.
43:16.300 --> 43:20.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
They want to network around the
ideas of how can we transform
43:20.800 --> 43:22.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5%
the university?
43:22.333 --> 43:24.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80%
How do you go about transforming
the university?
43:24.733 --> 43:28.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5%
Well, law mandates gender
mainstreaming, which is to say
43:28.166 --> 43:33.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
active efforts to consider
gender in the policy structures
43:33.000 --> 43:38.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65%
of all state agencies, and
universities are state agencies.
43:38.300 --> 43:43.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
So every university has to have
a gender equality plan and they
43:43.300 --> 43:46.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
have now been asked to make it
not just a gender equality plan
43:46.166 --> 43:49.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5%
but a gender plus plan.
43:49.233 --> 43:51.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5%
A diversity plan.
43:51.700 --> 43:55.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5%
Some gender equality officers
are having fits.
43:55.600 --> 43:58.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
You're not paying attention to
gender anymore.
43:58.266 --> 44:00.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
Now we're just talking about
diversity, whatever the heck
44:00.533 --> 44:03.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5%
diversity is.
44:03.166 --> 44:06.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5%
We wanna focus on gender not on
diversity.
44:06.300 --> 44:10.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
There's a positive appeal to
international standards This
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Excellence Initiative, all this
money to create beacons of
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excellence, they did the first
round.
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In order to decide which
universities were beacons of
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excellence they, of course, had
international reviewers look at
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the proposals.
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Where do you think you get high
status international reviewers?
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In the US and the UK.
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What do the international
reviewers from the US and the UK
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say when they see these German
proposals?
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You don't have enough women.
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Where are the women?
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Aren't there any women in your
discipline?
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So, as a consequence of the
first round review the president
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of the Association of German
Universities wrote a letter
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saying we are not meeting
international standards of
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gender inclusivity.
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[laughter]
In the next round please take
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seriously the gender
mainstreaming plan and the law
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that says gender inclusion is
mandated as a responsibility of
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you as a state agency.
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We will be looking.
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Well, the percentage of women,
what do you think?
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It jumped up on the second
round.
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[laughter]
It could be done.
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Anyway, as I said, this is in an
early stage.
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One of the things that we're
doing at the moment is we're
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looking around demands for
inclusion and how they're framed
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in terms of modernity and market
arguments.
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And we're using some of the
very, very many, I don't expect
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you to read them here, it's just
an indication of the fact that
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there are like 20 reports that
have been issued internationally
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and nationally about the really
problematic situation of women
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in the sciences in
economically-developed global
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knowledge economies and what are
we going to do about it?
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So we're doing a discourse
analysis of how these kinds of
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claims are being made.
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And then the other piece of
the project that I'm doing is
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looking Title IX and the 40 plus
years of evolution of Title IX
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as a program that started out
making claims, not only about
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representation, but about the
content of teaching that got
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narrowed in a process of
political contestation into
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talking as if we thought that
Title IX was only about sports,
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but actually has a lot of
interesting gender mainstreaming
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components to it.
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So I'm working on a paper that
calls it: "a rose by any other
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name".
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That is to say it's gender
mainstreaming in the sense of an
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affirmative action program in
the way that Europeans think
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about it.
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In other words, not so much
comparing lists and numbers, per
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se, but thinking about the
institutional transformations
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that would need to be included.
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So Title IX is being used to
confront sexual harassment.
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Title IX is being used to
confront campus sexual assault.
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Title IX is being used to
confront the provision of
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services for pregnant and
parenting students.
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So it's actually looking at
institutional transformation in
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the ways that the Europeans
think they invented with gender
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mainstreaming.
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So, that's where the project is.
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I thank you for listening.
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[applause]