1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,333 >>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE 2 00:00:02,333 --> 00:00:05,733 CONTRARY, IS THERE GENDER BIAS 3 00:00:05,733 --> 00:00:07,600 IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,133 PRIMARY? 5 00:00:08,133 --> 00:00:10,400 THEN, MARRIED VERSUS UNMARRIED 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,133 MOMS AND HOUSEWORK. 7 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:14,000 A SURPRISING RESULT OF A NEW 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,333 SURVEY. 9 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:16,233 BEHIND THE HEADLINES, SAFE 10 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:18,600 TRAVELS AS WOMEN TRAVEL SOLO 11 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,333 INTERNATIONALLY IN RECORD 12 00:00:20,333 --> 00:00:22,200 NUMBERS, WE TELL YOU WHAT YOU 13 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:43,233 NEED TO KNOW ABOUT STAYING SAFE. 14 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:48,866 HELLO AND WELCOME TO TO THE 15 00:00:48,866 --> 00:00:49,233 CONTRARY. 16 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:52,766 UP FIRST, WOMEN RUNNING FOR 17 00:00:52,766 --> 00:00:53,133 PRESIDENT. 18 00:00:53,133 --> 00:00:55,533 WITH A DIVERSE FIELD OF 21 19 00:00:55,533 --> 00:00:56,900 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL 20 00:00:56,900 --> 00:01:00,166 CANDIDATES, A PINK WAVE IN 2018, 21 00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:01,800 AND AN UNDERSTANDING THAT 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,300 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN ARE THE 23 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:05,733 MOST LOYAL VOTERS IN THE PARTY. 24 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:08,200 WHY ARE WHITE MEN LEADING THE 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,000 PACK? 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,900 A MORNING CONSULT POLL THIS WEEK 27 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:13,100 SHOWS JOE BIDEN IN THE LEAD WITH 28 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:16,033 40% FOLLOWED BY BERNIE SANDERS 29 00:01:16,033 --> 00:01:19,300 AT 19%, THEN ELIZABETH WARREN 30 00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:21,400 AND KAMALA HARRIS IN THE SINGLE 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,200 DIGIT SES. 32 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,133 THESE NUMBERS HAVE STAYED 33 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:26,066 CONSISTENT AMONG DIFFERENT 34 00:01:26,066 --> 00:01:26,466 POLLS. 35 00:01:26,466 --> 00:01:28,933 ALSO CONSISTENT IS POLLING DATA 36 00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:31,000 SUGGESTING DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,400 VOTERS SUPPORT FEMALE CANDIDATES 38 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,700 BUT THEY'RE SKEPTICAL THAT A 39 00:01:34,700 --> 00:01:36,866 WOMAN CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. 40 00:01:36,866 --> 00:01:38,800 POLITICAL ANALYSTS SAY IT'S NOT 41 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,033 SURPRISING BECAUSE VOTERS HOLD 42 00:01:41,033 --> 00:01:43,000 FEMALE POLITICIANS TO A HIGHER 43 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 STANDARD THAN MEN AND THEY HAVE 44 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,866 TO WORK HARDER, DEFEND POLICIES 45 00:01:48,866 --> 00:01:51,566 MORE, AND BE MORE LIKABLE. 46 00:01:51,566 --> 00:01:53,900 >> SO LATIFA LYLES, WHY ARE 47 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,600 WOMEN NOT BREAKING THROUGH? 48 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,900 >> I WOULD SAY THEY'RE WORKING 49 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:57,866 THROUGH. 50 00:01:57,866 --> 00:01:59,400 WE'RE WORKING IN A SYSTEM THAT 51 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:05,033 SIGNIFICANTLY FAVORS WHITE MEN 52 00:02:05,033 --> 00:02:06,300 CONSISTENTLY. 53 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:07,333 >> WOMEN ARE BREAKING THROUGH IN 54 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:07,766 THIS MOMENT. 55 00:02:07,766 --> 00:02:09,300 WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE AT OUR 56 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:11,133 FINGERTIPS THAN WE USED TO. 57 00:02:11,133 --> 00:02:12,433 I THINK WOMEN ARE CONTINUING TO 58 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:13,800 PUSH BACK AND WE'LL SEE THE 59 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,166 POSITIVE EFFECT THAT IS TO COME. 60 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:18,433 >> I JUST HOPE WE CAN CHANGE 61 00:02:18,433 --> 00:02:20,166 BECAUSE IT IS WORRY SOME AND THE 62 00:02:20,166 --> 00:02:21,566 MOST WORRISOME PART IS POLLS 63 00:02:21,566 --> 00:02:27,100 SHOW THAT MEN ARE AHEAD. 64 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:28,333 >> IT CAN BE WOMEN AND VOTERS 65 00:02:28,333 --> 00:02:30,000 STILL SUPPORT THE CANDIDATES NOT 66 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,166 BASTED ON GENDER BUT THE ISSUES 67 00:02:32,166 --> 00:02:33,766 AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY SOME WOMEN 68 00:02:33,766 --> 00:02:36,133 STRUGGLE TO BREAK THROUGH. 69 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:39,700 >> OKAY. BUT CAN YOU -- ON WHAT 70 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:41,800 ISSUE WOULD YOU PREFER AS A 71 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,133 VOTER JOE BIDEN TO KAMALA 72 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:46,766 HARRIS? 73 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:47,033 NO. 74 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,966 AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME MOST 75 00:02:48,966 --> 00:02:51,066 DON'T KNOW SO IT'S MORE NAME 76 00:02:51,066 --> 00:02:53,400 RECOGNITION AND CULTURAL BIASES. 77 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,333 >> ABSOLUTELY. 78 00:02:54,333 --> 00:02:55,766 >> BUT WHY DIDN'T THE ME TOO 79 00:02:55,766 --> 00:02:57,733 MOVEMENT CHANGE THIS ALREADY? 80 00:02:57,733 --> 00:02:59,700 WHY DIDN'T SECOND WAVE FEMINISM 81 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:00,433 CHANGE IT? 82 00:03:00,433 --> 00:03:02,133 THIS IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM. 83 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:03,966 >> AND BONNIE, IT'S WORSE BY THE 84 00:03:03,966 --> 00:03:06,700 FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS 85 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:07,466 SO DECEMBER PAT TO DEFEAT -- 86 00:03:07,466 --> 00:03:08,166 DESPERATE TO DEFEAT TRUMP 87 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:10,766 BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WHOEVER IS 88 00:03:10,766 --> 00:03:13,700 GOING TO BE TRUMP AND PEOPLE 89 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,366 TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS NOT THE 90 00:03:15,366 --> 00:03:19,900 MOMENT TO TAKE A RISK. 91 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:20,633 AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. 92 00:03:20,633 --> 00:03:23,700 I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT MYSELF. 93 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:24,933 I LOVE ELIZABETH WARREN. 94 00:03:24,933 --> 00:03:28,566 I THINK SHE'S THE RIGHT CANED 95 00:03:28,566 --> 00:03:28,933 CANDIDATE. 96 00:03:28,933 --> 00:03:30,200 BUT I DON'T THINK SHE'S 97 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,566 ELECTABLE. 98 00:03:30,566 --> 00:03:33,100 IS IT TRUE OR NOT? 99 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:35,100 >> AND BUSH, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS 100 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,166 SEEN TO BE BUSH THE SECOND, WAS 101 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:39,733 SEEN TO BE, YOU KNOW, LIKABLE. 102 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:42,233 I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT. 103 00:03:42,233 --> 00:03:44,866 BUT LIKABILITY IS A PROBLEM AND 104 00:03:44,866 --> 00:03:46,500 DO YOU THINK KAMALA HARRIS, IS 105 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:48,166 SHE LIKABLE? 106 00:03:48,166 --> 00:03:53,800 IS ELIZABETH WARREN OR OTHERS? 107 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,633 >> IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF 108 00:03:55,633 --> 00:03:57,300 LENSES WE SHARE WHEN WE LOOK AT 109 00:03:57,300 --> 00:03:59,033 FEMALES VERSUS THE MALES BECAUSE 110 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:00,800 THAT NOTION OF LIKABILITY GOES 111 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 BACK TO THE BUSINESS WORLD OF 112 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,333 MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. 113 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:05,766 WHEN YOU CAN SIT AND HAVE A BEER 114 00:04:05,766 --> 00:04:06,466 WITH SOMEONE. 115 00:04:06,466 --> 00:04:07,666 DO YOU WANT TO SIT AND HAVE A 116 00:04:07,666 --> 00:04:08,633 BEER WITH YOUR PRESIDENT? 117 00:04:08,633 --> 00:04:10,800 IS THIS HILLARY CLINTON'S FAULT? 118 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,500 >> OH, I DON'T WANT TO FAULT 119 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:13,800 THAT. 120 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,700 >> MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY SHE 121 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:17,400 WASN'T LIKABLE. 122 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,200 SHE'S BRILLIANT. 123 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,933 SHE'S A LOT OF THINGS BUT SHE'S 124 00:04:19,933 --> 00:04:22,133 NOT WARM AND FUZZY. 125 00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:23,133 >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE A TOUGH TIME 126 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:24,066 WITH THAT BECAUSE I NEVER 127 00:04:24,066 --> 00:04:25,200 SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON 128 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,266 POLITICALLY OR FINANCIALLY BUT 129 00:04:27,266 --> 00:04:29,033 SHE WAS THE EPITOME OF WHAT MY 130 00:04:29,033 --> 00:04:30,633 MOTHER RAISED ME TO BE WHICH WAS 131 00:04:30,633 --> 00:04:32,466 STRONG AND ACCOMPLISHED AND PUT 132 00:04:32,466 --> 00:04:33,500 YOURSELF OUT THERE AND KEEP 133 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:34,900 PRESSING ON. 134 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,466 BUT, YEAH, THERE WAS THAT 135 00:04:36,466 --> 00:04:37,866 ELEMENT OF DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU 136 00:04:37,866 --> 00:04:40,900 COULD SIT DOWN WITH HILLARY? 137 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,300 NO SHE HAD A SET OF ASPIRATIONS 138 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:46,033 THAT WERE POLITICAL IN NATURE 139 00:04:46,033 --> 00:04:47,300 BUT TO FAULT HER FOR THAT I 140 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,333 THINK IS GOING TOO FAR. 141 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:50,533 >> I WOULD JUST ADD THE MEDIA 142 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:51,700 PLAYS A ROLE HERE. 143 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:58,133 I MEAN, THE SPREADS OF BETO 144 00:04:58,133 --> 00:05:00,266 O'ROURKE TRYING TO BOOST HIS 145 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:00,666 LIKABILITY. 146 00:05:00,666 --> 00:05:02,433 I THINK IT MAKES IT HARD WHEN 147 00:05:02,433 --> 00:05:05,100 YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS BUSHING BETO 148 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:06,500 ONE DAY AND THEN BERNIE THE NEXT 149 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:08,500 AND NOT GIVING ATTENTION TO 150 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:09,433 WOMEN WHO I WILL TOTALLY 151 00:05:09,433 --> 00:05:11,300 DISAGREE WITH THE POLICIES FROM 152 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,333 ELIZABETH WARREN BUT SHE'S 153 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,566 PUTTING POLICIES OUT THERE. 154 00:05:15,566 --> 00:05:17,300 >> SHE'S BEEN WORKING VERY HARD 155 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:19,433 AND ARGUABLY THE LONGEST ON THE 156 00:05:19,433 --> 00:05:22,233 ROAD DOING THE TRADITIONAL GRASS 157 00:05:22,233 --> 00:05:24,300 ROOTS WORK TO GET ELECTED AND AT 158 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:25,700 THIS POINT -- I WOULD ALSO SAY 159 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:26,666 PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A 160 00:05:26,666 --> 00:05:27,433 BEER WITH HER. 161 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:29,200 I THINK SHE'D BE INTERESTING TO 162 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,733 HAVE A BEER WITH. 163 00:05:29,733 --> 00:05:32,733 >> DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO THOUGH? 164 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:33,333 >> SHE DID THAT VIDEO. 165 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,466 [LAUGHTER] 166 00:05:34,466 --> 00:05:35,266 >> YOU DIDN'T WANT TO COME IN 167 00:05:35,266 --> 00:05:37,000 FOR THAT BEER. 168 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,166 >> BUT I THINK THAT THE MOMENT 169 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:39,833 THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS SO 170 00:05:39,833 --> 00:05:42,300 TELLING ABOUT THE INSECURITY TO 171 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,566 HAVE SO MANY CANDIDATES FROM SO 172 00:05:44,566 --> 00:05:46,300 MANY DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS SHOWING 173 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:48,633 UP WITH CREDENTIALS, WITH HARD 174 00:05:48,633 --> 00:05:49,966 WORK, ROLLED UP SLEEVES. 175 00:05:49,966 --> 00:05:51,600 WE'RE IN A BUOYANT OF CRISIS OF 176 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,333 CONFIDENCE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE 177 00:05:53,333 --> 00:05:56,166 WE'RE JUST -- WE ARE OVERFLOWING 178 00:05:56,166 --> 00:05:58,066 WITH FOLKS WHO VICE PRESIDENT A 179 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:03,000 GOOD MESSAGE AND COULD RUN FOR 180 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,466 OFFICE AND BEAT TRUMP BUT I 181 00:06:05,466 --> 00:06:10,300 THINK THERE'S SO MUCH 182 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:10,700 INSECURITY. 183 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:11,466 >> AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 184 00:06:11,466 --> 00:06:12,400 HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 185 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,833 I'M GLAD TO SEE MORE ARTICLES 186 00:06:13,833 --> 00:06:14,200 ABOUT IT. 187 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,900 I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOW 188 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,833 REFLECTING THEMSELVES, AM I 189 00:06:17,833 --> 00:06:18,300 DOING THIS? 190 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:19,400 AM I PLAYING THIS GAME? 191 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,266 AND THIS IS NOT OVER. 192 00:06:20,266 --> 00:06:23,733 WE'RE JUST STARTING. 193 00:06:23,733 --> 00:06:24,100 WHO KNOWS. 194 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:25,966 >> WHAT I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT AS 195 00:06:25,966 --> 00:06:27,400 CRITICAL IS WHO IS GOING TO BE 196 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,933 THE BEST DEBATER? 197 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:31,566 DOES EVERYBODY THINK JOE BIDEN 198 00:06:31,566 --> 00:06:33,800 IS GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN 199 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,166 A DEBATE AND KAMALA HARRIS 200 00:06:37,166 --> 00:06:37,533 COULDN'T? 201 00:06:37,533 --> 00:06:38,633 >> I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT 202 00:06:38,633 --> 00:06:40,733 QUESTION BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE 203 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:42,166 THESE ARTICLES ON SUCH A BIG 204 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:43,233 FIELD BECAUSE PUTTING MY 205 00:06:43,233 --> 00:06:46,333 STRATEGIST HAT ON FOR A MOMENT I 206 00:06:46,333 --> 00:06:47,400 WANT TO SEE WHO CAN TAKE THE 207 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,000 PRESIDENT ON. 208 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,700 LIKE, THIS IS NOT A MOMENT FOR 209 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:52,066 EVERYBODY RUN TO THE POOL LIKE 210 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:53,533 SUMMER CAMP JUST STARTED. 211 00:06:53,533 --> 00:06:54,966 THIS IS BEAT THE GUY IF YOU 212 00:06:54,966 --> 00:06:56,000 DON'T LIKE HIM THAT MUCH. 213 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,500 SO BE SMART ABOUT IT. 214 00:06:57,500 --> 00:06:58,933 ONE OLD WHITE GUY VERSUS ANOTHER 215 00:06:58,933 --> 00:07:00,400 OLD WHITE GUY PRESENTS THE BEST 216 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,433 CHALLENGE BECAUSE IT REMOVES 217 00:07:02,433 --> 00:07:03,066 THOSE LAYERS. 218 00:07:03,066 --> 00:07:05,500 I KNOW IT'S NOT POLITICALLY THE 219 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:06,933 SAVVIEST AND NICEST TO SAY BUT 220 00:07:06,933 --> 00:07:07,800 IT'S TRUE. 221 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,433 BIDEN HAS THAT TELLS YOU LIKE IT 222 00:07:10,433 --> 00:07:11,866 IS THING AND TRUMP -- 223 00:07:11,866 --> 00:07:13,566 >> MANY HAVE THAT. 224 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:14,766 >> I REMEMBER INTERVIEWING A 225 00:07:14,766 --> 00:07:17,200 DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST WHEN OBAMA 226 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,066 WAS RUNNING AND THEY WERE 227 00:07:18,066 --> 00:07:21,700 TALKING ABOUT HIS VEEP AND 228 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:25,333 BECAUSE HE'S OF COLOR I WAS TOLD 229 00:07:25,333 --> 00:07:28,900 SOMETHING LIKE IT'S GOT TO BE 230 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:30,033 WHITE MILK. 231 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:30,400 YOU KNOW. 232 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,800 IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING VERY 233 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,233 WHITE BREAD. 234 00:07:33,233 --> 00:07:34,800 SOMETHING NOT OFFENSIVE TO 235 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,933 ANYBODY BECAUSE RUNNING A 236 00:07:36,933 --> 00:07:39,200 PRESIDENT OF COLOR IS GOING TO 237 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,900 OFFEND SOME PEOPLE AND A LOT OF 238 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:43,100 PEOPLE SAY WE NOW HAVE TRUMP 239 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:45,233 BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS GOT OBAMA 240 00:07:45,233 --> 00:07:45,600 ELECTED. 241 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,300 >> FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THE 242 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:48,133 QUESTION OF DEBATES IS -- I 243 00:07:48,133 --> 00:07:50,233 DON'T REMEMBER TRUMP WINNING A 244 00:07:50,233 --> 00:07:50,566 DEBATE. 245 00:07:50,566 --> 00:07:50,900 DO YOU? 246 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:52,266 I DON'T FEEL LIKE IN THE LAST 247 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,100 ELECTION CYCLE HE CAME TOGETHER 248 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:55,333 VERY WELL AT ALL IN THE DEBATES 249 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:56,500 AND NOW WE'RE LIKE WHO CAN BEAT 250 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:57,166 HIM ON THE ISSUES. 251 00:07:57,166 --> 00:07:58,666 HE DOESN'T GO TO TASK ON ISSUES. 252 00:07:58,666 --> 00:08:00,300 THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 253 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:02,733 THIS IS ABOUT HOW MESSAGING 254 00:08:02,733 --> 00:08:03,033 WORKS. 255 00:08:03,033 --> 00:08:05,200 IT'S ABOUT GETTING TO HEARTS AND 256 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:05,500 MINDS. 257 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:07,033 AND YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE JUST AS 258 00:08:07,033 --> 00:08:09,566 SAVVY AS THE NEXT PERSON. 259 00:08:09,566 --> 00:08:11,200 >> THE LAST DEBATE PARTICULARLY 260 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,300 HE WAS FOLLOWING HER AROUND AND 261 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:13,633 YELLING. 262 00:08:13,633 --> 00:08:15,666 HOW DOES A WOMAN DEAL -- WOULD 263 00:08:15,666 --> 00:08:17,500 YOU DEAL EFFECTIVELY -- WOULD 264 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:18,666 YOU TURN AROUND AND START 265 00:08:18,666 --> 00:08:20,666 FOLLOWING HIM AND SCREAMING AT 266 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:20,933 HIM? 267 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:21,200 IS. 268 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:21,600 >> YEAH. 269 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,966 THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THIS 270 00:08:22,966 --> 00:08:26,500 IS ABOUT POTENTIALITY AND ABOUT 271 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:28,100 GIVING PEOPLE A CHANCE. 272 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:29,500 AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE BIAS 273 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:31,033 THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THE PEOPLE 274 00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:32,300 NOT RECOGNIZING THE FULL 275 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:33,433 POTENTIAL OF THE FEMALE 276 00:08:33,433 --> 00:08:35,533 CANDIDATE IS THEY MAY BE THE 277 00:08:35,533 --> 00:08:37,966 BEST CANDIDATE TO GO AFTER 278 00:08:37,966 --> 00:08:38,266 TRUMP. 279 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:40,966 IF WE DO NOT LOOK AT IT THROUGH 280 00:08:40,966 --> 00:08:42,066 THE BIAS OF HILLARY CLINTON LOST 281 00:08:42,066 --> 00:08:43,200 BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN OR A 282 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,100 WOMAN CANNOT REALLY PUT TOGETHER 283 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:47,900 A STRONG FIELD OPERATION. 284 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:49,333 >> IT IS ABOUT THE ISSUES THIS 285 00:08:49,333 --> 00:08:49,633 TIME. 286 00:08:49,633 --> 00:08:51,200 AND I THINK YOU CAN SPEAK TO 287 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:51,900 THAT BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS 288 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:52,233 STRONG. 289 00:08:52,233 --> 00:08:53,200 >> EXACTLY. 290 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,833 SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 291 00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:56,166 PRESIDENT TRUMP COMING TO THE 292 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:56,966 TABLE WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF 293 00:08:56,966 --> 00:08:57,833 BEING PRESIDENT. 294 00:08:57,833 --> 00:08:59,600 THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A 295 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,533 STELLAR ECONOMY AND DATA TO 296 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:03,133 PROVE THAT IT WAS NOT JUST OBAMA 297 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:04,933 ERA POLICIES. 298 00:09:04,933 --> 00:09:09,366 TALKING ABOUT THE DEBATE, AT THE 299 00:09:09,366 --> 00:09:10,500 TIME TRUMP DIDN'T GET INTO 300 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:11,600 ISSUES BUT IT WAS HOW HE WAS 301 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,900 ABLE TO COMMUNICATE 302 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:14,766 SIMPLISTICALLY TO AMERICAN 303 00:09:14,766 --> 00:09:16,400 PEOPLE WHO FELT LIKE EVERYONE 304 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,500 TALKED OVER THEM AND TALKED 305 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:18,766 ABOVE THEIR HEADS. 306 00:09:18,766 --> 00:09:20,100 I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF 307 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,733 THE CANDIDATES ON THE LEFT YOU 308 00:09:21,733 --> 00:09:22,933 HAVE PROFESSORS, LAWYERS, THEY 309 00:09:22,933 --> 00:09:23,633 WILL BE GUMPRECHTTUALS AND 310 00:09:23,633 --> 00:09:26,166 THAT'S GREAT BUT THEN YOU HAVE A 311 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:27,500 LOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT 312 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:28,800 SOMETHING SIMPLE AND BOILED DOWN 313 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,866 AND IF THEY CAN'T MATCH THAT 314 00:09:30,866 --> 00:09:33,633 SIMPLICITY AND THE FIRMNESS OF 315 00:09:33,633 --> 00:09:35,033 THE PRESIDENT THEY'RE NOT GOING 316 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:37,566 TO BE THE BEST CANDIDATE AND I 317 00:09:37,566 --> 00:09:38,633 THINK THE DIMENSIONS ARE MORE 318 00:09:38,633 --> 00:09:40,266 THAN JUST -- 319 00:09:40,266 --> 00:09:41,133 >> WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 320 00:09:41,133 --> 00:09:41,433 SORRY. 321 00:09:41,433 --> 00:09:42,233 WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. 322 00:09:42,233 --> 00:09:46,266 LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT 323 00:09:46,266 --> 00:09:47,100 THIS ISSUE. 324 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,533 FROM WOMEN IN PRESIDENTIAL 325 00:09:48,533 --> 00:09:51,966 POLITICS TO MOMS AT HOME. 326 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:54,000 >> IF YOU ASSUME MARRIED MOMS DO 327 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,266 LESS HOUSEWORK THAN SINGLE MOMS 328 00:09:56,266 --> 00:09:57,333 BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PARTNER 329 00:09:57,333 --> 00:09:59,433 AROUND TO HELP OUT, YOU WOULD BE 330 00:09:59,433 --> 00:09:59,733 WRONG. 331 00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:01,366 ACCORDING TO A SURVEY BY THE 332 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:03,466 UNIVERSITIES OF MARYLAND, TEXAS, 333 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:05,333 AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHEN IT 334 00:10:05,333 --> 00:10:07,400 COMES TO DOMESTIC WORK, MARRIED 335 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,533 MOMS DO MORE. 336 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:09,800 LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT. 337 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,166 MARRIED AND SINGLE MOMS SPEND 338 00:10:12,166 --> 00:10:14,066 EQUAL AMOUNTS OF TIME CARING FOR 339 00:10:14,066 --> 00:10:14,566 CHILDREN. 340 00:10:14,566 --> 00:10:16,400 THE SURVEY IS REFERRING TO OTHER 341 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,300 THINGS SUCH AS COOKING, LAUNDRY, 342 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:20,366 AND HOUSE CLEANING AND ONLY IN 343 00:10:20,366 --> 00:10:23,166 HETERO SEXUAL MARRIAGES. 344 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:23,433 WHY? 345 00:10:23,433 --> 00:10:25,166 RESEARCHERS SAY MOTHERS MARRIED 346 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:27,166 TO MEN TRY HARDER TO MEET OLD 347 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:29,500 FASHIONED GENDER EXPECTATIONS OF 348 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,200 PROVIDING HOME COOKED MALES, 349 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,700 CLEAN HOMES, AND CLEAN CLOTHES. 350 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:35,300 THE RESEARCHERS EVEN ADJUSTED 351 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,100 THEIR FINDINGS FOR DIFFERENCES 352 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,400 IN EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, RACE, 353 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,266 AND NUMBER OF CHILDREN, OR OTHER 354 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:43,833 EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS AT HOME. 355 00:10:43,833 --> 00:10:45,866 THEY REPORT MARRIED WOMEN SPEND 356 00:10:45,866 --> 00:10:47,700 AN AVERAGE OF JUST FEWER THAN 357 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,833 THREE HOURS DAILY ON HOUSEWORK 358 00:10:49,833 --> 00:10:51,600 COMPARED TO JUST LESS THAN TWO 359 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,666 AND A HALF HOURS FOR UNMARRIED 360 00:10:53,666 --> 00:10:53,966 WOMEN. 361 00:10:53,966 --> 00:10:56,066 A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 32 MINUTES 362 00:10:56,066 --> 00:10:57,133 EACH DAY. 363 00:10:57,133 --> 00:10:58,833 RESEARCHERS CALL MARRIAGE A 364 00:10:58,833 --> 00:11:00,566 GENDERED INSTITUTION. 365 00:11:00,566 --> 00:11:02,433 WHAT DO MARRIED MOMS GIVE UP? 366 00:11:02,433 --> 00:11:05,733 LEISURE TIME AND SLEEP. 367 00:11:05,733 --> 00:11:07,166 >> I PRESUME YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT 368 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:11,633 BEING A NEW MOM. 369 00:11:11,633 --> 00:11:13,933 DO YOU AGREE THAT MARRIED MOMS 370 00:11:13,933 --> 00:11:16,766 IN HETERO SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS 371 00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:18,333 AND VERY FORWARD ABOUT THIS IN 372 00:11:18,333 --> 00:11:20,200 THE SURVEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO 373 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,033 WANT TO BE THE PERFECT MOM 374 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:24,933 WHEREAS SINGLE MOMS CAN DO IT 375 00:11:24,933 --> 00:11:28,000 THEIR OWN WAY BECAUSE NOBODY IS 376 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,500 ELSE IS AROUND? 377 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,166 >> I DISAGREE WITH THAT. 378 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:31,466 I THINK MOMS WANT TO BE THE BEST 379 00:11:31,466 --> 00:11:32,400 MOMS MEANING MAKING SURE THE 380 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,033 KIDS ARE READY FOR SCHOOL, TEETH 381 00:11:34,033 --> 00:11:36,866 BRUSHED, BELLIES FULL. 382 00:11:36,866 --> 00:11:40,100 I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE 383 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:44,300 DOES -- WANTING TO MAKE SURE 384 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:45,533 EVERYTHING IS DONE THE RIGHT 385 00:11:45,533 --> 00:11:46,933 WAY, DONE MY WAY. 386 00:11:46,933 --> 00:11:47,933 AND I DO WHEN SPEAKING WITH 387 00:11:47,933 --> 00:11:49,766 OTHER NEW MOMS WE ALL SAY THE 388 00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:50,366 SAME THING. 389 00:11:50,366 --> 00:11:51,366 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING 390 00:11:51,366 --> 00:11:52,766 IS RUNNING THE WAY WE WANT IT TO 391 00:11:52,766 --> 00:11:53,033 RUN. 392 00:11:53,033 --> 00:11:54,500 BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK 393 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,666 THAT IT'S SOCIETIAL IMPOSED FROM 394 00:11:56,666 --> 00:11:57,000 SOCIETY. 395 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,800 I THINK IT'S JUST MAYBE THE TYPE 396 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,700 A IN US. 397 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:01,433 >> I THINK THE PRESSURE TO 398 00:12:01,433 --> 00:12:02,866 CONFORM TO A STEREOTYPE IS 399 00:12:02,866 --> 00:12:04,366 STRONGER THAN OTHER ESPECIALLY 400 00:12:04,366 --> 00:12:06,200 THE DATA SHOWING HOW THIS BEARS 401 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,233 OUT FOR WORKING MOMS AND 402 00:12:08,233 --> 00:12:09,533 NONWORKING MOMS WHO ARE MARRIED 403 00:12:09,533 --> 00:12:10,933 AND THAT THERE'S THIS PRESSURE 404 00:12:10,933 --> 00:12:12,433 IF YOU'RE WORKING TOO THAT 405 00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:13,800 YOU'RE NOT FITTING THE MOLD SO 406 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,733 I'M GOING TO GO HOME AND WORK 407 00:12:15,733 --> 00:12:17,166 EXTRA HARD BECAUSE I'M WORKING 408 00:12:17,166 --> 00:12:18,500 FROM 9:00 TO 5:00 AND I THINK 409 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:20,366 THAT DATA POINT IS VERY TELLING 410 00:12:20,366 --> 00:12:22,466 IN THAT THE BACK LASH STILL TO 411 00:12:22,466 --> 00:12:24,000 BE A FULL TIME WORKING MOM IN 412 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,633 TODAY'S WORLD IS STILL MET WITH 413 00:12:25,633 --> 00:12:28,066 A LITTLE BIT OF SKEPTICISM. 414 00:12:28,066 --> 00:12:29,566 >> SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? 415 00:12:29,566 --> 00:12:31,666 >> I THINK THE ANSWER IS YOU DO 416 00:12:31,666 --> 00:12:34,833 WHAT WORKS FOR YOU. 417 00:12:34,833 --> 00:12:35,933 AND THERE'S THIS CULTURE OF 418 00:12:35,933 --> 00:12:42,066 MARRIAGE IS VERY MUCH BASED -- 419 00:12:42,066 --> 00:12:43,133 COUPLES HAVE TO COWHAT MAKES 420 00:12:43,133 --> 00:12:44,766 SENSE FOR THEM. 421 00:12:44,766 --> 00:12:46,000 WOMEN ARE DOING A LOT OF THE 422 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,833 CATCH UP BECAUSE OF THE STIGMAS. 423 00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:49,833 >> I GLUE UP IN A HOUSEHOLD 424 00:12:49,833 --> 00:12:50,900 WHERE MY MOTHER WAS VERY 425 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:55,433 CONSCIOUS OF IT, OF THE ROLES 426 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:57,366 AND VERY DEMANDING OF MY DAD 427 00:12:57,366 --> 00:12:59,233 WHICH WAS VERY RADICAL IN PUERTO 428 00:12:59,233 --> 00:12:59,566 RICO. 429 00:12:59,566 --> 00:13:01,633 SUPER TRADITIONAL. 430 00:13:01,633 --> 00:13:02,633 I DISAGREE WITH YOU. 431 00:13:02,633 --> 00:13:03,566 IT'S TRADITION. 432 00:13:03,566 --> 00:13:04,900 IT'S NOT MALICIOUS. 433 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:06,866 IT'S JUST TRADITION. 434 00:13:06,866 --> 00:13:08,366 THE THING IS THAT IT'S PUTTING A 435 00:13:08,366 --> 00:13:10,000 LOT OF STRESS IN WOMEN THAT FEEL 436 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,133 THEY HAVE TO BE LITTLE MISS 437 00:13:12,133 --> 00:13:12,600 PERFECT. 438 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,766 I HAVE TO CLEAN AND COOK AND ALL 439 00:13:13,766 --> 00:13:15,833 THESE THINGS AND ARE NOT DMANGD 440 00:13:15,833 --> 00:13:20,000 OF MEN TO SHARE IN THE BURDEN. 441 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,933 SO I THINK THIS IS THE KEY HERE. 442 00:13:21,933 --> 00:13:23,433 WHY WITH ALL THE AWARENESS THAT 443 00:13:23,433 --> 00:13:25,833 WE HAVE THAT SURVEYS STILL SHOW 444 00:13:25,833 --> 00:13:27,033 THAT THE WOMEN ARE CARRYING THE 445 00:13:27,033 --> 00:13:27,366 BURDEN. 446 00:13:27,366 --> 00:13:28,900 WHY ARE THEY NOT ASKING AND WHY 447 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:30,666 ARE THE GUYS NOT OFFERING? 448 00:13:30,666 --> 00:13:32,266 >> BECAUSE THE POPULATION, THE 449 00:13:32,266 --> 00:13:35,000 GENERAL POPULATION IS ONE THING 450 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,033 AND WHAT YOU SEE PORTRAYED IN 451 00:13:36,033 --> 00:13:37,900 THE MEDIA IS QUITE ANOTHER. 452 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,100 DO YOU THINK -- DO YOU AGREE 453 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:40,366 WITH THEM THAT MARRIAGE IS A 454 00:13:40,366 --> 00:13:41,866 GENDERED INSTITUTION? 455 00:13:41,866 --> 00:13:43,366 IN OTHER WORDS IT'S MORE 456 00:13:43,366 --> 00:13:45,833 ENTRAPPING IN TERMS OF MAKING 457 00:13:45,833 --> 00:13:47,900 PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY THINK 458 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:50,000 TRADITION REQUIRES OF THEM THAN 459 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,933 BEING SINGLE? 460 00:13:50,933 --> 00:13:52,400 >> IT CAN BE BUT I THINK IN MY 461 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,333 GENERATION I REMAIN COMPLETELY 462 00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:55,600 ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT I 463 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,900 SEE SO MANY MEN AND WOMEN 464 00:13:57,900 --> 00:13:59,100 THROUGH FRIENDS AND EVEN 465 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:02,933 ACQUAINT TENSES TALK OPENLY 466 00:14:02,933 --> 00:14:04,733 ABOUT REAPS. I KNOW I'M IN A 467 00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:06,433 TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE WHERE 468 00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:08,000 UNFORTUNATELY MY HUSBAND IS A 469 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,966 MAJOR BREADWINNER NOW BUT HE 470 00:14:09,966 --> 00:14:10,766 SAYS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE 471 00:14:10,766 --> 00:14:17,400 BIG BUCKS, I WANT TO BE THE STAY 472 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,466 AT HOME DAD. 473 00:14:18,466 --> 00:14:20,900 BUT HE MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR ME. 474 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:22,233 CERTAINLY ROLES ARE BEING 475 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:23,866 CHALLENGED IN THESE NEW 476 00:14:23,866 --> 00:14:25,433 GENERATIONS BUT WHAT I'M WORRIED 477 00:14:25,433 --> 00:14:28,666 ABOUT I'M THE FOREVER OPTIMIST. 478 00:14:28,666 --> 00:14:30,266 I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF 479 00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,766 SOCIAL MEDIA ON MOTHERS WHETHER 480 00:14:32,766 --> 00:14:35,966 THEY'RE STAY AT HOME OR WORKING. 481 00:14:35,966 --> 00:14:36,800 IT'S BECAUSE OF -- 482 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,566 >> IT'S THE AVAILABILITY OF 483 00:14:37,566 --> 00:14:39,733 CREDIT AND NOW EVERYBODY HAS AN 484 00:14:39,733 --> 00:14:42,366 iPHONE OR ANDROID THAT'S SUPER 485 00:14:42,366 --> 00:14:43,833 COMPLEX AND THEY CAN SEE RIGHT 486 00:14:43,833 --> 00:14:45,266 AT THEIR FINGERTIPS WHAT ANOTHER 487 00:14:45,266 --> 00:14:45,833 MOM IS DOING. 488 00:14:45,833 --> 00:14:46,933 SHE HAS A GREAT STROLLER. 489 00:14:46,933 --> 00:14:50,433 SHE'S OUT TO DRINKS AND DINNER. 490 00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:51,666 THE PICTURES DON'T TELL THE 491 00:14:51,666 --> 00:14:52,633 WHOLE STORY. 492 00:14:52,633 --> 00:14:53,900 EVERYBODY'S STRIVING FOR THIS 493 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:55,766 PERFECTION AND YOU MAY HAVE 494 00:14:55,766 --> 00:14:56,300 MOTHERS THAT -- 495 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:57,066 >> THAT'S NOT NEW. 496 00:14:57,066 --> 00:15:00,733 TEN YEARS AGO WE DID A STORY 497 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:02,366 ABOUT SOMEBODY SURVEYED THE 498 00:15:02,366 --> 00:15:04,233 AVERAGE INCOME OF FAMILIES ON 499 00:15:04,233 --> 00:15:06,100 TELEVISION AND IT WAS 200 GRAND 500 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:07,266 A YEAR WHICH OF COURSE IS WAY 501 00:15:07,266 --> 00:15:08,700 ABOVE THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE 502 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:11,700 AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY AND SO 503 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:13,433 YOU -- IT MAY BE TRUE IN SOCIAL 504 00:15:13,433 --> 00:15:13,733 MEDIA. 505 00:15:13,733 --> 00:15:15,266 IT'S ALSO TRUE IN TELEVISION. 506 00:15:15,266 --> 00:15:17,266 SO THIS IS NOT A NEW INFLUENCE. 507 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,500 >> THE AVAILABILITY OF CREDIT. 508 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,633 YOU CAN GO OUT WITH OUR AM 509 00:15:19,633 --> 00:15:22,233 EX-AND GET THE SAME SHOES THAT 510 00:15:22,233 --> 00:15:23,533 ANYBODY CAN HAVE. 511 00:15:23,533 --> 00:15:24,566 >> I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS 512 00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:27,200 IT'S NOT JUST SOME OTHER PERSON 513 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,766 ON TV. 514 00:15:28,766 --> 00:15:29,966 IT'S MY FRIEND. 515 00:15:29,966 --> 00:15:31,100 IT'S THE WOMAN IN THE MOMMY 516 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:31,433 CIRCLE. 517 00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:32,433 THE MOM THAT PICKS UP THEIR 518 00:15:32,433 --> 00:15:34,033 DAUGHTER AT SCHOOL AND WHAT 519 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:35,166 SHE'S POSTING. 520 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:36,466 I THINK THOUGH TO THE QUESTION 521 00:15:36,466 --> 00:15:37,966 ABOUT HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS WILL, 522 00:15:37,966 --> 00:15:39,266 FLEXIBILITY IN THE WORK PLACE I 523 00:15:39,266 --> 00:15:40,733 THINK IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR 524 00:15:40,733 --> 00:15:42,100 HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT SO WHEN YOU 525 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,600 CAN WORK FROM HOME ALL OF A 526 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,966 SUDDEN YOU KNOW MOMS AND DADS 527 00:15:45,966 --> 00:15:47,000 CAN START TO DO A LOT MORE OF 528 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,433 THE CHORES AND SHARE THE CHORES 529 00:15:48,433 --> 00:15:49,333 WHERE YOU DON'T FEEL THEY'RE 530 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:50,533 CRUNCHED TO GET IT DONE AT THE 531 00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:52,633 BEGINNING AND END OF THE DAY AND 532 00:15:52,633 --> 00:15:56,900 THAT STRESS LEVEL DECREASES. 533 00:15:56,900 --> 00:15:59,666 WE HAVE POLLED MEN AND WOMEN AND 534 00:15:59,666 --> 00:16:00,366 RESOUNDINGLY FOUND THAT THEY 535 00:16:00,366 --> 00:16:02,200 WANT NOT JUST FLEXIBILITY IN THE 536 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,666 WORKFORCE AND IN WORK PLACE BUT 537 00:16:03,666 --> 00:16:06,966 ALSO CHILD CARE AND HOW DO WE -- 538 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,000 HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT PLAY A 539 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,766 ROLE IN THIS BUT I THINK 540 00:16:09,766 --> 00:16:11,100 FLEXIBILITY IS HUGE. 541 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:12,133 >> ALL RIGHT. 542 00:16:12,133 --> 00:16:12,466 THANKS. 543 00:16:12,466 --> 00:16:15,200 WE'RE OUT OF TIME ON THIS ONE. 544 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,233 BEHIND THE HEADLINES. 545 00:16:16,233 --> 00:16:17,866 TRAVELING SOLO. 546 00:16:17,866 --> 00:16:19,166 WOMEN ARE VISITING FOREIGN 547 00:16:19,166 --> 00:16:21,433 COUNTRIES ALONE MORE OFTEN THAN 548 00:16:21,433 --> 00:16:22,666 EVER THEY ARE FREQUENTLY 549 00:16:22,666 --> 00:16:24,433 MOTIVATED BY A SENSE OF 550 00:16:24,433 --> 00:16:25,833 ADVENTURE AND EXCITEMENT. 551 00:16:25,833 --> 00:16:28,200 BUT THAT EXPERIENCE COMES WITH 552 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:28,500 RISK. 553 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,100 AND HARROWING TALES OF SURVIVING 554 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:34,166 VIOLENCE ABROAD. 555 00:16:34,166 --> 00:16:36,233 >> I WAS ASSAULTED BY A ROMAN 556 00:16:36,233 --> 00:16:39,533 CITIZEN AND IT WAS QUITE 557 00:16:39,533 --> 00:16:40,133 PHYSICAL, THE ASSAULT. 558 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,000 HE WAS TRYING TO RAPE ME. 559 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,966 HE LOCKED ME INTO HIS APARTMENT. 560 00:16:43,966 --> 00:16:45,866 EVEN THOUGH I HAD EXPRESSED A 561 00:16:45,866 --> 00:16:47,666 NONDESIRE NOT ONLY TO NOT HAVE 562 00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:48,833 SEX BUT TO END THE NIGHT 563 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:50,766 ULTIMATELY I WIND UP MAYBE SIX 564 00:16:50,766 --> 00:16:54,400 HOURS AFTER MEETING HIM HANGING 565 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,566 OFF A SIX STORY BUILDING 566 00:16:57,566 --> 00:17:12,366 FIGHTING HIM OFF AND THEN 567 00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:12,733 ESCAPING. 568 00:17:12,733 --> 00:17:14,966 SHE SAYS SHE HAD TO CLIMB ACROSS 569 00:17:14,966 --> 00:17:17,966 ROOF TOPS AND DOWN SIX STORIES 570 00:17:17,966 --> 00:17:20,566 TO ESCAPE HER ATTACKER. 571 00:17:20,566 --> 00:17:21,366 >> IT WAS 2:00 OR 3:00 IN THE 572 00:17:21,366 --> 00:17:22,933 MORNING WHEN I GOT BACK TO THE 573 00:17:22,933 --> 00:17:23,233 HOTEL. 574 00:17:23,233 --> 00:17:25,833 THE EMBASSY DOESN'T OPEN UNTIL 575 00:17:25,833 --> 00:17:28,800 8:00 OR 9:00 SO YOU JUST HAVE TO 576 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,666 SIT THERE AND WAIT. 577 00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:32,166 WHICH WAS HARD FOR ME BECAUSE MY 578 00:17:32,166 --> 00:17:33,166 ASSAILANT KNEW WHERE I WAS 579 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:35,900 STAYING SO I FELT UNSAFE FOR 580 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:37,266 THOSE FIVE OR SIX HOURS. 581 00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:38,766 I HAD THE POLICE IN MY ROOM 582 00:17:38,766 --> 00:17:41,033 SCREAMING AT ME TO GO WITH THEM 583 00:17:41,033 --> 00:17:42,700 FOR AN INTERVIEW BUT I DIDN'T 584 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:43,566 HAVE AN INTERPRETER. 585 00:17:43,566 --> 00:17:44,933 SO NOW I HAVE THE POLICE YELLING 586 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:46,400 AT ME IN MY ROOM AT 3:00 IN THE 587 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,266 MORNING, I DON'T HAVE 588 00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:48,700 INTERPRETERS. 589 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:50,166 >> HER FRUSTRATION WITH THE LACK 590 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:52,233 OF SERVICES FOR VICTIMS HAS BEEN 591 00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:54,366 ECHOED BY OTHER SURVIVORS AND 592 00:17:54,366 --> 00:17:54,933 ADVOCATES. 593 00:17:54,933 --> 00:17:57,566 PATHWAYS' MISSION IS TO HELP 594 00:17:57,566 --> 00:17:58,000 PROVIDE THEM. 595 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,233 >> WE WILL GIVE THEM VOUCHERS TO 596 00:18:00,233 --> 00:18:01,400 MOVE TO A NEW HOTEL. 597 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,666 WE'LL GET THEM ARRANGEMENTS AND 598 00:18:02,666 --> 00:18:05,366 UBER TO GET THEM TO A PLACE TO 599 00:18:05,366 --> 00:18:07,266 GET A RAPE KIT OR HOSPITAL 600 00:18:07,266 --> 00:18:07,866 VISIT. 601 00:18:07,866 --> 00:18:09,300 WE'LL INTERACT WITH THE POLICE. 602 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:11,833 PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES. 603 00:18:11,833 --> 00:18:13,200 EVERYTHING THAT THEY WOULD NEED 604 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,800 TO NAVIGATE THOSE SYSTEMS. 605 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,433 >> BUT JUST HOW RISKY IS IT TO 606 00:18:16,433 --> 00:18:17,733 TRAVEL ALONE? 607 00:18:17,733 --> 00:18:20,366 THE TRUTH IS NO ONE QUITE KNOWS. 608 00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:21,966 >> WE KNOW THAT WOMEN 609 00:18:21,966 --> 00:18:23,600 DISPROPORTIONATELY FACE VIOLENCE 610 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,133 IN PUBLIC SPACES MEN DON'T FACE. 611 00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:28,233 WE SAW A RISE IN SOLO FEMALE 612 00:18:28,233 --> 00:18:30,466 TRAVEL IN GENERAL BUT ALSO NO 613 00:18:30,466 --> 00:18:34,533 STRAY AT THISESICS AVAILABLE TO 614 00:18:34,533 --> 00:18:37,300 UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR 615 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,666 WOMEN WHO TRAVEL ABROAD. 616 00:18:39,666 --> 00:18:41,600 WE DID NOT SEE FIGURES OUT THERE 617 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,833 FOR NUMBERS OF ATTACKS. 618 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:43,600 AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS 619 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:52,966 QUITE CONCERNING TO US. 620 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:54,933 >> YOU KIND OF GREW OUT OF 621 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:57,600 SOMETHING WE WERE SEEING ALMOST 622 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,866 DAILY TOWARDS TEND OF THE YEAR 623 00:18:58,866 --> 00:18:59,633 LAST YEAR. 624 00:18:59,633 --> 00:19:03,033 THESE STORIES OF WOMEN WHO OFTEN 625 00:19:03,033 --> 00:19:06,266 WERE QUITE YOUNG, WESTERN WOMEN, 626 00:19:06,266 --> 00:19:09,200 TRAVELING ALONE AND HAD BEEN 627 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,966 ATTACKED OR IN SOME CASES 628 00:19:11,966 --> 00:19:12,500 KILLED. 629 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:13,966 >> SHE SAYS THE ARTICLE WASN'T 630 00:19:13,966 --> 00:19:16,033 MEANT TO SCARE FEMALE TRAVELLERS 631 00:19:16,033 --> 00:19:17,966 BUT TO HELP THEM PREPARE TO 632 00:19:17,966 --> 00:19:19,333 MANAGE THE RISK. 633 00:19:19,333 --> 00:19:20,733 >> SO WHETHER THAT'S LEARNING 634 00:19:20,733 --> 00:19:22,366 SELF-DEFENSE SO YOU FEEL MORE 635 00:19:22,366 --> 00:19:24,566 PREPARED IN THESE PUBLIC SPACES 636 00:19:24,566 --> 00:19:27,566 WHERE YOU MIGHT BE THREATENED OR 637 00:19:27,566 --> 00:19:29,566 WHETHER THAT IS CARRYING A GPS 638 00:19:29,566 --> 00:19:31,300 TRACKER SO THAT YOUR FRIENDS AND 639 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:32,400 FAMILY CAN KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT 640 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,933 ALL TIMES OR WHETHER THAT'S 641 00:19:36,933 --> 00:19:37,766 CHOOSING A HOLE TELL OR AIR B&B 642 00:19:37,766 --> 00:19:41,500 THAT HAS SECURITY FEATURES. 643 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:42,666 >> BUT NO MATTER HOW WELL 644 00:19:42,666 --> 00:19:44,466 PREPARE AID WOMAN IS THERE'S NO 645 00:19:44,466 --> 00:19:46,433 GUARANTEE AGAINST BEING 646 00:19:46,433 --> 00:19:46,800 ATTACKED. 647 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,500 >> ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO 648 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:50,966 EMPHASIZE WITH THIS STORY AS 649 00:19:50,966 --> 00:19:52,400 WELL IS UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS 650 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,966 IS PART OF A BROADER FABRIC OF 651 00:19:54,966 --> 00:19:56,200 VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN. 652 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,533 THIS IS JUST A THREAD IN THAT 653 00:19:57,533 --> 00:19:59,233 BROADER FABRIC. 654 00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:00,233 SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 655 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:01,633 ATTACKS ON FEMALE TRAVELLERS, 656 00:20:01,633 --> 00:20:02,900 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS 657 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,866 GENDER BASED VIOLENCE AND HOW 658 00:20:05,866 --> 00:20:08,733 NORMS AND SOME OF THE CULTURAL 659 00:20:08,733 --> 00:20:10,033 ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MAKE CAN 660 00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:12,900 ACTUALLY FACTOR INTO THIS TYPE 661 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:14,600 OF VIOLENCE. 662 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,900 >> SO MORE AND MORE WOMEN ARE 663 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:17,600 TRAVELING ABROAD ALONE BUT 664 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,300 SHOULDN'T THE TREND BE IN THE 665 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,200 OTHER DIRECTION? 666 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,700 JOIN A GROUP IF YOU WANT TO STAY 667 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:23,533 SAFE? 668 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:26,233 >> WELL, THIS IS A VERY 669 00:20:26,233 --> 00:20:27,900 IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I'M GLAD 670 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:30,500 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE 671 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:31,733 INCREASING NUMBER OF WOMEN ARE 672 00:20:31,733 --> 00:20:32,566 TRAVELING ALONE. 673 00:20:32,566 --> 00:20:35,033 THE FACT IS THAT MOST WOMEN 674 00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:37,033 SURVIVE AND DON'T HAVE THESE 675 00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:37,433 EXPERIENCES. 676 00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:39,433 WE'RE VERY AWARE WHEN WE TRAVEL. 677 00:20:39,433 --> 00:20:40,866 BUT IT HAPPENS AND I THINK 678 00:20:40,866 --> 00:20:42,933 PEOPLE NEED TO BE PREPARED. 679 00:20:42,933 --> 00:20:44,566 IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IS 680 00:20:44,566 --> 00:20:45,466 THE SAFETY ISSUE. 681 00:20:45,466 --> 00:20:47,100 KNOW HOW TO GET READY. 682 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:47,633 YOU KNOW -- 683 00:20:47,633 --> 00:20:49,066 >> SAFETY AND LANGUAGE. 684 00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:50,100 >> SAFETY, LANGUAGE. 685 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,133 >> YOU COULD GETTED ATTACKED IN 686 00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:53,033 YOUR HOMETOWN AND IT'S NOT LIKE 687 00:20:53,033 --> 00:20:54,433 WE LIVE IN A VIOLENCE FREE 688 00:20:54,433 --> 00:20:56,900 COUNTRY OURSELVES BUT AT LEAST 689 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:59,066 YOU KNOW THE COPS. 690 00:20:59,066 --> 00:21:00,900 YOU'RE IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. 691 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:01,300 ET CETERA. 692 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:02,366 >> THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT 693 00:21:02,366 --> 00:21:03,100 YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING WHICH IS 694 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,933 IMPORTANT IT'S GIVING TIPS FOR 695 00:21:05,933 --> 00:21:07,933 WOMEN THAT ARE TRAVELING BY 696 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:08,333 THEMSELVES. 697 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:10,100 AS YOU KNOW I DO INTERNATIONAL 698 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:10,600 WORK. 699 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,100 I TRAVEL A LOT. 700 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:12,800 A LOT BY MYSELF AT LEAST TO GET 701 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,900 THERE AND GET TO SOME OF THE 702 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,100 MEETINGS THAT I GO TO. 703 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,600 I'M SO AWARE OF HOW I DO THINGS, 704 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,766 VERY AWARE OF SAFETY BUT THINGS 705 00:21:20,766 --> 00:21:22,033 CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE SOME 706 00:21:22,033 --> 00:21:24,033 COUNTRIES ARE VERY UNSAFE. 707 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,200 IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE WOMEN OF 708 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,666 THESE COUNTRIES AND EVEN MORE 709 00:21:26,666 --> 00:21:28,833 FOR A FOREIGNER. 710 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:30,866 >> I THINK EVERY COUNTRY CAN BE 711 00:21:30,866 --> 00:21:31,200 UNSAFE. 712 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,300 IT'S JUST ABOUT KNOWING YOUR 713 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:33,733 SURROUNDINGS. 714 00:21:33,733 --> 00:21:35,400 I'VE TRAVELED EXTENSIVELY ALONE 715 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,166 PRIOR TO MEETING MY HUSBAND AND 716 00:21:37,166 --> 00:21:40,633 I WAS HAPPY TO DO SO. 717 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,133 WHEN I SAW MEN HIKING ALONE I 718 00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:43,633 GREW UP IN WILD WONDERFUL WEST 719 00:21:43,633 --> 00:21:44,866 VIRGINIA I THOUGHT I COULD DO 720 00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:47,400 ANYTHING FROM GOING TO A CITY TO 721 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,433 THE MOUNTAINS. 722 00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,466 I WAS NEVER SCARED BUT NOW IN MY 723 00:21:50,466 --> 00:21:52,633 MID-30S, I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS 724 00:21:52,633 --> 00:21:53,666 NOW TOO. 725 00:21:53,666 --> 00:21:56,133 I WAS JUST RECENTLY ON A TRIP 726 00:21:56,133 --> 00:21:57,133 WHERE I WAS GOING TO BE ALONE 727 00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:58,400 FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN A 728 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,300 FOREIGN COUNTRY AND I REMEMBER 729 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:02,466 GETTING READY FOR IT AND BEING 730 00:22:02,466 --> 00:22:05,200 VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT I WORE 731 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,600 AND HOW REALLY CLOSE FITTING MY 732 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,600 DRESS WAS. 733 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,566 AND JUST HOW I WAS GOING TO 734 00:22:08,566 --> 00:22:09,800 OPERATE AND I JUST THOUGHT TO 735 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,000 MYSELF TEN YEARS BACK I WOULD 736 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,866 NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT. 737 00:22:12,866 --> 00:22:14,433 AND I DID NOT DRINK ANY DRINKS 738 00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:16,066 BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT WHAT IF 739 00:22:16,066 --> 00:22:18,866 SOMEBODY TOUCHES THAT DRINK. 740 00:22:18,866 --> 00:22:21,033 SO IT'S ABOUT BEING AWARE. 741 00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:26,100 IT'S INCUMBENT UPON WOMEN. 742 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,966 I HAD A TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE IN 743 00:22:27,966 --> 00:22:30,533 INDIA ON AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT 744 00:22:30,533 --> 00:22:31,633 TO INDIA WHERE A MAN WAS 745 00:22:31,633 --> 00:22:32,966 PLEASURING HIMSELF ACROSS THE 746 00:22:32,966 --> 00:22:34,600 AISLE FROM ME. 747 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,566 >> YOU DIDN'T CALL THE FLIGHT 748 00:22:35,566 --> 00:22:35,933 ATTENDANT? 749 00:22:35,933 --> 00:22:38,900 >> I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT WAS 750 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:40,866 HAPPENING FOR 30 MINUTES. 751 00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:42,400 WHEN I REALIZED, I FELT SO 752 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,600 VIOLATED AND ANGRY I WENT TO THE 753 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,366 STEWARDSES AND THEY TOOK THEIR 754 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:48,300 TIME TO MOVE ME. 755 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:50,333 ABOUT 20 MINUTES. 756 00:22:50,333 --> 00:22:51,066 I REMEMBER FEELING SO WEIRDED 757 00:22:51,066 --> 00:22:53,233 OUT AND SCARED IN THOSE MINUTES 758 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:54,000 AND COULDN'T BELIEVE. 759 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,300 I'M STILL HAVING A MOMENT WHERE 760 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:56,366 I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED TO 761 00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:57,766 ME TO KNOW THAT THERE'S AN 762 00:22:57,766 --> 00:22:59,133 ORGANIZATION WHERE OTHER WOMEN 763 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:00,833 MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCED SOMETHING 764 00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:02,633 I THINK COULD HAVE GIVEN ME SOME 765 00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:03,900 COMFORT BUT I WAS FURIOUS AT THE 766 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:06,166 FLIGHT ATTENDANTS. 767 00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:06,900 >> AT THAT POINT WHEN YOU'RE 768 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,933 FLYING IT'S ON THE AIRLINE I 769 00:23:08,933 --> 00:23:10,300 WOULD THINK. 770 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,400 >> THEY WERE WOMEN AND THEY 771 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,000 COULD NOT EVEN -- 772 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,533 >> WHAT THIS RAISES FOR ME AS 773 00:23:14,533 --> 00:23:16,500 SOMEBODY IN A COUNTRY WHERE 774 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:17,733 PEOPLE OF COLOR, WOMEN OF COLOR 775 00:23:17,733 --> 00:23:20,800 ARE TOO ALSO WE POLICE OURSELVES 776 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,133 AND HOW WE MOVE AROUND IN SAFETY 777 00:23:23,133 --> 00:23:27,866 AND COMMUNITIES. 778 00:23:27,866 --> 00:23:29,100 I THINK LOTS OF COHORTS AND 779 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,000 FRIENDS THAT I HAVE WHO ARE 780 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 WOMEN OF COLOR TRAVELING TAKE 781 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,900 THAT APPROACH TO WHERE WE DON'T 782 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:34,900 TRAVEL IN OUR BACKYARDS 783 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:36,133 SOMETIMES BY OURSELVES BECAUSE 784 00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:38,566 WE'RE AFRAID OF BEING, YOU KNOW, 785 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:41,866 ATTACKED OR SINGLED OUT OR THERE 786 00:23:41,866 --> 00:23:45,566 ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY 787 00:23:45,566 --> 00:23:46,333 THAT WOMEN OF COLOR DON'T TRAVEL 788 00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:48,066 TO FOR THAT REASON. 789 00:23:48,066 --> 00:23:48,833 THERE'S AN APPROACH AND ALWAYS 790 00:23:48,833 --> 00:23:50,166 HAS BEEN FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR IN 791 00:23:50,166 --> 00:23:52,666 PARTICULAR IN MOVING INTO 792 00:23:52,666 --> 00:23:53,500 UNKNOWN SPACES. 793 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,633 >> SO YOU THINK THEY'RE SAFER? 794 00:23:55,633 --> 00:23:58,433 WOMEN OF COLOR MAY BE SAFER? 795 00:23:58,433 --> 00:23:59,833 >> I THINK THERE'S A PRIVILEGE 796 00:23:59,833 --> 00:24:01,666 TO FREE MOVEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY 797 00:24:01,666 --> 00:24:03,166 THAT WHITE PEOPLE HAVE THAT 798 00:24:03,166 --> 00:24:04,733 PEOPLE OF COLOR DO NOT HAVE AND 799 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:06,500 TRAVELING ABROAD MYSELF TO SOUTH 800 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,733 ASIA WHEN I WAS YOUNGER WAS ONE 801 00:24:08,733 --> 00:24:09,966 OF THE THINGS THAT I DID FIRST 802 00:24:09,966 --> 00:24:11,466 WAS TO SAY WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR A 803 00:24:11,466 --> 00:24:13,333 BLACK PERSON TRAVELING IN SOUTH 804 00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:16,466 AN ATHAT WHERE THERE'S NO BLACK 805 00:24:16,466 --> 00:24:17,766 PEOPLE AND THERE WERE RESOURCES 806 00:24:17,766 --> 00:24:19,433 AND WEBSITES AND BOOKS IN SOME 807 00:24:19,433 --> 00:24:20,733 CASES ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT BUT 808 00:24:20,733 --> 00:24:22,866 THE EXPECTATION FOR SOME OF US 809 00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:24,133 IS THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE 810 00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:25,233 AN ASSUMPTION THAT I HAVE THE 811 00:24:25,233 --> 00:24:26,700 PRIVILEGE TO GO AS I FREE WHERE 812 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:28,633 I WANT TO GO FIRST AND FOREMOST 813 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,633 AS A PERSON OF COLOR AND THEN 814 00:24:30,633 --> 00:24:32,333 THE DEAL IS RIGHT NOW WE LIVE IN 815 00:24:32,333 --> 00:24:33,900 A SOCIETY WHERE WOMEN HAVE TO 816 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:35,400 THINK TWICE ABOUT EVEN WALKING 817 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,933 TO OUR CARS AFTER WORK. 818 00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:39,800 THOSE THINGS COME TO MIND FOR ME 819 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,166 FOR SURE. 820 00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:40,600 >> ALL RIGHT. 821 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,066 THANK YOU ALL. 822 00:24:41,066 --> 00:24:41,500 GREAT SHOW. 823 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:42,300 GREAT JOB. 824 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:43,433 THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION. 825 00:24:43,433 --> 00:24:44,733 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AND 826 00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:48,433 VISIT OUR WEBSITE. 827 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