FOUNDATION AND THE CHARLES A.

FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE

CONTRARY...

HILLARY CLINTON MAKES IT

OFFICIAL.

THEN...

THE PAY GAP IN PLACES CALLING

FOR AN END TO THE PAY GAP.

THEN COLLEGE STUDENTS SEXUAL

PRACTICES HEAD SOUTH.

 

[♪♪♪♪♪♪]

>> HELLO I'M BONNIE ERBE WELCOME

TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF

NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM

DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, HILLARY READY TO RUN.

USING SOCIAL MEDIA, VIDEO AND

E-MAIL, HILLARY CLINTON WILL

LAUNCH HER 2016 CAMPAIGN FOR

PRESIDENT.

AFTER THE DIGITAL KICKOFF, SHE

WILL BEGIN CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA

WHERE SHE FINISHED THIRD IN

2008.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS LONG

ANTICIPATED AND NO SURPRISE.

CLINTON HAS BEEN DROPPING HINTS

ABOUT HER INTENTIONS FOR

SOMETIME.

>> DON'T YOU SOME DAY WANT TO

SEE A WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

[APPLAUSE]

WELL, IN MANY WAYS...

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS...

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS CAN ONLY

BE ANSWERED BY YOU.

>> OK.

WILL YOU OR WOMEN THE YOU OF

WOMEN, ELECT, ELECT HILLARY

PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE IS INDEED

WHOOOING THE WOMEN'S VOTE.

>> IN 201255% OF THE WOMEN VOTED

FOR OBAMA AND ALL THE ANALYSTS

AGREED THE WOMEN DELIVERED THE

PREP SI FOR HIM.

>> AND SUBSTANCE MATTERS MORE

THAN GENDER AND I WILL PUT MY

MONEY ON THAT FOR 2016.

>> I THINK HILLARY IS POPULAR

BUT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE NOT

ONLY BE THE FIRST WOMAN

PRESIDENT BUT SHE HAS A TRACK

RECORD ON BEING GOOD ON THE

WOMEN'S ISSUES AND HUGELY

POPULAR AMONG MILLENNIALS AND

THAT WILL PUT HER IN THE WHITE

HOUSE.

>> IF SHE CAN GET PAST THE

SCANDALS AND DOES NOT HAVE A

SURPRISE SHE MAY DO IT.

>> YOU SAY SUBSTANCE MATTERS

ABOVE GENDER.

BUT YOU DON'T THINK SHE HAS

SUBSTANCE?

>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, I THINK

I DISAGREE WITH HILLARY CLINTON

ON 90% OF WHAT SHE STANDS FOR

WHETHER IT'S THE WORKPLACE,

ENERGY, HEALTHCARE.

BUT WHAT I THINK SHE IS MOST

VULNERABLE IS BEING OVERHANDLED.

THIS WEEK ALONE, I HEARD PUNDITS

TALK ABOUT OLD HILLARY, NEW

HILLARY, AND WHAT I WANTED TO

SAY GO AWAY AND THINK ABOUT THE

THINGS THAT YOU STAND FOR AND

COME BACK AS YOURSELF.

IF YOU DO THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT

HAPPENS BUT YOU HAVE A BETTER

CHANCE OF WINNING.

>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU ARE

SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE LAUNCH

SOMETHING ON-LINE THROUGH SOCIAL

MEDIA FOLLOWED UP WITH WHAT THEY

ARE DESCRIBING ARE MORE

MEETINGS.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT KNOW

HILLARY, I DID WORK FOR THE

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SO I HAVE

BEEN EXPOSED TO HER THAT IS HER

SES SET.

ON ONE ONE SHE IS POWERFUL.

SHE IS SUBSTANTIVE.

WE DIFFER THIS IS A WOMAN OF

SUBSTANCE WITH AN IMPECCABLE

TRACK RECORD.

THINGS HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN

PERFECT.

FOR ME THE LAUNCHING IS TELLING

SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE AND

SHE WILL DO IT VERY, VERY

DIFFERENTLY.

THIS IS HER IN HER MID-60s

LAUNCHING HER CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL

MEDIA AND TO HER STRENGTH THEIR

PERSONAL ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE

OF ISSUES.

>> WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT

LAUNCHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA?

IT'S NOW AND TODAY.

BUT AS UP WITH WHO COVERED MANY

PRESIDENTIAL LAUNCHES WHEN I WAS

A DAILY NEWS REPORTER, IT LACKS

AN EVENT.

IT LACKS THE EXCITEMENT, I

THINK.

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY

THIS IS A SURPRISE AT ALL.

SHE OPENED HEADQUARTERS OR

SIGNED A LEASE ON A HEADQUARTERS

IN BROOKLINE HEIGHTS VERY

AFFLUENT PART OF NEW YORK CITY.

HER PEOPLE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY

ARE DOING.

THEY ARE BUILDING IT UP AND

DOING THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS

BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES SOCIAL

MEDIA AND IT'S WHAT SHE IS GOING

TO DO ONCE SHE MADE THE

ANNOUNCEMENT WHETHER IT'S

SIGNIFICANT OR NOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE WHOOOING

WOMEN?

SHE NEEDS TO WALK A TIGHT ROPE

SHE CANNOT OFFEND MEN, OF COURSE

BUT CLEARLY SHE IS APPEALING TO

WOMEN AND SHE HAS BEEN A WOMAN'S

WOMANS A POLITICIAN.

CAN THAT HURT HER?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT ASSET AND

SHE IS POPULAR NOW AMONG YOUNG

WOMEN.

AS COCHAIR OF THE NATIONAL READY

FOR HILLARY MILLENNIAL COUNCIL

FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AROUND

THE COUNTRY WE HAVE BEEN SEEING

YOUNG PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT

HILLARY.

WE HAVE THROWN 1300 GRASSROOTS

EVENTS JAM PACKED WITH YOUNG

PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT

HER.

>> WILL IT BE LIKE THE OBAMA

EFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE?

>> VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK YOUNG ORGANIZERS WHO

GREW UP WITH OBAMA ARE EXCITED

ALSO ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON.

>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK --

YOU MENTIONED THE 2014

ELECTIONS, HOW MUCH THE OFF

PRESIDENTIAL YEAR WHEN VOTER

TURNOUT WAS EXTREMELY LOW.

HOW MUCH CAN YOU GAUGE HER

CHANCES OF PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESS

BASED ON 2014 WHEN THE

PRESIDENTIAL RACE DRAWS OUT A

THE MORE PEOPLE.

HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE IS ALWAYS A

QUESTION AND AN IMPORTANT

QUESTION.

BUT STILL YOU KNOW YOU WILL HAVE

BIGGER TURNOUT.

>> WE WILL ON BOTH SIDES, OF

COURSE.

ONE THING TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS

2014 WAS A CONTENTIOUS RACE AND

THERE WERE A LOT OF RACES

FOCUSED ON THE WOMEN'S VOTE.

AND FOR THE CONVERSATION

NATIONALLY, THEY TOOK IT IN THE

WRONG DIRECTION.

THE DEMOCRATS RUNNING ON IT

PEOPLE LIKE COLORADO THEY

OVERPLAYED THEIR HAPPENED AND

MORE WOMEN WERE SAYING WE HAVE

REAL ECONOMIC ISSUES AND

OBAMACARE AND THINGS ARE LOOK

TERRIBLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND

WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS WE DON'T

WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

>> LET ME JUMP IN.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

HOWEVER, THE MOTIVATED SIDE WERE

THE REPUBLICANS, THE CHRISTIAN

RIGHT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY

WERE OUT OF POWER.

AND YOU KNOW, UDALL GOT CALLED

SENATOR AND ALL THAT UGLY STUFF

HAPPENED.

SO YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT IT TURNED

OUT TO THE VOTERS WHO TURNED OUT

THAT --

IN THAT ELECTION IT WAS A LOSING

ISSUE.

WILL IT STAY A LOSING ISSUE WHEN

YOU HAVE MORE YOUNG AND

PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE GOING TO THE

POLLS?

>> I THINK IT WILL BUT THIS IS

WHERE I WOULD WARN REPUBLICANS.

THE WOMEN'S NARRATIVE IS GOING

TO CHANGE.

IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE

FOCUSED ON THE WORK LEAVE,

PAYCHECK FAIRNESS I THINK A LOT

OF REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PREPARED

THEY THINK IT IS GONE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK

THE G.O.P. HAS SOMETHING GOING

FOR THEM.

THEY HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE RIGHT

NOW.

ALL WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND

TARGETING DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS

AND CAUSING A DEBATE BETWEEN

THEM WITHIN THE PARTY AND THAT

IS A HEALTHY THING FOR BOTH

REPUBLICANS AND THE COUNTRY AT

LARGE.

>> AND I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTERS

BUT NOT SURE SHE REALLY HAS A

HURDLE TO OVERCOME.

SHE LOST TO OBAMA.

SHE DID NOT RUN THE BEST

CAMPAIGN.

SHE DID NOT HAVE THE STRONGEST

TEAM EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD THE

MOST MONEY AT THAT TIME.

SHE HAS TO OVERCOME THE

BARRIERS.

>> HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?

>> SHE HAS TO ORGANIZE WELL AND

BE IN CHARGE OF HER TEAM.

SHE CANNOT OVEREXPOSE HERSELFP

SHE CANNOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT --

FOR CERTAIN SHE IS GOING TO WIN

THE PRESIDENCY.

SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT

EVERYDAY.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT DRAWING

MILLENNIALS AND WE ALL REMEMBER

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAVING THAT ROCK

STAR OR BEING GIVEN BY I WOULD

SAY THE MALE-DOMINATED LEFT THAT

HE HAD THIS ROCK STAR POWER.

IS ANY WOMAN GOING TO BE GIVEN

THAT POWER BY THE PROGRESSIVE

MEN IN THE COUNTRY WHO REALLY

HELPED GET OBAMA ELECTED THE

FIRST TIME?

>> I THINK SO.

AND I'M SEEING THAT ACROSS THE

COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WITH THE

MILLENNIAL COUNCIL AND OUR

EVENTS FOR HILLARY.

OUR GENERATION GREW UP --

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL

LEADERS LIKE MARCUS, THE DAILY

CAUSE, AND YOUNG GUYS WHO ARE

OUT THERE EARLY SUPPORTERS OF

OBAMA.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK SINCE THE LAST ELECTION,

WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH FROM HILLARY.

SHE HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AS

SECRETARY OF STATE.

AND THE COUNTRY HAS GROWN READY

FOR HILLARY.

AND --

>> WHAT ABOUT THE STATE

DEPARTMENT E-MAIL SCANDAL HOW IS

THAT GOING TO PLAY?

>> I THINK THAT MOST AMERICANS

DON'T REALLY THINK THAT E-MAIL

ISSUE IS A BIG ISSUE.

THEY ARE MORE FOCUSED HOW WE ARE

GOING TO GROW THE MIDDLE CLASS

AND OUR ITCH YOU USES THAT

HILLARY HAS PROVE ESPECIALLY

THAT SHE IS STRONG ON.

>> YOU BRING UP THE SCANDAL,

THAT IS ONE MANY THAT SHE HAS

HAD AS SECRETARY OF STATE.

SO SHE IS SORT OF THE TEFLON

DAWN SHE CAN BOUNCE STUFF OFF.

BUT SOMEONE IS GOING TO SIT HER

DOWN AND SAY WHY DID THIS

HAPPEN?

AND SHE CANNOT ASSUME I'M GOING

TO BE THE NOMINEE.

SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT.

>> AND WHICH IS GOING TO DOG HER

MOST, THE E-MAIL SITUATION,

BENGHAZI, OR MY --

THE UP WITH I SEE AS HER

STRONGEST PROBLEM WHICH IS

TAKING THE CLINTON FOUNDATION

TAKING MOPE FROM ALL THOSE --

MONEY FROM ALL THOSE ISLAMIC

COUNTRIES WHERE WOMEN'S RIGHTS

ARE NONEXISTENT.

>> THERE IS A SHARED PROBLEM AND

THAT IS THE CONTROL OF

INFORMATION AND THAT WILL BE AN

ISSUE.

PROGRESSIVES TALK MUCH MORE

ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND SHE IS

GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME AND

THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA

WILL TREAT HER I THINK WE'VE

SEEN THE MEDIA TREAT HER POORLY

IN THE PAST.

>> MOST HIGH PROFILE WOMEN CARLY

FUR RINA AND MEG WHITMAN AS

WELL.

>> RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW I WAS

SHARING WITH A PRODUCER A NEW

ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT BY A

PROFESSOR AND THEY ANALYZED 600

CONGRESSIONAL RACES WHERE THEY

FOUND THAT GENDER DID NOT HAVE A

STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT

ON PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS OF THE

CANDIDATES.

IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR A WOMAN TO

BE RUNNING.

SHE HAS THE EAR OF THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE AND THE MEDIA WILL GIVE

HER A FAIR SHOT.

>> FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER

@BONNIEERBE AND LET US KNOW WHAT

YOU THINK.

FROM THE CLINTON PRESIDENTIAL

BID TO THE PAY GAP.

WHILE WOMEN OUTNUMBER MEMBER AS

STUDENTS IN THE NATION'S LIBERAL

ARTS COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES,

GENDER EINQUALITY IS A FACTOR.

FOR FREE MAIL PROFESSORS AND

STAFF.

THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER

EDUCATION REPORTS WOMEN MADE UP

30% OF FULL-TIME PROFESSOR IN

2013, AND ANALYSIS OF THE DATA

SHOWS WOMEN MAKE LESS THAN THE

MALE COLLEAGUES AND MORE LIKELY

TO BE PART-TIME ADJUNCT FACULTY

THAN FULL-TIME AND THAT IS

EVIDENT IN THE LIBERAL IVY

LEAGUE SCHOOLS.

HARVARD WHICH HAS A WOMAN

PRESIDENT AND WOMEN IN PUBLIC

POLICY PROGRAM PAYS MALE

PROFESSOR $15,000 MORE THAN

FEMALES.

GENDER PAY GAPS WERE REVEALED IN

THE GOVERNMENT OFFICES OF

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HILLARY

CLINTON.

BOTH OF WHOM ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR

SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

SO THESE SO-CALLED WHAT THE

RIGHT WOULD CALL LIBERAL

INSTITUTIONS ANYWAY, AND

POLITICIANS, ARE THEMSELVES

ENGAGED IN PAYING WOMEN LESS

THAN THEY PAY MEN.

HOW MUCH --

P HILLARY CLINTON AS WELL.

HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM IS GOING

TO BE FOR HER AND HER

PRESIDENTIAL RUN?

>> IT IS A PROBLEM FOR DEMOCRATS

BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE IT PART

OF A CENTRAL POINT OF THE

CAMPAIGN TO WOMEN.

THE THINGS THAT PLAGUE THE

ECONOMY PLAGUE THE LIBERAL

INSTITUTIONS THAT WOMEN ARE

CHOOSING TO GO INTO WOMEN'S

STUDIES AND NOT PAID AS MUCH AS

THE PROFESSORS IN ECONOMICS OR

BUSINESS.

AND THAT MORE WOMEN ARE CHOOSING

TO WORK PART-TIME AND THINGS OF

THAT NATURE.

IF I TO GUESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

YOU ARE SEEING THE BIGGER ISSUE

IS MAYBE MEN SEEM TO BE STAYING

AROUND LONGER AND MAKING THEIR

WAY UP THE CHAIN LESS THAN

WOMEN.

BUT ALL OF THIS SEEMS THE AS WE

CAN EXPECT BUT BE CAREFUL IF

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE

CENTERPIECE OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.

>> SHOULD WOMEN BE DEMANDING OF

THE POLITICIANS --

I'M NOT SURPRISED ABOUT THE

OBAMA WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE HE

TALKS THE TALK.

BUT HILLARY CLINTON WALKS THE

WALK.

AND EVEN SO, HER STAFF --

>> I'M THINKING FIRE EVERYBODY

FROM EVERYWHERE AND HIRE THEM

AGAIN.

AND THERE IS A BIT OF APPLES AND

ORANGES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT

THE SAME POSITION THE PAY

INEQUITIES ARE NOT THERE IN THE

WHITE HOUSE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ANALYZE

ON HILLARY'S TEAM.

AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING

YOU GIVE US THE GLOBAL NUMBERS

AND WE WILL DO THE ANALYSIS ON

YOU.

THE TRUE ANALYSIS ON PAY EQUITY

IS CAREER SPECIFIC BECAUSE SOME

CAREERS HAVE A MORE BIGGER GAP

THAN OTHERS.

>> IT'S USUALLY THE DIFFERENTS

THAT GRADUATE SCHOOL RIGHT OUT

OF COLLEGE, I SHOULD SAY OR

GRADUATE SCHOOL PEOPLE MAKE MEN

THAN WOMEN MAKE CLOSE SALARIES

BUT 40s AND 50s THAT THE

REAL GAPS START TO EMERGE.

>> EXACTLY.

AND IF YOU STAY IN THE WORKPLACE

I AM AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, I NEVER

LEFT THE WORKPLACE I'M DOING

BETTER THAN MY FRIENDS THAT LEFT

THE WORKPLACE TO RAISE THEIR

CHILDREN BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY.

AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT ARE

REAL AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT

EVERY JOB, EVERYWHERE, WE SHOULD

NOT BELITTLE THE ISSUE IT IS A

CRITICAL ISSUE AND THE

REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO GET

RID OF IT AND I THINK IT'S REAL.

>> IT'S ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS.

AND THE FACT IS THAT MORE WOMEN

ARE ADJUNCTS.

PEOPLE CANNOT GET JOBS.

SO YOU HAVE PHD'S GETTING TWO OR

THREEP ATTORNEYS SITTING THERE

TRYING TO GET A JOB.

ECONOMICALLY IF THE OLDER

FACULTY WHO TENURED DO NOT LEAVE

THE SCHOOLS CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY

A TENURED FACULTY MEMBER AND

TENURE TRACK PERSON WHETHER A

MAN OR WOMAN.

AND ALSO WITH THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT THEY HAVE A QUIRKY

SYSTEM WITH GRADES AND STEPS IT

DEPENDS HOW THE PERSON IS HIRED

IN.

IF YOU ARE HIRED IN 15 VERSUS 13

YOU WILL MAKE MORE MONEY AND

IT'S ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE

INDIVIDUAL.

>> THE BEST RESPONSE A

BIPARTISAN RESPONSE IS TO GROW

THE ECONOMY AND JOB CREATION.

WHEN YOU HAVE MORE JOBS YOU HAVE

MORE COMPETITION OF

WINSTON-SALEMS AND EVERYBODY

DOES BETTER AND I HOPE BOTH

PARTIES CAN GET BEHIND.

>> AND PROGRESSIVES HAVE BEEN

CLOSING THE JENTER PAY GAP.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS --

GENDER PAY GROUP.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS APPOINTED

MANY WOMEN TO TOP POSITIONS IN

THE ADMINISTRATION.

>> 35% OF THE CABINET AND BILL

CLINTON 41% WOMEN.

SO STATISTICALLY SPEAKING HE IS

NOT WHERE HE SHOULD BE?

>> BUT HIS NATIONAL SECURITY

ADVISER, THE CHIEF OF STAFF ALL

WOMEN.

AND HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN A

FORCE BEHIND THE PAYCHECK

FAIRNESS ACT AND HAS BEEN

WORKING SO HARD FOR MANY YEARS

TO CLOSE THE GAP.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL

ABOUT THESE STATISTICS.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST

IMPEDIMENTS TO CLOSING THE

GENDER PAY GAP IS DENYING THAT

THERE IS A GAP.

WHICH WE SEE A LOT OF FROM THE

CONSERVATIVE SIDE.

>> AND I WANT TO JUMP IN AND SAY

I THINK REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS

WERE WRONG OR CONSERVATIVES WERE

WRONG TO MAYBE SEEM AS THOUGH

THEY WERE DISMISSING IT.

BUT THEY WERE DISMISSING THAT

WOMEN ARE PAID 77 CENTS ON THE

DOLLAR.

EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAS ACCEPTED

THAT AND THAT IS A GROSS

OVERSTATEMENT AND IF WE LOOK AT

THE REAL WAGE GAP IT'S 4-6

CENTS.

AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT --

>> YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I SEE

REPUBLICANS WHO PERPETRATE THE

MYTH IT'S BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T

WORK AS MANY HOURS AS MEN.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS TRUE BUT

THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS

ALWAYS SAYS THIS IS AN HOUR BY

HOUR COMPARISON.

USING THE SHIELD OF WOMEN DO NOT

WORK AS MANY HOURS IS NOT

ACCURATEP IT COMES FROM

REPUBLICANS.

>> THERE MIGHT BE SOCIAL ISSUES,

BIOLOGICAL AND CHOICES ALL MAY

GO INTO BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST

HOW BIG THE GAP IS AND HOW MUCH

YOU CAN CHANGE IT.

WOMEN AND MEN ARE GOING TO WANT

DIFFERENT THINGS.

SOMEONE WORKED CONSISTENTLY IN

THE WORKPLACE.

>> AND YOU HAVE TOO.

>> NO, I WORKED PART-TIME AND

FULL-TIME AND DONE A VARIETY OF

THINGS.

>> BUT DID YOU TAKE TIME OFF?

>> I DID.

>> HOW MUCH?

>> I WORKED PART-TIME FROM HOME

FOR A WHILE.

>> BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM

TAKING 10 YEARS OFF.

AND WOMEN NEED TO KNOW THEY TRIP

THEMSELVES UP REALLY BADLY WHEN

THEY DO THAT.

>> AND THE LARGER POINT IS WE

NEED TO CHANGE WORKPLACE

STRUCTURES TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE

WOMEN AND FAMILIES.

AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN LEADING

THAT CHARGE.

>> JUST WANTED TO SAY WE --

NOT THAT I'M BLAMING WOMEN BUT

WE TALK ABOUT EMPOWERMENT.

LIKE A MAN GOES TO AN INTERVIEW

AND SAYS I WILL ONLY ACCEPT THIS

AND THAT AS WOMEN I DON'T KNOW

IF WE ARE THAT AGGRESSIVE AND

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD

ADDRESS.

>> TRAINING ON THAT IS IN ORDER.

RISKY CASUAL SEX PRACTICES AMONG

COLLEGE STUDENTS.

NEW RESEARCH ON COLLEGE STUDENTS

AND SEXUAL BEHAVIOR SHOWS A

DISTURBING TREND.

ACCORDING TO A NEW YORK VERSE

CITY RESEARCHER DURING THEIR

FRESHMAN YEAR STUDENTS FROM LOW

INCOME LESS EDUCATED FAMILIES

WERE MORE LIKELY TO USE CONDOMS

THAN THOSE FROM MORE HIGHLY

EDUCATED BACKGROUNDS.

BUT ON CAMPUS THE BEHAVIOR

BECOMES RISKIER.

LOW INCOME STUDENTS ADOPT THE

ATTITUDES OF THE HIGH INCOME

PEERS LESS WORRIED ABOUT

CONTRACTING AN STD OR BECOMING

PREGNANT.

A REPORT RELEASED SHOWS TEEN

PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW

FINDING THAT 90% OF TEENS USE

BIRTH CONTROL.

SO 90% OF TEENS ARE USING IT.

AND THEN IT DROPS AND DROPS AS

THEY GET INTO COLLEGE AND BECOME

PARTICULARLY SOPHOMORES FROM

FRESHMEN.

WHY IS IT AND WHY PARTICULARLY

ARE KIDS FROM HIGHER BETTER

EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT

BACKGROUNDS HAVING THINKING THAT

HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX IS

SOMEHOW OK?

>> WELL, IT COMES FROM THE

COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE RAISED IN

OR THAT YOU GROW UP IN.

SO IF YOU ARE RAISED TO THINK

THAT WELL, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE

THE RIGHT PERSON IT IS OK THEN

THERE IS A PROBLEM.

I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT WHY

THEY DON'T --

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOOKUPS.

TALKING ABOUT THE CASUAL ONE

TIME, TWO TIME THING.

AND THAT THOUGHT IT REALLY

FRIGHTENS ME THAT THEY ARE NOT

CONCERNED ABOUT STD'S.

I GUESS THEY FEEL IF SHE IS ON

THE PILL OR SOME BIRTH CONTROL

THEN SHE WILL NOT GET PREGNANT

AND NOT THINKING ABOUT THE

BIGGER RAMIFICATION.

>> DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO

WITH THE FACT THAT AIDS WHEN IT

FIRST STARTED HAPPENING IN THE

80s OR FIRST BECAME PUBLIC IT

WAS AN EPIDEMIC IN THE 80s WAS

A DEATH SENTENCE AND NOW IT'S

NOT.

SO I MEAN, STILL NOT ANYTHING

ANYBODY WANTS TO CONTRACT,

BELIEVE ME, BUT IT DOESN'T KILL

YOU.

THERE IS MEDICATION FOR IT.

IS THAT WHY A LOT OF THE YOUNG

PEOPLE ARE SAYING WELL, THE

WORST THING HAPPENS I GET AIDS

AND GO ON A COCKTAIL.

>> YOU SEE THERE'S TWO ISSUES

CONTRACEPTION AND PREGNANCY AND

THE MESSAGE ON PREGNANCY IS FOR

EDUCATED GIRLS IS STRONG AND

CONSISTENT AND THE BIRTH RATES

TEENAGE PREGNANCY RATES IN THE

UNITED STATES HAVE GONE DOWN.

SO THAT IS THE POSITIVE SIDE OF

THE STORY.

WHAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IS

BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF

THE PREGNANCY THEY ARE NOT AS

WORRIED ABOUT THE STD'S AND

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT

STRATEGIES BECAUSE THE CONDOM IS

ABOUT THE STD'S.

>> AND YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS

AND MADE A CAREER IN EDUCATING

YOUNG PEOPLE.

HOW DO YOU REVERSE THAT?

>> I MEAN --

>> I AM ASSUMING IN PUBLIC

SCHOOLS THERE IS FOR THE MOST

PART SEX EDUCATION AND IT'S NOT

ABSTINENCE ONLY.

WHERE IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS I DON'T

KNOW IF THEY OFFER OR REQUIRE

SEX EDUCATION AS MUCH AS PUBLIC

SCHOOLS DO.

SO I'M THINKING AS A POSSIBILITY

THAT THESE THE MORE AFFLUENT

KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF PUBLIC

SCHOOLS WHERE THEY DON'T --

PRIVATE SCHOOLS RATHER WHERE

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD USE

CONDOMS AS KIDS ARE TOLD LESS

AFFLUENT KIDS ARE BEING TOLD IN

PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

>> MY KIDS GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL

AND I THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD THE

STORY THE OPPOSITE.

THAT I AM SO CONFIDENT THAT THEY

ARE TEACHING THEM ABOUT SEX

EDUCATION BUT I HAD GONE TO THE

PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE AND

[INAUDIBLE]

SO IN THE SENSE THAT I'M

SURROUNDED IN A COMMUNITY AT

RISK, I DON'T MY KIDS DON'T FEEL

THAT THEY ARE AT RISK BECAUSE

THEY DON'T LIVE IN A COMMUNITY

AT RISK.

AND I THINK YOU NEED THAT REAL

THREAT TO ACT IN THE CASE OF

THIS.

>> ONE NIGHT STANDS AS WE

OLDTIMERS USED TO CALL IT.

>> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING

LISTENING TO YOU ABOUT THIS

BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO IF

ANYONE READ RETURN TO MODESTY,

THE MORE WE OFFER SEX ED THE

MORE IT ENCOURAGES A PROMISCUOUS

CULTURE.

WE CANNOT IGNORE IT AND THERE'S

STUFF FOR CHILDREN TO KNOW AND

UNDERSTAND AND PERHAPS WE HAVE

GONE TOO FAR AND THAT KIDS HAVE

BEGUN TO TUNE IT OUT AS THE

CULTURE IS OFFENSE SEXUALIZED AS

YOUNG WOMEN PERHAPS SOME IS NOW

BECOME THE SENSE COMBINATION OF

YOUNG PEOPLE'S SINCE OF BEING

INVISIBLE WITH AN OVER SAT

OURRATION OF SEXUAL AND THESE

ARE SERIOUS DISEASES AND

PROBLEMS.

>> STUDIES SHOW THAT YOUNG

PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO

PROTECT THEMSELVES.

THEY WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE

INFORMATION.

AND TEENAGE PREGNANCY IS AT AN

ALL-TIME LOW.

>> DOESN'T THAT SHOW THAT THEY

ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR

THE MOST PART?

>> IT DOES SHOW THAT.

AND IT SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO

CONTINUE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE

SEXUAL EDUCATION AND WE NEED TO

MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND AND HAVE ACCESS TO

THE FULL RANGE OF REPRODUCTIVE

OPTIONS.

THAT IS PART OF EQUALITY.

>> WHY THE SPLIT --

FIRST OF ALL, WHY ARE MORE

EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT KIDS LESS

AWARE OF THE DANGERS TO THEM AND

ACTING LIKE THERE IS NOT AS MUCH

AND WHY DO LOWER INCOME KIDS GO

TO COLLEGE AND MEET THESE

SUPPOSEDLY SMARTER PEOPLE, AND

DECIDE TO ADOPT THEIR STUPID WAY

OF LIFE?

>> WELL, THERE'S PROBABLY A

RANGE OF SOCIAL FACTORS GOING

INTO THAT.

PERHAPS PEER PRESSURE PLAYS A

ROLE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF

COMPLEX FACTORS GOING INTO THAT.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TEENAGE

PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW

AND WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE

SEX ED.

>> THANK YOU.

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