FOUNDATION AND THE CHARLES A.
FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE
CONTRARY...
HILLARY CLINTON MAKES IT
OFFICIAL.
THEN...
THE PAY GAP IN PLACES CALLING
FOR AN END TO THE PAY GAP.
THEN COLLEGE STUDENTS SEXUAL
PRACTICES HEAD SOUTH.
[♪♪♪♪♪♪]
>> HELLO I'M BONNIE ERBE WELCOME
TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF
NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM
DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, HILLARY READY TO RUN.
USING SOCIAL MEDIA, VIDEO AND
E-MAIL, HILLARY CLINTON WILL
LAUNCH HER 2016 CAMPAIGN FOR
PRESIDENT.
AFTER THE DIGITAL KICKOFF, SHE
WILL BEGIN CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA
WHERE SHE FINISHED THIRD IN
2008.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS LONG
ANTICIPATED AND NO SURPRISE.
CLINTON HAS BEEN DROPPING HINTS
ABOUT HER INTENTIONS FOR
SOMETIME.
>> DON'T YOU SOME DAY WANT TO
SEE A WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
[APPLAUSE]
WELL, IN MANY WAYS...
ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS...
ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS CAN ONLY
BE ANSWERED BY YOU.
>> OK.
WILL YOU OR WOMEN THE YOU OF
WOMEN, ELECT, ELECT HILLARY
PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE IS INDEED
WHOOOING THE WOMEN'S VOTE.
>> IN 201255% OF THE WOMEN VOTED
FOR OBAMA AND ALL THE ANALYSTS
AGREED THE WOMEN DELIVERED THE
PREP SI FOR HIM.
>> AND SUBSTANCE MATTERS MORE
THAN GENDER AND I WILL PUT MY
MONEY ON THAT FOR 2016.
>> I THINK HILLARY IS POPULAR
BUT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE NOT
ONLY BE THE FIRST WOMAN
PRESIDENT BUT SHE HAS A TRACK
RECORD ON BEING GOOD ON THE
WOMEN'S ISSUES AND HUGELY
POPULAR AMONG MILLENNIALS AND
THAT WILL PUT HER IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
>> IF SHE CAN GET PAST THE
SCANDALS AND DOES NOT HAVE A
SURPRISE SHE MAY DO IT.
>> YOU SAY SUBSTANCE MATTERS
ABOVE GENDER.
BUT YOU DON'T THINK SHE HAS
SUBSTANCE?
>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, I THINK
I DISAGREE WITH HILLARY CLINTON
ON 90% OF WHAT SHE STANDS FOR
WHETHER IT'S THE WORKPLACE,
ENERGY, HEALTHCARE.
BUT WHAT I THINK SHE IS MOST
VULNERABLE IS BEING OVERHANDLED.
THIS WEEK ALONE, I HEARD PUNDITS
TALK ABOUT OLD HILLARY, NEW
HILLARY, AND WHAT I WANTED TO
SAY GO AWAY AND THINK ABOUT THE
THINGS THAT YOU STAND FOR AND
COME BACK AS YOURSELF.
IF YOU DO THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS BUT YOU HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE OF WINNING.
>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU ARE
SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE LAUNCH
SOMETHING ON-LINE THROUGH SOCIAL
MEDIA FOLLOWED UP WITH WHAT THEY
ARE DESCRIBING ARE MORE
MEETINGS.
AND FOR PEOPLE THAT KNOW
HILLARY, I DID WORK FOR THE
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SO I HAVE
BEEN EXPOSED TO HER THAT IS HER
SES SET.
ON ONE ONE SHE IS POWERFUL.
SHE IS SUBSTANTIVE.
WE DIFFER THIS IS A WOMAN OF
SUBSTANCE WITH AN IMPECCABLE
TRACK RECORD.
THINGS HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN
PERFECT.
FOR ME THE LAUNCHING IS TELLING
SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE AND
SHE WILL DO IT VERY, VERY
DIFFERENTLY.
THIS IS HER IN HER MID-60s
LAUNCHING HER CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL
MEDIA AND TO HER STRENGTH THEIR
PERSONAL ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE
OF ISSUES.
>> WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT
LAUNCHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA?
IT'S NOW AND TODAY.
BUT AS UP WITH WHO COVERED MANY
PRESIDENTIAL LAUNCHES WHEN I WAS
A DAILY NEWS REPORTER, IT LACKS
AN EVENT.
IT LACKS THE EXCITEMENT, I
THINK.
>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY
THIS IS A SURPRISE AT ALL.
SHE OPENED HEADQUARTERS OR
SIGNED A LEASE ON A HEADQUARTERS
IN BROOKLINE HEIGHTS VERY
AFFLUENT PART OF NEW YORK CITY.
HER PEOPLE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY
ARE DOING.
THEY ARE BUILDING IT UP AND
DOING THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS
BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES SOCIAL
MEDIA AND IT'S WHAT SHE IS GOING
TO DO ONCE SHE MADE THE
ANNOUNCEMENT WHETHER IT'S
SIGNIFICANT OR NOT.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE WHOOOING
WOMEN?
SHE NEEDS TO WALK A TIGHT ROPE
SHE CANNOT OFFEND MEN, OF COURSE
BUT CLEARLY SHE IS APPEALING TO
WOMEN AND SHE HAS BEEN A WOMAN'S
WOMANS A POLITICIAN.
CAN THAT HURT HER?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK IT IS A GREAT ASSET AND
SHE IS POPULAR NOW AMONG YOUNG
WOMEN.
AS COCHAIR OF THE NATIONAL READY
FOR HILLARY MILLENNIAL COUNCIL
FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AROUND
THE COUNTRY WE HAVE BEEN SEEING
YOUNG PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT
HILLARY.
WE HAVE THROWN 1300 GRASSROOTS
EVENTS JAM PACKED WITH YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT
HER.
>> WILL IT BE LIKE THE OBAMA
EFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE?
>> VERY MUCH.
SO I THINK YOUNG ORGANIZERS WHO
GREW UP WITH OBAMA ARE EXCITED
ALSO ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON.
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK --
YOU MENTIONED THE 2014
ELECTIONS, HOW MUCH THE OFF
PRESIDENTIAL YEAR WHEN VOTER
TURNOUT WAS EXTREMELY LOW.
HOW MUCH CAN YOU GAUGE HER
CHANCES OF PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESS
BASED ON 2014 WHEN THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE DRAWS OUT A
THE MORE PEOPLE.
HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE IS ALWAYS A
QUESTION AND AN IMPORTANT
QUESTION.
BUT STILL YOU KNOW YOU WILL HAVE
BIGGER TURNOUT.
>> WE WILL ON BOTH SIDES, OF
COURSE.
ONE THING TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS
2014 WAS A CONTENTIOUS RACE AND
THERE WERE A LOT OF RACES
FOCUSED ON THE WOMEN'S VOTE.
AND FOR THE CONVERSATION
NATIONALLY, THEY TOOK IT IN THE
WRONG DIRECTION.
THE DEMOCRATS RUNNING ON IT
PEOPLE LIKE COLORADO THEY
OVERPLAYED THEIR HAPPENED AND
MORE WOMEN WERE SAYING WE HAVE
REAL ECONOMIC ISSUES AND
OBAMACARE AND THINGS ARE LOOK
TERRIBLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND
WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS WE DON'T
WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
>> LET ME JUMP IN.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
HOWEVER, THE MOTIVATED SIDE WERE
THE REPUBLICANS, THE CHRISTIAN
RIGHT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY
WERE OUT OF POWER.
AND YOU KNOW, UDALL GOT CALLED
SENATOR AND ALL THAT UGLY STUFF
HAPPENED.
SO YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT IT TURNED
OUT TO THE VOTERS WHO TURNED OUT
THAT --
IN THAT ELECTION IT WAS A LOSING
ISSUE.
WILL IT STAY A LOSING ISSUE WHEN
YOU HAVE MORE YOUNG AND
PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE GOING TO THE
POLLS?
>> I THINK IT WILL BUT THIS IS
WHERE I WOULD WARN REPUBLICANS.
THE WOMEN'S NARRATIVE IS GOING
TO CHANGE.
IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE
FOCUSED ON THE WORK LEAVE,
PAYCHECK FAIRNESS I THINK A LOT
OF REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PREPARED
THEY THINK IT IS GONE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK
THE G.O.P. HAS SOMETHING GOING
FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE RIGHT
NOW.
ALL WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND
TARGETING DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS
AND CAUSING A DEBATE BETWEEN
THEM WITHIN THE PARTY AND THAT
IS A HEALTHY THING FOR BOTH
REPUBLICANS AND THE COUNTRY AT
LARGE.
>> AND I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTERS
BUT NOT SURE SHE REALLY HAS A
HURDLE TO OVERCOME.
SHE LOST TO OBAMA.
SHE DID NOT RUN THE BEST
CAMPAIGN.
SHE DID NOT HAVE THE STRONGEST
TEAM EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD THE
MOST MONEY AT THAT TIME.
SHE HAS TO OVERCOME THE
BARRIERS.
>> HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?
>> SHE HAS TO ORGANIZE WELL AND
BE IN CHARGE OF HER TEAM.
SHE CANNOT OVEREXPOSE HERSELFP
SHE CANNOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT --
FOR CERTAIN SHE IS GOING TO WIN
THE PRESIDENCY.
SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT
EVERYDAY.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT DRAWING
MILLENNIALS AND WE ALL REMEMBER
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAVING THAT ROCK
STAR OR BEING GIVEN BY I WOULD
SAY THE MALE-DOMINATED LEFT THAT
HE HAD THIS ROCK STAR POWER.
IS ANY WOMAN GOING TO BE GIVEN
THAT POWER BY THE PROGRESSIVE
MEN IN THE COUNTRY WHO REALLY
HELPED GET OBAMA ELECTED THE
FIRST TIME?
>> I THINK SO.
AND I'M SEEING THAT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WITH THE
MILLENNIAL COUNCIL AND OUR
EVENTS FOR HILLARY.
OUR GENERATION GREW UP --
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL
LEADERS LIKE MARCUS, THE DAILY
CAUSE, AND YOUNG GUYS WHO ARE
OUT THERE EARLY SUPPORTERS OF
OBAMA.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK SINCE THE LAST ELECTION,
WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH FROM HILLARY.
SHE HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AS
SECRETARY OF STATE.
AND THE COUNTRY HAS GROWN READY
FOR HILLARY.
AND --
>> WHAT ABOUT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT E-MAIL SCANDAL HOW IS
THAT GOING TO PLAY?
>> I THINK THAT MOST AMERICANS
DON'T REALLY THINK THAT E-MAIL
ISSUE IS A BIG ISSUE.
THEY ARE MORE FOCUSED HOW WE ARE
GOING TO GROW THE MIDDLE CLASS
AND OUR ITCH YOU USES THAT
HILLARY HAS PROVE ESPECIALLY
THAT SHE IS STRONG ON.
>> YOU BRING UP THE SCANDAL,
THAT IS ONE MANY THAT SHE HAS
HAD AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
SO SHE IS SORT OF THE TEFLON
DAWN SHE CAN BOUNCE STUFF OFF.
BUT SOMEONE IS GOING TO SIT HER
DOWN AND SAY WHY DID THIS
HAPPEN?
AND SHE CANNOT ASSUME I'M GOING
TO BE THE NOMINEE.
SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT.
>> AND WHICH IS GOING TO DOG HER
MOST, THE E-MAIL SITUATION,
BENGHAZI, OR MY --
THE UP WITH I SEE AS HER
STRONGEST PROBLEM WHICH IS
TAKING THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
TAKING MOPE FROM ALL THOSE --
MONEY FROM ALL THOSE ISLAMIC
COUNTRIES WHERE WOMEN'S RIGHTS
ARE NONEXISTENT.
>> THERE IS A SHARED PROBLEM AND
THAT IS THE CONTROL OF
INFORMATION AND THAT WILL BE AN
ISSUE.
PROGRESSIVES TALK MUCH MORE
ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND SHE IS
GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME AND
THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA
WILL TREAT HER I THINK WE'VE
SEEN THE MEDIA TREAT HER POORLY
IN THE PAST.
>> MOST HIGH PROFILE WOMEN CARLY
FUR RINA AND MEG WHITMAN AS
WELL.
>> RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW I WAS
SHARING WITH A PRODUCER A NEW
ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT BY A
PROFESSOR AND THEY ANALYZED 600
CONGRESSIONAL RACES WHERE THEY
FOUND THAT GENDER DID NOT HAVE A
STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT
ON PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS OF THE
CANDIDATES.
IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR A WOMAN TO
BE RUNNING.
SHE HAS THE EAR OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND THE MEDIA WILL GIVE
HER A FAIR SHOT.
>> FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
@BONNIEERBE AND LET US KNOW WHAT
YOU THINK.
FROM THE CLINTON PRESIDENTIAL
BID TO THE PAY GAP.
WHILE WOMEN OUTNUMBER MEMBER AS
STUDENTS IN THE NATION'S LIBERAL
ARTS COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES,
GENDER EINQUALITY IS A FACTOR.
FOR FREE MAIL PROFESSORS AND
STAFF.
THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER
EDUCATION REPORTS WOMEN MADE UP
30% OF FULL-TIME PROFESSOR IN
2013, AND ANALYSIS OF THE DATA
SHOWS WOMEN MAKE LESS THAN THE
MALE COLLEAGUES AND MORE LIKELY
TO BE PART-TIME ADJUNCT FACULTY
THAN FULL-TIME AND THAT IS
EVIDENT IN THE LIBERAL IVY
LEAGUE SCHOOLS.
HARVARD WHICH HAS A WOMAN
PRESIDENT AND WOMEN IN PUBLIC
POLICY PROGRAM PAYS MALE
PROFESSOR $15,000 MORE THAN
FEMALES.
GENDER PAY GAPS WERE REVEALED IN
THE GOVERNMENT OFFICES OF
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HILLARY
CLINTON.
BOTH OF WHOM ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR
SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
SO THESE SO-CALLED WHAT THE
RIGHT WOULD CALL LIBERAL
INSTITUTIONS ANYWAY, AND
POLITICIANS, ARE THEMSELVES
ENGAGED IN PAYING WOMEN LESS
THAN THEY PAY MEN.
HOW MUCH --
P HILLARY CLINTON AS WELL.
HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM IS GOING
TO BE FOR HER AND HER
PRESIDENTIAL RUN?
>> IT IS A PROBLEM FOR DEMOCRATS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE IT PART
OF A CENTRAL POINT OF THE
CAMPAIGN TO WOMEN.
THE THINGS THAT PLAGUE THE
ECONOMY PLAGUE THE LIBERAL
INSTITUTIONS THAT WOMEN ARE
CHOOSING TO GO INTO WOMEN'S
STUDIES AND NOT PAID AS MUCH AS
THE PROFESSORS IN ECONOMICS OR
BUSINESS.
AND THAT MORE WOMEN ARE CHOOSING
TO WORK PART-TIME AND THINGS OF
THAT NATURE.
IF I TO GUESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
YOU ARE SEEING THE BIGGER ISSUE
IS MAYBE MEN SEEM TO BE STAYING
AROUND LONGER AND MAKING THEIR
WAY UP THE CHAIN LESS THAN
WOMEN.
BUT ALL OF THIS SEEMS THE AS WE
CAN EXPECT BUT BE CAREFUL IF
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE
CENTERPIECE OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.
>> SHOULD WOMEN BE DEMANDING OF
THE POLITICIANS --
I'M NOT SURPRISED ABOUT THE
OBAMA WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE HE
TALKS THE TALK.
BUT HILLARY CLINTON WALKS THE
WALK.
AND EVEN SO, HER STAFF --
>> I'M THINKING FIRE EVERYBODY
FROM EVERYWHERE AND HIRE THEM
AGAIN.
AND THERE IS A BIT OF APPLES AND
ORANGES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE SAME POSITION THE PAY
INEQUITIES ARE NOT THERE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ANALYZE
ON HILLARY'S TEAM.
AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING
YOU GIVE US THE GLOBAL NUMBERS
AND WE WILL DO THE ANALYSIS ON
YOU.
THE TRUE ANALYSIS ON PAY EQUITY
IS CAREER SPECIFIC BECAUSE SOME
CAREERS HAVE A MORE BIGGER GAP
THAN OTHERS.
>> IT'S USUALLY THE DIFFERENTS
THAT GRADUATE SCHOOL RIGHT OUT
OF COLLEGE, I SHOULD SAY OR
GRADUATE SCHOOL PEOPLE MAKE MEN
THAN WOMEN MAKE CLOSE SALARIES
BUT 40s AND 50s THAT THE
REAL GAPS START TO EMERGE.
>> EXACTLY.
AND IF YOU STAY IN THE WORKPLACE
I AM AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, I NEVER
LEFT THE WORKPLACE I'M DOING
BETTER THAN MY FRIENDS THAT LEFT
THE WORKPLACE TO RAISE THEIR
CHILDREN BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY.
AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT ARE
REAL AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT
EVERY JOB, EVERYWHERE, WE SHOULD
NOT BELITTLE THE ISSUE IT IS A
CRITICAL ISSUE AND THE
REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO GET
RID OF IT AND I THINK IT'S REAL.
>> IT'S ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS.
AND THE FACT IS THAT MORE WOMEN
ARE ADJUNCTS.
PEOPLE CANNOT GET JOBS.
SO YOU HAVE PHD'S GETTING TWO OR
THREEP ATTORNEYS SITTING THERE
TRYING TO GET A JOB.
ECONOMICALLY IF THE OLDER
FACULTY WHO TENURED DO NOT LEAVE
THE SCHOOLS CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY
A TENURED FACULTY MEMBER AND
TENURE TRACK PERSON WHETHER A
MAN OR WOMAN.
AND ALSO WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT THEY HAVE A QUIRKY
SYSTEM WITH GRADES AND STEPS IT
DEPENDS HOW THE PERSON IS HIRED
IN.
IF YOU ARE HIRED IN 15 VERSUS 13
YOU WILL MAKE MORE MONEY AND
IT'S ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE
INDIVIDUAL.
>> THE BEST RESPONSE A
BIPARTISAN RESPONSE IS TO GROW
THE ECONOMY AND JOB CREATION.
WHEN YOU HAVE MORE JOBS YOU HAVE
MORE COMPETITION OF
WINSTON-SALEMS AND EVERYBODY
DOES BETTER AND I HOPE BOTH
PARTIES CAN GET BEHIND.
>> AND PROGRESSIVES HAVE BEEN
CLOSING THE JENTER PAY GAP.
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS --
GENDER PAY GROUP.
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS APPOINTED
MANY WOMEN TO TOP POSITIONS IN
THE ADMINISTRATION.
>> 35% OF THE CABINET AND BILL
CLINTON 41% WOMEN.
SO STATISTICALLY SPEAKING HE IS
NOT WHERE HE SHOULD BE?
>> BUT HIS NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISER, THE CHIEF OF STAFF ALL
WOMEN.
AND HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN A
FORCE BEHIND THE PAYCHECK
FAIRNESS ACT AND HAS BEEN
WORKING SO HARD FOR MANY YEARS
TO CLOSE THE GAP.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL
ABOUT THESE STATISTICS.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST
IMPEDIMENTS TO CLOSING THE
GENDER PAY GAP IS DENYING THAT
THERE IS A GAP.
WHICH WE SEE A LOT OF FROM THE
CONSERVATIVE SIDE.
>> AND I WANT TO JUMP IN AND SAY
I THINK REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS
WERE WRONG OR CONSERVATIVES WERE
WRONG TO MAYBE SEEM AS THOUGH
THEY WERE DISMISSING IT.
BUT THEY WERE DISMISSING THAT
WOMEN ARE PAID 77 CENTS ON THE
DOLLAR.
EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAS ACCEPTED
THAT AND THAT IS A GROSS
OVERSTATEMENT AND IF WE LOOK AT
THE REAL WAGE GAP IT'S 4-6
CENTS.
AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT --
>> YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I SEE
REPUBLICANS WHO PERPETRATE THE
MYTH IT'S BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T
WORK AS MANY HOURS AS MEN.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS TRUE BUT
THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
ALWAYS SAYS THIS IS AN HOUR BY
HOUR COMPARISON.
USING THE SHIELD OF WOMEN DO NOT
WORK AS MANY HOURS IS NOT
ACCURATEP IT COMES FROM
REPUBLICANS.
>> THERE MIGHT BE SOCIAL ISSUES,
BIOLOGICAL AND CHOICES ALL MAY
GO INTO BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST
HOW BIG THE GAP IS AND HOW MUCH
YOU CAN CHANGE IT.
WOMEN AND MEN ARE GOING TO WANT
DIFFERENT THINGS.
SOMEONE WORKED CONSISTENTLY IN
THE WORKPLACE.
>> AND YOU HAVE TOO.
>> NO, I WORKED PART-TIME AND
FULL-TIME AND DONE A VARIETY OF
THINGS.
>> BUT DID YOU TAKE TIME OFF?
>> I DID.
>> HOW MUCH?
>> I WORKED PART-TIME FROM HOME
FOR A WHILE.
>> BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM
TAKING 10 YEARS OFF.
AND WOMEN NEED TO KNOW THEY TRIP
THEMSELVES UP REALLY BADLY WHEN
THEY DO THAT.
>> AND THE LARGER POINT IS WE
NEED TO CHANGE WORKPLACE
STRUCTURES TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE
WOMEN AND FAMILIES.
AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN LEADING
THAT CHARGE.
>> JUST WANTED TO SAY WE --
NOT THAT I'M BLAMING WOMEN BUT
WE TALK ABOUT EMPOWERMENT.
LIKE A MAN GOES TO AN INTERVIEW
AND SAYS I WILL ONLY ACCEPT THIS
AND THAT AS WOMEN I DON'T KNOW
IF WE ARE THAT AGGRESSIVE AND
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD
ADDRESS.
>> TRAINING ON THAT IS IN ORDER.
RISKY CASUAL SEX PRACTICES AMONG
COLLEGE STUDENTS.
NEW RESEARCH ON COLLEGE STUDENTS
AND SEXUAL BEHAVIOR SHOWS A
DISTURBING TREND.
ACCORDING TO A NEW YORK VERSE
CITY RESEARCHER DURING THEIR
FRESHMAN YEAR STUDENTS FROM LOW
INCOME LESS EDUCATED FAMILIES
WERE MORE LIKELY TO USE CONDOMS
THAN THOSE FROM MORE HIGHLY
EDUCATED BACKGROUNDS.
BUT ON CAMPUS THE BEHAVIOR
BECOMES RISKIER.
LOW INCOME STUDENTS ADOPT THE
ATTITUDES OF THE HIGH INCOME
PEERS LESS WORRIED ABOUT
CONTRACTING AN STD OR BECOMING
PREGNANT.
A REPORT RELEASED SHOWS TEEN
PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW
FINDING THAT 90% OF TEENS USE
BIRTH CONTROL.
SO 90% OF TEENS ARE USING IT.
AND THEN IT DROPS AND DROPS AS
THEY GET INTO COLLEGE AND BECOME
PARTICULARLY SOPHOMORES FROM
FRESHMEN.
WHY IS IT AND WHY PARTICULARLY
ARE KIDS FROM HIGHER BETTER
EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT
BACKGROUNDS HAVING THINKING THAT
HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX IS
SOMEHOW OK?
>> WELL, IT COMES FROM THE
COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE RAISED IN
OR THAT YOU GROW UP IN.
SO IF YOU ARE RAISED TO THINK
THAT WELL, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE
THE RIGHT PERSON IT IS OK THEN
THERE IS A PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT WHY
THEY DON'T --
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOOKUPS.
TALKING ABOUT THE CASUAL ONE
TIME, TWO TIME THING.
AND THAT THOUGHT IT REALLY
FRIGHTENS ME THAT THEY ARE NOT
CONCERNED ABOUT STD'S.
I GUESS THEY FEEL IF SHE IS ON
THE PILL OR SOME BIRTH CONTROL
THEN SHE WILL NOT GET PREGNANT
AND NOT THINKING ABOUT THE
BIGGER RAMIFICATION.
>> DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO
WITH THE FACT THAT AIDS WHEN IT
FIRST STARTED HAPPENING IN THE
80s OR FIRST BECAME PUBLIC IT
WAS AN EPIDEMIC IN THE 80s WAS
A DEATH SENTENCE AND NOW IT'S
NOT.
SO I MEAN, STILL NOT ANYTHING
ANYBODY WANTS TO CONTRACT,
BELIEVE ME, BUT IT DOESN'T KILL
YOU.
THERE IS MEDICATION FOR IT.
IS THAT WHY A LOT OF THE YOUNG
PEOPLE ARE SAYING WELL, THE
WORST THING HAPPENS I GET AIDS
AND GO ON A COCKTAIL.
>> YOU SEE THERE'S TWO ISSUES
CONTRACEPTION AND PREGNANCY AND
THE MESSAGE ON PREGNANCY IS FOR
EDUCATED GIRLS IS STRONG AND
CONSISTENT AND THE BIRTH RATES
TEENAGE PREGNANCY RATES IN THE
UNITED STATES HAVE GONE DOWN.
SO THAT IS THE POSITIVE SIDE OF
THE STORY.
WHAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IS
BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF
THE PREGNANCY THEY ARE NOT AS
WORRIED ABOUT THE STD'S AND
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT
STRATEGIES BECAUSE THE CONDOM IS
ABOUT THE STD'S.
>> AND YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS
AND MADE A CAREER IN EDUCATING
YOUNG PEOPLE.
HOW DO YOU REVERSE THAT?
>> I MEAN --
>> I AM ASSUMING IN PUBLIC
SCHOOLS THERE IS FOR THE MOST
PART SEX EDUCATION AND IT'S NOT
ABSTINENCE ONLY.
WHERE IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS I DON'T
KNOW IF THEY OFFER OR REQUIRE
SEX EDUCATION AS MUCH AS PUBLIC
SCHOOLS DO.
SO I'M THINKING AS A POSSIBILITY
THAT THESE THE MORE AFFLUENT
KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF PUBLIC
SCHOOLS WHERE THEY DON'T --
PRIVATE SCHOOLS RATHER WHERE
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD USE
CONDOMS AS KIDS ARE TOLD LESS
AFFLUENT KIDS ARE BEING TOLD IN
PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
>> MY KIDS GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL
AND I THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD THE
STORY THE OPPOSITE.
THAT I AM SO CONFIDENT THAT THEY
ARE TEACHING THEM ABOUT SEX
EDUCATION BUT I HAD GONE TO THE
PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE AND
[INAUDIBLE]
SO IN THE SENSE THAT I'M
SURROUNDED IN A COMMUNITY AT
RISK, I DON'T MY KIDS DON'T FEEL
THAT THEY ARE AT RISK BECAUSE
THEY DON'T LIVE IN A COMMUNITY
AT RISK.
AND I THINK YOU NEED THAT REAL
THREAT TO ACT IN THE CASE OF
THIS.
>> ONE NIGHT STANDS AS WE
OLDTIMERS USED TO CALL IT.
>> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING
LISTENING TO YOU ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO IF
ANYONE READ RETURN TO MODESTY,
THE MORE WE OFFER SEX ED THE
MORE IT ENCOURAGES A PROMISCUOUS
CULTURE.
WE CANNOT IGNORE IT AND THERE'S
STUFF FOR CHILDREN TO KNOW AND
UNDERSTAND AND PERHAPS WE HAVE
GONE TOO FAR AND THAT KIDS HAVE
BEGUN TO TUNE IT OUT AS THE
CULTURE IS OFFENSE SEXUALIZED AS
YOUNG WOMEN PERHAPS SOME IS NOW
BECOME THE SENSE COMBINATION OF
YOUNG PEOPLE'S SINCE OF BEING
INVISIBLE WITH AN OVER SAT
OURRATION OF SEXUAL AND THESE
ARE SERIOUS DISEASES AND
PROBLEMS.
>> STUDIES SHOW THAT YOUNG
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES.
THEY WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE
INFORMATION.
AND TEENAGE PREGNANCY IS AT AN
ALL-TIME LOW.
>> DOESN'T THAT SHOW THAT THEY
ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR
THE MOST PART?
>> IT DOES SHOW THAT.
AND IT SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO
CONTINUE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
SEXUAL EDUCATION AND WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND AND HAVE ACCESS TO
THE FULL RANGE OF REPRODUCTIVE
OPTIONS.
THAT IS PART OF EQUALITY.
>> WHY THE SPLIT --
FIRST OF ALL, WHY ARE MORE
EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT KIDS LESS
AWARE OF THE DANGERS TO THEM AND
ACTING LIKE THERE IS NOT AS MUCH
AND WHY DO LOWER INCOME KIDS GO
TO COLLEGE AND MEET THESE
SUPPOSEDLY SMARTER PEOPLE, AND
DECIDE TO ADOPT THEIR STUPID WAY
OF LIFE?
>> WELL, THERE'S PROBABLY A
RANGE OF SOCIAL FACTORS GOING
INTO THAT.
PERHAPS PEER PRESSURE PLAYS A
ROLE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF
COMPLEX FACTORS GOING INTO THAT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TEENAGE
PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW
AND WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE
SEX ED.
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