1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,466 FOUNDATION. 2 00:00:01,533 --> 00:00:04,033 >> Bonnie: THIS WEEK ON TO THE 3 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:05,433 CONTRARY: FIRST, ABORTION RATES 4 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:06,533 ARE DOWN, BUT THE RATE OF 5 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,000 SELF-INDUCED ABORTIONS IS UP. 6 00:00:09,066 --> 00:00:11,366 THEN, THE DEBATE OVER PRONOUNS: 7 00:00:11,433 --> 00:00:13,466 SHOULD THEY BE GENDER NEUTRAL? 8 00:00:13,533 --> 00:00:15,000 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN, 9 00:00:15,066 --> 00:00:35,100 GIRLS AND FINANCIAL LITERACY. 10 00:00:35,166 --> 00:00:35,833 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. WELCOME 11 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:36,766 TO bO THE CONTRARY,b 12 00:00:36,766 --> 00:00:37,833 DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL A 13 00:00:37,833 --> 00:00:38,366 TRENDS FROM DIVERSE 14 00:00:38,433 --> 00:00:39,033 PERSPECTIVES. UP FIRST, 15 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:46,100 SELF-INDUCED ABORTIONS . 16 00:00:46,166 --> 00:00:47,400 THE OVERALL RATE OF ABORTIONS 17 00:00:47,466 --> 00:00:48,833 IN THE UNITED STATES IS DOWN, 18 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:50,300 BUT MORE WOMEN ARE 19 00:00:50,366 --> 00:00:51,500 SELF-INDUCING ABORTIONS. THOSE 20 00:00:51,566 --> 00:00:53,033 ARE THE MAJOR FINDINGS FROM A 21 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:55,466 NEW REPORT PUBLISHED BY THE 22 00:00:55,533 --> 00:00:57,033 GUTTMACHER INSTITUTE. EIGHTEEN 23 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,700 PERCENT OF TREATMENT CENTERS 24 00:00:58,766 --> 00:01:00,800 REPORTED SEEING A PATIENT AFTER 25 00:01:00,866 --> 00:01:02,300 AN ATTEMPTED SELF-INDUCED 26 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:02,966 ABORTION, UP FROM 12% THREE 27 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:06,400 YEARS EARLIER. MEANWHILE, THE 28 00:01:06,466 --> 00:01:08,266 ABORTION RATE DROPPED) 29 00:01:08,333 --> 00:01:10,266 CONTINUING A LONG-STANDING 30 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:12,533 TREND. HUNDREDS OF NEW ABORTION 31 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,266 RESTRICTIONS BY STATES COULD 32 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:15,800 HAVE PLAYED A MINOR ROLE IN 33 00:01:15,866 --> 00:01:17,166 THIS DROP, BUT THEY ARE NOT 34 00:01:17,233 --> 00:01:18,566 SUSPECTED TO BE THE MAIN 35 00:01:18,633 --> 00:01:19,966 DRIVER. THE REPORT CITES THE 36 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:22,400 MAIN REASON FOR THE DROP IS A 37 00:01:22,466 --> 00:01:24,600 DROP IN BIRTH AND PREGNANCIES 38 00:01:24,666 --> 00:01:26,100 OVERALL. YET, THESE 39 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:28,600 RESTRICTIONS AND ANXIETY OVER 40 00:01:28,666 --> 00:01:29,933 HOW DONALD TRUMP'S SUPREME 41 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,333 COURT PICKS WILL VOTE ON 42 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,066 ABORTION RIGHTS HAVE LED MORE 43 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:34,900 WOMEN TO SEEK ALTERNATIVES TO 44 00:01:34,966 --> 00:01:37,066 GOING TO A DOCTOR. SOME WOMEN'S 45 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:38,266 RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS ARE 46 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:39,733 HELPING WOMEN GET MORE 47 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,266 INFORMATION ON INDUCING THEIR 48 00:01:41,333 --> 00:01:42,200 OWN ABORTIONS. EXPERTS SAY 49 00:01:42,266 --> 00:01:42,933 UNDER OPTIMAL CONDITIONS, SUCH 50 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,666 A PROCEDURE IS GENERALLY SAFE. 51 00:01:43,733 --> 00:01:44,366 COMPLICATIONS CAN CARRY RISKS 52 00:01:44,433 --> 00:01:55,800 FOR SOME WOMEN. SO ANN STONE, 53 00:01:55,866 --> 00:01:56,600 WHAT DO THESE TRENDS TELL US 54 00:01:56,666 --> 00:01:57,266 ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH 55 00:01:57,333 --> 00:02:00,666 ABORTION IN AMERICANS' THOUGHTS 56 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:01,066 THESE DAYS? 57 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:02,200 >> SOMETHING WE'VE TRIED TO 58 00:02:02,266 --> 00:02:02,900 EXPLAIN ON MY FRIENDS ON THE 59 00:02:02,966 --> 00:02:07,333 RIGHT IS THE GENIE IS OUT OF 60 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:07,733 THE BOTTLE. 61 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,466 FIRST THE RIGHT, WE MENTIONED, 62 00:02:08,533 --> 00:02:09,533 THAT THE RATE OF ABORTION IS 63 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,133 DOWN BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF 64 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,233 WOMEN OF CHILDBEARING AGE IS 65 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,133 WAY DOWN AS WELLE HEAR IT'S 66 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,700 AN ENTIRE MOVEMENT IN THE 67 00:02:15,766 --> 00:02:17,300 COUNTRY TO TEACH WOMEN HOW TO 68 00:02:17,366 --> 00:02:17,966 SELF INDUCE 69 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:19,933 IN THE EVENT ROE V WADE GETS 70 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,800 OVERTURNED. 71 00:02:20,866 --> 00:02:22,400 >> I THINK IT'S TERRIFYING AND 72 00:02:22,466 --> 00:02:23,500 IT DEMONSTRATES THAT PEOPLE 73 00:02:23,566 --> 00:02:26,800 DON'T FEEL LIKE -- ACCESS TO 74 00:02:26,866 --> 00:02:28,433 ABORTION IS GETTING MORE AND 75 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,200 MORE RESTRICTIVE AND THEY DON'T 76 00:02:29,266 --> 00:02:29,833 FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GO TO 77 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:32,466 MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS FOR HELP. 78 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:34,866 >> ONLY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL 79 00:02:34,933 --> 00:02:35,566 STATISTICS IN THE GOT BUNKER 80 00:02:35,633 --> 00:02:38,733 REPORT, THE OVERWHELMING FACTOR 81 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,666 DRIVING THIS DECREASE HAS TO DO 82 00:02:40,733 --> 00:02:41,900 WITH AN INCREASE IN ACCESS TO 83 00:02:41,966 --> 00:02:42,933 CONTRACEPTION WHICH, YES, WE 84 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,400 CAN THANK THE CONTRACEPTION 85 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:47,200 MANDATE AND OBAMACARE, BUT 86 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:48,300 LARGE PARTS BECAUSE WOMEN ARE 87 00:02:48,366 --> 00:02:52,466 TURNING TOWARDS LONG-ACTING 88 00:02:52,533 --> 00:02:53,000 REVERSIBLE FORMS OF 89 00:02:53,066 --> 00:02:53,733 CONTRACEPTION SUCH AS HORMONAL 90 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,433 COPPER IUD WHICH IS UNDER 1 91 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:58,266 PERCENT FAILURE RATE IN 92 00:02:58,333 --> 00:02:58,633 PRACTICE. 93 00:02:58,700 --> 00:02:59,366 >> I THINK IT'S TERRIFYING TOO 94 00:02:59,433 --> 00:03:00,733 WHAT'S HAPPENING TO A WOMAN'S 95 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,766 RIGHT TO HAVE AN ACCESS TO SAFE 96 00:03:02,833 --> 00:03:04,300 AND LEGAL ABORTION. 97 00:03:04,366 --> 00:03:06,466 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DOING YOUR 98 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:08,200 OWN SELF INDUCED ABORTION AND 99 00:03:08,266 --> 00:03:11,566 SELF DIAGNOSING IS AS SICK 100 00:03:11,633 --> 00:03:11,866 SAFE. 101 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:12,566 HAVING SPENT MY ENTIRE ADULT 102 00:03:12,633 --> 00:03:13,233 LIFE ON PLANNED PARENTHOOD 103 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:15,200 LOCAL BOARD, STATE BOARDS AND 104 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:18,500 ON THE NATIONAL BOARD, I KNOW 105 00:03:18,566 --> 00:03:20,400 HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR WOMEN 106 00:03:20,466 --> 00:03:21,400 WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR 107 00:03:21,466 --> 00:03:23,300 CLINICS. 108 00:03:23,366 --> 00:03:24,866 >> YOU SAY TERRIFYING. 109 00:03:24,933 --> 00:03:26,333 >> I JUST THINK THAT -- I MEAN, 110 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,800 ABORTION HAS BECOME SO 111 00:03:27,866 --> 00:03:30,133 POLITICIZED IN AMERICA THAT 112 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,100 IT'S NO LONGER SEEN AS A PART 113 00:03:31,166 --> 00:03:32,666 OF CONFERENCE OF REPRODUCTIVE 114 00:03:32,733 --> 00:03:33,333 HEALTH CARE FOR WOMEN. 115 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,300 AND YOU HAVE TO TRUST WOMEN 116 00:03:36,366 --> 00:03:37,800 WITH DECISIONS ABOUT OUR 117 00:03:37,866 --> 00:03:38,133 BODIES. 118 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,100 I THINK THE FACT WE ARE GOING 119 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:41,033 BACK TO, YOU KNOW, TIME IN THE 120 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,033 '60s WHEN WOMEN USE TO DO THIS, 121 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:44,166 NOW IT'S 2019. 122 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:46,466 WE SHOULD BE MAKING PROGRESS ON 123 00:03:46,533 --> 00:03:47,100 WOMEN'S RIGHTS NOT GOING 124 00:03:47,166 --> 00:03:47,466 BACKWARDS. 125 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:49,466 >> ACTUALLY, MY MOTHER DID IN 126 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:51,500 THE LATE 50s, EARLY '60s AND 127 00:03:51,566 --> 00:03:53,966 NOT WITH THE CHEMICAL, WITH A 128 00:03:54,033 --> 00:03:54,933 KNITTING NEEDLE WHICH IS ALL 129 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,600 THEY HAD BACK THEN. 130 00:03:58,666 --> 00:03:59,333 >> BUT TWO POINTS: THE POINT 131 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,933 MADE ABOUT CONTRACEPTION, 132 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,600 GUTTMACHER IN THE PAST HAS 133 00:04:01,666 --> 00:04:05,000 SHOWN 60 PERCENT, SIX AND ZERO, 134 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:09,833 PERCENT OF THE FAILURES DUE TO 135 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:10,266 CONTRACEPTION. 136 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:11,700 AS CONTRACEPTION GETS IMPROVED, 137 00:04:11,766 --> 00:04:12,933 ABORTION RATES WILL GO DOWN, 138 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,566 DOWN, DOWN. 139 00:04:16,633 --> 00:04:17,300 I WILL ALSO TELL YOU ROE WILL 140 00:04:17,366 --> 00:04:17,800 NOT BE REVERSED. 141 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:20,733 >> ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 142 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,533 BREAKDOWN OF THE DECREASES PER 143 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,000 REGION, ABORTION DECREASE JUST 144 00:04:24,066 --> 00:04:26,300 AS MUCH, MORE IN CALIFORNIA, 145 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:27,633 THEN THEY DID IN THE SOUTH. 146 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:32,233 THE PUBLIC 16 PERCENT IN THE 147 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:32,666 PAST 15 YEARS. 148 00:04:32,733 --> 00:04:34,900 IT IS A CHANGE IN CULTURE, A 149 00:04:34,966 --> 00:04:35,866 BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF 150 00:04:35,933 --> 00:04:37,000 CONTRACEPTION WORKS IN BETTER 151 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:39,033 APPRECIATION FOR THE VALUE OF 152 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:40,633 HUMAN LIFEND THAT'S A GOOD 153 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:40,933 THING. 154 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,400 IT'S A GOOD -- 155 00:04:41,466 --> 00:04:41,833 [CROSS TALK] 156 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:43,533 >> WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE 157 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,166 SELF INDUCING ABORTIONS AND 158 00:04:46,233 --> 00:04:46,600 RISKING DEATH? 159 00:04:46,666 --> 00:04:48,933 >> THE NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO ARE 160 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,033 STILL SELF INDUCING ABORTIONS, 161 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:54,500 IT IS SO STATISTICALLY 162 00:04:54,566 --> 00:04:55,200 INSIGNIFICANT IN RELATION TO 163 00:04:55,266 --> 00:04:56,300 THE AMOUNT OF WOMEN WHO ARE NOT 164 00:04:56,366 --> 00:04:57,533 GETTING ABORTIONS BECAUSE -- 165 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,066 [CROSS TALK] 166 00:04:59,133 --> 00:04:59,900 >> INSTITUTE WE ARE TALKING 167 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:00,766 ABOUT, TALKING INCREASE IN 168 00:05:00,833 --> 00:05:01,066 TREND. 169 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:03,100 >> YES. 170 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:04,166 ONLY IN A SMALL NUMBER OF 171 00:05:04,233 --> 00:05:06,966 PEOPLE. 172 00:05:07,033 --> 00:05:08,200 >> ALSO, DOES NOT MATTER FOR V 173 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:12,533 WADE GETS OVERTURNED OR NOT . 174 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,300 IF YOU COME FROM A STATE LIKE I 175 00:05:13,366 --> 00:05:14,000 DO IN MISSOURI, BASICALLY WE 176 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:15,233 HAVE ONE ABORTION CLINIC LEFT 177 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:17,466 AND THE GOVERNOR TRIED TO SHUT 178 00:05:17,533 --> 00:05:18,100 THAT DOWN.COURTS ARE NOW 179 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:18,566 HOLDING IT OPEN. 180 00:05:18,633 --> 00:05:21,600 BASICALLY, YOU WIPE OUT ROE V 181 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:22,300 WADE IT IS HORRIFYING TO SAY, 182 00:05:22,366 --> 00:05:23,533 OH, I HAVE TO GO TO ILLINOIS TO 183 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,700 GET A BIT IN ABORTION OR KANSAS 184 00:05:27,766 --> 00:05:28,233 TO GET AN ABORTION. 185 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:29,533 THAT HURTS POOR WOMEN. 186 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,733 ALSO, THE SELF DIAGNOSING, YOU 187 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,366 DON'T KNOW OF ANY TOPICAL 188 00:05:35,433 --> 00:05:35,733 PREGNANCY. 189 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,233 WERE YOU DOING -- 190 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:36,700 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 191 00:05:36,766 --> 00:05:37,366 >> ALSO, THANK YOU FOR THE 192 00:05:37,433 --> 00:05:38,433 CONTEXT, BUT ONE WOMAN DOING 193 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:41,700 THIS TO HERSELF, ONE WOMAN TOO 194 00:05:41,766 --> 00:05:42,000 MANY. 195 00:05:42,066 --> 00:05:44,233 EVERYONE FIVE COUNTS. 196 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:44,866 >> EVEN WITH THE -- EVEN 197 00:05:44,933 --> 00:05:46,900 CHEMICALLY WHICH IS WITH THE 198 00:05:46,966 --> 00:05:48,533 MIFEPRISTONE WHICH IS PRETTY 199 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,600 SAFE 200 00:05:49,666 --> 00:05:51,500 [CROSS TALK] 201 00:05:51,566 --> 00:05:53,033 >> OF PUT AN PER COMPARISON TO 202 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:55,566 GIVING YOURSELF AN ABORTION 203 00:05:55,633 --> 00:05:57,700 WITH A NEEDLE IS, I MEAN -- 204 00:05:57,766 --> 00:06:00,766 >> NO WOMEN ARE DOING THAT 205 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:02,966 ANYMORE. 206 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:09,933 >> I THINK OF THE LINES, THE 207 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,700 HECTOR -- THE SYMPTOMS PHYSICAL 208 00:06:10,766 --> 00:06:11,466 ASSAULTS, CERTAINLY, THE VERBAL 209 00:06:11,533 --> 00:06:13,066 ASSAULTS, THE PROTESTS THAT 210 00:06:13,133 --> 00:06:15,000 THIS ADMINISTRATION -- I MEAN, 211 00:06:15,066 --> 00:06:16,833 IT'S MUCH OF THOSE -- MANY 212 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:18,866 CLINICS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN 213 00:06:18,933 --> 00:06:20,133 PROTECTED BY THE JUSTICE 214 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,666 DEPARTMENT SENDING OUT 215 00:06:21,733 --> 00:06:22,033 MARSHALS. 216 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:23,766 THIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT 217 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:24,733 SENDING OUT ANY MARSHALS. 218 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,700 >> THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT 219 00:06:26,766 --> 00:06:28,733 SELF-INDUCED HAS GONE UP TOO, 220 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,766 BECAUSE WOMEN ARE FREE TO GO TO 221 00:06:32,833 --> 00:06:33,100 CLINICS. 222 00:06:33,166 --> 00:06:33,800 >> AS DEANNA SAID, THAT'S A 223 00:06:33,866 --> 00:06:35,500 TINY PERCENTAGE OF WHAT'S GOING 224 00:06:35,566 --> 00:06:40,933 ON HERE THAN WHY DON'T -- WIRE 225 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,066 AND PRO-CHOICE REPUBLICANS 226 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:46,166 ASKING THIS ADMINISTRATION TO 227 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:48,200 ENFORCE THE LAWS, WHICH IS YOU 228 00:06:48,266 --> 00:06:50,900 CAN'T COME WITHIN SO MANY FEET 229 00:06:50,966 --> 00:06:51,600 OF SOMEBODY TRYING TO ACCESS 230 00:06:51,666 --> 00:06:52,000 THE CLINIC? 231 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:52,366 >> RIGHT. 232 00:06:52,433 --> 00:06:53,933 IT PRESUMES WE ARE NOT, BECAUSE 233 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,266 WE ARE. 234 00:06:54,333 --> 00:06:55,300 WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER 235 00:06:55,366 --> 00:06:59,600 ALTERNATIVES FOR THE WOMEN AS 236 00:06:59,666 --> 00:06:59,900 WELL. 237 00:06:59,966 --> 00:07:00,633 THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE THINGS 238 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:01,700 -- TALK ABOUT THE PROTESTS, 239 00:07:01,766 --> 00:07:02,633 LOOK AT THE DOCTORS THAT HAVE 240 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:04,466 BEEN SHOT LIKE DR. TAILORED 241 00:07:04,533 --> 00:07:09,166 KILLED IN HIS CHURCH WHILE HE'S 242 00:07:09,233 --> 00:07:09,533 USHERING. 243 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,166 >> I WANT TO SAY A COUPLE 244 00:07:10,233 --> 00:07:10,500 THINGS. 245 00:07:10,566 --> 00:07:12,500 ONE, NOT HAPPENING IN ST. LOUIS 246 00:07:12,566 --> 00:07:13,133 AND WOMEN WERE NOT BEING 247 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,633 PROTECTED AS THEY GO TO THE 248 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:16,233 ABORTION CLINIC THERE. 249 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:16,866 I DRIVE BY THAT EVERY DAY. 250 00:07:16,933 --> 00:07:21,633 NUMBER TWO, THE ARTICLE ALSO 251 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:22,300 TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT 252 00:07:22,366 --> 00:07:22,966 THERE ARE ALL THESE GOOGLE 253 00:07:23,033 --> 00:07:23,566 SEARCHES, THOUSANDS AND 254 00:07:23,633 --> 00:07:24,766 THOUSANDS OF THEM , WOMEN 255 00:07:24,833 --> 00:07:26,400 LOOKING UP COAT HANGERS AND 256 00:07:26,466 --> 00:07:27,066 ABORTIONS. 257 00:07:27,133 --> 00:07:28,100 >> 18 PERCENT OF ALL 258 00:07:28,166 --> 00:07:28,833 PREGNANCIES IN THIS COUNTRY AND 259 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:30,833 IN ABORTION. 260 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:31,833 >> LET HER FINISH. 261 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:33,500 >> SO WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW 262 00:07:33,566 --> 00:07:35,400 IS YOU HAVE GENERATIONS OF 263 00:07:35,466 --> 00:07:36,766 WOMEN THAT THOUGHT THEY COULD 264 00:07:36,833 --> 00:07:38,466 GO TO DOCTORS AND CLINICS AND 265 00:07:38,533 --> 00:07:40,300 HAVE A SAFE, LEGAL ABORTION . 266 00:07:40,366 --> 00:07:41,700 NOW THEY ARE SAYING WHERE DO I 267 00:07:41,766 --> 00:07:41,966 GO? 268 00:07:42,033 --> 00:07:42,900 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO? 269 00:07:42,966 --> 00:07:44,000 THEY'RE GOING ON THE INTERNET 270 00:07:44,066 --> 00:07:45,133 AND WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT 271 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,300 IT WITH THE SPELL, THAT BILL, 272 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:47,766 YOU CAN DO THAT. 273 00:07:47,833 --> 00:07:49,366 THERE ARE TONS OF WOMEN OUT 274 00:07:49,433 --> 00:07:50,833 THERE THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT 275 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:51,133 THAT. 276 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,900 THEY ARE IN A BRAVE, NEW WORLD. 277 00:07:53,966 --> 00:07:54,966 >> ONLY THAT, IT NEVER CEASES 278 00:07:55,033 --> 00:07:57,833 TO AMAZE ME HOW MANY 279 00:07:57,900 --> 00:07:58,566 PARTICULARLY YOUNG WOMEN DON'T 280 00:07:58,633 --> 00:08:00,166 EVEN KNOW WHEN THEY ARE -- 281 00:08:00,233 --> 00:08:01,500 UNTIL THEY ARE 3 AND 4 MONTHS 282 00:08:01,566 --> 00:08:02,400 PREGNANT. 283 00:08:02,466 --> 00:08:04,233 SHOULDN'T THERE BE -- AND THAT, 284 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:05,966 OF COURSE, A LOT OF THAT YOU 285 00:08:06,033 --> 00:08:07,833 COULD PUT ON THE RELIGIOUS 286 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:09,966 RIGHT FOR ONLY ALLOWING WHERE 287 00:08:10,033 --> 00:08:11,766 THEY HAVE THE POLITICAL POWER 288 00:08:11,833 --> 00:08:13,433 TO MAKE THAT DECISION, ONLY 289 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:15,600 ALLOWING ABSTINENCE, ONLY SEX 290 00:08:15,666 --> 00:08:17,433 EDUCATION WHICH IS LIKE NO SEX. 291 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:19,233 >> THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 292 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:20,400 TRYING TO PUSH IN THE SENATE 293 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:21,566 FOR CONTRACEPTION WITH 294 00:08:21,633 --> 00:08:23,533 DEREGULATION TO MAKE IT THE 295 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,366 MILLIONS OF WOMEN WHO ARE STILL 296 00:08:25,433 --> 00:08:26,633 NOT COVERED BY HEALTH 297 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:27,000 INSURANCE. 298 00:08:27,066 --> 00:08:27,566 THAT THEY CAN OBTAIN 299 00:08:27,633 --> 00:08:30,633 OVER-THE-COUNTER BOTH BIRTH 300 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:30,966 CONTROL. 301 00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:31,700 THAT'S A BILL PROPOSED BY CORY 302 00:08:31,766 --> 00:08:32,433 GARDNER JONI ERNST AND THAT'S 303 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,266 IT BILL THE DEMOCRATS, 304 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:35,766 PARTICULARLY ONCE LOBBIED BY 305 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:36,433 PLANETARY PARENTHOOD, HAVE 306 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:38,966 CONTINUED TO PUSH BACK AGAINST 307 00:08:39,033 --> 00:08:39,700 PICTURES BEFORE CONSUMPTION IS 308 00:08:39,766 --> 00:08:40,966 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THIS 309 00:08:41,033 --> 00:08:41,366 COUNTRY HAS. 310 00:08:41,433 --> 00:08:42,800 >> ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S VERY, 311 00:08:42,866 --> 00:08:43,166 VERY TRUE. 312 00:08:43,233 --> 00:08:46,733 THE ONLY WAY THAT , ONCE AGO, THE 313 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,633 REPUBLICANS ARE PULLING AWAY 314 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:50,500 MONEY FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD 315 00:08:50,566 --> 00:08:51,066 THAT GIVES BIRTH -- 316 00:08:51,133 --> 00:08:55,433 >> TO ALLOCATE TO OTHER TITLE X 317 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:55,833 FACILITIES. 318 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:56,466 [CROSS TALK] 319 00:08:56,533 --> 00:08:59,466 >> TITLE X FACILITIES LIKE 320 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:01,066 ANTIABORTION CLINICS -- > 321 00:09:01,133 --> 00:09:02,033 WERE THE ONES THAT OFFER 322 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,233 CONTRACEPTION. 323 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:04,533 >> NO. 324 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,566 THE ONES THAT ARE RUN BY THE 325 00:09:05,633 --> 00:09:08,000 CHURCH TO AN OFFER ANY. 326 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:09,000 >> AND EVERYONE DOLLARS SPENT 327 00:09:09,066 --> 00:09:13,366 ON ANY . 328 00:09:13,433 --> 00:09:14,633 >> READ BACK SEVEN DOLLARS IN 329 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:16,333 SAVINGS -- 330 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,033 >> WAIT A SECOND, YOU ARE NOT 331 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:19,233 TALKING ABOUT -- SHE WERE NOT 332 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:20,800 INCLUDING -- I'M NOT SURE LATER 333 00:09:20,866 --> 00:09:22,900 TITLE X TO BE HONEST. 334 00:09:22,966 --> 00:09:26,433 BUT THE RELIGIOUS CENTERS 335 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:27,166 OPPOSES ABORTION CLINICS, BUT 336 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:29,466 THEY ARE PROBABLY WAY MORE -- 337 00:09:29,533 --> 00:09:29,900 WAIT A MINUTE. 338 00:09:29,966 --> 00:09:31,966 THERE ARE WAY MORE OF THEM NOW 339 00:09:32,033 --> 00:09:34,466 AND THEN THERE ARE ACTUAL 340 00:09:34,533 --> 00:09:38,666 WOMEN'S HEALTH CLINICS, SO -- 341 00:09:38,733 --> 00:09:40,500 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT 342 00:09:40,566 --> 00:09:41,266 OUT UNDER ANY -- 343 00:09:41,333 --> 00:09:43,900 >> 344 00:09:43,966 --> 00:09:44,333 [CROSS TALK] 345 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,066 >> I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WAS 346 00:09:45,133 --> 00:09:46,200 READING AN ARTICLE -- 347 00:09:46,266 --> 00:09:46,633 [CROSS TALK] 348 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:48,833 >> AND PRETTY SURE UNDER BUSH, 349 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:51,266 THEY STARTED TO GET FEDERAL 350 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:54,000 FUNDING . 351 00:09:54,066 --> 00:09:54,933 >> EXCUSE ME IF I MAY. 352 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,366 IT'S NOT JUST CLINICS. 353 00:09:56,433 --> 00:09:57,100 YOU CAN GO TO A DOCTOR THAT ARE 354 00:09:57,166 --> 00:09:58,166 NOT UNDER GAG RULES. 355 00:09:58,233 --> 00:09:59,600 ANOTHER THING THAT SHOULD 356 00:09:59,666 --> 00:10:01,900 HAPPEN IS 1-800-DOCTORS OUGHT 357 00:10:01,966 --> 00:10:02,666 TO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER 358 00:10:02,733 --> 00:10:05,166 OR NOT THAT DOCTOR IS WILLING 359 00:10:05,233 --> 00:10:06,600 TO CANCEL ON ABORTION. 360 00:10:06,666 --> 00:10:08,000 I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY 361 00:10:08,066 --> 00:10:08,333 USEFUL. 362 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,833 >> MAKE HIM OR HERSELF A 363 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:10,166 TARGET? 364 00:10:10,233 --> 00:10:12,900 YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE IDENTIFIED 365 00:10:12,966 --> 00:10:15,200 -- ELECTRIFY TO IDENTIFY 366 00:10:15,266 --> 00:10:15,566 MYSELF AS. 367 00:10:15,633 --> 00:10:17,533 >> ALL THE LOONEY TUNES OUT 368 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,700 THERE -- 369 00:10:19,766 --> 00:10:21,133 >> THEY FIND OUT ANYWAY, 370 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,833 WHETHER IT'S ON 1-800-DOCTORS 371 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:24,366 ARE NOT. 372 00:10:24,433 --> 00:10:26,933 YOU SEE PROTESTERS IN FRONT OF 373 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,666 THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH 374 00:10:27,733 --> 00:10:28,900 DOCTORS IN AND YOU ARE SHOCKED 375 00:10:28,966 --> 00:10:30,233 THAT THEY FOUND OUT THE DOCTORS 376 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:31,966 X OR Y. THE POINT IS TO PROVIDE 377 00:10:32,033 --> 00:10:36,333 INFO THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING 378 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,600 FOR. 379 00:10:36,666 --> 00:10:37,300 >> Bonnie: LET US KNOW WHAT 380 00:10:37,366 --> 00:10:38,033 YOU THINK. PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON 381 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:41,966 TWITTER @BONNIEERBE. 382 00:10:42,233 --> 00:10:42,866 FROM ABORTIONS TO GENDER AND 383 00:10:42,933 --> 00:10:46,066 GRAMMAR. GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING 384 00:10:46,133 --> 00:10:47,900 SINGER SAM SMITH RECENTLY 385 00:10:47,966 --> 00:10:49,533 REVEALED HE IS GENDER 386 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,766 NONBINARY, OR RATHER THAT THEY 387 00:10:51,833 --> 00:10:54,500 ARE GENDER NON-BINARY AND WOULD 388 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:55,200 PREFER TO BE REFERRED TO END 389 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,533 THE PLURAL THIRD-PERSON INSTEAD 390 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,533 OF IN THE GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT 391 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,266 FIRST PERSON SINGULAR. THIS IS 392 00:11:01,333 --> 00:11:03,333 BUT THE LATEST TWIST IN THE 393 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,000 ATTEMPT BY SOME MEMBERS OF THE 394 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:07,733 LGBTQ COMMUNITY TO BE REFERRED 395 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,633 TO IN PLURAL AND NOT AS HE OR 396 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:12,566 SHE. THE ISSUE SETS UP ALL 397 00:11:12,633 --> 00:11:14,100 KINDS OF QUESTIONS, FIRST AS TO 398 00:11:14,166 --> 00:11:15,966 WHETHER ALL MEMBERS OF THE 399 00:11:16,033 --> 00:11:16,700 COMMUNITY AGREE THIS IS THE WAY 400 00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:20,333 FORWARD AND IF NOT, HOW TO KEEP 401 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,800 TRACK OF HOW EACH PERSON WISHES 402 00:11:22,866 --> 00:11:24,533 TO BE IDENTIFIED. THEN THERE'S 403 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,733 THE QUESTION OF CHANGING 404 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,866 GRAMMAR RULES IN GRADE SCHOOL, 405 00:11:27,933 --> 00:11:29,133 SOMETHING WHICH OPPONENTS OF 406 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,033 GAY RIGHTS ARE QUITE LIKELY TO 407 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:34,200 CHALLENGE. 408 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:35,266 >> Bonnie: SO THIS USE OF THE 409 00:11:35,333 --> 00:11:36,766 PLURAL THIRD PERSON PLURAL 410 00:11:36,833 --> 00:11:38,500 INSTEAD OF THE FIRST PERSON 411 00:11:38,566 --> 00:11:39,966 SINGULAR, GOOD IDEA OR BAD? 412 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:41,933 >> YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THIS 413 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,300 IS A COMMUNITY THAT'S EDUCATING 414 00:11:46,366 --> 00:11:46,566 US. 415 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:47,266 AND I THINK IT'S AN EDUCATION 416 00:11:47,333 --> 00:11:49,066 AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE 417 00:11:49,133 --> 00:11:49,533 PUTTING FORWARD. 418 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,033 YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M IN 419 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:52,066 A POSITION TO BE LIKE, 420 00:11:52,133 --> 00:11:52,766 ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT TO BE 421 00:11:52,833 --> 00:11:58,700 CALLED AT THEN THAT'S TOO 422 00:11:58,766 --> 00:11:59,266 CONFUSING FOR ME AND 423 00:11:59,333 --> 00:11:59,700 INCONVENIENT. 424 00:11:59,766 --> 00:12:00,466 SO I APPROACH THIS AND DO IT AS 425 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:00,900 AN EDUCATION. 426 00:12:00,966 --> 00:12:01,633 >> THE SUBJECT MAKES ME SO SAD. 427 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:03,033 MY DEAREST FRIEND IN THE 428 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:06,333 WORLD WAS A GAY MALE WHO DIED 429 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:06,666 OF AIDS. 430 00:12:06,733 --> 00:12:07,333 I CAN ONLY THINK OF WHAT HE 431 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:07,700 WOULD SAY. 432 00:12:07,766 --> 00:12:08,300 HE WOULD THINK IT WAS 433 00:12:08,366 --> 00:12:09,033 RIDICULOUS THAT THERE ONLY TWO 434 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:11,400 SEXES. 435 00:12:11,466 --> 00:12:12,100 YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW. 436 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,133 I GUESS I DON'T CARE AS MUCH. 437 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,533 I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE 438 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,933 FIRED IF THEY MISUSE A PRONOUN. 439 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,433 IF THIS REALLY IS THAT 440 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,200 IMPORTANT TO THEM, UNWILLING TO 441 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:22,800 HONOR THEM THAT WAY , BUT, 442 00:12:22,866 --> 00:12:23,633 AGAIN, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE 443 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,833 LEGAL CONSEQUENCES IF THEY 444 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:27,333 MISUSE A PRONOUN. 445 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,433 >> YEAH. I KIND OF FEEL THE 446 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:29,733 SAME WAY THAT YOU DO AND THAT 447 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,233 YOU DO. 448 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:33,166 I'M FLUENT ON THIS THINK WE 449 00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:33,966 CAN ALWAYS ADJUST. 450 00:12:34,033 --> 00:12:36,466 LANGUAGE IS ALWAYS EVOLVING. 451 00:12:36,533 --> 00:12:38,633 IT'S NOT A STAGNANT THING. 452 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:39,900 IF WE CAN USE THE DAY AND OTHER 453 00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:41,566 TERMS AND I CAN SAY THEY LEFT 454 00:12:41,633 --> 00:12:43,166 THEIR HOME AS AN INDIVIDUAL 455 00:12:43,233 --> 00:12:45,833 LEFT THEIR PHONE THERE, THEN I 456 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:46,400 DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. 457 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:47,533 I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE 458 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:47,833 FIRED. 459 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:48,433 BUT AS TIME EVOLVES AND 460 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,733 LANGUAGE EVOLVES, WE WILL SEE 461 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:59,933 WHAT HAPPENS. 462 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,766 >> AND PRETTY ATTITUDINAL THE 463 00:13:01,833 --> 00:13:02,433 LIBERTARIAN ILLNESS IN THE 464 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,733 SENSE THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO 465 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,666 IDENTIFY AS A PIECE OF JELL-O, 466 00:13:04,733 --> 00:13:05,600 I DON'T CARE. 467 00:13:05,666 --> 00:13:06,300 IT'S UP TO YOU TO DEFINE THE 468 00:13:06,366 --> 00:13:07,366 TERMS OF HOW YOU WANT TO BE 469 00:13:07,433 --> 00:13:08,266 CALLED, HOW YOU IDENTIFY AND 470 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:10,100 WHAT NOT. 471 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:10,800 BUT I THINK IT'S STRANGE HOW 472 00:13:10,866 --> 00:13:11,633 THE LGBT MOVEMENT HAS EVOLVED 473 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:12,533 FROM REALLY CARING ABOUT YOUR 474 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,433 RIGHT TO EXIST ON EITHER SIDE 475 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:14,833 OF THE GENDER BINARY TO 476 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:16,400 IGNORING ITS EXISTENCE AT ALL. 477 00:13:16,466 --> 00:13:18,066 FROM SOCIAL PERSPECTIVE, I 478 00:13:18,133 --> 00:13:18,800 DON'T CARE TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT 479 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:19,933 DOES NOT AFFECT ME HOW OTHER 480 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,866 PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIVES 481 00:13:21,933 --> 00:13:22,600 BUT IT BECOMES A PROBLEM WHEN 482 00:13:22,666 --> 00:13:26,833 WE START ACTING AS THOUGH 483 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:27,533 SCIENTIFIC GENDER BINARY DOES 484 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:27,900 NOT EXIST. 485 00:13:27,966 --> 00:13:28,566 THESE ARE PROBLEMS THAT WE 486 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:29,233 DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THIS 487 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:33,266 LEVEL OF WOKENESS APPROACHING 488 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,500 BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES AND THE 489 00:13:35,566 --> 00:13:36,000 MEDICAL SCIENCES. 490 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:37,100 I THINK THERE WAS A WAY FOR US 491 00:13:37,166 --> 00:13:38,466 TO AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT 492 00:13:38,533 --> 00:13:40,000 TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS YOU 493 00:13:40,066 --> 00:13:41,666 WANT IN YOUR DESERVING OF HUMAN 494 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:43,400 DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND ALSO 495 00:13:43,466 --> 00:13:46,133 NOT PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO DON'T 496 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,766 NECESSARILY REMEMBER TO USE A 497 00:13:47,833 --> 00:13:51,466 PLURAL PRONOUN TO REFER TO A 498 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:51,933 SINGULAR PERSON. 499 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,600 >> YOU KNOW, YOU REFER TO 500 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:53,300 GETTING FIRED FOR MISUSING A 501 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:55,800 PRONOUN POINT I ASSUME YOU'RE 502 00:13:55,866 --> 00:13:58,433 TALKING ABOUT CALLING A LGBTQ 503 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:01,100 PERSON SHE OR HE WHEN THAT 504 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:03,333 PERSON WOULD PREFER THEY. 505 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,233 THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MISUSE, THE 506 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:07,933 IMPROPER GRAMMATICALLY USED -- 507 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,266 >> I'M SAYING IN GENERAL I 508 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:10,700 DON'T WANT PEOPLE FIRED FOR 509 00:14:10,766 --> 00:14:12,333 THAT KIND OF STUFF -- 510 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,333 >> BUT LET ME, BECAUSE YOU AND 511 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,000 I BOTH GO BACK SO FAR, WHEN 512 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:19,133 GLORIA STEINEM CAME OUT WITH 513 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,200 MS. MAGAZINE, THE WOMEN'S 514 00:14:24,266 --> 00:14:26,700 MOVEMENT CREATED A NEW WORD, 515 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:31,333 NOT DISTORT THE ALREADY LONG 516 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,200 TIME MEANING OF THE GRAMMAR 517 00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:34,900 THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE 518 00:14:34,966 --> 00:14:38,733 ENGLISH LANGUAGE FOR CENTURIES. 519 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,733 THAT IS WHERE I THINK -- THAT'S 520 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,166 WHY THIS IS SO CONTROVERSIAL . 521 00:14:43,233 --> 00:14:45,700 MS. WAS NOT CONTROVERSIAL AT 522 00:14:45,766 --> 00:14:47,933 ALL, BECAUSE NO ONE -- 523 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,300 >> IT WAS. 524 00:14:48,366 --> 00:14:50,700 MAYBE NOT IN YOUR CIRCLE, BUT, 525 00:14:50,766 --> 00:14:51,133 YEAH, IT WAS. 526 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,533 IT TOOK A LONG TIME BEFORE 527 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,233 CONSERVATIVE WOMEN COULD USE 528 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,666 THAT AND GET AWAY WITH IT. 529 00:14:55,733 --> 00:14:57,500 >> BUT THERE WAS MEDIA COVERAGE 530 00:14:57,566 --> 00:14:59,566 LIKE IF THERE IS EVIDENCE ABOUT 531 00:14:59,633 --> 00:15:00,633 HOW HORRIBLE. 532 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,366 >> MAYBE NOT THE DRUMBEAT BUT 533 00:15:03,433 --> 00:15:05,966 MY CIRCLE IS PRETTY INTENSE. 534 00:15:06,033 --> 00:15:06,700 THE ONLY PERSON AT THE TABLE 535 00:15:06,766 --> 00:15:07,233 WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS 536 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:10,200 HERMAPHRODITE, SOMEONE WHO HAS 537 00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:12,066 BOTH, AND EVEN THEY HAVE TO 538 00:15:12,133 --> 00:15:12,400 CHOOSE. 539 00:15:12,466 --> 00:15:18,733 YOU NO ONE TOOAGO FROM 540 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,366 SISTER, SHE HAD TO CHOOSE 541 00:15:19,433 --> 00:15:19,700 FEMALE. 542 00:15:19,766 --> 00:15:23,633 SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CASES. 543 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:24,833 >> DOCTORS DID BECAUSE IT WAS 544 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:28,966 EASIER TO MAKE A CHILD OF 545 00:15:29,033 --> 00:15:29,633 EITHER -- OR WITH BITS AND 546 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:31,400 PIECES OF -- 547 00:15:31,466 --> 00:15:32,033 >> IF THEY HAD A VAGINA. 548 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:34,800 >> RIGHT, TO A GIRL. 549 00:15:34,866 --> 00:15:35,466 >> SO THERE ARE LEGITIMATE 550 00:15:35,533 --> 00:15:37,600 SCIENTIFIC REASONS AT TIMES YOU 551 00:15:37,666 --> 00:15:40,300 HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE 552 00:15:40,366 --> 00:15:40,633 BINARY. 553 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:43,333 OVERALL, I JUST THINK IN SOME 554 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,933 AREAS, IT'S GOTTEN OUT OF 555 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,166 CONTROL WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOSING 556 00:15:46,233 --> 00:15:48,233 THEIR JOBS OR NOT EVEN JUST 557 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:49,433 BEING FIRED, BUT BEING DRUMMED 558 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:52,000 OUT OF WERE BEING SHUNNED. 559 00:15:52,066 --> 00:15:52,966 >> I HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT. 560 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:54,966 >> LOTS OF ARTICLES. 561 00:15:55,033 --> 00:15:57,733 IN MY CIRCLE, I SEE A LOT. 562 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,600 >> AND WHAT ABOUT THIS 563 00:16:00,666 --> 00:16:01,266 PERSPECTIVE: ON ONE HAND, A 564 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,166 PERSON MAY FEEL VERY SUPPORTIVE 565 00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:06,866 OF LGBTQ RIGHTS. 566 00:16:06,933 --> 00:16:09,566 ON THE OTHER HAND, NOT WANTING 567 00:16:09,633 --> 00:16:11,800 -- NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE 568 00:16:11,866 --> 00:16:12,466 USING WHAT ARE CONSIDERED 569 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:16,633 IMPROPER PERMANENCE. 570 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:20,366 IS THAT PERSON THEN THEREFORE 571 00:16:20,433 --> 00:16:20,733 ANTI-GAY? 572 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,666 >> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE 573 00:16:21,733 --> 00:16:22,933 ANTI-GAY AT ALL . 574 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,200 I MEAN, THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL 575 00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:26,833 AND HOW THEY WANT TO TALK AND 576 00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:27,833 ARE USED TO TALKING AND 577 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:29,400 ADDRESSING . 578 00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:30,133 I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS THAT 579 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,833 THEY ARE AGAINST A GAY PERSON. 580 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:33,900 I JUST THINK IT'S A COMFORT 581 00:16:33,966 --> 00:16:35,500 LEVEL INTERCHANGE LEVEL, AND I 582 00:16:35,566 --> 00:16:37,233 THINK WE WILL HAVE TO BE FLUID 583 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:38,733 AND GIVE THE SOME TIME AND GIVE 584 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,233 PEOPLE SOME TIME. 585 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:40,233 >> WE WILL GET THERE. 586 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:40,933 >> THE ONLY AREA I CARE ABOUT 587 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,133 IS WITH CHILDREN. 588 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,733 OBVIOUSLY THE TRANS MOVEMENT 589 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,100 HAS BEEN IMPORTANT FOR THOSE 590 00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:49,266 ADULTS WHO CONTINUE TO HAVE 591 00:16:49,333 --> 00:16:49,833 GENDER DYSPHORIA INTO 592 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:50,200 ADULTHOOD. 593 00:16:50,266 --> 00:16:50,900 IF YOU LOOK AT SCIENCE, IT'S 594 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:52,433 RELATIVELY SETTLED THAT 595 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,500 ALLOWING AN ADULT WHO I STILL 596 00:16:53,566 --> 00:16:54,666 IDENTIFIES AS SOMETHING OTHER 597 00:16:54,733 --> 00:16:56,300 THAN BIOLOGICAL A GENDER TO 598 00:16:56,366 --> 00:16:57,766 AFFIRM THAT, IT DECREASES 599 00:16:57,833 --> 00:16:58,833 SUICIDALITY. 600 00:16:58,900 --> 00:16:59,566 HOWEVER, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY 601 00:16:59,633 --> 00:17:03,400 OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE GENDER 602 00:17:03,466 --> 00:17:04,866 DYSPHORIA TEND TO SUBSIST OUT 603 00:17:04,933 --> 00:17:08,266 OF IT AND IDENTIFY AS GAY OR 604 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:08,600 LESBIAN. 605 00:17:08,666 --> 00:17:10,633 HOWEVER, THIS PUSH FOR US TO 606 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:12,633 AFFIRM FIVE-YEAR-OLDS WHO 607 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:13,766 BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE BOYS 608 00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:15,300 INSTEAD OF GIRLS RATHER THAN 609 00:17:15,366 --> 00:17:16,866 SAY LET'S WORK IT OUT, MAYBE 610 00:17:16,933 --> 00:17:19,200 YOU'RE JUST A TOMBOY, MAYBE YOU 611 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:19,866 ACTUALLY WILL IDENTIFY AS 612 00:17:19,933 --> 00:17:22,000 ANOTHER GENDERAS ADULT. 613 00:17:22,066 --> 00:17:24,800 YOU SHOULD BE THEN TREATED WITH 614 00:17:24,866 --> 00:17:25,133 RESPECT. 615 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,800 BUT THE STRANGE PROGRESSIVE 616 00:17:25,866 --> 00:17:28,633 PUSH TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE THE 617 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:30,600 IDEA THAT GENDER IS FLUID, IT 618 00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:32,533 DEFIES MOST SOCIAL SCIENCE AND 619 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,466 MOST BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE, 620 00:17:34,533 --> 00:17:35,666 SCIENTIFIC STUDIES THAT 621 00:17:35,733 --> 00:17:39,966 DEMONSTRATE THAT GENDER IS A 622 00:17:40,033 --> 00:17:40,600 PRETTY FIXED PART OF YOUR 623 00:17:40,666 --> 00:17:40,966 IDENTITY. 624 00:17:41,033 --> 00:17:41,700 WHEN YOU'RE TRANSGENDER, THAT 625 00:17:41,766 --> 00:17:42,400 IS A VERY STRONG AND SALIENT 626 00:17:42,466 --> 00:17:44,033 FEELING THAT DOES NOT 627 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:47,900 NECESSARILY EBB AND FLOW BASED 628 00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:48,466 ON SOCIAL AFFIRMATION. 629 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:51,066 >> IF A LITTLE GIRL LIKE 630 00:17:51,133 --> 00:17:52,666 STARBUCKS, IS THAT BAD? 631 00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:55,300 NO, THAT'S EVOLUTION. 632 00:17:55,366 --> 00:17:56,133 >> Bonnie: 633 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,866 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: DO WOMEN 634 00:17:56,933 --> 00:17:58,066 HAVE A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP 635 00:17:58,133 --> 00:17:59,600 WITH MONEY THAN MEN? 636 00:17:59,666 --> 00:18:01,300 YES, THEY DO, ACCORDING TO A 637 00:18:01,366 --> 00:18:03,966 RECENT SURVEY. WHILE WOMEN ARE 638 00:18:04,033 --> 00:18:05,766 MORE DRIVEN TO REACH FINANCIAL 639 00:18:05,833 --> 00:18:07,700 INDEPENDENCE, THEY FALL BEHIND 640 00:18:07,766 --> 00:18:09,500 IN INVESTMENT AND SAVINGS, 641 00:18:09,566 --> 00:18:10,666 COMPARED WITH MEN. THAT'S 642 00:18:10,733 --> 00:18:13,300 ACCORDING TO A 2018 SURVEY 643 00:18:13,366 --> 00:18:15,600 CONDUCTED BY LOGICA RESEARCH ON 644 00:18:15,666 --> 00:18:20,900 YOUNG ADULTS AGED 16-25.>> 645 00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:21,666 Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: YOUNG 646 00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:22,366 WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO SAY 647 00:18:22,433 --> 00:18:22,966 THAT THEY WANTED TO BE 648 00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:23,666 FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT FROM 649 00:18:23,733 --> 00:18:24,366 THEIR PARENTS, AND THAT THEY 650 00:18:24,433 --> 00:18:25,333 UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE OF 651 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,933 PLANNING FOR THEIR FUTURE. THEY 652 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,800 WERE MORE LIKELY TO SPEND 30% 653 00:18:29,866 --> 00:18:31,433 LESS MONEY THAN YOUNG MEN, THEY 654 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,466 WERE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A 655 00:18:34,533 --> 00:18:35,166 SECOND JOB, BUT THEY HAD 40% 656 00:18:35,233 --> 00:18:38,233 LESS IN SAVINGS. 657 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:38,766 >> Bonnie: CARRIE 658 00:18:38,833 --> 00:18:39,466 SCHWAB-POMERANTZ, BOARD CHAIR 659 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:40,533 AND PRESIDENT OF THE CHARLES 660 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,200 SCHWAB FOUNDATION, SAYS THE 661 00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:43,933 MATH DOESN'T WORK UNTIL YOU DIG 662 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,800 A LITTLE DEEPER. 663 00:18:44,866 --> 00:18:45,500 >> Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: 664 00:18:45,566 --> 00:18:47,833 HALF OF THE YOUNG WOMEN WERE 665 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:48,766 LIKELY TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT 666 00:18:48,833 --> 00:18:51,033 ACCOUNT VERSUS THE BOYS. AND IF 667 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,200 YOU ASK THEM, IF WE IF I, YOU 668 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:54,633 KNOW, IF WE GAVE YOU EXTRA 669 00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:55,900 CASH, WOULD YOU INVEST IT AND 670 00:18:55,966 --> 00:18:57,166 ONLY HALF THE NUMBER OF YOUNG 671 00:18:57,233 --> 00:18:59,666 WOMEN SAID YES. SO WE'RE 672 00:18:59,733 --> 00:19:00,633 FALLING BEHIND RIGHT AWAY. 673 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,233 >> Bonnie: THE FINANCIAL 674 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:03,933 GENDER GAP COULD BE NARROWED IF 675 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,300 WOMEN IMPROVED THEIR MANAGEMENT 676 00:19:05,366 --> 00:19:05,900 OF DAY-TO-DAY FINANCES, 677 00:19:05,966 --> 00:19:06,633 ACCORDING TO SCHWAB-POMERANTZ. 678 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:07,333 >> Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: 679 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,400 BUT THEN THEY WERE MORE LIKELY 680 00:19:09,466 --> 00:19:10,933 TO BORROW FROM THEIR PARENTS, 681 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,800 THEY WERE ALSO MORE LIKELY TO 682 00:19:13,866 --> 00:19:15,933 SKIP A CREDIT CARD PAYMENT. SO 683 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,400 SOME OF IT JUST LOOKS IT DIDN'T 684 00:19:17,466 --> 00:19:19,633 DIDN'T REALLY ADD UP. 685 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:20,400 SO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET, 686 00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:23,233 THEY HAVE THE RIGHT DESIRES, 687 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:25,333 IT'S IS PUTTING THEM INTO 688 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:25,666 ACTION. 689 00:19:25,733 --> 00:19:26,833 IT COULD BE JUST THE PRESSURES, 690 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:27,966 THE SOCIAL PRESSURES AMONG 691 00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:30,133 THEIR FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, 692 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,600 DRESSING NICELY. 693 00:19:30,666 --> 00:19:31,500 >> Bonnie: PARENTS TEND TO 694 00:19:31,566 --> 00:19:33,266 TEACH SONS ABOUT BUILDING 695 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:34,933 WEALTH WHILE TEACHING DAUGHTERS 696 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 ABOUT FISCAL RESTRAINT. THEY 697 00:19:37,066 --> 00:19:39,533 THEREBY SET UP DIFFERENT 698 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,233 FINANCIAL EXPECTATIONS FROM 699 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:40,600 EARLY ON. 700 00:19:40,666 --> 00:19:41,433 >> Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: 701 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,000 PARENTS TALK TO THEIR DAUGHTERS 702 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:43,733 DIFFERENTLY THAN THEIR SONS 703 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,366 WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY. 704 00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:46,433 WITH THEIR DAUGHTERS, THEY TALK 705 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,666 ABOUT THE SHORT TERM CONCEPTS, 706 00:19:48,733 --> 00:19:49,766 YOU KNOW, SUCH AS SAVINGS AND 707 00:19:49,833 --> 00:19:51,500 HOUSEHOLD EXPENDITURES, BUT 708 00:19:51,566 --> 00:19:55,533 WITH THEIR SONS, THEY TALK 709 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,233 ABOUT STATE PLANNING, THE STOCK 710 00:19:57,300 --> 00:19:59,733 MARKET, BORROWING, YOU KNOW, 711 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,966 AND THIS, THAT'S ALL ABOUT 712 00:20:02,033 --> 00:20:02,600 WEALTH CREATION. SO KNOW, 713 00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:05,400 AGAIN, WE'RE SORT OF SETTING 714 00:20:05,466 --> 00:20:06,100 OUR DAUGHTERS UP FOR FAILURE, 715 00:20:06,166 --> 00:20:06,633 LONG TERM FAILURE. 716 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:07,900 >> Bonnie: SCHWAB-POMERANTZ 717 00:20:07,966 --> 00:20:09,600 SAT ON PRESIDENT GEORGE W 718 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:15,500 BUSH'S AND PRESIDENT BARAK 719 00:20:15,566 --> 00:20:16,233 OBAMA'S ADVISORY COUNCILS THAT 720 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:16,933 PROMOTED FINANCIAL LITERACY. 721 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,600 SHE ADVOCATES FOR TEACHING 722 00:20:17,666 --> 00:20:20,166 FINANCIAL LITERACY IN SCHOOLS. 723 00:20:20,233 --> 00:20:20,866 >> Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: 724 00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:23,300 ONLY 17 STATES IN THIS COUNTRY 725 00:20:23,366 --> 00:20:24,000 REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF PERSONAL 726 00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:26,500 FINANCE EMBEDDED IN CURRICULUM. 727 00:20:26,566 --> 00:20:27,900 AND THEN THERE'S ONLY FIVE 728 00:20:27,966 --> 00:20:29,100 STATES THAT REQUIRED AS A 729 00:20:29,166 --> 00:20:31,566 STANDALONE. AND THE FIRST STATE 730 00:20:31,633 --> 00:20:32,266 REQUIRED AS A STANDALONE WAS 731 00:20:32,333 --> 00:20:34,333 UTAH. AND THE REASON THAT THEY 732 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,900 REQUIRED OR THEY, YOU KNOW, 733 00:20:35,966 --> 00:20:37,833 WHERE DID THAT IS, BECAUSE THEY 734 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:38,533 SAW THAT THEY HAD SOME OF THE 735 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,000 HIGHEST BANKRUPTCY RATES IN THE 736 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:40,333 COUNTRY 737 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,833 >> Bonnie: SHE'S ALSO HELPED 738 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,266 CREATE A PROGRAM, MONEY 739 00:20:43,333 --> 00:20:44,000 MATTERS, FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS 740 00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:45,100 CLUBS OF AMERICA. 741 00:20:45,166 --> 00:20:47,466 >> Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz: 742 00:20:47,533 --> 00:20:48,800 WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT 743 00:20:48,866 --> 00:20:50,000 THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GO 744 00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:51,400 THROUGH OUR PROGRAM, THE MONEY 745 00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:53,000 MATTERS PROGRAM, ARE MORE 746 00:20:53,066 --> 00:20:53,733 LIKELY TO SEEK OUT COLLEGE AND 747 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,933 SEEK OUT SCHOLARSHIPS AND 748 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,233 FUNDING FOR COLLEGE. SO YOU 749 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:00,900 COULD SEE RIGHT THERE, THAT'S 750 00:21:00,966 --> 00:21:03,433 ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC MOBILITY, 751 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:04,600 AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR 752 00:21:04,666 --> 00:21:06,033 PEOPLE AND WHAT DIFFERENCE THAT 753 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,133 FINANCIAL LITERACY CAN MAKE IN 754 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,966 SOMEONE'S LIFE. 755 00:21:09,033 --> 00:21:10,133 >> Bonnie: WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE 756 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,133 A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE 757 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,300 UNIVERSAL FINANCIAL LITERACY 758 00:21:15,366 --> 00:21:17,400 CLASSES FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS, I 759 00:21:17,466 --> 00:21:19,233 MEAN, I CANNOT IMAGINE WHY IT'S 760 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:21,200 NOT BEING DONE ALREADY, BUT 761 00:21:21,266 --> 00:21:23,633 WHAT ABOUT -- WHO ARE THESE 762 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,400 PARENTS THAT ARE NOT TEACHING 763 00:21:24,466 --> 00:21:28,100 THEIR GIRLS TO BE FINANCIALLY 764 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:28,466 LITERATE? 765 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:29,200 I THOUGHT MY PARENTS DID IT AND 766 00:21:29,266 --> 00:21:30,100 THAT WAS 50 YEARS AGO. 767 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:32,200 >> OH, YEAH. I HAD TO PUT ASIDE 768 00:21:32,266 --> 00:21:34,066 ANY MONEY I MADE, A BIG PORTION 769 00:21:34,133 --> 00:21:35,866 OF THAT WENT INTO SAVINGS. 770 00:21:35,933 --> 00:21:36,566 YOU DID NOT TOUCH IT. 771 00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:37,566 >> I REMEMBER SAVING FOR MY 772 00:21:37,633 --> 00:21:39,733 VERY FIRST JOB -- I REMEMBER 773 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,333 NOT WORRYING ABOUT HAVING 774 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,366 ENOUGH MONEY TO RETIRE 775 00:21:45,433 --> 00:21:46,033 COMFORTABLY IN MY FIRST JOB 776 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,400 WHEN I WAS ABOUT 19 YEARS OLD 777 00:21:47,466 --> 00:21:48,100 AND PUTTING PART OF THAT AWAY. 778 00:21:48,166 --> 00:21:52,233 I MEAN, WHAT'S -- 779 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:53,100 >> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING 780 00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:54,400 BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET 781 00:21:54,466 --> 00:21:55,900 THE TAKE AWAY. 782 00:21:55,966 --> 00:21:56,500 AS SHE SAID, THERE ARE 783 00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:59,666 CONFLICTING THINGS GOING ON 784 00:21:59,733 --> 00:21:59,966 HERE. 785 00:22:00,033 --> 00:22:00,666 I WONDER IF IT'S NOT ALSO A 786 00:22:00,733 --> 00:22:02,800 CONFIDENCE THING, TO DREAM BIG 787 00:22:02,866 --> 00:22:03,733 LIKE THE GUYS. 788 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,266 THEY ARE INVESTING, LOOKING 789 00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:06,900 INTO THE FUTURE, MAKING MONEY. 790 00:22:06,966 --> 00:22:09,066 WOMEN ARE MORE HOARDING AND 791 00:22:09,133 --> 00:22:11,133 HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND TAUGHT THAT 792 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,400 WAY. 793 00:22:11,466 --> 00:22:14,366 I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S HOW WE 794 00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:15,100 TREAT AND TEACH OUR WOMEN THAT 795 00:22:15,166 --> 00:22:16,333 YOU ARE NOT THE BIG PICTURE 796 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,233 PEOPLE, YOU WILL NOT BE MAKING 797 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:18,966 THE MONEY, YOU WILL BE TAKING 798 00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:22,766 CARE OF THE LITERAL THINGS. 799 00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:24,066 >> I DID SEMINARS ON THE SPREAD 800 00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:25,500 FINANCIAL LITERACY AND TEACHING 801 00:22:25,566 --> 00:22:27,733 NEGOTIATION ARE NOT SKILLS THEY 802 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,300 PICK UP AT HOME. 803 00:22:29,366 --> 00:22:30,566 IT'S THE WAY MOST NUCLEAR 804 00:22:30,633 --> 00:22:31,866 FAMILIES HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED, 805 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:33,933 AND IT'S STARTING TO CHANGE. 806 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,133 IT'S SLOW. 807 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,866 IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST 808 00:22:35,933 --> 00:22:37,066 IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO FOR 809 00:22:37,133 --> 00:22:39,733 WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT NEXT TO 810 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,366 TEACHING WOMEN'S HISTORY. 811 00:22:40,433 --> 00:22:41,100 >> ALSO SEEING MORE WOMEN WHO 812 00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:43,633 ARE BREADWINNERS NOW AND THEIR 813 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:44,000 FAMILIES. 814 00:22:44,066 --> 00:22:45,900 I ALSO FEEL LIKE -- 815 00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:47,333 >> YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I DON'T 816 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,533 THINK SHE MENTIONED WAS WOMEN, 817 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,800 IF THEY HAVE MONEY, ARE MUCH 818 00:22:50,866 --> 00:22:54,866 MORE LIKELY TO SPEND IT ON 819 00:22:54,933 --> 00:22:55,500 THEIR KIDS AND SAVE FOR 820 00:22:55,566 --> 00:22:56,300 RETIREMENT> I ACTUALLY 821 00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:57,733 DON'T REALLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF 822 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,633 I AGREE WITH THE PACKAGE ON 823 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,100 WHAT SHE'S SAYING, BECAUSE I 824 00:23:01,166 --> 00:23:03,966 KNOW SO MANY WOMEN WHO -- I 825 00:23:04,033 --> 00:23:06,133 MEAN , I WISH I WAS TAUGHT LIKE 826 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 THAT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. 827 00:23:08,666 --> 00:23:09,266 I THINK FINANCIAL LITERACY 828 00:23:09,333 --> 00:23:10,266 TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER -- I 829 00:23:10,333 --> 00:23:11,666 DON'T KNOW, NOW I WONDER WHY WE 830 00:23:11,733 --> 00:23:13,766 WERE LEARNING ALGEBRA WHEN WE 831 00:23:13,833 --> 00:23:15,133 SHOULD'VE BEEN TALK MORE ABOUT 832 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,766 MONEY MANAGEMENT. 833 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:17,900 ASIDE FROM THAT, MANY WOMEN I 834 00:23:17,966 --> 00:23:20,300 KNOW OF DIFFERENT AGES, THEY 835 00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:21,100 ARE THE BOSS. 836 00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:22,533 I LOOK AT THEM AND I'M LIKE, 837 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,733 WOW, I WISH I COULD BE LIKE 838 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,400 THAT ABOUT WHETHER THEY OWN 839 00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:26,666 THEIR OWN BUSINESS OR AN 840 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:28,533 INVESTMENT BANKER, WHETHER THEY 841 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,833 ARE THE BREADWINNER, I KNOW A 842 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:31,500 LOT OF TV ANCHORS. 843 00:23:31,566 --> 00:23:33,566 IT'S AMAZING. 844 00:23:33,633 --> 00:23:34,033 I APPLAUD WOMEN. 845 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:35,066 >> SO YOU ARE REFERRING TO AN 846 00:23:35,133 --> 00:23:36,500 ANECDOTAL SLICE OF A PRIVILEGE 847 00:23:36,566 --> 00:23:38,300 SEGMENT OF AMERICAN SOCIETY. 848 00:23:38,366 --> 00:23:39,633 IT WAS EMBARRASSING TO ME ABOUT 849 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:41,766 THE PACKAGES THE IDEA THAT IT'S 850 00:23:41,833 --> 00:23:43,266 NEVER BEEN EASIER TO MAKE YOUR 851 00:23:43,333 --> 00:23:45,400 MONEY WORK FOR YOU WHEN YOU ARE 852 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:45,766 USING IT. 853 00:23:45,833 --> 00:23:47,766 THERE APPS LIKE ROBIN HOOD, 854 00:23:47,833 --> 00:23:54,300 QUEEN BASE WHERE YOU CAN INVEST 855 00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:55,133 IN CRYPTO. 856 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,866 THE FACT THAT WOMEN, I BELIEVE 857 00:23:55,933 --> 00:23:56,533 THEY ARE REFERRING TO GEN Z 858 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,266 WOMEN, ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE 859 00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:57,600 OF THAT. 860 00:23:57,666 --> 00:23:58,300 >> BUT ON THE FLIPSIDE, THERE 861 00:23:58,366 --> 00:24:00,566 IS ALSO -- THERE IS PAYPAL, 862 00:24:00,633 --> 00:24:07,033 THEN VENMO, YOU CAN SPEND YOUR 863 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:08,066 MONEY WILL ALLOW -- 864 00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:08,333 >> 865 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,966 [CROSS TALK] 866 00:24:09,033 --> 00:24:09,666 >> THE FIRST THING YOU LEARN 867 00:24:09,733 --> 00:24:12,066 ANY ECONOMICS OR FINANCE CLASS 868 00:24:12,133 --> 00:24:13,233 CI, STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL, 869 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:14,000 RETURNS ON INVESTMENT OR 870 00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:17,933 GREATER THAN ON LABOR. 871 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,933 SO THERE'S IMMEDIACY TO GEN Z 872 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,233 THAT IT THINK DOESN'T -- DID 873 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,500 NOT EXIST FOR MY GENERATION, 874 00:24:24,566 --> 00:24:25,233 MILLENNIALS, BECAUSE WE DO NOT 875 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:27,333 GROW UP WITH THE CELL PHONE IN 876 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:27,733 THE POCKET. 877 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,466 THAT BEING SAID, IT'S NEVER 878 00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:30,166 BEEN EASIER TO LEARN THE INS 879 00:24:30,233 --> 00:24:32,266 AND OUTS OF TRAINING, EACH 880 00:24:32,333 --> 00:24:32,666 DAYTRADING. 881 00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:34,533 SO IF GIRLS ARE NOT TAKING 882 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,966 ADVANTAGE, THAT'S NOT THE 883 00:24:36,033 --> 00:24:36,633 PATRIOTIC, THAT'S GROSS NOT 884 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,433 TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THEIR 885 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:39,766 FUTURE. 886 00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:40,400 >> I DID NOT GET TO ECON 887 00:24:40,466 --> 00:24:41,500 CLASSES UNTIL I WENT TO 888 00:24:41,566 --> 00:24:45,266 COLLEGE.> IT'S RIGHT IN YOUR 889 00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:45,600 POCKET. 890 00:24:45,666 --> 00:24:47,133 >> WE ARE OUT OF THE TIME. 891 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,566 GREAT DEBATE. 892 00:24:47,633 --> 00:24:48,500 WE WILL CONTINUE SOME OTHER 893 00:24:48,566 --> 00:24:49,166 TIME. 894 00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:50,733 THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION. 895 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,066 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AND 896 00:24:52,133 --> 00:24:53,033 VISIT OUR WEBSITE, 897 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,866 PBS.ORG/TOTHECONTRARY. WHETHER 898 00:24:55,933 --> 00:24:57,600 YOU AGREE OR THINK, TO THE 899 00:24:57,666 --> 00:25:30,400 CONTRARY, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 900 00:25:30,466 --> 00:25:31,800 FOR A TRANSCRIPT OR SEE AN 901 00:25:31,866 --> 00:25:33,933 ONLINE EPISODE OF "TO THE 902 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,166 CONTRARY," PLEASE VISIT OUR PBS 903 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:37,066 WEBSITE AT 904 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:44,066 PBS.ORG/TOTHECONTRARY.