1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:07,100 >> WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE 2 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,466 OF GETTING THE SENATE BACK IN 3 00:00:09,466 --> 00:00:11,266 2020. 4 00:00:11,266 --> 00:00:13,166 WE NEED A CLEAR CANDIDATE WITH 5 00:00:13,166 --> 00:00:17,666 A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE, WE NEED 6 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:20,500 TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. 7 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:27,966 >> BONNIE: HELLO, I'M BONNIE 8 00:00:27,966 --> 00:00:30,466 ERBE. 9 00:00:30,466 --> 00:00:32,000 WELCOME TO THE CONTRARY. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,733 THIS WEEK WE REPRESENT 11 00:00:32,733 --> 00:00:34,833 REPRESENTATIVE DONNA SHALAL. 12 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:35,900 FORMER SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND 13 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:36,866 HUMAN SERVICES UNDER BILL 14 00:00:36,866 --> 00:00:38,400 CLINTON. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,633 SHE'S ALSO BEEN AT THE HELM OF 16 00:00:40,633 --> 00:00:40,700 TWO MAJOR UNIVERSITY AS WELL AS 17 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:43,466 THE CLINTON FOUNDATION. 18 00:00:43,466 --> 00:00:47,266 NOW, SHE REPRESENTS FLORIDA'SEN 19 00:00:47,266 --> 00:00:48,166 27TH DISTRICT. 20 00:00:48,166 --> 00:00:49,566 WELCOME, DONNA SHALAL. 21 00:00:49,566 --> 00:00:51,133 WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH. 22 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:51,933 YOU SAT IN AS HOSTED OF THE 23 00:00:51,933 --> 00:00:53,033 SHOW MANY YEARS AGO SO WE HAVE 24 00:00:53,033 --> 00:00:54,666 KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME. 25 00:00:54,666 --> 00:00:56,866 NOW, TELL ME ABOUT WHICH IS I'M 26 00:00:56,866 --> 00:00:58,033 SURE THE QUESTION YOU'RE 27 00:00:58,033 --> 00:00:59,433 GETTING ALL OVER THE PLACE, WHY 28 00:00:59,433 --> 00:01:02,500 -- WHAT MADE YOU RUN FOR 29 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:03,900 CONGRESS AFTER HAVING BEEN A 30 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:05,100 CABINET SECRETARY? 31 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:07,066 >> YOU KNOW, I WOKE UP ONE 32 00:01:07,066 --> 00:01:07,733 MORNING IN THE SPRING AND I 33 00:01:07,733 --> 00:01:08,700 TURNED DOWN THE TELEVISION AND 34 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,000 I JUST GOT PISSED OFF WHAT WAS 35 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,666 GOING ON IN WASHINGTON. 36 00:01:13,666 --> 00:01:14,700 IT LOOK LIKE -- I MEAN OUR 37 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:16,500 COUNTRY WAS IN BIG TROUBLE WITH 38 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:19,333 THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT WAS 39 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,466 GOING NONE WASHINGTON. 40 00:01:20,466 --> 00:01:23,366 NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT BUT THE 41 00:01:23,366 --> 00:01:24,033 CONGRESS ITSELF AND I JUST 42 00:01:24,033 --> 00:01:25,666 COULDN'T STAND ON THE 43 00:01:25,666 --> 00:01:26,833 SIDELINES. 44 00:01:26,833 --> 00:01:29,000 >> BONNIE: NOW, YOU TOOK A 45 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,366 DISTRICT FOR MANY YEARS WAS 46 00:01:30,366 --> 00:01:32,266 REPRESENTED BY A REPUBLICAN AND 47 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:35,266 YOU RAN AGAINST LATINA. 48 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:36,000 HOW DID YOU WIN? 49 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,466 >> DONNA. 50 00:01:36,466 --> 00:01:38,566 FIRST OF ALL I WAS VERY WELL 51 00:01:38,566 --> 00:01:39,266 KNOWN. 52 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:39,333 SECOND I COULD HIT THE GROUND 53 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:40,833 RUNNING. 54 00:01:40,833 --> 00:01:43,133 I KNEW WASHINGTON THAT I HAD 55 00:01:43,133 --> 00:01:43,666 LIVED IN THE DISTRICT FOR 56 00:01:43,666 --> 00:01:47,066 ALMOST 20 YEARS AND THAT THEY 57 00:01:47,066 --> 00:01:48,433 NEW ME. 58 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:49,966 THEY KNEW THAT I HAD DELIVERED 59 00:01:49,966 --> 00:01:51,766 THEY UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. 60 00:01:51,766 --> 00:01:53,233 THERE IS GREAT PRIDE IN THE 61 00:01:53,233 --> 00:01:53,633 SUCCESS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF 62 00:01:53,633 --> 00:01:55,766 MIAMI. 63 00:01:55,766 --> 00:01:57,466 THEY KNEW ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE 64 00:01:57,466 --> 00:01:58,933 I WAS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY 65 00:01:58,933 --> 00:02:01,200 AND I RECEIVED VOTES FROM ALL 66 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,300 SEGMENTS INCLUDING REPUBLICANS. 67 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:04,300 >> BONNIE: WHAT CHANGES DID 68 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:05,100 YOU MAKE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 69 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,133 MIAMI AND HOW DID YOU IMPROVE 70 00:02:07,133 --> 00:02:07,400 IT? 71 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,400 >> DONNA: WE MOVED INTO THE 72 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,100 TOP RANKS OF AMERICAN 73 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:11,933 UNIVERSITIES. 74 00:02:11,933 --> 00:02:13,500 WE BUILT A HUGE MEDICAL 75 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:15,366 COMPLEX, SOME OF THE BEST 76 00:02:15,366 --> 00:02:16,900 DOCTORS IN THE WORLD THAT WE 77 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:17,866 RECRUITED. 78 00:02:17,866 --> 00:02:20,000 WE IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF THE 79 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,600 UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT BODY. 80 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,200 WE HAD A $6 BILLION IMPACT ON 81 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,700 THE ECONOMY. 82 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:26,466 IN OUR COMMUNITY. 83 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:30,533 SO IT IS A REMARKABLE SMALL 84 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:33,233 15,000 STUDENT PRIVATE 85 00:02:33,233 --> 00:02:33,300 UNIVERSITY THAT HAS HAD AN 86 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:35,166 ENORMOUS IMPACT. 87 00:02:35,166 --> 00:02:37,066 >> BONNIE: SO TELL ME WHAT IS 88 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:37,866 ANYONE ON YOUR LEGISLATIVE 89 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:38,666 CALENDAR? 90 00:02:38,666 --> 00:02:41,266 >> DONNA: IT HAS TO BE HEALTH 91 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:41,866 CARE. 92 00:02:41,866 --> 00:02:42,600 STOPPING THE ASSAULT ON 93 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,666 PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. 94 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:47,366 THIS ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING 95 00:02:47,366 --> 00:02:48,966 THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL 96 00:02:48,966 --> 00:02:50,233 HAVE FILED TO ELIMINATE 97 00:02:50,233 --> 00:02:53,733 PREEXISTING CONDITIONS COVERAGE 98 00:02:53,733 --> 00:02:53,800 AS A REQUIREMENT NOT JUST IN 99 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,133 THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT BUT IN 100 00:02:57,133 --> 00:02:58,466 OTHER HEALTH CARE THAT THE 101 00:02:58,466 --> 00:03:01,333 GOVERNMENT PROVIDES AND IT'S 102 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:02,566 VERY DANGEROUS. 103 00:03:02,566 --> 00:03:04,333 IF YOU DON'T COVER PREEXISTING 104 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:04,933 CONDITIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE 105 00:03:04,933 --> 00:03:06,600 INSURANCE. 106 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,700 WE WOULD HAVE MADE TECHNICAL 107 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:08,400 CORRECTIONS BUT THE REPUBLICANS 108 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,133 WOULDN'T LET US RIGHT AFTER THE 109 00:03:10,133 --> 00:03:12,433 BILL WAS PASSED. 110 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:14,366 THE SUBSIDIES ARE PROBABLY NOT 111 00:03:14,366 --> 00:03:16,300 DEEP ENOUGH AND IF YOU DON'T 112 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:18,400 GET SUBSIDIES, YOU'RE IN THE 113 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,100 MIDDLE CLASS PROBABLY GETTING 114 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:22,300 HAMMERED BY THE HEALTH 115 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,100 INSURANCE SYSTEM IN THIS 116 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:23,633 COUNTRY. 117 00:03:23,633 --> 00:03:25,366 THE INCREASES ARE STEADYING OUT 118 00:03:25,366 --> 00:03:27,200 A LITTLE BIT. 119 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,900 BUT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS 120 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:31,400 REALLY UNSETTLE THE MARKET AND 121 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,000 WE'VE GOT LOTS MORE PEOPLE THAT 122 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,300 WE WANT TO COVER WITH HEALTH 123 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:35,666 INSURANCE. 124 00:03:35,666 --> 00:03:36,500 >> BONNIE: UNSETTLE THE MARKET 125 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:38,166 MEANING CAUSED INCREASES IN 126 00:03:38,166 --> 00:03:38,866 PREMIUMS? 127 00:03:38,866 --> 00:03:41,900 >> DONNA: FORCED INCREASES. 128 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:43,200 WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DO 129 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,166 THEY TRY TO PREDICT WHAT IS 130 00:03:44,166 --> 00:03:46,433 GOING TO HAPPEN IN WASHINGTON. 131 00:03:46,433 --> 00:03:47,433 THEY COULDN'T READ THE 132 00:03:47,433 --> 00:03:47,500 ADMINISTRATION. 133 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,166 THEY JACKED UP THEIR RATES TO 134 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:50,700 PROTECT THEMSELVES. 135 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:52,366 AS SOON AS THE PRESIDENT 136 00:03:52,366 --> 00:03:53,566 REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT THAT 137 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:55,900 EVERYBODY HAD TO HAVE HEALTH 138 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,200 INSURANCE, THAT CAUSED LOTS OF 139 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,000 CONSTERMATION IN THE MARKET. 140 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,066 SO SOME OF THAT HAS SETTLED 141 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,300 DOWN, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE 142 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:05,000 DEMOCRATS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE 143 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,033 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 144 00:04:06,033 --> 00:04:07,800 BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE WANT TO 145 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,666 SETTLE DOWN THE MARKET. 146 00:04:09,666 --> 00:04:10,633 WE WANT TO KEEP COSTS DOWN AND 147 00:04:10,633 --> 00:04:12,833 EVERYBODY WANTS TO DEAL WITH 148 00:04:12,833 --> 00:04:14,800 PHARMACEUTICAL COSTS. 149 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,000 DRUG COSTS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE 150 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,633 JUST TOO HIGH, NOT PREDICTABLE. 151 00:04:19,633 --> 00:04:22,100 EITHER FOR INDIVIDUALS OR FOR 152 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:23,033 CORPORATIONS. 153 00:04:23,033 --> 00:04:24,033 THEY'RE GOING CRAZY AS WELL. 154 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:25,500 SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VERY 155 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:27,400 HARD LOOK AT DRUG COSTS. 156 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,066 I LIVE IN AN AREA IN WHICH SEA 157 00:04:32,066 --> 00:04:33,400 LEVEL RISE, CLIMATE CHANGES, 158 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,600 LIFE OR DEATH FOR SOUTH 159 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,166 FLORIDA. 160 00:04:36,166 --> 00:04:36,900 AND SO DEALING WITH THE 161 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:40,266 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES TAKING A 162 00:04:40,266 --> 00:04:44,100 GIANT STEP, PROTECTING THE 163 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:44,466 EVERGLADE AND CLEAN WATER, 164 00:04:44,466 --> 00:04:47,266 BUILDING SEA WALLS. 165 00:04:47,266 --> 00:04:48,700 THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN SOUTH 166 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:49,966 FLORIDA AND THEN GUN CONTROL. 167 00:04:49,966 --> 00:04:51,666 WE'VE GOT TO AT THE MINIMUM DO 168 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:53,400 SOMETHING ABOUT BACKGROUND 169 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,000 CHECKS BUT I'D LIKE TO DO AN 170 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,566 ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. 171 00:04:56,566 --> 00:04:57,766 WE DID IT IN '94. 172 00:04:57,766 --> 00:04:58,866 I THINK WE CERTAINLY OUGHT TO 173 00:04:58,866 --> 00:05:00,933 TRY TO DO IT NOW. 174 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:02,233 >> BONNIE: HEALTH CARE. 175 00:05:02,233 --> 00:05:02,300 PRESIDENT TRUMP CAMPAIGNED 176 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:05,700 AGAINST IT. 177 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:06,533 IT SEEMED AT THE TIME ANYWAY 178 00:05:06,533 --> 00:05:09,133 THAT THE COUNTRY WAS AGREEING 179 00:05:09,133 --> 00:05:11,300 WITH HIM OR MAJORITY OF VOTERS 180 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:12,333 WERE AGREEING WITH HIM ON THAT 181 00:05:12,333 --> 00:05:13,333 POINT AND, THEN, ALL OF A 182 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,933 SUDDEN, ONCE HE STARTED TO 183 00:05:15,933 --> 00:05:18,400 REALLY DISMANTLE IT, HEALTH 184 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,733 CARE BECAME -- THE ACA BECAME 185 00:05:20,733 --> 00:05:22,266 VERY POPULAR. 186 00:05:22,266 --> 00:05:25,166 CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT PUBLIC 187 00:05:25,166 --> 00:05:26,533 OPINION SHIFT, WHICH WAS PRETTY 188 00:05:26,533 --> 00:05:28,400 MASSIVE HAPPENED? 189 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,033 >> DONNA: FIRST OF ALL THEY 190 00:05:31,033 --> 00:05:32,266 PAINTED ON REPEAL AND REPLACE. 191 00:05:32,266 --> 00:05:33,766 THEY HAD THE VOTES ON REPEAL 192 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:35,200 BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES 193 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,100 FOR REPLACE. 194 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:37,800 THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REPLACE THAT 195 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,200 MADE ANY KIND SENSE. 196 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,200 IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS MIAMI 197 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,933 BASICALLY, ALL OF MIAMI, 198 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:46,000 100,000 PEOPLE HAVE THE ACA. 199 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,566 HAVE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE 200 00:05:47,566 --> 00:05:48,266 THROUGH THE ACCOUNTABLE CARE 201 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:50,400 ACT THROUGH OBAMA CARE. 202 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,700 BOY, THEY DO NOT WANT THAT 203 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:53,600 INSURANCE TO DISAPPEAR BECAUSE 204 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,466 THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN 205 00:05:55,466 --> 00:05:55,933 GET INSURANCE. 206 00:05:55,933 --> 00:05:56,600 >> BONNIE: WHERE WERE THEY 207 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,566 WHEN TRUMP WAS RUNNING AND 208 00:05:57,566 --> 00:05:58,900 SAYING LET'S REPEAL AND 209 00:05:58,900 --> 00:05:59,933 REPLACE. 210 00:05:59,933 --> 00:06:02,933 >> DONNA: IT WAS KIND OF A 211 00:06:02,933 --> 00:06:06,233 REBELLION AGAINST THE STABILITY 212 00:06:06,233 --> 00:06:07,400 MENTAL. 213 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,566 WHAT THE PRESIDENT DEMONSTRATED 214 00:06:08,566 --> 00:06:08,633 HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HEALTH 215 00:06:08,633 --> 00:06:09,766 CARE. 216 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:11,233 HE COULDN'T MAKE THE CASE TO 217 00:06:11,233 --> 00:06:12,566 REPEAL AND REPLACE NOR COULD 218 00:06:12,566 --> 00:06:13,366 THE REPUBLICANS. 219 00:06:13,366 --> 00:06:14,700 THE STRATEGY FOR THE 220 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:15,733 ACCOUNTABLE CARE ACT IS A 221 00:06:15,733 --> 00:06:17,266 REPUBLICAN IDEA. 222 00:06:17,266 --> 00:06:18,066 IT CAME OUT OF THE HERITAGE 223 00:06:18,066 --> 00:06:19,833 FOUNDATION. 224 00:06:19,833 --> 00:06:20,600 SO IT'S BEEN A REPUBLICAN IDEA 225 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,833 FOR A LONG TIME. 226 00:06:22,833 --> 00:06:23,733 BUILD EXCHANGES, GIVE PEOPLE 227 00:06:23,733 --> 00:06:26,733 CHOICES, PROVIDE SUBSIDIES FOR 228 00:06:26,733 --> 00:06:29,100 THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT. 229 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:30,633 AND FILL IN THE GAPS FOR THOSE 230 00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:32,133 THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT. 231 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:32,900 >> BONNIE: IS THAT A GOOD WAY 232 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:35,433 TO DO IT, DEMOCRATS AGREE THAT 233 00:06:35,433 --> 00:06:38,400 IS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT. 234 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,733 >> DONNA: THAT IS A BIG DEBATE 235 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:42,566 WE ALL BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL 236 00:06:42,566 --> 00:06:42,633 COVERAGE AND ALL BELIEVE THAT 237 00:06:42,633 --> 00:06:44,433 HEALTH CARE OUGHT TO BE A 238 00:06:44,433 --> 00:06:45,233 RIGHT. 239 00:06:45,233 --> 00:06:47,600 WE ALL BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO HAVE 240 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,300 INSURANCE, GOOD INNOCENCE THAT 241 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:50,400 IS AFFORDABLE THAT'S OF GREAT 242 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,700 QUALITY THAT PRODUCES GREAT 243 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:54,666 OUTCOMES FOR EVERYONE. 244 00:06:54,666 --> 00:06:57,400 AND WE OUGHT TO COVER EVERY 245 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,266 ONE. 246 00:06:58,266 --> 00:06:59,033 WHAT WE DON'T AGREE ON PROBABLY 247 00:06:59,033 --> 00:07:01,833 IS WHAT THE STRATEGY SHOULD BE. 248 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:03,566 SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SINGLE 249 00:07:03,566 --> 00:07:05,300 PAYER. 250 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:08,533 OTHER PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WE 251 00:07:08,533 --> 00:07:09,366 SHOULD SHORE UP THE REPORTABLE 252 00:07:09,366 --> 00:07:11,666 CARE ACT, IMPROVE MEDICARE 253 00:07:11,666 --> 00:07:13,166 AROUND LET PEOPLE BUY INTO 254 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,766 MEDICARE THAT CAN'T FIT INTO 255 00:07:15,766 --> 00:07:17,600 ONE OF THE PROGRAMS. 256 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,433 >> BONNIE: GUN CONTROL, OF 257 00:07:18,433 --> 00:07:20,500 COURSE UNDER PRESIDENT CLINTON 258 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:21,466 AUTOMATIC WEAPONS WERE BANNED 259 00:07:21,466 --> 00:07:23,233 AND IT WAS THAT WAY FOR 10 260 00:07:23,233 --> 00:07:24,066 YEARS. 261 00:07:24,066 --> 00:07:25,733 HOW IS IT HAPPENED THAT THAT IS 262 00:07:25,733 --> 00:07:27,333 LEGAL NOW AND THAT KIDS CAN GET 263 00:07:27,333 --> 00:07:30,066 THEM AND GO INTO CUES SCHOOLS 264 00:07:30,066 --> 00:07:31,033 AND KILL OTHER KIDS? 265 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:32,633 >> DONNA: IT IS A COMPLICATED 266 00:07:32,633 --> 00:07:34,333 ISSUE POLITICALLY. 267 00:07:34,333 --> 00:07:35,733 MORALLY IT IS NOT A COMPLICATED 268 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:37,933 ISSUE AT ALL. 269 00:07:37,933 --> 00:07:38,000 WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ASSAULT 270 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,766 WEAPONS. 271 00:07:39,766 --> 00:07:41,066 IT IS NOT A HUNTING RIFLE. 272 00:07:41,066 --> 00:07:41,833 IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE 273 00:07:41,833 --> 00:07:44,300 GOING TO USE TO PROTECT YOUR 274 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:45,033 HOME. 275 00:07:45,033 --> 00:07:46,533 IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE 276 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,133 MILITARY USES. 277 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:49,733 BUT THE NATIONAL RIFLE 278 00:07:49,733 --> 00:07:49,800 ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN VERY 279 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,300 POWERFUL AND HAS CONVINCED 280 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:54,700 AMERICANS THAT IT IS NOT AN 281 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:55,600 ASSAULT ON GUNS. 282 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,300 IT IS AN ASSAULT ON THE 283 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:58,266 CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED 284 00:07:58,266 --> 00:07:58,600 STATES. 285 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:58,666 FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE 286 00:07:58,666 --> 00:08:01,066 PERFECTLY WILLING TO SUPPORT 287 00:08:01,066 --> 00:08:04,000 THE SECOND AMENDMENT BUT WE DO 288 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,666 THINK THAT MILITARY STYLE 289 00:08:05,666 --> 00:08:08,500 WEAPONS OUGHT TO BE BANNED. 290 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,866 I COME FROM A FAMILY OF HUNTERS 291 00:08:10,866 --> 00:08:15,433 I'M FINE WITH HUNTING RIFLES -- 292 00:08:15,433 --> 00:08:16,733 >> BONNIE: WHERE DID YOU GO 293 00:08:16,733 --> 00:08:17,100 WISCONSIN? 294 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:19,866 >> DONNA: I GREW UP WISCONSIN 295 00:08:19,866 --> 00:08:21,400 BUT MY BROTHER-IN-LAW LIVES IN 296 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,166 NORTH DAKOTA. MY BROTHER 297 00:08:23,166 --> 00:08:25,000 DOESN'T BELIEVE ANYONE SHOULD 298 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 HAVE ASSAULT RIFLES. 299 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,733 HE SAID JOIN THE ARMY IF YOU 300 00:08:26,733 --> 00:08:28,466 WANT TO SHOOT ONE OF THOSE 301 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:30,933 MILITARY TIME WEAPONS. 302 00:08:30,933 --> 00:08:31,000 AND MY FAMILY DOESN'T HAVE ANY 303 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,566 PROBLEM WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS. 304 00:08:35,566 --> 00:08:37,033 NOR DO MOST AMERICANS. 305 00:08:37,033 --> 00:08:38,933 AND MOST AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT 306 00:08:38,933 --> 00:08:39,833 ASSAULT WEAPONS OUGHT TO BE 307 00:08:39,833 --> 00:08:41,300 BANNED BUT THE POLITICS HAS 308 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:44,033 BEEN VERY DIFFICULT UP UNTIL 309 00:08:44,033 --> 00:08:44,833 NOW. 310 00:08:44,833 --> 00:08:46,600 WE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED AN 311 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,333 ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. 312 00:08:47,333 --> 00:08:48,833 WE PASSED THE BRADY BILL. 313 00:08:48,833 --> 00:08:51,333 OUR FIRST STEP WILL PROBABLY BE 314 00:08:51,333 --> 00:08:52,833 BACKGROUND STEMS. 315 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:53,633 >> BONNIE: CAN YOU GET THAT 316 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:55,533 THROUGH THE SENATE WHICH IS 317 00:08:55,533 --> 00:08:57,000 STILL REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED? 318 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,500 >> DONNA: I THINK SO. 319 00:08:58,500 --> 00:08:58,900 I THINK SO. 320 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:00,400 IT HAS TO BE BIPARTISAN. 321 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,600 THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WANT 322 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,500 IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PARTY 323 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,466 THEY BELONG TO BUT THE VAST 324 00:09:04,466 --> 00:09:05,366 MAJORITY WANT IT. 325 00:09:05,366 --> 00:09:07,866 THEY WANT TO PROTECT KIDS. 326 00:09:07,866 --> 00:09:08,800 THEY WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL 327 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,566 ABOUT WHO GETS ACCESS TO 328 00:09:09,566 --> 00:09:12,033 WEAPONS IN THIS COUNTRY. 329 00:09:12,033 --> 00:09:13,766 >> BONNIE: THE NRA, SOMETHING 330 00:09:13,766 --> 00:09:16,366 INTERESTED HAPPENED. 331 00:09:16,366 --> 00:09:17,933 THEY LOST LIKE THEIR DONATIONS 332 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:19,166 WENT DOWN BY I THINK IT WAS 20% 333 00:09:19,166 --> 00:09:22,933 LAST YEAR. 334 00:09:22,933 --> 00:09:23,666 HAVE THEY OVERREACHED ARE THEY 335 00:09:23,666 --> 00:09:25,166 AT THE POINT NOW WHERE 336 00:09:25,166 --> 00:09:26,366 AMERICANS SAY TO THEMSELVES, 337 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:29,733 GEE, AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. 338 00:09:29,733 --> 00:09:32,733 THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO BE 339 00:09:32,733 --> 00:09:34,600 AGAINST. 340 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,366 >> DONNA: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE 341 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:35,666 THEM. 342 00:09:35,666 --> 00:09:36,866 I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE 20% 343 00:09:36,866 --> 00:09:39,033 LESS INCOME I WOULD NOT 344 00:09:39,033 --> 00:09:41,200 UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE 345 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,066 NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND 346 00:09:42,066 --> 00:09:43,733 THEIR ABILITY TO GIVE MONEY TO 347 00:09:43,733 --> 00:09:46,433 VARIOUS CANDIDATES OR TO MAKE 348 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:49,400 THEIR CASE TO THE MEDIA. 349 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,533 HERE'S THE STORY. 350 00:09:50,533 --> 00:09:51,766 I WAS CAMPAIGNING IN A 351 00:09:51,766 --> 00:09:53,333 RESTAURANT. 352 00:09:53,333 --> 00:09:54,833 I MET A YOUNG FAMILY AND THE 353 00:09:54,833 --> 00:09:54,900 MOTHER WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO 354 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:57,133 HER YOUNG SON WHO WAS ABOUT 10 355 00:09:57,133 --> 00:10:00,766 YEARS OLD, HEY, SHE'S RUNNING 356 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:03,833 FOR CONGRESS. 357 00:10:03,833 --> 00:10:04,866 HE COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND 358 00:10:04,866 --> 00:10:05,133 IT. 359 00:10:05,133 --> 00:10:06,500 HE SAID YOU RUNNING FOR 360 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:07,666 PRESIDENT AND I SAID NO ALREADY 361 00:10:07,666 --> 00:10:08,433 I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AND I 362 00:10:08,433 --> 00:10:10,800 HAD TO EXPLAIN CONGRESS TO HIM. 363 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,533 AND I SAID WHAT DO YOU WANT TO 364 00:10:11,533 --> 00:10:12,466 BE WHEN YOU GROW UP? 365 00:10:12,466 --> 00:10:14,066 HE SAID I WANT TO BE A POLICE 366 00:10:14,066 --> 00:10:14,400 OFFICER. 367 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,466 I SAID THAT IS PERFECT. 368 00:10:15,466 --> 00:10:17,100 BE A POLICE OFFICER. 369 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:18,200 THAT IS A GREAT PROFESSION. 370 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,333 WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE A POLICE 371 00:10:19,333 --> 00:10:19,666 OFFICER? 372 00:10:19,666 --> 00:10:20,400 HE SAID BECAUSE I WANT TO 373 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,300 PROTECT THE KIDS IN MY SCHOOL. 374 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:26,466 NO KID IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD 375 00:10:26,466 --> 00:10:28,733 GROW UP PICKING A PROFESSION 376 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:30,300 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROTECT 377 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:32,833 THE KIDS IN THEIR SCHOOL. 378 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,166 HE AND THE KIDS IN HIS SCHOOL 379 00:10:34,166 --> 00:10:36,000 SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT SAFETY. 380 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,533 I NEVER WORRIED ABOUT SAFETY 381 00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:39,866 WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP. 382 00:10:39,866 --> 00:10:41,500 THE KIDS IN THIS COUNTRY MANY 383 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:44,000 OF THEM ARE WORRIED BECAUSE OF 384 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,866 WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN SCHOOL, IN 385 00:10:46,866 --> 00:10:48,900 THE COMMUNITIES, IT'S NOT JUST 386 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:49,500 IN SCHOOLS. 387 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:50,066 IT IS NOT JUST PARK LAND OR 388 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:51,700 SANDY HOOK. 389 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:52,966 IT IS ALSO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN 390 00:10:52,966 --> 00:10:55,500 OUR COMMUNITY. 391 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,966 >> BONNIE: IS THE POLITICAL 392 00:10:57,966 --> 00:10:59,200 WAIVE THAT WE SAW WITH THE 393 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,700 REACTION TO PARK LAND OF THE -- 394 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:02,666 >> DONNA: THE 40 PEOPLE THAT 395 00:11:02,666 --> 00:11:04,500 FLIP SEATS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 396 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:05,966 THEM PAINTED ON THIS ISSUE. 397 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:08,333 I CERTAINLY DID. 398 00:11:08,333 --> 00:11:09,266 AND SO THEIR CAUSES IS EMBODIED 399 00:11:09,266 --> 00:11:10,933 IN ME AND IN SO MANY OF MY 400 00:11:10,933 --> 00:11:13,633 COLLEAGUES. 401 00:11:13,633 --> 00:11:13,700 >> BONNIE: DESCRIBE THE CLASS 402 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:14,933 TO ME. 403 00:11:14,933 --> 00:11:16,533 >> DONNA: THE CLASS IS VERY 404 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:17,466 DIVERSE. 405 00:11:17,466 --> 00:11:19,733 WE HAVE GOT A PEDIATRICIAN. 406 00:11:19,733 --> 00:11:20,866 WE'VE GOT A NURSE. 407 00:11:20,866 --> 00:11:22,233 WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE 408 00:11:22,233 --> 00:11:24,166 STATE LEGISLATORS. 409 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:24,700 WE HAVE GOT TWO NATIVE 410 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:26,600 AMERICANS, FIRST TWO NATIVE 411 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,366 AMERICAN WOMEN ELECTED 412 00:11:30,366 --> 00:11:31,033 EXTRAORDINARY WOMEN. 413 00:11:31,033 --> 00:11:32,700 SO IT IS -- IT IS A DIFFERENT 414 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,033 KIND OF CLASS. 415 00:11:34,033 --> 00:11:35,366 A DIFFERENT FEEL TO IT. 416 00:11:35,366 --> 00:11:37,100 IT IS NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT GREW 417 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:38,266 UP IN POLITICS. 418 00:11:38,266 --> 00:11:40,433 IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RAN 419 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:41,633 THEIR OWN BUSINESSES THAT HAD 420 00:11:41,633 --> 00:11:43,400 THEIR OWN SPECIALTIES BEFORE 421 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,100 THEY RAN FOR OFFICE. 422 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:46,100 >> BONNIE: WHO ARE MORE IN 423 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,300 TOUCH YOU THINK WITH GRASSROOTS 424 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:49,633 AMERICA? 425 00:11:49,633 --> 00:11:50,500 >> DONNA: EVERYBODY THINKS WE 426 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:51,900 RAN THE BIG NATIONAL CAMPAIGNS 427 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:53,100 AND WE DIDN'T RUN A NATIONAL 428 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:53,466 CAMPAIGN. 429 00:11:53,466 --> 00:11:57,233 I TALKED AS MUCH ABOUT TRAFFIC 430 00:11:57,233 --> 00:11:58,900 AS I DID ABOUT BIG ISSUES LIKE 431 00:11:58,900 --> 00:11:58,966 HEALTH CARE. 432 00:11:58,966 --> 00:12:03,366 >> DONNA: NANCY PELOS. 433 00:12:03,366 --> 00:12:05,766 IT IS NOW SPEAKER BUT SHE HAD A 434 00:12:05,766 --> 00:12:06,400 ROUGH ROAD GETTING THERE. 435 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,533 WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH 436 00:12:07,533 --> 00:12:08,500 HER? 437 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:09,233 >> DONNA: I'M A LONG TIME 438 00:12:09,233 --> 00:12:11,966 FRIEND OF NANCYS. 439 00:12:11,966 --> 00:12:12,900 I DID NOT ENDORSE HER IN THE 440 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:14,233 PRIMARY. 441 00:12:14,233 --> 00:12:15,066 I TOLD HER I WAS STAYING OUT OF 442 00:12:15,066 --> 00:12:16,266 ANY ISSUES BECAUSE IT WAS 443 00:12:16,266 --> 00:12:19,533 PRESUMPTUOUS OF ME TO ASSUME I 444 00:12:19,533 --> 00:12:21,000 WAS GOING TO GET ELECTED. 445 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,633 BUT RIGHT AFTERWARDS I DID 446 00:12:22,633 --> 00:12:23,500 ENDORSE HER. 447 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:24,866 I THINK SHE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY 448 00:12:24,866 --> 00:12:27,466 LEADER, A VERY SHREWD LEADER. 449 00:12:27,466 --> 00:12:28,233 I DON'T THINK SHE HAD A ROUGH 450 00:12:28,233 --> 00:12:28,900 GO. 451 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:29,933 THIS IS THE KIND OF POLITICS 452 00:12:29,933 --> 00:12:31,333 YOU WOULD EXPECT. 453 00:12:31,333 --> 00:12:33,466 SOME PEOPLE WANT SOME THINGS. 454 00:12:33,466 --> 00:12:33,533 SHE NEVER GAVE WAY ANYTHING 455 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:36,166 THAT SHE DIDN'T THINK WASEL 456 00:12:36,166 --> 00:12:37,633 ETHICAL AND WAS IMPORTANT TO 457 00:12:37,633 --> 00:12:40,500 THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC 458 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,833 PARTY. 459 00:12:42,833 --> 00:12:43,566 >> BONNIE: WOULD SHE HAVE HAD 460 00:12:43,566 --> 00:12:46,266 ANY EASIER TIME IF SHE WAS A 461 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:49,133 78-YEAR-OLD MAN INSTEAD OF A 462 00:12:49,133 --> 00:12:49,966 SURVEYED YEAR OLD WOMAN? 463 00:12:49,966 --> 00:12:52,300 >> DONNA: THE TWO MEN IN THEIR 464 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:53,700 70S WHO ARE ALSO IN LEADERSHIP 465 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:54,800 DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM AT ALL. 466 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,700 WAS THERE A DIMENSION THERE? 467 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,566 CERTAINLY. 468 00:12:58,566 --> 00:12:59,800 ALL OF US KNOW THAT. 469 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,166 BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT 470 00:13:02,166 --> 00:13:04,766 SHE IS SHREWD AND SMART AND 471 00:13:04,766 --> 00:13:06,866 SENSIBLE AND COMPASSIONATE AND 472 00:13:06,866 --> 00:13:08,366 SHE HAS DEEP ROOTS IN THE 473 00:13:08,366 --> 00:13:10,933 DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND SHE 474 00:13:10,933 --> 00:13:11,833 CARRIES FIRST ABOUT THE MOST 475 00:13:11,833 --> 00:13:15,266 VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR 476 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:15,866 SOCIETY. 477 00:13:15,866 --> 00:13:17,133 AND I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT HER AS 478 00:13:17,133 --> 00:13:20,433 ARE MY COLLEAGUES. 479 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:21,400 >> BONNIE: YOU'RE VERY CLOSE 480 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,300 TO THE CLINTONS. 481 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:24,833 ARE WE GOING TO SEE HILLARY RUN 482 00:13:24,833 --> 00:13:26,633 AGAIN? 483 00:13:26,633 --> 00:13:28,200 >> DONNA: I DON'T THINK SO. 484 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:28,766 >> BONNIE: WHY NOT? 485 00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,033 >> DONNA: I THINK HILLARY HAS 486 00:13:30,033 --> 00:13:30,100 OVERRED OTHER THINGS THAT SHE 487 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:31,900 WANTS TO DO. 488 00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:32,166 NO. 489 00:13:32,166 --> 00:13:33,433 WE'RE GOING TO SEE A WHOLE NEW 490 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:37,233 GROUP OF PEOPLE OF VARYING 491 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:38,333 AGES. 492 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:39,666 YOU HAVE MIKE BLOOMBERG AND JOE 493 00:13:39,666 --> 00:13:43,300 BIDE UNON ONE SIDE. 494 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:44,033 YOU HAVE MITCH ATLANTA DREW AND 495 00:13:44,033 --> 00:13:45,600 A NUMBER OF WOMEN THAT ARE 496 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,100 INTERESTED IN RUNNING IT WILL 497 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:49,800 BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE 498 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,500 WHETHER WE HAVE A HUGE PRIMARY 499 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:53,933 IN SOME OF THESE STATES. 500 00:13:53,933 --> 00:13:55,700 THE MORE THE MERRIER AS FAR AS 501 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,933 I'M CONCERNED. 502 00:13:57,933 --> 00:13:58,800 >> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK A 503 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,166 WOMAN CAN SINCH THE MOVE. 504 00:14:02,166 --> 00:14:03,766 WE HAVE KERSTIN TALKING ABOUT 505 00:14:03,766 --> 00:14:04,633 IT ISN'T THAT RIGHT FROM 506 00:14:04,633 --> 00:14:06,133 NEW YORK. 507 00:14:06,133 --> 00:14:06,700 ISN'T THAT RIGHT FROM 508 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:06,766 CALIFORNIA AND THE LIST GOES ON 509 00:14:06,766 --> 00:14:09,633 AND ON. 510 00:14:09,633 --> 00:14:12,100 >> DONNA: ELIZABETH WARREN. 511 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:14,000 OF COURSE A WOMAN CAN SECURE 512 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,833 THE NOMINATION. 513 00:14:14,833 --> 00:14:15,400 WE HAVE DONE IT ONCE. 514 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:15,466 CERTAINLY I THINK IT IS 515 00:14:15,466 --> 00:14:17,433 POSSIBLE. 516 00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:18,366 WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS WHAT IS 517 00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:21,066 OUR MESSAGE. 518 00:14:21,066 --> 00:14:22,100 RIGHT NOW -- 519 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:23,266 >> BONNIE: SHOULD IT BE HEALTH 520 00:14:23,266 --> 00:14:24,266 CARE? 521 00:14:24,266 --> 00:14:25,066 >> DONNA: OF COURSE IT HAS TO 522 00:14:25,066 --> 00:14:26,633 BE HEALTH CARE. 523 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:27,166 WE'LL NEVER FINISH. 524 00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:28,133 IT HAS TO BE THE ENVIRONMENT 525 00:14:28,133 --> 00:14:31,500 AND IMMIGRATION REFORM. 526 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,066 SENSIBLE IMMIGRATION REFORM. 527 00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:34,100 WE BELONG IN STRONG BORDERS BUT 528 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:35,333 WE HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN 529 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:36,833 THIS COUNTRY WHO HAVE BEEN HERE 530 00:14:36,833 --> 00:14:38,966 FOR MANY YEARS. 531 00:14:38,966 --> 00:14:40,633 WE HAVE FOR FIND A PATHWAY TO 532 00:14:40,633 --> 00:14:41,833 CITIZENSHIP FOR THEM. 533 00:14:41,833 --> 00:14:43,933 NOT JUST FOR THE DACA KIDS THAT 534 00:14:43,933 --> 00:14:46,033 I CARE ABOUT FOR A LOT BUT THE 535 00:14:46,033 --> 00:14:48,433 OTHERS HERE WE HAVE TO EXTEND 536 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:50,300 TEMPORARY PROTECTIVE STATUS TO 537 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:54,533 VENEZUELANS AND TO NICARAGUA AS 538 00:14:54,533 --> 00:14:55,233 WELL. 539 00:14:55,233 --> 00:14:56,233 WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN 540 00:14:56,233 --> 00:14:57,333 THIS COUNTRY BUT REMEMBERING 541 00:14:57,333 --> 00:14:59,066 THAT WE'RE A NATION OF 542 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:00,366 IMMIGRANTS IS THE MOST 543 00:15:00,366 --> 00:15:00,733 IMPORTANT. 544 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:02,833 WHICH IS WHAT THIS PRESIDENT 545 00:15:02,833 --> 00:15:05,400 AND THIS ADMINISTRATION FORGETS 546 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,700 >> BONNIE: AND YET PRESIDENT 547 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,166 TRUMP RAN AS AN OPPONENT OF 548 00:15:09,166 --> 00:15:09,533 IMMIGRATION. 549 00:15:09,533 --> 00:15:13,766 WANTS MANY FEWER PEOPLE COMING 550 00:15:13,766 --> 00:15:15,133 IN. 551 00:15:15,133 --> 00:15:15,766 HE WANTS NO ILLEGAL BORDER 552 00:15:15,766 --> 00:15:19,933 CROSSINGS. 553 00:15:19,933 --> 00:15:21,666 AND HE SEEMED TO APPEAL TO A 554 00:15:21,666 --> 00:15:24,466 SEGMENT OF VOTERS, YOU KNOW, A 555 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:27,833 LARGE SEGMENT OF VOTERS WHO 556 00:15:27,833 --> 00:15:29,433 APPRECIATED WHAT HE WAS DOING 557 00:15:29,433 --> 00:15:31,100 ON THAT FRONT. 558 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:32,166 >> DONNA: THERE CERTAINLY IS 559 00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:33,600 NO QUESTION THAT THERE ARE 560 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,733 VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT 561 00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:37,900 BELIEVE WHAT THE PRESIDENT 562 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:38,266 BELIEVES. 563 00:15:38,266 --> 00:15:40,133 BUT HERE IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT 564 00:15:40,133 --> 00:15:41,933 WANTS. 565 00:15:41,933 --> 00:15:42,933 HE WANTS PEOPLE WHO ARE 566 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:44,533 WEALTHY, WELL-FED AND WELL 567 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:48,200 EDUCATED. 568 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,266 LOOK, I DON'T -- I WANT SAFE 569 00:15:48,266 --> 00:15:50,966 BORDERS. 570 00:15:50,966 --> 00:15:51,933 I WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AN 571 00:15:51,933 --> 00:15:55,333 ORDERLY WAY BUT THIS IDEA THAT 572 00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:57,233 YOU HAVE TO BE WEALTHY TO COME 573 00:15:57,233 --> 00:15:59,700 TO THIS COUNTRY AND TO STAY IN 574 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:02,333 THIS COUNTRY IS OUTRAGEOUS. 575 00:16:02,333 --> 00:16:03,200 THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT BUILT BY 576 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE WITH GREAT 577 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:06,533 WEALTH. 578 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:07,966 IT WAS BY -- BUILT BY PEOPLE 579 00:16:07,966 --> 00:16:10,300 WHO HAD SPIRIT AND THE HUNGER 580 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:12,666 TO SUCCEED AND WANTED GOOD 581 00:16:12,666 --> 00:16:14,566 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR KIDS. 582 00:16:14,566 --> 00:16:16,266 >> BONNIE: HR 1 OF ALL THINGS 583 00:16:16,266 --> 00:16:18,100 IS ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION. 584 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:19,466 IS THERE A LOT OF THAT GOING 585 00:16:19,466 --> 00:16:20,133 ON? 586 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:21,200 >> DONNA: THE FACT IS WE HAVE 587 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,200 A MESS ON OUR HANDS. 588 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,266 WE ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY 589 00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:24,333 SOPHISTICATED AND WE HAVE NOT 590 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:26,166 APPLIED IT TO THE VOTING 591 00:16:26,166 --> 00:16:28,733 PROCESS IN THIS COUNTRY. 592 00:16:28,733 --> 00:16:30,166 WE ARE THE GREAT CHAMPIONS OF 593 00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:30,833 TECHNOLOGY AND WE HAVEN'T 594 00:16:30,833 --> 00:16:33,666 APPLIED IT TO THE MOST BASIC 595 00:16:33,666 --> 00:16:35,933 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, THE RIGHT TO 596 00:16:35,933 --> 00:16:37,333 VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY. 597 00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:38,366 >> BONNIE: BUT, YOU KNOW, ON A 598 00:16:38,366 --> 00:16:42,133 LOCAL LEVEL, THERE ARE COUNTIES 599 00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:44,833 THAT ARE USING 30-YEAR-OLD, YOU 600 00:16:44,833 --> 00:16:46,400 KNOW, COMPUTERS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 601 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,233 FROM THE 70S WHEN THEY WERE 602 00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:50,533 THIS BIG AND HAD ONLY TEXT ON 603 00:16:50,533 --> 00:16:52,266 THE SCREEN. 604 00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:53,866 HOW DO YOUFICATION, YOU KNOW, 605 00:16:53,866 --> 00:16:55,133 THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE 606 00:16:55,133 --> 00:16:57,633 INVESTMENT. 607 00:16:57,633 --> 00:16:58,433 >> DONNA: IT HAS TO BE A 608 00:16:58,433 --> 00:17:00,266 FEDERAL INVESTMENT TO THE 609 00:17:00,266 --> 00:17:00,600 STATES. 610 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,833 AT THE END OF THE DAY THE 611 00:17:01,833 --> 00:17:02,600 STATES HAVE TO FEEL THAT 612 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,866 RESPONSIBILITY. 613 00:17:03,866 --> 00:17:04,900 IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A UNITED 614 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,800 STATES OF AMERICA, WE'RE GOING 615 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,400 TO HAVE TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT 616 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,400 IN THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO 617 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,200 VOTE. 618 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,800 >> BONNIE: THIS PAST ELECTION, 619 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,833 SEEMED TO GO REASONABLY WELL. 620 00:17:19,833 --> 00:17:20,266 YES, THERE WERE OUTBREAKS IN 621 00:17:20,266 --> 00:17:22,666 AREAS OF THINGS LIKE THE 622 00:17:22,666 --> 00:17:25,366 NORTH CAROLINA VOTE. 623 00:17:25,366 --> 00:17:26,666 BUT WE DIDN'T SEEM, AT LEAST 624 00:17:26,666 --> 00:17:28,566 THAT WE KNOW NOW, IT DIDN'T 625 00:17:28,566 --> 00:17:31,066 SEEM TO HAVE BEEN INVADED BY 626 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:34,666 THE RUSSIANS AND RACES MADE UP 627 00:17:34,666 --> 00:17:38,266 BECAUSE OF VOTES, YOU KNOW, OF 628 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:40,666 FAKE NEWS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW 629 00:17:40,666 --> 00:17:41,933 , EASTERN EUROPE. 630 00:17:41,933 --> 00:17:44,000 THAT SORT OF THING. 631 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:44,666 >> DONNA: I THINK THE WHOLE 632 00:17:44,666 --> 00:17:45,433 WORLD WAS WATCHING INCLUDING 633 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:47,666 EVERY AMERICAN TO MAKE SURE 634 00:17:47,666 --> 00:17:48,466 THOSE THINGS DIDN'T TAKE PLACE 635 00:17:48,466 --> 00:17:49,900 AND WE HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY IN 636 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:52,433 WHICH WE'RE FOCUSED ON WHETHER 637 00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:54,433 THERE IS BEING CYBER ATTACKS BY 638 00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:56,266 OTHER COUNTRIES AND IT WAS A 639 00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:58,133 PRIMARY WHICH MEANT THAT IT WAS 640 00:17:58,133 --> 00:18:01,500 RELATIVELY LOW TURN OUT. 641 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:03,033 THE REAL TEST WILL BE IN 2020 642 00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:06,166 IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. 643 00:18:06,166 --> 00:18:07,200 AND WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT. 644 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,500 BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A 645 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,000 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. 646 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,333 THIS IS WHAT WE BASE OUR 647 00:18:13,333 --> 00:18:15,966 DEMOCRACY ON. 648 00:18:15,966 --> 00:18:16,800 >> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK 649 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,833 PRESIDENT TRUMP WON FAIR AND 650 00:18:17,833 --> 00:18:19,700 SQUARE OR WAS THERE 651 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:23,000 TECHNOLOGICAL EMEDALLING BY 652 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,966 RUSSIA BY PETER TIEL, 653 00:18:23,966 --> 00:18:26,933 REPUBLICAN, IN SILICON VALLEY 654 00:18:26,933 --> 00:18:28,266 WHO WAS VERY WEALTHY WHO USED 655 00:18:28,266 --> 00:18:30,466 -- HELPED USE A LOT OF 656 00:18:30,466 --> 00:18:33,200 TECHNOLOGY SUPPOSEDLY TO 657 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,433 MICROTARGET VOTERS? 658 00:18:35,433 --> 00:18:37,766 >> DONNA: LOOK, EVERY PARTY 659 00:18:37,766 --> 00:18:39,166 MICROTARGETS VOTERS. 660 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:40,366 I'M NOT GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT 661 00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:43,333 THAT. 662 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:45,566 THERE CLEARLY WAS RUSSIAN 663 00:18:45,566 --> 00:18:46,800 INTERFERENCE. 664 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,933 CLEARLY THERE WERE GAMES THAT 665 00:18:47,933 --> 00:18:48,433 WERE BEING PLAYED. 666 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:51,166 BUT WE ACCEPTED THE ELECTION 667 00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:53,433 AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS 668 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:53,800 PRESIDENT. 669 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,466 WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IN 670 00:18:55,466 --> 00:18:59,966 2020 IS THAT WE PREVENT ANY 671 00:18:59,966 --> 00:19:03,333 KIND OF -- ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE 672 00:19:03,333 --> 00:19:04,533 ACTIVITY THAT AFFECTS THE 673 00:19:04,533 --> 00:19:07,000 OUTCOME AND I THINK AMERICANS 674 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,900 ARE MORE AWARE BECAUSE THE 675 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:10,266 INVESTIGATIONS, PARTICULARLY 676 00:19:10,266 --> 00:19:13,133 TOWARDS WHAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE 677 00:19:13,133 --> 00:19:13,433 DONE. 678 00:19:13,433 --> 00:19:14,700 BUT IT IS NOT JUST THE RUSSIANS 679 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:16,066 BUT IT IS THE CHINESE. 680 00:19:16,066 --> 00:19:17,600 IT IS EVERYONE WHO HAS ACCESS 681 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,300 TO HIGH-POWERED COMPUTERS. 682 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:22,366 >> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK DONALD 683 00:19:22,366 --> 00:19:23,900 TRUMP IS BEATABLE BY A 684 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:26,333 DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT? 685 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:29,800 >> DONNA: OH, YES. 686 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,200 >> BONNIE: WHY? 687 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,600 >> DONNA: WE JUST BEAT HIM. 688 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,933 WE JUST BEAT HIM IN THE HOUSE 689 00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:35,000 OF REPRESENTATIVES. 690 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,333 AND MANY OF US USE HIM RAN 691 00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:39,400 AGAINST HIM AS WELL. 692 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,033 YES, HE'S BEATABLE. 693 00:19:42,033 --> 00:19:42,700 >> BONNIE: BUT NOT IN THE 694 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,266 SENATE THE REPUBLICANS STILL -- 695 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:44,966 >> DONNA: BUT THAT WAS THE 696 00:19:44,966 --> 00:19:46,200 NUMBER OF SEATS AND THE KINDS 697 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,100 OF SEATS NET SENATE. 698 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:49,166 IN THE -- WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER 699 00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:50,533 CHANCE OF GETTING THE SENATE 700 00:19:50,533 --> 00:19:51,833 BACK IN 2020. 701 00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:53,166 WE NEED A VERY GOOD CANDIDATE 702 00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:55,733 WITH A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE THAT 703 00:19:55,733 --> 00:19:56,566 WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY 704 00:19:56,566 --> 00:19:57,366 BACK. 705 00:19:57,366 --> 00:19:58,766 WE NEED TO BRING THE COMPASSION 706 00:19:58,766 --> 00:19:59,466 BACK. 707 00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:01,666 WE NEED TO REMIND EVERYBODIED 708 00:20:01,666 --> 00:20:03,200 EVERYONE AGAIN THAT WE'RE A 709 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,166 NATION OF IMMIGRANTS AND THAT 710 00:20:04,166 --> 00:20:05,933 WE'RE DECENT PEOPLE AND THAT WE 711 00:20:05,933 --> 00:20:08,466 TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. 712 00:20:08,466 --> 00:20:11,766 RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN ATTACK ON 713 00:20:11,766 --> 00:20:12,900 POOR PEOPLE T ARGUING THAT YOU 714 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:13,900 CAN'T GET A GREEN CARD IF YOU 715 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,466 TAKE ANY KIND OF BENEFIT AT 716 00:20:17,466 --> 00:20:18,233 ALL. 717 00:20:18,233 --> 00:20:20,566 WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CHILDREN 718 00:20:20,566 --> 00:20:21,733 HUNGRIER AND SICKER BY SOME OF 719 00:20:21,733 --> 00:20:23,633 THE RULES THAT THIS 720 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:24,133 ADMINISTRATION IS PUTTING IN 721 00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:25,366 PLACE. 722 00:20:25,366 --> 00:20:26,533 WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MAKE 723 00:20:26,533 --> 00:20:30,833 OUR AIR AND WATER LESS CLEAN 724 00:20:30,833 --> 00:20:31,933 BECAUSE OF RULES THAT ARE 725 00:20:31,933 --> 00:20:33,666 REGULATIONS THAT ARE BEING 726 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:34,733 ROLLED BACK. 727 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:37,066 THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS TIME 728 00:20:37,066 --> 00:20:38,400 IN AMERICAN HISTORY. 729 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,433 AND THE FACT THAT SO MANY 730 00:20:40,433 --> 00:20:42,166 PEOPLE GOT ELECTED BECAUSE THEY 731 00:20:42,166 --> 00:20:44,266 SAW THAT THERE WAS A DANGER OUT 732 00:20:44,266 --> 00:20:45,966 THERE IS IMPORTANT. 733 00:20:45,966 --> 00:20:48,166 AND I THINK IT WILL BE REFLECT 734 00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:49,866 IN THE ELECTION OF 2020. 735 00:20:49,866 --> 00:20:51,333 >> BONNIE: WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS 736 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,333 FOR LEGISLATION ON CLIMATE 737 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:53,666 CHANGE? 738 00:20:53,666 --> 00:20:54,733 ARE YOU GOING TO AUTHOR ANY 739 00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:56,800 BILLS IN THAT AREA? 740 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,800 >> DONNA: I'M GOING TO 741 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,166 CO-SPONSOR SOME BILLS THAT HAVE 742 00:20:59,166 --> 00:21:00,866 ALREADY BEEN INTRODUCED. 743 00:21:00,866 --> 00:21:00,933 SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE 744 00:21:00,933 --> 00:21:02,966 INTRODUCED BILLS. 745 00:21:02,966 --> 00:21:04,900 HERE WHAT IS WE NEED IN SOUTH 746 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:05,233 FLORIDA. 747 00:21:05,233 --> 00:21:06,666 WE NEED A BIG INFRASTRUCTURE 748 00:21:06,666 --> 00:21:08,200 BILL. 749 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,866 WE HAVE TO BUILD SEA WALLS AND 750 00:21:11,866 --> 00:21:13,866 WE HAVE TO BUY STREETS AND 751 00:21:13,866 --> 00:21:15,433 PROVIDE BUMPS. 752 00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:20,066 >> BONNIE: CAN YOU BUILD ABOVE 753 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,433 THE SEAWATER AND CLIMATE 754 00:21:21,433 --> 00:21:21,766 CHANGE? 755 00:21:21,766 --> 00:21:21,833 >> DONNA: THERE IS NO QUESTION 756 00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,333 ABOUT IT. 757 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:24,766 BUT SIMULTANEOUSLY WE HAVE TO 758 00:21:24,766 --> 00:21:26,433 DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT IS 759 00:21:26,433 --> 00:21:29,533 GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE 760 00:21:29,533 --> 00:21:30,966 ENVIRONMENT. 761 00:21:30,966 --> 00:21:33,100 SO THE FACT THAT WE PULLED OUT 762 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:36,033 OF PARIS I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE 763 00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:40,366 AND YOU'LL SEE THIS GROUP, THIS 764 00:21:40,366 --> 00:21:41,633 MAJORITY GROUP STARTING TO TAKE 765 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:44,100 SOME STRONG STEPS WHETHER OR 766 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:46,266 NOT THE REPUBLICAN HEALTH 767 00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:47,633 SENATE WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT 768 00:21:47,633 --> 00:21:49,500 IT WE'LL EXPLAIN TO THE 769 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:49,566 AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THIS IS IN 770 00:21:49,566 --> 00:21:51,633 FACT LIFE AND DEATH FOR OUR 771 00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:53,033 PLANET. 772 00:21:53,033 --> 00:21:56,100 AND AMERICANS HAVE TO DO THEIR 773 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,366 FAIR SHARE. 774 00:21:57,366 --> 00:21:57,933 >> BONNIE: YOU THINK 775 00:21:57,933 --> 00:21:58,733 FLORIDIANS ARE MORE SENSITIVE 776 00:21:58,733 --> 00:21:59,933 TO IT BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE 777 00:21:59,933 --> 00:22:02,300 OF THE STATE? 778 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:03,933 >> DONNA: I DO. 779 00:22:03,933 --> 00:22:05,533 WE HAVE NO CLIMATE DENIERS IN 780 00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:06,733 SOUTH FLORIDA. 781 00:22:06,733 --> 00:22:08,166 >> BONNIE: YOU HAVE A LOT TO 782 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:08,533 ROLL BACK. 783 00:22:08,533 --> 00:22:10,733 HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE IF 784 00:22:10,733 --> 00:22:13,333 DEMOCRATS CAN SUCCEED WITH 785 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,066 LEGISLATION BETWEEN NOW AND 786 00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:21,166 THINGS THAT ENVIRONMENTALISTS 787 00:22:21,166 --> 00:22:24,533 SAY, DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE TO 788 00:22:24,533 --> 00:22:25,500 HURT THE ENVIRONMENT? 789 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:26,466 >> DONNA: WE COULD STOP SOME 790 00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:27,100 THINGS. 791 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,700 WE COULD STOP SOME REGULATIONS. 792 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:30,466 WE COULD STOP SOME REGULATIONS 793 00:22:30,466 --> 00:22:33,266 THAT WEAKEN OUR LAWS ON CLEAN 794 00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:34,700 AIR AND CLEAN WATER. 795 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:36,366 WE CERTAINLY CAN STOP THE 796 00:22:36,366 --> 00:22:37,666 REGULATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO 797 00:22:37,666 --> 00:22:40,833 TAKE FOOD OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF 798 00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:44,866 CHILDREN AND THE SNAP PROGRAM, 799 00:22:44,866 --> 00:22:47,433 THE SUPPLEMENTARY NUTRITION 800 00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:48,433 PROGRAM FOR POOR KIDS. 801 00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,233 WE'VE GOT TO STOP SOME OF THIS 802 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:54,533 CRAZINESS THAT -- REAL EVIL 803 00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:57,400 POLICIES THAT ARE GOING ON. 804 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,533 SO WE CAN STOP SOME THINGS. 805 00:22:58,533 --> 00:22:59,866 LOOK, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF 806 00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:00,400 THE NEW REPUBLICANS THAT ARE 807 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,266 COMING IN. 808 00:23:02,266 --> 00:23:04,500 THEY WANT TO GET SOME THINGS 809 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:05,100 DONE, TOO. 810 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:05,766 >> BONNIE: HOW LONG DO YOU 811 00:23:05,766 --> 00:23:07,600 THINK IT WILL TAKE TO REPEAL -- 812 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,500 TO UNDUE THE DAMAGE THAT 813 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:11,566 PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE ON THE 814 00:23:11,566 --> 00:23:15,733 ENVIRONMENT, ON HEALTH CARE, ET 815 00:23:15,733 --> 00:23:16,066 CETERA? 816 00:23:16,066 --> 00:23:16,833 >> DONNA: WE HAVE A COUPLE OF 817 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:18,766 YEARS TO TRY TO GET SOME THINGS 818 00:23:18,766 --> 00:23:20,200 DONE. 819 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,600 LET ME TELL YOU, WHEN I BECAME 820 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,266 SECRETARY OF HHS, IT TOOK US A 821 00:23:24,266 --> 00:23:26,366 MONTH TO REVERSE A LOT OF THE 822 00:23:26,366 --> 00:23:31,266 THINGS INCLUDING WOMEN'S RIGHTS 823 00:23:31,266 --> 00:23:33,233 AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. 824 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:34,600 WE SIMPLY HANDED THE PRESIDENT 825 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,466 A BUNCH OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND 826 00:23:35,466 --> 00:23:39,366 WE PASSED LEGISLATION, DOUBLED 827 00:23:39,366 --> 00:23:41,866 THE EARNED INCOME -- THE EARNED 828 00:23:41,866 --> 00:23:45,200 INCOME TAX CREDIT. 829 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,266 SO WITH THE RIGHT CAPITAL 830 00:23:46,266 --> 00:23:47,566 OFFICERS AND RIGHT PRESIDENT, 831 00:23:47,566 --> 00:23:48,666 WE CAN RIGHT SOME OF THESE 832 00:23:48,666 --> 00:23:49,800 THINGS. 833 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,533 SOME OF IT IS DAMAGE THAT WILL 834 00:23:50,533 --> 00:23:52,633 LIVE WITH US FOR A VERY LONG 835 00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:53,433 TIME. 836 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:54,466 PARTICULARLY OUR REPUTATION 837 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:55,033 AROUND THE WORLD. 838 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:56,933 PARTICULARLY WHAT WE'RE DOING 839 00:23:56,933 --> 00:23:57,866 WITH IMMIGRANTS. 840 00:23:57,866 --> 00:23:59,133 HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH 841 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:00,600 IMMIGRANTS AND WITH 842 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,266 UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE. 843 00:24:01,266 --> 00:24:03,000 THERE ARE A LOT OF UNDOCUMENTED 844 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,566 PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 845 00:24:04,566 --> 00:24:04,933 20 YEARS. 846 00:24:04,933 --> 00:24:06,300 THEIR CHILDREN ARE AMERICANS. 847 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:07,533 THEY'RE NOW SCARED TO DEATH TO 848 00:24:07,533 --> 00:24:10,500 REGISTER THEIR CHILDREN FOR 849 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:14,200 MEDICAID, FOR THE CHILDREN'S 850 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,466 HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, FOR 851 00:24:15,466 --> 00:24:17,166 SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION 852 00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:19,066 ASSISTANTS, FOR FOOD STAMPS, 853 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:20,833 FOR FREE SCHOOL LUNCHES. 854 00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:22,166 THEY'RE WORKING EVERY DAY AND 855 00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:23,600 TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR 856 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,866 FAMILIES. 857 00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:25,900 THEIR KIDS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR 858 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:27,166 THESE PROGRAMS. 859 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:31,133 WHO IN THIS COUNTRY WANTS A 860 00:24:31,133 --> 00:24:32,533 MILLION KIDS WITHOUT HEALTH 861 00:24:32,533 --> 00:24:33,200 CARE COVERAGE BECAUSE THEIR 862 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,166 PARENTS ARE AFRAID TO REGISTER 863 00:24:34,166 --> 00:24:36,033 THEM BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'LL 864 00:24:36,033 --> 00:24:38,166 BE SENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY. 865 00:24:38,166 --> 00:24:39,066 THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS. 866 00:24:39,066 --> 00:24:40,933 WE'RE NOT THAT KIND OF COUNTRY. 867 00:24:40,933 --> 00:24:41,666 >> BONNIE: IT WILL BE VERY 868 00:24:41,666 --> 00:24:43,666 INTERESTING DO WATCH YOU IN THE 869 00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:45,366 HOUSE AND TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN 870 00:24:45,366 --> 00:24:50,266 DO, YOU KNOW, AS A LEGISLATIVE 871 00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:51,866 AND HEAVYWEIGHT AND A FORMER 872 00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:53,200 CABINET SECRETARY. 873 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,266 WE'LL BE WATCHING YOU CLOSELY 874 00:24:53,266 --> 00:24:55,466 AND TALKING TO YOU A LOT, I 875 00:24:55,466 --> 00:24:57,166 HOPE. 876 00:24:57,166 --> 00:24:57,666 THANK YOU SO MUCH, 877 00:24:57,666 --> 00:24:59,066 REPRESENTATIVE SHALAL. 878 00:24:59,066 --> 00:24:59,766 >> DONNA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, 879 00:24:59,766 --> 00:25:01,033 BONNIE. 880 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:01,633 GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 881 00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:02,400 >> BONNIE: THAT IS IT FOR THIS 882 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,900 EDITION FOR TO THE CONTRARY. 883 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:05,733 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AND 884 00:25:05,733 --> 00:25:09,733 FOLLOW OUR WEBSITE, PBS/TO THE 885 00:25:09,733 --> 00:25:11,733 CONTRARY AND WHETHER YOU AGREE 886 00:25:11,733 --> 00:25:16,400 OR DISAGREE TO THE CONTRARY, 887 00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:19,933 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 888 00:25:19,933 --> 00:25:27,733 ONLINE EPISODE OF "TO THE 889 00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:28,566 CONTRARY," PLEASE VISIT OUR PBS 890 00:25:28,566 --> 00:25:31,133 WEBSITE AT: 891 00:25:31,133 --> 00:25:35,733 PBS.ORG/TOTHECONTRARY. 892 00:25:35,733 --> 00:25:39,900 >> BE MORE, PBS.