1 00:00:00,066 --> 00:00:00,933 PROVIDED BY ... 2 00:00:00,933 --> 00:00:02,666 >> THIS WEEK ON ITO THE CONTRARY 3 00:00:02,666 --> 00:00:04,266 ... 4 00:00:04,266 --> 00:00:06,700 >> UP FIRST ... THE WEEK IN 5 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:08,300 PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS. 6 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:09,600 BEHIND THE HEADLINES. 7 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,833 CAN WE STOP CHILDREN BORN INTO 8 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:13,366 POVERTY FROM BECOMING 9 00:00:13,366 --> 00:00:35,633 IMPOVERISHED ADULTS? 10 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:38,200 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:38,900 WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A 12 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:39,600 DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,300 TRENDS FROM DIVERSE 14 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:41,733 PERSPECTIVES. 15 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:43,400 UP FIRST, THE PRESIDENTIAL 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,233 ELECTION. 17 00:00:45,233 --> 00:00:46,700 IS HILLARY CLINTON BECOMING 18 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:48,666 COMPLACENT IN THE PRESIDENTIAL 19 00:00:48,666 --> 00:00:49,133 RACE? 20 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:51,000 HEAD-TO-HEAD POLLS SHOW CLINTON 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,066 WINNING COMFORTABLY OVER DONALD 22 00:00:53,066 --> 00:00:56,500 TRUMP AND TAKING THE HOUSE SEATS 23 00:00:56,500 --> 00:01:00,733 EVEN AWAY FROM REPUBLICANS. 24 00:01:00,733 --> 00:01:01,500 BUT SOME DEMOCRATS ARE CONCERNED 25 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:02,200 THIS EARLY LEAD MEANS THERE'S 26 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,666 NOWHERE TO GO BUT DOWN IN THE 3 27 00:01:06,666 --> 00:01:07,300 MONTHS 'TIL ELECTION DAY. 28 00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:07,966 SHE DID, HOWEVER, UNVEIL AN 29 00:01:07,966 --> 00:01:13,500 ECONOMIC PLAN THAT INCLUDES MORE 30 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:14,266 JOB CREATION THAN ANY GOVERNMENT 31 00:01:14,266 --> 00:01:14,966 PROGRAM IN 70 YEARS. AND SHE 32 00:01:14,966 --> 00:01:16,066 PROMISED UNIVERSAL 33 00:01:16,066 --> 00:01:18,300 PRE-KINDERGARTEN, TAX CREDITS 34 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,133 AND SUBSIDIZED CHILD CARE AND 35 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:23,566 DEBT-FREE COLLEGE FOR EVERYONE. 36 00:01:23,566 --> 00:01:25,300 MEANWHILE DONALD TRUMP WORKED 37 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:26,466 HARD THIS WEEK TO WIN BACK 38 00:01:26,466 --> 00:01:28,166 REPUBLICAN WOMEN. 39 00:01:28,166 --> 00:01:29,366 POLLS SHOW THE REPUBLICAN 40 00:01:29,366 --> 00:01:31,433 NOMINEE HAS DROPPED BY 13 41 00:01:31,433 --> 00:01:33,700 PERCENT AMONG GOP WOMEN SINCE 42 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:35,200 THE PARTY CONVENTIONS. 43 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,566 MAINE SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS SAID 44 00:01:37,566 --> 00:01:39,233 FOR THE FIRST TIME SHE WON'T 45 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,366 VOTE FOR TRUMP. 46 00:01:40,366 --> 00:01:42,100 AND MAJOR GOP DONOR MEG WHITMAN 47 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,033 DECLARED HER SUPPORT FOR HILLARY 48 00:01:44,033 --> 00:01:45,766 CLINTON. 49 00:01:45,766 --> 00:01:48,066 TO COURT WOMEN, TRUMP ALSO 50 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:50,700 CALLED FOR A CHILD-CARE 51 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:51,333 DEDUCTION AS PART OF HIS 52 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,433 ECONOMIC PLAN---CRITICIZED BY 53 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:55,466 THE LEFT AS HELPING ONLY THE 54 00:01:55,466 --> 00:01:56,733 UPPER CLASS. 55 00:01:56,733 --> 00:02:00,666 IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, MR. TRUMP 56 00:02:00,666 --> 00:02:01,400 SAID PRESIDENT OBAMA AND CLINTON 57 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,066 FOUNDED AND CO-FOUNDED ISIS. HE 58 00:02:04,066 --> 00:02:06,933 ALSO SAID, ".••MAYBE THERE IS" A 59 00:02:06,933 --> 00:02:08,633 WAY FOR "SECOND AMENDMENT 60 00:02:08,633 --> 00:02:10,800 PEOPLE" TO STOP HILLARY CLINTON 61 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,800 FROM NOMINATING PROGRESSIVE 62 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,233 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. 63 00:02:14,233 --> 00:02:21,066 WAS THAT A CALL FOR AN 64 00:02:21,066 --> 00:02:21,766 ASSASSINATION OR A VERY POOR 65 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:22,533 ATTEMPT AT A JOKE? THE TWO SIDES 66 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:22,866 DIFFER. 67 00:02:22,866 --> 00:02:23,566 SECRETARY CLINTON HAS HER OWN 68 00:02:23,566 --> 00:02:24,266 NEW PROBLEMS INCLUDING EMAILS 69 00:02:24,266 --> 00:02:25,800 THAT SUGGEST HER STATE 70 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,833 DEPARTMENT AIDES ENGAGED IN WHAT 71 00:02:27,833 --> 00:02:29,733 CRITICS ARE CALLING "PAY FOR 72 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:31,800 PLAY" OPPORTUNITIES.••.THAT, FOR 73 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,833 BIG DONORS TO THE CLINTON GLOBAL 74 00:02:33,833 --> 00:02:35,766 INITIATIVE, WHICH THE FBI WANTED 75 00:02:35,766 --> 00:02:36,500 TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER, BUT THE 76 00:02:36,500 --> 00:03:10,366 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SAID NO. 77 00:03:10,366 --> 00:03:12,100 >> I THINK THEY'LL TRY DO 78 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:14,000 WHATEVER THEY CAN TO KEEP THE 79 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,733 FOCUS ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE 80 00:03:15,733 --> 00:03:17,166 THE MORE THE MEDIA ARE TALKING 81 00:03:17,166 --> 00:03:18,633 DONALD TRUMP THE LESS THEY ARE 82 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:20,866 TALKING ABOUT THE CONTROVERSYS 83 00:03:20,866 --> 00:03:24,800 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF THE 84 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:40,400 AISLE. 85 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,066 WE WERE IN THREE CITIES IN 86 00:03:41,066 --> 00:03:41,900 FLORIDA AND WENT TO DETROIT AND ^ 87 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:42,633 OTHER STATES, COMPLACENT IS NOT 88 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:43,000 THE WORD. 89 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,766 >> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" LOG ON 90 00:03:43,766 --> 00:03:44,400 POLITICS GIVES HER AN 80. 91 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,100 T IN 85 DAYS OR HOWEVER MANY 92 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:47,066 DAYS ARE LEFT UNTIL THE ELECTION 93 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:51,000 BUT AN 87-13% CHANCE FOR TRUMP 94 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,966 OF WINNING. 95 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:53,900 HOW CAN YOU NOT BECOME 96 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,833 A LITTLE COMPLACENT, AND WHAT 97 00:03:55,833 --> 00:03:58,266 ARE THE DANGERS OF THAT? 98 00:03:58,266 --> 00:04:01,333 >> IF I THOUGHT SHE WERE 99 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:03,400 COMPLACENT THAT WOULD BE 100 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,433 TERRIBLE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC 101 00:04:04,433 --> 00:04:05,500 PARTY, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS 102 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:05,900 A WOMAN WHO 103 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:09,400 HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONGTIME 104 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,033 AND NOTHING IS DONE UNTIL 105 00:04:10,033 --> 00:04:13,166 NOVEMBER 9TH AND SHE WILL 106 00:04:13,166 --> 00:04:15,200 CONTINUE TO FIGHT, I AM SURE AND 107 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,400 I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT 108 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,800 SHE GAVE THIS ECONOMIC SPEECH 109 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,433 WHICH I SHOULD SAY, I DISAGREE 110 00:04:19,433 --> 00:04:23,366 WE GAVE MENTALLY ON ALL OF HER 111 00:04:23,366 --> 00:04:24,133 PLATFORMS, VEHEMENTLY, ON ALL OF 112 00:04:24,133 --> 00:04:24,600 HER PLATFORMS. 113 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,333 IT LETS HER COME ACROSS AS A 114 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:29,533 LEADER. 115 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:30,333 >> AND YOU KNOW SHE GOT A BIG 116 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:31,066 BOUNCE BIGGER THAN TRUMP OUT OF 117 00:04:31,066 --> 00:04:31,533 THE CONVENTION. 118 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:34,400 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAST 119 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,133 DEMOCRATS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN 120 00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:36,166 BIGGER BOUNCES, CARTER, DUKAKIS, 121 00:04:36,166 --> 00:04:38,700 THESE PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO KEEP 122 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:39,400 THOSE BOUNCES AND SHE IS NOT 123 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:46,533 GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM. 124 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:48,666 AT SOME POINT, TRUMP IS GOING TO 125 00:04:48,666 --> 00:04:50,333 SHUT HIS MOUTH. 126 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:51,400 [ LAUGHTER ] 127 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,800 >> DO YOU THINK SO? 128 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,400 [ LAUGHTER ] 129 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,200 >> YOU'RE MAKING HISTORY HERE. 130 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,400 >> AT LEAST LONG ENOUGH TO LET 131 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,133 SOME OF HER WEAKNESSES WHICH ARE 132 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:00,400 PILING UP COME OUT AND BE 133 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,933 DISCUSSED. 134 00:05:02,933 --> 00:05:05,033 >> TWO POINTS ABOUT THE E-MAILS. 135 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:06,066 WHAT IS REALLY INTERESTING IS 136 00:05:06,066 --> 00:05:07,400 THAT, POLLING SHOWS THAT 137 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,533 TWO-THIRDS OF 138 00:05:09,533 --> 00:05:10,300 AMERICANS THINK SHE IS STILL NOT 139 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:11,266 TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HER 140 00:05:11,266 --> 00:05:13,700 E-MAILS AND ROUGHLY THE SAME 141 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:14,466 AMOUNT OF AMERICANS SAY THEY ARE 142 00:05:14,466 --> 00:05:15,133 TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE 143 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:16,466 E-MAILS. 144 00:05:16,466 --> 00:05:18,633 AND SO THAT TO ME SAYS THAT THE 145 00:05:18,633 --> 00:05:20,266 E-MAILS MAY NOT BE THE BEST 146 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:21,666 ISSUE TO BEAT HER ON. 147 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:22,400 AND THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING 148 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,833 TO SAY -- 149 00:05:23,833 --> 00:05:25,000 >> BUT WILL THEY KEEP BEATING 150 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,033 HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH AND 151 00:05:26,033 --> 00:05:27,833 JUST STARTED A NEW SERIES OF ADS 152 00:05:27,833 --> 00:05:29,866 ABOUT, IS RELEASING HIS TAX 153 00:05:29,866 --> 00:05:34,600 RETURNS AND SHE RELEASED HER TAX 154 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,200 RETURNS FRIDAY FOR 2015. 155 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,033 SO IS THAT -- 156 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:39,466 SHE IS BEATING HIM OVER THAT? 157 00:05:39,466 --> 00:05:40,633 >> I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY 158 00:05:40,633 --> 00:05:42,033 AMERICANS ARE GOING TO THE 159 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:43,200 BALLOT BOX SAYING HE DID NOT 160 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,266 RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS SO I 161 00:05:45,266 --> 00:05:51,033 CAN'T TRUST HIM. 162 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:52,100 BUT ABOUT THE POLLING COMING OUT 163 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:53,533 OF THE CONVENTION SHE WENT ON A 164 00:05:53,533 --> 00:05:54,566 BUS TOUR OF OHIO AND 165 00:05:54,566 --> 00:05:55,233 PENNSYLVANIA AND EVERY WEEK 166 00:05:55,233 --> 00:05:56,666 RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GOING BACK TO 167 00:05:56,666 --> 00:05:57,300 OHIO AND SWING STATES AND 168 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,100 PUTTING UP ADS IN THE SWING 169 00:05:57,966 --> 00:05:59,300 STATES. 170 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:00,400 ND 171 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,233 PENNSYLVANIA AND EVERY WEEK 172 00:06:02,233 --> 00:06:04,200 RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GOING BACK TO 173 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,800 OHIO AND SWING STATES AND 174 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,066 PUTTING UP ADS IN THE SWING 175 00:06:07,066 --> 00:06:07,433 STATES. 176 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:09,700 HE HAS NOT PUT UP ADS AT ALL. 177 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:11,033 IT'S CLEAR THAT THE CLINTON 178 00:06:11,033 --> 00:06:12,433 CAMPAIGN KNOWS THIS BOUNCE COULD 179 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:13,966 NOT LAST AND THEY ARE PUTTING IN 180 00:06:13,966 --> 00:06:15,200 THE WORK RIGHT NOW THAT THEY 181 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,533 WILL NEED FOR ELECTION DAY. 182 00:06:16,533 --> 00:06:18,700 >> AND ALSO IT IS TOO EARLY TO 183 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,066 TRUST THE POLLS. 184 00:06:20,066 --> 00:06:22,433 QUITE FRANKLY, MOST AMERICANS 185 00:06:22,433 --> 00:06:23,900 ARE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT 186 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:24,766 IT'S AUGUST. 187 00:06:24,766 --> 00:06:26,033 THEY WANT TO ENJOY THEIR SUMMER. 188 00:06:26,033 --> 00:06:27,200 AND THEY WANT TO KEEP WATCHING 189 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,833 THE OLYMPICS THEY ARE NOT READY 190 00:06:28,833 --> 00:06:31,233 TO FOCUS ON OR MAKE ANY 191 00:06:31,233 --> 00:06:32,733 DECISIONS ABOUT A PRESIDENTIAL 192 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:33,900 ELECTION THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN 193 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:36,166 UNTIL NOVEMBER. 194 00:06:36,166 --> 00:06:38,033 >> THAT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM BUT 195 00:06:38,033 --> 00:06:40,133 WHEN TRUMP STARTING CALLING FOR 196 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:42,500 THE NRA SECOND AMENDMENT FOLKS 197 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:46,766 TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR -- 198 00:06:46,766 --> 00:06:48,733 >> SOME ARE NOT PAYING 199 00:06:48,733 --> 00:06:49,333 ATTENTION. 200 00:06:49,333 --> 00:06:52,066 >> I THINK THEY ARE. 201 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:58,566 >> THEY ARE SAYING INCREDIBLE 202 00:06:58,566 --> 00:06:59,833 [INAUDIBLE] 203 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:04,633 HISTORICALLY INCREDIBLE THINGS. 204 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:05,233 >> NORMALLY -- 205 00:07:05,233 --> 00:07:06,500 >> I TELL YOU WHAT THE DATA ARE 206 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:08,633 FROM PEW BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. 207 00:07:08,633 --> 00:07:10,000 WE HAVE HIGH INTEREST IN THIS 208 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,633 ELECTION AND LARGE 209 00:07:11,633 --> 00:07:12,166 DISSATISFACTION. 210 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:14,666 WHEN YOU PUSH PEOPLE IN FACT ON 211 00:07:14,666 --> 00:07:16,700 WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO TURNOUT, 212 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:19,266 MANY PEOPLE STILL SAY THEY DO 213 00:07:19,266 --> 00:07:22,233 NOT KNOW YET THEY ARE DISGUSTED 214 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:23,800 WITH BOTH. 215 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:24,966 AND MANY PEOPLE STILL -- 216 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:26,533 >> WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT 217 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:26,833 THAT. 218 00:07:26,833 --> 00:07:27,900 THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION. 219 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:30,833 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INSEND 220 00:07:30,833 --> 00:07:33,600 AREA COMMENTS IF YOU LOOK AT THE 221 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:40,100 COMMENTS, YES, THE MUSLIM 222 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:40,766 PARENTS OF THE, THE 223 00:07:40,766 --> 00:07:41,600 ASSASSINATION TYPE REMARKS, 224 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,066 THESE COMMENTS NOT ONLY ARE 225 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:47,366 COLORED BUT HAVE TO BE COVERED, 226 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:48,200 THEY ARE COVERED BY FOX, THEY 227 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,033 ARE COVERED BY CNN WHICH IS MORE 228 00:07:50,033 --> 00:07:51,166 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 229 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:53,600 THEY ARE COVERED BY MSNBC AND 230 00:07:53,600 --> 00:08:00,333 COVERED ON THE NATIONAL NEWS. 231 00:08:00,333 --> 00:08:02,000 THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM 232 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,533 MAKING UP YOUR MIND. 233 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:05,633 BUT THESE ALL ARE WAY OVER THE 234 00:08:05,633 --> 00:08:09,733 TOP NEVER BEFORE HEARD KINDS OF 235 00:08:09,733 --> 00:08:10,733 REMARKS. 236 00:08:10,733 --> 00:08:12,533 >> PEOPLE ARE STILL TUNING OUT 237 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:15,233 AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANT THING. 238 00:08:15,233 --> 00:08:17,633 YOU ARE BOTH RIGHT. 239 00:08:17,633 --> 00:08:20,233 BUT I THINK THAT ONE THING IS 240 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:20,433 PEOPLE ARE TUNING IT OUT AND THE 241 00:08:20,433 --> 00:08:22,866 OTHER THING IS PEOPLE NEED NEW 242 00:08:22,866 --> 00:08:24,233 INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MOVE 243 00:08:24,233 --> 00:08:25,133 THEIR OPINION. 244 00:08:25,133 --> 00:08:26,833 AND ONE CHALLENGE FOR HILLARY 245 00:08:26,833 --> 00:08:27,900 CLINTON OR FOR THE REPUBLICANS, 246 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:29,366 I SHOULD SAY THAT EVERYBODY 247 00:08:29,366 --> 00:08:30,900 HEARD ABOUT THE E-MAIL SCANDAL 248 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:31,733 AND THEY ARE SICK OF IT. 249 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:34,066 AND WHILE I THINK IT IS A VERY, 250 00:08:34,066 --> 00:08:35,633 VERY REAL THING THAT WE SHOULD 251 00:08:35,633 --> 00:08:36,866 BE TALKING ABOUT IT'S GETTING 252 00:08:36,866 --> 00:08:39,233 HARDER TO MOVE OPINION ON IT. 253 00:08:39,233 --> 00:08:40,566 EVERY TIME DONALD TRUMP SAYS 254 00:08:40,566 --> 00:08:41,833 SOMETHING NEW IT'S NEW 255 00:08:41,833 --> 00:08:43,066 INFORMATION THAT IS MOVING 256 00:08:43,066 --> 00:08:43,900 VOTERS WHO MIGHT BE IN THE 257 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:46,200 MIDDLE TO THINK GOODNESS. 258 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,466 REPUBLICANS HAVE TO FIND 259 00:08:49,466 --> 00:08:52,266 SOMETHING ELSE. 260 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:57,033 [INAUDIBLE] 261 00:08:57,033 --> 00:08:59,866 >> SOMETHING WHICH THE DAYCARE 262 00:08:59,866 --> 00:09:01,566 WARS, THEY BOTH SAVE GAVE THEIR 263 00:09:01,566 --> 00:09:05,133 ECONOMIC SPEECHES AND SHE WANTS 264 00:09:05,133 --> 00:09:10,566 FEDERAL SUBSIDIES AND WANTS TAX 265 00:09:10,566 --> 00:09:11,966 ENHANCEMENTS FOR DAYCARE AND 266 00:09:11,966 --> 00:09:13,633 FAMILY LEAVE. 267 00:09:13,633 --> 00:09:18,633 HE WANTS JUST TAX CREDITS WHICH 268 00:09:18,633 --> 00:09:18,966 THE -- 269 00:09:18,966 --> 00:09:20,233 WHICH THE CONSENSUS FROM THE 270 00:09:20,233 --> 00:09:23,433 MEDIA WOULD ONLY HELP RICH OR 271 00:09:23,433 --> 00:09:26,466 LOWER MIDDLE AND UPPER CLASS 272 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:27,033 PEOPLE. 273 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:28,933 BOTH OF THEM WERE ACCUSED OF 274 00:09:28,933 --> 00:09:31,266 FORGETTING ABOUT THE POOR ON 275 00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:32,566 DAYCARE IS THAT CORRECT? 276 00:09:32,566 --> 00:09:35,600 >> THAT IS RIGHT. 277 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,000 >> I THINK THAT I AM NOT USUALLY 278 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,733 A PROPONENT OF DONALD TRUMP BUT 279 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,966 HE IS CLOSER TO THE MARK ON THIS 280 00:09:39,966 --> 00:09:41,333 ONE THAN SHE IS. 281 00:09:41,333 --> 00:09:43,733 WHAT WE WANT FOR ALL FAMILIES IS 282 00:09:43,733 --> 00:09:44,800 FOR THEM TO MAKE THE CHOICES FOR 283 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,200 THE CHILDCARE ARRANGEMENTS THAT 284 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,366 WORK BEST FOR THEM. 285 00:09:48,366 --> 00:09:49,533 AND WHEN GOVERNMENT GETS INTO 286 00:09:49,533 --> 00:09:50,900 BUSINESS OF HELPING SUBSIDIZE 287 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:52,333 CHILDCARE IT BIASES PEOPLE 288 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:54,366 TOWARDS PEOPLE TOWARDS 289 00:09:54,366 --> 00:09:55,866 PARTICULAR CHILDCARE AND 290 00:09:55,866 --> 00:09:58,200 ENCOURAGES PEOPLE NOT TO USE THE 291 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,766 FAMILY ARRANGEMENTS THAT 292 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:00,800 EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE 293 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,700 ACKNOWLEDGES IF THERE IS AN 294 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,733 OPTION IS GOOD. 295 00:10:03,733 --> 00:10:04,800 THE PROBLEM ON THE REPUBLICAN 296 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,400 SIDE IS THAT THEY IGNORE THIS 297 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,700 IMPORTANT NUMBER FROM PEW WHICH 298 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:09,866 IS THAT ONLY 23% OF WORKING 299 00:10:09,866 --> 00:10:13,000 MOTHERS WOULD CHOOSE TO WORK 300 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:13,300 FULL-TIME IF THEY HAD TO. 301 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:14,300 OR IF THEY COULD. 302 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:15,400 SO I THINK THAT TOO OFTEN 303 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,333 REPUBLICANS SEEM OUT OF TOUCH 304 00:10:18,333 --> 00:10:19,866 BUT I THINK THAT GIVING PEOPLE 305 00:10:19,866 --> 00:10:21,533 MORE OF THEIR OWN RESOURCES TO 306 00:10:21,533 --> 00:10:23,533 MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WORK FOR 307 00:10:23,533 --> 00:10:25,266 THEM IS THE BETTER ROUTE. 308 00:10:25,266 --> 00:10:27,766 >> AND THE LAST SEGMENT WE 309 00:10:27,766 --> 00:10:28,600 FINISHED DISCUSSING AND YOU SAID 310 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,566 THE ONES YOU ARE THE MOST 311 00:10:29,566 --> 00:10:32,766 CONCERNED ABOUT ARE THE POOREST 312 00:10:32,766 --> 00:10:36,433 WOMEN WHO CANNOT GET ANY LEAVE. 313 00:10:36,433 --> 00:10:37,800 WELL IN TERMS OF CHILDCARE THEY 314 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,566 ARE OUT OF IT. 315 00:10:38,566 --> 00:10:39,366 AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 316 00:10:39,366 --> 00:10:40,933 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DEDUCTION 317 00:10:40,933 --> 00:10:42,300 AND A CREDIT. 318 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:49,966 AND IF YOU ARE MIDDLE CLASS, THE 319 00:10:49,966 --> 00:10:50,666 DEDUCTION YOU TAKE OFF OF YOUR 320 00:10:50,666 --> 00:10:51,400 INCOME TAX AND THAT IS GOOD YOU 321 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,000 PAY LESS INCOME TAX. 322 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,666 IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE 323 00:10:52,666 --> 00:10:55,500 PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE CHILDCARE, 324 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:59,600 THEN YOU GOT TO GO TO A CREDIT. 325 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,700 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT SHE IS 326 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:02,366 TRYING TO DO. 327 00:11:02,366 --> 00:11:04,400 SHE IS TRYING NOT TO HELP ME AND 328 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,800 NOT TO HELP YOU. 329 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,200 SHE IS TRYING TO HELP THE WOMEN 330 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,100 WHO NEED IT MOST AND YOU 331 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:13,266 CANNOT -- 332 00:11:13,266 --> 00:11:13,733 >> WHY -- 333 00:11:13,733 --> 00:11:16,133 OF NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR POOR 334 00:11:15,766 --> 00:11:16,733 PEOPLE? 335 00:11:16,733 --> 00:11:19,000 >> ON WHAT BASIS? 336 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,633 >> ON THE DAYCARE. 337 00:11:19,633 --> 00:11:20,633 >> ON WHAT BASIS DO THEY SAY 338 00:11:20,633 --> 00:11:20,933 THAT? 339 00:11:20,933 --> 00:11:22,666 THEY WANT MORE OF A CREDIT? 340 00:11:22,666 --> 00:11:24,266 >> THEY WANT IT FREE. 341 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:28,366 AND THEY WANT FREE COLLEGE 342 00:11:28,366 --> 00:11:32,633 TUITION. 343 00:11:31,066 --> 00:11:32,866 [INAUDIBLE] 344 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:33,433 OK. 345 00:11:33,433 --> 00:11:34,700 LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 346 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:36,066 THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES BECAUSE 347 00:11:36,066 --> 00:11:38,100 WE DO NOT HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT. 348 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:45,933 GARY JOHNSON OR THE GREEN PARTY 349 00:11:45,933 --> 00:11:48,733 CANDIDATE. 350 00:11:46,566 --> 00:11:48,866 ARE THEY A REAL THREAT TO 351 00:11:48,866 --> 00:11:49,666 ANYBODY? 352 00:11:49,666 --> 00:11:50,600 >> THEY ARE IF THEY CAN MAKE IT 353 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,200 ON THE BALLOT. 354 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,533 IF YOU LOOK AT POLLING IN THE 355 00:11:54,533 --> 00:11:55,466 SWING STATES, HILLARY CLINTON 356 00:11:55,466 --> 00:11:56,900 WOULD BE WINNING BY A LARGER 357 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,533 MARGIN IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED 358 00:11:58,533 --> 00:12:00,033 TO BE ON THE BALLOT. 359 00:12:00,033 --> 00:12:01,166 SO SOME OF THIS WILL COME DOWN 360 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:03,366 TO THE BALLOTING DEADLINES AND 361 00:12:03,366 --> 00:12:08,000 THEY COULD PULL MOST STATES BOTH 362 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,566 THE GREEN PARTY HAVE PARTY LINES 363 00:12:09,566 --> 00:12:12,366 ON THE BALLOTS THEY SHOULD BE 364 00:12:12,366 --> 00:12:13,000 ON. 365 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,366 >> ARE WE LOOKING AT -- 366 00:12:15,366 --> 00:12:16,900 ARE WE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 367 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:20,233 BUSH-GORE 2000 WHERE IT CAME 368 00:12:20,233 --> 00:12:23,133 DOWN TO THE VOTERS AND RALPH 369 00:12:23,133 --> 00:12:25,000 NADER TOOK ONE OR 2% OF THE VOTE 370 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,833 IN FLORIDA? 371 00:12:25,833 --> 00:12:28,133 >> WE ARE LOOKING AT A SITUATION 372 00:12:28,133 --> 00:12:30,100 WHERE IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT 373 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:31,800 MORE LIKE 92 IN THE SENSE THAT 374 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,266 THE WINNER DOES NOT EARN A 375 00:12:33,266 --> 00:12:35,666 MAJORITY OF THE POPULAR VOTE 376 00:12:35,666 --> 00:12:37,233 WHERE THESE TWO CANDIDATES 377 00:12:37,233 --> 00:12:39,200 ESSENTIALLY TAKE ENOUGH OF THE 378 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,133 VOTE THAT THE WINNER IS ONLY A 379 00:12:41,133 --> 00:12:45,700 PLEASURE RATTLE POPULAR VOTE 380 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:46,566 WINNER. 381 00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:48,466 >> IT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT OR NOT 382 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:49,600 IT'S WHETHER YOU GET IN THE 383 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,500 DEBATES OR NOT. 384 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:54,133 AND THAT YOU NEED 15% OF THE 385 00:12:54,133 --> 00:12:58,600 VOTE. 386 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,233 >> I'VE SEEN POLLS SO HE IS 387 00:13:01,233 --> 00:13:02,266 NOT -- 388 00:13:02,266 --> 00:13:03,033 [INAUDIBLE] 389 00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:08,133 >> WHERE IS THE POLLING FROM? 390 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:08,333 >> HE IS PULLING A LOT FROM 391 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:09,566 HILLARY CLINTON. 392 00:13:09,566 --> 00:13:11,166 >> IT'S EQUAL. 393 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:12,666 >> FOR BOTH OF THEM. 394 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:13,900 >> BUT IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE 395 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,900 FOR HER BECAUSE I'VE SEEN POLLS 396 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:17,733 SHE WOULD BE RUNNING FOUR POINTS 397 00:13:17,733 --> 00:13:19,000 AHEAD OF DONALD TRUMP IN SWING 398 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,900 STATES AND IT BRINGS HER DOWN. 399 00:13:21,833 --> 00:13:24,033 >> GO BACK TO THE 92 REFERENCE 400 00:13:24,033 --> 00:13:25,900 BILL CLINTON'S FIRST TERM WHY DO 401 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:29,366 WE CARE IF IT'S 43% BECAUSE -- 402 00:13:29,366 --> 00:13:31,933 >> BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO GET 403 00:13:31,933 --> 00:13:34,933 WELFARE REFORM DONE AND GOT 404 00:13:34,933 --> 00:13:38,566 MAJOR THINGS DONE. 405 00:13:38,566 --> 00:13:39,266 AND THE FIRST TWO YEARS WERE 406 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:40,000 VERY, VERY DIFFICULT AND WHAT 407 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,066 THIS HAS TO DO WITH IS THE 408 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:43,100 NOTION OF A GOVERNING MANDATE. 409 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:44,666 IT WOULD BE QUITE A CHANGE OF 410 00:13:44,666 --> 00:13:46,700 HEART FOR DEMOCRATS TO ALL OF A 411 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:47,700 SUDDEN SAY THEY LIKE THE 412 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,666 ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHEN THEY HAVE 413 00:13:49,666 --> 00:13:50,733 BEEN -- 414 00:13:50,733 --> 00:13:55,433 HAVE HAD AVERSION TOWARDS IT. 415 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:57,433 YOU WILL SEE THE IDEA REVERSAL 416 00:13:57,433 --> 00:14:00,300 HERE BUT THERE IS MORE THE ISSUE 417 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:03,800 OF WOULD SHE BE ABLE TO GOVERN. 418 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,500 BARACK OBAMA WON A MAJORITY OF 419 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,000 THE POPULAR VOTE IN 2008 AND IT 420 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,266 WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY HE 421 00:14:09,266 --> 00:14:11,233 HAD A HIGHER APPROVAL RATING 422 00:14:11,233 --> 00:14:15,733 AMONG REPUBLICANS THAN BILL 423 00:14:15,733 --> 00:14:17,166 CLINTON DID AMONG REPUBLICANS ON 424 00:14:17,166 --> 00:14:19,433 THE DAY OF HIS OR GEORGE BUSH 425 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:22,133 HAD AMONG DEMOCRATS ON THE DAY 426 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:24,166 OF HIS. 427 00:14:24,166 --> 00:14:24,966 >> ONE LAST QUESTION: IF TRUMP 428 00:14:24,966 --> 00:14:25,800 LOSES, IS HE GOING TO CLAIM IT 429 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,066 WAS RIGGED AND TRY TO START A 430 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:30,866 REVOLUTION WITH SECOND AMENDMENT 431 00:14:30,866 --> 00:14:31,433 PEOPLE? 432 00:14:31,433 --> 00:14:32,433 >> YOU SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO 433 00:14:32,433 --> 00:14:35,133 ON A VACATION. 434 00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:35,900 AND THE PROBLEM IS THERE ARE A 435 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:36,733 LOT OF AMERICANS WHO ARE HURTING 436 00:14:36,733 --> 00:14:38,066 AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM LIMITED 437 00:14:38,066 --> 00:14:39,333 GOVERNMENT POLICIES THAT ARE 438 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:40,766 GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 439 00:14:40,766 --> 00:14:41,600 FOUR YEARS. 440 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,066 >> YOUR THOUGHTS? 441 00:14:44,066 --> 00:14:47,700 >> YES, I THINK TRUMP IS SETTING 442 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:50,033 UP THE SCENARIO TO LOSE NOW AND 443 00:14:50,033 --> 00:14:51,933 EVERYTHING YOU HEAR PLAYS INTO 444 00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:53,500 THAT AND THE RIGGED ELECTION 445 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:54,833 WHEN ELECTIONS ARE CONDUCTED IN 446 00:14:54,833 --> 00:14:57,900 50 STATES, IS THE MOST BOGUS OF 447 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:58,433 ALL. 448 00:14:58,433 --> 00:14:59,333 >> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. 449 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:02,533 FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE 450 00:15:02,533 --> 00:15:03,833 OR TO THE CONTRARY. 451 00:15:03,833 --> 00:15:05,633 BEHIND THE HEADLINES, GROWING UP 452 00:15:05,633 --> 00:15:07,266 IN THE OTHER AMERICA. 453 00:15:07,266 --> 00:15:09,066 RESEARCH SHOWS IT'S INCREDIBLY 454 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:11,133 HARD FOR DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN 455 00:15:11,133 --> 00:15:13,466 ESPECIALLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO 456 00:15:13,466 --> 00:15:15,033 MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS. 457 00:15:15,033 --> 00:15:17,200 BUT A GROUP OF RESEARCHERS WERE 458 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,466 SURPRISED TO FIND ONE COMMON 459 00:15:19,466 --> 00:15:21,800 THEME AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE WHO DID 460 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,733 MOVE AHEAD. 461 00:15:23,733 --> 00:15:24,966 >> ONE OF THE MOST ENDURING 462 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:26,900 PROMISES OF THE AMERICAN DREAM 463 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:33,966 IS THAT ANYONE CAN SUCCEED. 464 00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:34,633 BUT RESEARCH SHOWS ANOTHER 465 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:34,933 STORY. 466 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:35,566 KIDS BORN TO LOWER INCOME 467 00:15:35,566 --> 00:15:36,266 HOUSEHOLDS STRUGGLE MIGHTLY TO 468 00:15:36,266 --> 00:15:37,066 ENTER THE MIDDLE CLASS. 469 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,733 >> IN THE 1990s, OUR PUBLIC 470 00:15:38,733 --> 00:15:41,433 HOUSING PROJECTS IN AMERICA HAD 471 00:15:41,433 --> 00:15:44,166 BECOME TOXIC DANGEROUS PLACES TO 472 00:15:44,166 --> 00:15:44,666 LIVE. 473 00:15:44,666 --> 00:15:47,466 YOU KNOW AT THAT TIME THERE WERE 474 00:15:47,466 --> 00:15:49,433 SHOWED THAT CONCENTRATED POVERTY 475 00:15:49,433 --> 00:15:51,200 IN NEIGHBORHOODS WAS BAD FOR 476 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,400 CHANCES OF FAMILIES AND 477 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,800 CHILDREN. 478 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,300 A LOST THIS COMBINED INTO A 479 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:58,633 CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO 480 00:15:58,633 --> 00:15:59,433 WITH THE INNER-CITY AND SOME OF 481 00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:00,000 THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 482 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,533 >> PART OF THE GOVERNMENT'S 483 00:16:01,533 --> 00:16:03,500 RESPONSE WAS THE MOVING TO 484 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:05,266 OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM WHICH DE 485 00:16:05,266 --> 00:16:08,000 LUCA STUDIED FOR 13 YEARS. 486 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,900 >> WE SET OUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 487 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:12,666 HAD HAPPENED TO FAMILIES WHO ARE 488 00:16:12,666 --> 00:16:13,533 PART OF THE MOVING TO 489 00:16:13,533 --> 00:16:15,500 OPPORTUNITY EXPERIMENT. 490 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:18,500 WHICH FOCUSED ON BALTIMORE 600 491 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,900 FAMILIES, A THIRD OF WHICH GOT A 492 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:23,600 CHANCE TO MOVE OUT OF THE 493 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,133 PROJECTS INTO LOWER POVERTY 494 00:16:25,133 --> 00:16:25,566 COMMUNITIES. 495 00:16:25,566 --> 00:16:26,933 >> THE RESULTS OF MOVING TO 496 00:16:26,933 --> 00:16:28,866 OPPORTUNITY WERE MIXED WHILE 497 00:16:28,866 --> 00:16:30,533 LEAVING BAD NEIGHBORHOODS HAS 498 00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:32,633 ADVANTAGES, MANY KIDS WERE STILL 499 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:34,800 HINDERED BY FACTORS SUCH AS 500 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,900 RACISM OR LACK OF FAMILY 501 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:37,400 SUPPORT. 502 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,433 STILL THERE WERE SUCCESS 503 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:40,200 STORIES. 504 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,666 >> OVER THE COURSE OF THE 505 00:16:41,666 --> 00:16:42,533 RESEARCH, WE STARTED TO FOLLOW 506 00:16:42,533 --> 00:16:44,700 THE YOUNG ADULTS AND THEY WERE 507 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:46,000 LAUNCHING INTO INDEPENDENTS. 508 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,200 AND WE STARTED TO NOTICE SOME OF 509 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,433 THE KIDS ARE REALLY RESILIENT. 510 00:16:51,433 --> 00:16:52,966 >> AND WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE? 511 00:16:52,966 --> 00:16:55,900 DE LUCA SAYS THEY FOUND 94% OF 512 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:58,200 YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAD AN IDENTITY 513 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:15,966 PROJECT HAD JOBS OR WERE GOING 514 00:17:15,966 --> 00:17:16,366 TO COLLEGE. 515 00:17:16,366 --> 00:17:17,166 >> WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING 516 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:17,900 TO LEARN ABOUT IDENTITY PROJECTS 517 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:18,366 AND WE STARTED. 518 00:17:18,366 --> 00:17:19,000 THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT 519 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,633 PROVIDE AN ESCAPE FROM THE 520 00:17:19,633 --> 00:17:20,233 DIFFICULTY OF DAILY LIFE 521 00:17:20,233 --> 00:17:20,900 CHALLENGES WHICH MANY YOUNG 522 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:21,300 PEOPLE HAD. 523 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:21,933 BUT ALSO PROVIDED A WAY TO 524 00:17:21,933 --> 00:17:22,633 DEFINE WHAT YOU WERE AND WERE 525 00:17:22,633 --> 00:17:22,900 NOT. 526 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:23,533 WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT AND NOT 527 00:17:23,533 --> 00:17:23,833 ABOUT. 528 00:17:23,833 --> 00:17:24,566 THAT DISTINCTION IS LIFE-SAVING. 529 00:17:24,566 --> 00:17:25,300 >> ONE PERSON WHO FOUND HER 530 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:28,133 IDENTITY PROJECT IS BRITNEY. 531 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:30,133 SHE DEVELOPED A PASSION FOR 532 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:30,466 DANCING. 533 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:32,433 >> I WAS SO COMMITTED TO 534 00:17:32,433 --> 00:17:34,200 DANCING, EVERY TIME EVERYDAY I 535 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,866 CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL I WOULD GO 536 00:17:35,866 --> 00:17:37,433 AND DANCE AND PRACTICE 537 00:17:37,433 --> 00:17:38,733 EVERYTHING TO BE BETTER. 538 00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:40,100 AND IT KEPT ME FROM GOING DOWN 539 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:42,033 THE WRONG PATH AND I WAS GETTING 540 00:17:42,033 --> 00:17:43,133 IN TROUBLE THAT MOST PEOPLE 541 00:17:43,133 --> 00:17:44,766 WOULD GET INTO IF THEY DID NOT 542 00:17:44,766 --> 00:17:47,000 HAVE THE ACTIVITIES OR IF THEY 543 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,100 DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING WITH A 544 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:53,233 PASSION TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING 545 00:17:53,233 --> 00:17:54,033 SOMETHING TO BEING IN THE CITY. 546 00:17:54,033 --> 00:17:56,433 AND THE TROUBLE THAT YOU GET 547 00:17:56,433 --> 00:17:57,233 INTO. 548 00:17:57,233 --> 00:17:58,200 >> BRITNEY WENT TO A SPECIAL 549 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,633 SCHOOL FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERED 550 00:18:00,633 --> 00:18:06,833 THE ARMY AND WENT TO SCHOOL TO 551 00:18:06,833 --> 00:18:07,500 BECOME A MEDICAL ASSISTANT. 552 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:08,233 TODAY SHE HAS TWO CHILDREN AND 553 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:08,966 LIVES WITH HER CHILDREN'S FATHER 554 00:18:08,966 --> 00:18:09,800 WHO IS ALSO MOTIVATED TO MAKE A 555 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,366 BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR FAMILY. 556 00:18:11,366 --> 00:18:12,833 BRITNEY IS PLANNING TO GO BACK 557 00:18:12,833 --> 00:18:14,500 TO SCHOOL TO BECOME A NURSE. 558 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:15,866 BUT BRITNEY HAS HAD HER STRUGGLE 559 00:18:15,866 --> 00:18:16,966 STRUGGLES, TOO. 560 00:18:16,966 --> 00:18:18,400 SHE GREW UP AROUND PEOPLE WHO 561 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,133 DID DRUGS OR COMMITTED VIOLENCE 562 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:23,266 AND SAW PEOPLE DIE IN FRONT OF 563 00:18:23,266 --> 00:18:23,900 HER. 564 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:25,533 >> LIVING IN IT ALL THE TIME, 565 00:18:25,533 --> 00:18:30,233 YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE OH, BECAUSE 566 00:18:27,866 --> 00:18:30,700 YOU ARE SO USED TO IT. 567 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:31,766 SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I DID 568 00:18:31,766 --> 00:18:47,000 NOT WANT MY KIDS TO GROW UP 569 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,733 AROUND ALL THE VIOLENCE AND THE 570 00:18:47,733 --> 00:18:48,033 DRUGS. 571 00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:48,800 >> AS HARD AS YOU WORK TO MOVE 572 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,500 FORWARD YOU STILL HAVE CLOSE 573 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:50,066 TIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE 574 00:18:50,066 --> 00:18:50,466 STRUGGLING. 575 00:18:50,466 --> 00:18:51,166 AND THAT DOESN'T JUST GO AWAY. 576 00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:51,700 GRIT IS NOT ENOUGH. 577 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:52,433 BUT THE YOUNG ADULTS HAVE GOTTEN 578 00:18:52,433 --> 00:18:53,166 TO THE STARTING GATE AGAINST THE 579 00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:53,900 ODDS BUT NOT ALL CAN FINISH THE 580 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:54,633 RACE AND THAT IS HOW WE STEP IN 581 00:18:54,633 --> 00:19:08,066 AND WE CAN DO BETTER BY THEM. 582 00:19:08,066 --> 00:19:08,600 >> DE LUCA SAYS 583 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,300 INTERJENNINGSRATIONAL POVERTY 584 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:10,033 DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INEVITABLE 585 00:19:10,033 --> 00:19:10,700 BUT SUPPORT SHOULD GO BEYOND 586 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,066 PRESCHOOL. 587 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:11,866 >> WE COULDN'T ALL OF THE YOUNG 588 00:19:11,866 --> 00:19:12,500 PEOPLE IN OUR STUDY SHARED 589 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:13,066 DISADVANTAGED ORIGINS. 590 00:19:13,066 --> 00:19:13,733 AND WE LOOKED TO SEE WHETHER 591 00:19:13,733 --> 00:19:14,700 THERE WAS A PATTERN IN THOSE WHO 592 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:15,566 FOUND AN IDENTITY PROJECT. 593 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:17,200 A LOT OF POLICY ATTENTION IS 594 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,266 FOCUSED ON VERY YOUNG CHILDREN 595 00:19:20,266 --> 00:19:23,266 IN THE EARLY YEARS. 596 00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:24,100 BUT WE CANNOT ABANDON OUR YOUNG 597 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:24,800 ADULTS INSTEAD OF SAYING AFTER 598 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,600 AGE 5 THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN 599 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:25,866 DO. 600 00:19:25,866 --> 00:19:28,933 WE FIND THAT NOTHING CAN BE 601 00:19:28,933 --> 00:19:30,300 FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH FROM 602 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,166 THAT. 603 00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:33,066 >> SO SINCE THE ANTI-POVERTY 604 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:34,866 MOVEMENTS BEGAN BACK IN THE 605 00:19:34,866 --> 00:19:38,500 1960s, WE HAVE SPENT MORE THAN 606 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:42,333 $20 BILLION, WAY MORE, ON 607 00:19:42,333 --> 00:19:47,966 ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAMS AND YET, 608 00:19:45,033 --> 00:19:48,166 THE POVERTY RATE IS HIGHER NOW 609 00:19:48,166 --> 00:19:48,533 TODAY. 610 00:19:48,533 --> 00:19:50,533 WHY IS THIS GOING ON IN THE LAND 611 00:19:50,533 --> 00:19:51,666 OF OPPORTUNITY? 612 00:19:51,666 --> 00:19:53,900 >> I THINK A HUGE ISSUE HERE 613 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:55,766 THAT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT IN 614 00:19:55,766 --> 00:19:57,666 THE BEGINNING HERE IS EDUCATION. 615 00:19:57,666 --> 00:19:58,666 AND LETTING PEOPLE HAVE THE 616 00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:00,366 CHOICES TO GO TO SCHOOLS AND TO 617 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:01,366 BETTER THEMSELVES. 618 00:20:01,366 --> 00:20:02,400 AND WHEN YOU GIVE PEOPLE THOSE 619 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,466 OPPORTUNITIES -- 620 00:20:03,466 --> 00:20:04,866 >> DO YOU THINK CHARTER SCHOOLS 621 00:20:04,866 --> 00:20:05,966 IS THE ANSWER. 622 00:20:05,966 --> 00:20:09,133 >> I DON'T THINK JUST CHARTER 623 00:20:09,133 --> 00:20:10,366 SCHOOLS, BUT I THINK THE TRUE 624 00:20:10,366 --> 00:20:11,800 EDUCATIONAL FREEDOM WHETHER OUR 625 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,400 FAMILIES THAT HAVE A DAUGHTER 626 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,233 LIKE THIS SAYING SHE DOESN'T 627 00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:21,666 WANT TO FALL INTO THE CYCLE OF 628 00:20:21,666 --> 00:20:22,200 CRIME AND VIOLENCE. 629 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,933 SHE HAS ASPIRATIONS AND TALENTS 630 00:20:22,933 --> 00:20:23,633 LET'S FIND HER AN OPPORTUNITY 631 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:24,066 AND THEY DID. 632 00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:24,966 THERE'S MANY MORE FAMILIES OUT 633 00:20:24,966 --> 00:20:25,566 THERE LIKE THAT. 634 00:20:25,566 --> 00:20:26,400 >> I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH 635 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,533 YOU ABOUT THE EDUCATION. 636 00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:29,833 IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO 637 00:20:29,833 --> 00:20:31,966 AMERICANS FROM THE BEGINNING AS 638 00:20:31,966 --> 00:20:34,633 EACH GENERATION DID BETTER 639 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:34,766 EDUCATION HAS BEEN A KEY. 640 00:20:34,766 --> 00:20:37,800 AND WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THAT 641 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,366 IS NOT THE ISSUE IT WAS. 642 00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:42,900 A GENERATION OR TWO AGO. 643 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:43,900 WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS 644 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,600 PROJECT IS THIS NOTION OF A 645 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,166 PASSION OR AN IDENTITY PROJECT. 646 00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:49,333 THINK ABOUT IT. 647 00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:51,566 THAT IS WHAT MIDDLE CLASS KIDS 648 00:20:51,566 --> 00:20:53,400 GET FROM THE BEGINNING. 649 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,633 >> PRIVATE MUSIC LESSONS. 650 00:20:55,633 --> 00:20:57,100 >> JOHNNY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE 651 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,200 WHEN YOU GROW UP? 652 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,100 YOU FOCUS THE KID ON THE FUTURE 653 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:03,233 FROM THE BEGINNING. 654 00:21:03,233 --> 00:21:04,266 SO IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING THAT, 655 00:21:04,266 --> 00:21:06,633 IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING THAT 656 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,766 FOCUS ON THE FUTURE, THEN THIS 657 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:12,200 NOTION AND THE FIGURES ARE 658 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,066 AMAZING, 90% OF THOSE WHO HAD A 659 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:19,000 QUOTE IDENTITY PROJECT AND IT 660 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,366 DID NOT MATTER WHAT IT WAS IT 661 00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:24,100 MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AN EDUCATIONAL 662 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:24,833 PROJECT IT MAY HAVE BEEN FIXING 663 00:21:24,833 --> 00:21:25,566 CARS BUT IT FOCUSED ON SOMETHING 664 00:21:25,566 --> 00:21:27,133 THAT SEEMED TO TO BE A ROAD TO 665 00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:28,000 THE FUTURE. 666 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,266 THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE 667 00:21:29,266 --> 00:21:30,666 BREAKTHROUGH AS FAR AS I'M 668 00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:31,066 CONCERNED. 669 00:21:31,066 --> 00:21:32,933 AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY SAY 670 00:21:32,933 --> 00:21:34,866 THESE KIDS STILL NEED HELP THEY 671 00:21:34,866 --> 00:21:37,000 NEED HELP BEYOND HEADSTART AND 672 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,733 THEY NEED HELP AFTER. 673 00:21:39,733 --> 00:21:41,500 AFTER HEADSTART THEY GET INTO 674 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:43,433 THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND FOR 675 00:21:43,433 --> 00:22:05,233 SOME REASON IT'S GONE ALL OF 676 00:22:05,233 --> 00:22:05,933 THAT ELEVATION THAT THEY HAD. 677 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:06,666 SO THIS IS WHY THESE PROJECTS I 678 00:22:06,666 --> 00:22:07,266 DO NOT THINK THIS WAS A 679 00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:08,000 GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROJECT ARE 680 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,733 IMPORTANT TO TELL US WHAT IS THE 681 00:22:08,733 --> 00:22:09,466 KEY THAT WE DID NOT KNOW BEFORE. 682 00:22:09,466 --> 00:22:10,266 >> AND YET THERE WAS A STUDY OUT 683 00:22:10,266 --> 00:22:10,966 THAT SHOWED THAT NEIGHBORHOODS 684 00:22:10,966 --> 00:22:11,533 AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS 685 00:22:11,533 --> 00:22:12,233 IMPOVERISHED AFRICAN-AMERICANS 686 00:22:12,233 --> 00:22:12,766 ARE MORE CONFINED IN 687 00:22:12,766 --> 00:22:13,500 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALL POOR 688 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:18,666 AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN 689 00:22:15,766 --> 00:22:21,733 WHITE PEOPLE. 690 00:22:21,733 --> 00:22:22,433 WHITE IMPOVERISHED PEOPLE MOVE 691 00:22:22,433 --> 00:22:23,100 INTO MIDDLE AND UPPER CLASS 692 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:42,933 AREAS. 693 00:22:23,433 --> 00:23:36,833 MORE EMPHASIS 694 00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:39,133 CHILDREN'S CHILDREN WHO ACTUALLY 695 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:39,633 MAKE IT. 696 00:23:39,633 --> 00:23:42,333 >> ARE YOU SAYING INTEGRATION 697 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,100 IS -- 698 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:45,700 >> NO I'M SAYING -- 699 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,766 >> I WANTED TO ASK 80% OF THE 700 00:23:47,766 --> 00:23:50,633 PEOPLE WHO IMMIGRATE TO AMERICA 701 00:23:50,633 --> 00:23:52,566 ARE TOTALLY IMPOVERISHED AND DO 702 00:23:52,566 --> 00:23:54,433 NOT HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL 703 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:54,833 EDUCATION. 704 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:57,166 WHEN WE ARE IMPORTING POVERTY AS 705 00:23:57,166 --> 00:23:59,300 WE DO THROUGH OUR IMMIGRATION 706 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:02,933 POLICY, WHILE FIGHTING POVERTY 707 00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:04,233 IS IT COUNTERPRODUCTIVE? 708 00:24:04,233 --> 00:24:04,633 >> NO. 709 00:24:04,633 --> 00:24:05,766 BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IS 710 00:24:05,766 --> 00:24:07,700 TRUE IS PEOPLE WHO LEAVE THEIR 711 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:09,933 COUNTRIES TO COME HERE ARE 712 00:24:09,933 --> 00:24:12,433 PROFOUNDLY COMMITTED IF YOU 713 00:24:12,433 --> 00:24:14,100 WILL, THEY ALL HAVE AN IDENTITY 714 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,233 PROJECT BEFORE THEY ARRIVE TO 715 00:24:16,233 --> 00:24:18,033 GET THEMSELVES INTO A BETTER 716 00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:19,200 PLACE AND BETTER POSITION. 717 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,766 THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THE 718 00:24:21,766 --> 00:24:23,100 RISKS AND BASICALLY DONE THE 719 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,900 WORK THAT IT WILL BE TO DO 720 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:26,866 WHATEVER IT IS TO SUCCEED. 721 00:24:26,866 --> 00:24:29,233 I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO REALIZE 722 00:24:29,233 --> 00:24:31,333 THAT THE AMERICAN DREAM IS A 723 00:24:31,333 --> 00:24:32,933 LITTLE BIT MORE CONSTRAINING 724 00:24:32,933 --> 00:24:34,000 THAN PEOPLE THINK IT IS. 725 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,433 IN THE SENSE IT TAKES A LOT 726 00:24:37,433 --> 00:24:37,766 LONGER. 727 00:24:37,766 --> 00:24:39,666 >> WHY HASN'T THAT GENERATION 728 00:24:39,666 --> 00:24:42,200 THINGS WORKED FOR 729 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,733 AFRICAN-AMERICANS? 730 00:24:42,733 --> 00:24:43,733 >> THE OTHER PIECE THAT 731 00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:45,733 FRUSTRATES ME AS A COLLEGE 732 00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:46,733 PROFESSOR AND SOMEBODY THAT HAS 733 00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:48,500 SEEN THIS TIME AND AGAIN THOSE 734 00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,000 STUDENTS WHO COME TO 735 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,633 UNIVERSITIES WHO DO NOT HAVE THE 736 00:24:52,633 --> 00:24:55,233 ADVANTAGES OF MIDDLE CLASS OR 737 00:24:55,233 --> 00:24:57,433 WEALTHIER CLASSES, ALSO DO NOT 738 00:24:57,433 --> 00:24:59,466 GET TO HAVE THE ADVANTAGES OF 739 00:24:59,466 --> 00:25:01,033 THOSE STUDENTS IN COLLEGE. 740 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,166 FOR INSTANCE POLITICAL 741 00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:03,733 INTERNSHIPS. 742 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:06,533 I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW OFTEN I AM 743 00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,500 FRUSTRATED BY THE NOTION THAT 744 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,400 OUR STUDENTS WHO HAVE THE 745 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,666 ABILITY TO SUCCEED IN POLITICS 746 00:25:13,666 --> 00:25:14,800 CAN'T BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE 747 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,400 THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO WORK 748 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,200 FOR FREE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN 749 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,400 ORDER TO GET OFFERED A JOB. 750 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,200 >> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I 751 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,700 STRUGGLED WITH. 752 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:27,700 I COULD NOT DO THE FREE 753 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,033 INTERNSHIPS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE 754 00:25:29,033 --> 00:25:30,433 THE EXPERIENCE ON YOUR RESUME 755 00:25:30,433 --> 00:25:32,800 WHICH MAKES IT HARD TO GET A 756 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,200 JOB. 757 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,666 I'M PRO FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT 758 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:38,633 PAY FOR THE INTERNSHIPS. 759 00:25:36,700 --> 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