1 00:00:00,066 --> 00:00:02,000 CARPENTER FOUNDATION AND THE 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:09,733 CHARLES A. FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION. 3 00:00:09,733 --> 00:00:10,433 THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY. 4 00:00:10,433 --> 00:00:11,166 FIRST, AN HISTORIC SUMMIT AT THE 5 00:00:11,166 --> 00:00:11,900 VATICAN TAKES ON SEXUAL ABUSE. 6 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:12,633 THEN, HOW RACISM IMPACTED BLACK 7 00:00:12,633 --> 00:00:13,600 SUFFRAGISTS FIGHTING FOR WOMEN'S 8 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,600 VOTING RIGHTS. 9 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,833 BEHIND THE HEADLINES, THE 10 00:00:16,833 --> 00:00:17,533 HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE OF BLACK 11 00:00:17,533 --> 00:00:18,233 HISTORY MONTH, FROM TWO WOMEN 12 00:00:18,233 --> 00:00:37,733 WHO KNOW. 13 00:00:37,733 --> 00:00:39,066 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. 14 00:00:39,066 --> 00:00:40,066 WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A 15 00:00:40,066 --> 00:00:42,600 DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,233 TRENDS FROM DIVERSE 17 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:45,033 PERSPECTIVES. 18 00:00:45,033 --> 00:00:45,766 UP FIRST, THE POPE TAKES ON SEX 19 00:00:45,766 --> 00:00:49,366 ABUSE. 20 00:00:49,366 --> 00:00:51,200 "HEAR THE CRY OF THE LITTLE ONES 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,900 ASKING FOR JUSTICE." 22 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:54,566 THAT'S WHAT POPE FRANCIS URGED 23 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:55,600 HIGH-RANKING OFFICIALS TO DO AS 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,766 HE OPENED AN HISTORIC SUMMIT 25 00:00:57,766 --> 00:00:59,933 AIMED AT ADDRESSING SEXUAL ABUSE 26 00:00:59,933 --> 00:01:01,300 SCANDALS PLAGUING THE CATHOLIC 27 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:03,366 CHURCH. 28 00:01:03,366 --> 00:01:05,466 ALMOST 200 CHURCH OFFICIALS FROM 29 00:01:05,466 --> 00:01:07,466 MORE THAN 100 NATIONS ARE AT THE 30 00:01:07,466 --> 00:01:10,033 FOUR-DAY CONFERENCE TO DISCUSS 31 00:01:10,033 --> 00:01:11,800 THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN 32 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,166 DEALING WITH ABUSE ALLEGATIONS. 33 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:15,933 LAST WEEK, THE POPE DEFROCKED 34 00:01:15,933 --> 00:01:18,066 FORMER US CARDINAL THEODORE 35 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:19,800 MCCARRICK AFTER HE WAS FOUND 36 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,366 GUILTY OF ABUSE BY THE VATICAN. 37 00:01:22,366 --> 00:01:23,900 EXPERTS SAY THAT MCCARRICK'S 38 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:25,633 CASE SHOWS THE VATICAN'S 39 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,333 WILLINGNESS TO HOLD POWERFUL 40 00:01:27,333 --> 00:01:28,466 ARCHBISHOPS ACCOUNTABLE. 41 00:01:28,466 --> 00:01:29,200 BUT THAT COMES AFTER DECADES OF 42 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,533 CHURCH OFFICIALS DOWNPLAYING OR 43 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:35,566 OUTRIGHT DENYING THE PROBLEM. 44 00:01:35,566 --> 00:01:37,433 LAST YEAR, THE POPE HIMSELF CAME 45 00:01:37,433 --> 00:01:39,466 UNDER INTENSE CRITICISM FOR 46 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:41,366 DEFENDING A CHILEAN BISHOP 47 00:01:41,366 --> 00:01:43,000 WIDELY SUSPECTED OF COVERING UP 48 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,666 ANOTHER BISHOP'S ABUSE. 49 00:01:45,666 --> 00:01:46,333 SURVIVORS AND ADVOCATES ARE 50 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:49,600 URGING THE POPE TO ESTABLISH A 51 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,833 ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR 52 00:01:51,833 --> 00:01:52,633 ABUSIVE PRIESTS AND THOSE WHO 53 00:01:52,633 --> 00:01:55,700 COVER FOR THEM. 54 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:57,100 >> SO CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, IS 55 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,133 THE CHURCH AND THE POPE, ARE 56 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:01,233 THEY FINALLY ON THE RIGHT TRACK? 57 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:05,766 >> BONNIE, THE CHURCH IS FINALLY 58 00:02:05,766 --> 00:02:06,266 COMPELLED TO ACT. 59 00:02:06,266 --> 00:02:07,566 NOW THE LAW ENFORCEMENT 60 00:02:07,566 --> 00:02:08,800 AUTHORITIES, LIKE THOSE IN 61 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,866 PENNSYLVANIA, ARE MOVING 62 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:13,300 AGGRESSIVELY. 63 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:14,400 >> YEAH. 64 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,500 I THINK THIS IS A BETTER STEP 65 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:19,033 THAN WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IN 66 00:02:19,033 --> 00:02:20,833 BOSTON 20 YEARS AGO AND WE SAW 67 00:02:20,833 --> 00:02:21,566 NOTHING COME OF IT. 68 00:02:21,566 --> 00:02:23,733 >> THIS IS A CRISIS OF FAITH AND 69 00:02:23,733 --> 00:02:24,600 I HATE TO SAY IT. 70 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,400 ANYTHING SHORT OF ZERO TOLERANCE 71 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,833 IS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE. 72 00:02:28,833 --> 00:02:30,100 >> WE'RE BANKRUPT IN TERMS OF 73 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:33,933 MORALITY HERE, AND I THINK THAT 74 00:02:33,933 --> 00:02:36,000 PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE CAESAR 75 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,100 JUDGING CAESAR. 76 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:38,566 THE ENDS OF IT. 77 00:02:38,566 --> 00:02:40,033 >> WELL, BUT PATRICE MENTIONED, 78 00:02:40,033 --> 00:02:43,200 MEGAN, AND YOU GREW UP IN THE 79 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,033 CHURCH, THAT, YOU KNOW, BOSTON 80 00:02:45,033 --> 00:02:46,766 20S YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY THE 81 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:49,500 SCANDALS BROKE IN AUSTRALIA 30 82 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:52,033 YEARS AGO AND HIT THE U.S. TWO 83 00:02:52,033 --> 00:02:54,466 DECADES AGO, AND I KNOW THAT'S 84 00:02:54,466 --> 00:02:57,233 LIKE A SPLIT SECOND IN THE 85 00:02:57,233 --> 00:02:57,966 HISTORY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, 86 00:02:57,966 --> 00:03:01,700 WHICH TOOK 500 YEARS TO 87 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:08,266 EXONERATE GALILEO, THE GRAVITY 88 00:03:08,266 --> 00:03:08,566 THING. 89 00:03:08,566 --> 00:03:11,066 >> RIGHT. 90 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:13,733 >> ANYWAY, BUT WILL THIS -- I 91 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:17,200 MEAN, IS IT JUST GOING TO BE 92 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:17,633 CHIPPING AWAY? 93 00:03:17,633 --> 00:03:19,133 >> THINGS WOULD MOVE FASTER IN 94 00:03:19,133 --> 00:03:21,366 TODAY'S SOCIETY AND I THINK 95 00:03:21,366 --> 00:03:22,566 PEOPLE UNIVERSITY FEEL LIKE THIS 96 00:03:22,566 --> 00:03:26,333 IS SO LONG OVERDUE AND IT IS 97 00:03:26,333 --> 00:03:29,400 VERY -- IT ECHOES WHAT WE'VE 98 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,633 SEEN IN OTHER PATRIARCHAL 99 00:03:31,633 --> 00:03:32,566 HIERARCHIES. 100 00:03:32,566 --> 00:03:34,866 THERE'S A SICKLING. 101 00:03:34,866 --> 00:03:36,566 WAGON, IN THE MILITARY SEXUAL 102 00:03:36,566 --> 00:03:39,166 ASSAULT, IN-LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH 103 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:42,266 POLICE ABUSES, AND I THINK 104 00:03:42,266 --> 00:03:43,800 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. 105 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,866 AND WE HAVE TO REBUILD THE TRUST 106 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:47,833 THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR 107 00:03:47,833 --> 00:03:49,500 INSTITUTIONS, AND OF COURSE THAT 108 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:52,066 WOULD INCLUDE THEIR CHURCH. 109 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:53,766 >> WELL, ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU 110 00:03:53,766 --> 00:03:54,266 THINK? 111 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:55,566 >> YOU KNOW, I THINK AS THEY ARE 112 00:03:55,566 --> 00:03:57,700 GOING THROUGH THE SUMMIT AND 113 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:00,566 LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS, THERE'S 114 00:04:00,566 --> 00:04:01,900 GOT TO BE TRANSPARENCY. 115 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:04,400 THERE'S GOT TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY 116 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,033 IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE 117 00:04:07,033 --> 00:04:08,366 TO REGAIN TRUST IN THE 118 00:04:08,366 --> 00:04:08,766 INSTITUTION. 119 00:04:08,766 --> 00:04:15,033 IT SEEMS LIKE THE PEW RESEARCH 120 00:04:15,033 --> 00:04:15,766 DATA SAYS CONTACT LICKS ARE 121 00:04:15,766 --> 00:04:16,266 LOSING CONFIDENCE. 122 00:04:16,266 --> 00:04:18,300 >> ARE THEY LOSING MEMBERSHIP? 123 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,000 IS THEIR GLOBAL MEMBERSHIP GOING 124 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,300 DOWN? 125 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:22,766 >> THEY'RE LOSING MEMBERSHIP IN 126 00:04:22,766 --> 00:04:24,166 SOME COUNTRIES. 127 00:04:24,166 --> 00:04:24,900 >> DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN >> IN 128 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:25,433 DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. 129 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:26,300 >> THEY'RE GONE IN EUROPE PRETTY 130 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:27,233 MUCH. 131 00:04:27,233 --> 00:04:27,533 RIGHT? 132 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:29,566 >> THAT WAS HAPPENING ANYWAY. 133 00:04:29,566 --> 00:04:34,133 THIS ONLY ACCELERATES IT. 134 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:36,700 THIS IS -- IT'S VERY IMPORTANT 135 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:43,100 FOR US TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN 136 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:43,833 WRONGDOING AND UNDER CIVIL 137 00:04:43,833 --> 00:04:45,766 AUTHORITIES AND WRONGDOING UNDER 138 00:04:45,766 --> 00:04:46,433 THE CHURCH. 139 00:04:46,433 --> 00:04:48,933 I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. 140 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:52,233 THEIRS IS A DIFFERENT MATRIX. 141 00:04:52,233 --> 00:04:56,400 EVEN INVOLVING CHILDREN I'M SURE 142 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,666 THAT THE PRIESTS AND OVER SEARS 143 00:04:58,666 --> 00:04:59,633 THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED HAVE 144 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:01,300 SAID THEY WILL BE FOR GIVEN AND 145 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,166 WE WILL SEND THEM TO ANOTHER 146 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:03,466 PLACE. 147 00:05:03,466 --> 00:05:04,400 IT'S AT THE HEART OF 148 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,666 CHRISTIANITY IS FORGIVENESS. 149 00:05:06,666 --> 00:05:10,300 EVEN FOR TERRIBLE SINS LIKE -- 150 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:10,666 >> RIGHT. 151 00:05:10,666 --> 00:05:11,866 BUT WHAT ABOUT -- 152 00:05:11,866 --> 00:05:12,200 >> WAIT. 153 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,466 I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM CATHOLIC 154 00:05:15,466 --> 00:05:16,266 THEOLOGY NOW. 155 00:05:16,266 --> 00:05:18,533 OF COURSE WHAT ABOUT -- BUT I'M 156 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:20,566 SAYING, WHAT ABOUT THE VICTIMS, 157 00:05:20,566 --> 00:05:21,033 TOO? 158 00:05:21,033 --> 00:05:23,466 IF THE CHURCH OPPOSES CAPITAL 159 00:05:23,466 --> 00:05:24,166 PUNISHMENT? 160 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:25,333 WHAT I'M -- WHAT ABOUT THE 161 00:05:25,333 --> 00:05:25,666 VICTIMS? 162 00:05:25,666 --> 00:05:27,566 THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS THINKING OF 163 00:05:27,566 --> 00:05:30,200 BOTH THE VICTIM AND -- I'M NOT 164 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,700 CATHOLIC HERE. 165 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:32,433 OF BOTH THE VICTIM AND THE SIN 166 00:05:32,433 --> 00:05:36,000 L&C TOWER AND SO I'M GOING TO 167 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,766 UNDERSTAND HOW VERY GOOD MEN 168 00:05:38,766 --> 00:05:40,233 LIKE THE POPE WHO, BY THE WAY, 169 00:05:40,233 --> 00:05:42,500 HAS IN MANY WAYS BEEN A 170 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:45,333 WONDERFUL PATH BREAKING POPE, 171 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:47,833 HOW HE COULD NOT SEE THIS. 172 00:05:47,833 --> 00:05:49,233 AND I'M TRYING TO KEEP FROM 173 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:51,233 THINKING LIKE ELEANOR HOLMES 174 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:54,633 NORTON WITH A LAW DEGREE AND 175 00:05:54,633 --> 00:05:55,200 THINK LIKE A PRIEST. 176 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,733 THAT IS HARD TO DO. 177 00:05:55,733 --> 00:05:59,500 >> BUT THEY DID IT, THIS 178 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:00,300 COMMISSION OR COUNCIL, LAY OUT 179 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:03,066 RULES THAT BISHOPS HAVE TO USE 180 00:06:03,066 --> 00:06:05,066 WHEN THEY FIND ALLEGATIONS OF 181 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:07,166 ABUSE AGAINST PRIESTS, AGAINST 182 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:07,766 OTHER HIGHER OFFICIALS. 183 00:06:07,766 --> 00:06:09,800 >> WELL, PERHAPS THEY DIDN'T 184 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,100 HAVE THAT BEFORE AND THAT LEVEL 185 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,366 OF ACCOUNTABILITY DIDN'T EXIST. 186 00:06:13,366 --> 00:06:14,500 I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS. 187 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:15,333 AN I OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC 188 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:16,033 SETTING. 189 00:06:16,033 --> 00:06:17,933 THE CHRISTIAN WORLD, LOTS OF 190 00:06:17,933 --> 00:06:19,366 DENOMINATIONS STRUGGLE WITH THIS 191 00:06:19,366 --> 00:06:21,133 VERY SAME ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S, 192 00:06:21,133 --> 00:06:22,266 YOU KNOW -- AND UNFORTUNATELY, 193 00:06:22,266 --> 00:06:26,066 BECAUSE THERE'S A LACK OF 194 00:06:26,066 --> 00:06:26,666 ACCOUNTABILITY, BECAUSE 195 00:06:26,666 --> 00:06:27,300 INDEPENDENT CHURCHES, FOR 196 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:28,000 EXAMPLE, HAVE NO ONE TELLING 197 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,900 THEM, IMPOSING THESE KINDS OF 198 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:30,133 RULES THAT BRING SOME 199 00:06:30,133 --> 00:06:31,666 ACCOUNTABILITY, THIS GOES UN 200 00:06:31,666 --> 00:06:33,500 DEMOCRAT WITH. 201 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:34,766 SO I THINK THIS IS GOOD AND 202 00:06:34,766 --> 00:06:35,900 THERE SHOULD BE A CAUTIONARY 203 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:37,766 TALE TO EVERY FAITH THAT YOU 204 00:06:37,766 --> 00:06:38,833 NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE 205 00:06:38,833 --> 00:06:40,900 LEADERS AND BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH 206 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:41,666 THIS BEHAVIOR WHEN IT HAPPENS. 207 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:43,233 >> I WONDER, THOUGH. 208 00:06:43,233 --> 00:06:43,966 I AM A CATHOLIC. 209 00:06:43,966 --> 00:06:46,300 I HAD 13 YEARS OF CATHOLIC 210 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:46,633 SCHOOL. 211 00:06:46,633 --> 00:06:47,966 THE FACT THAT THE CATHOLIC 212 00:06:47,966 --> 00:06:49,300 CHURCH IS REALLY SORT OF AN 213 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:50,966 OUTLIER WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING 214 00:06:50,966 --> 00:06:53,400 WOMEN A PATH TO LEADERSHIP, IF 215 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,233 THAT'S THE REASON, NOW MAYBE 216 00:06:56,233 --> 00:06:57,400 THERE ARE THESE PROBLEMS IN 217 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,600 OTHER CHURCHES AND I JUST DON'T 218 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,533 KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE 219 00:07:00,533 --> 00:07:02,566 THEY ARE SINGULAR IN HAVING SUCH 220 00:07:02,566 --> 00:07:03,200 A BIG PROBLEM. 221 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 >> WHOLE, I WAS GOING TO ASK 222 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:05,666 ABOUT MARRIAGE. 223 00:07:05,666 --> 00:07:07,333 IS THIS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 224 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:11,666 THE SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARDS ALLOW 225 00:07:11,666 --> 00:07:12,233 ING PRIESTS TO MARRY? 226 00:07:12,233 --> 00:07:13,333 >> YOU MENTIONED SEXUAL ABUSE IN 227 00:07:13,333 --> 00:07:13,966 THE MILITARY. 228 00:07:13,966 --> 00:07:15,133 IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T BIG 229 00:07:15,133 --> 00:07:17,300 INSTITUTIONS WHERE MARRIAGE IS 230 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:18,333 ALLOWED, WHERE THIS KIND OF 231 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:20,166 STUFF DID YOU WANT GO ON, BUT IT 232 00:07:20,166 --> 00:07:22,633 SEALS LIKE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT 233 00:07:22,633 --> 00:07:24,666 WENT ON HERE, I ACTUALLY THINK 234 00:07:24,666 --> 00:07:26,200 IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND I 235 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,333 THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE 236 00:07:28,333 --> 00:07:29,200 PRIESTHOOD IN GENERAL. 237 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,766 I THINK THERE WOULD BE A GREATER 238 00:07:31,766 --> 00:07:34,133 UNDERSTANDING OF THE FLOCK IF 239 00:07:34,133 --> 00:07:39,900 THEY'RE HAVING SIMILAR LIVES. 240 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:41,866 I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THAT 241 00:07:41,866 --> 00:07:42,400 WOULD BE NECESSARY. 242 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,333 AND EVERYBODY I KNOW IN THE 243 00:07:43,333 --> 00:07:44,333 CATHOLIC CHURCH SAID IT WAS AN 244 00:07:44,333 --> 00:07:45,433 ECONOMIC DECISION. 245 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:46,333 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY 246 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,500 FOR ALL THOSE FAMILIES, WHICH, 247 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,633 YOU KNOW, COULD MAKE SOME SENSE. 248 00:07:50,633 --> 00:07:53,000 >> BUT ALSO, IT'S RAISING A LOT 249 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,800 OF THE SEMINARIANS ARE WHERE THE 250 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,766 OLDER PRIESTS WERE GOING TO FOR 251 00:07:58,766 --> 00:08:01,100 THEIR SEXUAL OUTLETS AND IT WAS 252 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:02,300 MALE ON MALE. 253 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:03,833 WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO TO THE 254 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:06,733 CHURCH DEALING WITH GAY PRIESTS 255 00:08:06,733 --> 00:08:07,266 IN >> I DON'T KNOW. 256 00:08:07,266 --> 00:08:10,500 YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IN HIS TERM, 257 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,933 THIS POPE SAID LIVE AND LET LIVE 258 00:08:12,933 --> 00:08:16,333 WITH REGARD TO GAY RELATIONSHIPS 259 00:08:16,333 --> 00:08:18,100 >> YES. 260 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:19,766 >> AND WHO AM I TO JUDGE. 261 00:08:19,766 --> 00:08:22,000 I MEAN, HE HAS SAID SOME VERY -- 262 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,200 IT MAY HAVE BEEN WHO AM I TO 263 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,966 JUDGE IT, NOT LIVE AND LET LIVE, 264 00:08:24,966 --> 00:08:26,800 BUT IT WAS SORT OF THE FIRST 265 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,600 OPEN DOOR, YOU KNOW, OPEN 266 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,333 STATEMENT MADE BY THE CHURCH 267 00:08:30,333 --> 00:08:31,433 WITH, AND IT WAS REALLY KIND OF 268 00:08:31,433 --> 00:08:34,933 AMAZING AND HOPEFUL, BECAUSE WE 269 00:08:34,933 --> 00:08:35,866 LIKE TO THINK IF WE'RE 270 00:08:35,866 --> 00:08:37,166 CHRISTIANS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 271 00:08:37,166 --> 00:08:38,433 EMBRACE EVERYONE, THAT WE'LL BE 272 00:08:38,433 --> 00:08:39,333 COMPASSION NATIONALITY, WE'LL BE 273 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:42,600 UNDERSTANDING, AND SO I THINK 274 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,800 THIS PARTICULAR POPE HAS 275 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,866 ACTUALLY MADE SOME MOVEMENT ON 276 00:08:44,866 --> 00:08:45,166 THAT. 277 00:08:45,166 --> 00:08:46,466 >> BUT HE'S MOVING SO SLOWLY. 278 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:48,933 THE POPE IS LIKE A WORLDWIDE 279 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:53,200 INSTITUTION, SO THEY'VE GIVEN US 280 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,566 MCCARRICK. 281 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:54,466 THEY COULD HAVE GIVEN US MANY 282 00:08:54,466 --> 00:08:56,566 MORE OF HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A 283 00:08:56,566 --> 00:08:58,200 STATEMENT BY GIVING US A HIGH 284 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,900 PRIEST FROM THE NATION'S CAPITOL 285 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,000 BUT ONE WONDERS WHETHER THE 286 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,633 CHURCH CAN BREAK ITS VERY SLOW 287 00:09:08,633 --> 00:09:11,433 WAY TO DEAL WITH EVERYTHING, 288 00:09:11,433 --> 00:09:12,400 WHETHER IT'S A PROBLEM OR NOT. 289 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,100 >> ALL RIGHT. 290 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:14,533 LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. 291 00:09:14,533 --> 00:09:21,366 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER. 292 00:09:21,366 --> 00:09:22,100 FROM THE FUTURE OF THE CATHOLIC 293 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:22,800 CHURCH TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH 294 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,333 AND A HORRIFIC, LITTLE-KNOWN 295 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:28,466 ASPECT OF FIRST WAVE SUFFRAGIST 296 00:09:28,466 --> 00:09:30,366 HISTORY: THE RACISM WHITE WOMEN 297 00:09:30,366 --> 00:09:31,866 EXHIBITED TOWARD THEIR BLACK 298 00:09:31,866 --> 00:09:32,966 COUNTERPARTS IN THE FIGHT FOR 299 00:09:32,966 --> 00:09:36,366 WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE. 300 00:09:36,366 --> 00:09:39,100 CALL IT EXPLICIT INSENSITIVITY 301 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:39,833 BY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN 302 00:09:39,833 --> 00:09:41,500 BETTER. 303 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,800 CALL IT SUSAN B. ANTHONY, 304 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,100 ELIZABETH CADY STANTON AND OTHER 305 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:48,266 WHITE SUFFRAGISTS ACTING AS 306 00:09:48,266 --> 00:09:49,200 PRODUCTS OF THEIR OWN RACIST 307 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,800 TIMES. 308 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,633 BUT BLACK SUFFRAGISTS WHO FOUGHT 309 00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:55,466 EQUALLY HARD FOR WOMEN'S RIGHT 310 00:09:55,466 --> 00:09:56,500 TO VOTE SUFFERED THE 311 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:59,133 DEMORALIZING EFFECT OF RACISM 312 00:09:59,133 --> 00:09:59,866 FROM THE WHITE WOMEN RUNNING THE 313 00:09:59,866 --> 00:10:00,800 MOVEMENT. 314 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,966 FOR ONE, BLACK WOMEN HAD TO FORM 315 00:10:02,966 --> 00:10:05,800 THEIR OWN SUFFRAGE LEAGUE, WHICH 316 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,900 MARCHED AT THE BACK OF PARADES 317 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:09,366 ORGANIZED TO PRESS FOR 318 00:10:09,366 --> 00:10:11,166 RATIFICATION OF THE 19TH 319 00:10:11,166 --> 00:10:13,066 AMENDMENT INSTEAD OF WITH THEIR 320 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:14,433 STATE DELEGATIONS AS DID WHITE 321 00:10:14,433 --> 00:10:16,866 SUFFRAGISTS. 322 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:18,533 WHEN THE BLACK SUFFRAGIST AND 323 00:10:18,533 --> 00:10:20,700 CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER MARY CHURCH 324 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,500 TERRELL PETITIONED HER WHITE 325 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:25,166 SISTERS FOR HELP, THEY RESPONDED 326 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:27,133 THAT THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF 327 00:10:27,133 --> 00:10:29,400 BLACK WOMEN WAS A RACE PROBLEM, 328 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,200 NOT A GENDER PROBLEM, AND BEYOND 329 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,400 THE MOVEMENT'S WRIT. 330 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,133 >> WHEN I LOCK AT THE LEADERSHIP 331 00:10:36,133 --> 00:10:39,500 OF THE WOMEN'S MARCH, WHICH IS 332 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,266 ACTUALLY AT LEAST THE YOUNG 333 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:44,466 WOMEN WHO ARE INSTATED BY THE 334 00:10:44,466 --> 00:10:45,566 OLDER PILL WHO ACTUALLY STARTED 335 00:10:45,566 --> 00:10:47,100 THE MARCH IN THE FIRST PLACE, 336 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:49,000 BUT THE YOUNG WOMEN ARE MORE OF 337 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,433 COLOR THAN WHITE. 338 00:10:50,433 --> 00:10:52,200 AND THEN I THINK ABOUT THIS 339 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,100 EXAMPLE IN HISTORY. 340 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:57,500 DO WHITE FEMINISTS STILL OWE 341 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:58,266 BLACK FEMINISTS SOMETHING? 342 00:10:58,266 --> 00:11:01,800 WHATEVER THAT MAY BE FOR THE 343 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,333 SINS OF THEIR GREAT GRANDMOTHERS 344 00:11:04,333 --> 00:11:06,100 >> NO, NO. 345 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:06,433 NO, NO. 346 00:11:06,433 --> 00:11:08,666 NO DEBTS HERE. 347 00:11:08,666 --> 00:11:12,533 WHAT THESE WOMEN WERE QUOTING IS 348 00:11:12,533 --> 00:11:15,733 THE RACISM OF THEIR TIME. 349 00:11:15,733 --> 00:11:23,700 BEAR IN MIND THAT MANY OF THESE 350 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:24,366 SUFFREGETTE LEADER HAD BEEN 351 00:11:24,366 --> 00:11:25,200 LEADERS IN THE ABOLITION 352 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,266 MOVEMENT. 353 00:11:26,266 --> 00:11:28,000 THE FIRST ABOLITIONISTS WERE 354 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,366 WHITE WOMEN. 355 00:11:29,366 --> 00:11:33,300 THEN WHEN WE GOT AS LATE AS THE 356 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:35,566 20TH CENTURY AND STILL NO 357 00:11:35,566 --> 00:11:39,233 MOVEMENT ON HALF THE POPULATION, 358 00:11:39,233 --> 00:11:41,066 THEY TOOK A VERY STRATEGIC AND 359 00:11:41,066 --> 00:11:44,133 UNPRINCIPLED POSITION, AND ONE 360 00:11:44,133 --> 00:11:44,500 WONDERS -- 361 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:45,400 >> WHICH, SPELL IT OUT. 362 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,166 >> AND THEN UNPRINCIPLED 363 00:11:46,166 --> 00:11:51,466 POSITION WAS, LIKE, ALL OF THIS, 364 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:53,633 ALL OF THIS DESEGREGATION THAT 365 00:11:53,633 --> 00:11:55,266 WE'VE BEEN FOR TAKES A BACK SEAT 366 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:56,633 , AND I MEAN LITERALLY A 367 00:11:56,633 --> 00:11:58,033 BACK SEAT. 368 00:11:58,033 --> 00:12:00,000 WE WAITED TOO LONG, AND 369 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,200 ESSENTIALLY, THEY MADE A 370 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,133 STRATEGIC POSITION. 371 00:12:03,133 --> 00:12:05,133 A STRATEGIC POSITION SURROUNDED 372 00:12:05,133 --> 00:12:08,466 BY AVERAGE AMERICAN PHILOSOPHY 373 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:09,200 THAT SAID BLACKS WERE INFERIOR 374 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,300 ANYWAY. 375 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:12,333 WE'VE BEEN OUT HERE AND THEY'VE 376 00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:15,233 TAKEN CARE OF EVERYBODY BUT US. 377 00:12:15,233 --> 00:12:17,266 WE ARE THE MAJORITY AND WE ARE 378 00:12:17,266 --> 00:12:19,633 CLAIMING OUR RIGHTS. 379 00:12:19,633 --> 00:12:26,400 AND IN DOING SO, THEY LOST THE 380 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,666 RESPECT OF THE BLACK SUFFRAGETTE 381 00:12:28,666 --> 00:12:30,066 S AND WHAT IT TAKES 382 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:33,066 IT DO TWO THING AT ONE TIME. 383 00:12:33,066 --> 00:12:35,566 AND THAT'S WHAT THE WOMEN WERE 384 00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:36,300 -- THOUGHT THEY COULD NOT 385 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:39,466 DO, DEAL WITH RACISM AND SEXISM 386 00:12:39,466 --> 00:12:39,966 AT THE SAME TIME. 387 00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:40,766 >> WOULD THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED, DO 388 00:12:40,766 --> 00:12:44,466 YOU THINK, IF THEY TRIED TO DO 389 00:12:44,466 --> 00:12:47,866 BOTH BACK IN THE 19-TEENS? 390 00:12:47,866 --> 00:12:49,200 >> I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A 391 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,700 RISK THEY'D HAVE HAD TO TAKE, 392 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:52,766 AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF 393 00:12:52,766 --> 00:12:53,466 A MOVEMENT TONIGHT TRYING TO 394 00:12:53,466 --> 00:12:55,933 MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY AND TRYING 395 00:12:55,933 --> 00:12:58,233 TO -- YOU'RE TIRED OF WAITING, 396 00:12:58,233 --> 00:12:59,500 THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE 397 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,166 THEY HAD THE TIME AND SPACE TO 398 00:13:01,166 --> 00:13:02,866 TRY TO WORK OUT ALL THE DETAILS 399 00:13:02,866 --> 00:13:04,866 OF THAT, BUT I TELL YOU THIS. 400 00:13:04,866 --> 00:13:08,933 I SALUTE THE BLACK WOMEN FOR 401 00:13:08,933 --> 00:13:10,400 HAVING THE PERSISTENCE AND THE 402 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,133 DEDICATION TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT 403 00:13:13,133 --> 00:13:13,833 NOT ONLY FOR THEIR RIGHTS, BUT 404 00:13:13,833 --> 00:13:15,600 THEIR FAMILY'S RIGHTS. 405 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,633 >> YOU KNOW, JILL DAVORE WROTE A 406 00:13:19,633 --> 00:13:21,100 GREAT BOOK CALLED THESE TRUTHS 407 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,433 ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY THROUGH 408 00:13:22,433 --> 00:13:24,300 THE LENS OF THE PROMISES OF OUR 409 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:25,800 FOUNDERS. 410 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,966 WE HOLD THESE TRUTH, AND THOSE 411 00:13:28,966 --> 00:13:30,766 TRUTHS ARE LIBERTY, EQUALITY, 412 00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:32,400 ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY 413 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,466 WERE NOT DELIVERING AT ALL IN A 414 00:13:34,466 --> 00:13:37,266 SOCIETY THAT HAD RACISM TONIGHT 415 00:13:37,266 --> 00:13:38,766 DIDN'T ALLOW WOMEN BASIC RIGHTS. 416 00:13:38,766 --> 00:13:42,433 IN THE 1960S, THERE IS A 417 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:44,766 CONGRESSMAN WHO WAS TRYING TO 418 00:13:44,766 --> 00:13:45,433 KILL THE CIVIL RIGHTS BILL. 419 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:48,433 HE WAS A JIM CROW DEMOCRAT FROM 420 00:13:48,433 --> 00:13:48,800 VIRGINIA. 421 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,833 AND HE SAID I KNOW WHAT I'LL DO. 422 00:13:50,833 --> 00:13:51,766 I'LL PUT WOMEN IN THERE. 423 00:13:51,766 --> 00:13:54,733 AND SO HE PUT WOMEN IN THE BILL 424 00:13:54,733 --> 00:13:56,033 AND THE ONLY REASON THE CIVIL 425 00:13:56,033 --> 00:13:58,433 RIGHTS BILL IN THE 60S HAD 426 00:13:58,433 --> 00:14:00,266 COVERED WOMEN IS BECAUSE THEY 427 00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:01,800 THOUGHT IT WAS A POISON PILL. 428 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,166 SO WHAT'S INTERESTING IS IN THIS 429 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:09,666 TENSION, HIS NAME WAS 430 00:14:09,666 --> 00:14:10,300 CONGRESSMAN HOWARD SMITH. 431 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:10,933 AND HE WAS IN THE EIGHTH 432 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:13,166 DISTRICT WHERE MY HUSBAND NOW 433 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:13,633 SERVES. 434 00:14:13,633 --> 00:14:14,666 HIS SON ACTUALLY WROTE US A 435 00:14:14,666 --> 00:14:17,100 LETTER AND TOLD US ABOUT THIS. 436 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,733 I SAID, HE'S OFTEN REFERRED TO 437 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:20,566 WITH US A GREAT FEMINIST FOR 438 00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:21,200 HAVING INCLUDED WOMEN, BUT 439 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,200 HERE'S THE STORY. 440 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,433 AND JILL LAPORE HAS IT IN HER 441 00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:25,266 BOOK, TOO. 442 00:14:25,266 --> 00:14:27,933 >> IT'S SAD TO LOOK BACK AT THIS 443 00:14:27,933 --> 00:14:28,766 , KIND OF THE STRATEGIC 444 00:14:28,766 --> 00:14:29,766 DECISION THAT WERE MADE, YOU 445 00:14:29,766 --> 00:14:33,033 KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE WILLING TO 446 00:14:33,033 --> 00:14:33,733 ACCEPT RACISM JUST BECAUSE YOU 447 00:14:33,733 --> 00:14:35,666 WANT TO GET WOMEN THE VOTE SO 448 00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:37,033 THAT THEN YOU CAN END TEMPERANCE 449 00:14:37,033 --> 00:14:39,900 THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE STR 450 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:41,266 ATEGERY BEING. 451 00:14:41,266 --> 00:14:44,000 AGAIN, PULL BACK TO 2018, 2019, 452 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,900 AND I LOOK AT THE WOMEN'S MARCH 453 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:46,333 TODAY. 454 00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:47,566 I SEE, UNFORTUNATELY, 455 00:14:47,566 --> 00:14:49,600 ANTISEMITISM AMONG THE LEADERS. 456 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,633 AND WHILE WE HAVE A MORE DIVERSE 457 00:14:51,633 --> 00:14:55,400 WOMEN'S LEADER -- MOVEMENT IN 458 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,100 SEE PEOPLE'S PREJUDICES STILL 459 00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:56,900 COME OUT. 460 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:59,033 >> THAT ANTISEMITISM IS ONE 461 00:14:59,033 --> 00:14:59,366 PERSON. 462 00:14:59,366 --> 00:14:59,766 >> TWO. 463 00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,100 >> TWO? 464 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:06,966 >> BEFORE THIS, -- 465 00:15:06,966 --> 00:15:07,833 >> THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE 466 00:15:07,833 --> 00:15:09,166 LEADERS OF THIS MOVEMENT. 467 00:15:09,166 --> 00:15:10,466 IN FACT, THIS MOVEMENT, WE NEVER 468 00:15:10,466 --> 00:15:12,200 HEARD THE NAMES OF THESE PEOPLE. 469 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,566 HAD IT BEEN THE ONES WHO STEPPED 470 00:15:14,566 --> 00:15:15,633 UP AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE 471 00:15:15,633 --> 00:15:16,766 STEPPED UP AGAINST IT. 472 00:15:16,766 --> 00:15:19,900 WHAT HAPPENED WHEN A NEW WOMEN'S 473 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:21,700 MARCH WAS CALLED A MONTH OR SO 474 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:22,733 AGO, THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT DOCK 475 00:15:22,733 --> 00:15:23,966 THIS NATIONALLY. 476 00:15:23,966 --> 00:15:25,333 WE'RE DOING THIS IN OUR STATES 477 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:27,366 SO WE ARE NOT CONTAMINATED WITH 478 00:15:27,366 --> 00:15:28,033 THIS ANTISEMITISM. 479 00:15:28,033 --> 00:15:30,200 >> WHICH FANTASTIC, DELEGATE 480 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,533 NORTON. 481 00:15:30,533 --> 00:15:31,800 I'M GLAD AT THE STATED LEVEL 482 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,633 PEOPLE PUSH BACK AGAINST THE 483 00:15:32,633 --> 00:15:33,933 ANTISEMITISM. 484 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:35,033 I WHAT'S GOING TO CONTEST THERE 485 00:15:35,033 --> 00:15:37,433 ISN'T THAT AMONG THE LEADERSHIP. 486 00:15:37,433 --> 00:15:39,600 >> AND IT'S TWO OUT OF FIVE. 487 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,966 THOUGHT TWO OUT OUT OF 488 00:15:42,966 --> 00:15:43,366 100 MILLION. 489 00:15:43,366 --> 00:15:45,166 >> BUT THIS IS NOT LIKE THE 490 00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:46,400 CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHERE YOU 491 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,533 REALLY DID HAVE PEOPLE WHO WERE 492 00:15:48,533 --> 00:15:50,033 NOMINATED AND BECAME YOUR 493 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:50,366 LEADERS. 494 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:51,033 THESE ARE FIVE WOMEN THAT 495 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:51,733 STEPPED UP. 496 00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:53,300 THERE'S THIS THING THAT SPREAD 497 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:53,833 ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 498 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:55,333 IF IT I WERE TO ASK YOU TO NAME 499 00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:56,266 EVEN ONE OF THOSE LEADERS, YOU 500 00:15:56,266 --> 00:15:57,433 PROBABLY COULDN'T, BECAUSE 501 00:15:57,433 --> 00:15:59,300 NOBODY EVER HEARD OF THEM. 502 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,333 IT'S TRUE THEY STARTED EVERY 503 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,266 OTHER GROUP OF WOMEN, WOMEN 504 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:04,600 ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO WANT TO DO 505 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,900 EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. 506 00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:06,766 SO IT KIND OF -- 507 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:08,733 >> AND WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT IT, 508 00:16:08,733 --> 00:16:09,400 IT'S A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT. 509 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,233 >> WHICH IS FANTASTIC. 510 00:16:10,233 --> 00:16:12,100 MY LARGER POINT IS THAT 511 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:13,733 THROUGHOUT HISTORY, PREJUDICE IS 512 00:16:13,733 --> 00:16:17,133 AN INDIVIDUAL'S WILLS WILL 513 00:16:17,133 --> 00:16:17,500 BUBBLE UP. 514 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:18,233 IN 100 YEARS PEOPLE WILL LOOK 515 00:16:18,233 --> 00:16:20,033 BACK NOW AT THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT 516 00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:21,200 AND POINTED THAT OUT. 517 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,766 HOPEFULLY WE'RE ADDRESSING IT, 518 00:16:22,766 --> 00:16:24,166 DEALING WITH IT, ASK THEN PUSH 519 00:16:24,166 --> 00:16:25,333 IT ASIDE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, 520 00:16:25,333 --> 00:16:26,833 LOOKING BACK AND BEING THE SAME 521 00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:30,466 PEOPLE WE WERE 100 YEARS AGO. 522 00:16:30,466 --> 00:16:31,233 >> ALL RIGHT. 523 00:16:31,233 --> 00:16:32,566 BEHIND THE HEADLINE. 524 00:16:32,566 --> 00:16:34,233 WE CONTINUE OUR COVERAGE OF 525 00:16:34,233 --> 00:16:41,300 BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 526 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:42,133 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WE 527 00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:42,833 CONTINUE OUR COVERAGE OF BLACK 528 00:16:42,833 --> 00:16:43,266 HISTORY MONTH. 529 00:16:43,266 --> 00:16:43,866 WE INTERVIEWED TWO VERY 530 00:16:43,866 --> 00:16:44,500 PROMINENT AFRICAN AMERICAN 531 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:45,166 FEMALE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, 532 00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:45,866 RBARA LEE AND KAREN BASS, WHO 533 00:16:45,866 --> 00:16:46,500 VE SECURED THEIR OWN SPOTS IN 534 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:47,966 E HISTORY BOOKS. 535 00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:49,300 >> AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY 536 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:51,500 MONTH IS ALWAYS A VERY POSITIVE 537 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:52,233 THING, AND IT'S IMPORTANT, 538 00:16:52,233 --> 00:16:54,033 BECAUSE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO 539 00:16:54,033 --> 00:16:56,000 LIFT UP THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT 540 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,400 BLACK AMERICANS HAVE MADE TO 541 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:58,833 U.S. HISTORY. 542 00:16:58,833 --> 00:17:00,433 I DO LONG FOR THE DAY WHEN IT'S 543 00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:01,700 NOT REALLY NEEDED, BECAUSE 544 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:04,500 AFRICAN-AMERICANS WOULD BE 545 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:05,200 COMPLETELY INCORPORATED INTO 546 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,466 U.S. HISTORY, BUT WE HAVEN'T 547 00:17:06,466 --> 00:17:07,700 ACHIEVED THAT DAY YET. 548 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:09,733 >> REPRESENTATIVE BASS CHAIRS 549 00:17:09,733 --> 00:17:13,466 THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS. 550 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:14,100 BASS BELIEVES THERE'S NO 551 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:14,800 AMERICAN HISTORY WITHOUT BLACK 552 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,700 HISTORY AND SHE SEES IT AS A 553 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:18,866 LEVEL HISTORY WITH NOTABLES SUCH 554 00:17:18,866 --> 00:17:20,500 AS STACY ABRAMS WE CAN BECOMING 555 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:22,333 THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN 556 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,100 TO DELIVER THE OFFICIAL RESPONSE 557 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:28,466 TO THE STATE OF THE UNION 558 00:17:28,466 --> 00:17:29,533 ADDRESS, WE ALSO POINTS TO 559 00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:31,833 PERSONAL SHEROS. 560 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:32,866 >> MY ROLE MODELS? 561 00:17:32,866 --> 00:17:33,333 OH MANY PEOPLE. 562 00:17:33,333 --> 00:17:35,000 FOR EXAMPLE, THE WOMAN WHO WAS 563 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,700 IN CONGRESS BEFORE ME, 564 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:38,666 CONGRESSWOMAN DIANE WATSON IS 565 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:40,266 ABSOLUTELY A ROLE MODEL. 566 00:17:40,266 --> 00:17:42,633 SHE IS A PERSON THAT RECRUITED 567 00:17:42,633 --> 00:17:44,100 ME TO RUN FOR OFFICE THE FIRST 568 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,300 TIME AND ALSO TO RUN FOR HER 569 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,233 SIGHT AND SHE DECIDED TO RETIRE. 570 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:50,566 AND I CALL ON HER RIGHT AWAY 571 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:52,100 BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S A 572 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:55,300 WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF A WOMAN 573 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:57,500 REACHING BACK TO A YOUNGER WOMAN 574 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:58,700 AND SAYING, COME ONBOARD. 575 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:01,866 ONE THAT I ALWAYS LOOK TO IS 576 00:18:01,866 --> 00:18:03,700 HARRIET TUBMAN, AN ENCLAVED 577 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:07,333 WOMAN WHO DEVOTED HER LIFE TO 578 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:09,466 INDUSTRYING ON AFRICANS WHO WERE 579 00:18:09,466 --> 00:18:09,900 ENSLAVED. 580 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:11,266 AND SHE WAS A SOLDIER. 581 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:13,566 AND I'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATE HER 582 00:18:13,566 --> 00:18:16,233 LEADERSHIP ROLE IN HISTORY. 583 00:18:16,233 --> 00:18:17,500 >> BASS MADE HISTORY HERSELF AS 584 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:20,400 A LEADER BREAKING BARRIERS. 585 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,333 >> WHEN I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE 586 00:18:22,333 --> 00:18:23,566 , MY LAST TERM I WAS 587 00:18:23,566 --> 00:18:25,466 ELECTED SPEAKER, AND I REMEMBER 588 00:18:25,466 --> 00:18:27,433 THAT RACE AND IT WAS VERY 589 00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:29,000 EXCITING, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS 590 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,666 THAT WAS THE MOST EXCITING WAS 591 00:18:30,666 --> 00:18:32,166 WHEN THEY DID THE RESEARCH AND 592 00:18:32,166 --> 00:18:34,000 FOUND THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN AN 593 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,666 AFRICAN-AMERICAN SPEAKER 594 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:36,966 ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. 595 00:18:36,966 --> 00:18:39,133 AND SO MY ELECTION TO THE 596 00:18:39,133 --> 00:18:40,933 SPEAKERSHIP IN CALIFORNIA WAS 597 00:18:40,933 --> 00:18:41,666 THE FIRST TIME AN 598 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:43,633 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN HAD BEEN 599 00:18:43,633 --> 00:18:45,000 ELECTED SPEAKER OF ANY 600 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,500 LEGISLATIVE BODY. 601 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,000 >> REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA LEE, 602 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,133 FORMER CHAIR OF THE 603 00:18:49,133 --> 00:18:50,500 CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS, 604 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:51,266 CREDITS HER POLITICAL CAREER TO 605 00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:54,466 A PROMINENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN 606 00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:56,733 HISTORIC FIGURE. 607 00:18:56,733 --> 00:18:58,466 >> MY ENTREE UNTIL POLITICS 608 00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:01,100 REALLY WAS START. 609 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:03,866 FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN, WOMAN 610 00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:06,433 ELECTED TO CONGRESS WHO ALSO RAN 611 00:19:06,433 --> 00:19:07,633 FOR PRESIDENT, AND THAT WAS 612 00:19:07,633 --> 00:19:10,166 CONGRESSWOMAN SHIRLEY CHISOLM. 613 00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:12,233 AND SHE HE KNOW SCOURGED ME TO 614 00:19:12,233 --> 00:19:13,333 RUN, ENCOURAGED MY TO REGISTER 615 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:14,500 TO VOTE, FIRST OF ALL, AND GET 616 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:16,300 INVOLVED IN POLITICS. 617 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:17,800 AND FAST FORWARD TO WHEN I WAS 618 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,733 ELECTED IN 1998. 619 00:19:19,733 --> 00:19:22,233 I WAS THE 20TH AFRICAN-AMERICAN 620 00:19:22,233 --> 00:19:24,900 WOMEN ONLY SINCE 1789 TO HAVE 621 00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:26,933 BEEN ELECTED TO THE HOUSE OF 622 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:27,400 REPRESENTATIVES. 623 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,933 >> LEE ALSO SEES HER MOTHER AS A 624 00:19:28,933 --> 00:19:31,100 ROLE MODEL AND A WOMAN WORTHY OF 625 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,066 NOTE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS. 626 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:34,966 >> MY MOTHER, MY LATE MOTHER, 627 00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:36,800 SHE WAS A PHENOMENAL WOMAN. 628 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,466 SHE BROKE MANY GLASS CEILINGS. 629 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:40,400 SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST 12 630 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,833 STUDENTS TO INTEGRATE THE 631 00:19:41,833 --> 00:19:44,466 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT EL PASO. 632 00:19:44,466 --> 00:19:46,433 SHE WAS I THINK THE FIRST 633 00:19:46,433 --> 00:19:48,066 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN CIVILIAN 634 00:19:48,066 --> 00:19:50,100 WHO WORKED AT FORT BLISS, AND 635 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,633 SHE CALLED MARY MCLEOD BETHUNE 636 00:19:52,633 --> 00:19:55,333 DOWN TO HER UNIVERSITY AT 1 637 00:19:55,333 --> 00:19:56,000 POINT AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY 638 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,233 BECAUSE OF AN ISSUE OF ONE WOMAN 639 00:19:57,233 --> 00:19:59,366 COULDN'T JOIN THE SORORITY 640 00:19:59,366 --> 00:20:02,800 BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE COLOR ISSUE 641 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,066 AND MY MOTHER SAID I'M NOT GOING 642 00:20:04,066 --> 00:20:05,533 TO JOIN IF THEY CAN'T JOIN. 643 00:20:05,533 --> 00:20:07,500 SO MARY McLEOD BETHUNE CAME 644 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,100 DOWN AND BROKE THAT UP. 645 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:10,066 >> LEE BELIEVES IT'S CRITICAL TO 646 00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:11,166 TELL THE HISTORY OF 647 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:11,866 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN IN THE 648 00:20:11,866 --> 00:20:12,133 U.S. 649 00:20:12,133 --> 00:20:19,066 >> YOU LOOK AT FANNY LUHAMER AND 650 00:20:19,066 --> 00:20:20,666 SOJOURNER TRUTH, IDA B WELLS AND 651 00:20:20,666 --> 00:20:21,800 DOROTHY HEIGHTS AND SHIRLEY 652 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,566 CHISOLM AND ALL THE WOMEN WHO 653 00:20:22,566 --> 00:20:24,266 CAME BEFORE US. 654 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:26,400 WHAT THEY DID JUST TO PAVE THE 655 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,666 WAY. 656 00:20:26,666 --> 00:20:28,500 THEY STRUGGLE AND I KNEW MANY OF 657 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:29,566 THEM. 658 00:20:29,566 --> 00:20:31,366 AND THEY HAD A HARD TIME, BUT 659 00:20:31,366 --> 00:20:33,266 THEY DIDN'T LOOK BACK, AND SHE 660 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:33,700 KEPT GOING. 661 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,433 AND I THINK THE INSPIRATION THAT 662 00:20:36,433 --> 00:20:38,600 I GET FROM THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE 663 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,500 ME AND THE GRATITUDE I HAVE FOR 664 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,333 THEM KEEPS ME HUMBLE IN ONE 665 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:45,533 RESPECT, BECAUSE AS HARD AS IT'S 666 00:20:45,533 --> 00:20:50,700 BEEN FOR MYSELF, I MEAN, IN NO 667 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:52,233 WAY DID I EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY 668 00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:52,633 EXPERIENCED. 669 00:20:52,633 --> 00:20:54,300 >> LEE SAYS THIS HISTORY IS 670 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,000 EMPOWERING FOR YOUNG 671 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,266 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN. 672 00:20:57,266 --> 00:20:58,800 SHE SHARES AT HIS WITH FRESHMAN 673 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,700 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO CALL HER 674 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:02,666 THEIR BIG SISTER SUCH AS IONA 675 00:21:02,666 --> 00:21:04,066 PRESLEY OF MASSACHUSETTS. 676 00:21:04,066 --> 00:21:08,433 >> I WAS SHOWING IONA PRESLEY A 677 00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:11,333 PHOTO OF MYSELF AND THE 678 00:21:11,333 --> 00:21:14,000 HONORABLE SHIRLEY CHISOLM IN THE 679 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,333 EARLY NINETIES WHEN SHIRLEY 680 00:21:15,333 --> 00:21:17,100 CHISOLM CAME OUT TO HELP ME IN 681 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,166 MY FIRST ELECTION FOR THE 682 00:21:18,166 --> 00:21:19,233 ASSEMBLY. 683 00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:22,600 IONA IS SO PROUD AND HAPPY THAT 684 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,833 SHE HAS SHIRLEY CHISOLM'S OFFICE 685 00:21:23,833 --> 00:21:25,233 I HAD A CHANCE TO SHARE THAT 686 00:21:25,233 --> 00:21:27,700 WITH I, ON NA TO LET HER KNOW 687 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:30,033 THAT I KNOW WHAT SHE FEELS AND 688 00:21:30,033 --> 00:21:31,566 HOW SHE'S FEELING AND THE 689 00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:33,533 INVASION THAT SHE HAS RECEIVED 690 00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:36,566 FROM JUST BEING IN SHIRLEY 691 00:21:36,566 --> 00:21:37,066 CHISOLM'S OFFICE. 692 00:21:37,066 --> 00:21:39,033 >> SO PATRICE, THE WOMEN, THE 693 00:21:39,033 --> 00:21:40,133 BLACK WOMEN YOU KNOW WHO ARE 694 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:41,600 INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND MAKING 695 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,866 HISTORY, ARE THEY GETTING ENOUGH 696 00:21:43,866 --> 00:21:46,200 NATIONAL ATTENTION, DO YOU THINK 697 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,766 >> I THINK SO. 698 00:21:46,766 --> 00:21:48,566 I MEAN, MY HERO, ONE OF THEM, IS 699 00:21:48,566 --> 00:21:49,633 DOCTOR CONDOLEZZA RICE AND 700 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:51,133 EVERYBODY WANTS HER TO RUN FOR 701 00:21:51,133 --> 00:21:54,233 PRESIDENT EVERY ELECTION CYCLE. 702 00:21:54,233 --> 00:21:56,800 AND SO I THINK THE POINT MADE 703 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,966 THAT WE SHOULDN'T JUST HAVE ONE 704 00:21:57,966 --> 00:21:58,766 MONTH DEAD I COULD I HAD TO 705 00:21:58,766 --> 00:22:01,600 LEARNING ABOUT OUR BLACK SHEROS 706 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,933 OR BLACK HEROS IN GENERAL. 707 00:22:02,933 --> 00:22:05,166 IT SHOULD BE WOVEN THROUGHOUT 708 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:06,066 TEACHING AND CIVICS AND U.S. 709 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:06,766 HISTORY. 710 00:22:06,766 --> 00:22:08,266 UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT. 711 00:22:08,266 --> 00:22:10,600 >> ISN'T THE PURPOSE OF BLACK 712 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,566 HISTORY TO GET IT WRITTEN, TO 713 00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:14,666 BLACK HISTORY MONTH, I MEAN, TO 714 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:17,366 REMIND PEOPLE TO USE A PERIOD IN 715 00:22:17,366 --> 00:22:19,600 TIME EVERY YEAR TO REMIND PEOPLE 716 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,133 AND TO HOPE ONE DAY THAT THE 717 00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:23,633 BARBARA LEES. 718 00:22:23,633 --> 00:22:26,733 WORLD ARE WRITTEN AND THE 719 00:22:26,733 --> 00:22:27,366 CONGRESSWOMAN NORTONS ARE 720 00:22:27,366 --> 00:22:29,333 WRITTEN INTO HISTORY, AS WOMEN 721 00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:30,800 THEY SHOULD BE IT >> I 722 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,600 DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED 723 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,333 FOR THE MONTH AND I AGREE WITH 724 00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:35,866 THE MONTH. 725 00:22:35,866 --> 00:22:36,566 I CERTAINLY HIGHLIGHT PEOPLE 726 00:22:36,566 --> 00:22:38,100 LIKE SARA BOONE, WHO WAS AN I 727 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:39,400 KNOW VENTER IN THE EARLY 1900S. 728 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,233 SHE CREATE THE IRONING BOARD AND 729 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:42,633 A LOT OF HOUSEHOLD ITEMS. 730 00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:43,333 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE 731 00:22:43,333 --> 00:22:43,633 FOLKS. 732 00:22:43,633 --> 00:22:44,766 >> OR THE WOMEN WHO CODED. 733 00:22:44,766 --> 00:22:45,766 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 734 00:22:45,766 --> 00:22:46,733 THERE YOU GO. 735 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:47,066 EXACTLY. 736 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:50,033 THE WOMEN WHO SENT THE FIRST 737 00:22:50,033 --> 00:22:51,766 SPACESHIP, U.S. SHIP INTO SPACE. 738 00:22:51,766 --> 00:22:52,933 THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN AND BE 739 00:22:52,933 --> 00:22:54,300 WEAVE HE KNOW INTO OUR U.S. 740 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:54,766 CIVICS HISTORY. 741 00:22:54,766 --> 00:22:57,766 >> I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEATURED 742 00:22:57,766 --> 00:22:58,400 BLACK HISTORY MONTH WOMEN. 743 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,033 BY THE WAY, THE GROWTH IN WOMEN 744 00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:00,933 IN THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK 745 00:23:00,933 --> 00:23:02,866 CAUCUS, AND BOTH OF THESE WOMEN 746 00:23:02,866 --> 00:23:05,733 HAD BEEN CHAIRS OF OUR CAUCUS. 747 00:23:05,733 --> 00:23:08,466 THE GROWTH OF WOMEN AMONG 748 00:23:08,466 --> 00:23:10,700 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN -- SORRY, 749 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:13,033 AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS SAYS 750 00:23:13,033 --> 00:23:15,600 EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW 751 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,233 AFRICAN-AMERICANS PERCEIVE 752 00:23:16,233 --> 00:23:20,066 LEADERS AND LEADERSHIP. 753 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:20,800 AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS 754 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,033 BEEN ON THE FOR FRONT OF 755 00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:25,666 UNDERSTANDING WHAT WOMEN CAN DO 756 00:23:25,666 --> 00:23:28,300 AND THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER 757 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:32,500 OF WOMEN, BLACK WOMEN WHO 758 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,333 REPRESENT DISTRICTS IS A 759 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:36,366 CONTINUATION OF THAT FAITH IN 760 00:23:36,366 --> 00:23:37,700 WHAT WOMEN CAN DO. 761 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:40,566 >> DO YOU THINK WOMEN, BLACK 762 00:23:40,566 --> 00:23:42,266 WOMEN, CONSERVATIVE BLACK WOMEN 763 00:23:42,266 --> 00:23:44,033 HAVE GOTTEN ENOUGH CREDIT AND 764 00:23:44,033 --> 00:23:47,000 ATTENTION IN THE HISTORY BOOKS? 765 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,366 >> I THINK MORE ATTENTION COULD 766 00:23:48,366 --> 00:23:50,333 BE GIVEN THERE. 767 00:23:50,333 --> 00:23:52,600 I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT K PULSE 768 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,466 JAMES AND TAKING THE HELMET AT 769 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:57,600 THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION AND HER 770 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,300 POSITION THERE IS -- IT 771 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:02,066 RESONATES BACK OUT TO ALL OF 772 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:05,133 AMERICA IN TERMS OF AN IMAGE OF 773 00:24:05,133 --> 00:24:08,166 A PERSON WHO CAN LEAD, A PERSON 774 00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:09,433 WITH, YOU KNOW, A STELLAR 775 00:24:09,433 --> 00:24:11,233 BACKGROUND ACROSS MULTIPLE 776 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:13,066 SECTORS WHOSE DYNAMIC AND WHO 777 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:14,066 HAS HAD AN IMPACT. 778 00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:19,166 SO AS YOU SAID, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW IN HISTORY WHERE THESE 779 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,400 THINGS ARE BEING WOVEN IN, MORE 780 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,300 INTO THE DAILY NEWS CYCLE AND 781 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:26,833 JUST THE DAY-TO-DAY CONVERSATION 782 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:28,400 ABOUT WHO'S DOING WHAT. 783 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,333 I JUST SAY WE NEED MORE WOMEN. 784 00:24:30,333 --> 00:24:32,200 THOSE WHO WRITE HISTORY ARE THE 785 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,800 WINNERS, AND WE'VE GOT TO WIN 786 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,266 MORE ELECTIONS. 787 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:37,133 >> WELL, BUT GIVEN HOW LONG -- I 788 00:24:37,133 --> 00:24:38,700 MEAN, SHIRLEY CHISOLM RUNNING 789 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,066 FOR PRESIDENT WAS MORE THAN 50 790 00:24:40,066 --> 00:24:42,100 YEARS AGO NOW. 791 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,300 HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE 792 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:46,000 UNTIL HER ACHIEVEMENTS ARE 793 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,700 WRITTEN IN THROUGH ALL OF THE 794 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:48,433 AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY BOOKS? 795 00:24:48,433 --> 00:24:49,366 >> RIGHT. 796 00:24:49,366 --> 00:24:51,333 WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A 797 00:24:51,333 --> 00:24:51,733 BEAUTIFUL -- 798 00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:53,900 >> SORRY, WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 799 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:57,400 WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. 800 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,066 THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION. 801 00:24:58,066 --> 00:24:58,800 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AND 802 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,300 VISIT OUR WEBSITE, 803 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:03,333 PBS.ORG/TOTHECONTRAY. 804 00:25:03,333 --> 00:25:04,033 WHETHER YOU AGREE OR THINK, TO 805 00:25:04,033 --> 00:25:21,433 THE CONTRARY, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. 806 00:25:21,433 --> 00:25:25,166 >> AND THE 807 00:25:25,166 --> 00:25:26,400 CHARLES A. 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