1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 FOUNDATION. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,000 FOUNDATION. >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 FOUNDATION. >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:09,000 >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 CONTRARY" FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN. THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,000 FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN. THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR 7 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR GENERATIONS? 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,000 MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR GENERATIONS? BEHIND THE HEADLINES, SEXUALITY 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:25,000 GENERATIONS? BEHIND THE HEADLINES, SEXUALITY AND ISLAM. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,000 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,000 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE. WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,000 WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,000 TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES. UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 PERSPECTIVES. UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE CONTINUES. 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE CONTINUES. OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 CONTINUES. OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,000 OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES. THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES. THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO FEMALES 15 AND OLDER. 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO FEMALES 15 AND OLDER. THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 FEMALES 15 AND OLDER. THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM TAKING EFFECT. 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM TAKING EFFECT. BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 TAKING EFFECT. BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A 34 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A DOCTOR OR PARENT. 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A DOCTOR OR PARENT. REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS, 36 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 DOCTOR OR PARENT. REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS, NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS, NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS 38 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000 NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. 39 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A 40 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS OR HEALTH CARE? 42 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS OR HEALTH CARE? >> IT IS A COMPROMISE. 43 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 OR HEALTH CARE? >> IT IS A COMPROMISE. IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED 44 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 >> IT IS A COMPROMISE. IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA 45 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE 46 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO 47 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH. 48 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH. >> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH 49 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH. >> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS 50 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 >> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED 51 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A 52 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:02,000 A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH 54 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE 55 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT 56 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT PHYSICAL HEALTH. 57 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT PHYSICAL HEALTH. ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED 58 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 PHYSICAL HEALTH. ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION 59 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING 60 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000 WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IN THESE AREAS. 61 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IN THESE AREAS. >> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA 62 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 IN THESE AREAS. >> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND 63 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 >> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD 64 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT. 65 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT. WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO 66 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 A LOT TO DO WITH IT. WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B 67 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. 68 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,000 BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT 69 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS 70 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO 71 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD 72 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD CONVENTION. 73 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD CONVENTION. DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE 74 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 CONVENTION. DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY 75 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD 76 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD TAKE THIS POSITION? 77 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD TAKE THIS POSITION? >> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION 78 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 TAKE THIS POSITION? >> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION IS SO OUTRAGEOUS. 79 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 >> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION IS SO OUTRAGEOUS. ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15, 80 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 IS SO OUTRAGEOUS. ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15, HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO 81 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15, HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS 82 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN 83 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND 84 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS 85 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12 86 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12 BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE 87 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,000 THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12 BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12. 88 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12. YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM 89 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12. YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU 90 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE. 91 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE. BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED 92 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE. BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS 93 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS PART. 94 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS PART. >> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT 95 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 PART. >> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT OBAMA ON THIS ONE. 96 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 >> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT OBAMA ON THIS ONE. ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING, 97 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 OBAMA ON THIS ONE. ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING, SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND 98 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING, SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS 99 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF 100 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE 101 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT 102 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE 103 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 15. 104 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 15. THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE 105 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 OF 15. THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN 106 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,000 THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW 107 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN 108 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN GETTING THIS DRUG. 109 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN GETTING THIS DRUG. >> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL 110 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 GETTING THIS DRUG. >> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS 111 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 >> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS THERE A MARKER THERE? 112 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS THERE A MARKER THERE? >> THAT IS A GREY AREA. 113 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 THERE A MARKER THERE? >> THAT IS A GREY AREA. BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE 114 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,000 >> THAT IS A GREY AREA. BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU 115 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE 116 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE 117 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE AGE OF 18 TO GET. 118 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE AGE OF 18 TO GET. WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK 119 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 AGE OF 18 TO GET. WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D. 120 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D. IF I WANT TO GET DEACON 121 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,000 GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D. IF I WANT TO GET DEACON GUESSING. 122 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 IF I WANT TO GET DEACON GUESSING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS 123 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 GUESSING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF 124 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,000 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF 15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO 125 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF 15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. 126 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE 127 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE BOUNDARIES AT. 128 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE BOUNDARIES AT. >> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE 129 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 BOUNDARIES AT. >> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE, 130 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 >> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE, ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT 131 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE, ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT PARTICULARS AT PLAY. 132 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT PARTICULARS AT PLAY. REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH 133 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 PARTICULARS AT PLAY. REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION 134 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND 135 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST 136 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE 137 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN. 138 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN. I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN 139 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN. I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH 140 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,000 I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE 141 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE 142 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THE 143 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST 144 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN 145 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH 146 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,000 THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT. 147 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT. WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE 148 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 ASPECT. WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE NEED TO HAVE A BROADER 149 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE NEED TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF 150 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 NEED TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF POLITICIZED -- 151 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF POLITICIZED -- >> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL 152 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 POLITICIZED -- >> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE? 153 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 >> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE? TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL, 154 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE? TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL, CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL 155 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL, CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET 156 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR 157 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER 158 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY 159 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM 160 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM TAKING PLACE. 161 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM TAKING PLACE. WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE 162 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 TAKING PLACE. WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG 163 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,000 WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG TO HAVE THIS CHILD. 164 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG TO HAVE THIS CHILD. >> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO 165 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 TO HAVE THIS CHILD. >> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE 166 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 >> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS 167 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,000 BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS AROUND THAT. 168 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS AROUND THAT. THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX 169 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 AROUND THAT. THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE 170 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT 171 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE 172 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH 173 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT 174 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. 175 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE 176 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 MAKES PERFECT SENSE. TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY. 177 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY. WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY 178 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY. WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE 179 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A 180 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD MOVE OR NOT? 181 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD MOVE OR NOT? >> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING -- 182 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,000 GOOD MOVE OR NOT? >> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING -- FRANKLY I THINK THIS 183 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 >> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING -- FRANKLY I THINK THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN 184 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 FRANKLY I THINK THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND 185 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S 186 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE 187 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE REGULATION. 188 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,000 NOT A BLACK AND WHITE REGULATION. WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT 189 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 REGULATION. WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH 190 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE 191 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE. 192 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT 193 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE 194 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BROADEN THE 195 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BROADEN THE CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN 196 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 NEED TO BROADEN THE CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT 197 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN 198 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF 199 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,000 THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE 200 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE 20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION 201 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE 20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS. 202 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS. >> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW 203 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS. >> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU 204 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 >> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS 205 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,000 TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS AT HOME. 206 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS AT HOME. THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF 207 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 AT HOME. THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE 208 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE 209 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS 210 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE 211 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING. 212 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING. THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION 213 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 ADDRESSING. THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN. 214 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN. IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO 215 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN. IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE 216 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS, 217 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS, THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES 218 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,000 EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS, THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES ACCESS. 219 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES ACCESS. THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM. 220 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 ACCESS. THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM. >> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S 221 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM. >> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S OPENING ACCESS. 222 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 >> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S OPENING ACCESS. MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS -- 223 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 OPENING ACCESS. MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS -- >> BUT THAT -- 224 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS -- >> BUT THAT -- >> WAIT A SECOND. 225 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 >> BUT THAT -- >> WAIT A SECOND. HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS 226 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 >> WAIT A SECOND. HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY 227 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER 228 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE 229 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S 230 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH 231 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS 232 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF 233 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. 234 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE 235 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING. 236 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING. IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE 237 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING. IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A 238 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE 239 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY 240 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE 241 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,000 SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE ACCESS. 242 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE ACCESS. >> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING 243 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 ACCESS. >> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL 244 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 >> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL COMPROMISE. 245 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL COMPROMISE. I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE 246 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 COMPROMISE. I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT. 247 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT. IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL, 248 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT. IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY 249 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR 250 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T 251 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW. 252 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW. >> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME 253 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW. >> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON 254 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 >> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE 255 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY 256 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING 257 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT? 258 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT? >> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO. 259 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT? >> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO. QUESTION ABOUT IT. 260 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 >> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO. QUESTION ABOUT IT. BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A. 261 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 QUESTION ABOUT IT. BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A. COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE 262 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A. COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE 263 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE 264 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN 265 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN THAT WAY. 266 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN THAT WAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE 267 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 THAT WAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE 268 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE 269 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER 270 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY 271 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,000 INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY POLITICAL. 272 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY POLITICAL. >> LAST WORD. 273 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 POLITICAL. >> LAST WORD. >> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE 274 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 >> LAST WORD. >> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I 275 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 >> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE 276 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR 277 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR 10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT 278 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR 10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I 279 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU 280 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD 281 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE 282 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET 283 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF 284 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT 285 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY 286 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN 287 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING 288 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING ACCESS TO THE DRUG. 289 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING ACCESS TO THE DRUG. WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND 290 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 ACCESS TO THE DRUG. WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT 291 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN. 292 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN. >> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. 293 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,000 WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN. >> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER 294 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 >> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY. 295 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY. FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO 296 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:14,000 @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY. FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO MATERIALIST MILLENIALS? 297 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO MATERIALIST MILLENIALS? TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND 298 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 MATERIALIST MILLENIALS? TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY 299 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS, 300 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS, ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY. 301 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS, ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY. COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS 302 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY. COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING 303 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,000 COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND 304 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND SHINY NEW CARS. 305 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND SHINY NEW CARS. YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION 306 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 SHINY NEW CARS. YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR 307 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB. 308 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB. TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE 309 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB. TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE 310 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT - 311 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT - AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE 312 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:47,000 THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT - AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE BOOMER GENERATION. 313 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,000 AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE BOOMER GENERATION. SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS 314 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 BOOMER GENERATION. SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED 315 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER, 316 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER 317 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC? 318 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC? HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST 319 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC? HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST ALL THOSE INFLUENCES? 320 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST ALL THOSE INFLUENCES? >> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S 321 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 ALL THOSE INFLUENCES? >> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S CHALLENGING. 322 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 >> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S CHALLENGING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE 323 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 CHALLENGING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE 324 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY 325 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES. 326 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES. SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE 327 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES. SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT 328 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE 329 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY 330 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,000 THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU 331 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER 332 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,000 CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER CULTURE. 333 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER CULTURE. NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE 334 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 CULTURE. NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A 335 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER, 336 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER, I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY 337 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER, I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES, 338 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES, THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN 339 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES, THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM 340 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS 341 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. 342 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS' 343 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS' BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE 344 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS' BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES 345 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 346 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM 347 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,000 ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM TIME. 348 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM TIME. IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM, 349 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 TIME. IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM, BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE 350 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM, BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE 351 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE '80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES 352 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE '80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER 353 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,000 '80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER WATER. 354 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER WATER. THAT CHANGES VALUES. 355 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 WATER. THAT CHANGES VALUES. AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW 356 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 THAT CHANGES VALUES. AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE 357 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT 358 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING 359 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN 360 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF 361 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF WORK-LIFE BALANCE. 362 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF WORK-LIFE BALANCE. I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR 363 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 WORK-LIFE BALANCE. I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR THAT. 364 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR THAT. BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN 365 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 THAT. BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN 366 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND 367 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS. 368 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS. >> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT 369 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,000 VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS. >> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER 370 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,000 >> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE 371 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO 372 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU 373 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE 374 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED. 375 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED. AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO 376 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED. AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS -- 377 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS -- >> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO 378 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS -- >> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE. 379 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 >> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE. >> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND 380 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,000 COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE. >> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND 381 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 >> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF 382 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS. 383 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS. AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE 384 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS. AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M 385 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. 386 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON 387 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 HAVING A HARD TIME. MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON TO WORK. 388 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON TO WORK. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO 389 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 TO WORK. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS 390 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE IT. 391 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE IT. HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S 392 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 HAVE IT. HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I 393 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT 394 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM. 395 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM. IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION. 396 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM. IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION. >> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY -- 397 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION. >> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY -- IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING 398 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 >> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY -- IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME 399 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS 400 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%. 401 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%. EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S 402 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%. EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I 403 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM 404 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN 405 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME, 406 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME, ME, ME GENERATION. 407 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME, ME, ME GENERATION. ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE, 408 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 ME, ME GENERATION. ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS 409 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,000 ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE 410 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST 411 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT 412 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIALISM. 413 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIALISM. I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A 414 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 TYPE OF MATERIALISM. I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A 415 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT 416 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE 417 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:53,000 HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE WEALTH? 418 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE WEALTH? >> A HORSE AND BUGGY. 419 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 WEALTH? >> A HORSE AND BUGGY. >> NO. 420 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 >> A HORSE AND BUGGY. >> NO. YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU -- 421 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 >> NO. YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU -- CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU 422 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU -- CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES. 423 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES. THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I 424 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES. THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS 425 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU 426 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU RICH. 427 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU RICH. >> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY 428 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,000 RICH. >> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING 429 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 >> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING HAS GONE CRAZY. 430 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING HAS GONE CRAZY. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED 431 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 HAS GONE CRAZY. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR 432 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A 433 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO 434 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO THE BATHROOM. 435 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO THE BATHROOM. WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR 436 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 THE BATHROOM. WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR THERE'S AN AD THERE. 437 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR THERE'S AN AD THERE. I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK 438 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 THERE'S AN AD THERE. I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN 439 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,000 I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN 1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW 440 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN 1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS 441 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE. 442 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE. WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF 443 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE. WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40 444 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40 YEARS AGO. 445 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40 YEARS AGO. THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING. 446 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 YEARS AGO. THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING. IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING. 447 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,000 THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING. IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING. >> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND 448 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING. >> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO 449 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 >> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY 450 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG 451 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S 452 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA. 453 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,000 POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA. WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL 454 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA. WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON 455 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO -- 456 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO -- TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE 457 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO -- TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND 458 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE 459 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE 460 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 461 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN LIVES. 462 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN LIVES. THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING. 463 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 THEIR OWN LIVES. THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING. >> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING. 464 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING. >> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING. PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING 465 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 >> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING. PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON 466 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM 467 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT, 468 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT, WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE 469 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT, WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT? 470 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,000 WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT? >> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE. 471 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT? >> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE. >> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW 472 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 >> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE. >> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I 473 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 >> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE 474 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON 475 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE. 476 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE. IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF 477 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 OTHER PEOPLE. IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT 478 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING 479 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24% 480 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24% OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S 481 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,000 IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24% OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S REAL PROBLEM. 482 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S REAL PROBLEM. >> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF 483 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 REAL PROBLEM. >> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM 484 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 >> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS. 485 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS. AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN 486 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS. AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER 487 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE 488 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE GETTING -- 489 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE GETTING -- >> IT'S A FAIRY STALE. 490 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 GETTING -- >> IT'S A FAIRY STALE. IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS 491 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 >> IT'S A FAIRY STALE. IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD 492 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,000 IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF 493 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30. 494 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30. THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I 495 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30. THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF 496 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,000 THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS 497 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,000 DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS PAYDAY. 498 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,000 WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS PAYDAY. COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME. 499 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,000 PAYDAY. COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME. BEHIND THE HEADLINES: 500 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME. BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF 501 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,000 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S 502 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S 503 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK. 504 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,000 OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK. IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE 505 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK. IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 506 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB 507 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,000 COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB CULTURE. 508 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB CULTURE. >> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF 509 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 CULTURE. >> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE 510 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 >> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY 511 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR 512 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB 513 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB WORLD IS MARRIAGE. 514 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB WORLD IS MARRIAGE. AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE, 515 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 WORLD IS MARRIAGE. AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR 516 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY 517 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE 518 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED BY THE STATE. 519 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED BY THE STATE. ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS 520 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 REGISTERED BY THE STATE. ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE 521 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR 522 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,000 CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR SHAMEFUL. 523 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR SHAMEFUL. >> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE 524 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 SHAMEFUL. >> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART 525 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 >> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE 526 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE 527 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE 528 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE CULPRIT IN LIMITING ISLAMIC 529 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,000 OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE CULPRIT IN LIMITING ISLAMIC WOMEN'S RIGHTS. 530 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 WOMEN'S RIGHTS. >> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP 531 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 >> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IT'S 532 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 >> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS 533 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 IN MIND IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO 534 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE 535 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING. 536 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING. AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE 537 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING. AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL 538 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY 539 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT. 540 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT. ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD 541 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT. ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED. 542 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS 543 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE 544 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS, 545 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS, IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS. 546 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS, IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS. >> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY 547 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS. >> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED 548 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 >> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED WITH THEIR MARRIAGES. 549 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED WITH THEIR MARRIAGES. >> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN 550 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,000 WITH THEIR MARRIAGES. >> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN 551 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 >> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE 552 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,000 PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE OF LONGING. 553 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE OF LONGING. THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE 554 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:23,000 OF LONGING. THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE, 555 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE, IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY 556 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,000 EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE, IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY 557 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,000 IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY WANTED MORE ROMANCE. 558 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY WANTED MORE ROMANCE. AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED 559 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,000 WANTED MORE ROMANCE. AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL 560 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES. 561 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,000 TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY 562 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,000 DESIRES. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY FELT INHIBITED. 563 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY FELT INHIBITED. THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY 564 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 FELT INHIBITED. THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY WOULD BE JUDGED. 565 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY WOULD BE JUDGED. THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR 566 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 WOULD BE JUDGED. THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU 567 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE THINGS? 568 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU KNOW THESE THINGS? ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN? 569 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 KNOW THESE THINGS? ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN? DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE? 570 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,000 ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN? DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE? HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE 571 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,000 DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE? HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE CITADEL?" 572 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE CITADEL?" >> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB 573 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 CITADEL?" >> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT 574 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000 >> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT THE EXACT SAME THINGS WESTERN 575 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT THE EXACT SAME THINGS WESTERN WOMEN WOULD WANT. 576 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 WOMEN WOULD WANT. >> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET, 577 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 >> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET, MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO 578 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 >> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET, MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY 579 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST 580 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST THEIR FAITH. 581 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST THEIR FAITH. HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED 582 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 THEIR FAITH. HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER 583 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN BODIES. 584 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,000 TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN BODIES. AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE 585 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 THEIR OWN BODIES. AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT 586 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE 587 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE 588 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN 589 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN >> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES" 590 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,000 ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN >> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES" REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT 591 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,000 >> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES" REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT "ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL 592 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT "ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT 593 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 "ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX 594 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM. 595 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS 596 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION 597 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,000 >> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS 598 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE 599 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000 AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE 600 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE OUTSIDE MARRIAGE. 601 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE OUTSIDE MARRIAGE. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE 602 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000 OUTSIDE MARRIAGE. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT 603 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT HOPELESS. 604 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT HOPELESS. THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB 605 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 HOPELESS. THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO 606 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,000 THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS. 607 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS. AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A 608 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS. AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND 609 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE 610 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO 611 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000 ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO COME. 612 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO COME. FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND 613 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 COME. FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE 614 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO 615 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL. 616 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,000 BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL. THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL 617 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,000 FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL. THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE 618 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES 619 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,000 ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES THE ARAB REGION. 620 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES THE ARAB REGION. >> WELCOME 621 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 THE ARAB REGION. >> WELCOME MANAL OMAR 622 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 >> WELCOME MANAL OMAR , DO YOU AGREE? 623 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 MANAL OMAR , DO YOU AGREE? >> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE 624 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 , DO YOU AGREE? >> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING 625 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 >> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING IN THE REGION. 626 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING IN THE REGION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE 627 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 IN THE REGION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL 628 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR 629 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO 630 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING 631 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000 BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY 632 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT 633 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS. 634 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS. >> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT 635 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS. >> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE 636 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 >> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE 637 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000 OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S 638 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN 639 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE 640 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,000 HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW 641 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,000 WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED. 642 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED. HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS? 643 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000 THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED. HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS? >> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL 644 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000 HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS? >> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING 645 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 >> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE 646 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000 CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL 647 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I 648 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT 649 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,000 ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT WOMEN SHAMED THEM. 650 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT WOMEN SHAMED THEM. BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY 651 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 WOMEN SHAMED THEM. BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. 652 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED 653 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES, 654 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES, THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE 655 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES, THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE 656 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000 THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF 657 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR 658 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU 659 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO 660 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,000 YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO BACK HOME. 661 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO BACK HOME. YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB 662 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 BACK HOME. YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE 663 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN 664 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK. 665 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK. NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES 666 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK. NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR 667 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE 668 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT IT. 669 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK IS PARTICULARLY 670 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,000 READY TO TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN 671 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 I THINK IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN 672 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO 673 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS 674 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE 675 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY 676 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE 677 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL 678 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL EMPOWER US. 679 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL EMPOWER US. THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE 680 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 EMPOWER US. THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT 681 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME 682 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST 683 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,000 YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST MOVEMENTS. 684 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST MOVEMENTS. >> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN 685 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,000 MOVEMENTS. >> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT 686 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 >> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WESTERN WOMEN WANT? 687 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WESTERN WOMEN WANT? DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH 688 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 WESTERN WOMEN WANT? DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT 689 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO 690 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES 691 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN. 692 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN. THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS 693 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN. THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS SHELTERED BY ISLAM. 694 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS SHELTERED BY ISLAM. WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT 695 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 SHELTERED BY ISLAM. WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS. 696 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS. >> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH 697 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS. >> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH THE AUTHOR THERE. 698 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 >> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH THE AUTHOR THERE. IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES, 699 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 THE AUTHOR THERE. IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES, GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT 700 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES, GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. 701 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,000 GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT 702 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW 703 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000 BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE 704 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE THEY EXPOSE. 705 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE THEY EXPOSE. WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL 706 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 THEY EXPOSE. WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO 707 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,000 WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. 708 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE 709 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000 CHOOSE. WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE THEIR OWN PRIORITIES. 710 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE THEIR OWN PRIORITIES. WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR 711 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 THEIR OWN PRIORITIES. WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR 712 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,000 WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR PRIORITIES. 713 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR PRIORITIES. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED 714 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000 PRIORITIES. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED JUST LISTEN TO US. 715 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000 WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED JUST LISTEN TO US. AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO 716 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 JUST LISTEN TO US. AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE 717 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE 718 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS 719 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY 720 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY FOCUS ON. 721 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000 THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY FOCUS ON. HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT 722 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000 FOCUS ON. HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES. 723 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES. THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT 724 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000 AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES. THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR. 725 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR. IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT 726 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR. IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE 727 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE IS THE SAME. 728 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE IS THE SAME. >> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS 729 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 IS THE SAME. >> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU 730 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 >> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE 731 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,000 CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE TABLE. 732 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,000 NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE TABLE. IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN 733 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 TABLE. IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE 734 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST 735 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED 736 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000 PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY 737 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE 738 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS, 739 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS, PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN 740 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000 THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS, PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE 741 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE 742 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY. 743 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,000 GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING 744 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU 745 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 >> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL 746 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO 747 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO DO. 748 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO DO. THERE'S BEEN THE 749 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 DO. THERE'S BEEN THE CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN 750 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000 THERE'S BEEN THE CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS 751 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE 752 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000 WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME 753 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND 754 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,000 DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN 755 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,000 THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN MODEL. 756 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN MODEL. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE 757 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 MODEL. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES. 758 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000 >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES. WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE 759 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000 GREATEST CHALLENGES. WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN 760 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED 761 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS 762 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE 763 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE WAS ISLAM. 764 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE WAS ISLAM. YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN 765 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 WAS ISLAM. YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO 766 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO 767 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,000 WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST. 768 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST. NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING. 769 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST. NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE 770 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO 771 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,000 AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO EDUCATION. 772 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO EDUCATION. WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE 773 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 EDUCATION. WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE 774 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,000 WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE ACCESS. 775 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE ACCESS. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN, 776 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 ACCESS. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN, PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP 777 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN, PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY 778 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT. 779 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT. >> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL 780 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT. >> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME 781 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,000 >> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT. 782 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000 QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT. WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN 783 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 LEFT. WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF? 784 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF? >> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST -- 785 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF? >> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST -- I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM 786 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 >> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST -- I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR 787 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO 788 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000 COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS 789 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S 790 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS. 791 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS. I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST 792 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 RIGHTS. I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT 793 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,000 I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH 794 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I 795 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000 ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY 796 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T 797 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY 798 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL 799 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,000 WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL PRODUCTS. 800 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL PRODUCTS. I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF 801 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 PRODUCTS. I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE, 802 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,000 I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE, VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO 803 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,000 PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE, VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE SOLD. 804 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE SOLD. >> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU. 805 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000 BE SOLD. >> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU. FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS 806 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 >> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU. FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE 807 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO 808 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000 AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT 809 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT EXPLANATION. 810 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,000 THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT EXPLANATION. THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF 811 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000 EXPLANATION. THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF "TO THE CONTRARY". 812 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF "TO THE CONTRARY". PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AT 813 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000 "TO THE CONTRARY". 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