FOUNDATION.

FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE

FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE
CONTRARY"

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE
CONTRARY"
FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN.

CONTRARY"
FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN.
THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE

FIRST, PLAN B UNDER FIRE AGAIN.
THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE
MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR

THEN, ARE MILLENNIAL TEENS MORE
MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR
GENERATIONS?

MATERIALISTIC THAN PRIOR
GENERATIONS?
BEHIND THE HEADLINES, SEXUALITY

GENERATIONS?
BEHIND THE HEADLINES, SEXUALITY
AND ISLAM.

 

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A
DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A
DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE

DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE
PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE
PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE

PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE
CONTINUES.

UP FIRST, THE PLAN B BATTLE
CONTINUES.
OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE

CONTINUES.
OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS

OF ALL THINGS, THE PRO-CHOICE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS
CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS
CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT
RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY

CHALLENGING A FEDERAL COURT
RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY
CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO

RULING THAT MADE EMERGENCY
CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO
WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES.

CONTRACEPTIVES AVAILABLE TO
WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES.
THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER

WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES.
THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER
THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

THIS DECISION CAME HOURS AFTER
THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES

THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES
OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO

APPROVED OVER-THE-COUNTER SALES
OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO
FEMALES 15 AND OLDER.

OF EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO
FEMALES 15 AND OLDER.
THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT

FEMALES 15 AND OLDER.
THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT
STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM

THE LEGAL CHALLENGE WILL NOT
STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM
TAKING EFFECT.

STOP THE FDA DECISION FROM
TAKING EFFECT.
BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE

TAKING EFFECT.
BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE
ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN

BUT IT REIGNITES THE DEBATE
ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN
B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A

ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN OBTAINING PLAN
B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A
DOCTOR OR PARENT.

B WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF A
DOCTOR OR PARENT.
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS,

DOCTOR OR PARENT.
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS,
NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE

 

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS GROUPS,
NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS

NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

PRESIDENT, CRITICIZE THE MOVE AS
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A

POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A
DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS

SO, PATRICIA SOSA WAS THIS A
DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS
OR HEALTH CARE?

DECISION BASED MORE ON POLITICS
OR HEALTH CARE?
>> IT IS A COMPROMISE.

OR HEALTH CARE?
>> IT IS A COMPROMISE.
IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED

>> IT IS A COMPROMISE.
IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED
ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA

IT'S CLEARLY A COMPROMISE BASED
ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA
AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE

ON THE POLITICS AND HEALTH DATA
AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE
DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO

AND PERSONAL CONCERN THAT HE
DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO
HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH.

DOESN'T WANT GIRLS UNDER 15 TO
HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH.
>> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH

HAVE ACCESS, IT'S BOTH.
>> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH
CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS

>> THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HEALTH
CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS
A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED

CONCERNS WERE UNFOUNDED THIS IS
A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A

A PURELY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A
LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO

DEGLIKES I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A
LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO
HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH

LARGER CONVERSATION NEEDS TO
HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH
THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE

HAPPEN AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH
THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE
F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT

THAT IT GOES IN HAND WITH THE
F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT
PHYSICAL HEALTH.

F.D.A. TYPE DECISIONS ABOUT
PHYSICAL HEALTH.
ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED

PHYSICAL HEALTH.
ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED
WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION

ABSOLUTELY POLL STICKS INVOLVED
WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING

WHICH IS A GREATER CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING
IN THESE AREAS.

ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING
IN THESE AREAS.
>> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA

IN THESE AREAS.
>> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND

>> I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND
THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD

HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS AROUND
THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD
A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

THE SAME AGE, THAT PROBABLY HAD
A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO

A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B

WOULD HE WANT HIS DAUGHTERS TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B
WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.

BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO PLAN B
WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT

WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT
TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS

I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD A LOT
TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS
ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO

TO DO WITH THE DEGLIKES THIS IS
ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO
ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD

ALSO THE FIRST PRESIDENT EVER TO
ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD
CONVENTION.

ADDRESS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD
CONVENTION.
DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE

CONVENTION.
DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE
SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY

DOESN'T IT SEEM A LITTLE
SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY
A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD

SCHIZOPHRENIC THAT HE IS LARGELY
A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD
TAKE THIS POSITION?

A PRO-CHOICE GUY THAT HE WOULD
TAKE THIS POSITION?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION

TAKE THIS POSITION?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION
IS SO OUTRAGEOUS.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT POSITION
IS SO OUTRAGEOUS.
ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15,

IS SO OUTRAGEOUS.
ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15,
HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO

ACCESS TO GIRLS OLDER THAN 15,
HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO
STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS

HE IS ASKING FOR THE COURT TO
STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS
THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN

STAY THE ORDER BECAUSE HE THINKS
THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN
TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND

THAT THE COURT IS INTRUDING IN
TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS

TO REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS, AND
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS
THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE REALLY IS
THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12
BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE

THREE YEARS BETWEEN 15 AND 12
BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE
IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12.

BECAUSE THE ORDER OF THE JUDGE
IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12.
YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM

IS BASICALLY OLDER THAN 12.
YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM
WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU

YOU SEE EQUIVALENCY OF CONDOM
WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU
DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE.

WHEN BOYS GO BUY CONDOMS YOU
DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE.
BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED

DON'T ASK HOW OLD THEY ARE.
BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED
GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS

BUT REALLY EATS VERY PROCEED
GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS
PART.

GUESS SIEVE DECISION ON HIS
PART.
>> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT

PART.
>> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT
OBAMA ON THIS ONE.

>> I'M GOING TO DEFEND PRESIDENT
OBAMA ON THIS ONE.
ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING,

OBAMA ON THIS ONE.
ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING,
SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND

ON THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD THING,
SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND
PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS

SHOCKING I'M GOING TO DEFEND
PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS
TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF

PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE WAS
TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF
WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE

TALKING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF
WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE
HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT

WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE
HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT
CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE

HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT
CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE
OF 15.

CHILDREN WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE
OF 15.
THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE

OF 15.
THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE
SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN

THAT IS TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE
SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN
I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW

SUBJECTS WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN
I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW
VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN

I WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO HOW
VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN
GETTING THIS DRUG.

VEHEMENTLY I'M AGAINST CHILDREN
GETTING THIS DRUG.
>> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL

GETTING THIS DRUG.
>> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL
BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS

>> AT WHAT AGE DOES A GIRL
BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS
THERE A MARKER THERE?

BECOME A CHILD OR A WOMAN, IS
THERE A MARKER THERE?
>> THAT IS A GREY AREA.

THERE A MARKER THERE?
>> THAT IS A GREY AREA.
BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE

>> THAT IS A GREY AREA.
BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE
LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU

BUT SHEER WHAT I WILL SAY WE
LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE

LOOK AT OTHER THING THAT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE
WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE

HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL SPOKEN ARE
WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE
AGE OF 18 TO GET.

WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER THE
AGE OF 18 TO GET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK

AGE OF 18 TO GET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK
GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D.

 

WE'RE LOOKING AT LIQUOR, SICK
GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D.
IF I WANT TO GET DEACON

GETS, I STILL HAVE TO SHOW I.D.
IF I WANT TO GET DEACON
GUESSING.

IF I WANT TO GET DEACON
GUESSING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS

GUESSING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS
YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS
YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF
15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO

YOU SAY, GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF
15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO
HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

15, CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO
HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE

HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE
BOUNDARIES AT.

THAT IS WHERE I'M PUTTING THE
BOUNDARIES AT.
>> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE

BOUNDARIES AT.
>> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE
POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE,

>> WHAT IS TROUBLES THE
POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE,
ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT

POLITICIZING OF THIS ISSUE,
ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT
PARTICULARS AT PLAY.

ABSOLUTELY THERE IS POT
PARTICULARS AT PLAY.
REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH

PARTICULARS AT PLAY.
REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH
OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION

REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT OVERREACH
OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION
YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND

OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS SITUATION
YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND
DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST

YOU CAN CALL IT OVERREACH AND
DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE

DEMOCRATS ARE REVOLTING AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE
SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN.

THE PRESIDENT PUTTING -- AT THE
SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN.
I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN

SAME TIME TO CARE FOR OUR WOMEN.
I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN
THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH

I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED HERE IN
THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH
ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE

THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESEARCH
ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE
ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE

ON DRIVING AGE AND DRINKING AGE
ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE
UNDERSTANDING OF THE

ALL THESE THINGS IS MORE
UNDERSTANDING OF THE
IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST

UNDERSTANDING OF THE
IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST
THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN

IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND JUST
THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN
BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH

THE PHYSICAL IMPACT ON A WOMAN
BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH
ASPECT.

BUT ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH
ASPECT.
WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE

ASPECT.
WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE
NEED TO HAVE A BROADER

WHERE EDUCATION IS NEEDED AND WE
NEED TO HAVE A BROADER
CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF

NEED TO HAVE A BROADER
CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF
POLITICIZED --

CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF
POLITICIZED --
>> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL

POLITICIZED --
>> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL
HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE?

>> TELL ME WHAT ASPECT OF MENTAL
HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE?
TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL,

HEALTH ARE YOU GETTING OUT HERE?
TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL,
CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL

TO ME, IF A YOUNG WOMAN, GIRL,
CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET

CHILD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET
PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR

HER IS OLD ENOUGH TO GET
PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR
POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER

PREGNANT I WOULD SAY -- OR
POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER
PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY

POSSIBLY BE PREGNANT TO REMEMBER
PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY
IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM

PLAN B DOESN'T ABORT A PREGNANCY
IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM
TAKING PLACE.

IT JUST STOPS A PREGNANCY FROM
TAKING PLACE.
WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE

TAKING PLACE.
WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE
THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG

WHY ISN'T SHE OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE
THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG
TO HAVE THIS CHILD.

THE DECISION THAT I'M TOO YOUNG
TO HAVE THIS CHILD.
>> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO

TO HAVE THIS CHILD.
>> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO
BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE

>> YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO
BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE
DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS

BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE AND MAKE
DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS
AROUND THAT.

DECISION TO HANDLE THE DECISIONS
AROUND THAT.
THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX

AROUND THAT.
THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX
EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE

THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE SEX
EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE
NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT

EDUCATION IS NEEDED WHERE WE
NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT
EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE

NEED TO BE MORE PRO-ACTIVE ABOUT
EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE
EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH

EDUCATING YOUNG WOMEN ABOUT THE
EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH
SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT

EMOTIONAL BURRED THEN COMES WITH
SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT
MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT A YOUNGZ THAT
MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE

MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY.

TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY.
WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY

TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONALLY.
WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY
BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE

WHAT SHOULD THE EMOTIONAL SURVEY
BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE
YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A

BE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE BEFORE
YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A
GOOD MOVE OR NOT?

YOU DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A
GOOD MOVE OR NOT?
>> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING --

GOOD MOVE OR NOT?
>> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING --
FRANKLY I THINK THIS

>> I THINK 'ABOUT MAKING --
FRANKLY I THINK THIS
CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN

FRANKLY I THINK THIS
CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN
EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND

CONVERSATION NEEDS TO COME IN
EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND
OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S

EVEN TO THE ABORTION DEBATE AND
OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S
NOT A BLACK AND WHITE

OTHERS AS WELL IN TERMS OF, IT'S
NOT A BLACK AND WHITE
REGULATION.

NOT A BLACK AND WHITE
REGULATION.
WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT

REGULATION.
WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT
THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH

WE NEED TO LOOK MORE BROADLY AT
THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH
INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE

THESE ISSUES OF WOMEN'S HEALTH
INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE
POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE.

INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN TO THE
POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT

POLITICAL COURT OF, AT WHAT AGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT
DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLEAR CUT
DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE
NEED TO BROADEN THE

DECISION IS BUT I THINK THAT WE
NEED TO BROADEN THE
CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN

NEED TO BROADEN THE
CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN
THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT

CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BROADEN
THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT
THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN

THE RESEARCH AGAIN LOOKING AT
THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN
THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF

THE NUMBER OF SINGLE MOTHERS IN
THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF
SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE

THIS CONCENTRATED OF 62% OF
SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE
20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION

SINGLE MOTHERS BEING THE
20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION
IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS.

20-25 -- 24 RAGE WHERE EDUCATION
IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS.
>> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW

IS NEEDED FOR OUR GIRLS.
>> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW
TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU

>> I THINK IF YOU NEED THE LAW
TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU
PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS

TO DRAW A LINE TO HELP YOU
PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS
AT HOME.

PARENT, YOU HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS
AT HOME.
THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF

AT HOME.
THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF
THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE

THIS IS NOT AN -- AS YOU SAID IF
THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE
DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE

THERE ARE CHILDREN HAVING SEX WE
DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE
DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS

DON'T WANT TEEN MOTHERS, WE
DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE

DON'T WANT TEEN ABORTIONS THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE
ADDRESSING.

IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE
ADDRESSING.
THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION

ADDRESSING.
THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION
WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN.

THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE ELECTION
WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN.
IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO

WAS ABOUT THE WAR ON WOMEN.
IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO
PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE

IF REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT TO
PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE
EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS,

PAY FOR OTHER BIRTH CONTROL HE
EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS,
THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES

EQUATED THAT TO DENYING ACCESS,
THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES
ACCESS.

THEN HE TURNS AROUND AND DENIES
ACCESS.
THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM.

ACCESS.
THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM.
>> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S

THAT TO ME IS THE PROBLEM.
>> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S
OPENING ACCESS.

>> HE'S NOT DENYING ACCESS, HE'S
OPENING ACCESS.
MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS --

OPENING ACCESS.
MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS --
>> BUT THAT --

MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS --
>> BUT THAT --
>> WAIT A SECOND.

>> BUT THAT --
>> WAIT A SECOND.
HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS

>> WAIT A SECOND.
HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS
ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY

HOLD IT -- THE F.D.A. SAYS
ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY
AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER

ANYONE SHOULD ANY WOMAN OF ANY
AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER
YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE

AGE, ANY GIRL OF ANY AGE HOWEVER
YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE
ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S

YOU WANT TO CALL IT SHOULD HAVE
ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S
NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH

ACCESS TO THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S
NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH
DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS

NO DOUBT -- THERE'S NO HEALTH
DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS
ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF

DOWNSIDE FOR TAKING WHAT IS
ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF
BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.

ESSENTIAL LEAP AN OVERDOSE OF
BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.
THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE

BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.
THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE
PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING.

THAT'S WHAT PREVENTION THE
PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING.
IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE

PREGNANCY FROM IMPLANTING.
IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE
COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A

IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE
COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A
MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE

COMPROMISED -- THAT'S NOT A
MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE
SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY

MEDICAL COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE
SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY
FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE

SCIENTIFIC PANEL SAYS IT'S OKAY
FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE
ACCESS.

FOR GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO HAVE
ACCESS.
>> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING

 

ACCESS.
>> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING
THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL

>> FUNNY, I'M NOT QUESTIONING
THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL
COMPROMISE.

THE FACT THAT IT'S A POLITICAL
COMPROMISE.
I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE

COMPROMISE.
I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE
IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT.

I KNOW IT'S POLITICAL COMPROMISE
IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT.
IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL,

IN A VERY POLARIZED ENVIRONMENT.
IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL,
YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY

IN SOME WAYS I WOULD SAY, WELL,
YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY
FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR

YOU'RE COMPROMISING THE ONLY
FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR
OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T

FACT THAT YOU'RE KNOWING IS YOUR
OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T
WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW.

OWN POLITICAL BASE, THEY DON'T
WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW.
>> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME

WANT YOU TO DO THIS ANYHOW.
>> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME
WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON

>> EXACTLY BUT EXPLAIN TO ME
WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON
OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE

WHAT THE CALCULUS WAS HERE ON
OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE
HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY

OBAMA'S PART BECAUSE ON THE ONE
HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY
CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING

HAND HE'S NOT GOING TO WIN ANY
CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING
ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT?

CONSERVATIVE VOTES BY STOPPING
ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT?
>> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO.

ACCESS AT BELOW 15, RIGHT?
>> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO.
QUESTION ABOUT IT.

>> COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT NO.
QUESTION ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A.

QUESTION ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A.
COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE

BECAUSE THERE IS THE F.D.A.
COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE
QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE

COUNTERING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE
QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE
PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE

QUESTION IS, WHO IS PUTTING THE
PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE
AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN

PRESSURE ON THEM TO MOVE THE AGE
AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN
THAT WAY.

AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT IN
THAT WAY.
BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE

THAT WAY.
BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE
THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE

BECAUSE AGAIN, HOW DO WE MAKE
THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE
THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE

THIS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ONE
THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE
INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER

THAT IS ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE
INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER
DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY

INSTEAD OF NITPICKING OVER
DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY
POLITICAL.

DETAILS THAT IS CLEARLY
POLITICAL.
>> LAST WORD.

POLITICAL.
>> LAST WORD.
>> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE

>> LAST WORD.
>> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I

>> I THINK THERE'S A HUGE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I
ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE

 

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17 AND 15, I
ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR

ALSO THINK THERE'S HUGE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR
10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15 AND 12 OR
10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT
THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I

10 OR 11 THERE IS ARGUMENT ABOUT
THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I
DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU

THEM BEING CHILDREN, I'M SORRY I
DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU
ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD

DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU
ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD
ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE

ALL SAY THAT IF THEY'RE OLD
ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE
THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET

ENOUGH TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE
THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET
THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF

THEY SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO GET
THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT

THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT
HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY

INFERENCES WHERE THEY MAY NOT
HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY
ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN

HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SEXUALLY
ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN
COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING

ACTIVE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN
COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING
ACCESS TO THE DRUG.

COMES IN ABOUT THEM HAVING
ACCESS TO THE DRUG.
WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND

ACCESS TO THE DRUG.
WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND
NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT

WE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND
NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT
WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN.

NOT DISCUSS WITH THE PARENT
WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN.
>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT COMES IN.
>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER

 

>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
@BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
@BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY.
FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO

@BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY.
FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO
MATERIALIST MILLENIALS?

FROM EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO
MATERIALIST MILLENIALS?
TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND

MATERIALIST MILLENIALS?
TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND
MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY

TODAY'S TEENAGERS ARE LAZIER AND
MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY
BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS,

MORE MATERIALISTIC THAN BABY
BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS,
ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY.

BOOMERS WERE IN THEIR TEENS,
ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY.
COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS

ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY.
COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS
PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING

COMPARED TO BOOMERS, MILLENNIALS
PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING
THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND

PLACE MORE IMPORTANCE ON OWNING
THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND
SHINY NEW CARS.

THINGS SUCH AS BIG HOUSES AND
SHINY NEW CARS.
YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION

SHINY NEW CARS.
YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION
LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR

YET THEY ARE THE GENERATION
LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR
PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB.

LEAST WILLING TO WORK LONGER OR
PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB.
TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE

PUT IN MORE EFFORT TO THEIR JOB.
TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE
THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE

TEENS MAY FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE
THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE
THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT -

THE SOCIETY THEY GREW UP IN GAVE
THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT -
AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE

THEM A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT -
AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE
BOOMER GENERATION.

AND THAT MAY BE THE FAULT OF THE
BOOMER GENERATION.
SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS

BOOMER GENERATION.
SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS
OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED

SO, MARJORIE CLIFTON IN THIS
OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED
WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER,

OVER ADVERTISED, OVER POPULATED
WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER,
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER

WORLD YOU HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER,
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER
NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC?

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE HER
NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC?
HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST

NOT TO BE MATERIALISTIC?
HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST
ALL THOSE INFLUENCES?

HOW DO YOU FIGHT BACK AGAINST
ALL THOSE INFLUENCES?
>> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S

ALL THOSE INFLUENCES?
>> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S
CHALLENGING.

>> I THINK AS PARENTS IT'S
CHALLENGING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE

CHALLENGING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE
SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE

ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE WHEN WE
SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE
DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY

SEE DATA ATTRIBUTED TO THE
DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY
MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES.

DIFFERENT GENERATIONS THAT VERY
MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES.
SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE

MUCH IS INDICATIVE OF THE TIMES.
SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT

SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT
THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE

OUTER ATMOSPHERE, THE PARENTS AT
THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE
PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY

THIS TABLE AND SOON TO BE
PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY
CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU

 

PARENTS KNOW THAT IT IS VERY
CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU
SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER

CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU
SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER
CULTURE.

 

SOMETIMES ARE WORKING COUNTER
CULTURE.
NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE

CULTURE.
NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE
CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A

NOW I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE
CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A
MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER,

CHILDREN, MY BROTHER IS A
MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER,
I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY

MILLENNIAL, MY YOUNGEST BROTHER,
I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY
BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES,

I CAN TELL YOU THE DISPARITY
BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES,
THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN

BETWEEN ATTITUDES, THE VALUES,
THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN
THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM

THE WAY THAT WE ACT, RAISED IN
THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM
EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS

THE SAME HOUSEHOLD FROM
EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

EIGHT-YEAR DIFFERENCE IS
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS'

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS'
BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE

AND YOU COULD ARGUE HIS FRIENDS'
BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE
ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES

BEHAVIOR ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE
ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES
ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

ON THE ENTITLED AND THEIR VALUES
ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM

ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM
TIME.

BUT HE WAS RAISED IN A BOOM
TIME.
IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM,

TIME.
IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM,
BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE

IT WAS DURING THAT HI-TECH BOOM,
BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE
I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE

BUSINESS WAS ON THE RISE, WHERE
I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE
'80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES

I CAN REMEMBER THE CRASH IN THE
'80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES
WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER

'80S WAS IN THE OIL BUSINESSES
WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER
WATER.

WHENEVER ONE'S HOUSES WERE UNDER
WATER.
THAT CHANGES VALUES.

WATER.
THAT CHANGES VALUES.
AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW

THAT CHANGES VALUES.
AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW
DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE

AS PARENTS I THINK IT MEANS HOW
DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE
INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT

DO WE SORT OF PROTECT, HOW DO WE
INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT
SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING

INSTILL A WORK ETHIC BUT
SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING
TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN

SOMETHING MIL YENIAL ARE DOING
TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN
GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF

TO CHANGE THE WORKFORCE IN
GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF
WORK-LIFE BALANCE.

GENERAL IS CHANGING THE VALUE OF
WORK-LIFE BALANCE.
I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR

WORK-LIFE BALANCE.
I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR
THAT.

I THINK THEY ARE CRITICIZED FOR
THAT.
BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN

THAT.
BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN
THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN

BUT FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT EVEN
THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN
BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND

THE GEN-X AND BOOMERS CAN HE CAN
BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND
VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS.

BRACE IN TERMS OF THE NEED AND
VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS.
>> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT

VALUE OF TIME WITH FRIENDS.
>> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT
ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER

>> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT
ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER
WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE

ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AS A BOOMER
WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE
CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO

WITH TWO MILLENNIAL KIDS AND THE
CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO
PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU

CHALLENGES, THE TECHNOLOGY, TO
PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU
WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE

PRESS A BUTTON GET EVERYBODY YOU
WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE
YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED.

WANT JUST LIKE THIS, OF COURSE
YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED.
AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO

YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL ENTITLED.
AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO
WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS --

AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAVE TO
WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS --
>> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO

WORK SO HARD, I SEE MY KIDS --
>> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO
COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE.

>> COMPETITION TO GET IN TO
COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE.
>> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND

COLLEGE IS SO MUCH WORSE.
>> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND
EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND

>> IT'S TREMENDOUS AND
EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND
EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF

EXPECTATIONS ACADEMICALLY AND
EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF
COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS.

EVERY ASPECT IN TERMS OF
COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS.
AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE

COMPETITION IS TREMENDOUS.
AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE
OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M

AT THE SAME TIME I'LL MAKE
OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M
HAVING A HARD TIME.

OBSERVATION, SOMETHING I'M
HAVING A HARD TIME.
MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON

HAVING A HARD TIME.
MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON
TO WORK.

MY SON IS 17 I WOULD LIKE MY SON
TO WORK.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO

TO WORK.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO
A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HE CANNOT DO
A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS
HAVE IT.

A PAPER ROUTE BECAUSE ADULTS
HAVE IT.
HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S

HAVE IT.
HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S
BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I

HE CANNOT WORK AT McDONALD'S
BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I
WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT

BECAUSE ADULTS HAVE THAT JOB I
WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT
FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM.

WANT MY KIDS TO WORK I CANNOT
FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM.
IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION.

FIND ENTRY LEVEL JOB FOR THEM.
IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION.
>> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY --

IT'S VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION.
>> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY --
IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING

>> AS A MILLENNIAL I CAN SAY --
IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING
SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME

IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING
SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME
OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS

SITUATION, THE JOB NUMBERS CAME
OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS
RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%.

OUT TODAY FOR THE YOUTH JOBLESS
RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%.
EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S

RATE IT'S EFFECTIVE RATE OF 16%.
EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S
VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I

EVEN THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK IT'S
VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I
DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM

VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM BUT I
DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM
MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN

DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM
MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME,

MILLENNIALS BUT THE I-GEN
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME,
ME, ME GENERATION.

BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ME,
ME, ME GENERATION.
ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE,

ME, ME GENERATION.
ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE,
THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS

ON THE SPLIT SIDE THAT HAVE,
THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS
GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE

THOUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS
GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE
MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST

GENERATION IS PARTICULARLY MORE
MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST
GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT

MATERIALISTIC THAN PAST
GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT
TYPE OF MATERIALISM.

GENERATIONS, JUST A DIFFERENT
TYPE OF MATERIALISM.
I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A

TYPE OF MATERIALISM.
I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A
HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A

I THINK -- YOU LOOK BACK A
HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A
HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT

HUNDRED YEARS, WHAT DID PEOPLE A
HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT
AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE

HUNDRED YEARS AGO REALLY WANT
AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE
WEALTH?

 

AND HUE DID THEY DETERMINE
WEALTH?
>> A HORSE AND BUGGY.

WEALTH?
>> A HORSE AND BUGGY.
>> NO.

>> A HORSE AND BUGGY.
>> NO.
YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU --

>> NO.
YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU --
CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU

YOU HAD A BIG NICE HOUSE, YOU --
CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU
HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES.

CARS WERE JUST COMING AROUND YOU
HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES.
THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I

HAD A CAR AND FANCY CLOTHES.
THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I
THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS

THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME THING I
THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS
VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU

THINK AMERICANS AND MILLENNIALS
VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU
RICH.

VALUE IN TERMS OF WHAT MAKES YOU
RICH.
>> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY

RICH.
>> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY
THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING

>> BUT I WILL -- I WANT TO SAY
THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING
HAS GONE CRAZY.

THAT THE LEVEL OF ADVERTISING
HAS GONE CRAZY.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED

HAS GONE CRAZY.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED
GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR

 

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I STARTED
GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR
DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A

GOING TO THIS PIZZA JOINT FOR
DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A
WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO

DINNER WITH MY HUSBAND ONCE A
WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO
THE BATHROOM.

WEEK, THE ADS CHASE YOU IN TO
THE BATHROOM.
WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR

THE BATHROOM.
WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR
THERE'S AN AD THERE.

WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BATHROOM DOOR
THERE'S AN AD THERE.
I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK

THERE'S AN AD THERE.
I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK
AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN

I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN, YOU LOOK
AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN
1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW

AT PICTURES OF TIMES SQUARE IN
1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW
THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS

1970 AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW
THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS
MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE.

THERE ARE TEN MILLION TIMES AS
MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE.
WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF

MANY ADS IN TIMES SQUARE.
WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF
ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40

WHICH ALWAYS HAD TONS OF
ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40
YEARS AGO.

ADVERTISING AS THERE WAS 40
YEARS AGO.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING.

YEARS AGO.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING.
IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS DISGUSTING.
IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING.
>> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND

IT'S CRAMMED WITH ADVERTISING.
>> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND
THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO

>> THERE'S ADVERTISING AND
THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO
YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY

THERE'S ALSO -- GOING BACK TO
YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY
LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG

YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMES THEY
LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG
POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S

LIVE IN, WHAT WAS THE BIG
POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S
ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA.

POLITICAL MESSAGE OF THE HE'S
ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA.
WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL

ELECTRICS, THE LIFE OF JULIA.
WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL
SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON

WE CAN DEPEND ON SOCIAL
SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON
FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO --

SECURITY, WE CAN DEPEND ON
FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO --
TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE

FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO GET US TO --
TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE
CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND

TO LOAN US SMALL BUSINESSES WE
CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND
MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE

CAN DEPEND ON MEDICAID AND
MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE
SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE

MEDICARE, AND FOR PEOPLE, WE'RE
SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE
DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

SENDING MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE
DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
THEIR OWN LIVES.

DON'T NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
THEIR OWN LIVES.
THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING.

THEIR OWN LIVES.
THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING.
>> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING.

THAT IS A VERY SCARY THING.
>> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING.
PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING

>> WAIT, THAT'S INTERESTING.
PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING
POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON

PATRICIA RAISED FASCINATING
POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON
GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM

POINT ABOUT PUSHING A BUTTON
GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM
DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT,

GETTING WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM
DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT,
WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE

DIRECTIONS TO BUYING A PRODUCT,
WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE
ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT?

WHICH IS A BIGGER INFLUENCE, THE
ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT?
>> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE.

ONE YOU JUST RAISED OR THAT?
>> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE.
>> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW

>> I'M LIBERTARIAN, OF COURSE.
>> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW
MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I

>> I WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW
MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I
WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE

MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I
WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE
THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON

WANT, I WANT TO BE ON WELFARE
THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON
OTHER PEOPLE.

THE REST OF MY LIFE AND RELY ON
OTHER PEOPLE.
IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF

OTHER PEOPLE.
IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF
EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT

IT'S A GENERATION OF SELF
EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT
HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING

EMPOWERMENT, GO OUT MAKE IT
HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING
IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24%

HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING
IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24%
OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S

IN TO, WHICH I HEARD UP TO 24%
OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S
REAL PROBLEM.

OF YOUNG PEOPLE OUT JOBS THAT'S
REAL PROBLEM.
>> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF

 

REAL PROBLEM.
>> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF
EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM

>> BECAUSE THAT IS A NATION OF
EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM
INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS.

EASY ACCESS TO EVERYTHING FROM
INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS.
AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN

INFORMATION TO MATERIAL THINGS.
AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN
ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER

AND VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN
ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER
TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE

ORDER TO MAKE THE MONEY IN ORDER
TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE
GETTING --

TO PAY THOSE THINGS, YOU ARE
GETTING --
>> IT'S A FAIRY STALE.

GETTING --
>> IT'S A FAIRY STALE.
IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS

>> IT'S A FAIRY STALE.
IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS
WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD

IT'S SUCKERBURG, GOOGLE, KIDS
WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD
HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF

WHO ARE 30 WHO CAN WEAR HOOD
HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30.

HE'S HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30.
THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I

DOLLARS BY THE TIME THEY'RE 30.
THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I
DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF

THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT I
DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF
WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS

DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN A LOT OF
WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS
PAYDAY.

WORK AND I CAN GET ENORMOUS
PAYDAY.
COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

PAYDAY.
COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES:

COAST GUARD WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES:
THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF

BEHIND THE HEADLINES:
THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF
JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S

THE CITADEL IS THE TITLE OF
JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S
OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S

JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S
OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S
CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK.

OF JOURNALIST SHEREEN EL FEKI'S
CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK.
IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE

CONTROVERSIAL NEW BOOK.
IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE
COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN

IN IT SHE EXPLORES THE
COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB

COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB
CULTURE.

SEXUALITY, ISLAM, AND ARAB
CULTURE.
>> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF

CULTURE.
>> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF
IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE

>> THE CITADEL THAT I SPEAK OF
IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE
BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY

IN THE TITLE AND THROUGHOUT THE
BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY
SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR

BOOK IS THE FACT THAT THE ONLY
SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR
SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB

SOCIALLY ACCEPTED CONTEXT FOR
SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB
WORLD IS MARRIAGE.

SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE ARAB
WORLD IS MARRIAGE.
AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE,

WORLD IS MARRIAGE.
AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE,
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR

AND IT'S NOT ANY OLD MARRIAGE,
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR
FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY

IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOUR
FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY
APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE

FAMILY, IT HAS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY
APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE
REGISTERED BY THE STATE.

APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE
REGISTERED BY THE STATE.
ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS

REGISTERED BY THE STATE.
ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS
CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE

ANYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS
CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE
FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR

CITADEL, THIS IMPREGNABLE
FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR
SHAMEFUL.

FORTRESS, IS FORBIDDEN, OR
SHAMEFUL.
>> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE

SHAMEFUL.
>> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE
GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART

>> EL FEKI SAYS WHILE
GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART
RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE

GOVERNMENTS ARE IN PART
RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE
ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE

RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESSIVE
ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE
OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE

ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, MORE
OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE
CULPRIT IN LIMITING ISLAMIC

 

OFTEN SOCIETAL CONVENTION IS THE
CULPRIT IN LIMITING ISLAMIC
WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

 

WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
>> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP

>> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP
IN MIND IS THAT IT'S

>> THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP
IN MIND IS THAT IT'S
NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS

IN MIND IS THAT IT'S
NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS
WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO

 

NOT JUST LAW THAT CONTROLS
WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO
PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE

WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, THERE'S ALSO
PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE
ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING.

PATRIARCHAL ATTITUDES WHICH ARE
ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING.
AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE

ENGRAINED IN PEOPLE'S THINKING.
AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE
EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL

AND IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE
EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL
MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY

EXAMPLE OF THIS, FEMALE GENITAL
MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY
COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT.

 

MUTILATION, FGM, IS A VERY
COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT.
ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD

COMMON PRACTICE IN EGYPT.
ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD
GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED.

ABOUT 80% OF 15-17 YEAR OLD
GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS

GIRLS HAVE BEEN CIRCUMCISED.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS
THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FGM IS
THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE
DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS,

THAT IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE THE
DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS,
IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS.

DECISION TO CIRCUMCISE GIRLS,
IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS.
>> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY

IT'S MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS.
>> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY
ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED

>> THESE ATTITUDES HAVE LED MANY
ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED
WITH THEIR MARRIAGES.

ARAB WOMEN TO FEEL DISSATISFIED
WITH THEIR MARRIAGES.
>> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN

WITH THEIR MARRIAGES.
>> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN
PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN

>> WHAT I FOUND AMONGST WIVES IN
PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN
IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE

PARTICULAR, WHO WERE VERY OPEN
IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE
OF LONGING.

IN TALKING TO ME, A REAL SENSE
OF LONGING.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE

OF LONGING.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE
EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE,

THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE
EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE,
IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY

EQUALITY, WITHIN THEIR MARRIAGE,
IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY
WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY

IN AND OUTSIDE THE BEDROOM. THEY
WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY
WANTED MORE ROMANCE.

WANTED MORE COMMUNICATION, THEY
WANTED MORE ROMANCE.
AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED

WANTED MORE ROMANCE.
AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED
TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL

AND THESE WOMEN VERY MUCH WANTED
TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL
DESIRES.

TO ARTICULATE THEIR SEXUAL
DESIRES.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY

DESIRES.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY
FELT INHIBITED.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY
FELT INHIBITED.
THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY

FELT INHIBITED.
THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY
WOULD BE JUDGED.

THEY WERE AFRAID OF HOW THEY
WOULD BE JUDGED.
THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR

WOULD BE JUDGED.
THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR
HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU

THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEIR
HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU
KNOW THESE THINGS?

HUSBANDS WOULD ASK, "HOW DO YOU
KNOW THESE THINGS?
ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN?

KNOW THESE THINGS?
ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN?
DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE?

 

ARE YOU A BAD WOMAN?
DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE?
HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE

DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE?
HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE
CITADEL?"

HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE
CITADEL?"
>> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB

 

CITADEL?"
>> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB
WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT

>> ACCORDING TO EL FEKI, ARAB
WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT
THE EXACT SAME THINGS WESTERN

WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT
THE EXACT SAME THINGS WESTERN
WOMEN WOULD WANT.

 

WOMEN WOULD WANT.
>> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET,

>> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET,
MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO

>> THE UNMARRIED WOMEN I MET,
MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO
HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY

MOST OF WHOM DID NOT WANT TO
HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY
BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST

HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, THEY
BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST
THEIR FAITH.

BELIEVED THAT IT WAS AGAINST
THEIR FAITH.
HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED

THEIR FAITH.
HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED
TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER

 

HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ASPIRED
TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER
THEIR OWN BODIES.

TO HAVING MORE CONTROL OVER
THEIR OWN BODIES.
AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE

THEIR OWN BODIES.
AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE
DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT

AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE
DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT
THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE

DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BE IT
THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE
HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE

THE ABILITY TO GO OUT OF THE
HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE
ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN

HOUSE, MOVE AROUND FREELY, TO BE
ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN
>> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES"

 

ABLE TO MOVE INTO THEIR OWN
>> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES"
REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT

 

>> WHILE A "NEW YORK TIMES"
REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT
"ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL

REVIEW OF HER BOOK CALLED IT
"ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL
FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT

"ILL-SUPPORTED OPTIMISM", EL
FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT
BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX

FEKI SAYS SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT
BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX
WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM.

BACKWARDS ATTITUDES TOWARD SEX
WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS

WILL BE EASED IN THE LONG TERM.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS
AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF TABOOS
AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION
AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS

AROUND SEX IN THE ARAB REGION
AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS
PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE

AND THEY ARE CAUSING TREMENDOUS
PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE
MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE

PROBLEMS, WHETHER THEY'RE INSIDE
MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE
OUTSIDE MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE
OUTSIDE MARRIAGE.
WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE

OUTSIDE MARRIAGE.
WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE
ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT

WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT WE
ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT
HOPELESS.

ARE NOT HELPLESS AND WE ARE NOT
HOPELESS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB

HOPELESS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB
REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO

THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ARAB
REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO
CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS.

REGION WHO ARE TRYING TO
CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS.
AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A

CHALLENGE THESE TABOOS.
AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A
SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND

AND I THINK THAT CHANGE IS NOT A
SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND
ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE

SIDESHOW TO THE POLITICAL AND
ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE
HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO

ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REFORM WE'RE
HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO
COME.

HOPING TO SEE IN THE DECADES TO
COME.
FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND

COME.
FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND
JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE

FINDING THIS FREEDOM AND
JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE
BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO

JUSTICE, AND DIGNITY, IN THE
BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO
FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL.

BEDROOM IS GOING TO BE KEY TO
FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL.
THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL

FINDING IT OUTSIDE AS WELL.
THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL
ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE

THE PERSONAL AND THE POLITICAL
ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE
IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES

ARE INTIMATE BEDFELLOWS ANYWHERE
IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES
THE ARAB REGION.

 

IN THE WORLD AND THAT INCLUDES
THE ARAB REGION.
>> WELCOME

THE ARAB REGION.
>> WELCOME
MANAL OMAR

>> WELCOME
MANAL OMAR
, DO YOU AGREE?

MANAL OMAR
, DO YOU AGREE?
>> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE

, DO YOU AGREE?
>> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE
THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING

>> SHE IS RIGHT IN THE SENSE
THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING
IN THE REGION.

THAT THERE IS CHANGES HAPPENING
IN THE REGION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE

IN THE REGION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE
CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL

A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE
CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL
MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR

CHANGE IS GOING BACK TO LIBERAL
MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR
BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO

MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED AS FAR
BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO
REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING

BACK AT 1800s WE HAVE TO
REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY

REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY
OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT

ABOUT ARAB SOCIETY IT'S A VERY
OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT
HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS.

OLD, ANCIENT CIVILIZATION THAT
HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS.
>> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT

HAS HAD PEAKS AND VALLEYS.
>> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT
OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE

>> WHAT ABOUT ARABS BRING A LOT
OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE
YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE

OF WOMEN, FEMINISTS, WHAT HAVE
YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE
AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S

YOU IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE
AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN

AFRAID THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN
WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE

HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND AS WOMEN
WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE
BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW

WHO CAME OUT WERE AT THE
BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW
THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED.

BARRICADES AND PROTESTING NOW
THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED.
HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS?

THEY'RE BEING REPRESSED.
HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS?
>> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL

HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THIS?
>> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL
CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING

>> YOU'RE SEEING A FINAL
CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING
PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE

CONVERSATION WHAT WAS HAPPENING
PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE
ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL

PUBLICLY PARTICULARLY WITH THE
ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL
ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I

ERIC REVOLUTION WHERE WOMEN ALL
ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I
REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT

ACROSS IN EGYPT, LIBYA, I
REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT
WOMEN SHAMED THEM.

REMEMBER LIBYAN POLITICIANS THAT
WOMEN SHAMED THEM.
BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY

WOMEN SHAMED THEM.
BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY
DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

BUT HEN THEY SAW WOMEN THEY
DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED

DECIDED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED
A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES,

YEMEN WHERE WOMEN REALLY PLAYED
A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES,
THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE

A ROLE IN THE REVOLUTION, YES,
THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE
SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE

THEY'RE BEING PUSH THE BUT WE'VE
SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF

SEEN THAT GLOBALLY WHERE THE
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF
WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR

PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LIVES OF
WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU

WOMEN ARE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU
STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO

YOUR ROLE IN WORD WAR II, YOU
STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO
BACK HOME.

STEPPED UP FOR FACTORIES NOW GO
BACK HOME.
YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB

BACK HOME.
YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB
REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE

YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE ARAB
REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN

REVOLUTION BUT WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN
SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK.

HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR WOMEN
SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK.
NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES

SAYING, NO, WE WON'T GO BACK.
NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES
PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR

NOT ONLY DO WE WANT CHANGES
PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR
OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE

PUBLICLY WE WANT CHANGES IN OUR
OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE
READY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OWN PRIVATE LIVES AND WE'RE
READY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK IS PARTICULARLY

READY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK IS PARTICULARLY
INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN

I THINK IS PARTICULARLY
INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN
THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN

INTERESTING, IT'S DIFFERENT IN
THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN
THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO

THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN
THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS

THE '60s SAYING WE'RE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS
FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE

TALK ABOUT IT WITHIN A RELIGIOUS
FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE
AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY

FRAMEWORK AND OUR OWN CULTURE
AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE

AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE
RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL

EXCLUSIVE WE THINK THERE ARE
RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL
EMPOWER US.

RELIGION AND CULTURE WILL
EMPOWER US.
THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE

EMPOWER US.
THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE
CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT

THAT HAS CHANGED DYNAMICS OF THE
CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT
YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME

CONVERSATION COMPARED TO WHAT
YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME
OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST

YOU SAW UNDER SUZANNE OR IN SOME
OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST
MOVEMENTS.

OF THE EARLIER ARAB FEMINIST
MOVEMENTS.
>> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN

MOVEMENTS.
>> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN
WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT

>> WHAT IS THAT IT ARAB WOMEN
WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
WESTERN WOMEN WANT?

WANT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
WESTERN WOMEN WANT?
DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH

WESTERN WOMEN WANT?
DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH
FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT

DO THEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH
FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT
THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO

FREEDOM, WHEN I READ ABOUT WHAT
THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO
BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES

THEY DO WANT THEY STILL WANT TO
BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES
MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN.

BE ABLE TO COVER THEIR BODIES
MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN.
THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS

MORE THAN WESTERN WOMEN.
THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS
SHELTERED BY ISLAM.

THEY WANT TO BE WHAT THEY SEE AS
SHELTERED BY ISLAM.
WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT

SHELTERED BY ISLAM.
WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT
TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS.

WHERE AS WESTERN WOMEN WANT
TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS.
>> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH

TOTAL FREEDOM REGARDLESS.
>> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH
THE AUTHOR THERE.

>> THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH
THE AUTHOR THERE.
IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES,

 

THE AUTHOR THERE.
IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES,
GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT

IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES,
GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT
IT LOOKS DIFFERENT.

GLOBALLY BETWEEN WHAT WOMEN WANT
IT LOOKS DIFFERENT.
BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT

IT LOOKS DIFFERENT.
BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT
TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW

BUT WHAT WOMEN WANT IS THE RIGHT
TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW
MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE

TO CHOOSE HOW THEY DRESS AND HOW
MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE
THEY EXPOSE.

MUCH THEY EXPOSE AND HOW LITTLE
THEY EXPOSE.
WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL

THEY EXPOSE.
WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL
SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO

WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD WILL
SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO
CHOOSE.

SAY, WE WANT THE RIGHT TO
CHOOSE.
WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE

CHOOSE.
WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE
THEIR OWN PRIORITIES.

WOMEN WANT THE RIGHT TO DEFINE
THEIR OWN PRIORITIES.
WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR

THEIR OWN PRIORITIES.
WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR
ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR

WE DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN OR
ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR
PRIORITIES.

ARAB MEN TO TELL US WHAT OUR
PRIORITIES.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED

PRIORITIES.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED
JUST LISTEN TO US.

WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT COVERED
JUST LISTEN TO US.
AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO

JUST LISTEN TO US.
AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO
SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE

AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DO
SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE
OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE

SURVEYS WITH THE U.S. INSTITUTE
OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE
SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS

OF PEACE AND POST CONFLICT WE'RE
SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS
THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY

SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS
THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY
FOCUS ON.

THREE ISSUES THAT WOMEN REALLY
FOCUS ON.
HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT

FOCUS ON.
HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT
AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES.

HEALTH, SECURITY AND EMPLOYMENT
AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES.
THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT

AND EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES.
THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT
WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR.

THOSE TEND TO BE I THINK WHAT
WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR.
IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT

WOMEN GLOBALLY ARE LOOKING FOR.
IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT
THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE

IT MAY NOT LOOK THE SAME, BUT
THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE
IS THE SAME.

THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE
IS THE SAME.
>> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS

IS THE SAME.
>> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS
CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU

>> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS
CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU
NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE

CONVERSATION IS THAT I THINK YOU
NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE
TABLE.

 

NEED TO PUT NEUTRALITY ON THE
TABLE.
IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN

TABLE.
IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN
FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE

IF YOU WANT TO LIBERATE WOMEN
FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE
PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST

FROM BEING A SEXUAL OBJECT, THE
PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST
TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED

PERCEPTION WE HAVE IN THE WEST
TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED
BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY

TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'RE REPRESSED
BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY
AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE

BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SEEN ONLY
AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE
THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS,

AS SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MANY MORE
THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS,
PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN

THINGS, THEY'RE INTELLECTUALS,
PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN
BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE

PROFESSIONALS, WHOLE HUMAN
BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE
GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE

BEINGS, THEY'RE SEEN AS A WHOLE
GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE
POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY.

GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE
POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING

POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING
WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING
WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU
DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL

WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU
DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL
AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO

DON'T WANT WESTERN WOMEN AS WELL
AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO
DO.

AS ARAB MEN TELLING WHAT YOU TO
DO.
THERE'S BEEN THE

DO.
THERE'S BEEN THE
CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN

THERE'S BEEN THE
CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN
WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS

CONTROVERSIAL -- YOU UKRAINIAN
WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS
THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE

WOMEN AND EUROPEAN PROTESTERS
THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE
DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME

THAT NOT NECESSARILY HELPING THE
DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME
THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND

DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S DOING SAME
THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND
OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN

THING, STILL IMPOSING SOME KIND
OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN
MODEL.

OF I AM PEERISTIC TOP DOWN
MODEL.
>> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE

MODEL.
>> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
GREATEST CHALLENGES.

>> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
GREATEST CHALLENGES.
WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE

GREATEST CHALLENGES.
WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE
REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN

WOMEN FEEL FRUSTRATED IN THE
REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN
IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED

REGION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WOMEN
IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED
ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS

IN AFGHANISTAN WEREN'T ALLOWED
ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS
REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE

ACCESS TO EDUCATION THERE WAS
REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE
WAS ISLAM.

REAL OUTCRY BECAUSE THE EXCUSE
WAS ISLAM.
YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN

WAS ISLAM.
YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN
WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO

YET AT SAME TIME WHEN WOMEN
WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO
EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO

WEREN'T BEING ALLOWED ACCESS TO
EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO
COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST.

EDUCATION IN FRANCE THERE WAS NO
COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST.
NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING.

COMMENT FROM THE FEMINIST.
NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING.
AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE

NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING.
AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO

AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO
EDUCATION.

TALKING ABOUT ACTRESS TO
EDUCATION.
WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE

EDUCATION.
WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE
YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE

WHO CARES HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE
YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE
ACCESS.

YOU HAVE TO WEAR TO GET THE
ACCESS.
I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN,

ACCESS.
I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN,
PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP

I THINK THAT IS WHERE WOMEN,
PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP
WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY

PARTICULARLY IN THE AIR RAP
WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY
WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT.

WORLD BEGAN TO FEEL BETRAYED BY
WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL

WESTERN FEMINIST MOVEMENT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL
QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME

>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE FINAL
QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME
LEFT.

QUESTION WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME
LEFT.
WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN

LEFT.
WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN
WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF?

WHY DO YOU CHOOSE IN THE WESTERN
WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF?
>> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST --

 

WORLD TO WEAR A HEAD SCARF?
>> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST --
I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM

>> VERY INTERESTING, MY FIRST --
I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM
COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR

I WORE THE HEAD SCARF MY MOM
COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR
BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO

COMES FROM A VERY SECULAR
BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO
ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS

BACKGROUND SHE DIDN'T SPEAK TO
ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS
CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S

ME FOR SIX MONTHS, THOUGHT I WAS
CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S
RIGHTS.

CLOSING THE DOORS ON WOMEN'S
RIGHTS.
I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST

RIGHTS.
I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST
ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT

I CAME AT IT FROM FEMINIST
ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT
ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH

ANGLE, YOU TALK ABOUT
ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH
CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I

ADVERTISING, I GREW UP IN SOUTH
CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I
WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY

CAROLINA, IT GLORIFIED WOMEN, I
WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY
CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T

WANTED TO FIGHT IT I ACTUALLY
CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T
WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY

CAME AT HIJAB SAYING I DON'T
WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY
LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL

WANT MY BODY OR MY HAIR OR MY
LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL
PRODUCTS.

LOOKS TO BE USED TO SELL
PRODUCTS.
I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF

PRODUCTS.
I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF
PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE,

I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY OF
PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE,
VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO

PROTECTING MY NEM ANYONE TEE,
VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO
BE SOLD.

VALUING BUT NOT ALLOWING IT TO
BE SOLD.
>> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU.

BE SOLD.
>> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU.
FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS

 

>> THAT'S FABULOUS, THANK YOU.
FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS
AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE

FREQUENTLY I SEE WOMEN IN THIS
AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE
FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO

AREA WEARING IT I THINK, YOU'RE
FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO
THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT

FREE NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO
THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT
EXPLANATION.

THAT ANY MORE THAT'S A GREAT
EXPLANATION.
THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF

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THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF
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