1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:07,966 >> BONNIE ERBE: THIS WEEK ONTO 2 00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:10,533 THE CONTRARY, FIRST, HOW ARE 3 00:00:10,533 --> 00:00:11,333 PRESIDENT'S TRUMP'S NEVER 4 00:00:11,333 --> 00:00:12,033 ENDING DEROGATORY DESCRIPTIONS 5 00:00:12,033 --> 00:00:12,100 OF WOMEN AFFECTING WOMEN'S 6 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:13,233 STATUS? 7 00:00:13,233 --> 00:00:16,000 THEN WOMEN OF COLOR AND 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,433 PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICANS PUSH 9 00:00:16,066 --> 00:00:26,266 FOR A PINK AND BLUE WAVE. 10 00:00:26,266 --> 00:00:38,400 >> BONNIE: HELLO, I'M BONNIE 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,233 ERBE. 12 00:00:39,233 --> 00:00:40,200 WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,266 DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL 14 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:43,400 TRENDS FROM DIVERSE 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,466 PERSPECTIVES. 16 00:00:43,466 --> 00:00:46,800 UP FIRST, HORSEFACE, 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,200 POCAHONTAS. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,533 THESE ARE JUST A FEW CHOICE 19 00:00:51,533 --> 00:00:52,200 WORDS FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,400 USED THEM TO REFER TO WOMEN WHO 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,233 OPPOSE HIM. 22 00:00:55,233 --> 00:00:58,466 EARLIER WORDS INCLUDE LOW LIFE, 23 00:00:58,466 --> 00:00:58,533 FAT AND UGLY. 24 00:00:58,533 --> 00:01:01,300 THIS WEEK IN A TWEET, TRUMP 25 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:03,966 CALLED ADULT FILM ACTRESS, 26 00:01:03,966 --> 00:01:04,033 STORMY DANIELS, HORSEFACE AFTER 27 00:01:04,033 --> 00:01:05,700 A DEFAMATION LAWSUIT SHE 28 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,766 BROUGHT AGAINST HIM WAS 29 00:01:07,766 --> 00:01:07,833 DISMISSED. 30 00:01:07,833 --> 00:01:12,066 TRUMP ALSO REFERS TO SENATOR 31 00:01:12,066 --> 00:01:12,133 ELIZABETH WARREN AS POCAHONTAS 32 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:16,266 BECAUSE SHE CLAIMS SOME NATIVE 33 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:19,700 AMERICAN HERITAGE. 34 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:20,433 TRUMP SAID HE WOULD DONATE 35 00:01:20,433 --> 00:01:20,500 $1 MILLION TO HER FAVORITE 36 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:22,000 CHARITY IF SHE PROVED HER 37 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,066 HERITAGE. 38 00:01:22,066 --> 00:01:27,033 BUT THIS WEEK WHEN SHE 39 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:27,100 PRESENTED PROOF OF SOME NATIVE 40 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:28,966 AMERICAN HERITAGE, TRUMP 41 00:01:28,966 --> 00:01:32,000 REFUSED TO MAKE GOOD. 42 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,666 EARLIER HE MOCKED CHRISTINE 43 00:01:32,666 --> 00:01:34,033 BLAZEY FORD AND HER TESTIMONY 44 00:01:34,033 --> 00:01:35,266 AT THE KAVANAUGH HEARING ON A 45 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:35,900 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW LAST 46 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:35,966 WEEKEND. 47 00:01:35,966 --> 00:01:39,633 TRUMP SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE WON 48 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:39,700 THE NOMINATION BUT FOR THESE 49 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:43,366 KINDS OF COMMENTS. 50 00:01:43,366 --> 00:01:44,233 THESE INSULTS DON'T SIT WELL 51 00:01:44,233 --> 00:01:45,000 WITH DEMOCRATIC WOMEN. 52 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,666 BUT JENNIFER LIN, OF REPUBLICAN 53 00:01:47,666 --> 00:01:51,233 WOMEN FOR PROGRESS, SAYS THEY 54 00:01:51,233 --> 00:01:52,333 ALSO OFFEND REPUBLICAN WOMEN. 55 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:53,400 >> JENNIFER: WE HAVE SEEN WHAT 56 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,233 DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE EVEN 57 00:01:55,233 --> 00:01:59,466 THOUGH THEY HOPED FOR THE BEST 58 00:01:59,466 --> 00:02:00,500 WITH DONALD TRUMP AND THEY HAD 59 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:01,366 BEEN VOTING REPUBLICAN ALL 60 00:02:01,366 --> 00:02:02,133 THEIR LIFE WE SAW WHAT HE COULD 61 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:02,200 DO. 62 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,266 AND ESPECIALLY HOW HE'S 63 00:02:04,266 --> 00:02:06,733 DEVALUING WOMEN EVERY TIME 64 00:02:06,733 --> 00:02:09,966 -- EVERY TYPE OF WOMEN. 65 00:02:09,966 --> 00:02:12,266 THAT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE, AND 66 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:14,066 WOMEN ESPECIALLY ARE TIRED OF 67 00:02:14,066 --> 00:02:16,166 IT AND TIRED OF HAVING THE 68 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:16,866 REPUBLICAN PARTY ESPECIALLY NOT 69 00:02:16,866 --> 00:02:18,766 PUSH BACK WHEN HE DOES THINGS 70 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:21,466 LIKE THAT. 71 00:02:21,466 --> 00:02:22,300 >> BONNIE: TRUMP SAYS WOMEN 72 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:24,233 STAND BEHIND HIM. 73 00:02:24,233 --> 00:02:28,666 HE USES A 2016 EXIT POLLS THAT 74 00:02:28,666 --> 00:02:29,366 SHOWS HE WON WITH 52% OF THE 75 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:30,033 WHITE WOMEN'S VOTE COMPARED 76 00:02:30,033 --> 00:02:31,266 WITH 43% FOR HILLARY CLINTON. 77 00:02:31,266 --> 00:02:34,633 BUT NOW COMES A MORE RELIABLE 78 00:02:34,633 --> 00:02:36,066 AND NEW ANALYSIS FROM THE PEW 79 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:36,133 RESEARCH CENTER THAT USED 80 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:37,833 VERIFIED VOTER RECORDS. 81 00:02:37,833 --> 00:02:40,233 PEW FINDS TRUMP STILL SLIGHTLY 82 00:02:40,233 --> 00:02:43,100 AHEAD OF CLINTON AMONG WHITE 83 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:43,766 WOMEN VOTERS BUT THE NUMBERS 84 00:02:43,766 --> 00:02:43,833 ARE DIFFERENT. 85 00:02:43,833 --> 00:02:46,766 47% TO 45%. 86 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:52,333 SO, REPRESENTATIVE EDWARDS, HOW 87 00:02:52,333 --> 00:02:52,400 DOES THE PRESIDENT'S DEMEANING 88 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,233 OF WOMEN IN THIS PUBLIC WAY, IF 89 00:02:55,233 --> 00:02:57,966 AT ALL, AFFECT WOMEN'S STATUS 90 00:02:57,966 --> 00:02:58,033 IN SOCIETY? 91 00:02:58,033 --> 00:03:00,333 >> I THINK INCREASINGLY THE 92 00:03:00,333 --> 00:03:04,266 VIEWS THAT THE PRESIDENT HOLDS 93 00:03:04,266 --> 00:03:06,900 ON WOMEN ARE PRETTY BAKED-IN TO 94 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:06,966 WHERE WOMEN ARE, WHICH IS WHY 95 00:03:06,966 --> 00:03:11,066 YOU SEE MORE REPUBLICAN WOMEN, 96 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:11,133 INDEPENDENT WOMEN, CERTAINLY 97 00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:13,300 DEMOCRATIC WOMEN LEANING TOWARD 98 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:13,833 DEMOCRATS AND AGAINST TRUMP. 99 00:03:13,833 --> 00:03:19,266 >> I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE. 100 00:03:19,266 --> 00:03:21,666 IT IS DISGUSTING AND I DON'T 101 00:03:21,666 --> 00:03:23,566 LIKE HEARING ANY OF IT AND I 102 00:03:23,566 --> 00:03:24,966 THINK IT SHOULD OPEN OUR EYES 103 00:03:24,966 --> 00:03:26,933 TO THE LARGER CONVERSATION IN 104 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:28,166 WHICH PUBLIC FIGURES ARE SAYING 105 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:29,266 ALL SORTS OF TERRIBLE THINGS 106 00:03:29,266 --> 00:03:30,766 AND ACTING IN A BAD WAY TOWARDS 107 00:03:30,766 --> 00:03:31,133 WOMEN. 108 00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:33,300 IT GOES BEYOND PARTY LINES. 109 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:33,366 >> YEAH. 110 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:37,500 I THINK THIS DOES ENABLE SORT 111 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:38,733 OF MEN WHO ALREADY HAVE THIS 112 00:03:38,733 --> 00:03:39,433 KIND OF ATTITUDE TOWARDS WOMEN 113 00:03:39,433 --> 00:03:40,233 TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS KIND OF 114 00:03:40,233 --> 00:03:41,666 LANGUAGE SORT OF FREELY AND 115 00:03:41,666 --> 00:03:41,733 OPENLY. 116 00:03:41,733 --> 00:03:43,033 BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THERE 117 00:03:43,033 --> 00:03:46,900 IS A FLIP SIDE THAT IS HELPING, 118 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,233 I THINK, MORE WOMEN TO HAVE 119 00:03:48,233 --> 00:03:49,066 THIS CONVERSATION WITH MEN 120 00:03:49,066 --> 00:03:52,200 ABOUT HOW HORRIFIC IT IS TO 121 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,166 ALWAYS BE DISCUSSED WITH REGARD 122 00:03:55,166 --> 00:03:55,233 TO OUR APPEARANCE. 123 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:58,533 >> I THINK THAT YOU'RE SEEING, 124 00:03:58,533 --> 00:04:00,266 THANKS TO THE PRESIDENT, A 125 00:04:00,266 --> 00:04:04,800 HARDENING OF DISCOURSE IN THIS 126 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,900 COUNTRY. 127 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:07,333 WHETHER IT RELATES TO WOMEN OR 128 00:04:07,333 --> 00:04:08,033 THINGS HE SAYS ABOUT WOMEN IS 129 00:04:08,033 --> 00:04:08,633 JUST A BY-PRODUCT OF THE 130 00:04:08,633 --> 00:04:09,266 ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN. 131 00:04:09,266 --> 00:04:09,966 I THINK HE'S CONTRIBUTING A 132 00:04:09,966 --> 00:04:11,233 GREAT DEAL TO THE DIMINISHED 133 00:04:11,233 --> 00:04:12,066 ROLE THAT WOMEN ARE SEEING IN 134 00:04:12,066 --> 00:04:12,133 CULTURE. 135 00:04:12,133 --> 00:04:13,033 >> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK IT IS 136 00:04:13,033 --> 00:04:15,666 AFFECTING UNEDUCATED WOMEN MORE 137 00:04:15,666 --> 00:04:19,000 THAN HIGH SCHOOL OR 138 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,333 LESS-EDUCATED WOMEN AS OPPOSED 139 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:24,400 TO COLLEGE-EDUCATED WOMEN OR 140 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,733 ARE THE LESS-EDUCATED, AS HE 141 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:31,133 PUTS IT -- I LOVE LESS-EDUCATED 142 00:04:31,133 --> 00:04:31,200 PEOPLE. 143 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,766 ARE THEY GETTING HIT BY THIS 144 00:04:34,766 --> 00:04:34,833 MORE? 145 00:04:34,833 --> 00:04:36,100 >> I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN HIS 146 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:42,333 SUPPORT FALLS MORE ALONG 147 00:04:42,333 --> 00:04:43,000 DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, NOT 148 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,400 JUST GENDER. 149 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,233 IT IS ON EDUCATION AND RURAL 150 00:04:44,233 --> 00:04:48,233 VERSUS URBAN AND IT IS INCOME 151 00:04:48,233 --> 00:04:49,266 LEVEL, RIGHT. 152 00:04:49,266 --> 00:04:52,133 GENDER IS SORT OF A BY-PRODUCT 153 00:04:52,133 --> 00:04:52,200 OF ALL THAT. 154 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:59,633 I DO THINK THAT SORT OF -- 155 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:00,333 >> BONNIE ERBE: A BY-PRODUCT 156 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:01,233 OF ALL THAT MEANS? 157 00:05:01,233 --> 00:05:03,966 >> EDUCATION AND OTHER DEMOCRAT 158 00:05:03,966 --> 00:05:04,800 GRAPHIC VARIABLES OPPOSED TO 159 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,000 THIS IS A WOMAN VERSUS MALE 160 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,433 KIND OF THING. 161 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:08,900 WE KNOW THERE IS RACIAL 162 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:09,266 DIVISION. 163 00:05:09,266 --> 00:05:11,266 WE KNOW THERE IS EDUCATION 164 00:05:11,266 --> 00:05:12,400 DIVISIONS BUT ULTIMATELY YES, 165 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,300 LOWER EDUCATION, LOWER INCOME 166 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:15,533 WOMEN SUPPORT TRUMP MORE BUT I 167 00:05:15,533 --> 00:05:17,900 THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT 168 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,400 TIE DO THINK THAT THERE IS A 169 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,466 COURSENNING OF OUR RHETORIC. 170 00:05:21,466 --> 00:05:22,766 I THINK IT IS HORRIBLE. 171 00:05:22,766 --> 00:05:25,100 I THINK IT IS HELPFUL IF WE ALL 172 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:26,666 STEP BACK AND SAY THERE HAVE 173 00:05:26,666 --> 00:05:27,700 BEEN A LOT OF DEMOCRATS THIS 174 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,500 YEAR AND REPUBLICANS THIS YEAR 175 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:30,800 WHO HAVE BEEN FOUND THEMSELVES 176 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,300 IN TROUBLE AND A LOT OF HOT 177 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:33,966 WATER BECAUSE OF SEXUAL 178 00:05:33,966 --> 00:05:35,300 ASSAULT, BECAUSE OF SEXUAL 179 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:36,266 HARASSMENT. 180 00:05:36,266 --> 00:05:38,400 WOMEN WHO HAVE STOOD BY MALE 181 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,466 CHIEF'S OF STAFF THEY KNEW WERE 182 00:05:40,466 --> 00:05:40,800 DOING THINGS. 183 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,266 PERHAPS IT IS A GOOD 184 00:05:42,266 --> 00:05:42,533 OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE NOW TO 185 00:05:42,533 --> 00:05:45,366 SAY, HEY, WE'RE IN 2018. 186 00:05:45,366 --> 00:05:47,166 IT IS TIME TO HAVE A DIFFERENT 187 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:48,200 CONVERSATION ABOUT WOMEN. 188 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,800 >> WELL, I DO THINK THE 189 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,933 DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFTS IN THE 190 00:05:51,933 --> 00:05:55,666 COUNTRY ACTUALLY DON'T PORTRAY 191 00:05:55,666 --> 00:05:56,766 WELL FOR THE TRUMPS OF THE 192 00:05:56,766 --> 00:05:57,266 WORLD. 193 00:05:57,266 --> 00:05:58,466 IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NOW 194 00:05:58,466 --> 00:05:59,266 BUT I THINK OVER THIS PERIOD OF 195 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:01,433 TIME, MORE YOUNG PEOPLE JUST 196 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:02,233 DON'T THINK LIKE THAT. 197 00:06:02,233 --> 00:06:04,833 I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BEGIN 198 00:06:04,833 --> 00:06:06,800 TO WEIGH IN ON OUR POLITICS AND 199 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,033 WHAT WE HOPE IS THAT THIS KIND 200 00:06:10,033 --> 00:06:12,433 OF LANGUAGE DOESN'T TRANSLATE 201 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:14,600 INTO THE KINDS OF CONCERNS THAT 202 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,100 WOMEN WHO HAVE LESS EDUCATION 203 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,800 MAYBE IN RURAL COMMUNITIES HAVE 204 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,400 IN THEIR WORKPLACES AND IN 205 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,800 THEIR -- IN THEIR HOMES. 206 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,866 WE DON'T WANT IT TO STICK. 207 00:06:23,866 --> 00:06:26,000 >> BONNIEYOU LOOK AT THE POLLS ALL THE 208 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,500 TIME. 209 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:28,200 HOW MUCH OF IT IS STICKING 210 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,533 ALREADY? 211 00:06:28,533 --> 00:06:31,566 >> WELL, I THINK -- 212 00:06:31,566 --> 00:06:32,266 >> BONNIE ERBE: AND HOW MUCH 213 00:06:32,266 --> 00:06:34,500 OF IT MAY HAVE HELPED CREATE 214 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:35,700 THE ME TOO MOVEMENT BECAUSE THE 215 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:36,600 WOMEN WHO HEARD IT AND DIDN'T 216 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,166 WANT TO PUT UP WITH IT SAID 217 00:06:40,166 --> 00:06:40,700 WAIT A SECOND. 218 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,066 THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. 219 00:06:42,066 --> 00:06:43,533 >> PRICE. 220 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:45,200 I DO THINK THERE IS A SORT OF 221 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,500 GENERATIONAL CULTURAL MOMENT OF 222 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:47,266 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. 223 00:06:47,266 --> 00:06:52,066 BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE 224 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:54,266 SHOULDN'T FORGET THAT OUR SORT 225 00:06:54,266 --> 00:06:55,266 OF ENTERTAINMENT CULTURE -- 226 00:06:55,266 --> 00:06:55,966 >> THANK YOU. 227 00:06:55,966 --> 00:06:58,066 >> HAS ALSO GONE THROUGH THIS 228 00:06:58,066 --> 00:07:01,233 UNBELIEVABLE COARSENING. 229 00:07:01,233 --> 00:07:04,833 IF YOU WATCH ANY OF THE NEWS 230 00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:06,366 MANUFACTURED -- BUT THERE IS A 231 00:07:06,366 --> 00:07:06,733 MANUFACTURED REALITY SHOW, 232 00:07:06,733 --> 00:07:08,433 RIGHT, AS THOUGH IT IS 233 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:09,200 AUTHENTIC BUT IT IS NOT. 234 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,433 IT IS ALL SCRIPTED. 235 00:07:11,433 --> 00:07:13,400 MOST OF IT INVOLVES THIS KIND 236 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,633 OF COARSE LANGUAGE, THESE KINDS 237 00:07:15,633 --> 00:07:17,166 OF INSULTS AND TO A CERTAIN 238 00:07:17,166 --> 00:07:18,300 DEGREE THE PRESIDENT IS MORE 239 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:21,466 REFLECTIVE OF THAT THAN I WOULD 240 00:07:21,466 --> 00:07:23,333 ARGUE THAT HE'S IN FACT LEADING 241 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:23,600 IT. 242 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,200 THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE HEAR 243 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,100 HIS RHETORIC MUCH MORE THAN WE 244 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,600 HEAR SOME OF THAT OTHER 245 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,033 ENTERTAINMENT. 246 00:07:32,033 --> 00:07:33,066 >> I DON'T MEAN TO JUMP IN BUT 247 00:07:33,066 --> 00:07:34,966 I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME 248 00:07:34,966 --> 00:07:35,266 THING. 249 00:07:35,266 --> 00:07:36,666 I THINK SOME OF US HERE IN 250 00:07:36,666 --> 00:07:37,600 WASHINGTON WHO MAYBE ARE NOT 251 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,433 LISTENING TO THE TOP CHARTS AND 252 00:07:39,433 --> 00:07:40,500 WATCHING, YOU KNOW, EVERY KIND 253 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,200 OF TV SHOW OUT THERE ARE SORT 254 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,166 OF SURPRISED WHEN WE HEAR THE 255 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:45,000 SPECIALTY SPEAK THIS WAY BUT I 256 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,400 HAVE PUT ON MUSIC WITH MY 257 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,466 CHILDREN AND TURNED IT OFF AND 258 00:07:47,466 --> 00:07:49,400 THOUGHT OH MY GOODNESS, THIS IS 259 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,500 WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE HEARING 260 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:54,700 ALL THE TIME SO I THINK THAT 261 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:56,166 WE'RE FEELING MORE SURPRISED AS 262 00:07:56,166 --> 00:07:58,466 WE LIVE IN A LITTLE BUBBLE IN 263 00:07:58,466 --> 00:07:59,433 WASHINGTON AND THAT IS NOT 264 00:07:59,433 --> 00:08:02,033 UNFORTUNATELY WHAT A LOT OF 265 00:08:02,033 --> 00:08:02,500 AMERICANS HEAR. 266 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:03,166 >> BONNIE ERBE: BUT DO YOU 267 00:08:03,166 --> 00:08:04,000 THINK IT IS AFFECTING WOMEN -- 268 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,866 WE HAVE READ THERE ARE LOTS OF 269 00:08:06,866 --> 00:08:07,633 DIVORCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED 270 00:08:07,633 --> 00:08:10,333 OVER THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY WITH 271 00:08:10,333 --> 00:08:12,633 THE MEN SUPPORTING THEM AND 272 00:08:12,633 --> 00:08:14,533 WOMEN BEING ENTIRELY OFFENDED 273 00:08:14,533 --> 00:08:17,233 BY THIS GUY. 274 00:08:17,233 --> 00:08:20,633 DO YOU THINK IT'S BEING IN 275 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:23,133 CULCATED BY SOME WOMEN WHO ARE 276 00:08:23,133 --> 00:08:25,533 SAYING, THAT'S OKAY OR THEIR 277 00:08:25,533 --> 00:08:27,700 HUSBANDS LAUGH IT OFF OR 278 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:29,333 BOYFRIENDS OR WHATEVER SO THEY 279 00:08:29,333 --> 00:08:29,766 LAUGH IT OFF. 280 00:08:29,766 --> 00:08:30,033 OF. 281 00:08:30,033 --> 00:08:30,866 >> I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING 282 00:08:30,866 --> 00:08:31,600 TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND I 283 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,700 THINK IN THE SEGMENT IT WAS 284 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:36,300 POINTED OUT AGAIN THE 285 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:37,400 ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE DEMOCRATIC 286 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,766 WOMEN ARE FURIOUS ABOUT HIS 287 00:08:39,766 --> 00:08:41,200 BEHAVIOR HIS RHETORIC AND 288 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,700 COMMENTARY. 289 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:43,500 THERE IS A LARGE PORTION OF 290 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:44,233 REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT FEEL THAT 291 00:08:44,233 --> 00:08:44,600 WAY, TOO. 292 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,766 MAYBE BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE DC 293 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:48,200 BUBBLE I FEEL THAT WAY BUT I 294 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,566 TALK TO MANY REPUBLICAN WOMEN 295 00:08:50,566 --> 00:08:52,800 THAT FIND THE RHETORIC 296 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,900 ABHORRENT AND WE BECOME IMMUNE 297 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:57,500 TO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND 298 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:58,966 WE'RE EXPOSED TO IT U NOT 299 00:08:58,966 --> 00:09:00,966 HEALTHY FOR CULCATED IS IT YOUR 300 00:09:00,966 --> 00:09:01,966 OR WOMEN AND POLITICS TO THINK 301 00:09:01,966 --> 00:09:03,466 THAT WE'RE IN A PLACE HE SAID 302 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:04,233 HORSEFACE. 303 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:05,533 NAY. 304 00:09:05,533 --> 00:09:05,600 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 305 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,266 THAT IS THE PRESIDENT WE HAVE 306 00:09:08,266 --> 00:09:09,633 LETTED ELECTED HIM AND HE'S 307 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:09,700 COMING OUT WHEN IT COMES TO 308 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:12,533 ISSUES LIKE THIS. 309 00:09:12,533 --> 00:09:13,133 >> BONNIE ERBE: RIGHT. 310 00:09:13,133 --> 00:09:14,766 BUT DO YOU THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, 311 00:09:14,766 --> 00:09:18,633 ANY WOMEN IN THE WORKPLACE ARE 312 00:09:18,633 --> 00:09:22,266 THEY SUFFERING MORE ABUSE BY 313 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:22,533 THEIR MALE BOSSES BECAUSE OF 314 00:09:22,533 --> 00:09:24,333 THE PRESIDENT'S ATTITUDE? 315 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:27,033 HAS IT BLED INTO SOCIETY THAT 316 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:27,300 WAY? 317 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,233 >> THAT IS THE PART WE REALLY 318 00:09:29,233 --> 00:09:30,533 DON'T QUITE KNOW YET BUT I 319 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:32,233 THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS 320 00:09:32,233 --> 00:09:33,966 GOING TO THAT ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 321 00:09:33,966 --> 00:09:35,233 WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT THAT 322 00:09:35,233 --> 00:09:37,200 GENDER GAP REALLY IS. 323 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,566 I BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S 324 00:09:39,566 --> 00:09:40,533 LANGUAGE HIS CONSTANT DEMEANING 325 00:09:40,533 --> 00:09:43,300 OF WOMEN AND DECLARATIVE 326 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:44,900 SENTENCE THE PRESIDENT IS A 327 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:44,966 MASSAGENIST AND GOING TO PLAY 328 00:09:44,966 --> 00:09:47,266 OUT IN THE THIS ELECTION AND 329 00:09:47,266 --> 00:09:48,800 WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF IT. 330 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,666 >> BONNIE ERBE: LENTOUS KNOW 331 00:09:49,666 --> 00:09:52,033 WHAT YOU THINK. 332 00:09:52,033 --> 00:09:53,200 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER 333 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,266 @BONNIEERBE. 334 00:09:53,266 --> 00:09:54,933 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN'S 335 00:09:54,933 --> 00:09:55,000 MOVEMENTS BEFORE THE MIDTERMS. 336 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,633 THERE'S THE INAUGURAL SHE THE 337 00:09:59,633 --> 00:09:59,700 PEOPLE SUMMIT BILLED AS THE 338 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,400 FIRST NATIONAL GATHERING FOR 339 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,333 WOMEN OF COLOR INVOLVED IN 340 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:04,900 PROGRESSIVE POLITICS. 341 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:04,966 AND THERE'S REPUBLICAN WOMEN 342 00:10:04,966 --> 00:10:06,066 FOR PROGRESS. 343 00:10:06,066 --> 00:10:11,233 WITH THE 2018 MIDTERMS AROUND 344 00:10:11,233 --> 00:10:12,100 THE CORNER, EXPERTS AGREE THAT 345 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:12,166 DEMOCRATS CAN ONLY ACHIEVE 346 00:10:12,166 --> 00:10:15,166 THEIR DREAM OF A WAVE ELECTION 347 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:15,800 IF THEY ACTIVATE THESE KEY 348 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:15,866 VOTING BLOCS. 349 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:25,300 >> WE ARE THE KING AND QUEEN 350 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:25,366 MAKERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 351 00:10:25,366 --> 00:10:28,733 THAT MEANS THAT NO ONE IS GOING 352 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:29,433 TO BE WINNING A HOUSE SEAT, A 353 00:10:29,433 --> 00:10:30,100 GOVERNOR STATE WIDE SEAT, A 354 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:31,233 SENATE SEAT, OR WINNING A 355 00:10:31,233 --> 00:10:36,333 PRESIDENCY FOR THE DEMOCRATS 356 00:10:36,333 --> 00:10:36,400 WITHOUT THE ENTHUSIASTIC, 357 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,866 CONSISTENT, SUSTAINED, AND HIGH 358 00:10:38,866 --> 00:10:42,966 VOTE TURNOUT OF WOMEN OF COLOR. 359 00:10:42,966 --> 00:10:43,033 WE AS A GROUP ARE THE MOST 360 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:43,866 PROGRESSIVE AT THE POLLS AND 361 00:10:43,866 --> 00:10:48,366 BLACK WOMEN AS A SUBSET OF 362 00:10:48,366 --> 00:10:49,033 WOMEN OF COLOR ARE THE MOST 363 00:10:49,033 --> 00:10:49,100 LOYAL DEMOCRATS. 364 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:52,166 THAT ALL MATTERS AND IT IS TIME 365 00:10:52,166 --> 00:10:52,966 THAT THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATIC 366 00:10:52,966 --> 00:10:54,733 PARTY AND FRANKLY THE COUNTRY 367 00:10:54,733 --> 00:10:54,800 RECOGNIZE THAT. 368 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,300 >> BONNIE: AIMEE ALLISON HOSTS 369 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:00,266 THE PODCAST DEMOCRACY IN COLOR 370 00:11:00,266 --> 00:11:01,033 AND FOUNDED SHE THE PEOPLE. 371 00:11:01,033 --> 00:11:07,166 >> AIMEE: THE STRATEGY IS TO 372 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:07,733 EMPOWER A MULTIRACIAL 373 00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:08,466 PROGRESSIVE COALITION, WE CALL 374 00:11:08,466 --> 00:11:09,166 IT THE NEW AMERICAN MAJORITY. 375 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:09,833 THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF ALL 376 00:11:09,833 --> 00:11:10,166 VOTERS. 377 00:11:10,166 --> 00:11:11,133 IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT 378 00:11:11,133 --> 00:11:12,366 ELECTED AND RE-ELECTED BARACK 379 00:11:12,366 --> 00:11:12,433 OBAMA. 380 00:11:12,433 --> 00:11:15,500 MOST RECENTLY I FOUNDED SHE THE 381 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:16,233 PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON WOMEN OF 382 00:11:16,233 --> 00:11:21,166 COLOR WHO ARE THE COUNTRY'S 383 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,266 STRONGEST PROGRESSIVES AND THE 384 00:11:22,266 --> 00:11:26,633 CORE OF THE NEW AMERICAN 385 00:11:26,633 --> 00:11:27,000 MAJORITY. 386 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,600 >> BONNIE: JENNIFER LIM 387 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,333 CO-FOUNDED REPUBLICAN WOMEN FOR 388 00:11:28,333 --> 00:11:29,033 PROGRESS, FORMERLY REPUBLICAN 389 00:11:29,033 --> 00:11:29,100 WOMEN FOR HILLARY. 390 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:31,066 >> JENNIFER: WE ACTUALLY HAVE 391 00:11:31,066 --> 00:11:31,133 OUR WOMEN TO WATCH LIST HERE, 392 00:11:31,133 --> 00:11:32,733 WHERE WE'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING 393 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:35,166 DIFFERENT WOMEN, REPUBLICAN 394 00:11:35,166 --> 00:11:36,233 WOMEN WHO ARE RUNNING FOR 395 00:11:36,233 --> 00:11:37,233 OFFICE, AND SO MANY OF THEM ARE 396 00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:37,766 MINORITIES WHICH IS AMAZING, 397 00:11:37,766 --> 00:11:40,200 BUT THE SAD PART IS, A LOT OF 398 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 MINORITIES DON'T FEEL AT HOME 399 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:42,866 IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR 400 00:11:42,866 --> 00:11:43,966 OBVIOUS REASONS. 401 00:11:43,966 --> 00:11:48,833 AND SO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE 402 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:49,600 THEM FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICE IS 403 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,200 IMPORTANT IN THIS ELECTION. 404 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,466 >> LINN BELIEVES THERE IS NOT 405 00:11:55,466 --> 00:11:56,966 MUCH ROOM IN THE CURRENT 406 00:11:56,966 --> 00:11:58,366 REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR WOMEN AND 407 00:11:58,366 --> 00:11:59,266 THE ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST TO 408 00:11:59,266 --> 00:11:59,933 THEM. 409 00:11:59,933 --> 00:12:02,633 THE ORGANIZATION IS RUNNING ADS 410 00:12:02,633 --> 00:12:03,933 IN 10 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS 411 00:12:03,933 --> 00:12:05,400 SUPPORTING DEMOCRATS, NOT 412 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,500 REPUBLICANTION. 413 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:08,433 >> WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZING 414 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:09,300 PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE 415 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:10,300 DEMOCRATIC PARTY ESPECIALLY 416 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:11,566 RIGHT NOW. 417 00:12:11,566 --> 00:12:11,800 >> 418 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:11,866 >> BONNIE ERBE: ALSO THE 419 00:12:11,866 --> 00:12:13,900 COUNTRY'S POLITICS BECOME MORE 420 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:17,300 POLARIZED ALONG RACIAL AND 421 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:18,000 GENDER LINES CONCERNS GROW 422 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,500 ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION. 423 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:20,900 DEMOCRATS ACCUSE REPUBLICANS OF 424 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:23,300 RELYING ON TACTICS THAT MAKE IT 425 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,733 HARDER TO VOTE AND PERSONALLING 426 00:12:25,733 --> 00:12:28,366 VOTER ROLL TO SAY MAINTAIN 427 00:12:28,366 --> 00:12:29,766 THEIR MAJORITY IN CONGRESS EVEN 428 00:12:29,766 --> 00:12:31,600 AGENCIES THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF 429 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,800 AMERICA CONTINUE TO CHANGE. 430 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,200 ONE CASE OF ALLEGED VOTER 431 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,733 SUPPRESSION MAKING NATIONAL 432 00:12:37,733 --> 00:12:39,200 HEADLINES IS IN GEORGIA 433 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,600 INVOLVING STACY ABRAMS WHO 434 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,400 COULD BECOME THE FIRST FEMALE 435 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,133 AFRICAN AMERICAN GOVERNOR. 436 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:46,966 >> YOU HAVE STACY ABRAMS WHO IS 437 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:50,666 RUNNING A FANTASTIC CAMPAIGN 438 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:51,633 THAT BRINGS MORE PEOPLE -- YOU 439 00:12:51,633 --> 00:12:52,766 KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT 440 00:12:52,766 --> 00:12:55,466 FREQUENT VOTERS, BRINGS THEM 441 00:12:55,466 --> 00:12:57,700 INTO THE CAMPAIGNING AND BRINGS 442 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:58,766 THEM INTO THE DEMOCRATIC 443 00:12:58,766 --> 00:13:00,033 PROCESS. 444 00:13:00,033 --> 00:13:01,600 SHE'S DEEPLY INSPIRING TO 445 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,766 VOTERS OF COLOR AND GEORGIA IS 446 00:13:04,766 --> 00:13:06,066 MAJORITY VOTERS OF COLOR. 447 00:13:06,066 --> 00:13:08,333 AND THEN YOU HAVE BRIAN KEMP. 448 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:09,366 BRIAN KEMP IS THE CURRENT 449 00:13:09,366 --> 00:13:13,233 SECRETARY OF STATE AND 450 00:13:13,233 --> 00:13:15,166 BRIAN KEMP IS THE CURRENT 451 00:13:15,166 --> 00:13:15,900 SECRETARY OF STATE AND HE HAS A 452 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:16,633 LONG HISTORY OF TAKING PEOPLE 453 00:13:16,633 --> 00:13:17,166 OFF THE VOTER ROLLS. 454 00:13:17,166 --> 00:13:17,866 LITERALLY TAKING PEOPLE OFF. 455 00:13:17,866 --> 00:13:18,700 THERE WAS A RECENT, LAST WEEK, 456 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:19,300 A STUDY THAT CAME OUT THAT 457 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:19,966 SHOWED THAT OVER THE LIFE OF 458 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:24,233 HIS TIME AS SECRETARY OF STATE 459 00:13:24,233 --> 00:13:24,966 HE'S REMOVED OVER A MILLION 460 00:13:24,966 --> 00:13:27,666 PEOPLE FROM THE VOTER ROLLS. 461 00:13:27,666 --> 00:13:27,733 >> BONNIE: REPUBLICANS SAY 462 00:13:27,733 --> 00:13:30,833 THEY ARE ONLY TAKING MORE 463 00:13:30,833 --> 00:13:31,500 PRECAUTIONS TO PREVENT VOTER 464 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:31,566 FRAUD. 465 00:13:31,566 --> 00:13:34,433 BUT DEMOCRATS CALL VOTER FRAUD 466 00:13:34,433 --> 00:13:34,500 A MYTH. 467 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:36,233 REPUBLICAN WOMEN FOR PROGRESS 468 00:13:36,233 --> 00:13:37,266 SAY THEY'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT 469 00:13:37,266 --> 00:13:40,466 THE ABRAMS CANDIDACY. 470 00:13:40,466 --> 00:13:40,533 WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO VOTER 471 00:13:40,533 --> 00:13:41,533 SUPRESSION. 472 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:47,900 BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT 473 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:49,700 CANDIDATES LIKE STACY ABRAMS 474 00:13:49,700 --> 00:13:52,066 AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN GET 475 00:13:52,066 --> 00:13:55,400 OUT TO VOTE IN ALL OF THESE 476 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,466 CRITICAL ELECTIONS AND, YOU 477 00:13:56,466 --> 00:13:57,666 KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT HER I 478 00:13:57,666 --> 00:13:59,900 JUST THINK ABOUT THIS NEW BRAND 479 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,166 OF CANNED THAT WE'RE SEEING. 480 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:05,533 I THINK SHE IS SO EMBLEMMATIC 481 00:14:05,533 --> 00:14:08,333 HOW TIRED PEOPLE ARE OF THESE 482 00:14:08,333 --> 00:14:08,400 POLITICIANS WHO ARE ONLY 483 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,633 FOCUSING ON PARTY IDEOLOGY AND 484 00:14:11,633 --> 00:14:13,133 SOMEBODY LIKE ABRAMS REALLY 485 00:14:13,133 --> 00:14:16,266 BRINGS A FRESH LOOK. 486 00:14:16,266 --> 00:14:17,433 >> BONNIE: ALLISON SAYS BEYOND 487 00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:18,133 WINNING OR LOSING RACES, 2018 488 00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:18,866 HAS BEEN A GREAT YEAR FOR WOMEN 489 00:14:18,866 --> 00:14:18,933 OF COLOR IN TERMS OF GAINING 490 00:14:18,933 --> 00:14:23,666 INFLUENCE AND CREATING THE 491 00:14:23,666 --> 00:14:23,733 INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO AFFECT 492 00:14:23,733 --> 00:14:25,500 THE FUTURE. 493 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:29,133 >> I HAVE DECLARED 2018 THE 494 00:14:29,133 --> 00:14:29,200 WOMEN OF COLOR. 495 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,200 IT IS TRULY THE YEAR WOMEN OF 496 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,266 COLOR CAME INTO WHAT I CALL 497 00:14:34,266 --> 00:14:35,033 THEIR FIERCE AND LOVING 498 00:14:35,033 --> 00:14:36,400 LEADERSHIP AND COLLECTIVE 499 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,300 POWER. 500 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:39,400 >> SO SJEN, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN 501 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,600 CONSULTANT. 502 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,233 DO YOU THINK SHE'S RIGHT? 503 00:14:41,233 --> 00:14:42,966 >> I THINK THE CHALLENGE THAT 504 00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:43,800 WE FACE AND I'LL BE HONEST 505 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:44,466 PERSONALLY I DON'T LIKE TO BE 506 00:14:44,466 --> 00:14:46,400 THE ONLY ONE IN THE ROOM A LOT 507 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,500 OF TIMES AND I'LL SAY AS A 508 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:50,800 REPUBLICAN WOMAN WHO IS 509 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,100 MINORITY AND AFRICAN I FIND IT 510 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:53,466 CHALLENGING. 511 00:14:53,466 --> 00:14:56,666 I THINK OUR PARTY HAS SOME WORK 512 00:14:56,666 --> 00:14:58,000 TO DO AND FRANKLY IN THIS 513 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,566 ENVIRONMENT WHAT SCARES ME MORE 514 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,066 THE ENVIRONMENT, THE RHETORIC 515 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:03,000 AND DIALOGUE YOU SEMIWHAT IS 516 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,366 HAPPENING. 517 00:15:03,366 --> 00:15:04,866 IN ARKANSAS WITH FRENCH HILL 518 00:15:04,866 --> 00:15:06,333 AND THE RACIAL TRIPS THAT ARE 519 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:08,433 USED, DON'T FACILITATE YOU LOT 520 00:15:08,433 --> 00:15:09,433 OF INTEREST IN RECRUITING 521 00:15:09,433 --> 00:15:11,366 FEMALE REPUBLICAN WOMEN WHO ARE 522 00:15:11,366 --> 00:15:14,533 MINORITIES TO BE PART OF THE 523 00:15:14,533 --> 00:15:15,033 REPUBLICAN PARTY E 524 00:15:15,033 --> 00:15:15,700 >> BONNIE ERBE: WHAT DO YOU 525 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,166 SEE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE IS 526 00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:18,233 THIS THE YEAR OF THE WOMEN OF 527 00:15:18,233 --> 00:15:19,133 COLOR? 528 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:20,033 >> ABSOLUTELY U I THINK IT IS. 529 00:15:20,033 --> 00:15:22,033 I THINK THE HARD PART FOR ME IS 530 00:15:22,033 --> 00:15:23,433 UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE STILL 531 00:15:23,433 --> 00:15:25,800 BEHIND AS REPUBLICAN TO SORT OF 532 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,433 CATCH UP TO THAT CONVERSATION. 533 00:15:27,433 --> 00:15:29,433 I THINK THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY 534 00:15:29,433 --> 00:15:30,866 REASONS WHY I'M A REPUBLICAN 535 00:15:30,866 --> 00:15:31,633 THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY 536 00:15:31,633 --> 00:15:32,366 VALUES. 537 00:15:32,366 --> 00:15:35,333 BUT THE FACT THAT 4% OF BLACK 538 00:15:35,333 --> 00:15:36,633 WOMEN VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP 539 00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:38,466 TELLS YOU ABOUT THE WORK WE 540 00:15:38,466 --> 00:15:39,333 HAVE TO DO TO GET MORE 541 00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:40,100 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN TO 542 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:42,900 ENGAGE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 543 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:42,966 AND NOT QUITE GET TO WHERE WE 544 00:15:42,966 --> 00:15:45,733 NEED TO GO IF THE ENVIRONMENT 545 00:15:45,733 --> 00:15:47,166 DOESN'T FACILITATE. 546 00:15:47,166 --> 00:15:47,866 >> BONNIE ERBE: THE WORK YOU 547 00:15:47,866 --> 00:15:48,733 HAVE TO DO WHAT IS THE 548 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:50,833 REPUBLICAN PARTY AT THIS POINT 549 00:15:50,833 --> 00:15:52,200 BECAUSE EVER SINCE THE BIG DAYS 550 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,400 OF LEE -- AT WATER BACK IN THE 551 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,700 WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT THE 80S OR 552 00:15:57,700 --> 00:15:58,700 SOMETHING THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE 553 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:03,800 BEEN TRYING TO REBECOME THE 554 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,866 PARTY OF LINCOLN AND HAVE A LOT 555 00:16:04,866 --> 00:16:07,033 OF PERSONS OF COLOR UNDER THE 556 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:07,100 TENT. 557 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,966 BUT UNDER TRUMP IS ANY WORK 558 00:16:08,966 --> 00:16:12,300 BEING DONE TO -- YOU KNOW, ARE 559 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:12,766 TO ADVANCE MINORITIES AND GET 560 00:16:12,766 --> 00:16:14,833 MORE OF THEM INTO THE PARTY? 561 00:16:14,833 --> 00:16:16,000 >> I TELL PEOPLE WHEN I SPEAK 562 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,333 IT IS LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL. 563 00:16:19,333 --> 00:16:21,200 I THINK IT IS GETTING MORE IN 564 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,833 CONGRESS AND FEDERAL OFFICE AND 565 00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:24,133 ENGAGE IN POLICY U I THINK THE 566 00:16:24,133 --> 00:16:25,633 NEXT STEP IS GETTING MORE 567 00:16:25,633 --> 00:16:26,100 MINORITY WOMEN. 568 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:27,433 I THINK WE HAD STRONG 569 00:16:27,433 --> 00:16:30,033 CANDIDATES ON THIS CYCLE BUT ON 570 00:16:30,033 --> 00:16:31,833 REPUBLICAN SIDE THERE IS MONEY 571 00:16:31,833 --> 00:16:33,333 AND MOTIVATION FACTOR AND WHEN 572 00:16:33,333 --> 00:16:35,733 IT COMES TO MINORITIES, WOMEN 573 00:16:35,733 --> 00:16:36,800 CANDIDATES ZERO -- WE HAD 574 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,733 SEVERAL THAT AN BUT NOWHERE ON 575 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:40,700 THE INTENSITY THAT WE HAVE -- 576 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:41,433 >> WHEN YOU SAY THERE IS A 577 00:16:41,433 --> 00:16:42,833 MONEY FACTOR THE PRESIDENT 578 00:16:42,833 --> 00:16:45,666 ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK HIS WAR 579 00:16:45,666 --> 00:16:49,233 CHEST FOR HIS SECOND ELECTION 580 00:16:49,233 --> 00:16:50,300 IS RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN. 581 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:52,500 IS $100 MILLION. 582 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:55,900 DWARFING EVERYBODY ELSE'S AT 583 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:58,666 THIS POINT BY MULTITUDES OF 584 00:16:58,666 --> 00:16:59,100 FIVE AND 10. 585 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:02,366 SO IS HE GIVING ANY OF THAT 586 00:17:02,366 --> 00:17:05,366 MONEY TO GET REPUBLICAN WOMEN 587 00:17:05,366 --> 00:17:06,566 OF COLOR ELECTED? 588 00:17:06,566 --> 00:17:08,466 >> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT COMES OUT 589 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:09,233 OF YOUR MOUTH. 590 00:17:09,233 --> 00:17:11,566 MARTHA ROBEY IS A GREAT 591 00:17:11,566 --> 00:17:12,333 EXAMPLE. 592 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:14,033 SHE'S NAVAL A MINORITY BUT 593 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,566 SOMEBODY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THE 594 00:17:15,566 --> 00:17:16,033 PRESIDENT AND WHEN SHE GOT INTO 595 00:17:16,033 --> 00:17:17,666 POLITICAL TROUBLE REALIZED SHE 596 00:17:17,666 --> 00:17:19,366 NEEDED A LIFELINE. 597 00:17:19,366 --> 00:17:21,000 THAT MONEY CAME FLOWING IN AND 598 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,566 SHE SAID VERY NICE THINGS ABOUT 599 00:17:22,566 --> 00:17:23,300 THE PRESIDENT. 600 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:24,366 SOME OF THE WOMEN I MET WITH 601 00:17:24,366 --> 00:17:26,066 THE CYCLE ON THE REPUBLICAN 602 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:27,433 SIDE I THINK IT IS HARD TO NOT 603 00:17:27,433 --> 00:17:28,966 BE RUBBER STAMPED BY THE 604 00:17:28,966 --> 00:17:32,000 PRESIDENT AND NOT GET RESOURCES 605 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,366 IN RETURN. 606 00:17:32,366 --> 00:17:32,433 >> THERE ARE TWO THINGS. 607 00:17:32,433 --> 00:17:36,366 ONE WOMEN WON'T ACHIEVE PARITY 608 00:17:36,366 --> 00:17:36,433 UNLESS REPUBLICAN ONE WOMEN 609 00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:39,566 COME MORE IN THE FOLD. 610 00:17:39,566 --> 00:17:40,233 YOU CANNOT HAVE A SITUATION 611 00:17:40,233 --> 00:17:43,433 WHERE THE ONLY WOMEN THAT ARE 612 00:17:43,433 --> 00:17:45,833 ESSENTIALLY REPRESENTING ALL OF 613 00:17:45,833 --> 00:17:47,966 THE COUNTRY ARE DEMOCRATIC 614 00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:48,733 WOMEN THAT. 615 00:17:48,733 --> 00:17:49,233 JUST WON'T WORK. 616 00:17:49,233 --> 00:17:51,533 >> BUT DO YOU THING -- WILL 617 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:52,633 2018 BE THE YEAR OF THE WOMAN 618 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:54,100 OF COLOR AS -- 619 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:56,133 >> ABSOLUTELY, DO I THINK THAT 620 00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:57,566 DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE AN 621 00:17:57,566 --> 00:17:58,266 EXTRAORDINARY JOB RECRUITING 622 00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:59,733 AND FUNDING THEIR CANDIDATES 623 00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:00,666 AND HELPING CANDIDATES GET 624 00:18:00,666 --> 00:18:04,166 THROUGH THE PRIMARY AND, ARE WE 625 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:05,300 GOING TO SEE MORE WOMEN AND 626 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,466 MORE WOMEN OF COLOR IN THE 627 00:18:06,466 --> 00:18:08,066 DEMOCRATIC PARTY? 628 00:18:08,066 --> 00:18:08,466 ABSOLUTELY. 629 00:18:08,466 --> 00:18:11,166 BUT THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING OF A 630 00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:14,800 FUNCTION OF MIDTERM ELECTIONS. 631 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,266 WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT'S 632 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:17,366 PARTY USUALLY DOES WORSE THAN 633 00:18:17,366 --> 00:18:19,700 THE CHALLENGEER PARTY. 634 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:20,933 THAT SAID I WANT TO BRING UP 635 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:23,000 SOME OF THE WORK THAT MICHELLE 636 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,900 SWEARS AS DONE AT GEORGETOWN. 637 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:26,333 SHE HAS REALLY FOUND THAT ONE 638 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:28,133 OF THE CHALLENGES FOR 639 00:18:28,133 --> 00:18:30,466 REPUBLICAN WOMEN IS THAT 640 00:18:30,466 --> 00:18:33,300 REPUBLICAN WOMEN TEND NOT TO 641 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:34,766 DONATE TO OTHER REPUBLICAN 642 00:18:34,766 --> 00:18:36,466 WOMEN IN THE SAME KIND OF WAY 643 00:18:36,466 --> 00:18:38,866 THAT DEMOCRATIC WOMEN DONATE TO 644 00:18:38,866 --> 00:18:39,433 DEMOCRATIC WOMEN. 645 00:18:39,433 --> 00:18:41,433 SO A LOT OF DEMOCRATIC WOMEN 646 00:18:41,433 --> 00:18:43,100 SAY, GOSH, I WANT TO GIVE 647 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,566 MONEY. 648 00:18:44,566 --> 00:18:47,300 YOU KNOW, TO OTHER WOMEN. 649 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:48,033 REPUBLICAN WOMEN SAY I WANT TO 650 00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:48,100 GIVE TO THE BEST CANDIDATE. 651 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:50,733 THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A 652 00:18:50,733 --> 00:18:51,033 WOMAN. 653 00:18:51,033 --> 00:18:52,233 >> WELL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 654 00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:54,433 WOMEN OF COLOR BECAUSE I THINK 655 00:18:54,433 --> 00:18:55,000 THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT 656 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:02,966 YOU SEE THAT 96 PERCENT OF 657 00:19:02,966 --> 00:19:03,033 BLACK WOMEN VOTED FOR HILLARY 658 00:19:03,033 --> 00:19:05,600 CLINTON BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATIC 659 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,233 PARTY SHARES THEIR VALUES. 660 00:19:06,233 --> 00:19:07,700 THE REALITY IS YOU LOOK ACROSS 661 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:08,866 THE BOARD AT THE WOMEN OF COLOR 662 00:19:08,866 --> 00:19:10,566 WHO ARE RUNNING AGAINST THIS 663 00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:10,633 ELECTION, GOD LOVE THEM. 664 00:19:10,633 --> 00:19:12,666 IT WASN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE 665 00:19:12,666 --> 00:19:15,633 SUPPORTED IN THEIR PRIMARY 666 00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:17,166 ELECTIONS BY THE DEMOCRATIC 667 00:19:17,166 --> 00:19:17,466 PARTY. 668 00:19:17,466 --> 00:19:18,400 I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF WORK 669 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,166 THE DEMOCRATIC HAS TO DO AND IN 670 00:19:21,166 --> 00:19:23,000 EXFOR THE VOTES IN -- 671 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,933 >> BONNIE ERBE: WHAT, FUNDING 672 00:19:24,933 --> 00:19:25,433 THEIR CAMPAIGNS? 673 00:19:25,433 --> 00:19:26,066 >> FUNDING THEIR CAMPAIGNS BUT 674 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:28,166 EXCHANGING THE VOTES THE BLACK 675 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:29,566 WOMEN, WOMEN OF COLOR, HAS TO 676 00:19:29,566 --> 00:19:32,466 COME POWER AND REAL LEADERSHIP 677 00:19:32,466 --> 00:19:34,033 AND A PLACE AT THE 678 00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:35,033 DECISION-MAKING TABLE AND I 679 00:19:35,033 --> 00:19:36,266 THINK THAT IS WHERE 2018 IS 680 00:19:36,266 --> 00:19:37,533 GOING TO BE A REAL DIFFERENCE 681 00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:39,466 MAKER. 682 00:19:39,466 --> 00:19:40,166 >> BONNIE ERBE: IF THEY RETAKE 683 00:19:40,166 --> 00:19:43,200 THE HOW ELSE AND IF AS WIDELY 684 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,666 EXPECTED SPEAKER BELCH NANCY 685 00:19:46,666 --> 00:19:52,266 PROCEED -- PELOSI STEPS DOWN 686 00:19:52,266 --> 00:19:53,600 AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION, THERE 687 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,933 IS ANY CHANCE, ANY WOMEN OF 688 00:19:54,933 --> 00:19:57,433 COLOR IN THE HOUSE WHO COULD 689 00:19:57,433 --> 00:19:58,833 BECOME SPEAKER AND REPLACE HER? 690 00:19:58,833 --> 00:20:01,566 >> I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE 691 00:20:01,566 --> 00:20:02,266 PREDICTIONS ON THAT RIGHT NOW 692 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:02,333 BECAUSE I THINK THE FIELD FOR 693 00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:04,733 THAT KIND OF RACE IS WIDE OPEN. 694 00:20:04,733 --> 00:20:06,933 WHAT I WILL SAY IS WOMEN IN 695 00:20:06,933 --> 00:20:09,033 PARTICULAR AND PARTICULARLY 696 00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:11,100 ELECTED WOMEN ARE DEMANDING A 697 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:12,033 SEAT AT THE DECISION-MAKING 698 00:20:12,033 --> 00:20:12,100 TABLE. 699 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:14,433 NOT JUST FOR VOTES AND NOT JUST 700 00:20:14,433 --> 00:20:17,433 TO FILL OUT AN EMPTY CHAIR AT 701 00:20:17,433 --> 00:20:18,833 THE TABLE BUT REALLY TO MAKE 702 00:20:18,833 --> 00:20:19,300 DECISIONS. 703 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:21,100 AND I THINK THERE IS WHERE THE 704 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:22,566 VOICES OF WOMEN OF COLOR ARE 705 00:20:22,566 --> 00:20:24,066 MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THIS 706 00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:24,133 ELECTION CYCLE. 707 00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:26,300 SOMEBODY LIKE STACY ABRAMS. 708 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:29,300 STACEY ABRAMS WAS NOT THE 709 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:30,666 CHOSEN CANDIDATE IN GEORGIA. 710 00:20:30,666 --> 00:20:32,333 SHE PUSHED THROUGH AND SHE RAN 711 00:20:32,333 --> 00:20:32,666 ANYWAY. 712 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:33,600 SHE WAS NOT RECRUITED. 713 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,166 SHE RAN HERSELF. 714 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:37,300 THAT IS TRUE FOR SO MANY OTHER 715 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:40,200 WOMEN OF COLOR AND PARTICULARLY 716 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,000 BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE RUNNING IN 717 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,466 THIS ELECTION CYCLE. 718 00:20:42,466 --> 00:20:44,600 I THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO 719 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,600 BE THE ONES TO SAY HERE WHAT IS 720 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,200 OUR LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. 721 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,466 LET THEM DEFINE IT. 722 00:20:49,466 --> 00:20:51,400 >> AND I THINK TO BOTH OF YOUR 723 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,933 POINTS, THIS MAY BE SOME OF 724 00:20:53,933 --> 00:20:55,000 THIS WAVE MAY BE SORT OF A 725 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,633 DIRECT RESPONSE TO TRUMP'S 726 00:20:57,633 --> 00:20:58,033 PRESIDENCY. 727 00:20:58,033 --> 00:20:58,100 BUT IT WOULD NOT BE THIS MUCH 728 00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:01,366 OF A WAVE HAD THE DEMOCRATS NOT 729 00:21:01,366 --> 00:21:04,433 HAD THIS FOUNDATION FOR YEARS 730 00:21:04,433 --> 00:21:05,166 IN WHICH IT IS VERY CLEAR AND I 731 00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:05,233 HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS ON THE 732 00:21:05,233 --> 00:21:07,633 SHOW FOR MANY YEARS, DEMOCRATS 733 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:09,033 TAKE GENDER DIFFERENCES FAR 734 00:21:09,033 --> 00:21:11,033 MORE SERIOUSLY THAN REPUBLICANS 735 00:21:11,033 --> 00:21:12,533 AND I THINK THE STUDY YOU POINT 736 00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:14,633 TO OUT OF GEORGETOWN WAS 737 00:21:14,633 --> 00:21:15,933 TELLING. 738 00:21:15,933 --> 00:21:16,566 >> BONNIE ERBE: THERE WAS 739 00:21:16,566 --> 00:21:17,866 ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME OUT THAT 740 00:21:17,866 --> 00:21:19,833 SHOWED WHEN DID WOMEN ARE ON A 741 00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:20,733 PANEL LIKE THE SENATE JUDICIARY 742 00:21:20,733 --> 00:21:24,133 COMMITTEE THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT 743 00:21:24,133 --> 00:21:24,900 WHATEVER THE RESULT IS THAT 744 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:27,600 COMES OUT OF IT LIKE THE 745 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,166 SUPREME COURT, THEY BELIEVE 746 00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:30,166 THAT IT IS MORE FAIR. 747 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:31,066 AND MORE TRUSTWORTHY. 748 00:21:31,066 --> 00:21:31,400 >> RIGHT. 749 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,333 I THINK THIS IS WHERE I HAVE 750 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:34,900 BEEN TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MY 751 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:38,300 SORT OF RIGHT OF CENTER FRIENDS 752 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,900 AND COLLEAGUES TO THINK ABOUT 753 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:40,700 THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. 754 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,700 YOUR GENDER DOESN'T HAVE TO 755 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:44,300 MAKE UP YOUR ENTIRE IDENTITY 756 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:44,866 BUT IS PART OF OUR IDENTITY. 757 00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:47,400 IT IS PART OF HOW I THINK ABOUT 758 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,833 POLICY BECAUSE I'M A WIFE AND A 759 00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:51,500 MOTHER AND A WOMAN. 760 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:52,600 I THINK BEGINNING TO THINK 761 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,500 ABOUT THAT IS SO HELPFUL. 762 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,533 AS WE GET MORE WOMEN IN THE 763 00:21:56,533 --> 00:21:58,533 FOLD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER 764 00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:00,600 OF THE SPECIESEDDED EXEXTREMES. 765 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,600 RIGHT NOW WHEN WE THINK ABOUT 766 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,866 WOMEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE WE 767 00:22:02,866 --> 00:22:04,766 HAVE HILLARY CLINTON ON ONE END 768 00:22:04,766 --> 00:22:05,366 AND ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE WOMEN 769 00:22:05,366 --> 00:22:07,166 ON THE OTHER END. 770 00:22:07,166 --> 00:22:08,433 WE DON'T THINK ABOUT MEN THAT 771 00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:09,333 WAY. 772 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,133 WE DON'T THINK OF JUST THE 773 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:11,500 EXTREMES. 774 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:12,833 WE HAVE ALL THE MEN IN THE 775 00:22:12,833 --> 00:22:13,166 MIDDLE. 776 00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:14,333 WE NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE 777 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,466 WE HAVE MORE WOMEN BRINGING 778 00:22:15,466 --> 00:22:17,133 THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND A MORE 779 00:22:17,133 --> 00:22:18,633 MODERATE TONE. 780 00:22:18,633 --> 00:22:19,333 >> BONNIE ERBE: BUT GETTING 781 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:21,300 AWAY FOR A SECOND FROM WOMEN OF 782 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:22,433 COLOR I SMILED WHEN YOU WERE 783 00:22:22,433 --> 00:22:23,233 SAYING THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T 784 00:22:23,233 --> 00:22:25,733 GO WITHOUT NOTICE THAT SUSAN 785 00:22:25,733 --> 00:22:27,733 CALMLINS WHEN SHE MADE HER VERY 786 00:22:27,733 --> 00:22:30,166 -- WHAT A LOT OF WOMEN SEE, 787 00:22:30,166 --> 00:22:30,933 PROGRESSIVE WOMEN CERTAINLY SEE 788 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:33,633 AS AN ANTI-WOMEN SPEECH WHEN 789 00:22:33,633 --> 00:22:34,733 SHE ENDORSED -- SAID SHE WOULD 790 00:22:34,733 --> 00:22:37,133 VOTE FOR KAVANAUGH. 791 00:22:35,633 --> 00:22:37,200 SHE WAS 792 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,333 ED BY TWO WHITE FEMALE 793 00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:42,400 REPUBLICAN SENATORS. 794 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,300 SO THE VISUALS WERE THERE FOR 795 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:48,433 -- FOR AND REPUBLICANS WERE 796 00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:49,233 CLEARLY SENSITIVE TO IT. 797 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:49,900 >> RIGHT. 798 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:52,500 I THINK REPUBLICANS IN SOME 799 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,600 RESPECT HAVE GROWN QUITE A LOT 800 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,000 AND OTHER -- AS WE TALKED ABOUT 801 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,700 A FEW MINUTES AGO WE HAVE A LOT 802 00:22:57,700 --> 00:22:58,333 OF WORK TO DO. 803 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,266 I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF 804 00:23:00,266 --> 00:23:00,633 REPUBLICANS TURNED OFF BY THE 805 00:23:00,633 --> 00:23:03,166 KIND OF LANGUAGE WE HEAR OUT OF 806 00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,233 THE WHITE HOUSE BUT HOPEFULLY 807 00:23:05,233 --> 00:23:06,866 WE CAN THINK OF THE INDIVIDUALS 808 00:23:06,866 --> 00:23:08,266 AND NOT JUST THANK YOU PARTY. 809 00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:08,766 >> QUICKLY. 810 00:23:08,766 --> 00:23:12,066 WOMEN OF COLOR IS MORE THAN 811 00:23:12,066 --> 00:23:12,133 JUST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN. 812 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:15,066 THERE ARE ASIAN WOMEN. 813 00:23:15,066 --> 00:23:18,566 THEY RANGE FROM TODAY'S CHINESE 814 00:23:18,566 --> 00:23:20,766 AND INDIAN IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE 815 00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:22,666 THE MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS OF 816 00:23:22,666 --> 00:23:23,133 ASIAN DESCENT AND BACK -- GOING 817 00:23:23,133 --> 00:23:27,533 BACK TO VIETNAM WHEN THEY WERE 818 00:23:27,533 --> 00:23:28,533 THE MAJORITY OF ASIANS COMING 819 00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:32,400 INTO THIS COUNTRY AFTER THE 820 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,466 WAR. 821 00:23:32,466 --> 00:23:35,733 ARE RELATIONSHIPS JELLING IN 822 00:23:35,733 --> 00:23:36,933 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BETWEEN 823 00:23:36,933 --> 00:23:38,633 WOMEN OF DIFFERENT COLORS? 824 00:23:38,633 --> 00:23:41,100 >> OH, I THINK 825 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:41,733 >> BONNIE ERBE: WITH EACH 826 00:23:41,733 --> 00:23:42,033 OTHER? 827 00:23:42,033 --> 00:23:44,133 >> I THINK ABSOLUTELY AND IN 828 00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:45,266 THIS UPCOMING CONGRESS WE'RE 829 00:23:45,266 --> 00:23:47,133 GOING TO SEE TWO MORE MUSLIM 830 00:23:47,133 --> 00:23:48,233 WOMEN JOIN THE CONGRESS. 831 00:23:48,233 --> 00:23:51,200 WE WILL LIKELY SEE TWO MORE 832 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,100 NATIVE WOMEN WHO WILL JOIN THE 833 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:52,166 CONGRESS. 834 00:23:52,166 --> 00:23:54,333 THIS REALLY DOES, YOU KNOW, AT 835 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:55,733 LEAST ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE 836 00:23:55,733 --> 00:23:59,133 THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF REAL 837 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:00,766 DIVERSITY WITHIN WOMEN OF COLOR 838 00:24:00,766 --> 00:24:03,166 AND I THINK THAT -- AND THEY 839 00:24:03,166 --> 00:24:03,533 WORK TOGETHER. 840 00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:04,966 THEY ORGANIZE TOGETHER. 841 00:24:04,966 --> 00:24:07,966 AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD 842 00:24:07,966 --> 00:24:10,466 THING BECAUSE THE LAST THING 843 00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:11,766 THAT WE NEED IS TO HAVE, YOU 844 00:24:11,766 --> 00:24:13,466 KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPONENTS 845 00:24:13,466 --> 00:24:15,666 TO ALL OF THESE ISSUES SORT OF 846 00:24:15,666 --> 00:24:18,366 SPLINTERING EVEN AMONG WOMEN OF 847 00:24:18,366 --> 00:24:19,466 COLOR. 848 00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:20,100 >> BONNIE ERBE: JENNIFER. 849 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:20,833 >>THE PART OF THE REASON WHY I 850 00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:21,966 DO THIS SHOW NOT ONLY BECAUSE I 851 00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:24,100 THINK THAT YOU'RE AN AMAZING 852 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:24,866 HOST AND I LOVE THE DIVERSE 853 00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:27,133 PERSPECTIVES THAT TO THE 854 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:27,966 CONTRARY PROVIDES, I THINK THAT 855 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,266 PEOPLE NEED TO SEE MORE WOMEN 856 00:24:29,266 --> 00:24:32,166 OF COLOR WHO ARE REPUBLICANS ON 857 00:24:32,166 --> 00:24:35,200 TELEVISION SEEMING RATIONAL NOT 858 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,533 IN THE CORNER BOXES ON CNN. 859 00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:38,433 YOU ALSO MADE A POINT ABOUT 860 00:24:38,433 --> 00:24:40,666 SUSAN COLLINS AND SUGGEST 861 00:24:40,666 --> 00:24:42,366 BEHIND THE DIAL AND TINA SMITH 862 00:24:42,366 --> 00:24:44,266 AND MORE CAP AT THAT AND I SAY 863 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:45,433 MEW GOAL AND HOPE IS THAT WE 864 00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:47,566 HAVE MORE REPUBLICAN WOMEN WHO 865 00:24:47,566 --> 00:24:48,800 ARE MINORITIES AT THE TABLE AND 866 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,133 IN THE CONVERSATION SO THAT 867 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:52,433 WHEN PEOPLE LOOK ON TV THEY 868 00:24:52,433 --> 00:24:56,300 DON'T SEE COMALA HARRIS BUT 869 00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:57,733 REPUBLICAN WOMEN OF THE SAME 870 00:24:57,733 --> 00:24:58,300 MINDSET AND IDEOLOGY. 871 00:24:58,300 --> 00:24:59,033 >> BONNIE ERBE: THAT IS IT FOR 872 00:24:59,033 --> 00:24:59,466 THIS EDITION. 873 00:24:59,466 --> 00:25:01,366 PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER AND 874 00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:05,366 VISIT OUR WEBSITE, PBS 875 00:25:05,366 --> 00:25:08,100 .ORG/CONTRARY AND WHETHER OR 876 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,466 NOT YOU THINK TO THE CONTRARY, 877 00:25:08,833 --> 00:25:27,100 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. FOR A TRANSCRIPT OR TO SEE AN 878 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,800 ON-LINE VERSION OF THEY EPISODE 879 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,866 OF TO THE CONTRARY, 880 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:34,633 CONTRARY," PLEASE VISIT OUR PBS 881 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:35,033 WEBSITE AT: 882 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:35,100 PBS.ORG/TOTHECONTRARY. 883 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,966 >> BE MORE.