1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,636 (female announcer)   Production funding   for "Sports Files" is 2 00:00:02,636 --> 00:00:04,338 made possible in part by... 3 00:00:04,338 --> 00:00:07,608 (male narrator)   Infiniti of Memphis   has moved to Germantown 4 00:00:07,608 --> 00:00:10,244 road just half mile north of   Wolfchase Galleria and is proud 5 00:00:10,244 --> 00:00:13,347 to support WKNO for its quality   broadcasting and service 6 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:14,414 to our community. 7 00:00:14,414 --> 00:00:16,617 Quality and service --   No wonder Infiniti of Memphis 8 00:00:16,617 --> 00:00:19,620 feels at home on WKNO. 9 00:00:27,527 --> 00:00:30,430 - My guest today on Sports Files is former New England Patriots 10 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:33,901 and Tennessee Volunteers star wide receiver Stanley Morgan. 11 00:00:33,901 --> 00:00:51,818 [theme music] 12 00:00:51,818 --> 00:00:54,554 Later in the show details of Marc Gasol's new deal with the 13 00:00:54,554 --> 00:00:57,257 Grizzlies and we'll hear from Mississippi State first year 14 00:00:57,257 --> 00:00:59,293 Head Basketball Coach Ben Howland, 15 00:00:59,293 --> 00:01:02,663 but we begin with one of the Tennessee Vols all-time greats. 16 00:01:02,663 --> 00:01:05,165 Wide receiver Stanley Morgan starred for the big orange from 17 00:01:05,165 --> 00:01:08,235 1973 through 1976. 18 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:11,538 In an era when the passing game was far from the first option, 19 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:14,574 the South Carolina native would go on to produce a stellar four 20 00:01:14,574 --> 00:01:19,212 year career in which he produced over 4,600 all-purpose yards -- 21 00:01:19,212 --> 00:01:22,049 A Vols record that still stands today. 22 00:01:22,049 --> 00:01:25,285 Stanley would then move onto the NFL as a first round selection 23 00:01:25,285 --> 00:01:26,920 of the New England Patriots. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,191 He would play there from 1977 through 1989 before finishing 25 00:01:31,191 --> 00:01:34,594 his career in 1990 with the Indianapolis Colts. 26 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:38,565 In his stellar 14 year career in the NFL he would amass more than 27 00:01:38,565 --> 00:01:42,869 10,000 receiving yards, make four Pro Bowl Appearances and 28 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:46,039 lead the league in yards per reception three times. 29 00:01:46,039 --> 00:01:48,909 In 1985 he would play in Super Bowl 20, 30 00:01:48,909 --> 00:01:52,045 but the Patriots were no match for the monsters of the midway, 31 00:01:52,045 --> 00:01:53,680 the Chicago Bears. 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,350 Today, Stanley Morgan joins me to talk about his experiences 33 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:58,518 with both the Vols and the Patriots, 34 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:02,022 and tells us about the unusual circumstances that led him 35 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:03,123 to Knoxville. 36 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:06,927 Plus his thoughts on Bob Kraft, deflate gate and today's pass 37 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:08,428 happy NFL. 38 00:02:08,428 --> 00:02:11,164 And it's all next on Sports Files. 39 00:02:11,164 --> 00:02:22,075 [theme music] 40 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:23,043 Stanley, great to see you again. 41 00:02:23,043 --> 00:02:24,044 Thanks for being on the show. 42 00:02:24,044 --> 00:02:25,045 - It's good to be here. 43 00:02:25,045 --> 00:02:26,046 - Appreciate that. 44 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:28,148 What are you up to these days, you and the family? 45 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:31,451 - Uh, being a retired grandpa, spending time with my grandkids 46 00:02:31,451 --> 00:02:34,821 and playing as much golf as I can get. 47 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:36,990 - How well are you playing that game of golf, 48 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:39,526 which we know and love   and hate at the same time? 49 00:02:39,526 --> 00:02:43,030 - I can hold my own. 50 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:44,031 I'll put it that way. 51 00:02:44,031 --> 00:02:47,968 - Do you get to play in events that are associated with 52 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:50,570 Tennessee, your Alma Mater, and the New England Patriots or the 53 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:51,571 National Football League? 54 00:02:51,571 --> 00:02:53,974 Or is it just going around with buddies and playing on a 55 00:02:53,974 --> 00:02:54,975 Saturday or Sunday? 56 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:58,879 - No, I play in the NFL tournaments. 57 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,548 They have an NFL alumni association. 58 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:06,553 And we get to go around and play in these tournaments and raise 59 00:03:06,553 --> 00:03:09,623 money for different charities. 60 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:12,492 My wife and I put on a golf tournament for the University of 61 00:03:12,492 --> 00:03:15,662 Tennessee where we raise scholarship money for the 62 00:03:15,662 --> 00:03:16,997 student athletes there. 63 00:03:16,997 --> 00:03:17,998 - Very nice. 64 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:18,999 That's the Alex Haley. 65 00:03:18,999 --> 00:03:21,001 - And we call it the Alex Haley. 66 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:23,003 They gave us permission to use his name. 67 00:03:23,003 --> 00:03:25,272 So, we got a chance to meet with his people. 68 00:03:25,272 --> 00:03:27,240 Yeah. 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,042 So, everything worked out good. 70 00:03:29,042 --> 00:03:32,212 - Well, besides spending time with the grandchildren, 71 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:34,514 obviously your wife, playing golf, 72 00:03:34,514 --> 00:03:36,516 this funciton you talked about at Tennessee, 73 00:03:36,516 --> 00:03:40,220 how often do you get to do some things associated with your 74 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:41,221 alma mater? 75 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:43,223 How often do you get to go back to see games? 76 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:45,492 Or how often do you get to watch the Patriots play? 77 00:03:45,492 --> 00:03:49,196 - We get back to Knoxville probably two, three 78 00:03:49,196 --> 00:03:51,231 times a year. 79 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:53,233 We go back for the football games. 80 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:55,902 We definitely go back for homecoming. 81 00:03:55,902 --> 00:04:01,241 And my wife goes to the game and I go play golf. 82 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:02,242 - Really? 83 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,778 - It's a little reversal there. 84 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:08,648 So, I've had my little share of football. 85 00:04:08,648 --> 00:04:10,650 So, I watch it every now and then. 86 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:11,651 I keep up with Tennessee. 87 00:04:11,651 --> 00:04:12,919 I keep up with the Patriots. 88 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:18,725 And Bob Kraft does a good job in bringing the old guys back in 89 00:04:18,725 --> 00:04:19,726 every now and then. 90 00:04:19,726 --> 00:04:22,562 So, I get a chance to go up there and visit with those guys 91 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:27,801 and walk around New England and stick my chest out a little bit. 92 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:28,802 - Why not? 93 00:04:28,802 --> 00:04:31,004 You're a member of the Patriots Hall of Fame. 94 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:34,074 The pride that you get when you see the Patriots do well. 95 00:04:34,074 --> 00:04:36,243 Winning another Super Bowl this past year. 96 00:04:36,243 --> 00:04:40,180 Stephen Gostkowski, a kicker from the University of Memphis 97 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:42,182 who helped that team win the Super Bowl. 98 00:04:42,182 --> 00:04:44,417 How much pride do you have when you see your teams do well? 99 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:45,418 - I love it. 100 00:04:45,418 --> 00:04:47,954 We go over to some friends of ours and they have a little 101 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:49,589 Super Bowl party. 102 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:54,561 So, decked out in my little Patriot gear. 103 00:04:54,561 --> 00:04:58,999 And when they win, it's even special. 104 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:04,104 You know, I just wouldn't mind catching a few balls from Brady. 105 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:05,105 - That would be pretty good. 106 00:05:05,105 --> 00:05:07,107 - Oh, yeah because they are throwing the ball 107 00:05:07,107 --> 00:05:08,108 left and right. 108 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:10,210 And you know back when I was playing, 109 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:11,344 we were a running team. 110 00:05:11,344 --> 00:05:13,346 We didn't throw the ball that much. 111 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:16,216 - You were a running team yet you had over 1,000 yard 112 00:05:16,216 --> 00:05:18,218 receiving four different seasons. 113 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:19,886 You were four time pro bowler. 114 00:05:19,886 --> 00:05:22,622 You have lots of huge numbers. 115 00:05:22,622 --> 00:05:26,927 So, how much better would they be today with what we just said? 116 00:05:26,927 --> 00:05:29,196 If you played in an era of throwing the ball. 117 00:05:29,196 --> 00:05:31,464 - Oh, I would love it. 118 00:05:31,464 --> 00:05:36,603 Because the one thing that I really had back in those days 119 00:05:36,603 --> 00:05:37,637 was speed. 120 00:05:37,637 --> 00:05:42,409 So, I could definitely push the defense a little deep. 121 00:05:42,409 --> 00:05:46,846 - What do you think the biggest difference is between players 122 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:49,883 today and players during your era? 123 00:05:49,883 --> 00:05:52,219 And I'm not talking about contracts and how much they're 124 00:05:52,219 --> 00:05:53,620 making and that. 125 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:56,256 On the field, what's the biggest difference? 126 00:05:56,256 --> 00:06:00,527 - I would say the guys are probably more athletic than we 127 00:06:00,527 --> 00:06:03,563 were, especially in different positions. 128 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:09,402 I think they are bigger, stronger, faster. 129 00:06:09,402 --> 00:06:12,305 - Why do you think it is that way? 130 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:15,575 Is that just like evolution or is that.. 131 00:06:15,575 --> 00:06:19,479 - I think you just look at the way they're growing up now. 132 00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:25,018 When we grew up, we didn't have a product that you can go and 133 00:06:25,018 --> 00:06:28,622 buy that will help you gain weight. 134 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:30,957 You go on the internet now, you can find 135 00:06:30,957 --> 00:06:32,359 all these weight products. 136 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:36,296 So, the kids are developing faster than we did, 137 00:06:36,296 --> 00:06:37,964 I would say. 138 00:06:37,964 --> 00:06:40,900 - You're talking about the legal ones, right? 139 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:41,901 [chuckles] 140 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:42,903 - Don't put words. 141 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:43,904 [laughter] 142 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:44,904 - Right, right, right. 143 00:06:44,904 --> 00:06:45,905 Making sure. 144 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:46,906 - Yeah, yeah. 145 00:06:46,906 --> 00:06:49,109 But I think that's the biggest difference right now. 146 00:06:49,109 --> 00:06:51,811 - The Patriots always seem to be in the middle 147 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:53,313 of some controversy. 148 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:55,315 I don't know what it is. 149 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:56,316 Deflate Gate. 150 00:06:56,316 --> 00:06:58,485 When you first heard about it, what were your thoughts? 151 00:06:58,485 --> 00:07:00,654 - Here we go again. 152 00:07:00,654 --> 00:07:03,623 You know, everybody hates a winner. 153 00:07:03,623 --> 00:07:07,727 And I think Belicheck has done a tremendous job up there. 154 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:10,764 You hear Deflate Gate. 155 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:13,900 I'm like, one or two ounces.. 156 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:16,002 (Greg)   Do you think   it makes a difference? 157 00:07:16,002 --> 00:07:17,537 - I don't see how. 158 00:07:17,537 --> 00:07:18,838 I just don't. 159 00:07:18,838 --> 00:07:24,844 And as a receiver, you never think about something like that. 160 00:07:24,844 --> 00:07:25,945 You just catch football. 161 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:28,948 You don't -- Oh, this is a little soft. 162 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:30,150 You know. 163 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:32,152 - You wouldn't be able to tell, would you? 164 00:07:32,152 --> 00:07:34,154 - Really deflated you probably could. 165 00:07:34,154 --> 00:07:39,759 But one or two pounds, I don't see the difference. 166 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,995 - This is just a guess on your part. 167 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:43,396 It's a guess on everybody's part right now. 168 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:46,366 But do you believe Roger Goodell after meeting with Tom Brady 169 00:07:46,366 --> 00:07:50,270 will reduce his four game suspension? 170 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:51,738 - Well, I think he will. 171 00:07:51,738 --> 00:07:56,776 I thin a four game suspension is too much for what they're saying 172 00:07:56,776 --> 00:07:58,378 that he did. 173 00:07:58,378 --> 00:08:02,816 And if he did that, then I think the Super Bowl proved different. 174 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:05,485 That, you know, all football is different, 175 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:06,486 the same. 176 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:11,891 And I think it'll probably be reduced to about two games. 177 00:08:11,891 --> 00:08:12,892 - You played for them. 178 00:08:12,892 --> 00:08:14,894 Of course, you're going to have a little bit of a biased. 179 00:08:14,894 --> 00:08:16,896 But do you believe the patriots are the best organization 180 00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:17,897 in the NFL? 181 00:08:17,897 --> 00:08:18,898 - I think so right now. 182 00:08:18,898 --> 00:08:19,899 They are. 183 00:08:19,899 --> 00:08:25,271 I think they got a great coach in who can take players coming 184 00:08:25,271 --> 00:08:29,642 in and he got a good system where anybody can get in that 185 00:08:29,642 --> 00:08:30,643 system and play. 186 00:08:30,643 --> 00:08:33,880 And because if you look at the Patriots, 187 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,317 they're losing good players every year. 188 00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:41,221 But they got new guys coming in that's picking up the slack. 189 00:08:41,221 --> 00:08:43,223 - I'll get back to the Patriots in a second. 190 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:45,225 But I want to go to your Alma Mater. 191 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:47,227 Go back to Tennessee when you played there. 192 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:50,530 You still hold the all-purpose yardage record at Tennessee. 193 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,366 What was it like playing for the Big Orange, 194 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:54,734 playing on the hill? 195 00:08:54,734 --> 00:09:00,340 And why Tennessee when you're a South Carolina guy? 196 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,542 - Well, coming out of high school, 197 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:03,543 I was.. 198 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,544 I'm probably.. 199 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:06,946 Clemson was right there in my back yard, 200 00:09:06,946 --> 00:09:08,048 about 15 miles. 201 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:10,850 And Clemson in South Carolina was probably at my door 202 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:12,252 every day. 203 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:15,455 And I wanted to get to the NFL. 204 00:09:15,455 --> 00:09:16,956 That was my ultimate goal. 205 00:09:16,956 --> 00:09:19,993 And during the '70s if you remember correctly, 206 00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:23,797 the ACC was more of a basketball conference than football. 207 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:26,833 (Greg)   A lot different   than it is today. 208 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:28,368 It's both today. 209 00:09:28,368 --> 00:09:31,971 - And I looked at Tennessee and I thought they had a better 210 00:09:31,971 --> 00:09:33,106 football program. 211 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:37,243 And I felt if I could go to Tennessee, 212 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:41,781 play there and make that team that would give me a better 213 00:09:41,781 --> 00:09:44,084 opportunity to get to the NFL. 214 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:45,552 (Greg)   And it worked out well. 215 00:09:45,552 --> 00:09:46,619 - And it worked out well. 216 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:50,056 But one thing that people don't know is I signed with 217 00:09:50,056 --> 00:09:51,057 South Carolina. 218 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:52,225 (Greg)   Oh, you did? 219 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:54,327 - I signed with South Carolina, Paul Dietzel. 220 00:09:54,327 --> 00:10:01,234 And I got out of it because South Carolina went independent 221 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:02,502 that year. 222 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:07,107 Independent schools, well, the other conferences don't 223 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,809 recognize independent school. 224 00:10:09,809 --> 00:10:13,413 Because they got out of the ACC, I as able to get out 225 00:10:13,413 --> 00:10:14,414 of that contract. 226 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:18,551 If not, I would have had to set out a year or go 227 00:10:18,551 --> 00:10:19,552 to South Carolina. 228 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:20,553 - Interesting. 229 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:22,555 So, South Carolina probably having a tough time 230 00:10:22,555 --> 00:10:23,556 to fill schedule. 231 00:10:23,556 --> 00:10:25,558 There's not going to be a lot of TV games. 232 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:27,560 You're not going to get that exposure, 233 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:28,561 which makes a lot of sense. 234 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:30,563 So, you played under Johnny Majors? 235 00:10:30,563 --> 00:10:31,564 - No, I played under Bill Battle. 236 00:10:31,564 --> 00:10:32,565 - Under Bill Battle. 237 00:10:32,565 --> 00:10:33,566 What was he like? 238 00:10:33,566 --> 00:10:34,767 - Bill was a good coach. 239 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:38,471 He was -- had a good mind. 240 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:42,642 I just didn't.. 241 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:46,779 We had our differences when he put me in the back field. 242 00:10:46,779 --> 00:10:50,617 I really didn't want to be in the back field. 243 00:10:50,617 --> 00:10:53,887 But they felt that they had to get the ball to me a lot more. 244 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:57,323 And we didn't throw the football that much, 245 00:10:57,323 --> 00:11:00,126 even with Condredge Holloway as quarterback. 246 00:11:00,126 --> 00:11:02,128 We didn't throw the football that much. 247 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:05,965 Well, nobody did actually back then in that era. 248 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:07,967 - So, they had to find a way to get you the ball. 249 00:11:07,967 --> 00:11:09,702 So, it's almost understandable. 250 00:11:09,702 --> 00:11:10,703 - I understood it. 251 00:11:10,703 --> 00:11:15,375 But I was only about 170 pounds. 252 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:18,144 And so, after some games, I would just go to my room and 253 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:19,145 just lay down. 254 00:11:19,145 --> 00:11:20,580 It was tough. 255 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:22,582 - What was the biggest hit on you? 256 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:24,984 Can you recall in college? 257 00:11:24,984 --> 00:11:28,054 - I really can't. 258 00:11:28,054 --> 00:11:31,558 I probably don't even remember because it was so big. 259 00:11:31,558 --> 00:11:34,427 - How many concussions do you think you had that were 260 00:11:34,427 --> 00:11:38,665 diagnosed or maybe not diagnosed over the course of both your 261 00:11:38,665 --> 00:11:40,700 collegiate career and in the NFL? 262 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,102 - Oh, it's up in the double digits. 263 00:11:43,102 --> 00:11:47,707 There was a couple of times that I was carted off in New England 264 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:49,842 and I woke up in the hospital. 265 00:11:49,842 --> 00:11:51,778 So, I've been hit pretty good. 266 00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:54,113 (Greg)   Did you ever continue   to play in a game 267 00:11:54,113 --> 00:11:55,114 when you were diagnosed? 268 00:11:55,114 --> 00:11:56,115 - Oh yeah, oh yeah. 269 00:11:56,115 --> 00:11:58,251 (Greg)   Did they say   keep playing, Stanley? 270 00:11:58,251 --> 00:12:00,253 Or did you just   do it on your own? 271 00:12:00,253 --> 00:12:02,255 - I would say it was probably on our own. 272 00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:04,257 Nobody knew anything about concussions. 273 00:12:04,257 --> 00:12:09,996 And, you know, back in the day, the doctors just looked at you 274 00:12:09,996 --> 00:12:12,298 and say, "How many fingers do you see?" 275 00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:13,700 Well, I see two. 276 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:14,701 Well, you're good. 277 00:12:14,701 --> 00:12:16,502 You can go back in the game. 278 00:12:16,502 --> 00:12:17,770 So, that's the way it was. 279 00:12:17,770 --> 00:12:22,108 And we really didn't want to come out of the game anyway. 280 00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:23,109 - Of course not. 281 00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:25,111 Because you're a competitor as are all athletes. 282 00:12:25,111 --> 00:12:27,113 But it's a hot button topic today. 283 00:12:27,113 --> 00:12:29,215 No question about it with concussions. 284 00:12:29,215 --> 00:12:31,150 I know you pretty well. 285 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:33,152 I think all your wits are there. 286 00:12:33,152 --> 00:12:35,154 But do you ever feel like there's.. 287 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:37,256 God forbid there could be some damage 288 00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:40,727 and some long lasting effects? 289 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:43,096 - I know it is. 290 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:46,332 Probably about seven -- six, seven years ago 291 00:12:46,332 --> 00:12:48,334 I started having headaches. 292 00:12:48,334 --> 00:12:53,373 And I know that's a sign from that. 293 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:58,745 My neck, I know I have a neck injury that is going to cause me 294 00:12:58,745 --> 00:12:59,746 some problems. 295 00:12:59,746 --> 00:13:04,017 So, that's why I'm going to the doc now to the rehab place to 296 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,485 get my physical therapy. 297 00:13:05,485 --> 00:13:06,486 - Super Bowl 20. 298 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:07,487 Six catches. 299 00:13:07,487 --> 00:13:13,493 Good, solid, individual performance. 300 00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:15,895 But what a performance by the Chicago Bears. 301 00:13:15,895 --> 00:13:18,531 Do you believe the Bears, that team, 302 00:13:18,531 --> 00:13:20,533 is the greatest team in history? 303 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:23,102 - I think that their defense is. 304 00:13:23,102 --> 00:13:28,374 Defensively, I think they're one of the best defense that coming 305 00:13:28,374 --> 00:13:30,376 up during that era. 306 00:13:32,211 --> 00:13:33,713 They were just good. 307 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:35,748 That front seven, you just couldn't handle 308 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:36,749 that front seven. 309 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:39,786 The secondary was mediocre. 310 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:45,692 But you didn't have time to throw the football deep. 311 00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:48,394 - Hampton and the Fridge, all those guys. 312 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:52,432 Do you relive the game a lot in your mind or do you put it away? 313 00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:53,433 It's in storage. 314 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:55,435 - Well, when it happened, I did. 315 00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:57,804 That was probably the worst off season I ever had. 316 00:13:57,804 --> 00:14:02,542 You know, you lose a Super Bowl like that and to get beat that 317 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:05,111 badly, it just doesn't sit well. 318 00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:07,113 - And you never know if you'll get the opportunity again. 319 00:14:07,113 --> 00:14:08,314 And you didn't. 320 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:09,315 - That's true. 321 00:14:09,315 --> 00:14:12,018 That's exactly what happens. 322 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:14,020 - You were elected to, as I mentioned earlier, 323 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,155 the Patriots Hall of Fame in 2007. 324 00:14:16,155 --> 00:14:17,590 And well deserved may I add. 325 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:19,258 But what was that like for you? 326 00:14:19,258 --> 00:14:20,259 - Oh, it was great. 327 00:14:20,259 --> 00:14:24,330 It was just great to be recognized. 328 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:29,769 I was a little disturbed earlier because I wasn't there. 329 00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:36,409 But when Kraft took over and made it the way he made it, 330 00:14:36,409 --> 00:14:37,577 the fans voted. 331 00:14:37,577 --> 00:14:43,249 And they approved of what I did. 332 00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:47,854 - Do you think when you look back at the history of football 333 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:51,457 that you will be looked back at as one of the most underrated 334 00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:55,361 receivers to ever play the game? 335 00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:57,730 - I'd say that's why I need my wife here to talk about that. 336 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:59,265 She could tell you. 337 00:14:59,265 --> 00:15:02,835 - You could look at the numbers over the 10,000 yards and say 338 00:15:02,835 --> 00:15:04,837 you should be considered for the NFL Hall of Fame. 339 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:07,340 And yet, as you said, there was a delay getting you in to the 340 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:09,342 Patriots Hall of Fame for goodness sakes. 341 00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:12,478 - It's disturbed me a little bit. 342 00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:15,481 My wife, she would calm me down. 343 00:15:15,481 --> 00:15:17,984 Now I just don't think about it. 344 00:15:17,984 --> 00:15:19,986 You know, if it happens, it happens. 345 00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:21,654 I think I have the numbers. 346 00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:24,924 I think I have better numbers than some of the guys that are 347 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,959 in the Hall of Fame. 348 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:28,928 - In a non-passing era. 349 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,863 - Well, that's what I thought. 350 00:15:30,863 --> 00:15:35,001 I thought the Hall of Fame is what you did for that team with 351 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,603 what you had during that time. 352 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:42,108 But because we wasn't in the play-offs playing for Super 353 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:44,310 Bowls, I think that hurt me. 354 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:46,312 (Greg)   Out of sight, out of mind. 355 00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:48,347 Greatest player you played with and against? 356 00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:51,184 - Uh, probably the greatest player I played with was a 357 00:15:51,184 --> 00:15:53,186 defense to the back, Mike Haynes. 358 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:54,220 (Greg)   Sure, love Mike. 359 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:55,221 - Love. 360 00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:56,222 He's a great guy. 361 00:15:56,222 --> 00:15:57,223 He's a competitor. 362 00:15:57,223 --> 00:16:01,761 And I think I'm the receiver I was because of him. 363 00:16:01,761 --> 00:16:04,497 - And the greatest player you played against? 364 00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:05,498 - Hmm.. 365 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:08,768 There was a lot of players. 366 00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:15,274 - Was there a d-back who just he had your lunch money? 367 00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:17,910 - Practicing, going against Mike in practice. 368 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,912 (Greg)   So, it was Mike all around? 369 00:16:19,912 --> 00:16:20,913 - Yeah, it was. 370 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:21,914 It really was. 371 00:16:21,914 --> 00:16:23,916 Yeah, and then when he went to Oakland, 372 00:16:23,916 --> 00:16:27,186 we played against him in a game a couple of times. 373 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:29,188 It was very interesting. 374 00:16:29,188 --> 00:16:31,057 - Good little rivalry there. 375 00:16:31,057 --> 00:16:33,826 Stanley, you're off the hot seat but we like to finish every 376 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:35,895 interview with something called Five for the Road. 377 00:16:35,895 --> 00:16:38,231 So, I just need quick answers to these five questions. 378 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:41,567 Okay, first one is what is your favorite professional sports 379 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:45,404 team and you can't say the Patriots. 380 00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:46,405 Any sport. 381 00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:47,406 - Any sport? 382 00:16:47,406 --> 00:16:48,407 I'll go with.. 383 00:16:48,407 --> 00:16:51,777 I love the Golden State Warriors. 384 00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:53,946 - Golden State Warriors. 385 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,214 Are you a band wagon jumper? 386 00:16:55,214 --> 00:16:57,016 - I am, I am big time. 387 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,552 - Favorite pro athlete of all time? 388 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:00,553 - Football? 389 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:01,554 - Any sport. 390 00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:02,555 - Any sport? 391 00:17:02,555 --> 00:17:04,557 I'll have to go with Michael Jordan. 392 00:17:04,557 --> 00:17:05,558 - Okay. 393 00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:06,559 Favorite music. 394 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,561 What do you like to listen to or an artist? 395 00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:09,562 - I love P-Funk. 396 00:17:09,562 --> 00:17:14,800 I grew up in the '70s and I grew up with Funkadelic Parliament, 397 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,068 George Clinton. 398 00:17:16,068 --> 00:17:17,069 - Absolutely. 399 00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:20,806 My little sister got me hooked on to that. 400 00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:22,942 - Get out of here! 401 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:25,945 - Yeah, she loved that, all the albums. 402 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,514 Favorite movie of all time. 403 00:17:28,514 --> 00:17:29,782 - Jason Bourne. 404 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:32,385 - So, um, that was the character. 405 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:35,354 What was the name of the.. 406 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:38,791 - Bourne Identity and all the other ones. 407 00:17:38,791 --> 00:17:42,662 - Okay and how about your favorite television show? 408 00:17:42,662 --> 00:17:43,930 - Uh, Scandal. 409 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:44,931 - Scandal! 410 00:17:44,931 --> 00:17:46,032 - Scandal. 411 00:17:46,032 --> 00:17:48,034 - By the way, if it was a sports movie, 412 00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:50,903 what would it be? 413 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:52,905 - I'll go with The Longest Yard. 414 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,040 (Greg)   The Longest Yard, good choice. 415 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,174 Stanley, always a pleasure to see you. 416 00:17:55,174 --> 00:17:55,775 - Thank you. 417 00:17:55,775 --> 00:17:56,475 - Hit 'em long, hit 'em straight. 418 00:17:56,475 --> 00:17:57,510 Alright? 419 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:58,811 - That's the name of the game. 420 00:17:58,811 --> 00:17:59,745 - That's the idea, right? 421 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:00,579 That's Stanley Morgan. 422 00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:01,447 We'll take a short break. 423 00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:03,482 Overtime is next. 424 00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:19,332 [theme music] 425 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:22,735 Always good to see Stanley Morgan who has called Memphis 426 00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:25,671 home since the early '80s when he split time between the Bluff 427 00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:27,807 City and New England. 428 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:29,809 Now to round ball, and the times, 429 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:31,811 they are a changing at Mississippi State. 430 00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:34,814 After three rough years under former head coach Rick Ray, 431 00:18:34,814 --> 00:18:38,117 the Dogs reached out to veteran Head Coach Ben Howland to take 432 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,586 over the program beginning this season. 433 00:18:40,586 --> 00:18:45,057 The 58-year-old becomes the 20th head coach in Bulldogs history. 434 00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:47,660 Howland was the Naismith National Coach of the year 435 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:49,228 winner in 2002. 436 00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:52,932 He led three different schools to the NCAA Tournament including 437 00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:56,569 the UCLA Bruins, who twice made the final four under Howland, 438 00:18:56,569 --> 00:19:00,339 losing in the 2006 National Championship game to Florida and 439 00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:02,842 in the 2007 National Semi-Finals, 440 00:19:02,842 --> 00:19:04,710 once again to the Gators. 441 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,580 Howland was hired by the Bulldogs in March and several 442 00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,483 months later we had a chance to catch up with him to chat about 443 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:11,984 his new job and his expectations. 444 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:13,319 (off-screen male)   Why did you   feel this was a good opportunity 445 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,154 to come to Mississippi State? 446 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,390 - Well, I think they've had great success in the past. 447 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:20,393 You look at the history of the program and I love following 448 00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:22,194 college basketball. 449 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:26,032 You look back to Babe McCarthy and what he did and what he 450 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:27,800 meant to the University. 451 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,369 And then in recently history, look at Richard Williams leading 452 00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:32,872 the program not only to the Final Four but the previous 453 00:19:32,872 --> 00:19:35,041 year, they went to the Sweet Sixteen. 454 00:19:35,041 --> 00:19:38,110 '95, '96, phenomenal back-to-back years. 455 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:39,311 He had great success. 456 00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:43,349 And I think Rick Stansbury did a phenomenal job over 457 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,017 his 14 year tenure. 458 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,920 So, you've had a lot of success in basketball in the past at 459 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,790 Mississippi State with some outstanding coaches 460 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:52,491 and great players. 461 00:19:52,491 --> 00:19:55,294 And so, where they've had success in the past, 462 00:19:55,294 --> 00:19:57,763 I feel like you have a good chance to have success 463 00:19:57,763 --> 00:19:58,864 in the future. 464 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,300 We've got a lot of work to do but I'm really excited and think 465 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,837 we've got great facilities, a great university to sell and 466 00:20:04,837 --> 00:20:07,640 great fans to support the team. 467 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,874 (off-screen male)   With that kind of tradition, 468 00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:10,509 what kind of pressure   does that put on you? 469 00:20:10,509 --> 00:20:11,944 - Well, we always have pressure. 470 00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:13,479 We expect to win. 471 00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:15,114 We expect to win, you know, immediately. 472 00:20:15,114 --> 00:20:17,950 That puts a lot of pressure because I think the most 473 00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:21,053 important pressure you ever have as a coach is what comes 474 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,888 internally from yourself. 475 00:20:22,888 --> 00:20:25,758 If you don't put pressure on yourself then you shouldn't be 476 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:28,494 in this business to begin with. 477 00:20:28,494 --> 00:20:30,596 (off-screen male)   How much did   you miss coaching while you're 478 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:32,398 out analyzing basketball? 479 00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:33,933 - Well, I really missed it. 480 00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:37,203 And especially this last year, I was involved in a lot of media 481 00:20:37,203 --> 00:20:40,139 work as you pointed out with Fox and with NBC, 482 00:20:40,139 --> 00:20:43,576 both doing cross-country trips every week. 483 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:47,213 But it really, you know, got to miss it a lot, 484 00:20:47,213 --> 00:20:50,649 just being around it, especially doing games in person and being 485 00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:53,152 around the kids and being   at the practices and being 486 00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,620 around the coaches. 487 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:57,823 It's just, you know, it's what a   great life to have been a coach 488 00:20:57,823 --> 00:20:59,358 my entire career. 489 00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:01,694 I mean, most people, you know,   they got to get up and have a 490 00:21:01,694 --> 00:21:03,562 real job. 491 00:21:03,562 --> 00:21:06,132 I actually love what I do   and feel very passionate 492 00:21:06,132 --> 00:21:08,033 about my profession. 493 00:21:08,033 --> 00:21:10,269 (off-screen male)   So, aside from   Kentucky and Florida, 494 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,905 the rest of the league   hasn't had a lot of consistency. 495 00:21:12,905 --> 00:21:15,341 What do you have to do to   be a consistent contender 496 00:21:15,341 --> 00:21:16,776 in this league? 497 00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:17,643 - Well, I tell you what. 498 00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:20,846 I think there's been a lot of good teams when you look at the 499 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,081 last ten years. 500 00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,850 I mean, we're comparing the rest of the league to Kentucky who's 501 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:26,852 been in the Final Four three or four times 502 00:21:26,852 --> 00:21:28,854 in the last ten years. 503 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:30,756 Florida has won national championships. 504 00:21:30,756 --> 00:21:31,857 Kentucky won one. 505 00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:35,227 So, those teams have done a phenomenal job. 506 00:21:35,227 --> 00:21:39,098 You know, especially recently Calipari with Kentucky, 507 00:21:39,098 --> 00:21:40,533 Billy Donovan. 508 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:44,770 My teams at UCLA lost to them, to Florida twice in the Final 509 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:47,206 Fours in '06 and '07. 510 00:21:47,206 --> 00:21:49,175 So, I know first hand how good they were. 511 00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:51,243 But I think our team's on the up rise. 512 00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:53,445 I think you're seeing a lot   of great coaches coming to the 513 00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:55,114 league right now. 514 00:21:55,114 --> 00:21:57,483 Things can be very competitive   and it's going to raise the 515 00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:59,952 level of the conference. 516 00:21:59,952 --> 00:22:02,821 And so, that's going to be great   in terms of more teams getting 517 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:06,025 in the NCAA   tournament on a year-in basis. 518 00:22:06,025 --> 00:22:07,827 (off-screen male)   Obviously you had   a good year recruiting. 519 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,061 Tell us about Malik Newman. 520 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:10,496 What's he going to   bring to the team? 521 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:12,798 - I think Malik Newman is one of the best players in the country. 522 00:22:12,798 --> 00:22:16,569 And it's really special to have a young man from Jackson, 523 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:19,438 Mississippi, two hours away from campus, 524 00:22:19,438 --> 00:22:23,709 to elect to stay home and play in front of the fans in his home 525 00:22:23,709 --> 00:22:26,612 state and to play at the university where his father, 526 00:22:26,612 --> 00:22:29,715 Horatio Webster, played and was such a great player for 527 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:31,584 Mississippi State and the Bulldogs. 528 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:33,319 So, we're very blessed. 529 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:36,121 I'm very grateful that we're able to keep him home. 530 00:22:36,121 --> 00:22:39,225 He's going to be an outstanding point guard for us. 531 00:22:39,225 --> 00:22:40,993 He scores the ball so well. 532 00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:42,928 He's a very, very good shooter. 533 00:22:42,928 --> 00:22:44,396 A very good scorer. 534 00:22:44,396 --> 00:22:46,932 He's a good decision maker with the ball. 535 00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:49,868 And I think he has tons of upside and it'll be my job to 536 00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:55,007 help him reach his potential so he can move on to the NBA. 537 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,942 (off-screen male)   Based on that   talent you've got in camp right 538 00:22:56,942 --> 00:22:59,278 now, what's the style   of play going to be? 539 00:22:59,278 --> 00:23:02,648 What are people going to   see from Mississippi State? 540 00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:04,483 - Well, we're going to play man-to-man defense primarily. 541 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:05,851 That's what I believe in. 542 00:23:05,851 --> 00:23:08,053 And we're really going to emphasize doing a great job 543 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:12,625 getting back in transition, forcing people to have to really 544 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:15,761 work hard to score against us, against our half court 545 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:16,996 set defense. 546 00:23:16,996 --> 00:23:19,932 And offensive, we're going to push it every time we get it. 547 00:23:19,932 --> 00:23:21,533 Made or missed   shots by our opponent. 548 00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:24,570 And if we don't have a good   shot early in the possession, 549 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:27,640 then we're going to really try   to execute and set good screens 550 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,409 and move the ball and change it from side-to-side, 551 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:33,846 get it inside and back out, set good screens for one another and 552 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:35,748 play unselfishly. 553 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:38,083 (off-screen male)   What are   your expectations for this year? 554 00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,852 - Well, I'm really excited about this year. 555 00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:42,288 You know, we're still finishing up our schedule right now. 556 00:23:42,288 --> 00:23:44,056 We've got a couple more games to do. 557 00:23:44,056 --> 00:23:45,891 I know the SEC is going to get very, 558 00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:47,826 very tough when you look at the conference. 559 00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:49,628 But we're excited to get started. 560 00:23:49,628 --> 00:23:51,664 And we're looking forward to competing. 561 00:23:51,664 --> 00:23:53,866 (off-screen male)   What's your message today   for the fan faithful? 562 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:56,302 - Just appreciate the opportunity to be their coach 563 00:23:56,302 --> 00:23:59,672 and I'm so excited to be here at Mississippi State. 564 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:02,274 And I really hope that everyone will come down to the Hump next 565 00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:04,610 basketball season and support the team. 566 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:08,947 Because the key to having a home court advantage is having great 567 00:24:08,947 --> 00:24:12,217 fans there to support their team. 568 00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:14,420 - Howland is already off to a great start at Mississippi State 569 00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:17,423 with the April signing of the nation's top ranked guard, 570 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,892 Malik Newman, whose father also played at Mississippi State. 571 00:24:19,892 --> 00:24:25,364 Speaking of hoops, Grizzlies fans are breathing a big sigh of 572 00:24:25,364 --> 00:24:28,534 relief after the team's signing   of all-star center Marc Gasol to 573 00:24:28,534 --> 00:24:34,340 a new five year max contract   worth around $110 million. 574 00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:37,876 He will have a player option   after four years of that deal. 575 00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:40,579 It was not a shocker that Big   Spain decided to stay with the 576 00:24:40,579 --> 00:24:43,816 Grizzlies, but getting him for   five years was incredible news 577 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:46,218 for the organization. 578 00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:47,486 And that will do it for this week's show. 579 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,555 Don't forget you can see any of our previous shows by going to 580 00:24:49,555 --> 00:24:52,324 our website, WKNO.org. 581 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:56,095 Next week it's a special Sports Files program with NBA legend 582 00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:58,564 Ervin Magic Johnson. 583 00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:01,066 Until then have a great week and we'll see you next time. 584 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:38,804 [theme music] 585 00:25:38,804 --> 00:25:40,973 (female announcer)   Production funding   for "Sports Files" is 586 00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:43,509 made possible in part by.. 587 00:25:43,509 --> 00:25:45,477 (male narrator)   Infiniti of Memphis   has moved to Germantown 588 00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:48,614 road just half mile north of   Wolfchase Galleria and is proud 589 00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:51,850 to support WKNO for its quality   broadcasting and service 590 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:52,651 to our community. 591 00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:55,020 Quality and service --   No wonder Infiniti of Memphis 592 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,456 feels at home on WKNO. 593 00:25:57,456 --> 00:26:01,456 CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY WKNO, MEMPHIS.