1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,798 (female announcer) This is a production of WKNO - Memphis. 2 00:00:03,798 --> 00:00:07,098 Production funding for "Sports Files" is made possible in part 3 00:00:07,098 --> 00:00:13,098 by.. 4 00:00:15,864 --> 00:00:18,898 My guest today on "Sports Files" is legendary College football 5 00:00:18,898 --> 00:00:21,264 Hall of Fame coach Gene Stallings. 6 00:00:21,264 --> 00:00:37,931 ♪♪♪ 7 00:00:37,931 --> 00:00:40,264 The unofficial start of the college football season took 8 00:00:40,264 --> 00:00:43,431 place this week with the annual S-E-C media days in Hoover, 9 00:00:43,431 --> 00:00:44,431 Alabama. 10 00:00:44,431 --> 00:00:46,564 The three day event concluded this afternoon, 11 00:00:46,564 --> 00:00:49,498 and as always, featured a record number of media members 12 00:00:49,498 --> 00:00:52,964 converging on the Wynfrey Hotel, looking to find that one great 13 00:00:52,964 --> 00:00:55,831 quote, soundbite or interview for their respective media 14 00:00:55,831 --> 00:00:57,198 organization. 15 00:00:57,198 --> 00:01:00,464 Last year Texas A and M and Missouri joined the conference 16 00:01:00,464 --> 00:01:03,331 giving the media 14 teams to chomp at. 17 00:01:03,331 --> 00:01:05,864 S-E-C media days wasn't always this crazy, 18 00:01:05,864 --> 00:01:08,164 but the power of the conference has been. 19 00:01:08,164 --> 00:01:10,698 The great Gene Stallings is a former coach of the Alabama 20 00:01:10,698 --> 00:01:15,031 Crimson Tide and helped lead them to a perfect season in 1992 21 00:01:15,031 --> 00:01:16,931 and a National Championship. 22 00:01:16,931 --> 00:01:18,764 He has also coached at his Alma Mater, 23 00:01:18,764 --> 00:01:21,731 Texas A and M, who back then, were part of the Southwest 24 00:01:21,731 --> 00:01:22,731 Conference. 25 00:01:22,731 --> 00:01:25,064 Stallings is one of the great coaches in college football 26 00:01:25,064 --> 00:01:27,964 history and a member of the college football hall of fame. 27 00:01:27,964 --> 00:01:31,431 He was also a head coach in the National Football League. 28 00:01:31,431 --> 00:01:34,031 Today on "Sports Files", Gene Stallings on the power of the 29 00:01:34,031 --> 00:01:37,598 S-E-C, with their seven straight National Champinships, 30 00:01:37,598 --> 00:01:40,598 his time as a player under Coach Paul Bear Bryant, 31 00:01:40,598 --> 00:01:43,198 and his legacy as a football coach. 32 00:01:43,198 --> 00:01:53,731 ♪♪♪ 33 00:01:53,731 --> 00:01:55,231 Coach, thank you so much for being wtih us today. 34 00:01:55,231 --> 00:01:56,564 My privlege. 35 00:01:56,564 --> 00:01:58,098 It's always a joy. 36 00:01:58,098 --> 00:01:59,798 You speak at a lot of different functions, 37 00:01:59,798 --> 00:02:01,464 a lot of different places around the country. 38 00:02:01,464 --> 00:02:02,631 What's your main message? 39 00:02:02,631 --> 00:02:05,331 Oh, when you're cheap, you go a lot. 40 00:02:05,331 --> 00:02:07,098 You know it depends on what it is. 41 00:02:07,098 --> 00:02:09,398 You know I'm doing three different things this week. 42 00:02:09,398 --> 00:02:12,964 And when I was speaking in Memphis about, 43 00:02:12,964 --> 00:02:15,364 it was the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. 44 00:02:15,364 --> 00:02:18,098 I'm speaking at a prayer breakfast in Dallas. 45 00:02:18,098 --> 00:02:21,198 And then I'm doing something for Chevrolet in Birmingham. 46 00:02:21,198 --> 00:02:23,964 So you know everythings a little bit different. 47 00:02:23,964 --> 00:02:28,098 We were looking at an article in USA Today about your daughters 48 00:02:28,098 --> 00:02:32,564 who are all teenagers and what they're going to try to do with 49 00:02:32,564 --> 00:02:37,531 your help and the help of others to build a hospital in Haiti 50 00:02:37,531 --> 00:02:41,564 where it's just been obviously a tough situation for the 51 00:02:41,564 --> 00:02:42,564 Haitians. 52 00:02:42,564 --> 00:02:44,498 One of my daughters has been there over 30 times. 53 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:45,698 Her husbands a doctor. 54 00:02:45,698 --> 00:02:47,764 They live in Nashville. 55 00:02:47,764 --> 00:02:51,531 They have a foundation that basically says live beyond. 56 00:02:51,531 --> 00:02:56,064 And so they purchased 65 acres of land. 57 00:02:56,064 --> 00:03:02,198 And on that 65 acres of land which has no electricity, 58 00:03:02,198 --> 00:03:05,364 no sewage, no fresh water, no wood, 59 00:03:05,364 --> 00:03:07,031 no anything. 60 00:03:07,031 --> 00:03:11,098 They're building a guest house where workers can stay. 61 00:03:11,098 --> 00:03:14,498 They're building a hospital, an orphanage, 62 00:03:14,498 --> 00:03:17,764 a home for the little handicapped child called 63 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:19,998 "Johnny's House" and a worship center. 64 00:03:19,998 --> 00:03:23,798 So it's going to change that little part of the world. 65 00:03:23,798 --> 00:03:26,664 We know how dear to your heart that cause is. 66 00:03:26,664 --> 00:03:31,798 But how happy and satisfied are you being able to reach out and 67 00:03:31,798 --> 00:03:32,798 help people? 68 00:03:32,798 --> 00:03:33,798 Oh yeah, you know, that's, you know, 69 00:03:33,798 --> 00:03:34,931 I've been blessed. 70 00:03:34,931 --> 00:03:37,531 You know I've got good health. 71 00:03:37,531 --> 00:03:38,698 I've had good jobs. 72 00:03:38,698 --> 00:03:40,931 I've done what a lot of people don't have that. 73 00:03:40,931 --> 00:03:42,164 They don't have good jobs. 74 00:03:42,164 --> 00:03:43,164 They don't have good health. 75 00:03:43,164 --> 00:03:44,931 They don't have good families. 76 00:03:44,931 --> 00:03:50,198 And so if we're not a little sympathetic towards the people 77 00:03:50,198 --> 00:03:53,298 that are a little less fortunate than we are, 78 00:03:53,298 --> 00:03:55,298 we just may not make it. 79 00:03:55,298 --> 00:03:56,864 Let's talk some pig skin now. 80 00:03:56,864 --> 00:03:58,698 Texas A and M, your Alma Mater. 81 00:03:58,698 --> 00:04:01,031 Alabama won a national championship as a head coach 82 00:04:01,031 --> 00:04:02,031 there. 83 00:04:02,031 --> 00:04:03,764 Also a head coach with the Aggies. 84 00:04:03,764 --> 00:04:06,198 Low and behold, they're both in the same conference now. 85 00:04:06,198 --> 00:04:08,698 Texas A and M has joined the S-E-C and you had a little 86 00:04:08,698 --> 00:04:09,698 something to do that that. 87 00:04:09,698 --> 00:04:13,498 I served on the board of regents. 88 00:04:13,498 --> 00:04:17,898 In Texas, the governor appoints you for a six year term. 89 00:04:17,898 --> 00:04:19,631 And I've served on the board. 90 00:04:19,631 --> 00:04:21,464 And basically, there was discussion, 91 00:04:21,464 --> 00:04:24,398 University of Texas primarily, about joining the PAC-10. 92 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:29,198 Well I really didn't think we had a lot in common with the 93 00:04:29,198 --> 00:04:30,198 PAC-10. 94 00:04:30,198 --> 00:04:33,264 And why travel two time zones to play a game? 95 00:04:33,264 --> 00:04:35,464 That didn't make sense to me. 96 00:04:35,464 --> 00:04:38,031 If we were going to change conferences, 97 00:04:38,031 --> 00:04:41,364 why not join the greatest conference in the country 98 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:43,931 especially football-wise and thats South Eastern Conference. 99 00:04:43,931 --> 00:04:46,131 And we pursued South Eastern Conference. 100 00:04:46,131 --> 00:04:47,598 They didn't pursue us. 101 00:04:47,598 --> 00:04:50,198 But later they offered us an invitation. 102 00:04:50,198 --> 00:04:53,864 We were admitted to the conference and some didn't know 103 00:04:53,864 --> 00:04:57,564 whether or not that was a good decision or not. 104 00:04:57,564 --> 00:04:59,764 But it turned out extremely well. 105 00:04:59,764 --> 00:05:04,931 A and M has made a pretty nice impact in one year in the 106 00:05:04,931 --> 00:05:05,931 league. 107 00:05:05,931 --> 00:05:07,864 And Johnny Manzel winning the Heisman trophy. 108 00:05:07,864 --> 00:05:10,798 What do you think about that young quarterback? 109 00:05:10,798 --> 00:05:15,598 Well I think, you know, some of us wanted to tell the coach 110 00:05:15,598 --> 00:05:18,164 during spring practice just leave him alone. 111 00:05:18,164 --> 00:05:22,231 I mean, you know, he just makes things on his own. 112 00:05:22,231 --> 00:05:24,431 I mean he's hard to tackle. 113 00:05:24,431 --> 00:05:28,498 He's got that great ability to escape trouble and he deserves 114 00:05:28,498 --> 00:05:29,931 the Heisman. 115 00:05:29,931 --> 00:05:32,698 They lost two games but they could have very easily beaten 116 00:05:32,698 --> 00:05:34,798 Florida and should have beaten L-S-U. 117 00:05:34,798 --> 00:05:38,031 And of course he did beat Alabama and Tuscaloosa. 118 00:05:38,031 --> 00:05:40,198 Not many people do that. 119 00:05:40,198 --> 00:05:43,931 Alabama winning three out of the last four B-C-S National 120 00:05:43,931 --> 00:05:44,931 Championships. 121 00:05:44,931 --> 00:05:46,998 What do you think of Nick Saban? 122 00:05:46,998 --> 00:05:48,264 What a great job. 123 00:05:48,264 --> 00:05:50,831 Nick played my golf tournament the other day. 124 00:05:50,831 --> 00:05:53,731 And I told him -- I said, "Now Nick, 125 00:05:53,731 --> 00:05:57,564 if you don't do it again, we're going to be hot now." 126 00:05:57,564 --> 00:05:59,464 It's not four out five, right? 127 00:05:59,464 --> 00:06:02,364 No, I mean we're already used to this guy. 128 00:06:02,364 --> 00:06:04,264 What a great job he's done! 129 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:06,198 I mean he's a no-nonsense coach. 130 00:06:06,198 --> 00:06:07,798 He's an extremely good recruiter. 131 00:06:07,798 --> 00:06:09,398 They've got lots of depth. 132 00:06:09,398 --> 00:06:10,398 They're well-coached. 133 00:06:10,398 --> 00:06:13,864 And I just can't imagine anybody doing a better job right now, 134 00:06:13,864 --> 00:06:16,131 college football, than what Coach Sabans doing. 135 00:06:16,131 --> 00:06:19,964 Gene, all the years you coached, did you take things away from 136 00:06:19,964 --> 00:06:21,864 Bear Bryant, Tom Landry, a combination. 137 00:06:21,864 --> 00:06:23,464 Was it your own style? 138 00:06:23,464 --> 00:06:25,398 What was the style you had? 139 00:06:25,398 --> 00:06:28,931 Well first of all, you've got to coach your own personnel. 140 00:06:28,931 --> 00:06:31,798 No way I could have coached without Coach Landry. 141 00:06:31,798 --> 00:06:34,664 No way I could have coached without Coach Bryant. 142 00:06:34,664 --> 00:06:37,564 But I learned some things from both of them. 143 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:40,431 You know, Coach Bryant is probably the greatest college 144 00:06:40,431 --> 00:06:41,431 coach ever. 145 00:06:41,431 --> 00:06:44,264 I feel the same way about Coach Landry and professional 146 00:06:44,264 --> 00:06:45,264 football. 147 00:06:45,264 --> 00:06:48,798 And there's some things that they did that I would 148 00:06:48,798 --> 00:06:51,898 incorperate, some things they did that I wouldn't. 149 00:06:51,898 --> 00:06:55,931 And it's just a privlege really to work for those kind of 150 00:06:55,931 --> 00:06:56,931 people. 151 00:06:56,931 --> 00:07:00,064 I mean can you imagine being in staff meetings year after year 152 00:07:00,064 --> 00:07:03,698 with Coach Landry and then on the field with Coach Bryant. 153 00:07:03,698 --> 00:07:06,631 I mean it was -- My coaching career has been a joy. 154 00:07:06,631 --> 00:07:13,198 Well it certainly rubbed off. 155 00:07:13,198 --> 00:07:14,198 1992 national championship with Alabama, 156 00:07:14,198 --> 00:07:15,198 a perfect 13 and 0 season. 157 00:07:15,198 --> 00:07:16,198 Other than winning the title, what's the greatest memory you 158 00:07:16,198 --> 00:07:18,364 have, memory of that year, that season? 159 00:07:18,364 --> 00:07:21,698 Well first of all, no question about the joy that I got out of 160 00:07:21,698 --> 00:07:24,798 coaching that was seeing a player graduate. 161 00:07:24,798 --> 00:07:30,398 You know here's a player and grandmother, 162 00:07:30,398 --> 00:07:33,564 a mother say something like this. 163 00:07:33,564 --> 00:07:37,098 "First one ever on either side of the family to ever go to 164 00:07:37,098 --> 00:07:38,398 college." 165 00:07:38,398 --> 00:07:39,964 Help him with his books. 166 00:07:39,964 --> 00:07:42,464 And you know to see that player, you know, 167 00:07:42,464 --> 00:07:44,264 graduate, get a degree. 168 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:45,798 It's life changing. 169 00:07:45,798 --> 00:07:49,698 And you know I know the importance of winning games. 170 00:07:49,698 --> 00:07:53,931 You know but to see those players be successful was a real 171 00:07:53,931 --> 00:07:55,698 joy I got out of coaching. 172 00:07:55,698 --> 00:07:58,098 Do you think we've gotten too far away from that? 173 00:07:58,098 --> 00:08:00,798 Yes, there are still the student athletes that want to graduate. 174 00:08:00,798 --> 00:08:02,331 They want to get that degree. 175 00:08:02,331 --> 00:08:04,098 But it's such a big business, as you know. 176 00:08:04,098 --> 00:08:06,698 And you know what worries me -- really bothers me. 177 00:08:06,698 --> 00:08:09,698 Doesn't worry me but no body honors contracts anymore. 178 00:08:09,698 --> 00:08:13,898 Universities, you know, if a guy can have one or two bad years, 179 00:08:13,898 --> 00:08:14,898 he's gone. 180 00:08:14,898 --> 00:08:18,764 A head coach can have one or two good years and he's gone. 181 00:08:18,764 --> 00:08:22,631 Somewhere along the line, I just feel like that both the coach 182 00:08:22,631 --> 00:08:25,198 and the schools, we need to honor contracts. 183 00:08:25,198 --> 00:08:27,464 You know we've got a law school. 184 00:08:27,464 --> 00:08:30,698 We teach people all over the world to honor contracts. 185 00:08:30,698 --> 00:08:34,564 And then we break them either as a coach or a player. 186 00:08:34,564 --> 00:08:36,831 And that bothers me a little bit. 187 00:08:36,831 --> 00:08:40,064 It bothers me personally that we're making the season longer. 188 00:08:40,064 --> 00:08:42,964 We've got to decide who the game is for. 189 00:08:42,964 --> 00:08:47,164 If the games for he player, then let's give the player a little 190 00:08:47,164 --> 00:08:49,431 consideration about how long the season is. 191 00:08:49,431 --> 00:08:52,998 Because whether we like it or whether we don't like it, 192 00:08:52,998 --> 00:08:55,698 you go to college for an education. 193 00:08:55,698 --> 00:08:57,398 You play football while you're there. 194 00:08:57,398 --> 00:09:00,931 And some areas it gets like we're going to college to play 195 00:09:00,931 --> 00:09:02,898 football and we're going to try to get an education. 196 00:09:02,898 --> 00:09:09,631 Yeah and I just, you know, I don't subscribe to that theory. 197 00:09:09,631 --> 00:09:10,698 Footballs great. 198 00:09:10,698 --> 00:09:12,264 I love it. 199 00:09:12,264 --> 00:09:16,198 But its not a life job for a lot of the players now. 200 00:09:16,198 --> 00:09:19,731 If you go in to professional football but most of them don't. 201 00:09:19,731 --> 00:09:21,164 I completely understand. 202 00:09:21,164 --> 00:09:23,898 We've had a crazy last couple of years. 203 00:09:23,898 --> 00:09:26,231 The turmoil of schools leaving leagues, 204 00:09:26,231 --> 00:09:27,564 joining other leagues. 205 00:09:27,564 --> 00:09:30,498 We also though have now in Division I A football or we will 206 00:09:30,498 --> 00:09:32,964 in 2014, a 14 play-off. 207 00:09:32,964 --> 00:09:34,598 Do you like going in that direction? 208 00:09:34,598 --> 00:09:38,298 No, no I never wanted to go down that. 209 00:09:38,298 --> 00:09:39,298 It was coming. 210 00:09:39,298 --> 00:09:41,064 There's no question about that. 211 00:09:41,064 --> 00:09:45,164 What I think is going to happen eventually is it's going to be 212 00:09:45,164 --> 00:09:47,298 like four major conferences. 213 00:09:47,298 --> 00:09:49,631 And it maybe like 20 teams in the conference. 214 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:51,264 Then they'll have a champiionship game. 215 00:09:51,264 --> 00:09:54,498 And they're going to have some kind of play-off. 216 00:09:54,498 --> 00:09:58,798 Because as it is now, somebody still has to make the decision 217 00:09:58,798 --> 00:10:00,931 on who's going to be those top four. 218 00:10:00,931 --> 00:10:03,031 And whoever is fifth is going to say, 219 00:10:03,031 --> 00:10:06,431 "Good night, we shoud have been fourth." 220 00:10:06,431 --> 00:10:08,064 And who ever is sixth is going to say, 221 00:10:08,064 --> 00:10:09,264 "We beat third. 222 00:10:09,264 --> 00:10:11,231 "You know we beat the third team." 223 00:10:11,231 --> 00:10:15,298 And so you still not going to satisfy everybody. 224 00:10:15,298 --> 00:10:17,231 Gene, what was it like to be one of the junction boys? 225 00:10:17,231 --> 00:10:19,998 Well you know it was hot. 226 00:10:19,998 --> 00:10:24,631 You know you didn't get any water in those days. 227 00:10:24,631 --> 00:10:28,331 The furthest thing from my mind was quitting. 228 00:10:28,331 --> 00:10:31,131 I never gave quitting a thought. 229 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,898 You know I was on scholarship. 230 00:10:33,898 --> 00:10:39,198 I was going to be able to get me a college degree. 231 00:10:39,198 --> 00:10:41,164 Now I was glad when junction was over. 232 00:10:41,164 --> 00:10:46,364 But what made junction so bad really was the lines were short. 233 00:10:46,364 --> 00:10:51,498 If you got 15 ins, it takes a while before your time. 234 00:10:51,498 --> 00:10:54,931 But if you just have six ins, you're time comes up. 235 00:10:54,931 --> 00:10:57,998 And if you just have four, it really comes up fast. 236 00:10:57,998 --> 00:11:01,564 And you still have the same two hour practice session. 237 00:11:01,564 --> 00:11:04,731 And we're in the middle of a draft. 238 00:11:04,731 --> 00:11:06,164 And everytime you put your hands down, 239 00:11:06,164 --> 00:11:07,831 there's big old gold heads. 240 00:11:07,831 --> 00:11:09,864 And it was the conditions. 241 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:16,131 If Coach Bryant had known -- and I never did say this. 242 00:11:16,131 --> 00:11:20,098 But if he had known the conditions were that bad and I 243 00:11:20,098 --> 00:11:22,398 don't think we'd ever gone to junction. 244 00:11:22,398 --> 00:11:28,398 What do you think Coach Bryant would do now-a-days as we now 245 00:11:28,398 --> 00:11:35,098 live in an era where if a coach hollers at a kid, 246 00:11:35,098 --> 00:11:36,098 he gets in trouble. 247 00:11:36,098 --> 00:11:38,331 If he puts his hands on a kid, he gets in trouble. 248 00:11:38,331 --> 00:11:40,331 It's a lot different as you know. 249 00:11:40,331 --> 00:11:42,998 How would Coach Bryant fair today? 250 00:11:42,998 --> 00:11:44,031 -- just as successful? 251 00:11:44,031 --> 00:11:47,198 First of all, I think he would adjust some. 252 00:11:47,198 --> 00:11:48,298 Mhmm. 253 00:11:48,298 --> 00:11:52,798 I just, my wildest imagination -- I can't imagine one of his 254 00:11:52,798 --> 00:11:55,631 football teams with a bunch of players with hair down in the 255 00:11:55,631 --> 00:11:56,931 middle of their back now. 256 00:11:56,931 --> 00:11:59,631 That may happen. 257 00:11:59,631 --> 00:12:02,464 And for him not to holler at them occasionally, 258 00:12:02,464 --> 00:12:09,398 and he didn't like for anybody to put their hands on them back 259 00:12:09,398 --> 00:12:10,398 when I was coaching for it. 260 00:12:10,398 --> 00:12:11,398 I've heard him tell some coaches, 261 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:12,398 "Hey, keep yout hands off the players." 262 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:13,398 Yeah, just don't do that. 263 00:12:13,398 --> 00:12:14,398 If anybody's gonna touch players, 264 00:12:14,398 --> 00:12:15,631 it's gonna be him. 265 00:12:15,631 --> 00:12:21,398 But he would be a great coach because he would recruit well. 266 00:12:21,398 --> 00:12:26,064 And you know, he wasn't opposed to changing. 267 00:12:26,064 --> 00:12:28,998 You know he had a couple years that wasn't too good and people 268 00:12:28,998 --> 00:12:33,364 in Alabama were a little upset. 269 00:12:33,364 --> 00:12:36,698 And then they went to the Wishbone. 270 00:12:36,698 --> 00:12:39,464 And then after that, they won some more national champions. 271 00:12:39,464 --> 00:12:41,831 So he had the ability to adjust. 272 00:12:41,831 --> 00:12:44,964 That's one of the things you've got to do in college football 273 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:46,264 and pro football. 274 00:12:46,264 --> 00:12:47,564 You're the college football hall of fame. 275 00:12:47,564 --> 00:12:48,864 What was that like? 276 00:12:48,864 --> 00:12:50,831 2010 I think you were enshrined. 277 00:12:50,831 --> 00:12:54,898 Well you know it's really a compliment to the players and 278 00:12:54,898 --> 00:12:55,898 the coaches. 279 00:12:55,898 --> 00:12:57,398 You know that's the bottom line. 280 00:12:57,398 --> 00:13:01,831 You win football games not because your scheme is better 281 00:13:01,831 --> 00:13:03,098 than their scheme. 282 00:13:03,098 --> 00:13:05,198 You know we're always talking about scheme. 283 00:13:05,198 --> 00:13:06,531 Boy, that was a great call. 284 00:13:06,531 --> 00:13:12,064 You win football games with football players making plays. 285 00:13:12,064 --> 00:13:14,664 Football players don't make plays -- You can have the 286 00:13:14,664 --> 00:13:16,098 greatest game in the world. 287 00:13:16,098 --> 00:13:20,531 And so if you have good players making plays and winning some 288 00:13:20,531 --> 00:13:24,564 games, well obviously the coach has an opportunity to be in the 289 00:13:24,564 --> 00:13:25,564 hall of fame. 290 00:13:25,564 --> 00:13:28,231 So I know that a lot of coaches. 291 00:13:28,231 --> 00:13:30,231 But I had some good players. 292 00:13:30,231 --> 00:13:33,898 What was your experience like in the N-F-L coaching the Cardinals 293 00:13:33,898 --> 00:13:36,598 and how much different was it from college? 294 00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:38,264 Well very little for me. 295 00:13:38,264 --> 00:13:43,264 You know if you had seen one of my pro teams practice and one of 296 00:13:43,264 --> 00:13:46,264 my college teams practice, you couldn't have told the 297 00:13:46,264 --> 00:13:47,631 difference very much really. 298 00:13:47,631 --> 00:13:49,631 You know times changed and now. 299 00:13:49,631 --> 00:13:52,964 In fact, they're talking about having a rule in Texas. 300 00:13:52,964 --> 00:13:55,964 And high school football in Texas is extremely big. 301 00:13:55,964 --> 00:13:59,931 I was reading an article the other day that said that they're 302 00:13:59,931 --> 00:14:03,331 talking about having no contact once the season gets underway. 303 00:14:03,331 --> 00:14:06,998 So all of your drills will be hats and shoulder pads, 304 00:14:06,998 --> 00:14:09,031 just sort of going through it. 305 00:14:09,031 --> 00:14:12,031 Now whether or not that passes and goes through, 306 00:14:12,031 --> 00:14:14,031 you know, I really don't know. 307 00:14:14,031 --> 00:14:15,698 But footballs a contact sport. 308 00:14:15,698 --> 00:14:19,398 And you know in order to get better week after week, 309 00:14:19,398 --> 00:14:22,398 after week, after week was somewhere along the line, 310 00:14:22,398 --> 00:14:24,731 you've got to have some tough drills. 311 00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:29,331 That's the reason I always felt like my teams got better as the 312 00:14:29,331 --> 00:14:32,731 year went along was, you know, we still had good. 313 00:14:32,731 --> 00:14:35,398 You know you can't go out there and be crazy. 314 00:14:35,398 --> 00:14:39,698 But just every once in a while, you got to have some contact if 315 00:14:39,698 --> 00:14:42,131 you're going to have some contact on Saturday. 316 00:14:42,131 --> 00:14:47,064 So can I assume wtih the changes they're making to the rules that 317 00:14:47,064 --> 00:14:49,731 not only do you not like that but maybe it's altered the game 318 00:14:49,731 --> 00:14:50,731 a bit? 319 00:14:50,731 --> 00:14:52,398 Well first of all, the head gear is used for protection. 320 00:14:52,398 --> 00:14:55,331 You know you got a head gear on and we're going to send you out 321 00:14:55,331 --> 00:14:56,331 to play. 322 00:14:56,331 --> 00:14:57,331 That's not a weapon. 323 00:14:57,331 --> 00:14:59,864 You know your head gear is not a weapon. 324 00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:03,264 You're not supposed to but somebody or spear somebody. 325 00:15:03,264 --> 00:15:08,698 And so much of the time, that's where your injuries come from. 326 00:15:08,698 --> 00:15:11,431 Your head gear is for protection. 327 00:15:11,431 --> 00:15:16,431 But somewhere along the line, $50,000 fine to a guy that's 328 00:15:16,431 --> 00:15:21,598 making five million dollars is not all that big a deal. 329 00:15:21,598 --> 00:15:23,698 But now if he has to sit out the whole year, 330 00:15:23,698 --> 00:15:26,498 it may become a big deal. 331 00:15:26,498 --> 00:15:28,498 I think the rules in place. 332 00:15:28,498 --> 00:15:31,931 We just have to enforce what the rules are. 333 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:35,464 And if they say don't use your head gear as a weapon, 334 00:15:35,464 --> 00:15:38,364 some where along the line that's got to be what it means. 335 00:15:38,364 --> 00:15:39,364 What's it like on the ranch? 336 00:15:39,364 --> 00:15:40,831 Well I enjoy it. 337 00:15:40,831 --> 00:15:42,998 I never have a day off. 338 00:15:42,998 --> 00:15:44,098 I raise cattle. 339 00:15:44,098 --> 00:15:47,731 And you know you're constantly trying to get your pastures 340 00:15:47,731 --> 00:15:48,731 better. 341 00:15:48,731 --> 00:15:49,731 You're working your cattle. 342 00:15:49,731 --> 00:15:52,131 You got some heffers that need something, 343 00:15:52,131 --> 00:15:54,298 ground that needs to be fertilized. 344 00:15:54,298 --> 00:15:56,498 You notice something all the time. 345 00:15:56,498 --> 00:16:00,498 It's like a team but they don't talk back to ya. 346 00:16:00,498 --> 00:16:02,331 That's a lot of time. 347 00:16:02,331 --> 00:16:04,131 And I thoroughly enjoyed it. 348 00:16:04,131 --> 00:16:07,398 When I was coaching at Texas A and M, 349 00:16:07,398 --> 00:16:08,864 I bought some land. 350 00:16:08,864 --> 00:16:13,298 I didn't know come here from sick 'em about running a ranch. 351 00:16:13,298 --> 00:16:17,598 But I knew that when I retired, I didn't want to move on a golf 352 00:16:17,598 --> 00:16:18,598 course. 353 00:16:18,598 --> 00:16:19,998 I didn't want to just do nothing. 354 00:16:19,998 --> 00:16:20,998 I've been active. 355 00:16:20,998 --> 00:16:23,564 It took me 40 years to get it paid for. 356 00:16:23,564 --> 00:16:26,364 But now I've got it paid for and I've retired and have a place to 357 00:16:26,364 --> 00:16:27,498 go to live. 358 00:16:27,498 --> 00:16:28,964 And that was a good decision. 359 00:16:28,964 --> 00:16:29,964 Well you look great. 360 00:16:29,964 --> 00:16:31,031 You sound great, Coach. 361 00:16:31,031 --> 00:16:32,631 It's been a pleasure having you on. 362 00:16:32,631 --> 00:16:35,198 I like to end all my interviews with something I call 'Five for 363 00:16:35,198 --> 00:16:36,198 the Road'. 364 00:16:36,198 --> 00:16:39,764 So it's quick questions -- first thing that comes to your mind. 365 00:16:39,764 --> 00:16:42,031 What's your favorite professional sports team in any 366 00:16:42,031 --> 00:16:43,031 sport? 367 00:16:43,031 --> 00:16:48,798 Obviously I used to like the Cowboys but not so much now. 368 00:16:48,798 --> 00:16:52,531 So that's I'd say probably the Rams. 369 00:16:52,531 --> 00:16:54,664 I liked the Cardinals. 370 00:16:54,664 --> 00:16:59,464 How about your favorite pro athlete of all time, 371 00:16:59,464 --> 00:17:01,064 maybe growing up? 372 00:17:01,064 --> 00:17:02,664 Probably Raymond Berry. 373 00:17:02,664 --> 00:17:03,964 Oh, wow! 374 00:17:03,964 --> 00:17:05,131 Raymond Berry was something. 375 00:17:05,131 --> 00:17:06,298 I'm a big Colts fan. 376 00:17:06,298 --> 00:17:08,798 Well Raymond and I went to high school together. 377 00:17:08,798 --> 00:17:11,831 One of the trivia questions in the N-F-L was what two head 378 00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:15,931 coaches went to the same high school and had the same head 379 00:17:15,931 --> 00:17:16,931 coach. 380 00:17:16,931 --> 00:17:17,931 And it was Raymond and I. 381 00:17:17,931 --> 00:17:18,931 Pretty good production. 382 00:17:18,931 --> 00:17:21,964 How about favorite music, musician -- what do you like to 383 00:17:21,964 --> 00:17:22,964 listen to? 384 00:17:22,964 --> 00:17:24,198 Well I'm country-western fan. 385 00:17:24,198 --> 00:17:28,998 And I'm not much of a music man. 386 00:17:28,998 --> 00:17:31,331 I don't have to get in the car and turn the radio on. 387 00:17:31,331 --> 00:17:34,298 A good country song now and again, 388 00:17:34,298 --> 00:17:35,298 right? 389 00:17:35,298 --> 00:17:38,198 And we lost a great one in George Jones just recently. 390 00:17:38,198 --> 00:17:40,064 Favorite movie of all time? 391 00:17:40,064 --> 00:17:41,064 Well I love "Patton". 392 00:17:41,064 --> 00:17:44,264 I thought that was a great movie. 393 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:47,731 And if I had to just pick one, I'm a John Wayne fan. 394 00:17:47,731 --> 00:17:50,164 I like all of his. 395 00:17:50,164 --> 00:17:51,864 But I'd say "Patton" probably. 396 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:55,164 And finally, your favorite television show of all time? 397 00:17:55,164 --> 00:17:58,864 You know what I like to watch? 398 00:17:58,864 --> 00:17:59,864 What? 399 00:17:59,864 --> 00:18:00,864 You're gonna laugh at this. 400 00:18:00,864 --> 00:18:01,864 "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?" 401 00:18:01,864 --> 00:18:03,131 (laughter) Is that not silly? 402 00:18:03,131 --> 00:18:05,998 But I enjoy watching that and, of course, 403 00:18:05,998 --> 00:18:07,498 "NCIS". 404 00:18:07,498 --> 00:18:09,798 If I'm just going to watch two, those would be the two that I 405 00:18:09,798 --> 00:18:10,798 watch. 406 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:13,731 I watch Fox News most of the time. 407 00:18:13,731 --> 00:18:16,064 But ti also reminds us of how smart these young kids are and 408 00:18:16,064 --> 00:18:18,364 how much we've forgotten over the years. 409 00:18:18,364 --> 00:18:19,498 Coach, thank you so much. 410 00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:20,498 Absolute pleasure. 411 00:18:20,498 --> 00:18:21,498 Thank you. 412 00:18:21,498 --> 00:18:22,498 Thank you, Gene. 413 00:18:22,498 --> 00:18:23,498 We'll take a quick break. 414 00:18:23,498 --> 00:18:25,331 When we return, our 'Overtime' segment. 415 00:18:25,331 --> 00:18:33,031 ♪♪♪ 416 00:18:33,031 --> 00:18:33,664 (male announcer) Three.. 417 00:18:33,664 --> 00:18:34,231 Two.. 418 00:18:34,231 --> 00:18:36,998 One.. 419 00:18:36,998 --> 00:18:38,531 [buzzer sounds] 420 00:18:38,531 --> 00:18:40,331 Athletes are always looking for that next hot 421 00:18:40,331 --> 00:18:43,198 training regiment to not only stay fit but to keep their 422 00:18:43,198 --> 00:18:44,464 workouts fresh. 423 00:18:44,464 --> 00:18:46,598 Situps and five-k's will never hurt, 424 00:18:46,598 --> 00:18:49,464 but that type of workout can certainly become monotonous. 425 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:51,531 Crossfit is something fresh. 426 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:54,798 And it's not just for sculpted athetes but for anyone looking 427 00:18:54,798 --> 00:18:55,898 to get in shape. 428 00:18:55,898 --> 00:18:58,531 Michelle Kinney is the owner of Crossfit Chickasaw, 429 00:18:58,531 --> 00:19:00,731 and she practices what she preaches. 430 00:19:00,731 --> 00:19:02,931 Next week Michelle will participate in the Crossfit 431 00:19:02,931 --> 00:19:05,831 games in California for the third time. 432 00:19:05,831 --> 00:19:08,798 She was a three sport Athlete at Mississippi State and a former 433 00:19:08,798 --> 00:19:11,764 standout at Saint Benedict High School in Cordova. 434 00:19:11,764 --> 00:19:14,464 Recently I spent some time with Michelle to find out more about 435 00:19:14,464 --> 00:19:17,731 her and the sport of Crossfit. 436 00:19:17,731 --> 00:19:19,164 Michelle, thank you so much for being with us. 437 00:19:19,164 --> 00:19:20,164 Thanks for being here. 438 00:19:20,164 --> 00:19:21,164 We appreciate it. 439 00:19:21,164 --> 00:19:22,864 Alright, give me the broad definition of Crossfit. 440 00:19:22,864 --> 00:19:25,564 Alright, broad definition of Crossfit is constantly varied 441 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:27,664 functional movements performed at high intensity. 442 00:19:27,664 --> 00:19:28,664 What! 443 00:19:28,664 --> 00:19:30,598 I know and it sounds like, you know, 444 00:19:30,598 --> 00:19:32,198 Webster's dicitonary definition. 445 00:19:32,198 --> 00:19:35,198 But what we're looking for is just training that's a 446 00:19:35,198 --> 00:19:37,898 well-rounded version of fitness in a varied format. 447 00:19:37,898 --> 00:19:39,898 So we're not just focused on weights. 448 00:19:39,898 --> 00:19:41,164 We're not just focused on endurance. 449 00:19:41,164 --> 00:19:42,964 We're not just focused on body weight strength. 450 00:19:42,964 --> 00:19:44,931 We're focused on all those things and creating a 451 00:19:44,931 --> 00:19:46,098 swell-rounded athlete. 452 00:19:46,098 --> 00:19:48,298 How long has this been around? 453 00:19:48,298 --> 00:19:50,731 Crossfit Chickasaw or Crossfit in general? 454 00:19:50,731 --> 00:19:51,731 Crossfit in general. 455 00:19:51,731 --> 00:19:52,731 Since '99. 456 00:19:52,731 --> 00:19:56,198 '98 I think it when the first people started doing Crossfit 457 00:19:56,198 --> 00:19:57,864 out in Santa Cruz, California. 458 00:19:57,864 --> 00:19:59,931 But Crossfit Chickasaw started May 18, 459 00:19:59,931 --> 00:20:00,931 2012. 460 00:20:00,931 --> 00:20:03,831 Yeah, everybody's looking for a way to make it more enjoyable 461 00:20:03,831 --> 00:20:06,898 working out, staying in shape, not just the old jumping jacks 462 00:20:06,898 --> 00:20:08,264 and push ups and sit ups. 463 00:20:08,264 --> 00:20:11,098 This seems to be a hot way to do that. 464 00:20:11,098 --> 00:20:12,098 Absolutely. 465 00:20:12,098 --> 00:20:14,598 It's in the constantly varied component kind of leads to that. 466 00:20:14,598 --> 00:20:17,398 So you're constantly engaged because it's always a different 467 00:20:17,398 --> 00:20:20,231 work out every time you step in to the gym. 468 00:20:20,231 --> 00:20:21,231 So you don't get bored. 469 00:20:21,231 --> 00:20:22,298 You don't get bored mentally and you don't get bored physically. 470 00:20:22,298 --> 00:20:24,698 So physically, you can plateau because you'e doing the same 471 00:20:24,698 --> 00:20:26,098 thing over and over again. 472 00:20:26,098 --> 00:20:28,864 And when you change it up a bit, you're constantly seeing those 473 00:20:28,864 --> 00:20:30,698 gains and it's very rewarding. 474 00:20:30,698 --> 00:20:33,498 How can you take the time out to do what you do? 475 00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:36,398 And now you're getting ready for your third Crossfit games, 476 00:20:36,398 --> 00:20:38,231 your third national compeititon. 477 00:20:38,231 --> 00:20:40,564 All the regional competitions you've been in while you're also 478 00:20:40,564 --> 00:20:41,564 running this place. 479 00:20:41,564 --> 00:20:43,498 This is yours, Crossfit Chickasaw. 480 00:20:43,498 --> 00:20:46,031 And I'm sure you're coaching a lot of people and helping them 481 00:20:46,031 --> 00:20:47,031 out. 482 00:20:47,031 --> 00:20:48,031 How do you find that time? 483 00:20:48,031 --> 00:20:50,931 Um, I have a business partner that helps me run things, 484 00:20:50,931 --> 00:20:51,931 Robby Fromin. 485 00:20:51,931 --> 00:20:54,831 And then our coaching staff has done a tremendous job picking up 486 00:20:54,831 --> 00:20:58,364 those classes, helping me out as far as the gym day-to-day stuff 487 00:20:58,364 --> 00:21:01,364 goes because I'm training quite a bit -- about four hours a day, 488 00:21:01,364 --> 00:21:02,364 six days a week. 489 00:21:02,364 --> 00:21:03,731 So it's heavy loading. 490 00:21:03,731 --> 00:21:05,964 So just in those four training hours, 491 00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:07,798 that's time devoted to trainging. 492 00:21:07,798 --> 00:21:10,798 But outside of that, I get tired and you know. 493 00:21:10,798 --> 00:21:13,998 But my staff and my business partner help me out a whole lot 494 00:21:13,998 --> 00:21:14,998 with that. 495 00:21:14,998 --> 00:21:15,998 Let's talk about next week in California, 496 00:21:15,998 --> 00:21:16,998 the Crossfit games. 497 00:21:16,998 --> 00:21:18,064 You've had two under your belt. 498 00:21:18,064 --> 00:21:21,464 How do you learn from them to make it a better result this 499 00:21:21,464 --> 00:21:22,464 time around? 500 00:21:22,464 --> 00:21:24,364 Well the first time, I was just totally starstruck. 501 00:21:24,364 --> 00:21:26,864 So it was just like, you know, a new kid, 502 00:21:26,864 --> 00:21:28,864 a kid in a candy store type thing. 503 00:21:28,864 --> 00:21:32,864 Now I know going in to it, my mind set that I'm as ready as I 504 00:21:32,864 --> 00:21:33,864 can be. 505 00:21:33,864 --> 00:21:34,864 So whatever they throw at me. 506 00:21:34,864 --> 00:21:36,198 We don't know what the events are, 507 00:21:36,198 --> 00:21:38,864 what they'll have us do. 508 00:21:38,864 --> 00:21:41,431 I'm going to do it to the best of my ability and just accept 509 00:21:41,431 --> 00:21:42,831 the outcome however that may be. 510 00:21:42,831 --> 00:21:44,098 But basically, full effort. 511 00:21:44,098 --> 00:21:46,598 You don't know what it's going to be? 512 00:21:46,598 --> 00:21:47,598 Right. 513 00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:48,598 I don't understand. 514 00:21:48,598 --> 00:21:49,598 You take the stage and then they say, 515 00:21:49,598 --> 00:21:50,598 "Do this." 516 00:21:50,598 --> 00:21:51,598 Pretty much, pretty much. 517 00:21:51,598 --> 00:21:54,664 They, um, you know we have three to four days of competitions. 518 00:21:54,664 --> 00:21:55,664 They won't let us know. 519 00:21:55,664 --> 00:21:57,364 They won't let us know how many events. 520 00:21:57,364 --> 00:21:59,931 They'll usually tell us what an event is maybe the night before 521 00:21:59,931 --> 00:22:01,264 or maybe two hours before. 522 00:22:01,264 --> 00:22:03,831 We just have to be ready for anything and everything. 523 00:22:03,831 --> 00:22:05,564 Three days of competition you said? 524 00:22:05,564 --> 00:22:08,031 It's officially three days of competition but last year, 525 00:22:08,031 --> 00:22:11,064 they surprised the athletes with a fourth day of competition. 526 00:22:11,064 --> 00:22:12,731 And so I'm just anticipating. 527 00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:14,198 They're full of surprises! 528 00:22:14,198 --> 00:22:15,364 They are! 529 00:22:15,364 --> 00:22:18,698 What do you think your strongest area is and the one area you 530 00:22:18,698 --> 00:22:19,798 really need to work on? 531 00:22:19,798 --> 00:22:21,698 The strongest area is absolutely endurance. 532 00:22:21,698 --> 00:22:23,098 I have an endurance background. 533 00:22:23,098 --> 00:22:26,398 I ran cross country in high school and in college. 534 00:22:26,398 --> 00:22:28,831 So endurance is really a strong suit of mine. 535 00:22:28,831 --> 00:22:31,398 Weight lifting is going to be the other end of the spectrum. 536 00:22:31,398 --> 00:22:35,131 It's my weakness so I've been constantly training strength and 537 00:22:35,131 --> 00:22:37,231 trying to get that weakness a little bit better. 538 00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:39,331 But those are the two ends of the spectrum there. 539 00:22:39,331 --> 00:22:40,331 You mentiooned high school. 540 00:22:40,331 --> 00:22:41,931 You've been an athlete all your life, 541 00:22:41,931 --> 00:22:44,464 Saint Benedict High School and Mississippi State. 542 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:45,464 Right. 543 00:22:45,464 --> 00:22:46,898 Three different sports at Mississippi State. 544 00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:49,698 What was that like juggling academics and athletics? 545 00:22:49,698 --> 00:22:51,931 Um, I was, I guess, really focused. 546 00:22:51,931 --> 00:22:55,231 Mississippi State does a great job with their student-athletes 547 00:22:55,231 --> 00:22:57,798 to make sure that the academics are the focus, 548 00:22:57,798 --> 00:22:59,064 believe it or not. 549 00:22:59,064 --> 00:23:01,631 But yeah, it was just a fun time. 550 00:23:01,631 --> 00:23:02,931 It just was easy. 551 00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:05,498 I mean just playing ball and enjoying it, 552 00:23:05,498 --> 00:23:08,098 running and enjoying that, and then getting work done on the 553 00:23:08,098 --> 00:23:09,098 side. 554 00:23:09,098 --> 00:23:10,564 Softball, cross country, track and field? 555 00:23:10,564 --> 00:23:11,564 Correct. 556 00:23:11,564 --> 00:23:12,564 What were your events in track and field? 557 00:23:12,564 --> 00:23:14,798 three-thousand meter steeple chase and javelin. 558 00:23:14,798 --> 00:23:17,331 What would you say to somebody out there who's watching you 559 00:23:17,331 --> 00:23:18,664 right now and they're like, "Wait a minute. 560 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:20,398 "I like what she's saying. 561 00:23:20,398 --> 00:23:21,398 "I want to get involved." 562 00:23:21,398 --> 00:23:23,364 How do they get involved at Crossfit? 563 00:23:23,364 --> 00:23:25,298 Oh, they just got to send me an e-mail or walk through our 564 00:23:25,298 --> 00:23:26,298 doors. 565 00:23:26,298 --> 00:23:27,298 I'll tell them all about it. 566 00:23:27,298 --> 00:23:28,298 I'll talk their ear off. 567 00:23:28,298 --> 00:23:29,964 But we start everybody off in our fundamentals program. 568 00:23:29,964 --> 00:23:31,764 So a lot of people are a lilttle intimidated. 569 00:23:31,764 --> 00:23:33,231 Regardless of gender or background, 570 00:23:33,231 --> 00:23:34,231 we can help them out. 571 00:23:34,231 --> 00:23:36,264 So they just need to walk through our doors. 572 00:23:36,264 --> 00:23:37,831 We'll put them through our fundamentals program, 573 00:23:37,831 --> 00:23:41,064 a really small group where we teach them the movements and get 574 00:23:41,064 --> 00:23:42,298 them ready for our big program. 575 00:23:42,298 --> 00:23:45,231 Well with that said with the fundamentals, 576 00:23:45,231 --> 00:23:46,231 give me an idea. 577 00:23:46,231 --> 00:23:47,964 Talk about some of the actual things. 578 00:23:47,964 --> 00:23:49,598 We see ropes here. 579 00:23:49,598 --> 00:23:51,298 We see rings here. 580 00:23:51,298 --> 00:23:52,464 A couple of specfiics. 581 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:55,298 Yeah, the fundamentals doesn't involved those scary things that 582 00:23:55,298 --> 00:23:57,031 catch your eye right when you walk in the door. 583 00:23:57,031 --> 00:23:59,698 Just the basic air squats movement one that we cover. 584 00:23:59,698 --> 00:24:01,264 And if you don't get the air squat down, 585 00:24:01,264 --> 00:24:02,264 we don't move on. 586 00:24:02,264 --> 00:24:04,531 We don't progress to the more complicated movements until 587 00:24:04,531 --> 00:24:07,298 we're certain that you're moving with that air squat well. 588 00:24:07,298 --> 00:24:09,664 because if your squats not good, we don't want ot load it with a 589 00:24:09,664 --> 00:24:11,864 barbell and set you up for injury. 590 00:24:11,864 --> 00:24:14,931 So we're more about mechanics before we do volume or 591 00:24:14,931 --> 00:24:16,064 intensity. 592 00:24:16,064 --> 00:24:18,364 What is your goal for next week? 593 00:24:18,364 --> 00:24:22,064 Um, just literally give it my best and have fun because when 594 00:24:22,064 --> 00:24:25,898 the fun left Crossfit for a bit, it wasn't fun. 595 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:27,064 That sounds pretty obvious. 596 00:24:27,064 --> 00:24:29,531 But I want to have fun and I want to do the best that I can 597 00:24:29,531 --> 00:24:31,798 out there and enjoy every minute of it because this is a very 598 00:24:31,798 --> 00:24:33,164 special place to be. 599 00:24:33,164 --> 00:24:35,698 I missed out on it last year and I just want to soak it all up 600 00:24:35,698 --> 00:24:36,698 this year. 601 00:24:36,698 --> 00:24:38,498 So I would imagine there are some that don't feel the same 602 00:24:38,498 --> 00:24:40,931 way you do, that they're in it for the strict competition to 603 00:24:40,931 --> 00:24:41,964 win it all. 604 00:24:41,964 --> 00:24:44,798 And maybe they don;t enjoy it which they should. 605 00:24:44,798 --> 00:24:45,798 Oh, no doubt. 606 00:24:45,798 --> 00:24:46,931 I mean I'm a competitor. 607 00:24:46,931 --> 00:24:49,331 I want to win just with the best of them. 608 00:24:49,331 --> 00:24:51,464 But like I said, we don't know what's coming. 609 00:24:51,464 --> 00:24:53,064 So I don't know what to expect. 610 00:24:53,064 --> 00:24:55,564 So I just know that I can only give all that I've got. 611 00:24:55,564 --> 00:24:58,564 And if I do that, I'll be victorious. 612 00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:00,464 In the final days leading up to it, 613 00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:03,364 will you train harder, more or less? 614 00:25:03,364 --> 00:25:04,664 Absolutely not. 615 00:25:04,664 --> 00:25:07,998 I think actually starting about a week out from the perceived 616 00:25:07,998 --> 00:25:09,898 date that we're going to start, I'm going to really start to 617 00:25:09,898 --> 00:25:12,131 taper and dial back my training. 618 00:25:12,131 --> 00:25:13,931 My volume is really high right now. 619 00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:16,264 I'm getting at least 12 training sessions in a week. 620 00:25:16,264 --> 00:25:18,831 So I need to have some energy come game time. 621 00:25:18,831 --> 00:25:20,031 Absolutely. 622 00:25:20,031 --> 00:25:21,531 Michelle, enjoy yourself out there like you said. 623 00:25:21,531 --> 00:25:22,398 Have fun. 624 00:25:22,398 --> 00:25:22,964 Best of luck. 625 00:25:22,964 --> 00:25:23,398 Thanks, Greg. 626 00:25:23,398 --> 00:25:23,964 Great meeting you. 627 00:25:23,964 --> 00:25:25,831 Great meeting you! 628 00:25:25,831 --> 00:25:28,498 And best of luck to Michelle as we hope the third time for her 629 00:25:28,498 --> 00:25:29,731 will be the charm. 630 00:25:29,731 --> 00:25:31,698 And that will do it for this week's show. 631 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:34,231 As always, you can see any of our previous shows by heading to 632 00:25:34,231 --> 00:25:38,464 our website, WKNO-dot-org, and clicking on KNO Tonite. 633 00:25:38,464 --> 00:25:41,631 Have a great week, and we'll see you next time. 634 00:25:41,631 --> 00:25:55,464 ♪♪♪ 635 00:25:55,464 --> 00:25:59,464 Closed Captions provided by WKNO - Memphis.