WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.731 This is a production of WKNO-Memphis. 00:02.731 --> 00:06.064 Production funding for 'Sports Files' is made possible in part 00:06.064 --> 00:15.331 by.. 00:15.331 --> 00:17.764 My guest today on Sports Files is the Head Coach of the Memphis 00:17.764 --> 00:20.064 Grizzlies Lionel Hollins. 00:20.064 --> 00:36.464 ♪♪♪ 00:36.464 --> 00:39.031 The Grizzlies find themselves down two games to none to the LA 00:39.031 --> 00:41.898 Clippers in their best of seven first round playoff series. 00:41.898 --> 00:45.431 Game three is taking place at FedExForum as we speak. 00:45.431 --> 00:47.398 In game one the Grizz were embarrassed by their 00:47.398 --> 00:50.231 counterparts but came back strong in game two, 00:50.231 --> 00:53.931 only to lose on a last second off balance bank shot by Clips 00:53.931 --> 00:56.031 superstar guard Chris Paul. 00:56.031 --> 00:59.298 To win this series and advance the Grizz now have to win four 00:59.298 --> 01:00.698 of the remaining five games. 01:00.698 --> 01:03.031 A tall order to say the least. 01:03.031 --> 01:04.698 But no matter what happens the rest of the way, 01:04.698 --> 01:08.298 the biggest question for the team this off season is arguably 01:08.298 --> 01:10.331 the fate of Head Coach Lionel Hollins. 01:10.331 --> 01:12.564 His contract runs out at season's end, 01:12.564 --> 01:16.098 and CEO Jason Levien has made no indication on whether or not the 01:16.098 --> 01:19.031 organization plans to re-sign the veteran coach. 01:19.031 --> 01:22.131 Levien became the CEO and managing partner of the Grizz 01:22.131 --> 01:25.631 just prior to the start of the season and understandably wants 01:25.631 --> 01:28.064 ample time to evaluate Hollins. 01:28.064 --> 01:30.431 Now there's no telling what Levien is looking for, 01:30.431 --> 01:33.098 or whether or not The Grizz have to advance in the playoffs for 01:33.098 --> 01:34.631 Hollins to get a new deal. 01:34.631 --> 01:38.231 If the decision was solely based on the regular season then it's 01:38.231 --> 01:39.231 a no-brainer. 01:39.231 --> 01:42.064 The team set franchise records for total wins in a season with 01:42.064 --> 01:43.164 56. 01:43.164 --> 01:46.664 In addition they set marks for home and road victories. 01:46.664 --> 01:49.364 Today I go one on one with the coach of the Grizzlies. 01:49.364 --> 01:52.198 A man who speaks his mind and is not afraid to ruffle some 01:52.198 --> 01:53.198 feathers. 01:53.198 --> 01:54.931 It's Lionel Hollins on the season, 01:54.931 --> 02:00.631 the challenge of beating the Clippers and his future next on 02:00.631 --> 02:02.664 'Sports Files'. 02:02.664 --> 02:10.364 ♪♪♪ 02:10.364 --> 02:12.031 Well Lionel, thank you so much for spenidng some time with me. 02:12.031 --> 02:13.431 I appreciate it. 02:13.431 --> 02:18.498 56 wins for everything that's going down this season with off 02:18.498 --> 02:21.364 the court, on the court, player personnel changes. 02:21.364 --> 02:23.698 You have to be very impressed with what this team was able to 02:23.698 --> 02:24.698 do. 02:24.698 --> 02:26.398 Well, I'm happy with what we've accomplished. 02:26.398 --> 02:27.398 I told them that last night. 02:27.398 --> 02:32.131 I said, "You know, we've overcome a lot of adversity and 02:32.131 --> 02:36.264 we were able to survive and keep going and be in strong as it is 02:36.264 --> 02:39.164 a testiment to your character, to your mental toughness and 02:39.164 --> 02:40.798 your will to want to win." 02:40.798 --> 02:44.031 And it's been a hard season. 02:44.031 --> 02:49.631 I mean, we started out with double D's death on opening day 02:49.631 --> 02:50.631 of training camp. 02:50.631 --> 02:55.231 And then Kenny Williamson passed away shortly after that. 02:55.231 --> 02:58.631 And we had already dealt with Gene Bartow's death last year. 02:58.631 --> 02:59.564 Right. 02:59.564 --> 03:01.464 And then there was the ownership change. 03:01.464 --> 03:04.764 And we had a couple of players who had family members passed 03:04.764 --> 03:06.631 away during the season. 03:06.631 --> 03:11.531 And then, you know, all the trade rumors swirling around, 03:11.531 --> 03:12.531 the trades. 03:12.531 --> 03:17.431 And then Mike Heisley having a stroke and going in a coma. 03:17.431 --> 03:20.498 And adding all the new players that we added. 03:20.498 --> 03:24.698 But I always said that when you go through adversity, 03:24.698 --> 03:26.464 it really shows what you're made of. 03:26.464 --> 03:31.864 And when you still succeed, it is very gratifying. 03:31.864 --> 03:34.764 And the other thing is that everybody has a story. 03:34.764 --> 03:37.698 And the people that succeed are talking about what they 03:37.698 --> 03:38.698 overcame. 03:38.698 --> 03:40.664 And the people that fell are talking about what kept them 03:40.664 --> 03:41.764 from being success. 03:41.764 --> 03:47.164 And you know, it's powerful to go and tell what you overcame 03:47.164 --> 03:49.098 and still became a success. 03:49.098 --> 03:51.131 And I thought we had a very successful season. 03:51.131 --> 03:53.698 With all that said, all the things you brought up, 03:53.698 --> 03:56.898 is this the most gratifying coaching season for you? 03:56.898 --> 03:59.431 And was it the most challenging as well? 03:59.431 --> 04:02.031 They're all challenging and I wouldn't say the most and most 04:02.031 --> 04:03.031 gratifying. 04:03.031 --> 04:04.898 Every year is gratifying because every year is different. 04:04.898 --> 04:08.431 Every year has it's own challenges and you always have 04:08.431 --> 04:10.264 adversity that you have to deal with. 04:10.264 --> 04:12.898 And you know, we've had injuries in the past. 04:12.898 --> 04:15.431 And we've had to deal with those things. 04:15.431 --> 04:21.431 And you know, they're probably, I won't say the most. 04:21.431 --> 04:24.531 We had a lot of stuff to go off, a lot of different things. 04:24.531 --> 04:27.231 And some of it, you know, is out of your control. 04:27.231 --> 04:29.131 And you know, you just keep going. 04:29.131 --> 04:33.298 But when somebody gets injured and misses the whole season or 04:33.298 --> 04:36.731 misses a big part of the season like we had Zach get hurt last 04:36.731 --> 04:37.731 year. 04:37.731 --> 04:39.931 You know, that was a lot to overcome. 04:39.931 --> 04:44.898 And you know, we've been where Rudy Gay gets hurt just before 04:44.898 --> 04:46.064 the trade deadline. 04:46.064 --> 04:48.831 And we overcome that. 04:48.831 --> 04:52.631 So every year it's something and it's all gratifying when you 04:52.631 --> 04:53.964 overcome and succeed. 04:53.964 --> 04:56.164 You build up this incredible chemistry especially with the 04:56.164 --> 04:57.164 core players. 04:57.164 --> 04:58.698 And I remember the old mid season, 04:58.698 --> 05:00.164 the trade is made. 05:00.164 --> 05:03.798 And there were a couple of tough games right off the bat with the 05:03.798 --> 05:05.731 new players coming in which is to be expected. 05:05.731 --> 05:09.698 But the chemsitry you found very quickly with Tayshaun 05:09.698 --> 05:12.264 coming in and Austin and Ed. 05:12.264 --> 05:13.831 Why did it seem easy? 05:13.831 --> 05:16.031 I know it probably wasn't but to us watching, 05:16.031 --> 05:18.731 it seemed like that chemistry came together very quickly. 05:18.731 --> 05:22.464 Well, I think that it's a testiment to who they are. 05:22.464 --> 05:26.198 Tayshaun, Ed and Austin are all good kids. 05:26.198 --> 05:29.698 And our players took to them right away and embraced them and 05:29.698 --> 05:32.231 tried to help them with their learning curve. 05:32.231 --> 05:36.131 And they were willing to allow us to coach them and try to 05:36.131 --> 05:37.131 help. 05:37.131 --> 05:38.131 They didn't come in with an ego and say, 05:38.131 --> 05:39.498 "I need this", "I need that". 05:39.498 --> 05:41.331 They just fit in where ever they could. 05:41.331 --> 05:44.231 And their roles have kept expanding as we've gone along. 05:44.231 --> 05:45.864 As I've gotten more comfortable with them, 05:45.864 --> 05:48.231 the players have gotten more comfortable with them. 05:48.231 --> 05:50.698 And we understand what they bring to the party a little 05:50.698 --> 05:51.698 more. 05:51.698 --> 05:53.798 They've contributed more. 05:53.798 --> 05:56.931 The Clippers first round, the team you played last year in the 05:56.931 --> 05:59.131 first round and lost a tough seven-game series to them. 05:59.131 --> 06:01.964 What makes them such a difficult opponent? 06:01.964 --> 06:03.464 They're talented. 06:03.464 --> 06:05.364 They have one of the best power forwards in the game and they 06:05.364 --> 06:06.864 have one of the best point guards in the game. 06:06.864 --> 06:09.764 I mean, they have a lot of role players that are pretty good. 06:09.764 --> 06:12.398 I mean, Jamal Crawford has been six man of the year before. 06:12.398 --> 06:13.398 Right. 06:13.398 --> 06:15.364 And he's a very talented kid. 06:15.364 --> 06:20.364 You know, Deandre Jordan is an up and coming center who is long 06:20.364 --> 06:23.364 and blocks shots and atheltic, runs the court very well. 06:23.364 --> 06:24.364 They added Lamar Odum. 06:24.364 --> 06:25.498 They added Grant Hill. 06:25.498 --> 06:27.864 They have Chauncy Billups who's won championships. 06:27.864 --> 06:31.098 When you start going down the list of players they have, 06:31.098 --> 06:35.764 they have a lot of players that have had very good resumes. 06:35.764 --> 06:40.298 And so, talent makes them tough and they're competitive will 06:40.298 --> 06:41.298 makes them tough. 06:41.298 --> 06:43.964 And what's interesting is just the year seperating the last 06:43.964 --> 06:45.764 time you played them in the play-offs, 06:45.764 --> 06:47.898 a lot of the cast of characters have changed for them. 06:47.898 --> 06:51.031 Some of the role players that were instrumental in helping 06:51.031 --> 06:52.864 them beat you last year are gone. 06:52.864 --> 06:54.964 So the personnel has changed a bit for them. 06:54.964 --> 06:56.698 Well, that happens every year. 06:56.698 --> 06:58.031 That's why I said people talk about, 06:58.031 --> 07:00.564 "Well, you had a losing streak against this team for the last." 07:00.564 --> 07:02.431 Well, everybody's not here. 07:02.431 --> 07:05.031 You know, the guys that are here don't know about that and really 07:05.031 --> 07:06.031 don't care about it. 07:06.031 --> 07:07.031 It just it is. 07:07.031 --> 07:08.431 And it's the same now because, you know, 07:08.431 --> 07:09.464 every year, things change. 07:09.464 --> 07:12.431 We have a lot of personnel turn over from last year as well. 07:12.431 --> 07:13.864 I think they went a little quicker. 07:13.864 --> 07:23.598 They had Martin and they had Reggie Evans who are two banged 07:23.598 --> 07:27.464 and really were physical with us last year. 07:27.464 --> 07:30.164 Both of those guys are gone but they brought in Lamar Odum who 07:30.164 --> 07:35.164 can play and shoot threes on the ball and transition and become a 07:35.164 --> 07:38.798 more of another play maker for their team as they have enough 07:38.798 --> 07:39.731 already. 07:39.731 --> 07:41.831 But they add another guy. 07:41.831 --> 07:44.531 So, you know, they have the improvement of the players that 07:44.531 --> 07:45.364 are remaining. 07:45.364 --> 07:47.364 Deandre Jordan has made significant improvment. 07:47.364 --> 07:49.398 So has Blake Griffin. 07:49.398 --> 07:53.931 And so they become better just from within and with the 07:53.931 --> 07:55.198 additions that they made. 07:55.198 --> 07:57.631 We talked earlier about some of the changes that you guys have 07:57.631 --> 07:58.631 made. 07:58.631 --> 08:01.164 This is not a change but a big difference from going in to the 08:01.164 --> 08:03.864 play-offs last year and this year is a.. 08:03.864 --> 08:08.064 It seems like a 100 percent healthy Zach Randolph as opposed 08:08.064 --> 08:09.864 to the situation he was in last year. 08:09.864 --> 08:10.864 Well, of course. 08:10.864 --> 08:12.331 I mean, Zach had just come back. 08:12.331 --> 08:16.131 I think we had like six or seven games before the season ended 08:16.131 --> 08:18.198 and he was coming off the bench until the last season. 08:18.198 --> 08:21.498 And he really wasn't ready strength wise and conditioning 08:21.498 --> 08:23.798 wise to be what he wanted to be. 08:23.798 --> 08:27.831 So you know, that was a little bit of a glitch in our game 08:27.831 --> 08:28.831 plan. 08:28.831 --> 08:32.098 But you know, we had a good year and it was a tough play-off 08:32.098 --> 08:33.298 series and they are going to win. 08:33.298 --> 08:35.631 You know, people talk, "Well, you blew a 27 if you hadn't done 08:35.631 --> 08:37.264 that.' Well, we did. 08:37.264 --> 08:38.298 That's all part of it. 08:38.298 --> 08:41.464 And you know, we went to LA and beat them in LA. 08:41.464 --> 08:43.631 And then we came home and we couldn't win in the seventh game 08:43.631 --> 08:44.631 at home. 08:44.631 --> 08:45.731 We didn't play particularly well. 08:45.731 --> 08:48.298 And they earned the right to move on. 08:48.298 --> 08:51.931 And you know, here we are at it again. 08:51.931 --> 08:56.031 Contrasting styles for the most part but I would think you look 08:56.031 --> 08:59.364 at the series as a pretty evenly matched up series. 08:59.364 --> 09:01.364 Oh, it's been evenly matched up. 09:01.364 --> 09:03.931 You know, even during the season. 09:03.931 --> 09:06.798 You know, they've beaten us three our of four times but the 09:06.798 --> 09:08.531 games are often relatively close. 09:08.531 --> 09:11.964 And you know, they.. 09:11.964 --> 09:13.664 As they said the last game they had here, 09:13.664 --> 09:15.798 they had been talking about it for a week. 09:15.798 --> 09:17.231 And they wanted that game. 09:17.231 --> 09:22.231 And they almost gave it back playing Sacramento last game of 09:22.231 --> 09:23.231 the season. 09:23.231 --> 09:24.864 But they overcame and they got home court advantage. 09:24.864 --> 09:27.231 You guys, and I'm sure you're probably not in to this. 09:27.231 --> 09:32.864 But does the team look at LA as their rival, 09:32.864 --> 09:33.864 their main rival? 09:33.864 --> 09:34.864 Is it Oklahoma City? 09:34.864 --> 09:36.364 Do they even care about something like that or is that 09:36.364 --> 09:37.398 something for the fans? 09:37.398 --> 09:38.831 I don't know who the main rival is. 09:38.831 --> 09:40.864 I thought, you know, a couple of years ago it was supposed to be 09:40.864 --> 09:42.364 Oklahoma City. 09:42.364 --> 09:44.031 You know, now it's the Clippers, You know, 09:44.031 --> 09:45.531 when you play somebody in the play-offs, 09:45.531 --> 09:48.131 it becomes a rivalry for a while. 09:48.131 --> 09:51.464 But this one's going to grow because we're going to play them 09:51.464 --> 09:52.664 two straight years in the play-offs. 09:52.664 --> 09:55.064 So it could develop in to one. 09:55.064 --> 09:57.864 Lionel, the development of Mike Conley is incredible. 09:57.864 --> 09:59.064 We know what he can do on the court. 09:59.064 --> 10:02.331 He's become now, seems like more of a scorer. 10:02.331 --> 10:03.764 Once the trade was made with Rudy, 10:03.764 --> 10:06.498 he's taken big shots down the stretch in close games. 10:06.498 --> 10:07.798 But his leadership also. 10:07.798 --> 10:09.331 We're seeing the leadership of Mike Conley. 10:09.331 --> 10:10.864 Can you talk about his development? 10:10.864 --> 10:12.598 Well, it's all growth and maturity. 10:12.598 --> 10:13.698 I mean, when he came in the league, 10:13.698 --> 10:16.164 he was a 19-year-old kid, you know, 10:16.164 --> 10:19.864 weighed about 165 pounds and wasn't really ready for the NBA. 10:19.864 --> 10:21.698 And you know, he's matured. 10:21.698 --> 10:25.331 He's worked on his shooting to become a fabulous shooter. 10:25.331 --> 10:26.931 He worked on defense. 10:26.931 --> 10:28.564 He worked on his body. 10:28.564 --> 10:31.631 And as he's been around and you get comfortable with the people 10:31.631 --> 10:35.898 you're around and they start allowing you to be yourself and 10:35.898 --> 10:37.464 allowing you to lead. 10:37.464 --> 10:41.698 And he's stepped up in that area as well. 10:41.698 --> 10:47.564 How can you look back at a season after you put together 10:47.564 --> 10:49.664 the season you did winning 56 games, 10:49.664 --> 10:50.998 setting records for home victory, 10:50.998 --> 10:54.098 setting records for wins on the road. 10:54.098 --> 10:57.631 But if you lose this series, is it a disappointment? 10:57.631 --> 10:59.331 Is it still successful season? 10:59.331 --> 11:00.764 How do you look back at it? 11:00.764 --> 11:03.298 Well, losing the series would be disappointing but they still had 11:03.298 --> 11:04.298 a successful season. 11:04.298 --> 11:08.164 Every team that goes in is going to lose a play-off series at 11:08.164 --> 11:09.164 some point. 11:09.164 --> 11:10.164 Except for one, right? 11:10.164 --> 11:11.164 Except for one. 11:11.164 --> 11:15.564 And people have expectations because of your record. 11:15.564 --> 11:19.464 And you know, a few years ago, San Antonio won 61 games. 11:19.464 --> 11:22.798 They lost to us in the first round. 11:22.798 --> 11:23.798 It happens. 11:23.798 --> 11:26.264 You got to go out and win and it doesn't matter what your record 11:26.264 --> 11:27.264 is. 11:27.264 --> 11:28.431 It doesn't matter what your seeding is. 11:28.431 --> 11:30.364 It doesn't matter about home court advantage. 11:30.364 --> 11:34.298 It means you know, you start out and you get the first two games 11:34.298 --> 11:36.864 at home and you have the seventh game home if it goes seven 11:36.864 --> 11:37.864 games. 11:37.864 --> 11:41.498 But it's not a guarantee of winning anything. 11:41.498 --> 11:44.598 And too often, people go, "Oh, they got the number one seed." 11:44.598 --> 11:46.264 "They're going to win the championship." 11:46.264 --> 11:48.598 Doesn't mean that Oklahoma City is going to win the championship 11:48.598 --> 11:49.598 for having the number one seed. 11:49.598 --> 11:51.864 They've got to go through the process just like every body 11:51.864 --> 11:52.864 else. 11:52.864 --> 11:53.864 Exactly. 11:53.864 --> 11:55.131 How do people around the country whether it be in the media or 11:55.131 --> 11:57.231 just fans in general are starting to catch on to this 11:57.231 --> 11:59.464 Grizzlies team, this Grit and Grind, 11:59.464 --> 12:02.064 this physical team that goes out there and brings their lunch 12:02.064 --> 12:03.398 pail to basketball games? 12:03.398 --> 12:07.664 And you may not care Lionel, but do you feel you get the credit 12:07.664 --> 12:10.864 that you deserve as a team, as a very formidable team? 12:10.864 --> 12:13.631 Well, Obviously media in general, 12:13.631 --> 12:17.698 especially the national media, they don't know every team and 12:17.698 --> 12:19.031 what they have. 12:19.031 --> 12:23.764 They know the star-studded teams, 12:23.764 --> 12:26.831 you know, Oklahoma City with Durant and Westbrook, 12:26.831 --> 12:28.031 Miami. 12:28.031 --> 12:29.331 Paul with the Clippers. 12:29.331 --> 12:32.731 Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant with the Lakers and Howard and Nash. 12:32.731 --> 12:36.664 I mean, those guys are going to the championship in LA when the 12:36.664 --> 12:37.664 trades were made. 12:37.664 --> 12:39.164 But you know, it's.. 12:39.164 --> 12:41.531 you've got to go play. 12:41.531 --> 12:43.831 And it doesn't matter what people think of you. 12:43.831 --> 12:47.531 It's what you think of yourself and what your opponents think of 12:47.531 --> 12:49.198 you after they've played you. 12:49.198 --> 12:50.364 That's really important. 12:50.364 --> 12:53.098 You go out there and you make them come and pat you on the 12:53.098 --> 12:56.464 butt, win or lose, and let them know that they've been in a dog 12:56.464 --> 13:00.398 fight and that you're going to be there every night and they're 13:00.398 --> 13:01.764 going to have to bring their best to beat you. 13:01.764 --> 13:02.764 And that's what's important. 13:02.764 --> 13:06.531 Right, this interview is airing during game three. 13:06.531 --> 13:09.531 And game four coming up this Saturday at FedEx Forum, 13:09.531 --> 13:14.831 the home court with the fans euphoria in Memphis about this 13:14.831 --> 13:15.831 team. 13:15.831 --> 13:18.464 How imporant is it that you play the gamed the game a long time 13:18.464 --> 13:21.731 to have that in the back ground, to hear the cheers for you? 13:21.731 --> 13:26.798 Well, you derive energy from it when you come in. 13:26.798 --> 13:31.398 As soon as you come in and the crowd is all in white and the 13:31.398 --> 13:34.164 towels are swirling and the crowd is loud. 13:34.164 --> 13:39.098 And everything you do is, you know, 13:39.098 --> 13:40.098 honored. 13:40.098 --> 13:41.098 Right. 13:41.098 --> 13:42.531 You know, when you go on the road, 13:42.531 --> 13:44.098 it's a totally different story. 13:44.098 --> 13:45.898 But it's nice to go on the road and, 13:45.898 --> 13:50.564 you know, make the crowd be quiet. 13:50.564 --> 13:54.064 So you know, it's a little bit of both. 13:54.064 --> 13:55.064 Exactly. 13:55.064 --> 13:57.731 I think, you know, certain players play better when the 13:57.731 --> 14:01.631 crowd roars every time they do something well. 14:01.631 --> 14:03.231 Bad call, everybody boos. 14:03.231 --> 14:04.864 You know, good call, everybody cheers. 14:04.864 --> 14:06.798 Somebody get in the third fire, everybody cheers. 14:06.798 --> 14:10.264 But the reality is you got to still go out there and play and 14:10.264 --> 14:12.431 earn those wins at home or on the road. 14:12.431 --> 14:14.298 And the good teams do that. 14:14.298 --> 14:16.998 And that's why, you know, looking at our team and this 14:16.998 --> 14:20.331 year, we won 24 games on the road. 14:20.331 --> 14:22.531 And we won 32 games at home. 14:22.531 --> 14:23.731 We earn those wins. 14:23.731 --> 14:26.631 And when we lost, we earned those losses whether we play 14:26.631 --> 14:29.331 well or didn't come out ready or whatever may be the case, 14:29.331 --> 14:31.164 we earn those losses and we earn those wins. 14:31.164 --> 14:32.898 And when you get to the play-offs, 14:32.898 --> 14:33.898 it's the same thing. 14:33.898 --> 14:36.964 Let me take a step back from the match-up and talk about you 14:36.964 --> 14:37.964 personally. 14:37.964 --> 14:40.531 You've been in this community a long time and you've done an 14:40.531 --> 14:42.231 awful lot for the community. 14:42.231 --> 14:44.831 Lionel Hollins charities is very important to you. 14:44.831 --> 14:47.464 Can you talk a little bit about that? 14:47.464 --> 14:50.798 Well, it's just something that being here from the beginning, 14:50.798 --> 14:52.198 wanting to get involved with the community. 14:52.198 --> 14:54.131 I didn't know the community very well. 14:54.131 --> 14:55.131 They didn't know me. 14:55.131 --> 14:58.698 I was just an assistant coach and I started a bowling event. 14:58.698 --> 15:03.798 And it has taken off and it's spawned other events. 15:03.798 --> 15:05.731 My role models dinner. 15:05.731 --> 15:11.531 We also have a big gala the night before the bowling event. 15:11.531 --> 15:16.398 I started giving away bikes at Christmas time for, 15:16.398 --> 15:18.231 you know, under served kids. 15:18.231 --> 15:22.364 And we're just trying to grow, partner with.. 15:22.364 --> 15:24.164 FedEx, I mean Saint Jude's.. 15:24.164 --> 15:25.398 Saint Jude. 15:25.398 --> 15:27.498 I have to get that right. 15:27.498 --> 15:28.498 Yes, exactly. 15:28.498 --> 15:31.164 And you know, when I was out of basketball, 15:31.164 --> 15:33.031 I did some stuff for Saint Jude. 15:33.031 --> 15:35.731 And now that I'm the head coach, you know, 15:35.731 --> 15:39.164 I try to do as much as I can whenever I can for them and help 15:39.164 --> 15:40.264 raise money. 15:40.264 --> 15:43.831 They're important in our community and also nationally 15:43.831 --> 15:47.731 and internationally in helping the fight against cancer and 15:47.731 --> 15:48.998 especially childhood cancer. 15:48.998 --> 15:54.898 But so, its just trying to do what you feel is right. 15:54.898 --> 15:58.264 And it doesn't have to be, you know, 15:58.264 --> 16:00.098 have 5000 people attend. 16:00.098 --> 16:02.231 It's just going in the community and doing something. 16:02.231 --> 16:05.598 And I tell people all the time, you can give back without any 16:05.598 --> 16:06.598 money. 16:06.598 --> 16:08.031 It's time and passion. 16:08.031 --> 16:13.164 You can see older people needing somebody to mow their lawn. 16:13.164 --> 16:14.164 Go mow their lawn. 16:14.164 --> 16:15.631 You can see older people that can't get to the store. 16:15.631 --> 16:16.698 You can go shopping for them. 16:16.698 --> 16:18.398 You can help somebody cross the street. 16:18.398 --> 16:20.698 I mean, there's all kinds of ways of giving back. 16:20.698 --> 16:23.931 You can organize cleaning vacant lots that's full of glass and 16:23.931 --> 16:25.031 trash. 16:25.031 --> 16:27.864 You know, all types of things that you can do and it's 16:27.864 --> 16:31.964 important that we help our community stay strong by giving 16:31.964 --> 16:33.431 back. 16:33.431 --> 16:37.431 I know, um, that you could coach anywhere in the league. 16:37.431 --> 16:38.831 You have proven it. 16:38.831 --> 16:41.064 It's not even a question anymore. 16:41.064 --> 16:43.164 How much do you want to be back here next season? 16:43.164 --> 16:46.431 Well, I just told somebody last night, 16:46.431 --> 16:49.231 "You know, when you lay a foundation and you take it from 16:49.231 --> 16:51.698 the beginning stages and you build it up, 16:51.698 --> 16:53.698 you want to see it to the fruition." 16:53.698 --> 16:56.431 The fruition is winning a championship. 16:56.431 --> 16:57.531 Can we do it this year? 16:57.531 --> 16:58.531 I don't know. 16:58.531 --> 16:59.898 But we're shooting for it. 16:59.898 --> 17:02.631 And will we be back there next year? 17:02.631 --> 17:03.631 Possibly. 17:03.631 --> 17:07.331 And why would I want to leave and go and start on the bottom 17:07.331 --> 17:09.064 because that's usually what happens. 17:09.064 --> 17:12.031 And start over again when I don't have to. 17:12.031 --> 17:14.698 I mean, if it came to that, it came to that. 17:14.698 --> 17:16.164 But that's not my goal. 17:16.164 --> 17:17.164 That's not my intent. 17:17.164 --> 17:21.564 My intent and thought process is being here in Memphis and with 17:21.564 --> 17:24.998 the group that we have and building on what we started and 17:24.998 --> 17:27.731 ultimately, you know, dancing on Beale Street. 17:27.731 --> 17:28.731 Absolutely. 17:28.731 --> 17:30.364 Alright, Lionel, we're going to end the interview with 'Five for 17:30.364 --> 17:31.364 the Road'. 17:31.364 --> 17:32.464 Quick questions, quick answers. 17:32.464 --> 17:34.064 First thing that comes to mind. 17:34.064 --> 17:35.564 Your favorite, and you can't say the Grizzlies. 17:35.564 --> 17:37.798 Your favorite professional franchise, 17:37.798 --> 17:39.131 any sport. 17:39.131 --> 17:40.931 New England Patriots. 17:40.931 --> 17:41.931 Wow, okay! 17:41.931 --> 17:43.631 Thought you'd go basketball somewhere, 17:43.631 --> 17:45.131 maybe Portland. 17:45.131 --> 17:47.531 Maybe Philadelphia where I remember you playing. 17:47.531 --> 17:52.498 How about your favorite professional athlete? 17:52.498 --> 17:53.498 Bill Russel. 17:53.498 --> 17:57.931 Bill Russel who dissed me for an autograph in 1969 but I won't 17:57.931 --> 17:59.331 hold that against him. 17:59.331 --> 18:04.198 Well, I have his autograph on a pair of sneakers that he wore. 18:04.198 --> 18:05.198 Gosh! 18:05.198 --> 18:06.764 Favorite music, musician, genre of music? 18:06.764 --> 18:07.864 I like jazz. 18:07.864 --> 18:09.864 I like rhythm and blues. 18:09.864 --> 18:11.531 Do I have a favorite musician? 18:11.531 --> 18:12.798 I mean, I like a lot of people. 18:12.798 --> 18:16.898 But I'll say, you know, Earth Wind and Fire off the top of my 18:16.898 --> 18:17.898 head. 18:17.898 --> 18:18.898 Very good! 18:18.898 --> 18:20.431 I like all types of artists. 18:20.431 --> 18:21.798 Favorite movie of all time? 18:21.798 --> 18:23.398 Hmm, there's been a ton of them. 18:23.398 --> 18:24.398 I just saw, um.. 18:24.398 --> 18:29.131 Gosh, what was the movie that I just saw? 18:29.131 --> 18:31.931 Have you seen 42? 18:31.931 --> 18:33.031 I saw Argo. 18:33.031 --> 18:35.931 Oh, Django! 18:35.931 --> 18:37.531 Oh, I haven't seen that yet. 18:37.531 --> 18:39.864 The most favorite movie for me is always the next one but I had 18:39.864 --> 18:43.964 to go back to Breakfast at Tiffany's and those types of 18:43.964 --> 18:44.964 movies. 18:44.964 --> 18:46.631 I love old movies, black and white that are turning in to 18:46.631 --> 18:47.631 color. 18:47.631 --> 18:48.631 But you got to see 42 though. 18:48.631 --> 18:51.064 It is fantastic story of Jackie Robinson, 18:51.064 --> 18:52.064 of course. 18:52.064 --> 18:53.664 And your favorite TV show of all time? 18:53.664 --> 18:56.664 I don't really watch TV and even when I was younger, 18:56.664 --> 19:00.931 I had to go back maybe shows like Leave it to Beaver and.. 19:00.931 --> 19:02.698 You're old school! 19:02.698 --> 19:05.798 I mean, you know, I don't watch much TV. 19:05.798 --> 19:09.664 I hate getting in to TV and you can't watch it because we play 19:09.664 --> 19:11.364 different nights of the week so.. 19:11.364 --> 19:13.631 TiVo! 19:13.631 --> 19:15.431 I don't do that too often either. 19:15.431 --> 19:16.631 Hey Lionel, thank you so much. 19:16.631 --> 19:17.631 Really appreciate it. 19:17.631 --> 19:19.198 Good to see you. 19:19.198 --> 19:19.231 Alright. 19:19.231 --> 19:45.298 ♪♪♪ 19:45.298 --> 19:47.431 The Memphis Tigers baseball team is getting ready for the stretch 19:47.431 --> 19:48.631 run of the season. 19:48.631 --> 19:51.098 They have put together a very impressive year to date but 19:51.098 --> 19:53.364 their fate will be determined over the course of the next 19:53.364 --> 19:54.364 month. 19:54.364 --> 19:56.764 Last year the Tigers made an impressive run in the Conference 19:56.764 --> 20:00.231 tournament, falling in the championship game to UAB. 20:00.231 --> 20:02.464 This time around they're hopeful they can take it one step 20:02.464 --> 20:05.631 further, and if not, still have won enough games to receive an 20:05.631 --> 20:08.431 at large bid into the NCAA tournament. 20:08.431 --> 20:10.798 The key to the Tiger's success thus far has been the 20:10.798 --> 20:13.131 consistency of their starting pitching. 20:13.131 --> 20:16.331 St. Benedict product Sam Moll is the Tiger's number one hurler, 20:16.331 --> 20:19.698 and not surprisingly, is pitching to rave reviews. 20:19.698 --> 20:22.798 But it's fellow area pitching product Eric Schoenrock who has 20:22.798 --> 20:24.864 been the team's most pleasant surprise. 20:24.864 --> 20:27.131 The former Collierville High School pitcher was a middle 20:27.131 --> 20:30.198 reliever last season and has dealt with some back issues, 20:30.198 --> 20:32.631 but Schoenrock, who just so happens to be the head coach's 20:32.631 --> 20:36.698 son, is 100 percent healthy and has put together a sensational 20:36.698 --> 20:37.698 season. 20:37.698 --> 20:41.831 He's five and three with an era of 2.87 and has given up only 48 20:41.831 --> 20:45.631 hits and 22 earned runs in 69 innings pitched. 20:45.631 --> 20:48.431 Schoenrock will be a key for the tigers the rest of the way. 20:48.431 --> 20:52.798 And I recently had a chance to chat with the sophomore lefty. 20:52.798 --> 20:54.831 Eric, the obvious question, what's it like playing for your 20:54.831 --> 20:55.831 dad? 20:55.831 --> 20:56.831 It's awesome. 20:56.831 --> 20:59.464 I mean, coming in to college, I didn't really know what to 20:59.464 --> 21:00.531 expect. 21:00.531 --> 21:01.531 Just being around him everyday. 21:01.531 --> 21:02.631 but it's been awesome so far. 21:02.631 --> 21:06.631 And he treats me like everybody else so it's been awesome. 21:06.631 --> 21:09.664 You have had an outstanding season to date. 21:09.664 --> 21:12.431 Last year, you had, you we're coming off of a back injury. 21:12.431 --> 21:14.031 So you didn't pitch as much. 21:14.031 --> 21:15.631 But then you went to the Cape Cod league. 21:15.631 --> 21:16.631 Right. 21:16.631 --> 21:19.731 And that was very influential in getting you ready for this 21:19.731 --> 21:20.731 season. 21:20.731 --> 21:23.164 Talk about what that meant to you pitching up at Cape Cod. 21:23.164 --> 21:25.731 I didn't pitch as much as I wanted to. 21:25.731 --> 21:27.464 Last year, obviously the back injury. 21:27.464 --> 21:30.831 So going up to the Cape, I was around great players every day. 21:30.831 --> 21:33.998 And I just want to work hard so I get ready to, 21:33.998 --> 21:36.598 you know, help our team this year which I did this past 21:36.598 --> 21:37.598 summer. 21:37.598 --> 21:40.031 But just being around those great guys every day this summer 21:40.031 --> 21:42.464 and seeing what they do to get themselves ready to pitch 21:42.464 --> 21:43.764 everyday, it was good. 21:43.764 --> 21:44.964 What are your strengths? 21:44.964 --> 21:47.831 Um, I say this year it's been a big strike thrower. 21:47.831 --> 21:49.864 I can get a strike-out when I need it. 21:49.864 --> 21:52.864 But just pitching deep in games and saving our bull pen so far. 21:52.864 --> 21:55.964 Three complete games which is kind of rare for Memphis Tigers 21:55.964 --> 21:56.964 baseball. 21:56.964 --> 21:58.564 We see a lot of times going in to the pen but you've been able 21:58.564 --> 21:59.731 to go the distance three times. 21:59.731 --> 22:02.464 Right, um, I think what's really helped that is I've devloped a 22:02.464 --> 22:03.464 change up. 22:03.464 --> 22:04.931 And it's helped me, you know, get more ground balls and keep 22:04.931 --> 22:05.931 my pitch count down. 22:05.931 --> 22:08.898 It allowed me to pitch deeper in games. 22:08.898 --> 22:11.531 But just overall, just throwing strikes and just hitters 22:11.531 --> 22:12.531 basically. 22:12.531 --> 22:15.731 This is one of the better staffs we have seen in a long time here 22:15.731 --> 22:16.831 in Memphis. 22:16.831 --> 22:20.064 Talk about this starting staff for oyu guys and kind of leaning 22:20.064 --> 22:22.364 on also the number one guy in the rotation, 22:22.364 --> 22:23.364 Sam Moll. 22:23.364 --> 22:24.831 Right, Sam Moll, I watch him pitch every Friday. 22:24.831 --> 22:27.631 I keep a chart so I kind of get an advantage to see how he 22:27.631 --> 22:28.898 attacks the hitters on Friday. 22:28.898 --> 22:30.764 And I can kind of do the same thing on Saturday. 22:30.764 --> 22:34.498 And I know Sunday we're going to get a good start on Alex Gunn. 22:34.498 --> 22:36.031 And then our starter Micheal Wills. 22:36.031 --> 22:37.298 He's beat Ole Miss twice. 22:37.298 --> 22:38.298 And I don't know. 22:38.298 --> 22:41.364 If it gets to our bull pen, I'm pretty confident with him, 22:41.364 --> 22:42.364 too. 22:42.364 --> 22:43.364 We've got a really deep staff. 22:43.364 --> 22:44.664 So it's been good so far. 22:44.664 --> 22:46.431 You've played your prep ball at Collierville. 22:46.431 --> 22:48.964 Did you have Hopkins, Hoppy the former Memphis Tigers head 22:48.964 --> 22:49.964 coach. 22:49.964 --> 22:50.964 What was that like? 22:50.964 --> 22:53.298 And I know, again, you had a back issue as a junior. 22:53.298 --> 22:56.598 So you came back strong from that in your senior year to get 22:56.598 --> 22:57.598 ready for colllege. 22:57.598 --> 23:00.398 Yeah, Coach Hop helped me a lot develop over my four years 23:00.398 --> 23:01.398 there. 23:01.398 --> 23:02.698 I missed my junior year like you said. 23:02.698 --> 23:04.931 But you know, I just worked real hard and tried to come back for 23:04.931 --> 23:07.098 a strong senior year and had a pretty good year. 23:07.098 --> 23:08.098 So it was good. 23:08.098 --> 23:09.831 Do you think the back issues are behind you? 23:09.831 --> 23:10.831 Right, I think they are. 23:10.831 --> 23:13.931 In the past, I've just kind of hoped they woldn't come back. 23:13.931 --> 23:16.098 But now I do, you know, physical therapy every two or three days 23:16.098 --> 23:18.898 just to make sure my back stays strong and ready to go. 23:18.898 --> 23:20.731 As you're making your college decision, 23:20.731 --> 23:21.931 obviosuly here's Memphis. 23:21.931 --> 23:25.764 And here's your dad as the coach but there were other 23:25.764 --> 23:26.764 opportunities. 23:26.764 --> 23:27.764 Did you discuss with him? 23:27.764 --> 23:28.764 How did it go? 23:28.764 --> 23:32.364 He's obviously recruiting you as a coach but you're looking at 23:32.364 --> 23:35.264 Middle Tennessee and Vanderbilt and other opportunities. 23:35.264 --> 23:36.598 Talk about that whole procedure. 23:36.598 --> 23:39.264 Right, he kind of left it all up to the assistant coaches. 23:39.264 --> 23:42.864 He took his hand out of it and told me the only rule he had for 23:42.864 --> 23:46.064 me was I couldn't go anywhere else in Conference USA. 23:46.064 --> 23:48.098 But I'm glad I made the decision to come here because once I took 23:48.098 --> 23:50.731 a visit here, I loved it and loved all the people. 23:50.731 --> 23:52.331 So I'm happy with my decision. 23:52.331 --> 23:53.664 What about this beautiful field you play on? 23:53.664 --> 23:54.664 It's unbelievable. 23:54.664 --> 23:55.831 I mean, I've seen over.. 23:55.831 --> 23:56.831 what? 23:56.831 --> 23:59.564 Nine years now since my families been here the change this place 23:59.564 --> 24:00.631 has been through. 24:00.631 --> 24:01.964 And I mean, it's awesome to see where it is now. 24:01.964 --> 24:03.198 Alright, you're a left hander. 24:03.198 --> 24:04.198 So are you quirky? 24:04.198 --> 24:05.198 Are you weird? 24:05.198 --> 24:06.198 I'm a little different. 24:06.198 --> 24:08.631 Not too weird like some of the other lefties out there. 24:08.631 --> 24:10.331 But I guess I'm a little different. 24:10.331 --> 24:11.331 Do you have superstitions? 24:11.331 --> 24:12.331 Uh, not really. 24:12.331 --> 24:14.031 I like to chew gum when I pitch. 24:14.031 --> 24:15.264 I guess that's something superstituous. 24:15.264 --> 24:16.764 But I don't have too many. 24:16.764 --> 24:20.198 Just try to stick to a routine and that's kind of what I base 24:20.198 --> 24:21.198 myself off of. 24:21.198 --> 24:22.664 So nothing about jumping over the chalk? 24:22.664 --> 24:24.398 It's alright to step on the line. 24:24.398 --> 24:26.131 Nah, I try not to do that. 24:26.131 --> 24:27.864 But I'm not real superstituous about it. 24:27.864 --> 24:29.598 I think chewing gums probably the thing. 24:29.598 --> 24:31.564 I have to chew gum when I pitch. 24:31.564 --> 24:34.764 If you continue to pitch the way you are and hopefully you will, 24:34.764 --> 24:37.731 after this season there may be a decsion to be made because more 24:37.731 --> 24:40.864 than likely, you're going to be a pretty decently high drafted 24:40.864 --> 24:41.864 player. 24:41.864 --> 24:46.664 What will that be like talking with your pop about possibly 24:46.664 --> 24:49.431 going pro or staying for a senior season? 24:49.431 --> 24:52.098 Right, he supports my decision 100 percent. 24:52.098 --> 24:54.531 He knows that my whole life I've wanted to play major league 24:54.531 --> 24:57.798 baseball But if that opportunity was to come around, 24:57.798 --> 24:59.364 he'd be behind me 100 percent. 24:59.364 --> 25:01.498 How far do you think this team can go this year? 25:01.498 --> 25:03.764 With our pitching and defense, and I mean, 25:03.764 --> 25:04.798 the way we're playing offense this year, 25:04.798 --> 25:05.798 we can go a long way. 25:05.798 --> 25:07.398 We just got to, you know, take it one game at a time like we 25:07.398 --> 25:10.398 have been and you know, keep doing things we've been doing. 25:10.398 --> 25:13.798 You've had great competition in Conference USA and it continues 25:13.798 --> 25:14.798 this year. 25:14.798 --> 25:16.731 Next year though, it's a move to the American Athletic 25:16.731 --> 25:17.731 Conference. 25:17.731 --> 25:19.531 Some of the teams will be the same but there will be some new 25:19.531 --> 25:21.998 teams as well. 25:21.998 --> 25:23.531 So new challenges. 25:23.531 --> 25:25.398 Right, it will be interesting. 25:25.398 --> 25:26.531 A lot more travel. 25:26.531 --> 25:29.731 That might be a little tougher on us but looking forward for if 25:29.731 --> 25:32.531 I'm back next year to, you know, see the different cities we're 25:32.531 --> 25:35.098 going to be going to and the different teams we'll be 25:35.098 --> 25:36.098 playing. 25:36.098 --> 25:37.098 Eric, thank you so much. 25:37.098 --> 25:38.831 Continue success and we look forward to watching you pitch. 25:38.831 --> 25:39.831 Thank you very much. 25:39.831 --> 25:42.131 One last thing, congrats to Grizzlies center Marc Gasol who 25:42.131 --> 25:44.464 just yesterday was named the NBA's Defensive player of the 25:44.464 --> 25:45.464 year. 25:45.464 --> 25:46.798 And that will do it for this week's program. 25:46.798 --> 25:49.831 Remember you can see any of our previous shows by heading to our 25:49.831 --> 25:52.264 website, WKNO-dot-org and clicking on KNO Tonite. 25:52.264 --> 25:54.264 Have a great week, and we'll see you next time. 25:55.064 --> 25:59.064 ♪♪♪