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>>> THE GOVERNOR TAKES SOME HEAT

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FOR JOINING DONALD TRUMP ON THE

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CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

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>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS

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ROUNDTABLE WITH MICHAEL ARON" IS

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PROVIDED BY NJM, AUTO INSURANCE

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AND MORE, FOR NEW JERSEY

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ASSOCIATION MEMBERS, THEIR

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EMPLOYEES, AND ALL GARDEN STATE

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PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS.

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PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED BY

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"NEW JERSEY BUSINESS" MAGAZINE,

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THE MAGAZINE THAT THE NEW JERSEY

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LEADERS IN ALL 21 COUNTIES OF

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THE GARDEN STATE SINCE 1954.

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♪♪♪

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>>> CHRIS CHRISTIE FACES A FRESH

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CALL TO RESIGN AND SAYS NO WAY.

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THE LEGISLATURE MOVES FORWARD ON

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NORTH JERSEY CASINOS.

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A STATE TAKEOVER OF ATLANTIC

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CITY FACES A ROADBLOCK IN THE

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ASSEMBLY, AND THE STATE SUPREME

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COURT ADDRESSES COST OF LIVING

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INCREASES IN THE PENSION SYSTEM.

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WELCOME TO "REPORTERS ROUND

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TABLE," I'M MICHAEL ARON.

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WITH US, ALFRED DOG BIN OF "THE

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BERGEN RECORD," DAVID CRUZ OF

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NJ-TV NEWS.

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AND BRENT JOHNSON OF NJ ADVANCED

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MEDIA.

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GOVERNOR CHRISTIE TOOK

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CONSIDERABLE HEAT FOR

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CAMPAIGNING WITH DONALD TRUMP

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MONDAY AND SKIPPING A STATE

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TROOPER'S FUNERAL.

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THE "NEW YORK DAILY NEWS" RAN

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NASTY FRONT PAGE HEADLINES ON

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TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

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CHRISTIE EXPLAINED THAT HE AND

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THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ALWAYS

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SPLIT THESE DUTIES DEPENDING ON

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THEIR SCHEDULES.

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CHRISTIE SAID HE WAS TO ATTEND A

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GROUNDBREAKING IN EXCESS COUNTY,

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YOU TO SHE WOULD HANDLE THE

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FUNERAL.

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HE ULTIMATELY CANCELLED TO JOIN

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WAS PART OF NORMAL PROTOCOL.

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>> OVER THE LAST 6.5 YEARS, THE

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LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND I HAVE

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DETERMINED OURSELVES WHO'S GOING

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TO GO TO ANY OF THESE TRAGIC

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EVENTS THAT OCCUR.

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LAST WEEK WELL BEFORE I EVEN WAS

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INVITED TO COME ON MONDAY AND

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CAMPAIGN WITH DONALD TRUMP, THE

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LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND I HAD

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DECIDED THAT SHE WAS GOING TO

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ATTEND THE FUNERAL ON MONDAY.

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EVEN IF DECIDED TO REMAIN IN THE

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STATE, I WOULD NOT HAVE ATTENDED

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THE FUNERAL, THE LIEUTENANT

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GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE.

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WE'VE SPLIT THOSE UP OVER THE

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COURSE OF TIME DEPENDING ON OUR

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SCHEDULES AND CIRCUMSTANCES

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>> BRENT, THAT WAS A

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SATISFACTORY ANSWER AS TO WHY HE

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WASN'T THERE?

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>> CLEARLY NOT FOR "THE DAILY

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YOU KNOW, IT MAKES LOGISTICAL

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SENSE, BUT I THINK SOME CRITICS

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ARE LOOK AT THIS AS HE'S BEING

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CAVALIER.

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MORE CAVALIER THAN HE USUALLY

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IS.

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MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN

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CONDOLENCES AND THEN SAID I

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WASN'T GOING TO BE THERE.

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>> HE SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER

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EXPRESSING STATE'S SYMPATHY AND

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ORDERED THIS -- FLAGS LOWERED TO

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HALF STAFF.

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THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF

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HIS RESPONSE.

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IT'S JUST -- THINGS AREN'T GOING

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AS WELL FOR HIM NOW AS THEY WERE

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FOR THREE YEARS AGO.

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IT'S SHOWING IN ALL DIFFERENT

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KINDS OF WAYS.

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EVEN AFTER HE'S DONE RUNNING FOR

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PRESIDENT.

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THIS SEEMS TO BE THE NORM FOR

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CHRIS CHRISTIE TO TAKE FIRE LIKE

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THIS.

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>> ALFRED?

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>> I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT ON A

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COUPLE OF LEVELS.

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ONE, HE DIDN'T NICE BECAUSE OF

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AN EQUALLY SIGNIFICANT EVENT.

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YOU KNOW, IF --

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>> THE ESSEX COUNTY EVENT HE WAS

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SCHEDULED TO GO TO AND CANCELED

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WAS A GROUNDBREAKING FOR SOME,

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HONORED TO THE LATE CONGRESSMAN

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DONALD PAYNE.

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GO AHEAD.

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>> IF THE EVENT THAT HE MISSES

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THE FUNERAL FOR IS SOMETHING

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THAT YOU VIEW, I DON'T KNOW,

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PICK AN ABSTRACT, LIKE HIS SON

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WAS MAKING HIS CONFIRMATION,

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OKAY, THAT'S A ONE-TIME EVENT.

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THAT MAKES SENSE.

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I GUESS TWO THINGS BUG ME.

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ONE, HE BELONGED TO THE

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GROUNDBREAKING MONDAY.

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IT'S WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY TAKE

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DIRT OUT OF A GRAVESITE AND

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LOWER A BODY.

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HE WANTED TO BE AT

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GROUNDBREAKING MONDAY.

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HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE

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FUNERAL.

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SECOND, AT THE SAME TIME HE'S

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DECIDING THIS TROOPER'S FUNERAL

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IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THIS

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INFOMERCIAL-LOOKING EVENT WITH

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DONALD TRUMP, THERE'S A LOT OF

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CONTROVERSY ABOUT HIS USE OF THE

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TROOPERS FOR ALL HIS TRAVEL.

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HE HAS NO CONTROL, HE CAN SAY.

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THAT THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY

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ARE PAYING FOR THIS LARGE

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CONTINGENT OF TROOPERS.

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THE TROOPERS HAVE NO SAY ABOUT

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TRAVELING WITH HIM.

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AT THE SAME TIME HE DECIDES I

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DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE FUNERAL,

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ALL THE TROOPERS THAT HAVE TO

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TRAVEL WITH HIM CAN'T GO EITHER.

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I THINK IT'S LIKE A DOUBLE

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DISRESPECT.

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WHEN THERE'S MORE SCRUTINY NOW

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THAN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN

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BEFORE TRAVELING FOR PRESIDENT,

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ALL RIGHT, BUT IT'S WRONG.

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>> SATISFACTORY ANSWER FROM THE

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GOVERNOR?

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>> I DON'T KNOW.

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I CAN'T JUDGE IF IT WAS

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SATISFACTORY OR NOT.

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I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT

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OF MICROANALYSIS BORDERING ON

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NIT-PICKERY WHEN IT COMES TO THE

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GOVERNOR AND WHEN HE DECIDES TO

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STAY IN THE STATE OR IF TO

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CAMPAIGN OR GO TO A FUNERAL.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S GONE TO

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EVERY STATE TROOPER FUNERAL --

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>> APPARENTLY HE MISSED THE LAST

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THREE POLICE OFFICER FUNERALS.

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FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

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>> THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF

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CHRISTIE DEFENDERS LEFT OUT

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THERE.

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YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO HEAR THE

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OTHER SIDE.

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I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT

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OF GLEE THAT I THINK WE IN THE

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PRESS ARE TAKING, POINTING OUT

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EVERY TIME CHRISTIE DOES

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SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE, MOSTLY

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OPPONENTS, ARE GOING TO

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CRITICIZE HIM FOR.

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>> I HAVE THE SAME STORY THAT

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SAID THE SECURITY DETAIL DURING

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THE PAST YEAR WHILE CAMPAIGNING

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COST THE TAXPAYERS $600,000

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SOMETHING DOLLARS.

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I THOUGHT, OKAY, THAT'S NOT SO

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MUCH.

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$600,000.

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I MEAN, IT IS IF IT'S YOURS.

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$600,000 --

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>> I SUPPOSE.

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>> I THINK THE NUMBER ON THE

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AMERICAN EXPRESS CARDS THAT WE

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DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHARGES ARE,

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SOMETHING LIKE $500,000.

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THAT'S FOR THE FOOD AND LODGING

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AND ALL OF THAT.

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THIS IS TO FUND, FIRST TO FUND

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HIS CAMPAIGN TO BE PRESIDENT OF

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THE UNITED STATES.

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I DON'T SEE WHY ANY TAXPAYER IN

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NEW JERSEY SHOULD BE FUNDING HIS

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RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

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AND NOW INDIRECTLY FUNDING

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DONALD TRUMP'S RUN FOR PRESIDENT

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OF THE UNITED STATES.

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THEY'RE NOT LEGITIMATE EXPENSES.

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THEY'RE JUST NOT.

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IT'S ABUSING THE SYSTEM.

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>> IN THE WAKE OF THE TROOPER

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FUNERAL, STEVE FULOP PUT UP A

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WEBSITE -- WEEK BEFORE PHIL

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LET'S LOOK AT THAT WEBSITE.

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CHRISTIE, DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT --

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DOYOURJOBORQUIT.COM.

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A WEEK AGO.

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FOLLOWED BY STEVE FULOP, IN

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LIGHT OF SKIPPING THE TROOPER

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FUNERAL PUT UP THE SITE CALLED

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STEPDOWNCHRIS.COM.

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THERE ARE THESE FRESH CALLS FOR

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HIM TO RESIGN.

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WE WENT AND DID A STORY THIS

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WEEK IN WHICH WE SPOKE TO TOM

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MORAN, THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR

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OF "THE STAR LEDGER," ONE OF THE

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FIRST IN THE STATE TO CALL ON

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CHRISTIE TO RESIGN AND ASKED IF

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HE STILL THINKS HE SHOULD

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RESIGN.

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HERE'S MORAN FOLLOWED BY CHRIS

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CHRISTIE.

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>> HE'S MADE IT CLEAR THAT

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GOVERNING NEW JERSEY IS A

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DISTANT SECOND PRIORITY FOR HIM.

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THE ENDORSEMENT OF TRUMP WAS THE

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THING THAT PUT IT OVER THE EDGE.

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IT MAKES HIM POLITICALLY FAR

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MORE TOXIC IN NEW JERSEY.

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MUCH LESS LIKELY THAT DEMOCRATS

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WILL WANT TO STAND AT A PODIUM

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WITH HIM, SHAKE HANDS, AND CUT A

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DEAL ON PENSIONS.

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ALSO, I THINK, SHOWS THAT HIS

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PRIORITY IS HIS CAREER.

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>> I COULD CARE LESS.

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I ANSWERED THIS QUESTION

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ALREADY.

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I'M NOT RESIGNING FOR ANY OF THE

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REASONS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT ME

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TO RESIGN.

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I'M NOT RESIGNING, I'M SERVING

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MY NEXT 21 MONTHS.

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THE STATE IS BEING ENORMOUSLY

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SUCCESSFUL UNDER OUR LEADERSHIP.

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AND THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT

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THAT I ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP.

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THAT'S OKAY.

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THEN THEY ENDORSE SOMEBODY ELSE.

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>> ALFRED, YOU'RE THE EDITORIAL

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PAGE EDITOR OF "THE BERGEN

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RECORD."

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THEY SAID THREE WEEKS AGO,

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CHRISTIE SHOULD RESIGN.

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"THE STAR LEDGER" D. HAVE YOU

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TAKEN A POSITION AT "THE

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RECORD"?

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>> NO, WE HAVE NOT.

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WE'VE REPEATEDLY SAID "DO YOUR

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JOB."

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WE'RE NOT QUITE AT THAT PLACE

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WHERE YOU SHOULD RESIGN.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT GETS PLUS.

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I MEAN -- I DON'T KNOW IF I

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WOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN

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TEMGS.

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WHAT WOULD GET US THERE.

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I CAN TELL YOU MY COLUMN TODAY

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IS ABOUT -- SPRINGBOARDS OFF THE

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TWO WEBSITES.

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I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING, ONE,

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THEY'RE BOTH POLITICALLY

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MOTIVATED.

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BOTH MEN WANT -- WE PRESUME WANT

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TO BE GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY.

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>> AND DEMOCRAT --

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>> AND STEVE FULOP.

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I THINK THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T

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CARE.

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MY COLUMN IS BASED ON THAT AT

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THIS POINT HE SHOULD LAUNCH A

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WEBSITE TO COUNTER THAT THAT

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SAYS, IDONTCAREABOUTYOU.COM OR

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DOT-ORG.

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THAT'S THE FACTS, AND HE'S NOT

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GOING TO RESIGN.

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I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S

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GOING TO FORCE HIM TO RESIGN.

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HE MAY RESIGN IF SOMEBODY OFFERS

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HIM HYPOTHETICALLY A JOB IN A

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PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION OR

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IN SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S

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ATTRACTIVE TO HIM.

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BUT I DON'T SEE HIM BEING SHAMED

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INTO RESIGNING.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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AT THAT PRESS CONFERENCE ON

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TUESDAY, ONE PRESS EVENT SO FAR

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THIS WEEK IN THE STATE.

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HE LIT INTO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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COUNTING HOW MANY DAYS HE'S BEEN

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IN STATE AND OUT OF STATE.

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HE SAID THAT WHEN HE GOES AROUND

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THE STATE, NOBODY ASKS HIM ABOUT

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THAT EXCEPT REPORTER.

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AND THAT WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO

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CARE.

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WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF THAT?

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>> WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT LIVE

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IN NEW JERSEY I GUESS.

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YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T -- SOMEONE

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IN PENNSYLVANIA MIGHT NOT CARE

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THAT IT ISN'T THE FIRST JOB.

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YOU KNOW, IT -- IT'S JUST BEEN A

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CONTINUOUS STREAM OF SITUATIONS

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THAT HE CAN WIGGLE OUT OF.

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HE FINDS THESE NEW WAYS TO SAY

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-- TO STAVE OFF THE CRITICISM

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LIKE WHEN HE SAID I WAS AT 30%

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THAT THIS SHOWS THE PEOPLE WANT

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ME TO COME BACK TO NEW JERSEY.

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TRUMP DOES THAT, TOO.

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THAT'S WHAT POLITICIANS DO.

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YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A LOT OF

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CRITICISM ON HIM RIGHT NOW, BUT

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HE'S STILL SURVIVING.

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THAT'S THE THING.

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HE'S STILL GOVERNOR.

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NOT GOING TO RESIGN.

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IF HE'S NOT VICE PRESIDENT --

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>> I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU

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WERE THERE, I WAS THERE.

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I THOUGHT HE DID A DECENT JOB OF

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DEFUSING THIS STUFF.

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>> HE'S VERY GOOD AT THAT.

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HE'S GREAT AT THAT.

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>> FINALLY ON THIS TRUMP STORY,

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IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEW JERSEY

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PRIMARY MIGHT COUNT FOR

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SOMETHING THIS YEAR.

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>> WHO'D OF THOUGHT THAT WOULD

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BE SO?

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>> I AM STILL AMAZED AT THE

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DONALD TRUMP PHENOMENON.

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I THINK IT'S FASCINATING TO SEE

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HOW THE REPUBLICANS HAVE

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SUDDENLY WOKEN UP AND REALIZED

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THAT DONALD TRUMP IS AT THIS

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POINT LIKELY TO BE THEIR

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NOMINEE, AND THE TERROR THAT'S

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RACING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PARTY.

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I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.

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I LIKE THAT NEW JERSEY WILL

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FINALLY HAVE A --

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>> WE MAY GET TO COVER A TRUMP

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RALLY.

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>> WE'RE GOING TO GO, AGAIN, THE

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SAME DAY AS CALIFORNIA, HE MIGHT

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NEED OUR DELEGATES, WINNER TAKE

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ALL, TO HELP HIM GET PAST OR

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CLOSE TO THE 1,237 MARK.

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>> HE COULD REOPEN TRUMP PLAZA

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AND JUST HAVE A RALLY RIGHT

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THERE.

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>> CARL ICON SAYS HE WON'T JOIN

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A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

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>> DOESN'T HE INTEND TO BE

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BURIED IN NEW JERSEY?

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I THOUGHT --

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>> TRUMP?

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>> TRUMP.

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YEAH.

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>> THE GOLF COURSE --

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>> DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

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>> I THOUGHT HE HAS PLANS TO BE

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BURIED IN THE STATE.

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>> HE'S CHERISH NEW JERSEY.

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>>> LET'S MOVE TO ATLANTIC

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CITY --

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>> AND FERTILIZE IT, AS WELL.

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>> WHAT DID YOU SAY?

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>> AND EFFORT AUTHORIZE, AS

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WELL.

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>> AND FERTILIZE IT, YEAH.

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LET'S MOVE TO ATLANTIC CITY.

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THE NORTH JERSEY CASINO

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AMENDMENT PASSED BOTH HOUSES

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THIS WEEK.

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IN THE SENATE, THE VOTE WAS

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34-6, COMPARABLE MARGIN IN THE

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ASSEMBLY.

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ATLANTIC CITY OFFICIALS ARE

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AGAINST THIS.

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NORTH JERSEY CASINOS WILL HURT

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ATLANTIC CITY AND FORCE ANOTHER

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COUPLE OF CASINOS TO CLOSE.

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BUT MOST OF THE LEG SLATE EURO

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AS -- LEGISLATURE HAS THE VOTE

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SGLIMPT BELIEVE NEW JERSEY IS A

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WORLD-CLASS STATE.

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THE PROPOSAL I HAVE SEEN AT

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LIBERTY NATIONAL GOLF COURSE IS

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WORLD CLASS.

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>> IN THE NORTH, NO LONGER DO

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THOSE BUSES GO TO ATLANTIC CITY.

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THEY GO TO BETHLEHEM IN THE

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WEST, YONKERS IN THE EAST.

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WE NEED TO CAPTURE THAT

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UNIVERSE.

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>> I NEED CONTINUE TO F NORTH

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JERSEY PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY WITH

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A COMMUTE IN THE MORNING AND

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AFTERNOON ON ROADS BUILT IN THE

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1920s FROM A TRANSPORTATION FUND

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THAT HAS NO PHONE REPLACE THE

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BRIDGES THAT ARE OUT OF DATE.

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I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE WILLING

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TO ACCEPT THE AMOUNT OF

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PROSTITUTION, DRUGS, CRIME THAT

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COMES WITH A SIN ENTERTAINMENT

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LIKE CASINOS.

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>> BRENT, ARE YOU SURPRISED AT

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HOW MUCH SUPPORT THERE IS FOR

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THIS IN THE LEGISLATURE?

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>> NO, ANY TIME THEY CAN FIND

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MORE MONEY OR REVENUE TO COME IN

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DOESN'T SURPRISE ME.

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AND THEY DO SEEM TO THINK THERE

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WILL BE THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND

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BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE

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TO COME IN.

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IT'S ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER

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THAT'S KILLING ATLANTIC CITY,

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ONE PUNCH AFTER THE OTHER THAT

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THEY KEEP TAKING.

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IT IS A STRANGE TIME TO COVER

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ATLANTIC CITY.

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THERE'S NO GOOD NEWS COMING OUT

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OF IT.

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JUST KEEPS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE

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OPPOSITE OF A PRIZE FIGHTER.

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>> ALFRED, NORTH JERSEY CASINO

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COULD BE COMING TO A TOWN NEAR

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YOU.

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WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS?

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>> IT COULD BE.

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I'M FASCINATED BY THE MAYOR'S

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COMMENT THAT ATLANTIC CITY WILL

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LOSE THEIR PROSTITUTES.

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I MEAN, I NEVER REALLY HEARD

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THAT AS THE PROBLEM.

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>> HE SAID BERGEN COUNTY AND

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HUDSON WILL GAIN PROSTITUTES --

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>> WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM.

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WE'RE GETTING --

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A NEW REVENUE STREAM.

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YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CASINO IS

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GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT SELL.

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I THINK THE VOTE IS GOING TO BE

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A DIFFICULT SELL STATEWIDE.

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THERE ARE NOT -- I DON'T THINK

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EVEN THERE'S A UNIVERSAL

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CONSENSUS IN NORTH JERSEY THAT

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THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

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IT WILL -- IT PROBABLY WILL HELP

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THE MEADOWLANDS COMPLEX IF ONE

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IS THERE.

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AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE PITCH

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FOR JERSEY CITY.

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THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS

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PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

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WE DON'T KNOW THE TAX RATE FOR

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THE CASINOS.

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WE DON'T --

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>> THE TAX RATE WOULD DETERMINE

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HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE GOES BACK

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TO ATLANTIC CITY TO SPUR

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DEVELOPMENT THERE AND THAT,

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YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY HAVEN'T SET

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THAT YET.

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THEY ALSO HAVEN'T SET WHO WOULD

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RECEIVE THE MONEY IN ATLANTIC

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CITY OR WHO WOULD DOLE IT OUT.

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>> I THINK THAT'S GOING TO

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AFFECT A LOT OF WHO YOU CAN THIS

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TO VOTER.

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NORTH JERSEY PEOPLE, WHEN THEY

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WANT THE CASINO, ARE SKEPTICAL.

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WE'RE SENDING MONEY TO ATLANTIC

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CITY, BUT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO

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DO WITH IT?

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>> WHAT ABOUT TRAFFIC ON ROUTE

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3?

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THAT'S ANOTHER THING THE MAYOR

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WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH AMERICAN

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DREAM COMING TO THE MEADOWLANDS

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AND A CASINO, A BILLION DOLLAR

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WORLD-CLASS CASINO.

519
00:15:58,290 --> 00:16:00,659
>> I DON'T GAMBLE, BUT I DON'T

520
00:16:00,659 --> 00:16:02,962
THINK THERE'S A RUSH HOUR EVERY

521
00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,563
DAY FOR WHEN YOU GAMBLE.

522
00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:05,998
I DON'T THINK THAT BETWEEN THE

523
00:16:05,998 --> 00:16:08,000
HOURS OF 6:30 IN THE MORNING TO,

524
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,435
SAY, 9:00 IN THE MORNING

525
00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:11,136
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO RUN TO

526
00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:12,137
GAMBLE.

527
00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:13,372
IF THEY'RE GOING TO WORK,

528
00:16:13,372 --> 00:16:14,373
THEY'RE GOING WORK.

529
00:16:14,373 --> 00:16:15,374
I THINK YOU SAW A BALANCE

530
00:16:15,374 --> 00:16:16,675
BETWEEN THE JETS AND GIANTS AND

531
00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:18,344
AMERICAN DREAM IN TERMS OF HOW

532
00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:20,512
DO WE MITIGATE THE POLICY

533
00:16:20,512 --> 00:16:22,948
TRAFFIC NIGHTMARES IF THERE'S A

534
00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:25,884
GAME AND THE NEW ENTERTAINMENT

535
00:16:25,884 --> 00:16:27,119
FACILITY IS OPEN.

536
00:16:27,119 --> 00:16:28,520
THERE ISN'T A GAME EVERY DAY.

537
00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,521
THE GAMES AT SPECIFIC TIMES.

538
00:16:29,521 --> 00:16:30,522
PEOPLE WILL GO TO AN

539
00:16:30,522 --> 00:16:31,523
ENTERTAINMENT VENUE OVER THE

540
00:16:31,523 --> 00:16:32,524
COURSE OF THE DAY.

541
00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:36,261
I DON'T SEE THE TRAFFIC

542
00:16:36,261 --> 00:16:39,732
NIGHTMARE BEING CAUSED BY

543
00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:40,733
CASINOS.

544
00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:42,334
>> DAVID, HOW DO PEOPLE IN

545
00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:43,702
JERSEY CITY, A TOWN YOU PAY

546
00:16:43,702 --> 00:16:46,638
CLOSE ATTENTION TO AND LIVE IN,

547
00:16:46,638 --> 00:16:50,042
HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT WELCOMING

548
00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:51,243
-- IN LIBERTY STATE PARK A

549
00:16:51,243 --> 00:16:53,045
95-STORY BUILDING?

550
00:16:53,045 --> 00:16:55,381
>> NEAR LIBERTY STATE PARK.

551
00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:57,149
AND WHAT IS NOW PRETTY MUCH

552
00:16:57,149 --> 00:16:58,283
EMPTY LAND.

553
00:16:58,283 --> 00:16:59,451
WALKING DISTANCE FROM MY HOME.

554
00:16:59,451 --> 00:17:01,053
THAT WILL BE CONVENIENT.

555
00:17:01,053 --> 00:17:02,054
>> BE CAREFUL, MAN.

556
00:17:02,054 --> 00:17:03,956
PROSTITUTES AND TRAFFIC.

557
00:17:03,956 --> 00:17:05,357
>> I THINK THAT THERE'S -- IT'S

558
00:17:05,357 --> 00:17:06,525
A MIXED BAG.

559
00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:09,028
I WILL SAY THAT PEOPLE IN THE

560
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:12,631
PART OF TOWN WHERE THAT'S GOING

561
00:17:12,631 --> 00:17:15,701
TO BE, GREENVILLE, NEED WORK.

562
00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:17,102
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHOUT

563
00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:18,103
WORK.

564
00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:19,371
THE CASINO NOT ONLY IN ITS

565
00:17:19,371 --> 00:17:21,707
CONSTRUCTION BUT ITS OPERATION

566
00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:23,942
AND IF THERE'S A HOTEL ATTACHED,

567
00:17:23,942 --> 00:17:25,544
THEY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

568
00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:26,545
JOBS.

569
00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:27,546
I THINK GENERALLY ACROSS THE

570
00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:29,281
CITY PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY NOT SO

571
00:17:29,281 --> 00:17:30,449
MUCH IN FAVOR.

572
00:17:30,449 --> 00:17:32,418
I THINK WHEN YOU START

573
00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:33,619
DISCUSSING CASINOS, PEOPLE

574
00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:34,787
AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THE

575
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,755
ATLANTIC CITY EXAMPLE OF TEN

576
00:17:36,755 --> 00:17:39,124
CASINOS AND ALL THE EGGS, ALL

577
00:17:39,124 --> 00:17:41,493
THE ECONOMIC EGGS IN ONE BASKET.

578
00:17:41,493 --> 00:17:44,229
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY

579
00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:46,598
THINK OF WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

580
00:17:46,598 --> 00:17:47,766
CASINOS WITH THEM.

581
00:17:47,766 --> 00:17:50,135
THIS WOULD BE ONE CASINO AS

582
00:17:50,135 --> 00:17:52,304
PARTS OF A LARGER SCALE

583
00:17:52,304 --> 00:17:53,439
DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD BE

584
00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:54,440
LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE

585
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,474
ATLANTIC CITY EXAMPLE.

586
00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:58,110
>> TO ALFRED'S POINT, THERE WAS

587
00:17:58,110 --> 00:18:00,279
A POLL ON THIS, I BELIEVE IT WAS

588
00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:06,051
51-44, NEW JERSEY PUBLIC AGAINST

589
00:18:06,051 --> 00:18:08,487
EXPANDING CASINO GAMBLING.

590
00:18:08,487 --> 00:18:10,389
A BIG SELLING JOB WILL HAVE TO

591
00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:13,525
BE DONE IF VOTERS APPROVE IT.

592
00:18:13,525 --> 00:18:15,060
>> THERE'S ECONOMIC BOOST RIGHT

593
00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:16,228
THERE, WIN, WIN, WIN.

594
00:18:16,228 --> 00:18:20,666
>> THE OTHER ATLANTIC CITY

595
00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:26,238
LEGISLATIVE ISSUE IS WHEN THE

596
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:27,806
STATE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER

597
00:18:27,806 --> 00:18:29,775
ATLANTIC CITY, LOCK, STOCK, AND

598
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:32,711
BARREL, THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT

599
00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:36,348
WERE IN THE LEGISLATURE ON

600
00:18:36,348 --> 00:18:39,785
MONDAY WHEN THE SENATE APPROVED

601
00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:43,922
THAT BILL.

602
00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:50,129
THE VOTE THERE WAS -- 27-9.

603
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,864
CHRIS CHRISTIE IS IN FAVOR OF

604
00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:54,933
THIS, VINNY PRIETO, ASSEMBLY

605
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:58,437
SPEAKER, SAYS HE'S AGAINST

606
00:18:58,437 --> 00:18:59,805
ALLOWING THE STATE TO BREAK

607
00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:00,873
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

608
00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:02,741
AGREEMENTS.

609
00:19:02,741 --> 00:19:04,209
THAT MAKES THE PLAN A

610
00:19:04,209 --> 00:19:05,210
NON-STARTER.

611
00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:06,979
THERE ARE TWO BILLS INVOLVED IN

612
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:07,980
THE PLAN.

613
00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,148
THE GOVERNOR SAID ON TUESDAY

614
00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,817
THAT IF ONE WORD IN EITHER OF

615
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,652
THE BILLS IS CHANGED BEFORE HE

616
00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:15,821
GETS TO HIS DESK, HE WON'T SIGN

617
00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:16,822
THEM.

618
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:17,990
HE TOOK A SHOT AT PRIETO.

619
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:19,591
LET'S HEAR THEM.

620
00:19:19,591 --> 00:19:21,660
>> THE SPEAKER IS PLAYING PUBLIC

621
00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:24,429
SECTOR UNION POLITICS.

622
00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:26,832
IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE THAT AND

623
00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,834
ATLANTIC CITY RUNS OUT OF MONEY,

624
00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:30,269
WHAT HAPPENS THEREAFTER WILL BE

625
00:19:30,269 --> 00:19:32,104
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ONE AND

626
00:19:32,104 --> 00:19:34,406
ONLY ONE PERSON, THE SPEAKER OF

627
00:19:34,406 --> 00:19:35,874
THE ASSEMBLY.

628
00:19:35,874 --> 00:19:36,942
>> DAVID, WHAT ARE -- WHAT'S

629
00:19:36,942 --> 00:19:37,943
GOING TO HAPPEN?

630
00:19:37,943 --> 00:19:38,944
WHAT ARE THE PROSSNEKTS.

631
00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:39,945
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.

632
00:19:39,945 --> 00:19:42,247
I WILL TELL YOU IT'S STARTING TO

633
00:19:42,247 --> 00:19:47,085
LOOK TO ME LIKE THE SPEAKER IS

634
00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:49,454
SORT OF A FULOP SURROGATE, AND

635
00:19:49,454 --> 00:19:51,757
YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONING IN A WAY

636
00:19:51,757 --> 00:19:53,258
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE

637
00:19:53,258 --> 00:19:55,561
BENEFICIAL TO STEVE FULOP IN THE

638
00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:57,462
SENSE THAT IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO

639
00:19:57,462 --> 00:19:59,398
THE PLAN THAT THE SENATE

640
00:19:59,398 --> 00:20:00,399
PRESIDENT HAS.

641
00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:03,202
THAT'S THE WAY I KIND OF SEE IT

642
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:04,203
--

643
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,204
>> POLITICALLY.

644
00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:07,206
>> PRIETO WAS APPEARING TO BE DO

645
00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:09,474
OF FULOP'S BIDDING DURING THE

646
00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:10,709
DESIGN OF THE NORTH JERSEY

647
00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:12,878
CASINO BILL.

648
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:14,780
HUDSON WANTED IT ONE WAY, SOUTH

649
00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:16,215
JERSEY WANTED IT ANOTHER, AND

650
00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,217
PRIETO TOOK THE HUDSON LINE.

651
00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:20,252
THAT'S AN INTERESTING

652
00:20:20,252 --> 00:20:22,721
OBSERVATION THAT IF THEY THROW

653
00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:24,389
-- IF FULOP AND PRIETO ARE

654
00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:26,391
THROWING A WRENCH INTO SWEENEY'S

655
00:20:26,391 --> 00:20:28,594
TAKEOVER PLAN, THERE COULD BE A

656
00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:29,728
POLITICAL DIMENSION TO IT.

657
00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:30,729
>> IT WOULDN'T BE THE WEIRDEST

658
00:20:30,729 --> 00:20:31,730
THING THAT HAPPENED, THE

659
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:32,731
WEIRDEST MOTIVATION.

660
00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:34,399
>> OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE

661
00:20:34,399 --> 00:20:35,534
TAKEOVER?

662
00:20:35,534 --> 00:20:36,768
>> THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES

663
00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:37,769
HAPPEN?

664
00:20:37,769 --> 00:20:39,438
SAY IT DOESN'T PASS, IT LOOKS

665
00:20:39,438 --> 00:20:41,306
LIKE NOW IT MIGHT NOT PASS

666
00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:42,374
BEFORE THE CITY RUNS OUT OF

667
00:20:42,374 --> 00:20:43,375
MONEY.

668
00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:45,377
THEY SAY THE CITY CAN RUN OUT OF

669
00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:46,378
MONEY IN A WEEK OR SO.

670
00:20:46,378 --> 00:20:47,379
>> TWO WEEKS.

671
00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:48,380
>> YEAH.

672
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,148
WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THERE SOME

673
00:20:50,148 --> 00:20:51,516
OTHER EMERGENCY ACTION,

674
00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:52,517
BANKRUPTCY?

675
00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:55,220
>> I SPOKE TO PRIETO ON THE

676
00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:57,256
PHONE YESTERDAY, AND I BELIEVE

677
00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:59,324
HE SAID THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF

678
00:20:59,324 --> 00:21:01,526
MECHANISMS BY WHICH THE STATE

679
00:21:01,526 --> 00:21:03,295
CAN INTERVENE IN ATLANTIC CITY

680
00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:06,098
WITHOUT A BLANKET TAKEOVER THAT

681
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,866
KILLS POLICE AND FIRE AND

682
00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:10,302
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEE CONTRACTS,

683
00:21:10,302 --> 00:21:11,870
BUT THAT ASSERTS A LOT OF

684
00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:12,904
FINANCIAL CONTROLS.

685
00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:15,007
AND RATHER THAN THE CITY HAVING

686
00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:17,442
TO DECLARE BANKRUPTCY, THE STATE

687
00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:19,311
COULD COME IN IN THAT FASHION,

688
00:21:19,311 --> 00:21:20,312
NOT --

689
00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:21,313
>> THAT IS ONE THOUGHT.

690
00:21:21,313 --> 00:21:23,315
THEN THERE'S THE MOODY'S REPORT,

691
00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:25,150
THE WALL STREET CREDIT AGENCY

692
00:21:25,150 --> 00:21:26,985
SAID WITHOUT THE TAKEOVER IT

693
00:21:26,985 --> 00:21:27,986
WOULD BE A LOT HARDER.

694
00:21:27,986 --> 00:21:29,454
THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE AND

695
00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,423
ARGUMENTS ON EACH SIDE.

696
00:21:31,423 --> 00:21:32,591
EITHER WAY, YOU'RE NOT FACING A

697
00:21:32,591 --> 00:21:34,359
GOOD SITUATION AS I THINK JIM

698
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,394
WHEYLAND SAID.

699
00:21:35,394 --> 00:21:36,395
THERE'S NOTHING GREAT.

700
00:21:36,395 --> 00:21:37,396
NO ONE'S, OH, YEAH, WE'RE GOING

701
00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,164
TO SAVE ATLANTIC CITY.

702
00:21:39,164 --> 00:21:40,632
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

703
00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:41,633
>> HE'S PART OF THE TAKEOVER.

704
00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:42,634
NO ONE'S HAPPY --

705
00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:43,635
>> HE'S OPPOSED TO THE NORTH

706
00:21:43,635 --> 00:21:44,636
JERSEY CASINO AMENDMENT BUT

707
00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:45,637
SUPPORTED THE TAKEOVER BILL.

708
00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:48,640
>> YES.

709
00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:56,248
>> WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON TAKEOVER?

710
00:21:56,248 --> 00:21:57,949
>> I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

711
00:21:57,949 --> 00:21:59,918
I CAN -- I CAN GET GLIB AND SAY

712
00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:01,787
HE SHOULD CALL DONALD TRUMP,

713
00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:03,655
CLEARLY A GREAT NEGOTIATOR, AND

714
00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:06,258
GET EVERYONE IN A ROOM AND IN

715
00:22:06,258 --> 00:22:08,126
TEN MINUTES RESOLVE THE ISSUE.

716
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:09,961
AND ATLANTIC CITY WOULD BE

717
00:22:09,961 --> 00:22:10,962
SAVED.

718
00:22:10,962 --> 00:22:12,597
I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE

719
00:22:12,597 --> 00:22:13,699
GUBERNATORIAL POLITICS, 2017

720
00:22:13,699 --> 00:22:15,200
GUBERNATORIAL POLITICS AT PLAY.

721
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,436
I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNOR WILL

722
00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:20,405
BE ABLE TO SIT BACK AND SAY, OH,

723
00:22:20,405 --> 00:22:22,007
VINNY PRIETO, LOOK WHAT DO YOU

724
00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,008
TO ATLANTIC CITY.

725
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:25,110
I MEAN, IF EVERYTHING DOES COME

726
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:27,579
CRASHING DOWN IN ATLANTIC CITY,

727
00:22:27,579 --> 00:22:28,914
CHRIS CHRISTIE'S STILL THE

728
00:22:28,914 --> 00:22:29,915
GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY.

729
00:22:29,915 --> 00:22:31,350
HE'S STILL GOING TO GET TAGGED

730
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,452
WITH A LOT OF THE PROBLEM, EVEN

731
00:22:33,452 --> 00:22:35,053
IF HE DIDN'T CREATE IT, IN

732
00:22:35,053 --> 00:22:36,054
FAIRNESS TO HIM.

733
00:22:36,054 --> 00:22:37,889
IT'S STILL SOMETHING HE IS

734
00:22:37,889 --> 00:22:40,258
EXPECTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

735
00:22:40,258 --> 00:22:42,027
BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER ON.

736
00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:45,464
>> THE STATE SUPREME COURT ON

737
00:22:45,464 --> 00:22:48,934
MONDAY I BELIEVE HEARD ORAL

738
00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:51,436
ARGUMENT ON THE COST OF LIVING

739
00:22:51,436 --> 00:22:54,740
INCREASE FREEZE IN THE PENSION

740
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,776
LAW, THE 2011 PENSION LAW,

741
00:22:57,776 --> 00:23:02,080
PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS ARE SUING

742
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,615
TO GET THEIR COST OF LIVING

743
00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:05,117
INCREASES WHICH WERE FROZEN IN

744
00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:06,651
2007.

745
00:23:06,651 --> 00:23:08,120
THE STATE IS DEFENDING THE

746
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,488
GOVERNORS AND LEGISLATURE'S

747
00:23:09,488 --> 00:23:13,058
POSITION AND DEFENDING THE LAW.

748
00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:14,059
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WERE

749
00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:15,327
AT THE ARGUMENT, YOU BUT WHAT

750
00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:18,363
ARE YOU HEARING AS TO WHEN THE

751
00:23:18,363 --> 00:23:19,998
TENOR, THE QUESTIONING FAVORED

752
00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:22,768
THE UNION OR NOT?

753
00:23:22,768 --> 00:23:24,903
ANYBODY?

754
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,371
>> THE PENSION SITUATION OVER

755
00:23:26,371 --> 00:23:28,240
THE YEARS HAD GONE ONE WAY AND

756
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,241
GONE ANOTHER.

757
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,676
THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE TO

758
00:23:31,676 --> 00:23:33,211
MANY PEOPLE IN NEW JERSEY

759
00:23:33,211 --> 00:23:34,212
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF

760
00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:35,213
GOVERNMENT WORKERS IN NEW

761
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:36,748
JERSEY, AND IT STRETCHES ACROSS

762
00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,183
THE ENTIRE STATE.

763
00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:39,518
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUPREME

764
00:23:39,518 --> 00:23:40,552
COURT IS THINKING.

765
00:23:40,552 --> 00:23:43,455
I HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THAT CLOSELY.

766
00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:44,890
>> I SPOKE WITH TWO REPORTERS

767
00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:46,158
WHO WERE IN THE COURTROOM WHO

768
00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:51,730
SAID IT SOUNDED LIKE -- I THINK

769
00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:55,967
FROM THE LEVECCHIA'S QUESTIONING

770
00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,769
THAT THE COURT IS LEANING

771
00:23:57,769 --> 00:24:00,705
AGAINST THE UNIONS, AND --

772
00:24:00,705 --> 00:24:01,706
>> AGAINST RESTORING --

773
00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:03,708
>> AGAINST RESTORING THE COST OF

774
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:04,709
LIVING INCREASES.

775
00:24:04,709 --> 00:24:05,811
>> IT'S HINGING ON A SENTENCE.

776
00:24:05,811 --> 00:24:06,812
I DON'T REMEMBER THE WORDING,

777
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BUT --

778
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>> THEY ALL HINGE ON A SENTENCE.

779
00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:11,716
>> I KNOW.

780
00:24:11,716 --> 00:24:14,519
I GET THE WHOLE COLA WAR THING,

781
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,721
IT'S ATTACHED TO WHEN THE

782
00:24:16,721 --> 00:24:18,223
LEGISLATURE INTENDED TO KEEP

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COLAS OUT OF ANY POSSIBLE

784
00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:24,329
INCREASE OR PUT IT IN THERE.

785
00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:25,831
AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE

786
00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:26,832
NUANCES.

787
00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:27,833
I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING

788
00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:29,835
THAT IT WILL COME OUT THAT LEVEC

789
00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:31,803
LEVECCHIO IS THE DECIDING VOTE

790
00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:33,772
OF WHAT THE GOVERNOR WANTS, ALL

791
00:24:33,772 --> 00:24:35,106
OF A SUDDEN SHE'LL BE A

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REPUBLICAN.

793
00:24:37,175 --> 00:24:38,610
>>> WE HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT.

794
00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:42,214
THE ALLEGED SITUATION IN PUBLIC

795
00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:43,982
SCHOOLS, IT'S NOT GOOD.

796
00:24:43,982 --> 00:24:44,983
A LITTLE ALARMING.

797
00:24:44,983 --> 00:24:46,985
HAS TO DO WITH THE PIPING INTO

798
00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:48,620
30 NEWARK SCHOOLS.

799
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:53,758
DOES THIS FRONT PAGE STORY

800
00:24:53,758 --> 00:24:57,329
INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF

801
00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:59,331
GETTING THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST

802
00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:00,332
FUND RENEWED?

803
00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:03,735
AT THE SAME TIME, I SAY THAT AND

804
00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:06,137
POINT OUT THAT TRANSPORTATION

805
00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:07,372
DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE

806
00:25:07,372 --> 00:25:09,341
ANYTHING TO DO WITH PLUMBING.

807
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:10,342
>> YEAH.

808
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:11,776
I MEAN, IT'S A TERRIBLE STORY,

809
00:25:11,776 --> 00:25:13,011
AND I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD,

810
00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:14,346
YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF

811
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:15,447
THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AROUND THE

812
00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:17,215
STATE WITH VERY SIMILAR

813
00:25:17,215 --> 00:25:19,751
PROBLEMS, AND HOUSING

814
00:25:19,751 --> 00:25:22,721
AUTHORITIES WHO ARE EQUALLY IN

815
00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:24,256
REALLY OLD BUILDINGS WITH OLD

816
00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:26,091
INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL.

817
00:25:26,091 --> 00:25:28,093
SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH

818
00:25:28,093 --> 00:25:29,127
IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT THE --

819
00:25:29,127 --> 00:25:30,795
REPORT TO THE TPF.

820
00:25:30,795 --> 00:25:32,364
BUT IT'S A BIG STORY.

821
00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:33,398
>> GOT TO WRAP IT UP THERE.

822
00:25:33,398 --> 00:25:34,399
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

823
00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:36,434
WE ARE OFF NEXT WEEK FOR THE

824
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EASTER HOLIDAY.

825
00:25:37,435 --> 00:25:39,437
BACK TO THE WEEKEND OF APRIL 2nd

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AND 3rd.

827
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I'M MICHAEL ARON.

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CORY BOOKER ABOUT HIS RECENT

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