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MICHAEL ARON IS OFF THIS WEEK.

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DEMOCRATS IN NEW JERSEY ARE

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STILL PREDICTING A POLITICAL

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THEY GATHERED IN ATLANTIC CITY

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THIS WEEK FOR THEIR ANNUAL

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CONVENTION AND BEHIND THE

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>> THE DEMOCRATS CONTINUED IN

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ATLANTIC CITY AGAINST THE

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>> HE'S IN TOWN, BUT GOVERNOR

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HERE.

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NOTED THAT WITH A MIFF.

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A CROWD OF POLITICAL LUMINARIES

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GATHERED TO MARK THE EVENT AND

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DOWN THIS MAGNIFICENT BOARDWALK

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AND STUMBLE UPON WHAT IS

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HAPPENING HERE TODAY.

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>> GREENWALD JOINED PRESIDENT

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STEVE SWEENEY WHO WAS WELCOMED

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EFFUSIVELY BY UNIVERSITY

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OFFICIALS.

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HE CLAIMED THERE'S NO BEEF WITH

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>> I WISH HE WAS HERE AND IF

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GOING TO THE CONVENTION?

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LEGISLATURE AND MYSELF AS A

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DISAGREE AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED

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TO LET THE LEADER OF THE PARTY

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CHOOSE ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

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PARTY AND I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO

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ON WHAT IT IS TO BE A DEMOCRAT

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PART AND THE STATE AND YOU WILL

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SEE A FIRED UP, PASSIONATE AND

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UNITED DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

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BRENDA FLANNIGAN.

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JOINING US NOW TO SWEEP UP THE

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STATE HOUSE PRESS CORPS AND THE

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EDITOR OF POLITIFACT.

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ADVANCED MEDIA AND JOHN

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GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO ALL OF

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YOU.

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NICHOLAS, LET'S START WITH YOU.

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THE LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC

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LEADERS OF BOTH LEGISLATIVE

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BODIES CHOSE TO BE ELSEWHERE

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THIS WEEKEND.

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IS THIS THE KIND OF UNITY THAT

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BOB MENENDEZ WANTS OR NEEDS?

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>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL

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AFFECT MENENDEZ, BUT YOU'VE GOT

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TO LOVE THE WAY SWEENEY HANDLES

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THIS.

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BUTTER WOULDN'T MELT IN HIS

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MOUTH.

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INVITED ME.

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>> CHARLIE?

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>> IS THERE REALLY, AS NICK

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SAYS, NADA?

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>> I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK

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THE -- THIS INTERNAL FRACAS IS

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GOING TO SHAPE THE CONTOURS OF

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THERE ARE OTHER DYNAMICS AT WORK

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AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PART OF

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IT IS THAT YOU A DEMOCRATIC

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PARTY BASE THAT'S JUST FIRED UP

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RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE WANTING TO

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SEND A MESSAGE TO THE TRUMP

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ADMINISTRATION AND THAT WILL

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OVERRIDE ANY OF THESE INTERNAL

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MECHANICS.

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LAST NIGHT AT THE CONVENTION

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THEY HAD 1100, 1200 PEOPLE THERE

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AND THEY WERE FIRED UP AND I

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THOUGHT IT WAS SIGNIFICANT THAT

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YOU'D SEE CORY BOOKER AND THEY

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HAD RALLIED THE TROOPS BEHIND

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THAT MESSAGE AND I THINK IT

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WOULD BE AN OVERRIDING THEME AND

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I DOUBT THAT THIS -- THIS IS AN

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INTERNAL STATE HOUSE FRACAS.

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IT'S NOT A CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

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OR IS THERE A DIVIDE BETWEEN

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NORTH AND SOUTH?

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>> JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS

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NOTHING STATEWIDE AND IT HAS

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NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STATEWIDE

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ELECTIONS AND IT HAS EVERYTHING

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TO DO WITH THE STATE HOUSE AND

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IN THOSE REGARDS IT IS A BIG

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PROBLEM.

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IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE,

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LOOK, THE DEMOCRATS WILL AGREE

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ON SOME THINGS AND THIS IS WHAT

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PHIL MURPHY AND GOVERNOR MURPHY

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IS SAYING, WE'LL GET SOME THINGS

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DONE AND Y THEY'LL PASS

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LEGISLATION AND THE FACT THAT

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STEVE SWEENEY WILL BE SUCH A

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THORN IN HIS SIDE WILL HOLD UP

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NOMINATIONS AND WE'LL DERAIL

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CERTAIN PARTS OF HIS AGENDA, IF

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IT'S AS SMALL AS ENDING THE BEAR

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HUNT IN NEW JERSEY WHICH

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GOVERNOR MURPHY SAID HE WANTED

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TO DO.

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HE CAN'T EVEN DO THAT, SOMETHING

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AS SMALL AS THAT BECAUSE STEVE

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SWEENEY IS A THORN IN HIS SIDE

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SO HE CAN'T GET CERTAIN MEMBERS

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ON PANELS AND COMMITTEES AND

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THAT'S JUST A SMALL EXAMPLE.

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ISSUE AND WHAT IT TELLS US EIGHT

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MONTHS IN IS THAT, YOU KNOW,

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EVERYBODY IS DIGGING IN ON THIS.

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THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT -- THE

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FRESHMAN GOVERNOR AND HE'S NOT

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TAKEN ANY LESSONS FROM THE

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BUDGET SIDE.

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HE'S STILL DUG IN AND WE KNOW

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THAT BECAUSE STEVE SWEENEY IS

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STILL TAKING SHOTS AND THAT'S

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NOT TO SAY IT'S THE GOVERNOR'S

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FAULT, BUT THE EXECUTIVE HAS TO

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WORK WITH THE LEGISLATIVE GRANT

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AND SO FAR IT'S -- JOHN, IS

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THERE ANY DANGER THAT ALL OF

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THIS POLITICAL INFIGHTING WILL

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JUST HAVE SOME PEOPLE STAYING

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HOME AND WHAT THE DEMOCRATS NEED

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IS A BIG TURNOUT.

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I MEAN, I THINK THE BIG THING

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THAT WOULD -- THAT OTHERWISE

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WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN THAT YOU

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HAVE, AS CHARLIE SAID, ALL OF

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THIS ENTHUSIASM, AND WHAT I

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WOULD SAY IS THE TOP OF THE

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TICKET AND IT'S NOT REALLY THE

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TOP OF THE TICKET AND PEOPLE

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WANTING TO HAVE A CHECK ON THE

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PRESIDENT AND SO WHETHER THAT'S

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THE SENATE RACE OR THE HOUSE

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RACES, YOU HAVE A SITUATION

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WHERE THAT WILL PREVAIL IN THE

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UNITY AND IT'S CLASSIC THAT NJ

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DEMOCRATS IN A YEAR WHEN THIS

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BRASS RING OF, YOU KNOW,

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TAKING -- MAYBE HAVING ALL OF

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THIS HOUSE SEATS BECOME

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DEMOCRATIC IN NEW JERSEY.

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WHEN HAS THAT POSSIBILITY EVER

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BEEN THERE.

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THEY CAN'T GET THEIR ACT

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TOGETHER AND HAVE EVENTS AS ALL

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A UNIFIED GROUP.

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THE ONE THING I WILL SAY TO

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MATT'S POINT IS IF YOU ACCEPT

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THE PREMISE OF THE POLICIES THAT

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YOU'RE TRYING TO ENACT ARE GOOD

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THINGS FOR NEW JERSEY RESIDENTS

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AND WHETHER THAT'S INCREASING

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THE MINIMUM WAGE AND LEGALIZING

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RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, THE

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PERSONAL DISAGREEMENTS SEEM TO

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BE GETTING IN THE WAY OF THE

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PROGRESS ON THE POLICY

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ACCOMPLISHMENT.

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>> IF WE ACCEPT THE PREMISE THAT

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THESE WILL IMPROVE THE LIVES OF

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NEW JERSEY RESIDENT, THEN YES,

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WHAT IS STANDING IN THE WAY OF

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SOME OF THESE THINGS REACHING

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THE FINISH LINE ARE TRUE POLICY

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CONCERNS AND JUST PERSONAL

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DISAGREEMENTS AND THAT'S NOT

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GOOD FOR ANYBODY.

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>> I WOULD JUST SAY TO BOLSTER

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MATT'S POINT, THE DYE WAS CAST,

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AS WE HAVE THE GROUND AND THE

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STAKES AND EACH SIDE WAS -- AND

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I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT

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STAY THERE, AND IT'S ONLY GOING

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TO KALS PHI, AND YOU HAVE TO

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WONDER IS THERE ANY WAY TO

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APPROACH IT AND I DON'T SEE IT

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AND YOU HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT

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SWEENEY'S LONG-TERM AMBITION,

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TOO, AS HE STARTS BUILDING THE

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BASE AND PIECES FOR MURPHY DOWN

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THE ROAD.

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ALL OF THIS WITH JUST A FEW

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LET ME THROW THIS ON TOP OF

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THAT.

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THE NEW 800-POUND GORILLA INTO

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THE POLITICAL ZOO OF NEW JERSEY,

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MICHAEL SLOVINO AND HE MANAGED

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TO OFFEND BLACK, SIKHS AND ALL

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POLITICIANS IN NEW JERSEY IN ONE

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PRIVATE CONVERSATION.

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WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS ON

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THIS, ON ANYTHING?

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>> LET'S START WITH IF YOU ARE A

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PUBLIC OFFICIAL YOU MUST ASSUME

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THAT EVERY CONVERSATION YOU HAVE

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IS BEING TAPED.

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YOU MUST ASSUME IT BECAUSE

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EVERYBODY -- HAS IN THEIR POCKET

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A DEVICE BY WHICH YOU CAN BE

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RIDICULOUSED AND YOU HAVE TO BE

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INCREDIBLY STUPID TO SAY THINGS

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LIKE THIS EVEN IN A PRIVATE

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MEETING.

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>> BUT DOES THE FACT THAT HE

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THOUGHT IT WAS A PRIVATE

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CONVERSATION CHANGE ANYTHING?

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THOSE WERE HIS PRIVATE THOUGHTS.

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HE SAID THAT NOTHING IN HIS

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PUBLIC LIFE HAS BEEN REFLECTIVE

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OF THAT.

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>> IT DOESN'T MATTER.

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>> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS NOT A

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SCRUBBED PUBLIC STATEMENT, BUT,

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YOU KNOW, FEEL NEGLIGENCE RAW

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CANDOR AND WHETHER IT DID OR NOT

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IT'S IMMATERIAL NOW FOR HIM, AND

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EVERYTHING THAT HE SAYS WILL BE

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SEEN THROUGH THAT.

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SO THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE FOR

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THE SHERIFF, BUT THAT'S, YOU

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KNOW, AND HE DIDN'T TRY TO DENY

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IT, SO --

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>> HOW CAN HE?

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IT'S LEAK A CRAZY UNCLE JOE AT

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DINNER.

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>> THE SHERIFF OF -- OF -- THE

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LARGEST, SECOND LARGEST COUNTY

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IN THE STATE.

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>> AND OVERSEAS AND THE SECOND

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BIGGEST NEXT TO THE PROSECUTOR,

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LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL TALKING

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ABOUT UNDERPRIVILEGED OR

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MINORITY GROUPS IN THIS WAY AND

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FRANKLY, AS WE KNOW THE HISTORY

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OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW,

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THEY'VE -- AND IT'S A TREMENDOUS

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TENSION.

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>> I THINK THERE'S MAJOR TENSION

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BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS AND

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HERE YOU HAVE THE TOP COP

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SAYING, MAKING THESE RIDICULOUS

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AND VULGAR COMMENTS ABOUT

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BLACKS.

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>> LET'S PUT IT IN THE BROADER

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CONTEXT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN

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THE STATE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

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COMMUNITY AND SOME THINGS ARE

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BEING SAID THAT ARE UNFOUNDED

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AND HERE YOU HAVE A SITUATION

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WHERE IT DOES NOT DO WELL FOR

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LAW ENFORCEMENT TRYING TO PUT

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ITS BEST FOOT FORWARD WHEN YOU

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HAVE A HIGH-RANKING OFFICIAL

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SPEAKING IN THIS WAY.

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>> CORRECT, WHETHER MEANT TO SAY

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IT PUBLICLY OR NOT, IT'S SAID

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AND THE DAMAGE IS DONE.

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SO IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF ONE OF

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THESE COMMUNITIES AND YOU HEAR

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SOMEONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT

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SPEAKING THIS WAY, IT JUST

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VALIDATES ALL OF THE THINGS THAT

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YOU THINK IS BAD WITH LAW

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ENFORCEMENT TO BEGIN WITH,

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WHETHER THEY'RE TRUE OR NOT.

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>> SO UNANIMOUS CONDEMNATION OF

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THESE COMMENTS.

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HE HAS APOLOGIZED AND IT DOESN'T

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REFLECT THE PERSON THAT HE IS

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TODAY AND A, IS THAT ENOUGH AND

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B, IS THAT ENOUGH?

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>> BERGEN COUNTY ELECTED

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OFFICIALS ARE SAYING HE SHOULD

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STEP ASIDE.

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IT LOOKS LIKE THE WRITING IS ON

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THE WALL.

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HE DOESN'T HAVE SUPPORT FROM

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ANYONE IN HIS OWN PARTY AND HE

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WAS A REPUBLICAN AND NOW HE'S A

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DEMOCRATIC SHERIFF AND NO

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SUPPORT IN THE PARTY AND I KNOW

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HE'S UP FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR,

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SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PROCESS

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WORKS WITH ALL OF THAT IN TERMS

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OF GETTING SOMEBODY ELSE IN

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THERE, BUT LOOK.

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THE WRITING SEEMS TO BE ON THE

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WALL AND EVERYBODY WHO SHOULD BE

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THE ALLY IS SAYING STEP ASIDE.

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>> HE'S GOT, WHAT?

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A YEAR LEFT?

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE

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LEVERAGE IS GOING COME FROM.

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I THINK HE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL

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OFFICER AND HE'S ELECTED AND HE

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CAN ARGUE WELL AND LET THE

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VOTERS DECIDE.

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVERAGE

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THE BERGEN DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS

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TO GET HIM OUT OF THERE.

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>> IF IT'S IN THE NEWS AND IT

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CONTINUES TO MAKE THE STORY THAT

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MIGHT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE AND

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THE DEMOCRATS -- BERGEN COUNTY

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WOULD NEED TO GET 150,000

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SIGNATURES IN A WEEK.

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>> RUNNING AGAIN WOULD BE

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EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

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THE PARTY WOULD NOMINATE

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SOMEBODY ELSE.

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>> IS IT A DANGER TO DEMOCRATS

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RIGHT NOW?

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AS THEY TRY ASK PRESENT -- NO.

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HE'S NOT CONSIDERED A GOOD

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DEMOCRAT.

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>> HE WAS A REPUBLICAN WHO

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SWITCHED PARTIES.

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>> AND BACK TO THE EARLIER

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ISSUE, THIS ELECTION IS

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EVERYTHING ABOUT TRUMP AND

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NOTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON

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STATEWIDE IN NEW JERSEY.

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IT'S ALL ABOUT PRESIDENT DONALD

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TRUMP WITH THE EXCEPTION OF

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MENENDEZ AND HIS RACE IS

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DIFFERENT BECAUSE HE'S EMBROILED

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IN HIS OWN CONTROVERSY, BUT

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OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST ALL

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TRUMP.

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>> DESPITE THE ADVICE FROM THE

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NATIONAL PARTY WHICH WAS TO ALL

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THESE HOUSE RACES, KEEP IT

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LOCAL, STUPID.

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IN NEW JERSEY, TRUMP IS A MUCH

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BIGGER ISSUE THAN THE STATE

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ISSUES.

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>> 100%.

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>> YEAH.

430
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>> LET'S GO TO SOME OF THOSE

431
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MIDTERMS.

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SOME NEWS THIS WEEK OUT OF THE

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SEVENTH DISTRICT WHERE I GUESS

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IT WAS MONMOUTH POLL AND THE

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INCUMBENT, 47-39.

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SURPRISED ANY OF YOU?

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>> I'M SURPRISED THAT THE

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MAGNITUDE OF IT.

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YEAH.

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>> WITH LIKELY VOTERS?

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>> OH, YEAH.

442
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>> AMONG LIKELY VOTERS, THE

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MARGIN WAS ONLY A FEW POINTS AND

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IT WAS IN THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

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>> BUT THE DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER

446
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WAS STILL UP AND HOWEVER THAT

447
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ADVANTAGE SHRUNK.

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>> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT

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DISTRICT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT

450
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ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THE TRUMP

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AND THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN TAX

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CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR.

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THE PART OF IT THAT AFFECTS THE

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PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GOING TO

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BENEFIT FROM THE BIGGER STANDARD

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DEDUCTION AND WILL GET HIT BY A

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NEW CAP ON HOW MUCH THEY CAN

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DEDUCT IN STATE AND LOCAL TAXES.

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SO EVEN THOUGH LANCE OPPOSES

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THAT AND HAD OPPOSED THAT CAP

461
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BEING PUT IN PLACE AND THESE

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FORCES ARE BIGGER THAN WHAT YOUR

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LOCAL --

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>> AND HILLARY CLINTON CARRIED

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THAT DISTRICT, BUT SHE CARRIED

466
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IT.

467
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>> POINT BY POINT AND TAKE A

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LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC

469
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REGISTRATION AND IT'S GROWN

470
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EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE PAST FOUR

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OR SIX YEARS AND IT'S BECOME

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THIS HOTBED OF RESISTANCE

473
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ACTIVISM AND I DON'T KNOW.

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THOSE NUMBERS DID SURPRISE ME A

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LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S BEEN A

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COMPETITIVE DISTRICT IN THE

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PAST, BUT HE'S ALWAYS HELD ON,

478
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LEONARD.

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>> TO WHAT CAN WE ATTRIBUTE THE

480
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SURPRISE?

481
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>> TWO WORDS.

482
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>> DONALD TRUMP.

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>> WHOSE GOLF COURSE -- YOU SAID

484
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YOU WERE SURPRISED.

485
00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:19,600
YOU WERE SURPRISED WHY?

486
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>> I THINK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

487
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HISTORICAL PATTERN IN THE

488
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DISTRICT.

489
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IT DOESN'T REALLY SURPRISE ME,

490
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MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG WORD.

491
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>> AND HE HAS HIS OWN FOLLOWING

492
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AND HE'S DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM

493
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TRUMP.

494
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>> HE HAS THIS REPUTATION THAT

495
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HE'S BUILT AS SORT OF THIS

496
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PRAGMATIC MODERATE WHEN THE TOWN

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HALLS AND WITH THE ATTEMPT TO

498
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REPEAL THE ACA AND THE OBAMACARE

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WAS THE TOP ISSUE OF FURY AT THE

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TIME, AND HE TOOK THE BRAVE STEP

501
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AND THE POLITICALLY BRAVE STEP

502
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OF CONFRONTING HIS TORMENTOR

503
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CRITICS AND HE GOT A LOT OF

504
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NATIONAL PRESS FOR THAT.

505
00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:07,866
>> INCUMBENCY DOES COME WITH A

506
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LOT OF BENEFITS AND ESPECIALLY

507
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WITH THE CASE LIKE LEONARD LANCE

508
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AND HE'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES

509
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AND IT'S ALSO INCUMBENCY THAT

510
00:17:15,833 --> 00:17:17,233
COMES WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF

511
00:17:17,233 --> 00:17:18,966
FOLKS REALLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

512
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>> WHEN CHARLIE IS SAYING A BIT

513
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OF A SURPRISE AND HE'S A KNOWN

514
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ENTITY.

515
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>> HE'S A WILEY POLITICIAN.

516
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WHEN HE WAS UNDER PRESSURE FROM

517
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THE TEA PARTY HE SHIFTED TO THE

518
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RIGHT.

519
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,633
>> YOU LOOK AT HIS RECORD ON KEY

520
00:17:33,633 --> 00:17:35,200
ISSUES, IMMIGRATION, GUN, HEALTH

521
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,633
CARE.

522
00:17:35,633 --> 00:17:38,666
HE BENDS IT TO PROTECT HIS FLANK

523
00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:39,933
AND IN THE LAST TWO YEARS YOU

524
00:17:39,933 --> 00:17:41,466
SEE HIM ON HIS VERY ISSUES AND

525
00:17:41,466 --> 00:17:43,666
HE MOVES TO THE CENTER AND IT

526
00:17:43,666 --> 00:17:47,500
MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.

527
00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:50,433
>> HE'S A MEMBER OF THE PROBLEM

528
00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:51,666
SOLVER'S CAUCUS.

529
00:17:51,666 --> 00:17:53,866
>> NOBODY AT HOME IS --

530
00:17:53,866 --> 00:17:57,033
>> WHAT HE'S DOING IS TRYING TO

531
00:17:57,033 --> 00:17:58,900
POSITION HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE

532
00:17:58,900 --> 00:17:59,266
SOMEWHERE.

533
00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:02,400
>> I WAS SURPRISED BY THE

534
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:02,766
MAGNITUDE.

535
00:18:02,766 --> 00:18:04,966
I STILL THINK IT'S A VERY CLOSE

536
00:18:04,966 --> 00:18:05,266
RACE.

537
00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:08,866
>> THE INCUMBENCY OR THE

538
00:18:08,866 --> 00:18:09,900
MCARTHUR INCUMBENCY, BECAUSE

539
00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:11,466
HE'S GOT A LOT THAT HE CAN POINT

540
00:18:11,466 --> 00:18:14,533
TO AND A LOT THAT CAN BE POINTED

541
00:18:14,533 --> 00:18:14,800
TO.

542
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,900
>> EVEN BEFORE HE REPRESENTED

543
00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:17,333
THAT AREA IN THE STATE

544
00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:18,366
LEGISLATURE FOREVER.

545
00:18:18,366 --> 00:18:20,933
>> IF YOU LOOK AT ALSO SOME OF

546
00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:24,133
THE SUPER PAC ADS ATTACKING THE

547
00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:25,733
DISTRICT, THEY'RE LIKE ACID BATH

548
00:18:25,733 --> 00:18:26,800
TYPE OF ADS.

549
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,966
IT'S JUST WAY OVER THE TOP AND I

550
00:18:28,966 --> 00:18:34,466
DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS POLL IS

551
00:18:34,466 --> 00:18:36,000
YET, AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF

552
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,900
THIS IS A REPUDIATION OF THAT

553
00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,900
APPROACH AND AN ATTACK AND IT

554
00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:43,300
DOESN'T REALLY ATTACK HIM ON

555
00:18:43,300 --> 00:18:45,733
POLICY, JUST ON TRYING TO

556
00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:48,633
DISCREDIT HIS PERSONAL STATURE.

557
00:18:48,633 --> 00:18:53,066
I DON'T KNOW.

558
00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,766
MAYBE IF IT CONTINUES AND YOU'RE

559
00:18:55,766 --> 00:18:58,366
DOING THE RACE IS CLOSE.

560
00:18:58,366 --> 00:19:00,633
>> IN THE 11th, WE WERE TALKING

561
00:19:00,633 --> 00:19:02,100
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.

562
00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:06,066
HE ENDORSED, A FULL-THROATED

563
00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:07,400
ENDORSEMENT OF JAKE WEBBER.

564
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,366
GOOD NEWS FOR HIM?

565
00:19:08,366 --> 00:19:10,233
>> THIS GOES BACK TO EVERYTHING

566
00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:11,766
ABOUT BEING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP,

567
00:19:11,766 --> 00:19:12,066
RIGHT?

568
00:19:12,066 --> 00:19:13,433
GREAT NEWS PROBABLY FOR JAY

569
00:19:13,433 --> 00:19:14,300
WEBBER IN THE SENSE THAT DONALD

570
00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,266
TRUMP TWEETED OUT ENDORSEMENT

571
00:19:16,266 --> 00:19:18,166
AND JAY WEBBER RE-TWEETED IT,

572
00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:19,833
BUT WILLING TO BET THAT THAT'S

573
00:19:19,833 --> 00:19:21,233
GOING TO BE COMING UP IN A

574
00:19:21,233 --> 00:19:22,733
CAMPAIGN AD FOR CHERYL, RIGHT?

575
00:19:22,733 --> 00:19:24,633
SO IF SHE'S GOING TO BE DOING

576
00:19:24,633 --> 00:19:26,566
EVERYTHING SHE CAN TO LOB THAT

577
00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:27,366
AGAINST HIM.

578
00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:30,333
>> SHE'S GOT BOAT LOADS OF MONEY

579
00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:31,600
AND HE DOESN'T.

580
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,166
>> IS JAY WEBBER CALLING THE

581
00:19:33,166 --> 00:19:36,966
WHITE HOUSE SAYING, HEY, MAN, I

582
00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:38,366
REALLY NEED THAT ENDORSEMENT

583
00:19:38,366 --> 00:19:39,433
FROM YOU, POTUS.

584
00:19:39,433 --> 00:19:43,366
>> IN TERMS OF THE REPUBLICAN

585
00:19:43,366 --> 00:19:44,600
FIGURES IN NEW JERSEY, HE'S

586
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,900
PRETTY FAR TO THE RIGHT AS A

587
00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:46,866
STATE OFFICIAL.

588
00:19:46,866 --> 00:19:49,266
IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THAT HE

589
00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:51,100
WOULD EMBRACE ENDORSEMENT JUST

590
00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:52,233
BECAUSE OF WHERE YOU ARE

591
00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:52,900
POLITICALLY.

592
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,333
>> HE ALSO NEEDS THAT BASE

593
00:19:55,333 --> 00:19:57,166
SOLIDIFIED BY, HE CAN'T WIN

594
00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:58,933
WITHOUT THE REPUBLICAN SPACE

595
00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,833
SOLIDIFIED AND THAT PUTS THE

596
00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:02,666
STILLS AND THE DILEMMA THAT HE'S

597
00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:03,233
IN.

598
00:20:03,233 --> 00:20:04,833
>> YOU CAN'T EVEN PRESENT THAT

599
00:20:04,833 --> 00:20:05,133
BASE.

600
00:20:05,133 --> 00:20:07,966
IT'S NOT A CHANCE UNLESS THEY'RE

601
00:20:07,966 --> 00:20:10,500
BEHIND HIM AT 85%.

602
00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,566
AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SO

603
00:20:12,566 --> 00:20:13,466
LONG-WINDED TODAY THAT WE'LL

604
00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:14,200
MOVE ON.

605
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,333
>> JUST TODAY?

606
00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:21,733
>> I WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS TIGHT

607
00:20:21,733 --> 00:20:24,133
TIME WISE WITH THE CITY

608
00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:25,633
COUNCILMAN MARCELLUS JACKSON WHO

609
00:20:25,633 --> 00:20:28,866
WAS HIRED BY THE ADMINISTRATION

610
00:20:28,866 --> 00:20:30,766
FOR A JOB IN THE EDUCATION

611
00:20:30,766 --> 00:20:31,866
DEPARTMENT AND HE'D DONE TIME

612
00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:34,833
FOR TAKING A BRIBE BACK IN THE

613
00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:37,300
'07 OR '09 OR SOMETHING LIKE

614
00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:39,266
THAT, AND HE'S OUTRAGED SOME

615
00:20:39,266 --> 00:20:41,833
PEOPLE AND NOT FESSLY DEMOCRATS.

616
00:20:41,833 --> 00:20:43,900
WE HAVE ONE REPUBLICAN WHO SAID

617
00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:44,966
SHE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE A BILL

618
00:20:44,966 --> 00:20:48,900
TO MAKE IT SO THAT YOU CAN'T RUN

619
00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:52,033
FOR A SERVANT PUBLIC IF YOU'VE

620
00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:54,233
DONE TIME OR BEEN FOUND GUILTY

621
00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:55,400
ON PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

622
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,566
LET'S HEAR FROM HOLLY.

623
00:20:56,566 --> 00:20:59,033
>> I AM 100% FOR PEOPLE HAVING

624
00:20:59,033 --> 00:21:00,266
SECOND CHANCES.

625
00:21:00,266 --> 00:21:06,433
I'VE ACTUALLY SPONSORED

626
00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:08,133
LEGISLATION THAT LOOKS TO

627
00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:09,266
REHABILITATE PEOPLE AND HOWEVER,

628
00:21:09,266 --> 00:21:10,833
THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE NEW FORM

629
00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:12,233
AND THERE IS NOTHING NORMAL

630
00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:13,800
ABOUT A CORRUPT ELECTED OFFICIAL

631
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,700
WHO HAS GONE TO PRISON FOR

632
00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:16,766
BRIBERY GOING BACK TO WORK IN

633
00:21:16,766 --> 00:21:18,566
THE GOVERNMENT.

634
00:21:18,566 --> 00:21:19,966
THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE

635
00:21:19,966 --> 00:21:25,633
BETWEEN SECOND CHANCES AND WHAT

636
00:21:25,633 --> 00:21:26,866
ACCEPTABLE FORMS OF EMPLOYMENT

637
00:21:26,866 --> 00:21:28,133
ARE FOR THAT SECOND CHANCE.

638
00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:29,900
>> LET ME GET REAL QUICK FROM

639
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,166
ANY ONE OF YOU ON THIS.

640
00:21:31,166 --> 00:21:32,900
>> WE DON'T LET PEOPLE LIKE THAT

641
00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:37,100
RUN FOR OFFICE.

642
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,366
>> ANYONE ELSE DISAGREE WITH

643
00:21:38,366 --> 00:21:38,666
THAT?

644
00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:40,966
>> IF THIS HAPPENED DURING CHRIS

645
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,300
CHRISTIE, WHAT IF DONALD TRUMP

646
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,700
HIRED SOMEONE OF THIS BACKGROUND

647
00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,233
FOR HIS ADMINISTRATION, WHAT

648
00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:46,833
WOULD DEMOCRATS BE SAYING?

649
00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:48,266
>> IT'S FINE FOR THE GOVERNOR TO

650
00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:49,966
SAY THAT EVERYONE DESERVES A

651
00:21:49,966 --> 00:21:50,400
SECOND CHANCE.

652
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,600
>> IT'S NOT THE SECOND CHANCE

653
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,733
THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHEN

654
00:21:53,733 --> 00:21:54,866
THINKING OF SECONDS CHANCES.

655
00:21:54,866 --> 00:21:58,000
>> IT'S NOT LIKE A LONG AGO

656
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:58,700
SECOND CHANCE.

657
00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,966
YOU'RE PUTTING SOMEONE IN A

658
00:21:59,966 --> 00:22:03,600
POSITION THAT VIOLATED --

659
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,800
>> LET'S SAY ALSO IN THE

660
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,366
BACKDROP OF THE ADMINISTRATION

661
00:22:06,366 --> 00:22:08,666
THAT HE HASN'T EMPHASIZED ETHICS

662
00:22:08,666 --> 00:22:09,100
REFORMAT ALL.

663
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,100
>> LET'S GET TO THE JOURNALISTIC

664
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:14,233
HIGH POINTS OF THE WEEK.

665
00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:15,633
>> YOU TEED MINE UP.

666
00:22:15,633 --> 00:22:17,733
I REACHED THAT POINT IN YOUR

667
00:22:17,733 --> 00:22:18,866
CAREER COVERING NEW JERSEY

668
00:22:18,866 --> 00:22:20,033
POLITICS THAT FROM OLDER

669
00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:21,166
REPORTERS HAVE REACHED WHERE YOU

670
00:22:21,166 --> 00:22:24,600
HAVE COVERED SOMEONE'S ARREST

671
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,700
AND BEEN IN THEIR JOB FOR THE

672
00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:28,300
ENTIRE TIME IN PRISON AND NOW

673
00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:29,566
ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEM

674
00:22:29,566 --> 00:22:36,033
RE-ENTERING PUBLIC LIFE.

675
00:22:36,033 --> 00:22:41,033
>> THE CIRCLE OF LIFE AND THIS

676
00:22:41,033 --> 00:22:42,100
ELECTION CYCLE EVEN THOUGH NEW

677
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,133
JERSEY IS DEMOCRATIC AND THE

678
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:45,466
FIRST TIME IN A FEW DECADES THAT

679
00:22:45,466 --> 00:22:47,533
THE HOUSE RACES MATTERED.

680
00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:49,033
>> EACH IN THE SUMMER WHICH WAS

681
00:22:49,033 --> 00:22:50,566
SUPPOSEDLY THE QUIET TIME, IT

682
00:22:50,566 --> 00:22:51,666
WAS VERY ACTIVE.

683
00:22:51,666 --> 00:22:52,933
>> YEAH.

684
00:22:52,933 --> 00:22:54,833
>> GEE, I DON'T HAVE ONE OTHER

685
00:22:54,833 --> 00:22:58,533
THAN LAST NIGHT I WANT TO PAT

686
00:22:58,533 --> 00:22:59,066
MYSELF ON THE BACK.

687
00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:00,766
>> YOU CAN'T SHOW UP WITHOUT

688
00:23:00,766 --> 00:23:01,200
ONE --

689
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,766
>> I'M WORKING ON IT.

690
00:23:02,766 --> 00:23:07,433
>> DID YOU NOT GET THE MEMO?

691
00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:09,300
CORY BOOKER, AFTER HIS ROUSING

692
00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:10,533
SPEECH AND BRENDA WAS THERE AND

693
00:23:10,533 --> 00:23:12,066
SHE CAN ATTEST TO THIS AND I

694
00:23:12,066 --> 00:23:14,600
LOST MY TEMPER, BUT IT WAS WITH

695
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,566
SOME GUY WHO WAS PRESSING MAYBE

696
00:23:16,566 --> 00:23:18,500
A LITTLE TOO HARD ON MY RIGHT

697
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:18,866
SHOULDER.

698
00:23:18,866 --> 00:23:20,566
WE GOT INTO A WAR OF WORDS, BUT

699
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:27,300
I CONTAINED MYSELF.

700
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:28,366
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT

701
00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:32,000
HAPPENED, BUT IT HAPPENED.

702
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,933
>>.

703
00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:37,166
>> THAT WAS THE --

704
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:37,500
>> YEAH.

705
00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:38,166
IT WAS BECOMING NEWS, RIGHT?

706
00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,933
>> RIGHT.

707
00:23:40,933 --> 00:23:44,100
>> I HAD A CAMERAMAN ONCE WHO

708
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:45,366
KICKED SOMEONE WHO KEPT GETTING

709
00:23:45,366 --> 00:23:46,666
INTO HIS SHOT, BUT THAT WAS A

710
00:23:46,666 --> 00:23:47,566
DIFFERENT TIME.

711
00:23:47,566 --> 00:23:49,466
>> YOU TEED IT UP FOR ME, TOO.

712
00:23:49,466 --> 00:23:53,100
>> I HAVE NO LETTERS TO THE

713
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:54,900
EDITOR AND I GET VERY LITTLE

714
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:55,266
FEEDBACK.

715
00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:56,366
THE FEEDBACK ON THE HIRING OF

716
00:23:56,366 --> 00:24:00,666
THIS GUY AND THE EDUCATION

717
00:24:00,666 --> 00:24:06,300
DEPARTMENT WAS OUTRAGEOUS.

718
00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:07,600
I'VE GOT PEOPLE CALLING ME

719
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,466
SAYING MAYBE HE DESERVES A

720
00:24:09,466 --> 00:24:09,900
SECOND CHANCE.

721
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:11,533
>> I AM COMPETING WITH PAULA

722
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,833
WHITE, THE WOMAN WHO WAS FIRED

723
00:24:13,833 --> 00:24:16,033
BECAUSE THE NJEA DIDN'T LIKE

724
00:24:16,033 --> 00:24:16,300
HER.

725
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:16,833
>> RIGHT.

726
00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:22,733
>> BUT I GOT OUTRAGE ON THE

727
00:24:22,733 --> 00:24:23,100
TELEPHONE.

728
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,833
>> A JOURNALISTIC HIGH POINT.

729
00:24:24,833 --> 00:24:26,400
>> A JOURNALISTIC MOMENT

730
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,966
INDEPENDENT MY JOURNALISTIC HIGH

731
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,300
POINT OF THE WEEK AS I HAVE BEEN

732
00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:35,733
ON VACATION FOR THE LAST TWO IS

733
00:24:35,733 --> 00:24:36,466
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

734
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:39,500
>> YOU ARE IT!

735
00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:42,800
MICK, CHARLIE, MATTHEW AND JOHN,

736
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,800
IT FELT LIKE --

737
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,533
>> UP NEXT, ON NJTV, IT'S ON THE

738
00:24:48,533 --> 00:24:48,866
RECORD.

739
00:24:48,866 --> 00:24:50,300
THIS WEEK WE TALK WITH SENATE

740
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:52,300
MAJORITY LEADER LORETTA

741
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,066
WEINBERG, A TOP DEMOCRAT, ABOUT

742
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:56,233
WHY SHE'S SKIPPING THE STATE

743
00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,266
PARTY CONVENTION AND REPUBLICAN

744
00:24:58,266 --> 00:25:01,466
ASSEMBLY WOMAN HOLLY SHAPIZI

745
00:25:01,466 --> 00:25:03,133
DISCUSSES ETHICS AND POLITICS

746
00:25:03,133 --> 00:25:04,766
AND THE GOVERNOR'S HIRING OF

747
00:25:04,766 --> 00:25:11,733
FORMER COUNCILMAN WHO DID GET

748
00:25:11,733 --> 00:25:12,066
BRIBERY.

749
00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:13,466
YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK

750
00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:14,700
AND TWITTER.

751
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:16,133
I'M DAVID CRUZ FOR MICHAEL ARON

752
00:25:16,133 --> 00:25:18,700
AND ALL OF US AT NJTV.

753
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,066
THANKS FOR WATCHING.

754
00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:21,733
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755
00:25:21,733 --> 00:25:25,833
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756
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760
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761
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762
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763
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764
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766
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769
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770
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771
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772
00:26:01,966 --> 00:26:04,300
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773
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:22,466
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