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>> The ballots are all set.

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Are you ready for some

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primaries?

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Hey, everybody.

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It is Reporters Roundtable.

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I am David Cruz.

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Our panel today is ripe with

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Mr. Johnson is a reporter.

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Charlie Stiles is a political

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Terrance McDonald is the editor

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of New Jersey monitor.

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We will get to the panel in just

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a few minutes, we begin today by

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celebrating filing day.

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Hundreds of candidates filing to

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run this week.

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All 80 assembly seats up, 40

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seats in the Senate, plus County

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and local races.

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Michael rasmussen is the founder

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of several filing date drinking

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games.

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He joins us now.

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Welcome.

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>> Thanks, David.

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>> Let's talk about the 800

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pound Former President in the

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Your thoughts on what the

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indictment of Donald Trump could

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>> No one has even seen the

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indictment yet, so that will be

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that in New Jersey, particularly

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voters have not had much use for

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Donald Trump ever.

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on the rest of the Republican

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party its elected officials to

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defend Donald Trump every day,

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and I do not think that is a

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good thing for the party.

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Host: Brett, do you want to jump

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>> What might this do to

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Republicans running in those

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in New Jersey that often try to

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turn on other issues, send

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candidates from trying.

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will try to fire up their base

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with trump supporters with red

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meat about this witchhunt that

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Donald Trump calls it, but there

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is not a good, strong nexus

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firing of the base, as you said,

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everything they said in the

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primary become an albatross in

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general election prospect, he is

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indictment, but it seems to be

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party, and that is probably not

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good news for the party when it

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comes to the general election.

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biggest turnover already in the

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legislature I can remember,

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it was just time.

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pending heavyweight matchup

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current Senator date Cody and

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county line in the past.

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their own right.

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in her prime?

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popularity with the party and

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her constituents?

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because date Cody -- Dick Cody

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will have the line.

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well-known legislatures --

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legislators in New Jersey.

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will bring enough firepower to

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overcome that?

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favor of Cody because of

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redistricting, right?

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bit of -- and there, and it

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of Essex County that Gill has

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Host: What other primaries of

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>> The only other show in town

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for Democrats is some

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progressives are running against

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Angela Knight and the 31st

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district, but other than those

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whether Senator Edgar -- Ed

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Gurr, lightning can strike for

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district, which Republican will

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win denomination to replace

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Senator Fred Madden.

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northwest New Jersey in Morris

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and Sussex and parts of Warren

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Host: That is to replace Steve

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very hotly contested race for

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the two assembly seats.

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Chester Mayor versus Board of

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a State Senator is running

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against the Morris County

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Commissioner, who has run

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against the line before and won.

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Host: We were talking yesterday.

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we want to keep a look into in

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the fall with a senator.

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>> Exactly, the question is can

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they mount a serious editor --

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challenger Senator Gopau.

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have come after him, and have

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a very strong campaign to drive

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challenge, but this is someone

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who is new to elected politics

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and will be running hard.

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campaign, and we will see what

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he can make out of it.

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Host: Real quick before I let

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you go, how much is this mess at

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the elections law enforcement

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commission.

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play into the primaries if at

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campaign-finance is going to be

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the wild West, this bill is

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going to be a get out of jail

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free card for so many current

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that it is going to be a

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prominent public issue, though

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it probably should be.

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respected judges who have

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resigned in protest en masse.

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We ought to listen to what they

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The fact is money will be looser

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in our campaigns, and that is

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the direct impact it will have

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Host: It has been a week.

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Host: Brent, Charlie, Terrence,

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The indicted Donald Trump.

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recurring Freddy Krueger horror

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Republicans who have been trying

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to step away and reassert a

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slightly more centrist

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positioning.

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They see the suburbs being lost,

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even though there was some

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gaining back.

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The long-term fear is that they

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are going to lose what was their

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traditional base in areas like

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Mars and Somerset and Union

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County, particularly among women

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voters.

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And here comes Donald Trump,

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here comes Stormy Daniels,

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Michael Cohen, David Becker into

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one molted ball of sleaze that

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is just going to roll over the

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Republican brand.

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And it is -- you know, I would

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think this is a bad day for

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anybody who is carrying the aura

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on their back.

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Host: Some of the names in

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there, stormy, pecker, this

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story is writing itself.

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>> [LAUGHTER]

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>> I think things might be more

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unpredictable than Charlie

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thinks.

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Or 2021 four months I was

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getting Donald centric mailers

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because of the Governor

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oppressiveness race, and did

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help the governor win

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reelection.

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Some Republicans in parts of the

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state fell.

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I do not know that it

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necessarily means disaster for

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Republicans everywhere in the

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state.

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Host: The conservative wing of

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the New Jersey Republican party

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had been researching to this

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point.

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Is this good or bad for them?

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>> I do not know.

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I think the name Trump will be

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on the present throughout the

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campaign season whether on the

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tongues of Democrats or

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Republicans.

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Republicans came out in the last

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election, the Congressional

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midterm election, saying we have

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to get away from Donald Trump

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because it will hurt our brand

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and hurt us in legislative

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elections.

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I do not think there will be a

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lot of rejoicing among moderate

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leaders, but there are parts of

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the state that are very red

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Trump areas.

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It makes New Jersey a

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fascinating state in that

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respect, but Trump will weigh

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heavily over all of this.

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Host: On to another episode of

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this week and outstanding

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lawmaking.

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The election transparency act.

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You cannot make this stuff up.

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>> If you go back, it is really

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a watershed moment that is not

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permeating into the public

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consciousness as much as it

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should.

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When you go back 50 years ago,

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the state felt this real

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pressure to put guardrails on

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what was called the wilderness

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of unregulated campaign-finance.

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The state became a national

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laughingstock for all of the

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corruptions, indictments.

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Herb Stern was the U.S. attorney

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at the time racking up a nonstop

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array of political corruption

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cases.

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The Cahill administration at the

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time was a washing corruption,

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and you had Watergate.

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There was a lot of public

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pressure to put this thing under

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control, and now we spin it 50

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years forward, and it is a

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complete opening up of the gates

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without public pressure, without

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public scrutiny.

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And they know it.

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The legislators know it

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instinctively that this is not

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going to harm them, that this is

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not a kitchen table issue for

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people, and that they also note

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the press corps has diminished,

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and we can squawk all we want,

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but they really just do not

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care.

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Host: The commissioners

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resigned, flipping the governor

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the bird.

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It seems like a perfect time to

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take some dirty money.

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Terrence, your dark money

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contributions from a few years

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back are raised for all time.

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>> We have spent a lot of time

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on what will happen to the

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election law enforcement

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commission, which will be

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stacked with people that Murphy

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will hand select.

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I am a little less worried about

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that, and I will be happy to

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come on here in a couple of

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lease when I am wrong my guess

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is that people he will pick will

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have resumes that are similar to

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the folks who just resigned.

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I do not think he will pick

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people like his wife and his

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kids.

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The biggest problem for me with

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this bill or one of them is the

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fact that it will flood the

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state with more campaign cash,

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because donation limits are

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going to be doubled, in some

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cases tripled.

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And we do not need it.

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The politicians who approved of

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this bill are already sitting on

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untold amounts of cash.

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Some of them are in

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uncompetitive districts.

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They do not spend the money.

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They collect money from donors

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and they just sit on it, and we

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do not need anymore and they

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will be able to raise who knows

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how much from people who will

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want favors return.

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Host: The bill is on the

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governor's desk.

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Do you expect a big signing

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ceremony?

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>> I do not.

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I expect him to sign it next

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week.

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I am curious what he will say,

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because he has hid behind there

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is litigation in this and it is

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not on my desk yet.

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He will probably say something

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like we are opening up

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transparency, and we have done a

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lot to do so.

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Talking about this going to the

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public, this is a difficult

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thing for some reporters.

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I spent hours reading about this

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and wanted to make sure I get it

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right.

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This is an unusual bill that is

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really controversial at that is

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a lot to wrap your head around

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and has many different

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tentacles.

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It being a watershed moment is

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true.

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This is a very weighty week, and

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this bill played a big part of

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that.

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They are also saying that the

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ELI Commissioner had homophobic

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emails, and everything is being

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conflated.

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It is time you want to go read

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our stories.

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I urge the public to dig into

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this to see what is going on.

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Host: It is interesting, because

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the threshold for what

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corruption is has been so

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lowered that folks are like, eh,

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this is what they do all the

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time.

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That is what it feels like

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anyway.

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Moving down the list of stories

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in our upside down state is the

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takeover of the Patterson Police

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Department.

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The biggest thing Matt Plakin

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has done in his short term.

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It is a big test for him.

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>> Absolutely.

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I was disabused of the idea that

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this was part of the redemption

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arc.

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Matt Plakin and 2019 came under

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a lot of scrutiny for his role

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in the Katie Brennan fiasco.

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People have told me in the first

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term he was the driving force

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behind some of the more

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prominent, regressive

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initiatives in the Murphy

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administration and that he has

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always carried the torch for

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this kind of reform.

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Now he has got his opportunity,

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NT is not wasting it.

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And he is not afraid to up and

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the Apple Card.

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Chris Perino, is former Attorney

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General who was a lawyer and

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colleague, told me that whole

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Brennan case and neared -- en

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ured him to public outcry and

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backlash.

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He can handle the heat.

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He has got the scar tissue, and

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that suits him well for all of

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the certain blowback and ruffled

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feathers he will face in taking

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over this complicated and

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troubled department.

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Host: Terrence, reforming

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Patterson Police Department.

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That is a slog for any Attorney

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General, right?

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>> Yes, I think probably what is

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good for the state -- the state

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government and Matt pPlakin is

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him taking over rather than the

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federal government taking over,

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which is what some activists

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want area he is taking it over,

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and it is day one charge.

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One thing happens like the

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recent killing of Mr. Seabrooks,

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then you have people as mad if

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not better than they were

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before.

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Host: Chris Christie making a

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trip to New Hampshire,

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mentioning Donald Trump 20

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times.

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Brent, you wrote about this.

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He sure knows how to make those

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clinics -- clicks, huh?

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>> He knows how to get a point

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across.

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He lost seven years ago, then he

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became a big-time trump advisor.

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He is doing a bit of revisionist

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history or at least trying to

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correct the record.

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He is not pulling -- polling

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very highly, but he is setting

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himself up to be the trump

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attack dog.

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We really cannot do this again.

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Host: We pay a lot of attention

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to this.

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He is at .5 of 1% in the polls.

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>> I did not take much stock in

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the polls.

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Not to sound like one of his

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advisors.

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These polls can change on a

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dime.

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John became --

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That all can change quickly.

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Chris Christie is one of the

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most talented vertical

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performers we have seen, but

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right now to base his campaign

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on I am the one who can get into

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a cage match with Donald Trump

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and survive really does not

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offer much of an alternative or

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rationale of a basis for

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candidacy.

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He had, yes, he did maim Marco

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Rubio in a memorable fashion in

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2016, but going against an

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asymmetric I like Donald Trump

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is another kettle of fish.

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Just because he can get in there

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and fight, this is a different

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combatant who will use -- he

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does not necessarily throw

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punches above the bell.

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He will kick, categorize --

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gouge your eyes.

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I would not take the Marco Rubio

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playbook is a winning one.

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Host: All right, time for our

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only in Jersey moments headlines

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and notes that are

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quintessentially Jersey.

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Brent, do you want to start us

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off?

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>> Baseball is back, which makes

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my life better.

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My daughter turns two years old

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on Monday, and she has gotten

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into the Mets spirit recently

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and has been saying let's go

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Mets.

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My wife put up the banner.

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I know Charlie is a Yankees fan.

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Host: Look at this kid.

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>> Let's go Mets.

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Host: [LAUGHTER]

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>> Indoctrination.

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Host: Terrence, it is going to

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be tough to beat that for

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cuteness.

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Do you got one for us?

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>> I cannot beat it for

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cuteness.

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My Jersey moment is Governor

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Murphy is trying to oust someone

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for cringy emails he has been

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sending about gay people.

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An attorney who works with us

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found a bunch of new emails, and

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in one of them he told a

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colleague that he never thought

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Bruce Springsteen was as good as

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Bob Dylan.

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Which means he is toast.

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Host: Charlie, do you got one

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for us?

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>> I did not win phthisis --

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witness to this.

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Democratic Senator Sam Thompson

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had to be reminded yesterday

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that he was actually a Democrat

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and was goaded into voting for

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or had to be reminded to vote

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the party line on amendments to

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the transparency act.

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He initially voted against it.

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Someone had to walk over and

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remind him, wait a minute, you

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are with this team now.

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I guess when he flipped to the

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party, I guess they did not do a

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total ideological loyalty test

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before they accepted him into

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the party.

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Host: Old habits die hard.

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Mine comes from Camden where a

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women's history month

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celebration it went off the

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rails.

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At the mayor and the Council

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were honoring an activist for

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her work, but Ms. Neil wasn't

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having it, calling out officials

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for endorsing a former

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assemblyman.

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He is a form assent women

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because you may remember Barclay

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resigned his assembly seat after

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it was revealed that he punched

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his girlfriend in the face and

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broke her nose.

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City leaders seem to have

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forgotten that, but Neil did

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not.

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>> [INDISCERNIBLE]

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Host: [LAUGHTER]

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and the moral of the story is

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either picked better candidates

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to endorse or rescreen your

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awards recipients better.

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I don't know.

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That is roundtable for the week.

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Charles, Terrence, Brent, good

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to see you.

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I am David Cruz.

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We are off next week for Easter.

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Thanks for watching.

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