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01:02.395 --> 01:03.963 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Hey, everybody. 01:03.963 --> 01:07.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is Reporters Roundtable. 01:07.300 --> 01:07.667 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am David Cruz. 01:07.667 --> 01:10.437 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Our panel today is ripe with 01:10.437 --> 01:10.737 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% curmudgeons. 01:10.737 --> 01:12.972 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mr. Johnson is a reporter. 01:12.972 --> 01:16.576 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Charlie Stiles is a political 01:16.576 --> 01:18.578 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reporter. 01:18.578 --> 01:19.979 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Terrance McDonald is the editor 01:19.979 --> 01:20.447 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of New Jersey monitor. 01:20.447 --> 01:22.682 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will get to the panel in just 01:22.682 --> 01:25.652 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a few minutes, we begin today by 01:25.652 --> 01:26.152 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% celebrating filing day. 01:26.152 --> 01:28.555 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Hundreds of candidates filing to 01:28.555 --> 01:30.557 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% run this week. 01:30.557 --> 01:31.991 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% All 80 assembly seats up, 40 01:31.991 --> 01:34.627 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% seats in the Senate, plus County 01:34.627 --> 01:34.994 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and local races. 01:34.994 --> 01:40.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Michael rasmussen is the founder 01:40.733 --> 01:43.002 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of several filing date drinking 01:43.002 --> 01:43.303 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% games. 01:43.303 --> 01:45.171 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He joins us now. 01:45.171 --> 01:47.173 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Welcome. 01:47.173 --> 01:49.576 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Thanks, David. 01:49.576 --> 01:55.014 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Let's talk about the 800 01:55.014 --> 01:55.615 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% pound Former President in the 01:55.615 --> 01:55.815 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% room. 01:55.815 --> 01:58.651 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Your thoughts on what the 01:58.651 --> 01:59.285 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% indictment of Donald Trump could 01:59.285 --> 01:59.486 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% mean? 01:59.486 --> 02:03.990 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> No one has even seen the 02:03.990 --> 02:06.025 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% indictment yet, so that will be 02:06.025 --> 02:06.759 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% important in terms of figuring 02:06.759 --> 02:07.193 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% out what it means. 02:07.193 --> 02:10.763 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% One thing that we do know is 02:10.763 --> 02:13.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that in New Jersey, particularly 02:13.433 --> 02:14.434 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters have not had much use for 02:14.434 --> 02:16.002 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Donald Trump ever. 02:16.002 --> 02:18.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This is not likely to give them 02:18.505 --> 02:19.305 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% any at this late stage in the 02:19.305 --> 02:19.506 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% game. 02:19.506 --> 02:21.641 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think it could energize his 02:21.641 --> 02:22.542 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% supporters. 02:22.542 --> 02:26.312 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They are going to keep pressure 02:26.312 --> 02:27.380 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on the rest of the Republican 02:27.380 --> 02:29.716 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% party its elected officials to 02:29.716 --> 02:31.151 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% defend Donald Trump every day, 02:31.151 --> 02:31.851 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and I do not think that is a 02:31.851 --> 02:32.385 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% good thing for the party. 02:32.385 --> 02:36.523 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Brett, do you want to jump 02:36.523 --> 02:36.789 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in here? 02:36.789 --> 02:40.927 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> What might this do to 02:40.927 --> 02:41.995 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans running in those 02:41.995 --> 02:42.462 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% races over Democrats? 02:42.462 --> 02:47.367 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> We get legislative elections 02:47.367 --> 02:50.103 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in New Jersey that often try to 02:50.103 --> 02:51.604 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% turn on other issues, send 02:51.604 --> 02:52.071 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Washington a message. 02:52.071 --> 02:54.741 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What does the state legislature 02:54.741 --> 02:55.141 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% had do with that? 02:55.141 --> 02:57.343 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It does not stop there 02:57.343 --> 02:57.844 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidates from trying. 02:57.844 --> 03:01.080 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am sure republican candidates 03:01.080 --> 03:02.048 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% will try to fire up their base 03:02.048 --> 03:06.352 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% with trump supporters with red 03:06.352 --> 03:08.521 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% meat about this witchhunt that 03:08.521 --> 03:10.390 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Donald Trump calls it, but there 03:10.390 --> 03:14.060 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is not a good, strong nexus 03:14.060 --> 03:15.895 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% between these charges or the 03:15.895 --> 03:18.097 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Democratic Party or Joe Biden, 03:18.097 --> 03:19.432 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for that matter. 03:19.432 --> 03:21.834 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Or certainly Democrats in New 03:21.834 --> 03:22.068 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey. 03:22.068 --> 03:25.838 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Charlie, you had one? 03:25.838 --> 03:32.378 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Yes, how difficult -- are at 03:32.378 --> 03:33.746 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Republicans back into the 03:33.746 --> 03:35.081 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% same old a paradox here of 03:35.081 --> 03:37.650 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% firing of the base, as you said, 03:37.650 --> 03:43.189 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and having that base vote with 03:43.189 --> 03:45.158 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% everything they said in the 03:45.158 --> 03:46.025 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% primary become an albatross in 03:46.025 --> 03:46.492 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the general election? 03:46.492 --> 03:49.862 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It just seems like it will be a 03:49.862 --> 03:51.397 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% repeat of what we saw in 2018 03:51.397 --> 03:52.999 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and 2020? 03:52.999 --> 03:56.135 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I think you are right. 03:56.135 --> 03:58.605 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We have to remember Donald Trump 03:58.605 --> 04:00.006 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% has never been a general 04:00.006 --> 04:00.406 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election draw. 04:00.406 --> 04:04.210 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He never won the popular vote. 04:04.210 --> 04:05.311 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Key lost congressional races for 04:05.311 --> 04:08.982 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% his party several times, so as a 04:08.982 --> 04:09.616 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% general election prospect, he is 04:09.616 --> 04:10.083 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not a way to go. 04:10.083 --> 04:12.919 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But this is certainly 04:12.919 --> 04:14.754 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% strengthening his hand in the 04:14.754 --> 04:15.188 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democratic primary. 04:15.188 --> 04:18.157 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Early days, we have not seen the 04:18.157 --> 04:21.995 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% indictment, but it seems to be 04:21.995 --> 04:23.763 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% rallying around him in the 04:23.763 --> 04:24.631 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% party, and that is probably not 04:24.631 --> 04:26.132 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% good news for the party when it 04:26.132 --> 04:26.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% comes to the general election. 04:26.766 --> 04:29.702 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: We will pick this up with 04:29.702 --> 04:30.770 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the panel in a few minutes. 04:30.770 --> 04:33.840 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let's move on to filing day, the 04:33.840 --> 04:35.141 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% biggest turnover already in the 04:35.141 --> 04:37.243 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% legislature I can remember, 04:37.243 --> 04:37.443 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right? 04:37.443 --> 04:41.381 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> 16 years, and even that takes 04:41.381 --> 04:41.914 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% some remembering. 04:41.914 --> 04:45.852 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The year when Wayne Bryant 04:45.852 --> 04:46.753 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% retired, he took a bunch with 04:46.753 --> 04:47.120 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% them apparently. 04:47.120 --> 04:49.656 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We had a very large freshman 04:49.656 --> 04:50.490 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% class in 2008. 04:50.490 --> 04:52.358 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This will be the largest one 04:52.358 --> 04:52.659 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% since then. 04:52.659 --> 04:56.062 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: For some of these people, 04:56.062 --> 04:56.462 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it was just time. 04:56.462 --> 05:01.234 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Rob Caputo is in his 80's. 05:01.234 --> 05:04.971 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But some of it is redistricting. 05:04.971 --> 05:08.708 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Top of that list is this kind of 05:08.708 --> 05:09.275 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% pending heavyweight matchup 05:09.275 --> 05:12.312 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% between former Governor and 05:12.312 --> 05:14.213 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% current Senator date Cody and 05:14.213 --> 05:17.150 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Senator Gill. 05:17.150 --> 05:19.585 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Who is at edge? 05:19.585 --> 05:26.092 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> They both have slayed the 05:26.092 --> 05:27.126 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% county line in the past. 05:27.126 --> 05:28.561 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They are both real powers in 05:28.561 --> 05:28.928 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% their own right. 05:28.928 --> 05:32.832 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The question is is Senator Gill 05:32.832 --> 05:34.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in her prime? 05:34.400 --> 05:39.105 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% She she at her peak in terms of 05:39.105 --> 05:39.706 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% popularity with the party and 05:39.706 --> 05:41.541 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% her constituents? 05:41.541 --> 05:42.375 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% The reason that we say that is 05:42.375 --> 05:50.750 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% because date Cody -- Dick Cody 05:50.750 --> 05:52.285 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will have the line. 05:52.285 --> 05:53.186 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He is probably one of the most 05:53.186 --> 05:55.788 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% well-known legislatures -- 05:55.788 --> 05:57.390 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% legislators in New Jersey. 05:57.390 --> 06:00.760 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is there anything to suggest she 06:00.760 --> 06:01.494 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% will bring enough firepower to 06:01.494 --> 06:01.828 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% overcome that? 06:01.828 --> 06:04.697 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Host: Either the district is a 06:04.697 --> 06:07.834 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% little different in terms of 06:07.834 --> 06:08.334 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% favor of Cody because of 06:08.334 --> 06:09.736 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% redistricting, right? 06:09.736 --> 06:12.872 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> It does, it brings in some 06:12.872 --> 06:17.610 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% towns where there is a little 06:17.610 --> 06:19.245 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% bit of -- and there, and it 06:19.245 --> 06:20.313 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% brings in towns that are not 06:20.313 --> 06:23.082 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% playing to the Democratic core 06:23.082 --> 06:25.251 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of Essex County that Gill has 06:25.251 --> 06:25.752 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% represented in the past. 06:25.752 --> 06:29.756 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: What other primaries of 06:29.756 --> 06:30.022 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% interest. 06:30.022 --> 06:30.723 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% You talked about the third and 06:30.723 --> 06:31.023 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the fourth? 06:31.023 --> 06:34.494 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> The only other show in town 06:34.494 --> 06:36.896 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for Democrats is some 06:36.896 --> 06:39.565 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% progressives are running against 06:39.565 --> 06:42.268 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Angela Knight and the 31st 06:42.268 --> 06:42.935 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% district, but other than those 06:42.935 --> 06:48.341 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% does -- those two races. 06:48.341 --> 06:52.311 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% In the deep South will find out 06:52.311 --> 06:55.848 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% whether Senator Edgar -- Ed 06:55.848 --> 06:58.418 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Gurr, lightning can strike for 06:58.418 --> 06:58.584 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% him. 06:58.584 --> 07:00.787 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Or will Sawyer be able to knock 07:00.787 --> 07:01.888 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% him out. 07:01.888 --> 07:05.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Next door to that in the fourth 07:05.525 --> 07:06.759 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% district, which Republican will 07:06.759 --> 07:10.496 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% win denomination to replace 07:10.496 --> 07:12.432 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Senator Fred Madden. 07:12.432 --> 07:15.435 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We have also got some fun in 07:15.435 --> 07:19.739 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% northwest New Jersey in Morris 07:19.739 --> 07:20.673 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and Sussex and parts of Warren 07:20.673 --> 07:20.907 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% County. 07:20.907 --> 07:25.378 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Host: That is to replace Steve 07:25.378 --> 07:30.349 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Albert Ho -- oberho. 07:30.349 --> 07:33.986 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Exactly. 07:33.986 --> 07:35.621 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% What that race is settled is a 07:35.621 --> 07:36.489 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% very hotly contested race for 07:36.489 --> 07:37.156 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the two assembly seats. 07:37.156 --> 07:40.593 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We have got Sussex Commissioner 07:40.593 --> 07:42.361 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% versus a Warren Commission her. 07:42.361 --> 07:47.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Chester Mayor versus Board of 07:47.433 --> 07:48.367 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Fed president Lafayette. 07:48.367 --> 07:50.837 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This will be two well-developed 07:50.837 --> 07:51.404 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% teams, and it will be hotly 07:51.404 --> 07:51.671 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% contested. 07:51.671 --> 07:55.374 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will see what happens. 07:55.374 --> 07:56.442 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There is another one in Morris, 07:56.442 --> 07:57.743 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a State Senator is running 07:57.743 --> 07:59.879 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% against the Morris County 07:59.879 --> 08:02.748 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Commissioner, who has run 08:02.748 --> 08:03.416 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% against the line before and won. 08:03.416 --> 08:05.685 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This is nothing new to him. 08:05.685 --> 08:12.792 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is running with Betty Da 08:12.792 --> 08:13.125 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Croix. 08:13.125 --> 08:16.796 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This will be a hot race and hot 08:16.796 --> 08:17.196 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% district as well. 08:17.196 --> 08:19.198 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: We were talking yesterday. 08:19.198 --> 08:24.136 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He said that you had a race that 08:24.136 --> 08:25.238 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% we want to keep a look into in 08:25.238 --> 08:29.675 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the fall with a senator. 08:29.675 --> 08:37.383 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Exactly, the question is can 08:37.383 --> 08:40.620 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% they mount a serious editor -- 08:40.620 --> 08:43.489 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% challenger Senator Gopau. 08:43.489 --> 08:48.060 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The Republicans in the state 08:48.060 --> 08:49.061 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have come after him, and have 08:49.061 --> 08:49.695 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% said he is going to be the top 08:49.695 --> 08:49.962 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% target. 08:49.962 --> 08:53.099 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I do not think that hasn't let 08:53.099 --> 08:55.701 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% up, although he has really waged 08:55.701 --> 08:56.936 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a very strong campaign to drive 08:56.936 --> 08:57.436 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% other side of the race. 08:57.436 --> 08:59.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He did not get the top tier 08:59.505 --> 09:04.510 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% challenge, but this is someone 09:04.510 --> 09:07.780 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% who is new to elected politics 09:07.780 --> 09:09.115 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and will be running hard. 09:09.115 --> 09:11.150 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It will have a well-financed 09:11.150 --> 09:12.051 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% campaign, and we will see what 09:12.051 --> 09:12.518 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% he can make out of it. 09:12.518 --> 09:15.688 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Real quick before I let 09:15.688 --> 09:20.359 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% you go, how much is this mess at 09:20.359 --> 09:20.960 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the elections law enforcement 09:20.960 --> 09:21.260 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% commission. 09:21.260 --> 09:23.996 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% How much does that potentially 09:23.996 --> 09:24.597 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% play into the primaries if at 09:24.597 --> 09:24.764 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% all? 09:24.764 --> 09:29.001 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Other than the fact that our 09:29.001 --> 09:30.469 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% campaign-finance is going to be 09:30.469 --> 09:34.140 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the wild West, this bill is 09:34.140 --> 09:36.509 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to be a get out of jail 09:36.509 --> 09:37.677 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% free card for so many current 09:37.677 --> 09:38.144 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% complaints out there. 09:38.144 --> 09:41.314 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Other than that, I do not know 09:41.314 --> 09:42.381 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that it is going to be a 09:42.381 --> 09:44.750 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% prominent public issue, though 09:44.750 --> 09:45.217 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it probably should be. 09:45.217 --> 09:47.420 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% These are retired, well 09:47.420 --> 09:50.289 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% respected judges who have 09:50.289 --> 09:52.558 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% resigned in protest en masse. 09:52.558 --> 09:55.361 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We ought to listen to what they 09:55.361 --> 09:55.995 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have to say. 09:55.995 --> 09:59.432 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The fact is money will be looser 09:59.432 --> 10:01.167 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in our campaigns, and that is 10:01.167 --> 10:01.934 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the direct impact it will have 10:01.934 --> 10:02.268 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on the races. 10:02.268 --> 10:04.637 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: It has been a week. 10:04.637 --> 10:08.107 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Thanks for coming on, good to 10:08.107 --> 10:08.441 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% see you again. 10:08.441 --> 10:10.176 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Thanks for having me. 10:10.176 --> 10:15.448 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Brent, Charlie, Terrence, 10:15.448 --> 10:16.682 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% good to see you all. 10:16.682 --> 10:17.316 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let's get the big news out of 10:17.316 --> 10:17.550 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the way. 10:17.550 --> 10:19.552 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The indicted Donald Trump. 10:19.552 --> 10:21.821 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You just read about that this 10:21.821 --> 10:23.923 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% week, Charles. 10:23.923 --> 10:25.524 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What are your thoughts? 10:25.524 --> 10:28.761 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I think it is like the 10:28.761 --> 10:32.231 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% recurring Freddy Krueger horror 10:32.231 --> 10:32.732 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% story for the New Jersey 10:32.732 --> 10:35.101 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans who have been trying 10:35.101 --> 10:40.673 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to step away and reassert a 10:40.673 --> 10:44.744 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% slightly more centrist 10:44.744 --> 10:45.578 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% positioning. 10:45.578 --> 10:51.550 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They see the suburbs being lost, 10:51.550 --> 10:52.318 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% even though there was some 10:52.318 --> 10:52.652 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% gaining back. 10:52.652 --> 10:55.855 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The long-term fear is that they 10:55.855 --> 10:57.156 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are going to lose what was their 10:57.156 --> 11:00.359 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% traditional base in areas like 11:00.359 --> 11:04.363 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mars and Somerset and Union 11:04.363 --> 11:06.899 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% County, particularly among women 11:06.899 --> 11:07.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters. 11:07.933 --> 11:12.538 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And here comes Donald Trump, 11:12.538 --> 11:13.439 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% here comes Stormy Daniels, 11:13.439 --> 11:18.678 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Michael Cohen, David Becker into 11:18.678 --> 11:23.049 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% one molted ball of sleaze that 11:23.049 --> 11:24.116 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is just going to roll over the 11:24.116 --> 11:25.551 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republican brand. 11:25.551 --> 11:30.222 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% And it is -- you know, I would 11:30.222 --> 11:30.790 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% think this is a bad day for 11:30.790 --> 11:34.960 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% anybody who is carrying the aura 11:34.960 --> 11:35.294 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on their back. 11:35.294 --> 11:38.631 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Some of the names in 11:38.631 --> 11:44.003 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there, stormy, pecker, this 11:44.003 --> 11:44.570 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% story is writing itself. 11:44.570 --> 11:45.971 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> [LAUGHTER] 11:45.971 --> 11:51.043 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I think things might be more 11:51.043 --> 11:51.577 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% unpredictable than Charlie 11:51.577 --> 11:52.611 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% thinks. 11:52.611 --> 11:55.715 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Or 2021 four months I was 11:55.715 --> 11:57.083 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% getting Donald centric mailers 11:57.083 --> 11:59.418 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because of the Governor 11:59.418 --> 11:59.985 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% oppressiveness race, and did 11:59.985 --> 12:02.722 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% help the governor win 12:02.722 --> 12:03.022 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reelection. 12:03.022 --> 12:05.624 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Some Republicans in parts of the 12:05.624 --> 12:06.325 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% state fell. 12:06.325 --> 12:09.562 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I do not know that it 12:09.562 --> 12:11.964 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% necessarily means disaster for 12:11.964 --> 12:12.565 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans everywhere in the 12:12.565 --> 12:12.765 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% state. 12:12.765 --> 12:16.068 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Host: The conservative wing of 12:16.068 --> 12:17.169 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the New Jersey Republican party 12:17.169 --> 12:19.405 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% had been researching to this 12:19.405 --> 12:19.939 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% point. 12:19.939 --> 12:21.173 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is this good or bad for them? 12:21.173 --> 12:23.142 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I do not know. 12:23.142 --> 12:27.713 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I think the name Trump will be 12:27.713 --> 12:29.115 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on the present throughout the 12:29.115 --> 12:29.749 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% campaign season whether on the 12:29.749 --> 12:32.518 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% tongues of Democrats or 12:32.518 --> 12:32.818 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans. 12:32.818 --> 12:36.055 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans came out in the last 12:36.055 --> 12:37.323 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election, the Congressional 12:37.323 --> 12:38.357 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% midterm election, saying we have 12:38.357 --> 12:39.759 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to get away from Donald Trump 12:39.759 --> 12:41.460 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% because it will hurt our brand 12:41.460 --> 12:42.128 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and hurt us in legislative 12:42.128 --> 12:42.394 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% elections. 12:42.394 --> 12:47.700 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I do not think there will be a 12:47.700 --> 12:48.334 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lot of rejoicing among moderate 12:48.334 --> 12:48.968 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% leaders, but there are parts of 12:48.968 --> 12:51.070 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the state that are very red 12:51.070 --> 12:52.338 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump areas. 12:52.338 --> 12:55.608 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It makes New Jersey a 12:55.608 --> 12:56.709 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fascinating state in that 12:56.709 --> 12:57.309 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% respect, but Trump will weigh 12:57.309 --> 12:59.145 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% heavily over all of this. 12:59.145 --> 13:04.950 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Host: On to another episode of 13:04.950 --> 13:05.985 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this week and outstanding 13:05.985 --> 13:06.252 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lawmaking. 13:06.252 --> 13:09.622 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% The election transparency act. 13:09.622 --> 13:11.724 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% You cannot make this stuff up. 13:11.724 --> 13:16.328 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> If you go back, it is really 13:16.328 --> 13:22.168 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% a watershed moment that is not 13:22.168 --> 13:23.369 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% permeating into the public 13:23.369 --> 13:23.936 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% consciousness as much as it 13:23.936 --> 13:24.170 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% should. 13:24.170 --> 13:28.274 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% When you go back 50 years ago, 13:28.274 --> 13:31.310 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the state felt this real 13:31.310 --> 13:33.846 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% pressure to put guardrails on 13:33.846 --> 13:36.415 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% what was called the wilderness 13:36.415 --> 13:37.049 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of unregulated campaign-finance. 13:37.049 --> 13:39.885 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The state became a national 13:39.885 --> 13:41.787 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% laughingstock for all of the 13:41.787 --> 13:44.390 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% corruptions, indictments. 13:44.390 --> 13:49.195 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Herb Stern was the U.S. attorney 13:49.195 --> 13:53.432 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% at the time racking up a nonstop 13:53.432 --> 13:54.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% array of political corruption 13:54.033 --> 13:54.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% cases. 13:54.233 --> 13:58.137 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The Cahill administration at the 13:58.137 --> 14:02.541 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% time was a washing corruption, 14:02.541 --> 14:03.008 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and you had Watergate. 14:03.008 --> 14:05.277 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There was a lot of public 14:05.277 --> 14:05.911 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% pressure to put this thing under 14:05.911 --> 14:08.347 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% control, and now we spin it 50 14:08.347 --> 14:12.818 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% years forward, and it is a 14:12.818 --> 14:14.787 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% complete opening up of the gates 14:14.787 --> 14:16.822 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% without public pressure, without 14:16.822 --> 14:17.189 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% public scrutiny. 14:17.189 --> 14:17.590 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And they know it. 14:17.590 --> 14:22.328 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The legislators know it 14:22.328 --> 14:22.962 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% instinctively that this is not 14:22.962 --> 14:24.563 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to harm them, that this is 14:24.563 --> 14:28.234 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not a kitchen table issue for 14:28.234 --> 14:31.804 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people, and that they also note 14:31.804 --> 14:34.506 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the press corps has diminished, 14:34.506 --> 14:37.276 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and we can squawk all we want, 14:37.276 --> 14:37.843 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but they really just do not 14:37.843 --> 14:38.043 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% care. 14:38.043 --> 14:41.780 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: The commissioners 14:41.780 --> 14:42.414 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% resigned, flipping the governor 14:42.414 --> 14:42.681 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the bird. 14:42.681 --> 14:45.484 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It seems like a perfect time to 14:45.484 --> 14:46.218 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% take some dirty money. 14:46.218 --> 14:51.390 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Terrence, your dark money 14:51.390 --> 14:52.024 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% contributions from a few years 14:52.024 --> 14:53.092 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% back are raised for all time. 14:53.092 --> 14:56.028 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> We have spent a lot of time 14:56.028 --> 15:00.399 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on what will happen to the 15:00.399 --> 15:00.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election law enforcement 15:00.966 --> 15:02.268 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% commission, which will be 15:02.268 --> 15:03.168 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% stacked with people that Murphy 15:03.168 --> 15:04.136 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will hand select. 15:04.136 --> 15:04.770 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am a little less worried about 15:04.770 --> 15:08.173 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that, and I will be happy to 15:08.173 --> 15:08.908 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% come on here in a couple of 15:08.908 --> 15:10.709 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% lease when I am wrong my guess 15:10.709 --> 15:12.945 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is that people he will pick will 15:12.945 --> 15:15.447 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have resumes that are similar to 15:15.447 --> 15:16.048 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the folks who just resigned. 15:16.048 --> 15:18.751 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I do not think he will pick 15:18.751 --> 15:19.318 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people like his wife and his 15:19.318 --> 15:20.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% kids. 15:20.786 --> 15:25.524 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The biggest problem for me with 15:25.524 --> 15:26.959 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this bill or one of them is the 15:26.959 --> 15:28.594 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fact that it will flood the 15:28.594 --> 15:30.195 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% state with more campaign cash, 15:30.195 --> 15:32.631 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because donation limits are 15:32.631 --> 15:34.867 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to be doubled, in some 15:34.867 --> 15:35.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% cases tripled. 15:35.200 --> 15:36.936 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And we do not need it. 15:36.936 --> 15:40.673 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The politicians who approved of 15:40.673 --> 15:42.341 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this bill are already sitting on 15:42.341 --> 15:42.841 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% untold amounts of cash. 15:42.841 --> 15:46.378 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Some of them are in 15:46.378 --> 15:46.879 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% uncompetitive districts. 15:46.879 --> 15:48.414 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They do not spend the money. 15:48.414 --> 15:51.884 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% They collect money from donors 15:51.884 --> 15:52.518 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and they just sit on it, and we 15:52.518 --> 15:54.887 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% do not need anymore and they 15:54.887 --> 15:56.622 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will be able to raise who knows 15:56.622 --> 15:59.091 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% how much from people who will 15:59.091 --> 15:59.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% want favors return. 15:59.525 --> 16:02.361 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: The bill is on the 16:02.361 --> 16:02.795 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% governor's desk. 16:02.795 --> 16:04.563 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Do you expect a big signing 16:04.563 --> 16:05.397 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ceremony? 16:05.397 --> 16:06.765 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I do not. 16:06.765 --> 16:09.568 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I expect him to sign it next 16:09.568 --> 16:09.768 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% week. 16:09.768 --> 16:12.371 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I am curious what he will say, 16:12.371 --> 16:15.808 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because he has hid behind there 16:15.808 --> 16:18.043 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is litigation in this and it is 16:18.043 --> 16:18.477 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not on my desk yet. 16:18.477 --> 16:21.880 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He will probably say something 16:21.880 --> 16:23.549 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% like we are opening up 16:23.549 --> 16:24.450 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% transparency, and we have done a 16:24.450 --> 16:24.783 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lot to do so. 16:24.783 --> 16:27.619 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Talking about this going to the 16:27.619 --> 16:30.255 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% public, this is a difficult 16:30.255 --> 16:31.557 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% thing for some reporters. 16:31.557 --> 16:35.227 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I spent hours reading about this 16:35.227 --> 16:35.861 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and wanted to make sure I get it 16:35.861 --> 16:36.061 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right. 16:36.061 --> 16:40.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This is an unusual bill that is 16:40.966 --> 16:41.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% really controversial at that is 16:41.633 --> 16:44.670 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% a lot to wrap your head around 16:44.670 --> 16:45.170 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and has many different 16:45.170 --> 16:45.437 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% tentacles. 16:45.437 --> 16:49.341 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It being a watershed moment is 16:49.341 --> 16:49.541 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% true. 16:49.541 --> 16:55.581 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This is a very weighty week, and 16:55.581 --> 16:56.215 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% this bill played a big part of 16:56.215 --> 16:56.448 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that. 16:56.448 --> 16:59.385 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They are also saying that the 16:59.385 --> 17:04.256 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ELI Commissioner had homophobic 17:04.256 --> 17:06.992 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% emails, and everything is being 17:06.992 --> 17:07.259 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conflated. 17:07.259 --> 17:11.597 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It is time you want to go read 17:11.597 --> 17:11.964 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% our stories. 17:11.964 --> 17:13.265 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I urge the public to dig into 17:13.265 --> 17:13.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this to see what is going on. 17:13.866 --> 17:18.303 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: It is interesting, because 17:18.303 --> 17:18.971 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the threshold for what 17:18.971 --> 17:20.039 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% corruption is has been so 17:20.039 --> 17:24.176 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lowered that folks are like, eh, 17:24.176 --> 17:25.677 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this is what they do all the 17:25.677 --> 17:25.878 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% time. 17:25.878 --> 17:26.445 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is what it feels like 17:26.445 --> 17:26.678 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% anyway. 17:26.678 --> 17:29.581 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Moving down the list of stories 17:29.581 --> 17:31.517 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in our upside down state is the 17:31.517 --> 17:32.151 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% takeover of the Patterson Police 17:32.151 --> 17:32.618 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Department. 17:32.618 --> 17:38.857 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The biggest thing Matt Plakin 17:38.857 --> 17:39.425 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% has done in his short term. 17:39.425 --> 17:41.560 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a big test for him. 17:41.560 --> 17:43.662 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Absolutely. 17:43.662 --> 17:47.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I was disabused of the idea that 17:47.766 --> 17:49.334 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this was part of the redemption 17:49.334 --> 17:51.070 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% arc. 17:51.070 --> 17:57.342 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt Plakin and 2019 came under 17:57.342 --> 17:58.710 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% a lot of scrutiny for his role 17:58.710 --> 17:59.978 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in the Katie Brennan fiasco. 17:59.978 --> 18:03.782 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% People have told me in the first 18:03.782 --> 18:06.051 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% term he was the driving force 18:06.051 --> 18:09.221 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% behind some of the more 18:09.221 --> 18:12.057 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% prominent, regressive 18:12.057 --> 18:12.591 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% initiatives in the Murphy 18:12.591 --> 18:13.792 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% administration and that he has 18:13.792 --> 18:15.461 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% always carried the torch for 18:15.461 --> 18:17.096 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this kind of reform. 18:17.096 --> 18:20.299 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Now he has got his opportunity, 18:20.299 --> 18:20.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% NT is not wasting it. 18:20.766 --> 18:25.137 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% And he is not afraid to up and 18:25.137 --> 18:25.504 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Apple Card. 18:25.504 --> 18:29.975 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Chris Perino, is former Attorney 18:29.975 --> 18:32.511 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% General who was a lawyer and 18:32.511 --> 18:35.714 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% colleague, told me that whole 18:35.714 --> 18:40.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Brennan case and neared -- en 18:40.786 --> 18:45.424 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ured him to public outcry and 18:45.424 --> 18:46.992 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% backlash. 18:46.992 --> 18:47.493 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He can handle the heat. 18:47.493 --> 18:51.630 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He has got the scar tissue, and 18:51.630 --> 18:53.699 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% that suits him well for all of 18:53.699 --> 18:55.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the certain blowback and ruffled 18:55.033 --> 18:55.667 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% feathers he will face in taking 18:55.667 --> 18:58.003 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% over this complicated and 18:58.003 --> 18:58.437 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% troubled department. 18:58.437 --> 19:02.941 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Terrence, reforming 19:02.941 --> 19:03.509 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Patterson Police Department. 19:03.509 --> 19:07.212 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is a slog for any Attorney 19:07.212 --> 19:07.579 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% General, right? 19:07.579 --> 19:11.450 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Yes, I think probably what is 19:11.450 --> 19:13.552 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% good for the state -- the state 19:13.552 --> 19:20.058 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% government and Matt pPlakin is 19:20.058 --> 19:21.560 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% him taking over rather than the 19:21.560 --> 19:22.594 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% federal government taking over, 19:22.594 --> 19:23.162 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% which is what some activists 19:23.162 --> 19:25.564 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% want area he is taking it over, 19:25.564 --> 19:27.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and it is day one charge. 19:27.099 --> 19:31.937 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% One thing happens like the 19:31.937 --> 19:37.342 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% recent killing of Mr. Seabrooks, 19:37.342 --> 19:39.178 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% then you have people as mad if 19:39.178 --> 19:39.711 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not better than they were 19:39.711 --> 19:39.945 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% before. 19:39.945 --> 19:43.315 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Chris Christie making a 19:43.315 --> 19:45.384 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% trip to New Hampshire, 19:45.384 --> 19:46.552 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% mentioning Donald Trump 20 19:46.552 --> 19:46.752 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% times. 19:46.752 --> 19:49.254 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Brent, you wrote about this. 19:49.254 --> 19:51.957 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He sure knows how to make those 19:51.957 --> 19:57.029 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% clinics -- clicks, huh? 19:57.029 --> 20:00.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> He knows how to get a point 20:00.766 --> 20:01.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% across. 20:01.133 --> 20:04.636 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He lost seven years ago, then he 20:04.636 --> 20:05.837 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% became a big-time trump advisor. 20:05.837 --> 20:10.642 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is doing a bit of revisionist 20:10.642 --> 20:11.243 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% history or at least trying to 20:11.243 --> 20:11.677 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% correct the record. 20:11.677 --> 20:17.449 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is not pulling -- polling 20:17.449 --> 20:20.285 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% very highly, but he is setting 20:20.285 --> 20:20.852 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% himself up to be the trump 20:20.852 --> 20:21.153 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% attack dog. 20:21.153 --> 20:23.889 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We really cannot do this again. 20:23.889 --> 20:27.826 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: We pay a lot of attention 20:27.826 --> 20:28.060 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to this. 20:28.060 --> 20:35.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is at .5 of 1% in the polls. 20:35.000 --> 20:38.203 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I did not take much stock in 20:38.203 --> 20:42.374 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the polls. 20:42.374 --> 20:45.077 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Not to sound like one of his 20:45.077 --> 20:45.344 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% advisors. 20:45.344 --> 20:50.015 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% These polls can change on a 20:50.015 --> 20:50.215 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% dime. 20:50.215 --> 20:55.454 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% John became -- 20:55.454 --> 21:00.125 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That all can change quickly. 21:00.125 --> 21:03.161 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Chris Christie is one of the 21:03.161 --> 21:04.763 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% most talented vertical 21:04.763 --> 21:08.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% performers we have seen, but 21:08.033 --> 21:09.167 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% right now to base his campaign 21:09.167 --> 21:12.437 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on I am the one who can get into 21:12.437 --> 21:13.071 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% a cage match with Donald Trump 21:13.071 --> 21:14.706 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and survive really does not 21:14.706 --> 21:18.710 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% offer much of an alternative or 21:18.710 --> 21:21.747 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% rationale of a basis for 21:21.747 --> 21:22.014 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidacy. 21:22.014 --> 21:32.057 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He had, yes, he did maim Marco 21:32.057 --> 21:33.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Rubio in a memorable fashion in 21:33.525 --> 21:40.399 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 2016, but going against an 21:40.399 --> 21:41.767 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% asymmetric I like Donald Trump 21:41.767 --> 21:42.301 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is another kettle of fish. 21:42.301 --> 21:45.037 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Just because he can get in there 21:45.037 --> 21:46.204 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and fight, this is a different 21:46.204 --> 21:52.377 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% combatant who will use -- he 21:52.377 --> 21:53.211 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% does not necessarily throw 21:53.211 --> 21:55.113 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% punches above the bell. 21:55.113 --> 21:59.151 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He will kick, categorize -- 21:59.151 --> 22:01.653 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% gouge your eyes. 22:01.653 --> 22:03.622 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I would not take the Marco Rubio 22:03.622 --> 22:04.189 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% playbook is a winning one. 22:04.189 --> 22:07.426 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: All right, time for our 22:07.426 --> 22:09.127 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% only in Jersey moments headlines 22:09.127 --> 22:10.762 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and notes that are 22:10.762 --> 22:11.263 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% quintessentially Jersey. 22:11.263 --> 22:15.200 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Brent, do you want to start us 22:15.200 --> 22:15.367 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% off? 22:15.367 --> 22:18.570 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Baseball is back, which makes 22:18.570 --> 22:19.137 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% my life better. 22:19.137 --> 22:21.907 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% My daughter turns two years old 22:21.907 --> 22:25.177 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on Monday, and she has gotten 22:25.177 --> 22:28.313 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% into the Mets spirit recently 22:28.313 --> 22:28.914 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and has been saying let's go 22:28.914 --> 22:29.114 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mets. 22:29.114 --> 22:31.249 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% My wife put up the banner. 22:31.249 --> 22:34.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I know Charlie is a Yankees fan. 22:34.786 --> 22:37.823 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Look at this kid. 22:37.823 --> 22:43.362 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Let's go Mets. 22:43.362 --> 22:44.830 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: [LAUGHTER] 22:44.830 --> 22:48.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Indoctrination. 22:48.166 --> 22:52.270 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Host: Terrence, it is going to 22:52.270 --> 22:53.138 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% be tough to beat that for 22:53.138 --> 22:55.474 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% cuteness. 22:55.474 --> 22:56.074 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Do you got one for us? 22:56.074 --> 22:58.677 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I cannot beat it for 22:58.677 --> 23:00.912 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% cuteness. 23:00.912 --> 23:04.249 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% My Jersey moment is Governor 23:04.249 --> 23:04.916 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Murphy is trying to oust someone 23:04.916 --> 23:08.420 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for cringy emails he has been 23:08.420 --> 23:08.954 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% sending about gay people. 23:08.954 --> 23:12.958 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% An attorney who works with us 23:12.958 --> 23:15.193 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% found a bunch of new emails, and 23:15.193 --> 23:15.694 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in one of them he told a 23:15.694 --> 23:18.930 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% colleague that he never thought 23:18.930 --> 23:19.564 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Bruce Springsteen was as good as 23:19.564 --> 23:22.801 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Bob Dylan. 23:22.801 --> 23:26.972 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Which means he is toast. 23:26.972 --> 23:30.208 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Charlie, do you got one 23:30.208 --> 23:31.710 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for us? 23:31.710 --> 23:38.717 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I did not win phthisis -- 23:38.717 --> 23:39.117 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% witness to this. 23:39.117 --> 23:43.121 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democratic Senator Sam Thompson 23:43.121 --> 23:45.257 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% had to be reminded yesterday 23:45.257 --> 23:47.759 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that he was actually a Democrat 23:47.759 --> 23:53.698 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and was goaded into voting for 23:53.698 --> 23:54.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% or had to be reminded to vote 23:54.933 --> 23:59.237 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the party line on amendments to 23:59.237 --> 23:59.704 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the transparency act. 23:59.704 --> 24:03.308 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He initially voted against it. 24:03.308 --> 24:06.044 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Someone had to walk over and 24:06.044 --> 24:08.980 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% remind him, wait a minute, you 24:08.980 --> 24:09.481 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are with this team now. 24:09.481 --> 24:11.683 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I guess when he flipped to the 24:11.683 --> 24:15.654 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% party, I guess they did not do a 24:15.654 --> 24:19.658 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% total ideological loyalty test 24:19.658 --> 24:20.459 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% before they accepted him into 24:20.459 --> 24:20.725 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the party. 24:20.725 --> 24:23.662 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Host: Old habits die hard. 24:23.662 --> 24:25.263 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Mine comes from Camden where a 24:25.263 --> 24:29.067 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% women's history month 24:29.067 --> 24:30.135 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% celebration it went off the 24:30.135 --> 24:30.335 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% rails. 24:30.335 --> 24:31.703 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% At the mayor and the Council 24:31.703 --> 24:35.307 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% were honoring an activist for 24:35.307 --> 24:38.577 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% her work, but Ms. Neil wasn't 24:38.577 --> 24:41.213 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% having it, calling out officials 24:41.213 --> 24:43.782 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for endorsing a former 24:43.782 --> 24:46.384 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% assemblyman. 24:46.384 --> 24:47.652 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is a form assent women 24:47.652 --> 24:50.055 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because you may remember Barclay 24:50.055 --> 24:52.591 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% resigned his assembly seat after 24:52.591 --> 24:55.760 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it was revealed that he punched 24:55.760 --> 24:56.428 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% his girlfriend in the face and 24:56.428 --> 24:56.795 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% broke her nose. 24:56.795 --> 25:00.465 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% City leaders seem to have 25:00.465 --> 25:03.969 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% forgotten that, but Neil did 25:03.969 --> 25:04.135 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not. 25:04.135 --> 25:06.605 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> [INDISCERNIBLE] 25:06.605 --> 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