1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:01,133 >> Announcer: MAJOR FUNDING FOR 2 00:00:01,133 --> 00:00:02,600 "REPORTERS ROUNDTABLE" WITH 3 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,200 DAVID CRUZ IS PROVIDED BY NEW 4 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:03,833 JERSEY REALTORS, THE VOICE FOR 5 00:00:03,833 --> 00:00:06,233 REAL ESTATE IN NEW JERSEY. 6 00:00:06,233 --> 00:00:07,800 MORE INFORMATION IS ONLINE AT 7 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,900 NJREALTOR.COM. 8 00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:11,466 RWJBARNABAS HEALTH. 9 00:00:11,466 --> 00:00:14,600 LET'S BE HEALTHY TOGETHER. 10 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,700 AND BY NJM INSURANCE GROUP, 11 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:18,233 SERVING THE INSURANCE NEEDS OF 12 00:00:18,233 --> 00:00:19,833 NEW JERSEY RESIDENTS AND 13 00:00:19,833 --> 00:00:20,433 BUSINESSES FOR MORE THAN 100 14 00:00:20,433 --> 00:00:26,033 YEARS. 15 00:00:26,033 --> 00:00:26,666 PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT IS PROVIDED 16 00:00:26,666 --> 00:00:27,600 BY "NEW JERSEY BUSINESS 17 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,666 MAGAZINE," THE MAGAZINE OF THE 18 00:00:28,666 --> 00:00:30,200 NEW JERSEY BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY 19 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,233 ASSOCIATION, REPORTING TO 20 00:00:31,233 --> 00:00:33,866 EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE 21 00:00:33,866 --> 00:00:37,000 LEADERS IN ALL 21 COUNTIES OF 22 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:44,933 THE GARDEN STATE SINCE 1954. 23 00:00:44,933 --> 00:00:45,500 AND BY BROELK'S NEW JERSEY 24 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:46,133 PLAYBOOK, A TOPICAL NEWSLETTER 25 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:46,766 ON GARDEN STATE POLITICS, ONLINE 26 00:00:46,766 --> 00:00:48,066 AT POLITICO.COM. 27 00:00:48,066 --> 00:01:06,100 ♪ 28 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:06,633 >>> WELCOME TO "REPORTERS 29 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:07,366 ROUNDTABLE," I'M DAVID CRUZ. 30 00:01:07,366 --> 00:01:08,800 HAPPY TO BE BACK WITH YOU, 31 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,800 JOINED BY OUR PANEL OF STATE 32 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,866 JOURNALISTS, KAREN YEE OF WNYC 33 00:01:15,866 --> 00:01:19,933 RADIO, MATT ARCO, THE POLITICS 34 00:01:19,933 --> 00:01:21,633 REPORTER FOR NJ ADVANCED MEDIA 35 00:01:21,633 --> 00:01:23,233 AND OUR OWN CHIEF POLITICAL 36 00:01:23,233 --> 00:01:24,300 CORRESPONDENT, MICHAEL AARON. 37 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:25,800 GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. 38 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,833 WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THEM IN 39 00:01:26,833 --> 00:01:28,233 JUST A FEW MINUTES BUT WE BEGIN 40 00:01:28,233 --> 00:01:29,466 THIS WEEK MARKING A ONE-YEAR 41 00:01:29,466 --> 00:01:31,433 ANNIVERSARY OF THE ATTACK ON THE 42 00:01:31,433 --> 00:01:33,500 U.S. CAPITOL, FINDING OURSELVES 43 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:36,266 ONLY SLIGHTLY LESS DIVIDED THAN 44 00:01:36,266 --> 00:01:38,066 WE WERE THEN, AND THAT'S AN 45 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:39,733 OPTIMIST'S VIEW, I KNOW. 46 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:41,266 NEW JERSEY SURVIVED THE 47 00:01:41,266 --> 00:01:42,466 GOVERNOR'S ELECTION JUST A 48 00:01:42,466 --> 00:01:43,633 COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH LITTLE 49 00:01:43,633 --> 00:01:46,800 ILL EFFECT, BUT THAT DOESN'T 50 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,766 MEAN THAT OUR POLITICS ISN'T 51 00:01:47,766 --> 00:01:50,533 SHOWING SOME SIGNS OF FRAYING. 52 00:01:50,533 --> 00:01:51,766 LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE 53 00:01:51,766 --> 00:01:54,733 WITH OUR "ROUNDTABLE" GUESTS. 54 00:01:54,733 --> 00:02:00,266 REPUBLICAN SENATOR DE 55 00:02:00,266 --> 00:02:01,133 DECLAN OSCANLON. 56 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:01,766 >> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND THE 57 00:02:01,766 --> 00:02:05,100 REST OF THE PANEL. 58 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,300 >> HAVE YOU BEEN REFLECTING MUCH 59 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:10,433 ON JANUARY 6, 2021, WHAT IT 60 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:13,366 MEANT THEN AND HOW MUCH THE 61 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:14,866 SENTIMENT THAT INSPIRED THOSE 62 00:02:14,866 --> 00:02:17,300 ATTACKS ARE STILL AROUND? 63 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:19,866 >> LOOK, IT'S PART OF OUR 64 00:02:19,866 --> 00:02:20,633 HISTORY NOW, RIGHT? 65 00:02:20,633 --> 00:02:22,933 IT'S NEVER GOING AWAY. 66 00:02:22,933 --> 00:02:24,900 THERE ARE VERY FEW THINGS THAT 67 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:26,866 HAPPENED IN OUR LIVES, 68 00:02:26,866 --> 00:02:27,900 SOCIETALLY, THAT WE KNOW ARE 69 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:29,300 GOING TO BE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS 70 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:30,800 GOING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT 50 71 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,000 YEARS. 72 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,566 JANUARY 6th IS ONE OF THOSE 73 00:02:31,566 --> 00:02:33,566 THINGS. 74 00:02:33,566 --> 00:02:34,733 WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. 75 00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:37,900 WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM IT. 76 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:39,500 AND AS THIS COUNTRY ALWAYS HAS, 77 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,566 FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE OURSELVES 78 00:02:42,566 --> 00:02:44,366 BETTER BY VIRTUE OF 79 00:02:44,366 --> 00:02:46,266 UNDERSTANDING THE MISTAKES WE'VE 80 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:46,900 MADE AND THE ISSUES WE FACE. 81 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:50,700 AND I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT. 82 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:52,233 SOME THOUGHTS, I MEAN, WHAT DO 83 00:02:52,233 --> 00:02:54,700 YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO BRING THIS 84 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:57,166 UP WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, WHILE 85 00:02:57,166 --> 00:02:57,666 YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE 86 00:02:57,666 --> 00:02:58,000 DISTRICT? 87 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,500 >> THERE SEEMS TO BE, WHEN I'M 88 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:06,200 CHATTING WITH PEOPLE NOW, AN 89 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,600 INCLINATION TO BEGIN TO BE MORE 90 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,866 REFLECTIVE AND DELIBERATIVE, 91 00:03:08,866 --> 00:03:10,633 RATHER THAN REACTIONARY, AND I'M 92 00:03:10,633 --> 00:03:16,033 HOPING THAT'S THE SEED OF A NEW 93 00:03:16,033 --> 00:03:20,333 PERIOD OF CIVIL DEBATE, IF NOT 94 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:21,400 COMPLETE COOPERATION. 95 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,900 I SEE IT IN THE STATE 96 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:23,200 LEGISLATURE. 97 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,033 I THINK WE SAW THE ELECTIONS 98 00:03:24,033 --> 00:03:26,600 THIS YEAR IN NEW JERSEY HAVE 99 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,066 GIVEN SOME PERSPECTIVE TO MY 100 00:03:28,066 --> 00:03:31,066 FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 101 00:03:31,066 --> 00:03:31,666 AISLE. 102 00:03:31,666 --> 00:03:32,500 MAYBE EMBOLDENED FOLKS ON MY 103 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:33,533 SIDE OF THE AISLE A LITTLE BIT 104 00:03:33,533 --> 00:03:34,666 BUT NOT TO THE POINT WHERE I 105 00:03:34,666 --> 00:03:37,033 THINK IT OFFSETS THE INCLINATION 106 00:03:37,033 --> 00:03:39,066 OF MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE 107 00:03:39,066 --> 00:03:40,833 OF THE AISLE TO BEGIN TO 108 00:03:40,833 --> 00:03:43,233 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO 109 00:03:43,233 --> 00:03:44,400 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE 110 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,366 THINGS WE SAY AND SOME OF THE 111 00:03:45,366 --> 00:03:46,166 THINGS THEY'RE HEARING FROM 112 00:03:46,166 --> 00:03:48,300 THEIR CONSTITUENTS. 113 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:50,933 THEY CAN'T JUST ACT IN A BUBBLE 114 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:51,866 AND IMAGINE THAT THERE WON'T BE 115 00:03:51,866 --> 00:03:54,333 ANY REPERCUSSIONS. 116 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:56,233 THAT'S GOOD. 117 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,033 >> I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ALMOST -- 118 00:03:57,033 --> 00:04:00,366 I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ALMOST 119 00:04:00,366 --> 00:04:03,466 EQUATING OPPOSITION AND WHAT 120 00:04:03,466 --> 00:04:04,500 HAPPENED AT THE U.S. CAPITOL. 121 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,466 I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, 122 00:04:07,466 --> 00:04:08,366 HEY, I VOTED FOR TRUMP. 123 00:04:08,366 --> 00:04:09,733 IT'S QUITE ANOTHER TO, YOU KNOW, 124 00:04:09,733 --> 00:04:10,833 TEAR GAS A COP. 125 00:04:10,833 --> 00:04:14,200 RIGHT? 126 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,000 >> LOOK, I DON'T FORGIVE THEM. 127 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,366 I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO 128 00:04:17,366 --> 00:04:18,166 SPEAK OUT WHILE IT WAS 129 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:18,633 HAPPENING, BY THE WAY. 130 00:04:18,633 --> 00:04:21,000 IT WAS DISGUSTING. 131 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,266 AND IT JUST CAN'T HAPPEN. 132 00:04:22,266 --> 00:04:23,966 AND LOOK, I THINK WHAT WE'VE 133 00:04:23,966 --> 00:04:27,500 SEEN IN THE AFTERMATH, WHATEVER 134 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:30,233 CRESCENDO OF EM BOLDEDNESS 135 00:04:30,233 --> 00:04:32,700 CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN OUR SOCIETY 136 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:33,766 HAD LED TO JANUARY 6th, THAT'S 137 00:04:33,766 --> 00:04:36,066 NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN ANY 138 00:04:36,066 --> 00:04:36,366 TIME SOON. 139 00:04:36,366 --> 00:04:37,566 WE'VE SEEN THE PROSECUTIONS. 140 00:04:37,566 --> 00:04:40,566 WE'VE SEEN SOME LEVEL OF 141 00:04:40,566 --> 00:04:41,200 SIGNIFICANT, SOBER ASSESSMENT 142 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,000 ABOUT IT. 143 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,466 SO I'M NOT FEARFUL THAT WE'RE 144 00:04:43,466 --> 00:04:45,800 GOING TO SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT 145 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,433 HAPPEN AGAIN, HOPEFULLY IN OUR 146 00:04:47,433 --> 00:04:47,700 LIFETIMES. 147 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:48,866 SO, I THINK THE LESSONS WERE 148 00:04:48,866 --> 00:04:49,200 LEARNED. 149 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,166 NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND 150 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:54,666 SEE HOW WE CAN TURN THOSE 151 00:04:54,666 --> 00:04:56,433 LESSONS INTO SOME PRODUCTIVE 152 00:04:56,433 --> 00:04:57,600 ADVANCEMENT IN OUR DEBATE AND 153 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,566 OUR DELIBERATION. 154 00:04:59,566 --> 00:05:00,933 WE CAN'T STAY THIS POLARIZED 155 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:03,500 FOREVER. 156 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,866 YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE WANT TO 157 00:05:05,866 --> 00:05:08,600 ASSUME THAT FOREVER IS A FINITE 158 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,566 EXISTENCE OF OUR COUNTRY, WHICH 159 00:05:09,566 --> 00:05:16,433 I'M NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT. 160 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:17,666 SO, I'M NOT WORRIED THAT WE'RE 161 00:05:17,666 --> 00:05:21,166 GOING TO SEE A SERIES OF JANUARY 162 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:21,400 6th. 163 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,533 NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 164 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:24,166 SO FOR ME, LET'S MOVE ON, FIGURE 165 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:26,666 OUT HOW WE CAN BE PRODUCTIVE AND 166 00:05:26,666 --> 00:05:27,166 WORK TOGETHER. 167 00:05:27,166 --> 00:05:28,333 >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT 168 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:30,033 THIS GOVERNOR'S RACE, CLOSER 169 00:05:30,033 --> 00:05:32,033 THAN ANYONE EXPECTED. 170 00:05:32,033 --> 00:05:33,966 DID THE DEMOCRATS JUST STAY 171 00:05:33,966 --> 00:05:35,966 HOME, OR ARE REPUBLICANS, AS YOU 172 00:05:35,966 --> 00:05:37,033 SUGGESTED, RESURGENT IN NEW 173 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:40,300 JERSEY? 174 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:41,200 >> I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF 175 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,833 THE TWO, BUT YOU CAN'T DENY THAT 176 00:05:46,833 --> 00:05:50,200 THERE'S A SEGMENT OF THE 177 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,566 REPUBLICAN OR THE EVEN SLIGHTLY 178 00:05:52,566 --> 00:05:53,966 REPUBLICAN-LEANING MODERATES OUT 179 00:05:53,966 --> 00:05:55,133 THERE WHO ORDINARILY WOULDN'T 180 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:57,933 COME OUT FOR A GOVERNOR'S RACE. 181 00:05:57,933 --> 00:05:59,233 A LOT OF THESE FOLKS, I BET YOU, 182 00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:03,033 ONCE WE DO THE POSTMORTEM AND 183 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:05,033 SEE HOW MANY FORMALLY ONE OF 184 00:06:05,033 --> 00:06:06,200 FOUR VOTERS, PEOPLE THAT WOULD 185 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,166 ONLY VOTE IN A PRESIDENTIAL 186 00:06:08,166 --> 00:06:09,766 RACE, FOR INSTANCE, CAME OUT. 187 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:10,766 HOW LARGE WAS THE INCREASE IN 188 00:06:10,766 --> 00:06:12,433 THE TURNOUT OF THOSE PEOPLE? 189 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:13,166 I BET IT'S SIGNIFICANT. 190 00:06:13,166 --> 00:06:15,100 SO I THINK IT IS A RESURGENCE, 191 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:16,700 NOT JUST OF REPUBLICANS BUT OF 192 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:19,433 PEOPLE BECOMING MORE AWARE OF 193 00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:20,933 HOW THEIR GOVERNMENT IMPACTS 194 00:06:20,933 --> 00:06:23,800 THEIR LIVES, AND CERTAINLY THE 195 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,400 PANDEMIC HAS FOCUSED A LOT OF 196 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,700 PEOPLE ON THAT. 197 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:28,866 >> THINKING ABOUT THE ASSEMBLY 198 00:06:28,866 --> 00:06:31,400 MEMBERS WHO MADE A SCENE AT THE 199 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,600 CHAMBER DOORS A COUPLE MONTHS 200 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,566 AGO OR A FEW WEEKS AGO, I'M 201 00:06:36,566 --> 00:06:38,933 WONDERING IF THEY REALLY 202 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:40,233 REPRESENT THE PARTY IN NEW 203 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:42,766 JERSEY AND WHETHER THAT CONFIRMS 204 00:06:42,766 --> 00:06:43,433 THAT THE REPUBLICANS IN NEW 205 00:06:43,433 --> 00:06:46,400 JERSEY ARE THE PARTY OF TRUMP? 206 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,633 >> NO. 207 00:06:48,633 --> 00:06:50,700 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. 208 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:54,300 WE CERTAINLY HAVE A SIZABLE 209 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,466 PORTION OF NEW JERSEY, NOT JUST 210 00:06:56,466 --> 00:06:56,766 REPUBLICANS. 211 00:06:56,766 --> 00:06:58,466 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I TALK 212 00:06:58,466 --> 00:07:02,233 TO WHO ARE DEMOCRATS WHO SAY 213 00:07:02,233 --> 00:07:05,300 THAT TRUMP IS SPEAKING TO THEM 214 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,566 IS SIGNIFICANT. 215 00:07:06,566 --> 00:07:08,066 BUT WE HAVE A -- NEW JERSEY HAS 216 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:10,133 ALWAYS HAD A WIDE SWATH, AND 217 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:11,233 CERTAINLY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 218 00:07:11,233 --> 00:07:16,200 WITHIN NEW JERSEY HAS HAD A WIDE 219 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,566 SWATH OF BROAD DEPTH OF 220 00:07:18,566 --> 00:07:20,033 DIFFERING PHILOSOPHIES. 221 00:07:20,033 --> 00:07:23,833 OR, YOU KNOW, WE RUN FROM ARCH 222 00:07:23,833 --> 00:07:24,733 CONSERVATIVES TO EXTREME 223 00:07:24,733 --> 00:07:27,833 MODERATES, IF I CAN -- I CAN BE 224 00:07:27,833 --> 00:07:28,433 CONTRADICTORY, BUT THE FOLKS 225 00:07:28,433 --> 00:07:29,233 THAT ARE DECIDEDLY IN THE 226 00:07:29,233 --> 00:07:33,133 MIDDLE. 227 00:07:33,133 --> 00:07:34,933 AND THE PARTY STILL APPEALS TO 228 00:07:34,933 --> 00:07:37,266 THOSE FOLKS, BOTH, TO THE WHOLE 229 00:07:37,266 --> 00:07:38,766 SPECTRUM, ACTUALLY, AND YOU HAVE 230 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:41,166 TO WITH NEW JERSEY BECAUSE 231 00:07:41,166 --> 00:07:42,266 REPUBLICANS CAN'T WIN WITHOUT 232 00:07:42,266 --> 00:07:43,266 ALL THOSE COMPONENTS. 233 00:07:43,266 --> 00:07:43,900 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SAY, WE 234 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:45,733 NEED TO REJECT THE TRUMP WING. 235 00:07:45,733 --> 00:07:46,566 THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE TRUMP 236 00:07:46,566 --> 00:07:47,533 WING THAT SAY, WE NEED TO REJECT 237 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:50,266 THE MODERATES. 238 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:50,800 WELL, THEY'RE BOTH WRONG, 239 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,466 BECAUSE REPUBLICANS DON'T WIN IN 240 00:07:51,466 --> 00:07:52,100 NEW JERSEY BY ANY MORE THAN A 241 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,300 FEW POINTS, SO YOU NEED 242 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:54,233 EVERYBODY. 243 00:07:54,233 --> 00:07:55,733 AND WE NEED TO ACCEPT THAT. 244 00:07:55,733 --> 00:07:57,333 >> SO, YOU GOT THE STATE OF THE 245 00:07:57,333 --> 00:07:59,766 STATE SPEECH COMING UP NEXT 246 00:07:59,766 --> 00:08:00,000 WEEK. 247 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,533 I GUESS YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS 248 00:08:01,533 --> 00:08:03,066 WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S LIKELY TO 249 00:08:03,066 --> 00:08:03,900 TALK ABOUT. 250 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:06,966 YOU WANT TO TAKE 15, 20 SECONDS 251 00:08:06,966 --> 00:08:09,266 THAT I HAVE TO GIVE A PREEMPTORY 252 00:08:09,266 --> 00:08:12,300 RESPONSE? 253 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:16,533 >> LOOK, I APPRECIATE RIGHT NOW 254 00:08:16,533 --> 00:08:21,233 SOME OF THE GOVERNOR'S DIFFERENT 255 00:08:21,233 --> 00:08:23,800 TRACK, REALIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, 256 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,300 HE IS NOT COME BACK, AS MANY 257 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:28,100 PEOPLE PREDICTED, AND TRIED TO 258 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:30,400 INFLICT MASSIVE LOCKDOWNS, 259 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:30,666 ET CETERA. 260 00:08:30,666 --> 00:08:33,900 I THINK IT'S OVERREACH, HIS 261 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:36,000 REQUEST FOR A 90-DAY EXTENSION 262 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,466 OF ALL OF HIS -- OR MANY OF HIS 263 00:08:38,466 --> 00:08:39,266 EOs, WHICH I DON'T THINK THE 264 00:08:39,266 --> 00:08:39,966 LEGISLATURE IS INCLINED TO GIVE 265 00:08:39,966 --> 00:08:43,233 ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AISLE. 266 00:08:43,233 --> 00:08:45,500 LOOK, THE GOVERNOR NEEDS TO 267 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:47,200 PERMIT THE LEGISLATURE TO BE THE 268 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,833 CO-EQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT 269 00:08:47,833 --> 00:08:49,500 THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND 270 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:50,200 WE'LL HAVE BETTER GOVERNMENT IN 271 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,000 NEW JERSEY FOR IT. 272 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,866 RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE 273 00:08:53,866 --> 00:08:56,566 GOVERNOR SPEAKING FROM ON HIGH 274 00:08:56,566 --> 00:08:59,800 FROM HIS SILO. 275 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,400 SO, WHATEVER HIS SPEECH IS, AND 276 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,733 NOW, I GUESS, IT'S GOING TO BE 277 00:09:02,733 --> 00:09:04,933 ZOOMED AND RECORDED, SO I'M NOT 278 00:09:04,933 --> 00:09:05,733 SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING 279 00:09:05,733 --> 00:09:06,533 TO LISTEN TO IT. 280 00:09:06,533 --> 00:09:08,433 WE ALL WILL, BUT I'M NOT SURE 281 00:09:08,433 --> 00:09:09,000 HOW MANY FOLKS OUTSIDE THAT 282 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,466 REALM. 283 00:09:11,466 --> 00:09:15,666 BUT THE LEGISLATURE IS RESURGENT 284 00:09:15,666 --> 00:09:16,900 NOW, AND THE SMARTER, MORE 285 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:18,833 MODERATE VOICES ON BOTH SIDES OF 286 00:09:18,833 --> 00:09:20,366 THE AISLE ARE RESURGENT, AND I 287 00:09:20,366 --> 00:09:21,000 THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD 288 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:21,566 THING FOR NEW JERSEY GOING 289 00:09:21,566 --> 00:09:24,566 FORWARD. 290 00:09:24,566 --> 00:09:25,733 >> ALL RIGHT, FOLKS WILL BE ABLE 291 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:28,066 TO SEE THAT SPEECH, BY THE WAY, 292 00:09:28,066 --> 00:09:31,266 AS THE FILE GETS UNFURLED 293 00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:35,466 TUESDAY AT 5:00 ON NJ PBS. 294 00:09:35,466 --> 00:09:36,666 THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO 295 00:09:36,666 --> 00:09:36,933 PLUG THAT. 296 00:09:36,933 --> 00:09:46,833 SENATOR DECLAN O'SCAN ALRLON, G 297 00:09:46,833 --> 00:09:47,600 TO SEE YOU. 298 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,966 PANEL, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL 299 00:09:48,966 --> 00:09:49,366 AGAIN. 300 00:09:49,366 --> 00:09:50,400 LET'S START WITH THE STATE OF 301 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,533 THE STATE. 302 00:09:51,533 --> 00:09:53,666 MICHAEL AARON, THIS IS A 303 00:09:53,666 --> 00:09:54,966 GOVERNOR WHO SURVIVED A TOUGH 304 00:09:54,966 --> 00:09:58,300 ELECTION IN AN OFF YEAR. 305 00:09:58,300 --> 00:09:59,433 WHAT IS GOVERNOR MURPHY'S STATUS 306 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:00,300 AS HE HEADS INTO A SECOND TERM? 307 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:04,200 HOW'S HE DOING? 308 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,900 >> HE'S DOING ALL RIGHT. 309 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:09,000 HE'S UPRIGHT. 310 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,766 HE'S REBOUNDING FROM A 311 00:10:14,766 --> 00:10:15,633 CHASTENING ELECTION. 312 00:10:15,633 --> 00:10:17,166 I THINK WE CAN SEE HIM ABSORBS 313 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:20,900 SOME OF THE LESSONS OF THE 314 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:24,866 ELECTION WHEN HE DOES HANDS-OFF 315 00:10:24,866 --> 00:10:28,766 ON THE COVID POLICY IN TERMS OF 316 00:10:28,766 --> 00:10:29,433 WHETHER KIDS SHOULD GO BACK TO 317 00:10:29,433 --> 00:10:31,000 SCHOOL OR NOT. 318 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,433 PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT DONALD TRUMP 319 00:10:34,433 --> 00:10:38,066 WAS KICKING THE BALL DOWN THE 320 00:10:38,066 --> 00:10:39,566 ROAD WHEN HE SAID THIS -- THE 321 00:10:39,566 --> 00:10:40,666 STATE SHOULD MAKE ALL THESE 322 00:10:40,666 --> 00:10:42,500 DECISIONS, THIS IS NOT FOR THE 323 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:43,900 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND NOW 324 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:45,366 MURPHY IS SAYING, THIS IS -- THE 325 00:10:45,366 --> 00:10:46,800 LOCAL DISTRICTS SHOULD MAKE THE 326 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,566 MAIN DECISION HERE, NOT TRENTON. 327 00:10:52,566 --> 00:10:53,666 THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE 328 00:10:53,666 --> 00:10:58,800 FOR MURPHY, AND I THINK IT'S 329 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,500 SOMETHING THAT COMES RIGHT OUT 330 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:00,266 OF THE ELECTION. 331 00:11:00,266 --> 00:11:03,433 I ALSO THINK WE'RE HEARING HIM 332 00:11:03,433 --> 00:11:04,366 TALK MORE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY 333 00:11:04,366 --> 00:11:04,733 THESE DAYS. 334 00:11:04,733 --> 00:11:06,700 THAT'S BEEN A REPUBLICAN TALKING 335 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:10,166 POINT FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. 336 00:11:10,166 --> 00:11:12,066 I CAN'T IMAGINE DOING AN 337 00:11:12,066 --> 00:11:13,500 INTERVIEW WITH TOM KEAN JR. 338 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:17,200 WHERE HE DIDN'T BRING UP MAKING 339 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,000 NEW JERSEY MORE AFFORDABLE. 340 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,066 NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, MURPHY'S 341 00:11:19,066 --> 00:11:20,800 TALKING ABOUT MAKING NEW JERSEY 342 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,400 MORE AFFORDABLE. 343 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,900 I THINK THAT'S A RESULT OF THE 344 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:26,200 ELECTION, AND I THINK WE'RE 345 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,200 GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE 346 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,533 OF THAT ON TUESDAY. 347 00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:34,600 >> ALL RIGHT, MATT, I'M SURE 348 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,200 WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE 349 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,000 MURPHY FOR PRESIDENT COLUMNS. 350 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,700 HAS HE MADE A CASE YET, AND/OR 351 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,400 WILL HE ATTEMPT TO MAKE A CASE 352 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,166 IN THE SECOND TERM? 353 00:11:45,166 --> 00:11:46,866 >> I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT 354 00:11:46,866 --> 00:11:50,933 THOSE RUMORS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE 355 00:11:50,933 --> 00:11:51,233 FOR A WHILE. 356 00:11:51,233 --> 00:11:52,233 THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. 357 00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:52,733 SPOILER ALERT. 358 00:11:52,733 --> 00:11:56,800 I CAN SAY THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS 359 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,766 RECENTLY TOLD ME AND MY 360 00:11:58,766 --> 00:11:59,600 COLLEAGUE DURING AN INTERVIEW 361 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,800 THAT HE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT 362 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:01,666 RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. 363 00:12:01,666 --> 00:12:03,866 I PRESSED HIM ON THIS MULTIPLE 364 00:12:03,866 --> 00:12:05,166 TIMES, AND HE INSISTS THAT HE'S 365 00:12:05,166 --> 00:12:08,300 NOT AND HE'LL BE HERE FOR FOUR 366 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:11,100 YEARS, BUT WHAT WILL BE MORE 367 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:12,900 TELLING IS, IN A YEAR FROM NOW, 368 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:14,533 TWO YEARS FROM NOW, DO THESE, 369 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:17,900 YOU KNOW, PRE-PRE-PRESIDENTIAL 370 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:19,300 RUN GROUPS START TO FORM? 371 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:20,600 AND THAT WILL BE MOST TELLING. 372 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,133 BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, HE SAYS 373 00:12:23,133 --> 00:12:24,566 HE'S NOT, AND LOOK, AS YOU KNOW, 374 00:12:24,566 --> 00:12:28,066 HE HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH 375 00:12:28,066 --> 00:12:29,066 PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN THAT GOES 376 00:12:29,066 --> 00:12:31,600 BACK MANY YEARS, SO THERE'S NO 377 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,200 WAY, I THINK, THAT HE WOULD EVEN 378 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,600 SUGGEST THAT HE IS GOING TO RUN 379 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,600 FOR PRESIDENT AGAINST JOE BIDEN 380 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,366 UNLESS JOE BIDEN, YOU KNOW, AT 381 00:12:39,366 --> 00:12:40,500 SOME POINT, SAYS THAT HE'S NOT 382 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,100 GOING TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION, 383 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:43,600 AND THEN THAT WOULD, I THINK, 384 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 CHANGE THE GAME. 385 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,166 BUT AGAIN, HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT. 386 00:12:48,166 --> 00:12:48,700 >> ALL RIGHT. 387 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:52,233 IN TRENTON, THE FINAL VOTING 388 00:12:52,233 --> 00:12:52,833 SESSION IS MONDAY. 389 00:12:52,833 --> 00:12:54,566 LOTS OF STUFF IS NOT GOING TO 390 00:12:54,566 --> 00:12:57,166 SEW A VOTE, LIKE CIVILIAN 391 00:12:57,166 --> 00:12:59,366 COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARDS AND 392 00:12:59,366 --> 00:13:01,133 OTHER POLICE-FOCUSED REFORMS. 393 00:13:01,133 --> 00:13:02,366 BUT THERE WILL BE SOME VERSION 394 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:05,933 OF THE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM ACT 395 00:13:05,933 --> 00:13:08,066 PARED DOWN, I GUESS, UP FOR A 396 00:13:08,066 --> 00:13:09,033 VOTE. 397 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:09,766 KAREN, IS THAT RIGHT? 398 00:13:09,766 --> 00:13:10,366 WHAT'S IN THE NEW BILL, AND 399 00:13:10,366 --> 00:13:13,866 WHAT'S OUT, IF WE KNOW? 400 00:13:13,866 --> 00:13:15,500 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 401 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:16,666 THIS IS SORT OF COBBLED TOGETHER 402 00:13:16,666 --> 00:13:18,266 IN A LAST-MINUTE, AND MY 403 00:13:18,266 --> 00:13:19,466 UNDERSTANDING OF THIS BILL IS 404 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:21,033 IT'S NOT THE REPRODUCTIVE 405 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:22,566 FREEDOM ACT THAT MURPHY HAD 406 00:13:22,566 --> 00:13:24,900 CHAMPIONED FOR MONTHS. 407 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,100 AND THIS WOULD -- THIS NEW BILL 408 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:28,866 WOULD STILL CODIFY THE RIGHT TO 409 00:13:28,866 --> 00:13:29,900 AN ABORTION IN NEW JERSEY, BUT 410 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:32,733 IT WOULD REMOVE THIS PROTECTION 411 00:13:32,733 --> 00:13:34,500 OUT OF ABORTION RIGHTS ACTIVISTS 412 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:36,166 HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR, WHICH IS 413 00:13:36,166 --> 00:13:37,033 WHETHER INSURANCE CARRIERS 414 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:38,966 SHOULD COVER THE COST OF 415 00:13:38,966 --> 00:13:39,266 ABORTION. 416 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:40,000 AND THAT'S REALLY OPENED THE 417 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,566 DOOR FOR THE STATE TO MANDATE IT 418 00:13:41,566 --> 00:13:42,933 IF THERE IS A STUDY DONE THAT 419 00:13:42,933 --> 00:13:44,666 FINDS IT NECESSARY, BUT THAT 420 00:13:44,666 --> 00:13:46,566 SORT OF LEAVES IT UP TO 421 00:13:46,566 --> 00:13:48,833 BUREAUCRACY, AND THERE'S NO 422 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:49,100 TIMELINE. 423 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,033 AND SO I THINK THE WORRY IS, YOU 424 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:53,200 KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 425 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,433 CODIFYING THIS RIGHT AND ALSO 426 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:57,066 MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE, GIVEN WHAT 427 00:13:57,066 --> 00:13:58,166 COULD HAPPEN AT THE U.S. SUPREME 428 00:13:58,166 --> 00:14:00,500 COURT IF THEY OVERTURN ROE V. 429 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:01,833 WADE, AND SO IF THIS BILL 430 00:14:01,833 --> 00:14:04,733 DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO 431 00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:07,933 ACTUALLY EXPAND ACCESS AND 432 00:14:07,933 --> 00:14:09,466 PROTECT WOMEN WHO NEED 433 00:14:09,466 --> 00:14:10,100 PROTECTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT 434 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:11,566 YOU COULD CALL IT A WIN OR 435 00:14:11,566 --> 00:14:14,233 MAKING A MARK IN THIS AREA AS 436 00:14:14,233 --> 00:14:14,866 THE GOVERNOR HAS CHAMPIONED FOR 437 00:14:14,866 --> 00:14:16,566 A WHILE LAST YEAR. 438 00:14:16,566 --> 00:14:18,700 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS BILL IS 439 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,200 KIND OF THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF 440 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,400 HOW THE DEMOCRATS PARTICULARLY 441 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,866 ARE STILL AT ODDS WITH ONE 442 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,733 ANOTHER, THE LEFT FLANK OF THE 443 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:30,366 PARTY VERSUS THE MODERATE FLANK 444 00:14:30,366 --> 00:14:31,000 OF THE PARTY. 445 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,600 DOES THE GOVERNOR NEED TO 446 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,133 REASSURE THE LEFT OF HIS PARTY 447 00:14:36,133 --> 00:14:37,000 THAT HE'S NOT ABANDONING THEIR 448 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,400 ISSUES, KAREN? 449 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:40,833 >> I THINK SO. 450 00:14:40,833 --> 00:14:43,600 I MEAN, I THINK IN THE LAST FEW 451 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,733 WEEKS, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT HE WON 452 00:14:44,733 --> 00:14:46,766 AND HE WON BY A VERY NARROW 453 00:14:46,766 --> 00:14:48,100 MARGIN, A LOT OF PROGRESSIVE 454 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:49,766 GROUPS ARE SORT OF SAYING, OKAY, 455 00:14:49,766 --> 00:14:51,266 LIKE, WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER 456 00:14:51,266 --> 00:14:52,766 ISSUES THAT YOU DIDN'T TACKLE IN 457 00:14:52,766 --> 00:14:54,966 YOUR FIRST TERM? 458 00:14:54,966 --> 00:14:55,666 CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HUGE ONE. 459 00:14:55,666 --> 00:14:57,933 THERE'S A CURRENT FIGHT OVER 460 00:14:57,933 --> 00:15:00,933 BUILDING A THIRD POWER PLANT IN 461 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:01,166 NEWARK. 462 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:03,533 NEWARK IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BUILT 463 00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:04,166 ON THIS AVENUE THAT'S KNOWN AS 464 00:15:04,166 --> 00:15:04,600 CHEMICAL CORRIDOR. 465 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,266 THEY HAVE SO MUCH CONTAMINATION 466 00:15:06,266 --> 00:15:09,600 THERE, AND THE GOVERNOR SORT OF 467 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,133 PASSED THIS ENVIRONMENTAL 468 00:15:10,133 --> 00:15:12,200 JUSTICE BILL AND PROMISED TO 469 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,500 COMBAT, YOU KNOW, RACISM IN THE 470 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:16,933 ENVIRONMENT, AND YET YOU HAVE 471 00:15:16,933 --> 00:15:17,566 THIS POWER PLANT MOVING FORWARD, 472 00:15:17,566 --> 00:15:18,766 AND SO I THINK THERE ARE 473 00:15:18,766 --> 00:15:20,500 PROGRESSIVE GROUPS IN CLIMATE 474 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:21,700 CHANGE AND ISSUES LIKE 475 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:23,133 IMMIGRATION AND AFFORDABILITY IN 476 00:15:23,133 --> 00:15:25,800 HOUSING TRYING TO PUSH HIM TO 477 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,400 GET SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES 478 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,200 DONE THAT WEREN'T DONE DURING 479 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,133 HIS FIRST TERM, BUT AT THE SAME 480 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:30,333 TIME, AS MICHAEL SAID, WE'RE 481 00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:32,000 SEEING THIS RED SURGE OF OUTRAGE 482 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,666 AND THE GOVERNOR PROMISING TO 483 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:35,200 LISTEN TO ALL NEW JERSEYANS, 484 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,766 RIGHT, IN HIS RE-ELECTION 485 00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:38,833 SPEECH, AND SO HOW IS HE GOING 486 00:15:38,833 --> 00:15:41,500 TO BALANCE THOSE TWO SIDES, 487 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:42,133 TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY BUT 488 00:15:42,133 --> 00:15:43,633 ALSO TRYING TO PUT HIS MARK ON 489 00:15:43,633 --> 00:15:46,100 SOME OTHER PROGRESSIVE POLICIES? 490 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,533 >> MATTHEW, YOU WANT TO ADD 491 00:15:47,533 --> 00:15:51,600 ANYTHING TO THAT? 492 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,900 AS IT PERTAINS TO THE INTERNAL 493 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:57,200 KIND OF PHILOSOPHICAL STRUGGLE 494 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,300 AMONG DEMOCRATS AND WHERE DO YOU 495 00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:59,466 THINK ANYTHING'S GOING TO COME 496 00:15:59,466 --> 00:16:00,400 UP ON MONDAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW 497 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:07,533 ABOUT AS FAR AS BILLS? 498 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:08,933 >> THE ONE THING I'M REALLY 499 00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:09,866 FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW, AND THE 500 00:16:09,866 --> 00:16:12,133 SENATOR ALLUDED TO THIS, IS THE 501 00:16:12,133 --> 00:16:14,200 GOVERNOR'S REQUEST THAT THE 502 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,033 LEGISLATURE EXTEND SOME OF HIS 503 00:16:15,033 --> 00:16:16,933 EMERGENCY POWERS, AND WHAT 504 00:16:16,933 --> 00:16:19,933 HAPPENED LATE YESTERDAY WAS THE 505 00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:21,700 LEGISLATURE BARELY EXTENDED SOME 506 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:23,800 OF THEM AND, YOU KNOW, THE BIG 507 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,966 QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING 508 00:16:25,966 --> 00:16:27,633 LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE -- AMONG THE 509 00:16:27,633 --> 00:16:28,433 THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR ASKED 510 00:16:28,433 --> 00:16:30,533 FOR WAS EXTENDING THE MASK 511 00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:32,200 MANDATE IN SCHOOLS, AND THE 512 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,900 LEGISLATURE DIDN'T EXTEND THAT. 513 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:36,800 SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S JUST 514 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,366 BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE TALKED 515 00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:43,166 ABOUT, SORT OF THE GOVERNOR AND 516 00:16:43,166 --> 00:16:43,800 SENATE PRESIDENT STEVE SWEENEY 517 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,900 LOCKING HORNS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 518 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:46,166 WE'RE -- THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 519 00:16:46,166 --> 00:16:48,600 AND NOW THE GOVERNOR NEEDS TO 520 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:48,766 ACT. 521 00:16:48,766 --> 00:16:50,200 THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T DO WHAT 522 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,366 THE GOVERNOR ASKED, AND IT SET 523 00:16:52,366 --> 00:16:54,233 THE STAGE FOR THE GOVERNOR, 524 00:16:54,233 --> 00:16:56,200 THEN, AS SOON AS MONDAY, BECAUSE 525 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,966 THESE RULES SUNSET ON TUESDAY, 526 00:16:58,966 --> 00:17:01,700 HAVING TO DECLARE ANOTHER STATE 527 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:02,633 OF EMERGENCY AND PUTTING THESE 528 00:17:02,633 --> 00:17:05,200 RULES IN EFFECT BECAUSE THE 529 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,166 LEGISLATURE ESSENTIALLY REFUSED 530 00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:08,200 TO DO IT. 531 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,300 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A 532 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:11,966 COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME UP. 533 00:17:11,966 --> 00:17:13,233 THERE'S A BILL THAT WOULD EXTEND 534 00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:17,233 PENSION BENEFITS TO LAWMAKERS. 535 00:17:17,233 --> 00:17:17,866 I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 536 00:17:17,866 --> 00:17:19,700 SNUCK IN THERE, BUT I THINK THE 537 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,333 THING THAT'S GOING TO -- THAT 538 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:22,333 READERS AND VIEWERS ARE REALLY 539 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,633 GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN IS, DO 540 00:17:23,633 --> 00:17:26,366 MY KIDS HAVE TO WEAR MASKS IN 541 00:17:26,366 --> 00:17:27,933 SCHOOL COME WEDNESDAY? 542 00:17:27,933 --> 00:17:29,700 SO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND 543 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:31,633 MONDAY, THERE'S ANOTHER SHOWDOWN 544 00:17:31,633 --> 00:17:32,233 BETWEEN PHIL MURPHY AND STEVE 545 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:36,333 SWEENEY. 546 00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:38,333 >> CODIFYING ABORTION RIGHTS WAS 547 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:42,200 ONE OF THE TOP AGENDA ITEMS OF 548 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,100 MAJORITY LEADER LORETTA 549 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:43,400 WEINBERG. 550 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,233 SHE IS ONE OF SEVERAL LAWMAKERS 551 00:17:46,233 --> 00:17:49,866 LEAVING VOLUNTARILY AND 552 00:17:49,866 --> 00:17:50,366 OTHERWISE. 553 00:17:50,366 --> 00:17:53,200 THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT 554 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,266 LEGISLATURE, ISN'T IT, MATT? 555 00:17:54,266 --> 00:17:56,433 NEW BLOOD VERSUS OLD GUARD? 556 00:17:56,433 --> 00:17:57,533 WHAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT? 557 00:17:57,533 --> 00:17:58,633 >> I CAN'T PREDICT THAT, BUT 558 00:17:58,633 --> 00:17:59,800 IT'S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE A 559 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,100 NEW LEGISLATURE. 560 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,366 WE HAVE A FEW MORE REPUBLICAN 561 00:18:03,366 --> 00:18:05,466 LAWMAKERS COMING IN, LONG-TERM 562 00:18:05,466 --> 00:18:06,266 SENATOR LAWMAKER LORETTA 563 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:08,133 WEINBERG IS LEAVING BUT THE MORE 564 00:18:08,133 --> 00:18:10,400 INTERESTING THING IS, YOU KNOW, 565 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,300 IN THE UPSET ELECTION, STEVE 566 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:14,000 SWEENEY LOST HIS RE-ELECTION 567 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:14,166 BID. 568 00:18:14,166 --> 00:18:15,600 HE'S BEEN SENATE PRESIDENT FOR 569 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,200 OVER A DECADE, AND NOW WE HAVE, 570 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,166 YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME 571 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:19,666 THAT I'VE BEEN COVERING NEW 572 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,300 JERSEY POLITICS, A BRAND-NEW 573 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,466 SENATE PRESIDENT, AND YOU KNOW, 574 00:18:23,466 --> 00:18:26,733 I HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS ABOUT 575 00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:29,533 HOW WILL NICK BE ABLE TO RALLY 576 00:18:29,533 --> 00:18:30,600 HIS CAUCUS WHEN THE GOVERNOR, 577 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,366 WHO I DON'T PREDICT IS GOING TO 578 00:18:32,366 --> 00:18:33,900 BE UNVEILING ANY GRAND PROPOSALS 579 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:37,833 OR INITIATIVES IN HIS SECOND 580 00:18:37,833 --> 00:18:39,366 TERM, IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 581 00:18:39,366 --> 00:18:40,433 WORKING FOR THE SAME THINGS THAT 582 00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:42,166 HE HAD IN HIS FIRST TERM, YOU 583 00:18:42,166 --> 00:18:45,866 KNOW, GUN CONTROL, ABORTION, BUT 584 00:18:45,866 --> 00:18:47,566 THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO 585 00:18:47,566 --> 00:18:48,433 GET WORKED OUT BY MONDAY. 586 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:50,866 BUT YEAH, THE QUESTION IS, NOW 587 00:18:50,866 --> 00:18:54,933 IS NICK SCUTARI GOING -- WHAT IS 588 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:55,800 THE NEW SENATE PRESIDENT GOING 589 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,233 TO BE LIKE? 590 00:18:56,233 --> 00:18:57,666 HOW IS HE GOING TO WORK WITH HIS 591 00:18:57,666 --> 00:18:59,933 CAUCUS TO GET ANYTHING DONE AND 592 00:18:59,933 --> 00:19:01,000 TO GET ANYTHING DONE AFTER AN 593 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,133 ELECTION WHERE DEMOCRATS IN THE 594 00:19:03,133 --> 00:19:04,033 STATE, DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS 595 00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:06,633 PROBABLY ARE QUITE SCARED TO DO 596 00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:09,166 ANYTHING EXTREMELY BOLD BECAUSE 597 00:19:09,166 --> 00:19:09,733 OF THE RESULTS OF THE LAST 598 00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:11,200 ELECTION. 599 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,266 >> MICHAEL AARON, YOU HAVE SEEN 600 00:19:13,266 --> 00:19:16,466 MOST OF THESE PLAYERS ASCEND AND 601 00:19:16,466 --> 00:19:19,433 NOW DESCEND. 602 00:19:19,433 --> 00:19:22,600 THOUGHTS ON LORETTA WEINBERG, 603 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,166 STEVE SWEENEY, AND WHAT MAYBE WE 604 00:19:24,166 --> 00:19:31,166 CAN EXPECT FROM NICK AS SENATE 605 00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:31,600 PRESIDENT. 606 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,166 >> LET ME START WITH STEVE 607 00:19:33,166 --> 00:19:33,400 SWEENEY. 608 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,566 I THINK HE'S BEEN THE DOMINANT 609 00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:37,366 PERSON IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR 610 00:19:37,366 --> 00:19:37,766 THE LAST DECADE. 611 00:19:37,766 --> 00:19:40,400 HE'S SUCH A CHARACTER. 612 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,033 IF YOU WENT UP TO HIM OR IF YOU 613 00:19:43,033 --> 00:19:45,600 PASSED HIM IN THE HALLS AT THE 614 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,233 STATE HOUSE AND SAID, HOW ARE 615 00:19:46,233 --> 00:19:48,266 YOU, HE WOULD INVARIABLY SAY, 616 00:19:48,266 --> 00:19:49,266 EVERY DAY'S A HOLIDAY, EVERY 617 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:50,466 MEAL A TREAT. 618 00:19:50,466 --> 00:19:55,566 THAT WAS HIS LINE. 619 00:19:55,566 --> 00:20:00,600 HE'S BEEN A STRONG, INTERESTING 620 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:00,866 CHARACTER. 621 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:01,466 LORETTA WEINBERG HAS BEEN A 622 00:20:01,466 --> 00:20:01,966 STRONG AND INTERESTING 623 00:20:01,966 --> 00:20:04,800 CHARACTER. 624 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,566 IT'S INTERESTING THAT SWEENEY 625 00:20:05,566 --> 00:20:09,433 HAS PUT HER ON THE HORIZON BLUE 626 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:12,466 CROSS BLUE SHIELD BOARD AS A 627 00:20:12,466 --> 00:20:13,166 GOING AWAY PRESENT. 628 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:17,200 YOU GO TO A FEW BOARD MEETINGS, 629 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,533 AND YOU MAKE $77,000 ANNUALLY. 630 00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:21,233 AS MATT SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A 631 00:20:21,233 --> 00:20:22,966 DIFFERENT LEGISLATURE WITH A 632 00:20:22,966 --> 00:20:24,200 DIFFERENT TONE. 633 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,933 SCUTARI IS GOING TO SET HIS OWN 634 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:26,666 TONE. 635 00:20:26,666 --> 00:20:28,000 IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PREDICT 636 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,933 WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. 637 00:20:28,933 --> 00:20:30,166 BUT HE'S A CLEVER GUY. 638 00:20:30,166 --> 00:20:33,700 HE'S A PRINCIPLED GUY. 639 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,866 AND HE CAN BE IMPRESSIVE WITH 640 00:20:36,866 --> 00:20:39,433 HIS RHETORIC, SO IT IS A NEW 641 00:20:39,433 --> 00:20:39,600 DAY. 642 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,133 >> YEAH. 643 00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:43,000 I GUESS WE HAD THE SAME 644 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 QUESTIONS ABOUT SENATOR SWEENEY 645 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,266 WHEN HE ASCENDED TO SENATE 646 00:20:46,266 --> 00:20:46,733 PRESIDENT. 647 00:20:46,733 --> 00:20:48,766 NOBODY KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT THEN. 648 00:20:48,766 --> 00:20:50,766 I GUESS YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WORK 649 00:20:50,766 --> 00:20:51,400 THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND SEE HOW 650 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,400 THINGS EVOLVE. 651 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,800 >> YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE IN 652 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,200 THE OLD DAYS THAT SENATE 653 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,433 PRESIDENTS SERVED FOR TWO YEARS, 654 00:21:01,433 --> 00:21:03,500 ONE TERM, AND THEN IT ROTATED, 655 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:07,566 AND THAT WAS HOW IT WAS DONE FOR 656 00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:10,833 DECADES UNTIL DON DIFRANCESCO 657 00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:12,100 KEPT GETTING HIMSELF RE-ELECTED 658 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,800 AND HE STAYED ABOUT TEN YEARS 659 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,666 AND THEN DICK COTE SUCCEEDED HIM 660 00:21:18,666 --> 00:21:19,633 AND STAYED ANOTHER TEN YEARS AND 661 00:21:19,633 --> 00:21:23,700 NOW SWEENEY HAS PUT A DECADE IN. 662 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,333 SO, THAT'S A CHANGE FROM THE OLD 663 00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:26,233 WAY OF DOING THINGS. 664 00:21:26,233 --> 00:21:27,900 >> IN YOUR MIND, SWEENEY IS NOT 665 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:28,400 DONE, RIGHT? 666 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,600 I MEAN, IS HE A POTENTIAL 667 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,166 GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE AS 668 00:21:31,166 --> 00:21:35,833 EVERYBODY SUGGESTS? 669 00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:39,366 >> ABSOLUTELY. 670 00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:41,066 I THINK HE'S GOT THE INSIDE 671 00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:43,000 TRACK ON IT IF HE WANTS IT AND I 672 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,500 CAN'T IMAGINE HIM NOT WANTING 673 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:45,666 IT. 674 00:21:45,666 --> 00:21:47,133 >> BACK TO OMICRON. 675 00:21:47,133 --> 00:21:48,900 KAREN, NEWARK, JERSEY CITY, 676 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:50,033 OTHER LARGE DISTRICTS ARE BACK 677 00:21:50,033 --> 00:21:52,400 TO VIRTUAL LEARNING. 678 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,733 SEEMS LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO BE 679 00:21:53,733 --> 00:21:55,100 REMOTE BUT EVERYBODY'S GOING 680 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:55,533 REMOTE. 681 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:58,900 PRESSURE MOUNTING ON THE 682 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,300 GOVERNOR TO DO WHAT EXACTLY? 683 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,166 HE SEEMS TO BE HANDS-OFF. 684 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:03,533 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 685 00:22:03,533 --> 00:22:04,066 I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF 686 00:22:04,066 --> 00:22:04,766 DISTRICTS, THAT'S SORT OF BEEN 687 00:22:04,766 --> 00:22:06,133 HIS M.O., RIGHT, THIS WHOLE 688 00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:08,866 PANDEMIC, LEAVING IT UP TO LOCAL 689 00:22:08,866 --> 00:22:10,400 CONTROL, WHICH IN SOME WAYS HAS 690 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,600 WORKED, BUT IN OTHER WAYS, 691 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:11,833 HASN'T. 692 00:22:11,833 --> 00:22:12,966 I MEAN, DISTRICTS ARE DEALING 693 00:22:12,966 --> 00:22:14,166 WITH A LOT. 694 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:16,666 THEY'RE DEALING WITH NOT JUST 695 00:22:16,666 --> 00:22:18,033 THE AMOUNT OF LEARNING LOSS THAT 696 00:22:18,033 --> 00:22:18,833 HAS HAPPENED DURING REMOTE 697 00:22:18,833 --> 00:22:19,866 LEARNING BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF 698 00:22:19,866 --> 00:22:21,166 FEDERAL FUNDING THAT THEY'RE 699 00:22:21,166 --> 00:22:24,066 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO 700 00:22:24,066 --> 00:22:24,266 WITH. 701 00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:24,933 THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 702 00:22:24,933 --> 00:22:25,166 TESTING. 703 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:26,233 THEY'RE FACING SHORTAGES FROM 704 00:22:26,233 --> 00:22:27,833 SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS TO TEACHERS 705 00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:29,466 TO BUS DRIVERS SO THERE'S A LOT 706 00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:31,733 OF ON THEIR PLATE AND NOT MUCH 707 00:22:31,733 --> 00:22:32,300 ANSWERS OR CLARITY FROM THE 708 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:33,200 GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR THE 709 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,500 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. 710 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,366 I MEAN, YESTERDAY, DURING THE 711 00:22:36,366 --> 00:22:37,833 EDUCATION COMMITTEE HEARING, THE 712 00:22:37,833 --> 00:22:39,300 D.O.E. WAS JUST M.I.A. 713 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:40,566 THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP TO ANSWER 714 00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:40,933 QUESTIONS. 715 00:22:40,933 --> 00:22:42,600 MURPHY HAD A PRESS BRIEFING ON 716 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,833 MONDAY AND DIDN'T REALLY TAKE 717 00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:45,000 MANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF US 718 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,600 WHO WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS 719 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,500 TEST TO STAY OPTION. 720 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:49,533 THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL TESTING 721 00:22:49,533 --> 00:22:52,133 BEING MANDATED FOR KIDS TO GO 722 00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:52,333 BACK. 723 00:22:52,333 --> 00:22:55,600 THIS TEST-TO-STAY OPTION SEEMS 724 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,533 TO BE MORE LIKE A POLICY THAN A 725 00:22:57,533 --> 00:23:00,466 PROGRAM THAT IS COMING WITH 726 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:01,100 RESOURCES AND FUNDING TO HELP 727 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,500 SCHOOLS PROVIDE TESTING. 728 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:06,966 AND YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, 729 00:23:06,966 --> 00:23:08,433 WE'RE SEEING 800 SCHOOLS THAT 730 00:23:08,433 --> 00:23:10,633 ARE CLOSED DUE TO COVID, THAT'S 731 00:23:10,633 --> 00:23:12,433 30% OF THE SCHOOLS, AND WE'LL 732 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:14,566 SEE HOW LONG THIS WAVE LASTS AND 733 00:23:14,566 --> 00:23:15,933 WHETHER THAT REMAINS THE CASE. 734 00:23:15,933 --> 00:23:17,300 BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING 735 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:19,000 THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH US FOR A 736 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,366 WHILE IN FIGURING OUT HOW TO 737 00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:22,800 KEEP KIDS SAFE, BUT KEEPING THEM 738 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,566 LEARNING IS SOMETHING THAT THERE 739 00:23:23,566 --> 00:23:24,666 NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE LEADERSHIP 740 00:23:24,666 --> 00:23:26,433 ON AND SOME DISTRICTS ARE 741 00:23:26,433 --> 00:23:29,100 DEFINITELY CLAMORING FOR THAT 742 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:29,566 AND PARENTS AS WELL. 743 00:23:29,566 --> 00:23:31,233 >> MATT, THE LONGER THIS GOES 744 00:23:31,233 --> 00:23:32,766 ON, THE MORE POLITICALLY 745 00:23:32,766 --> 00:23:33,333 PERILOUS IT BECOMES FOR THE 746 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:37,566 GOVERNOR, NO? 747 00:23:37,566 --> 00:23:39,566 >> YES AND NO. 748 00:23:39,566 --> 00:23:41,333 BECAUSE THE -- FIRST OF ALL, MY 749 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:42,300 COLLEAGUE AND I HAD A STORY THAT 750 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:43,400 RAN, ACTUALLY, THIS MORNING AS 751 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,666 WE WERE SETTING UP FOR THIS 752 00:23:45,666 --> 00:23:47,766 WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS ON THE 753 00:23:47,766 --> 00:23:48,400 RECORD WITH US SAYING THAT THERE 754 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,866 ARE GOING TO BE NO NEW 755 00:23:49,866 --> 00:23:52,033 RESTRICTIONS. 756 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:52,900 SO, BASICALLY, THE WAVE THAT 757 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:54,800 WE'RE IN NOW, WHICH IS SERIOUS, 758 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,433 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TENS OF 759 00:23:55,433 --> 00:23:57,333 THOUSANDS OF NEW CASES EACH DAY, 760 00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:58,766 HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE GOING UP, 761 00:23:58,766 --> 00:24:00,933 AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, 762 00:24:00,933 --> 00:24:02,100 THEY MIGHT ANNOUNCE 30,000 CASES 763 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,533 ON A DAY, BUT THAT DOESN'T 764 00:24:04,533 --> 00:24:06,200 INCLUDE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT 765 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,666 TESTED POSITIVE AT AN AT-HOME 766 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,100 TEST AND PROBABLY DIDN'T REPORT 767 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,633 IT TO THE STATE. 768 00:24:11,633 --> 00:24:12,266 AND I KNOW PERSONALLY, AT LEAST 769 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:13,233 A HALF DOZEN PEOPLE THAT DID IT 770 00:24:13,233 --> 00:24:14,666 THAT WAY. 771 00:24:14,666 --> 00:24:16,133 SO, I SUSPECT WHAT THE GOVERNOR 772 00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:19,733 IS HOPING FOR IS THAT -- IS A 773 00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:22,066 MONTH OF A LOT OF CASES, A LOT 774 00:24:22,066 --> 00:24:24,233 OF WOES, BUT THEN A STEEP 775 00:24:24,233 --> 00:24:26,000 DECLINE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, 776 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,733 MAYBE WITHIN TWO MONTHS, WE'RE 777 00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:30,800 LIVING IN AN ENDEMIC AND NOT A 778 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,066 PANDEMIC. 779 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:32,900 BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY HINGES ON 780 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:34,033 WHATEVER NEW VARIANT IS GOING TO 781 00:24:34,033 --> 00:24:37,400 COME OUT OF ANYWHERE, BUT YEAH, 782 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,833 I MEAN, LOOK, TO YOUR QUESTION, 783 00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:42,533 IF THE GOVERNOR NEEDS TO DECLARE 784 00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:44,200 ANOTHER STATE OF EMERGENCY, SAY, 785 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,266 ON MONDAY, BECAUSE THE 786 00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:48,233 LEGISLATURE DIDN'T RE-UP THE 787 00:24:48,233 --> 00:24:48,866 THINGS THAT HE IS ASKING FOR AS 788 00:24:48,866 --> 00:24:51,800 WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THIS 789 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,700 CURRENT HUGE SPIKE, I THINK A 790 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,566 LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE 791 00:24:54,566 --> 00:24:56,700 ANGRY AT THE GOVERNOR AND HE'S 792 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:57,566 STUCK HOLDING THAT HOT 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