1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:04,700 >>> SPOILING CHRIS CHRISTIE' 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:09,133 ADMINISTRATION 3 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,466 >> PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS, 4 00:00:12,466 --> 00:00:13,400 STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,433 COMMUNITY, AND INVESTING IN NE 6 00:00:14,433 --> 00:00:15,533 JERSEY'S FUTURE. 7 00:00:15,533 --> 00:00:17,566 PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED B 8 00:00:17,566 --> 00:00:19,000 NEW JERSEY "NEW JERSEY BUSINESS" 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,433 MAGAZINE, THE MAGAZINE OF TH 10 00:00:20,433 --> 00:00:22,233 NEW JERSEY BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY 11 00:00:22,233 --> 00:00:22,900 ASSOCIATION. 12 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:24,833 REPORTING TO EXECUTIVES AN 13 00:00:24,833 --> 00:00:27,200 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN ALL 2 14 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:27,633 COUNTIES FOR THE GARDEN STAT 15 00:00:27,633 --> 00:00:43,000 SINCE 1954 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,300 >>> DAWN ZIMMER LEVELS A NEW 17 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:47,600 ALLEGATION AGAINST THE CHRISTI 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:47,733 ADMINISTRATION 19 00:00:47,733 --> 00:00:49,600 THE GOVERNOR IGNORES ALL THE 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 CHATTER AND GIVES A STRAIGHT-U 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,100 SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS 22 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:56,533 THE LEGISLATURE MERGES ITS TWO 23 00:00:56,533 --> 00:00:57,400 INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEES 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,733 WELCOME TO "REPORTER 25 00:00:59,733 --> 00:01:01,566 ROUNDTABLE," I'M MICHAEL ARON AT 26 00:01:01,566 --> 00:01:03,100 THE NJTV STATE HOUSE IN TRENTON. 27 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:04,333 WITH US, FOUR REPORTERS ON THE 28 00:01:04,333 --> 00:01:06,233 FRONT LINE OF THE STORY, KEVIN 29 00:01:06,233 --> 00:01:08,533 McCARDLE OF TOWN SQUARE MEDI 30 00:01:08,533 --> 00:01:11,433 AND NEW JERSEY 101.5 RADIO 31 00:01:11,433 --> 00:01:17,966 TERRENCE PP -- TERRENCE DOPP O 32 00:01:17,966 --> 00:01:23,700 BLAB NEWS, MICHAEL SIMON OFS O 33 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,300 THE IS "-- SIMONS OF THE "ASBURY 34 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:29,500 PARK PRESS." 35 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:32,700 DID GOVERNOR CHRISTIE' 36 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:36,866 ADMINISTRATION THREAT BACKLASH 37 00:01:36,866 --> 00:01:38,333 THAT WAS THE ACCUSATION LAST 38 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:38,533 WEEKEND. 39 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:40,166 ON TUESDAY, THE GOVERNMENT 40 00:01:40,166 --> 00:01:41,033 ENGULFED IN A SECOND 41 00:01:41,033 --> 00:01:42,133 CONTROVERSY, STOOD AND DELIVERED 42 00:01:42,133 --> 00:01:43,900 HIS SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS 43 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:45,400 UNLIKE IN HIS STATE OF THE STATE 44 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,433 SPEECH THE WEEK BEFORE, HE MAD 45 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:49,466 NO REFERENCE TO WHAT ONE ANALYST 46 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:51,133 CALLED THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, 47 00:01:51,133 --> 00:01:53,400 THE POINT WE EXPLORED IN 48 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,266 GATHERING POST SPEECH REACTION 49 00:01:57,266 --> 00:01:59,500 WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT HE 50 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:00,733 DIDN'T ALLUDE TO THE CRISIS HE'S 51 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:01,100 FACING 52 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:03,066 >> I'M NOT SURPRISED 53 00:02:03,066 --> 00:02:04,666 THERE'S NO NEED TO ALLUDE TO IT. 54 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:05,966 EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY AND THE 55 00:02:05,966 --> 00:02:07,633 WORLD KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN 56 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:08,966 THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. 57 00:02:08,966 --> 00:02:11,033 >> HOW EASY WILL IT BE TO RIDE 58 00:02:11,033 --> 00:02:14,666 OUT THE MEDIA STORM? 59 00:02:14,666 --> 00:02:15,833 >> I THINK HE TOOK 60 00:02:15,833 --> 00:02:16,900 RESPONSIBILITY, HE TERMINATED 61 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:17,800 COUPLE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T TEL 62 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,000 HIM THE TRUTH. 63 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,900 HE'S BEEN FRANK AND TOOK HEAD-ON 64 00:02:20,900 --> 00:02:21,233 RESPONSIBILITY 65 00:02:21,233 --> 00:02:22,166 UNLIKE PERHAPS SOME OTHE 66 00:02:22,166 --> 00:02:23,500 FIGURES YOU MIGHT CONTRAST HIM 67 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:23,866 TO 68 00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:25,633 >> WHO ARE YOU THINKING OF 69 00:02:25,633 --> 00:02:31,900 >> SOME NATIONAL FIGURES 70 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:33,700 >> I SAW ON THE "TODAY" SHOW 71 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:34,300 "MEET THE PRESS," I'VE GOT 72 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:35,366 NOTHING TO SAY BASICALLY 73 00:02:35,366 --> 00:02:36,600 I DON'T WANT TO GO ON THOS 74 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:36,966 SHOWS. 75 00:02:36,966 --> 00:02:37,900 "GOOD MORNING AMERICA. 76 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:40,233 YOU KNOW, YOU NAME IT, "WALL 77 00:02:40,233 --> 00:02:41,066 STREET JOURNAL," NEW YORK TIMES. 78 00:02:41,066 --> 00:02:43,133 AND THE -- AND THERE'S NOTHING 79 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:44,466 MORE TO SAY. 80 00:02:44,466 --> 00:02:46,900 EVERYTHING'S SAID I THINK -- NOW 81 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:47,966 THE INVESTIGATION, HOPEFULLY A 82 00:02:47,966 --> 00:02:50,100 FAIR ONE, WILL TAKE PLACE. 83 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,033 WE'LL FIND OUT -- FIND OUT THE 84 00:02:52,033 --> 00:02:52,133 TRUTH. 85 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:54,366 >> KEVIN, WHERE ARE WE IN THIS 86 00:02:54,366 --> 00:02:55,200 SCANDAL? 87 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,233 >> IT CONTINUES TO UNRAVEL AS WE 88 00:02:58,233 --> 00:02:58,533 KNOW 89 00:02:58,533 --> 00:02:59,200 THURSDAY AFTERNOON IT CAME T 90 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,800 LIGHT THAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S 91 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,600 OFFICE SUBPOENAED THE STAT 92 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,433 COMMITTEE, REPUBLICAN STAT 93 00:03:04,433 --> 00:03:07,033 COMMITTEE AND ALSO ISSUE 94 00:03:07,033 --> 00:03:09,133 SUBPOENAS REGARDING -- TO TH 95 00:03:09,133 --> 00:03:10,300 CHRISTIE FOR GOVERNOR CAMPAIGN 96 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:14,233 BUT MARK SHERIDAN, THE ATTORNE 97 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:15,900 FOR THE CHRISTIE FOR GOVERNO 98 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:17,600 CAMPAIGN SAID CLEARLY ALL TH 99 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,200 DOCUMENTS HAD TO DO WITH THE 100 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,033 GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE ACCES 101 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:21,966 LANE CLOSURES. 102 00:03:21,966 --> 00:03:22,833 DIDN'T SAY THEY HAD ANYTHING T 103 00:03:22,833 --> 00:03:23,833 DO WITH THE DAWN ZIMME 104 00:03:23,833 --> 00:03:24,533 ALLEGATIONSES. 105 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:27,000 WE HAVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 23rd FO 106 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,700 THE SUBPOENAS TO BE ISSUED 107 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:30,166 THE ONES ISSUED BY THE 108 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,400 LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. 109 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,666 WE HAVE NOW FEBRUARY 5th TO FIND 110 00:03:32,666 --> 00:03:33,933 OUT OR -- I DON'T KNOW THA 111 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:37,600 WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE U.S. 112 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,300 ATTORNEY GETS BACK 113 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:39,600 IT TONS UNRAVEL. 114 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,900 THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTIONS, BU 115 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:42,166 STILL HAVE YET TO BE ANSWERED. 116 00:03:42,166 --> 00:03:43,633 YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT WE'RE GOIN 117 00:03:43,633 --> 00:03:45,166 TO BE DOING FOR TH 118 00:03:45,166 --> 00:03:46,200 UNFORESEEABLE FUTURE FOR SURE. 119 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,000 >> DARRELL, HOW DO YOU SEE WHERE 120 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,566 WE ARE AT THE SNOEMT 121 00:03:48,566 --> 00:03:50,100 >> I THINK IT'S CLEAR -- AT TH 122 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:50,600 MOMENT 123 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,266 >> I THINK IT'S CLEAR IT'S NOT 124 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:54,033 STOPPING ANY TIME SOON 125 00:03:54,033 --> 00:03:55,233 EACH TIME THERE'S A LULL, IT 126 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:56,233 RAMPS BACK UP AGAIN. 127 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,900 I THINK AS KEVIN SAID WE'LL BE 128 00:03:57,900 --> 00:03:59,100 DEALING WITH THIS FOR A LONG 129 00:03:59,100 --> 00:03:59,366 TIME 130 00:03:59,366 --> 00:04:00,966 I THINK YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF 131 00:04:00,966 --> 00:04:01,366 ISSUES HERE. 132 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:02,933 THESE -- AS KEVIN SAID, TH 133 00:04:02,933 --> 00:04:04,100 SUBPOENA WAS JUST FOR DOCUMENT 134 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:05,100 ON THE GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE. 135 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:06,833 WE DO KNOW THE U.S. ATTORNEY I 136 00:04:06,833 --> 00:04:08,433 INTERESTED IN THE HOBOKEN CASE 137 00:04:08,433 --> 00:04:08,866 AS WELL. 138 00:04:08,866 --> 00:04:11,700 >> WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE DAWN 139 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:13,900 ZIMMER SAID THAT SHE SPOKE T 140 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,666 PEOPLE IN THE -- IN THE U.S. 141 00:04:15,666 --> 00:04:17,533 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LAST SUNDAY, 142 00:04:17,533 --> 00:04:19,900 AND THOSE PEOPLE -- PEOPLE WHO 143 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:22,166 SHE SUPPOSEDLY TOLD THIS ALL T 144 00:04:22,166 --> 00:04:23,166 ALSO SAY THEY HAVE BEE 145 00:04:23,166 --> 00:04:23,800 INTERVIEWED BY THE FBI 146 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,066 >> BY THE FBI. 147 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:25,500 YEAH 148 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:25,700 EXACTLY. 149 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:26,733 >> NOW WE KNOW IT -- 150 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:27,266 >> EXACTLY 151 00:04:27,266 --> 00:04:28,500 WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING 152 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:29,500 AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING 153 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:30,000 FIRSTHAND THAT THEY'VE BEE 154 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,166 THERE. 155 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:31,233 THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT THE 156 00:04:31,233 --> 00:04:33,300 FBI HAS QUESTIONED PEOPLE WH 157 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:37,000 WOULD KNOW OR WHO ZIMMER SAY 158 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,233 SHE TOLD BACK WHEN THE ALLEGED 159 00:04:38,233 --> 00:04:39,900 THREATS WERE MADE. 160 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:41,766 >> IT'S A TWO-FRONT WAR NOW. 161 00:04:41,766 --> 00:04:43,200 IF YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE, O 162 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,133 EITHER SIDE OF IT, HOW DO YO 163 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:50,566 SEE WHERE THINGS STAND 164 00:04:50,566 --> 00:04:53,133 >> AS DAMAGING AS THE BRIDGE 165 00:04:53,133 --> 00:04:55,733 THING, THE HOBOKEN ONE I 166 00:04:55,733 --> 00:04:57,466 POTENTIALLY WORSE. 167 00:04:57,466 --> 00:04:59,433 IN PART BECAUSE THE WAY THAT 168 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:01,033 DAWN ZIMMER TELLS THE STORI, I 169 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:03,933 MORE DIRECTLY IMPLICATES 170 00:05:03,933 --> 00:05:04,533 GOVERNOR CHRISTIE. 171 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:05,833 WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THA 172 00:05:05,833 --> 00:05:07,866 WAS SAID TO THE MAYOR OF HOBOKEN 173 00:05:07,866 --> 00:05:08,733 ALONG THE WAY. 174 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:09,900 SHE TALKED ABOUT THIS MEETIN 175 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:11,633 THAT SHE HAD WITH THE LIEUTENANT 176 00:05:11,633 --> 00:05:13,366 GOVERNOR IN MAY AND -- AND HER 177 00:05:13,366 --> 00:05:14,866 VERSION OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE 178 00:05:14,866 --> 00:05:16,633 SHE TALKED ABOUT SIMILAR MESSAGE 179 00:05:16,633 --> 00:05:20,466 SHE SAYS SHE GOT FROM THE DC 180 00:05:20,466 --> 00:05:21,633 COMMISSIONER CONSTABLE 181 00:05:21,633 --> 00:05:25,333 SHE ALSO LADDED IN THE HEAD OF 182 00:05:25,333 --> 00:05:27,000 THE SANDY ROVER OFFICE 183 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,966 THREE PEOPLE WHO SHE SAID HA 184 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:29,700 GIVEN HER MESSAGES 185 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:30,933 WHAT INTERESTS SUBCOMMITTE 186 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:32,100 THERE'S THIS APRIL LETTER WHER 187 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,800 SHE WROTE TO THE GOVERNOR AN 188 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,666 MAKES THE CONNECTION BETWEEN 189 00:05:35,666 --> 00:05:37,033 YOU KNOW, IT'S -- I THINK TH 190 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:38,700 WAY SHE WORDED IT WAS, YOU KNO 191 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:39,533 OTHER OTHER COMMUNITIES AREN'T 192 00:05:39,533 --> 00:05:41,400 BEING ASKED TO TIE DEVELOPMENT 193 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,900 TO SANDY FUNDS 194 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:45,300 AND THAT COMES BEFORE ANY OF 195 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:46,900 THOSE MEETINGS THAT SHE TALKED 196 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,366 ABOUT IN THOSE TELEVISIO 197 00:05:49,366 --> 00:05:49,700 INTERVIEWS 198 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:52,700 SO WHAT WE KNOW OF WHAT DAWN 199 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:53,633 ZIMMER SAID AT THIS POINT, W 200 00:05:53,633 --> 00:05:55,000 STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY SH 201 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,500 THINKS THAT THAT PRESSURE BEGA 202 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,566 IN THE FIRST PLACE 203 00:05:59,566 --> 00:06:00,800 SO THIS IS A STORY PARTICULARL 204 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,300 IF WE'RE ON A TIMETABLE WHERE WE 205 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:03,466 WAIT FOR THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S 206 00:06:03,466 --> 00:06:08,200 OFFICE TO COMPLETE ITS 207 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,066 INVESTIGATION, THAT IT'S GOING 208 00:06:09,066 --> 00:06:10,133 TO TAKE A WHILE, WHICH I 209 00:06:10,133 --> 00:06:11,033 PROBABLY NOT WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S 210 00:06:11,033 --> 00:06:12,000 OFFICE WANTS TO HEAR 211 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,333 >> TERRY, WHERE DO YOU SEE IT AT 212 00:06:13,333 --> 00:06:13,900 THE MOMENT 213 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:15,933 >> AT THE MOMENT, I THINK IT'S 214 00:06:15,933 --> 00:06:17,266 GOING TO KEEP GOING IN THE SOR 215 00:06:17,266 --> 00:06:18,466 OF FITS AND STARTS BECAUSE I 216 00:06:18,466 --> 00:06:21,700 YOU LOOK, IT'S LIKE, WELL, THERE 217 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:22,666 ARE MOMENTS OF CRAZY EXCITEMENT, 218 00:06:22,666 --> 00:06:23,866 THEN A COUPLE OF DAY REST. 219 00:06:23,866 --> 00:06:27,466 THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER FRON 220 00:06:27,466 --> 00:06:31,133 OPENS UP 221 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:34,133 I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO IN FITS 222 00:06:34,133 --> 00:06:34,633 AND STARTS 223 00:06:34,633 --> 00:06:37,833 THE HOBOKEN ISSUE IS INTERESTING 224 00:06:37,833 --> 00:06:38,866 TO SEE YOU THIS DEVELOPS 225 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:41,933 I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MORE OF 226 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:43,933 A SENSE OF BEWONDERMENT AMON 227 00:06:43,933 --> 00:06:45,600 SOME PEOPLE AT WHAT'S HAPPENIN 228 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,500 IN HOBOKEN 229 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,933 AND TO SEE HOW THAT FULL 230 00:06:48,933 --> 00:06:49,500 DEVELOPS 231 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:50,633 I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WILL 232 00:06:50,633 --> 00:06:51,833 KNOW THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE 233 00:06:51,833 --> 00:06:53,333 >> DO YOU AGREE WITH MIKE THAT 234 00:06:53,333 --> 00:06:54,066 HOBOKEN IS POTENTIALLY MOR 235 00:06:54,066 --> 00:06:54,900 SERIOUS THAN THE GEORG 236 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,766 WASHINGTON BRIDGE? 237 00:06:57,766 --> 00:06:59,033 SOMETHING I'M NOT SURE I AGREE 238 00:06:59,033 --> 00:07:00,900 WITH IF. 239 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:02,633 >> -- AGREE WITH 240 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:03,833 >> THE REASON IT'S POTENTIALLY 241 00:07:03,833 --> 00:07:05,366 MORE SERIOUS FOR THE GOVERNOR IS 242 00:07:05,366 --> 00:07:06,766 NOT EVEN AS MUCH I'M NOT -- I' 243 00:07:06,766 --> 00:07:08,100 NOT A LAWYER SO I'M NOT GOING TO 244 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:09,466 GET INTO THE SORT OF CRIMINA 245 00:07:09,466 --> 00:07:11,200 ASPECTS OF IT. 246 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,500 IF YOU LOOK AT IT PURELY FROM 247 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,900 POLITICAL ASPECT, THERE'S SORT 248 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:16,600 OF THIS NEBULOUS IDEA THAT 249 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,800 SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE GONE OUT ON 250 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,633 THAT BRIDGE. 251 00:07:18,633 --> 00:07:19,700 WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT I 252 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:19,866 IS 253 00:07:19,866 --> 00:07:21,733 WE MAY OR MAY NOT EVER HAVE 254 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:24,466 SMOKING GUN DIRECTLY TO TH 255 00:07:24,466 --> 00:07:24,633 GOVERNOR 256 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:25,700 HERE YOU HAVE A MAYOR STANDING 257 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:27,433 UP SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, TH 258 00:07:27,433 --> 00:07:29,166 ADMINISTRATION SAID ON HIS 259 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:30,166 BEHALF THEY PRESSURED ME INT 260 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:30,800 DEVELOPING A PROJECT - 261 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,900 >> THAT IT IMPLICATES TH 262 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:35,533 GOVERNOR MORE DIRECTLY THAN TH 263 00:07:35,533 --> 00:07:37,033 BRIDGE THING - 264 00:07:37,033 --> 00:07:39,100 >> YES, I DO 265 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:40,800 IT'S ALSO FROM A PUBLI 266 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,366 PERSPECTIVE STANDPOINT 267 00:07:42,366 --> 00:07:43,066 IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE T 268 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:43,433 UNDERSTAND 269 00:07:43,433 --> 00:07:44,700 IT'S NOT NEBULOUS. 270 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,166 IT'S A CONCRETE DEVELOPMENT. 271 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:46,966 POLITICALLY SPEAKING DISH. 272 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:50,833 >> THEY'RE BOTH PRETTY EASY TO 273 00:07:50,833 --> 00:07:53,333 UNDERSTAND 274 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:54,733 BUT THEY'RE -- THERE'S THI 275 00:07:54,733 --> 00:07:56,600 NOTION THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN 276 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,400 HOBOKEN IS POLITICS AS USUAL 277 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,700 WHEREAS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE 278 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:05,533 BRIDGE IS -- IS EXCESSIVE. 279 00:08:05,533 --> 00:08:06,733 ANY OF YOU WANT TO SPEAK T 280 00:08:06,733 --> 00:08:07,100 THAT 281 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,700 >> WELL, I WOULD SAY THE REASO 282 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,766 WHY IN MY OPINION THE HOBOKE 283 00:08:11,766 --> 00:08:12,866 SITUATION COULD BE A BIT MOR 284 00:08:12,866 --> 00:08:16,900 SERIOUS TO THE GOVERNOR HIMSEL 285 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:21,800 IS THESE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS 286 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,433 THESE ARE VOTED ON BY LAWMAKER 287 00:08:24,433 --> 00:08:25,200 IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 288 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,566 IT COULD BE MISUSE OF FEDERA 289 00:08:26,566 --> 00:08:26,833 FUNDS. 290 00:08:26,833 --> 00:08:28,666 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE 291 00:08:28,666 --> 00:08:30,266 NOTE THAT ON MONDAY AT A MARTI 292 00:08:30,266 --> 00:08:31,600 LUTHER KING DAY EVENT I THINK IN 293 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,100 UNION BEACH, THE LIEUTENAN 294 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:35,533 GOVERNOR COULD NOT HAVE BEEN 295 00:08:35,533 --> 00:08:40,633 MORE ADAMANT IN DENYING MAYO 296 00:08:40,633 --> 00:08:41,233 ZIMMER'S CHARGE. 297 00:08:41,233 --> 00:08:42,633 THAT IS ONE ASPECT OF IT 298 00:08:42,633 --> 00:08:43,700 NOW YOU'RE MESSING WITH TH 299 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:43,933 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT - 300 00:08:43,933 --> 00:08:48,466 >> COMMISSIONER CONSTABLE IFFO 301 00:08:48,466 --> 00:08:51,966 CAMERA BUT PUTTING OUT A -- IF 302 00:08:51,966 --> 00:08:53,433 NOT ON CAMERA BUT PUTTING OUT 303 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:53,833 COUPLE OF STATEMENT. 304 00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:54,466 >> RIGHT 305 00:08:54,466 --> 00:08:55,933 THE GEORGE WASHINGTON THING 306 00:08:55,933 --> 00:08:59,200 THINK IS -- ON FOR LACK OF A 307 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,766 BETTER PHRASE -- SEXIER THAN THE 308 00:09:00,766 --> 00:09:01,066 OTHER. 309 00:09:01,066 --> 00:09:02,266 THAT'S NOT THE BIGGEST IN TH 310 00:09:02,266 --> 00:09:03,800 REGION OR COUNTRY -- IT'S TH 311 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,166 BUSIEST BRIDGE IN THE WORLD. 312 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:07,966 SO PEOPLE ARE JUST STUNNED A 313 00:09:07,966 --> 00:09:12,166 THE ABJECT STUPIDITY THAT IT 314 00:09:12,166 --> 00:09:12,966 MIGHT HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR THE 315 00:09:12,966 --> 00:09:13,866 REASON IT WAS. 316 00:09:13,866 --> 00:09:17,966 >> ON THAT FRONT, I THINK TH 317 00:09:17,966 --> 00:09:20,766 SANDY THING TOUCHES PEOPLE MORE. 318 00:09:20,766 --> 00:09:22,833 EVERYBODY KNOWS WE GOT KILLED IN 319 00:09:22,833 --> 00:09:24,400 SANDY. 320 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,533 EVEN THOUGH THESE POOLS MONE 321 00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:29,333 HAVE BEEN IN THIS WHOLE THING, 322 00:09:29,333 --> 00:09:30,633 WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SAY WE'RE 323 00:09:30,633 --> 00:09:32,366 NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY YO 324 00:09:32,366 --> 00:09:33,966 NEED TO REBUILD AFTER SAND 325 00:09:33,966 --> 00:09:35,966 UNLESS YOU DO WHAT WE TELL YOU 326 00:09:35,966 --> 00:09:37,966 I THINK THAT RESONATES WIT 327 00:09:37,966 --> 00:09:38,333 PEOPLE 328 00:09:38,333 --> 00:09:39,300 ESPECIALLY IN COUNTY WHERE 329 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:40,833 PEOPLE GOT HAMMERED BY THIS. 330 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:43,500 ON ONE HAND THEY LOOK AND SAY, 331 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,933 OH, TRAFFIC UP IN FT. LEE EVER 332 00:09:44,933 --> 00:09:45,133 DAY. 333 00:09:45,133 --> 00:09:46,366 THIS ISN'T A BIG DEAL. 334 00:09:46,366 --> 00:09:48,666 THE OTHER THING, WOW, THIS GUY 335 00:09:48,666 --> 00:09:51,300 CAN'T REBUILD HIS HOUSE OR 336 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:52,333 BUSINESS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR' 337 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:53,066 PLAYING POLITICS 338 00:09:53,066 --> 00:09:54,200 IT'S MORE COMPLICATED AS WE'VE 339 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,100 COME TO FIND OUT 340 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:56,100 BUT THAT'S THE MESSAGE THA 341 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:58,700 COMES OUT OF THIS. 342 00:09:58,700 --> 00:09:59,400 I THINK THAT RESONATES 343 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,400 >> ANOTHER REASON WH 344 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,600 POLITICALLY SPEAKING, NO 345 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,966 LEGALLY AGAIN, THE HOBOKEN 346 00:10:02,966 --> 00:10:03,466 SITUATION COULD BE MORE SERIOU 347 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:05,866 FOR THE GOVERNOR IS THAT -- IN 348 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:07,933 HOBOKEN, TWO OF THE THRE 349 00:10:07,933 --> 00:10:11,866 PREVIOUS MAYORS HAD GONE TO JAIL 350 00:10:11,866 --> 00:10:12,200 FOR CORRUPTION 351 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:18,733 ONE OF THEM EXTREMELY PUBLICLY 352 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:19,100 CAMERANO 353 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,000 HERE YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHER 354 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,233 THE ACCUSATION IS YOU HAVE A 355 00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:26,500 GOVERNOR WHO CAME IN TO OFFICE 356 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:27,500 PLEDGING TO TURN THING UPSID 357 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:29,000 DOWN, INVOLVED IN AN ALLEGATIO 358 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,033 OF CORRUPTION AND HOLDING MONE 359 00:10:30,033 --> 00:10:31,233 HOSTAGE IN HOBOKEN 360 00:10:31,233 --> 00:10:32,100 IN HUDSON COUNTY 361 00:10:32,100 --> 00:10:35,333 YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SORT OF 362 00:10:35,333 --> 00:10:36,366 SHIFT. 363 00:10:36,366 --> 00:10:42,933 EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S AN EASIE 364 00:10:42,933 --> 00:10:44,166 ISSUE FOR EVERYONE TO LATCH ON 365 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:45,600 TO THAN HEY, PEOPLE GOT STUCK IN 366 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,866 A TRAFFIC JAM. 367 00:10:47,866 --> 00:10:49,633 MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TIED TO 368 00:10:49,633 --> 00:10:50,033 THE GOVERNOR 369 00:10:50,033 --> 00:10:54,266 >> AND ON THE POLITICAL SIDE, 370 00:10:54,266 --> 00:10:55,666 LOT OF THE GOVERNORS' REPUTATION 371 00:10:55,666 --> 00:10:57,266 WAS BUILT ON SANDY 372 00:10:57,266 --> 00:11:00,233 AND HOW HE RESPONDED TO IT 373 00:11:00,233 --> 00:11:01,800 SO IT WOULD BE PERSON FOR HI 374 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,000 THIS THIS NOT STICK AND THEN 375 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,400 BECOME PART OF THAT STORY WHIC 376 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,700 IS, YEAH, HE DID A GREAT JOB 377 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:10,066 WITH THE HURRICANE AND THEN HE 378 00:11:10,066 --> 00:11:10,933 BROWBEAT CONGRESS AND THEN DID 379 00:11:10,933 --> 00:11:13,666 THIS WITH THE MONEY. 380 00:11:13,666 --> 00:11:14,700 WE HAVE NO PROOF THAT ANY OF 381 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:15,366 THAT HAPPENED -- 382 00:11:15,366 --> 00:11:17,233 >> USED IT FOR HIS OWN POLITICAL 383 00:11:17,233 --> 00:11:17,566 GAIN - 384 00:11:17,566 --> 00:11:18,066 >> EXACTLY 385 00:11:18,066 --> 00:11:20,700 THERE'S NO PROOF ANY OF THAT HAS 386 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:21,600 HAPPENED AT THIS POINT 387 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,666 BUT IF IT BECOMES WHAT PEOPL 388 00:11:22,666 --> 00:11:24,833 TAKE AWAY FROM THIS, THAT'S BA 389 00:11:24,833 --> 00:11:24,966 POLITICALLY. 390 00:11:24,966 --> 00:11:28,066 >> HOW IS THE GOVERNOR'S OFFIC 391 00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:29,633 DEALING WITH ALL OF THIS 392 00:11:29,633 --> 00:11:32,400 HOW -- WHAT POSTURE ARE THEY 393 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:32,666 TAKING 394 00:11:32,666 --> 00:11:36,433 WHAT STRATEGY ARE THEY 395 00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:37,400 SUGGESTING OR REVEALING? 396 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,800 >> THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I'V 397 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,033 SEEN 398 00:11:39,033 --> 00:11:40,700 ONE IS VERY MUCH A DUCK AN 399 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:40,833 COUGH. 400 00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:42,300 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD - 401 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:43,133 DUCK AND COVER 402 00:11:43,133 --> 00:11:44,100 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE 403 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:44,566 SAME EXPERIENCE. 404 00:11:44,566 --> 00:11:46,900 ON THE PHONE, NOBODY WANT TO SAY 405 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:49,600 A WORD ABOUT ANYTHING. 406 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,466 MINOR, WHAT TIME IS, IT I'M NO 407 00:11:52,466 --> 00:11:53,200 TELLING YOU ANYTHING 408 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,600 >> GOOD, IT'S NOT JUST ME. 409 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,933 >> I CALLED THE OTHER DAY FOR 410 00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:56,600 BASIC QUESTION 411 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,000 IT WAS LIKE, "WE CAN'T HELP YO 412 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,400 NOW. 413 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,333 THE OTHER I THINK -- WHAT YOU'VE 414 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:04,700 SEEN OUT THERE IS AN ATTEMPT NOT 415 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:05,666 AS MUCH FROM THE GOVERNOR' 416 00:12:05,666 --> 00:12:06,866 OFFICE THOUGH THEY HAVE DONE IT, 417 00:12:06,866 --> 00:12:08,333 AS WELL, IS THE ATTEMPT TO PUS 418 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:10,866 BACK ON THE PARTISAN ATTAC 419 00:12:10,866 --> 00:12:11,133 FRONT. 420 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:12,166 THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE CAME OUT 421 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,966 WITH A SCATHING, SCATHIN 422 00:12:14,966 --> 00:12:16,200 RESPONSE THAT ATTACKED MSNBCMENT 423 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,633 AND YOU'VE SEEN AROUND THE 424 00:12:17,633 --> 00:12:19,566 COUNTRY KIND -- MSNBC. 425 00:12:19,566 --> 00:12:20,966 AND YOU'VE SEEN AROUND THE 426 00:12:20,966 --> 00:12:22,400 COUNTRY KIND OF SYMPATHETI 427 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,666 FIGURES. 428 00:12:22,666 --> 00:12:25,200 SOME OF THE MEDIA SAYING WE'VE 429 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,800 GONE OVERBOARD, THIS IS GETTIN 430 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:26,966 RIDICULOUS 431 00:12:26,966 --> 00:12:28,000 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC AT A 432 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,700 BRIDGE HERE. 433 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:30,366 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIVE 434 00:12:30,366 --> 00:12:31,466 LOST AND THINGS LIKE IT. 435 00:12:31,466 --> 00:12:33,000 YOU'VE SEEN THE PUSH BAC 436 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,966 AGAINST THAT -- THAT DOG PILE. 437 00:12:34,966 --> 00:12:36,866 >> ANYBODY ELSE SEE ANYTHING I 438 00:12:36,866 --> 00:12:38,800 WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE -- OR 439 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,866 THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF IS DOING? 440 00:12:41,866 --> 00:12:43,800 >> A LITTLE BIT OF A CIRCLE TH 441 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,300 WAGON MENTALITY, I WOULD SAY 442 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,666 ALL QUIET ON THAT WESTERN FRONT. 443 00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:49,166 AND TRYING TO PIT IT BEHIND HIM. 444 00:12:49,166 --> 00:12:53,533 >> AND IN HIS SPEECH ON TUESDAY, 445 00:12:53,533 --> 00:12:55,433 SECOND INAUGURAL, I WENT TO TH 446 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:56,900 WAR MEMORIAL THINKING WILL HE OR 447 00:12:56,900 --> 00:13:01,800 WON'T HE BRING IT UP 448 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,500 AND THEN WHEN HE DIDN'T BRING IT 449 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,166 UP, I THOUGHT OF COURSE HE'S NOT 450 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:04,300 GOING BRING IT UP. 451 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:06,066 THERE'S THE RED BOOK THAT WE ALL 452 00:13:06,066 --> 00:13:07,066 USED TO LIVE BY. 453 00:13:07,066 --> 00:13:08,400 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL 454 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,400 PUBLISHED BUT IT USED TO BE TH 455 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,333 BIBLE OF NEW JERSEY STAT 456 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:13,800 GOVERNMENT 457 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,800 AND IT CARRIES THE MOST RECENT 458 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,433 INAUGURAL ADDRESS. 459 00:13:18,433 --> 00:13:20,500 I THOUGHT, CHRISTIE ISN'T GOIN 460 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,633 TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A SCANDA 461 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:23,200 THAT WOULD FIND ITS WAY INTO THE 462 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,066 RED BOOK FOR THE NEXT 20 OR 30 463 00:13:25,066 --> 00:13:27,200 YEARS WHEN THE SCANDAL COULD ALL 464 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,033 EVAPORATE IN THREE WEEKS' TIME 465 00:13:30,033 --> 00:13:31,766 SO WE LOOKED FOR SOMETHING THA 466 00:13:31,766 --> 00:13:34,000 HE DID SAY IN THE SPEECH THA 467 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,633 WOULD BE INTERESTING 468 00:13:34,633 --> 00:13:36,833 HERE, LET'S TRY THIS ONE 469 00:13:36,833 --> 00:13:38,366 >> TODAY, I THANK ALL THOSE WH 470 00:13:38,366 --> 00:13:40,700 HAVE ONCE AGAIN PLACED THEIR 471 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:42,466 FAITH AND TRUST IN ME, AND I 472 00:13:42,466 --> 00:13:44,133 MAKE THIS PROM ICE -- I WILL NOT 473 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:45,000 LET UP 474 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I WILL INSIST WE WORK TOGETHER 475 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,600 AND I WILL MAKE THIS GOVERNMEN 476 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,600 TRULY WORK FOR THOSE WHO PAY FOR 477 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:52,700 IT 478 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:54,900 >> WAS HE SAYING THAT -- H 479 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:57,400 WOULD PROVIDE GOVERNMENT FOR THE 480 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,433 WEALTHY AND NOT FOR TH 481 00:14:01,433 --> 00:14:02,433 FREELOADERS OR THE NEEDY 482 00:14:02,433 --> 00:14:03,366 DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT, WHO 483 00:14:03,366 --> 00:14:06,333 AREN'T PAYING FOR IT 484 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:10,700 WHAT WAS HE TRYING TO SAY THERE? 485 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:12,866 >> WOW 486 00:14:12,866 --> 00:14:14,433 >> YOU GUYS INTERPRET HIS WORD 487 00:14:14,433 --> 00:14:15,100 ALL THE TIME 488 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:15,933 WHAT WAS HE SAYING 489 00:14:15,933 --> 00:14:17,133 >> I THINK GIVE THE GUY TH 490 00:14:17,133 --> 00:14:17,766 BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT 491 00:14:17,766 --> 00:14:21,800 I THINK HE WAS JUST TRYING T 492 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,900 CREATE WAY WAY FOR -- GIVE 493 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:25,466 EVERYONE A BUY-IN TO THE 494 00:14:25,466 --> 00:14:25,733 GOVERNMENT 495 00:14:25,733 --> 00:14:26,666 MAKE GOVERNMENT WORK 496 00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:28,033 >> HE SAID LATER, I'M NOT GOIN 497 00:14:28,033 --> 00:14:30,166 TO TAX THE WEALTHY THE WAY -- HE 498 00:14:30,166 --> 00:14:32,366 IMPLIED THE WAY DEBLASIO IN NE 499 00:14:32,366 --> 00:14:33,133 YORK IS DOING. 500 00:14:33,133 --> 00:14:33,766 >> RIGHT 501 00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:37,900 BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT READY TO 502 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:38,866 BLAST HIM, AS THAT BEING A SOR 503 00:14:38,866 --> 00:14:42,000 OF DOG WHISTLE FOR, YOU KNOW 504 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:49,000 GOVERNMENT FORMED BY THE 505 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,233 HEALTHY. 506 00:14:49,233 --> 00:14:50,433 I WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE 507 00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:51,933 AVERAGE PERSON, HEY, THIS IS 508 00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:52,466 YOUR GOVERNMENT. 509 00:14:52,466 --> 00:14:53,166 >> EVERYONE AGREED 510 00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:54,266 >> AGREED. 511 00:14:54,266 --> 00:14:57,000 AGAIN THE BACKDROP OF THE BRIDGE 512 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,866 GATE SITUATION AND THE 513 00:14:57,866 --> 00:14:59,666 ALLEGATIONS OUT OF HOBOKEN 514 00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:01,133 LISTEN TO IT DIFFERENTLY 515 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:03,133 THE ONE THING -- AGAIN, I DON' 516 00:15:03,133 --> 00:15:05,100 KNOW, AND WE'RE ALL CLEARLY GOOD 517 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:06,666 AT PARSING AND CAPTURING WHA 518 00:15:06,666 --> 00:15:07,466 WE'RE SAYING 519 00:15:07,466 --> 00:15:10,400 WHEN HE SAID WE HAVE PUT 520 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,400 PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE ON THE 521 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,700 ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE 522 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:15,300 CLEARLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN 523 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:16,833 BRIDGE GATE IS PARTISAN, BUT T 524 00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:18,966 ME I WAS LIKE, IF HE SAYING THAT 525 00:15:18,966 --> 00:15:20,733 THAT ISSUE'S NOT IMPORTANT 526 00:15:20,733 --> 00:15:21,933 SO I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOU 527 00:15:21,933 --> 00:15:23,200 THE PARTISANSHIP GOING ON THERE. 528 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:23,700 PROBABLY NOT 529 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:26,700 MAYBE SO 530 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:28,200 I DON'T KNOW 531 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,766 >> ON THAT VERY MORNING OF HIS 532 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:34,700 SECOND INAUGURAL, SENATE 533 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,333 MAJORITY AND ASSEMBLY MAJORITY 534 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:37,333 ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WOULD MERG 535 00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:40,000 THE TWO COMMITTEES INVESTIGATING 536 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,533 ALL OF THIS INTO -- AT LEAST 537 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:46,100 INVESTIGATING THE BRIDGE 538 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:46,333 SCANDAL. 539 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:50,666 MERGE THE TWO COMMITTEES TO ONE. 540 00:15:50,666 --> 00:15:52,133 AS MANY PEOPLE AND EDITORIAL 541 00:15:52,133 --> 00:15:53,400 WRITERS HAVE BEEN CALLING FO 542 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,900 FOR A WEEK OR TEN DAYS 543 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,633 BUT THE TIMING WAS -- A LITTLE 544 00:15:57,633 --> 00:15:57,900 STRANGE. 545 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:00,966 AN HOUR BEFORE HIS SPEECH, THE 546 00:16:00,966 --> 00:16:03,300 ANNOUNCE THIS -- I WONDER IF 547 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:07,000 THEY WERE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO 548 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,966 STEP ON HIS WAY. 549 00:16:08,966 --> 00:16:11,366 I ASKED FORMER GOVERNOR DICK 550 00:16:11,366 --> 00:16:12,500 CODY THAT QUESTION THIS WEEK 551 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:13,200 HE DIDN'T THINK SO 552 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,600 HE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST, YO 553 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,866 KNOW, THEY FINALLY GOT I 554 00:16:15,866 --> 00:16:17,633 TOGETHER TO DO WHAT A LOT OF 555 00:16:17,633 --> 00:16:21,933 PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAV 556 00:16:21,933 --> 00:16:23,966 DONE THE FIRST TIME DID. 557 00:16:23,966 --> 00:16:25,666 ANYBODIELS HAVE THAT THOUGHT 558 00:16:25,666 --> 00:16:27,466 THAT THIS -- ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 559 00:16:27,466 --> 00:16:28,233 THAT THOUGHT 560 00:16:28,233 --> 00:16:29,066 THAT THIS WAS POLITICA 561 00:16:29,066 --> 00:16:29,500 MISCHIEF 562 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:31,633 >> IT MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT I THINK 563 00:16:31,633 --> 00:16:33,433 THERE'S A VERY, VERY BIG FEVER 564 00:16:33,433 --> 00:16:35,000 INSIDE DEMOCRATIC CIRCLE THAT' 565 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,766 THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW THIS 566 00:16:37,766 --> 00:16:39,233 THAT GOT SOMETHING AND DON'T 567 00:16:39,233 --> 00:16:41,466 WANT TO TRY IT UP AS WE'VE SEE 568 00:16:41,466 --> 00:16:43,000 THEM DO ON OTHER THINGS IN THE 569 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,066 PAST 570 00:16:43,066 --> 00:16:44,633 SO I THINK THEY WERE IN A HURR 571 00:16:44,633 --> 00:16:46,933 TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SORT OF 572 00:16:46,933 --> 00:16:48,900 QUELLED THIS DUAL PATH THAT WA 573 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:50,533 GOING OFF IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS 574 00:16:50,533 --> 00:16:50,833 -- 575 00:16:50,833 --> 00:16:52,833 >> I SPOKE TO STEVE SWEENEY THAT 576 00:16:52,833 --> 00:16:53,033 DAY. 577 00:16:53,033 --> 00:16:54,933 HE -- HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT H 578 00:16:54,933 --> 00:16:56,266 HAD HEARD THE CRITICISM OF THE 579 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:57,000 2003 COMMITTEES. 580 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:03,566 AND YET, IF YOU HAVE TWO 581 00:17:03,566 --> 00:17:05,333 COMMITTEES AND SAY FOR 582 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:07,200 ARGUMENT'S SAKE, BRIDGETTE KELLY 583 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,466 GOES BEFORE ONE COMMITTEE -- I 584 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:09,733 YOU HAVE A SECOND COMMITTEE YO 585 00:17:09,733 --> 00:17:12,066 HAVE A SECOND SHOT AT THE APPL 586 00:17:12,066 --> 00:17:14,100 BASED ON WHAT SHE TOLD THE FIRST 587 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,900 COMMITTEE. 588 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,500 SO MAYBE THEY UNDERCUT THE 589 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:19,100 INVESTIGATION POTENCY OF THE 590 00:17:19,100 --> 00:17:20,500 EFFORT BY GOING TO ONE 591 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:20,766 COMMUNITY. 592 00:17:20,766 --> 00:17:22,466 >> THE DAY THAT IT WAS -- THAT 593 00:17:22,466 --> 00:17:23,966 IT HAPPENED, THAT THE TW 594 00:17:23,966 --> 00:17:25,300 COMMITTEES CAME OUT, I GOT A 595 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,400 TELLING FOREIGN EXCHANGE A 596 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,000 DEMOCRAT WHO SAID, "DID WE JUS 597 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,033 FIND A WAY TO BLOW THIS? 598 00:17:32,033 --> 00:17:34,300 SO I THINK THERE WAS SOM 599 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:36,933 INTERNAL STRIFE GOING ON THAT WE 600 00:17:36,933 --> 00:17:38,666 NEED TO REIGN THIS IN A BIT. 601 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:39,333 >> YEAH. 602 00:17:39,333 --> 00:17:42,233 RAINING -- I THINK THERE WAS 603 00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:43,133 SOME CONCERN AMONG SOME IN THE 604 00:17:43,133 --> 00:17:44,133 DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT YOU HAVE 605 00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:46,266 TWO COMMITTEES -- LIKE, WELL 606 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,033 WHO SUBPOENAS WHO? 607 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,733 WHO GETS TESTIMONY FROM WHO? 608 00:17:48,733 --> 00:17:50,033 DO WE SHARE DOCUMENTS? 609 00:17:50,033 --> 00:17:52,533 YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- DO WE DO IT 610 00:17:52,533 --> 00:17:55,166 AS IF WE ARE BOTH RUNNING TW 611 00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:56,400 COMPLETELY SEPARATE OR DO WE 612 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,233 SORT OF COORDINATE - 613 00:18:00,233 --> 00:18:01,366 >> CRIPPLING OURSELVES 614 00:18:01,366 --> 00:18:03,100 >> THE FEELING IS YOU HAVE EIGHT 615 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:04,633 ASSEMBLY MEMBERS, FOUR SENATORS, 616 00:18:04,633 --> 00:18:06,366 SO YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOO 617 00:18:06,366 --> 00:18:07,466 REPUTATION PROPORTIONALLY FROM 618 00:18:07,466 --> 00:18:09,533 BOTH HOUSES. 619 00:18:09,533 --> 00:18:11,633 YOU SHARE WHAT'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN 620 00:18:11,633 --> 00:18:13,466 UNEARTHED IN EITHER HOUSE. 621 00:18:13,466 --> 00:18:16,233 YOU KNOW, YOUR A LITTLE BIT MORE 622 00:18:16,233 --> 00:18:16,333 COORDINATED. 623 00:18:16,333 --> 00:18:18,300 MAYBE IT YOU DON'T GET A SECON 624 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:21,433 SHOT AT THE APPLE AS YOU PUT IT, 625 00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:22,166 YOU STILL GET A BETTER FIRST 626 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:22,300 SHOT 627 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:23,966 >> HAVE THE NAMES COME OUT 628 00:18:23,966 --> 00:18:25,033 >> NO. 629 00:18:25,033 --> 00:18:25,266 NOT YET. 630 00:18:25,266 --> 00:18:26,700 >> MONDAY IS THE VOTE. 631 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:30,700 I THINK IT AOL -- I THINK IT'S 632 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,466 GOOD FOR THE TAXPAYERS WHO PAY 633 00:18:32,466 --> 00:18:33,566 FOR THE GOVERNMENT THAT THERE' 634 00:18:33,566 --> 00:18:34,933 ONE SPECIAL COUNCIL AS OPPOSED 635 00:18:34,933 --> 00:18:36,866 TO TWO BECAUSE THAT BILL I 636 00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:38,466 GOING TO PROBABLY GET PRETTY 637 00:18:38,466 --> 00:18:39,466 LARGE PRETTY QUICK 638 00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:41,000 WHEN THEY VOTE MONDAY, AND 639 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,233 GRANDSON WE'LL FIND OUT TH 640 00:18:42,233 --> 00:18:43,600 COMMITTEE MEMBERS MONDAY, BUT 641 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,266 THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING T 642 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:49,766 WATCH HOW THE REPUBLICAN 643 00:18:49,766 --> 00:18:52,500 APPROACH THIS DEBATE BECAUSE THE 644 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:54,833 FIRST TIME WHEN THE VOTES WERE 645 00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:55,566 ANONYMOUS IN EITHER HOUSE, THA 646 00:18:55,566 --> 00:18:56,800 WAS BEFORE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE 647 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,966 HAD TAKEN A NEW MORE AGGRESSIV 648 00:18:58,966 --> 00:19:00,866 TAX ABOUT QUESTIONING TH 649 00:19:00,866 --> 00:19:04,400 MOTIVATIONS BEHIND A LOT OF TH 650 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,200 THIS 651 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,433 SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO 652 00:19:09,433 --> 00:19:09,533 WATCH. 653 00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:11,866 >> I KNOW THAT THERE -- THER 654 00:19:11,866 --> 00:19:13,700 WERE COMPLAINTS IN THE 655 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:15,833 LEGISLATURE THAT MAINLY FROM 656 00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:17,700 JOHN BROWN AND FELLO 657 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:20,900 REPUBLICANS THAT THE DEMOCRATS 658 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:22,533 HAVE HIJACKED THE INVESTIGATION. 659 00:19:22,533 --> 00:19:23,766 THAT WIZZIES IN KEY'S GOING TO 660 00:19:23,766 --> 00:19:28,133 RUN IT -- WISNEFSKIE IS GOING TO 661 00:19:28,133 --> 00:19:29,533 RUN IT LIKE A DICTATOR 662 00:19:29,533 --> 00:19:30,666 HAS THE GOVERNMENT STEPPED UP? 663 00:19:30,666 --> 00:19:33,933 >> I THINK THAT WHEN THE MOR 664 00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:35,566 THAN STORY ON HOBOKEN CAME OUT 665 00:19:35,566 --> 00:19:37,566 THAT AT THAT POINT, THEY - 666 00:19:37,566 --> 00:19:39,200 SURE, THEY BEGAN ON THE HOBOKE 667 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,566 PART AT FIRST, BUT THEN THEY 668 00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:45,066 ALSO HAD OUT A RELEASE 669 00:19:45,066 --> 00:19:46,333 CRITICIZING SOME OF THE THINGS 670 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:49,266 THAT WISNEFSKI HAD SAID, WHICH 671 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:53,933 IS PART OF WHAT YOU HEARD TH 672 00:19:53,933 --> 00:19:56,466 PREVIOUS SPEAKER AND THE 673 00:19:56,466 --> 00:19:56,733 QUESTIONS, PROBABLY WHY IT'S 674 00:19:56,733 --> 00:19:59,733 WISE TO KEEP THIS FOCUSED ON THE 675 00:19:59,733 --> 00:20:02,000 BRIDGE AND LEAVE HOBOKEN STUFF 676 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,733 TO OTHER AUTHORITIES 677 00:20:02,733 --> 00:20:07,500 AND I THINK AT FIRST, TH 678 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,733 COMMENTS IN DEMOCRATS WERE 679 00:20:08,733 --> 00:20:10,000 WELL, MAYBE WE HAVE TO GO THERE. 680 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,933 AND THEY'VE CHANGED DIRECTION -- 681 00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:11,533 >> REALLY? 682 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:12,300 THEY'RE GOING STAY WITH TH 683 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:13,166 BRIDGE AND NOT GO OVER TO HO 684 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:13,500 BROKEN 685 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:14,900 >> UNDERSTAND IMMEDIATELY. 686 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:17,066 >> NOT IMMEDIATELY 687 00:20:17,066 --> 00:20:20,866 ASSEMBLYMAN WISNEFSKI TALKED 688 00:20:20,866 --> 00:20:23,533 ABOUT THE 1-MEMBER PANEL AND 689 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:25,533 ASKED ABOUT THE HOBOKEN MAYOR' 690 00:20:25,533 --> 00:20:26,766 ALLEGATIONS AND SAID IT WOULD BE 691 00:20:26,766 --> 00:20:29,533 PREMATURE TO DO NOW THAT NOW 692 00:20:29,533 --> 00:20:30,966 WITH REGARD TO THE MILLSTACK AND 693 00:20:30,966 --> 00:20:31,933 BITE AT THE APPLE ARGUMENT, 694 00:20:31,933 --> 00:20:33,766 THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. 695 00:20:33,766 --> 00:20:35,166 IT'S CRITICAL, ACTUALLY, THA 696 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:36,800 THIS PANEL IS STAFFED WITH THE 697 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,966 BEST AND BRIGHTEST YOU CAN HAV 698 00:20:38,966 --> 00:20:40,633 BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED A SECON 699 00:20:40,633 --> 00:20:41,666 BITE AT THE APPLE. 700 00:20:41,666 --> 00:20:44,466 THERE'S NO TIME CLOCK. 701 00:20:44,466 --> 00:20:45,866 YOU CAN KEEP ASKING QUESTION 702 00:20:45,866 --> 00:20:48,100 UNTIL ONE OF THE CHAIRS GAVELS 703 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,000 AT CLOSING 704 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,066 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WEE 705 00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:50,466 ASKING 706 00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:52,066 DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME THE 707 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:52,800 CLOCK SAYS 708 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,533 YOU WEEP ASKING. 709 00:20:53,533 --> 00:20:56,566 >> THEN CALL HIM BACK, TOO 710 00:20:56,566 --> 00:20:57,300 >> YEP 711 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,733 >> CALL HIM BACK 712 00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:00,566 >> YEAH. 713 00:21:00,566 --> 00:21:03,666 >> THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE 714 00:21:03,666 --> 00:21:05,766 MOURNING WHAT HAS BECOME O 715 00:21:05,766 --> 00:21:07,766 THEIR HERO 716 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:09,500 THOSE WHO THOUGHT CHRIS CHRISTIE 717 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,466 WAS IN LINE TO BE THE -- A 718 00:21:11,466 --> 00:21:15,466 LEAST THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE 719 00:21:15,466 --> 00:21:18,100 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION ARE 720 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,633 SERIOUSLY CONCERNED THAT HE' 721 00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:22,233 WOUNDED NOW. 722 00:21:22,233 --> 00:21:24,233 LET'S -- LET'S HEAR FORMER 723 00:21:24,233 --> 00:21:26,333 GOVERNOR TOM CANE ONE MORE TIME. 724 00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:30,033 >> THIS GOVERNMENT IS -- THI 725 00:21:30,033 --> 00:21:31,500 GOVERNMENT CAN GROW. 726 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:35,700 AND I'D LIKE TO RUN FO 727 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:35,900 PRESIDENT, BUT -- WHETHER OR NOT 728 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:37,300 I DON'T KNOW BUT I WOULD LIK 729 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:37,666 TO 730 00:21:37,666 --> 00:21:39,833 >> YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HIM RUN 731 00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:40,266 >> I WOULD 732 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,700 I THINK HE'S GOT A LOT IT OFFE 733 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,266 THE COUNTRY, I DO. 734 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:46,566 >> DO YOU SENSE THIS, THAT THERE 735 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:51,000 ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK AS TOM CANE 736 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,633 SAID HE HAS A LOT IT OFFER THE 737 00:21:52,633 --> 00:21:53,866 COUNTRY AND NOW HE'S DAMAGED 738 00:21:53,866 --> 00:21:54,300 GOODS? 739 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,433 >> THAT'S ONE WAY. 740 00:21:56,433 --> 00:21:57,433 AND THERE'S ANOTHER WAY IN I 741 00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:59,000 YOU TALK TO THE POLITICA 742 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000 SCIENCES AND ACADEMICS 743 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,666 ONE OF THE ALTERNATE THEORIE 744 00:22:03,666 --> 00:22:04,800 GOING AROUND IS THAT THIS COUL 745 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,966 ACTUALLY -- IF CHRIS CHRISTI 746 00:22:06,966 --> 00:22:08,166 HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN MALIGNE 747 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:09,800 BY THE FAR RIGHT OF HIS OW 748 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,666 PARTY, THIS COULD ACTUALLY BUY 749 00:22:11,666 --> 00:22:14,066 HIM CREDIBILITY IN A REPUBLICA 750 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:17,700 PRIMARY IN TERMS OF JUST PEOPL 751 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,833 SAYING, PEOPLE IN IOWA AND 752 00:22:18,833 --> 00:22:20,733 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN NEBRASK 753 00:22:20,733 --> 00:22:22,233 SAYING, "WAIT, THIS IS TRAFFIC 754 00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:24,066 AT A BRIDGE. 755 00:22:24,066 --> 00:22:25,166 SOME IS NOT SOMETHING WE 756 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:26,633 NECESSARILY GET. 757 00:22:26,633 --> 00:22:28,033 >> IT COULD BE BACKLASH? 758 00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:28,833 >> YEAH. 759 00:22:28,833 --> 00:22:30,566 BECAUSE HERE'S A GUY WHO WAS 760 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:31,266 CRITICIZED FOR HIS COOPERATION 761 00:22:31,266 --> 00:22:35,000 WITH THE PRESIDENT AND WIT 762 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,333 DEMOCRATS. 763 00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:38,133 YOU IN BEING MALIGNED BAY TH 764 00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:42,333 "DEMOCRATIC MEDIA" AND LIBERAL 765 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:42,433 MEDIA. 766 00:22:42,433 --> 00:22:43,633 THERE'S A THOUGHT THAT IT COUL 767 00:22:43,633 --> 00:22:44,966 BUY HIM CREDIBILITY WITH A 768 00:22:44,966 --> 00:22:45,966 CERTAIN SEGMENT. 769 00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:46,500 HIS -- 770 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,800 >> MY ENMOOE IS MY ENEMY, MY 771 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,733 FRIEND -- ENEMY IS MY ENEMY, M 772 00:22:52,733 --> 00:22:53,800 FRIEND IS MY FRIEND. 773 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,066 A QUOTE THAT'S BEEN KICKED 774 00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:55,500 AROUND 775 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:56,900 >> THERE'S SO MUCH COMMENTAR 776 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,233 GOING ON AT THE MOMENT 777 00:22:58,233 --> 00:23:01,300 SOMEBODY SAID THAT HE THINKS 778 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:02,633 CHRIS CHRISTIE'S ROLE MODEL IN 779 00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:04,366 ALL OF THIS IS BILL CLINTON. 780 00:23:04,366 --> 00:23:10,433 YOU JUST -- YOU JUST KEE 781 00:23:10,433 --> 00:23:11,700 SLOGGING THROUGH WHATEVER' 782 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:12,500 THROWN AT YOU. 783 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,866 YOU STAY UPRIGHT, AND YOU STAY 784 00:23:14,866 --> 00:23:15,133 TOUGH. 785 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:16,200 >> THERE'S CERTAINLY PRECEDENT 786 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,233 I MEAN, CERTAINLY PRECEDENT FO 787 00:23:18,233 --> 00:23:19,566 PEOPLE EMERGING ON THE OTHER 788 00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:20,500 SIDE OF THE SCANDALS 789 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,333 AND SUCCEEDING 790 00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,600 I MEAN, BILL CLINTON'S THE MOS 791 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,400 POPULAR DEMOCRAT IN THE COUNTR 792 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:24,600 NOW. 793 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,966 THERE WAS A POINT WHEN YOU 794 00:23:25,966 --> 00:23:27,166 DIDN'T THINK HE WOULD GE 795 00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:28,733 THROUGH THAT -- THROUGH THAT 796 00:23:28,733 --> 00:23:29,200 ELECTION 797 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,333 AND SO I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY 798 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:31,700 RIGHT. 799 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,266 YOU LOOK AND SAY, LOOK, THIS GUY 800 00:23:33,266 --> 00:23:35,866 BECAME THE PRESIDENT AND NOW 801 00:23:35,866 --> 00:23:38,400 HE'S LIONIZED IN THE PARTY 802 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,000 I DON'T THINK HIS OBITUARY 803 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,066 SHOULD BE WRITTEN YET. 804 00:23:44,066 --> 00:23:45,733 >> NO QUESTION 805 00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:47,866 WHEN YOU SAID IS HE WOUNDED, 806 00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:48,900 CLEARLY HE'S WOUNDED 807 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:49,900 HE'S NOT DEAD IN THE WATER 808 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:51,900 ON THE FRIDAY EDITION OF THE 809 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,566 "TODAY" SHOW, MITT ROMNEY WAS ON 810 00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:56,100 MAINLY BECAUSE OFFAL ARTICLE 811 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:57,800 ABOUT HIM. 812 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,233 HE WAS ASKED ABOUT CHRIS 813 00:23:59,233 --> 00:23:59,900 CHRISTIE 814 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:03,566 HE SAID, I THINK THINK HE'S GO 815 00:24:03,566 --> 00:24:05,800 WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A PRESIDENT. 816 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,666 HE'S TOUGH AND WAS A LEADER. 817 00:24:08,666 --> 00:24:11,700 AND THE PREVIOUS STICK 818 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,033 COLLECTION IS STANDING BY. 819 00:24:13,033 --> 00:24:14,433 >> WHAT'S NEXT, SUBPOENAS ON 820 00:24:14,433 --> 00:24:16,466 FEBRUARY rd? 821 00:24:16,466 --> 00:24:20,233 THE NEXT MARKER THAT WE'RE 822 00:24:20,233 --> 00:24:21,133 POINTING TOWARD? 823 00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:21,466 >> RIGHT 824 00:24:21,466 --> 00:24:23,366 I THINK AFTER THE DOCUMENTS COME 825 00:24:23,366 --> 00:24:25,166 IN AND THEY'RE DUE ON THE THIRD, 826 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,333 YOU KNOW, WHO'S TO SAY THA 827 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:28,366 SOMEBODY MIGHT REQUEST O 828 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,233 RECEIVE AN EXTENSION FOR WHE 829 00:24:29,233 --> 00:24:33,466 THOSE COME IN. 830 00:24:33,466 --> 00:24:35,833 AFTER THAT WE'LL BE HAVE 831 00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:37,033 LAWMAKERS LOOK THROUGH THAT AN 832 00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:38,833 DECIDING WHO TO INVITE IN FO 833 00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:38,933 TESTIMONY. 834 00:24:38,933 --> 00:24:40,633 I IMAGINE BY MID-FEBRUARY. 835 00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:42,000 >> MEANWHILE, THE U.S. 836 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,300 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS 837 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:44,700 INVESTIGATING. 838 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:46,500 I SAW SOME COMMENTARY THIS 839 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,000 MORNING SUGGESTING THAT -- O 840 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,800 POINTING, UNDERSCORING THE IRONY 841 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,400 THAT U.S. ATTORNEY 842 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,766 INVESTIGATING THE FORMER 843 00:24:54,766 --> 00:24:56,466 POWERFUL, FAMOUS U.S. ATTORNEY 844 00:24:56,466 --> 00:24:59,400 THAT PEOPLE IN THE FBI IN THAT 845 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,666 OFFICE MAY STILL HAVE FEELINGS 846 00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:04,233 OF LOYALTY OR AD -- ADMINATION 847 00:25:04,233 --> 00:25:05,200 FOR HIM. 848 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,500 WONDERING IF THIS WOULD LEAD T 849 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,566 A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR OUTSIDE I 850 00:25:11,566 --> 00:25:11,900 NEW YORK 851 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:13,333 BUFF WE'RE OUT OF TIME SO 852 00:25:13,333 --> 00:25:16,400 CAN'T GET ANY ANSWERS. 853 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,466 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 854 00:25:17,466 --> 00:25:20,200 JERRY, MIKE, DARRELL, KEVIN. 855 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,766 WE'LL BE BACK WITH ANOTHER 856 00:25:22,766 --> 00:25:24,200 "ROUNDTABLE" NEXT SATURDAY A 857 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,066 5:30 P.M. AND SUNDAY AT 9:00 ON. 858 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:28,200 THIS WEEK'S, ADDITION OF "ON THE 859 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,700 RECORD," KEAN'S UNIVERSITY'S 860 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:32,600 CONTROVERSIAL PRESIDENT. 861 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,100 HE'S OUR GUEST 862 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:38,433 THAT'S SATURDAYS AT 2:00 AND 863 00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:40,900 SUNDAYS AT 10:00 FOR ROBUS 864 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,133 COVERAGE OF THE CONTROVERS 865 00:25:42,133 --> 00:25:44,933 SURROUNDING GOVERNOR CHRISTIE. 866 00:25:44,933 --> 00:25:47,633 WATCH N.J. 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