1 00:00:00,066 --> 00:00:02,000 >>> RELATIONS AT THE TOP OF 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,400 STATE GOVERNMENT CONTINUE TO 3 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,133 LOOK A LITTLE STRAINED. 4 00:00:05,133 --> 00:00:05,566 ♪♪♪ 5 00:00:05,566 --> 00:00:08,033 >>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS 6 00:00:08,033 --> 00:00:09,933 ROUNDTABLE" IS PROVIDED BY NEW 7 00:00:09,933 --> 00:00:11,900 JERSEY REALTORS, THE VOICE FOR 8 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:13,100 REAL ESTATE IN NEW JERSEY. 9 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:17,133 MORE INFORMATION ONLINE AT 10 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:19,633 NJREALTOR.COM. 11 00:00:19,633 --> 00:00:28,500 AND BY RWJ BARNABUS HEALTH. 12 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:30,733 PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED BY 13 00:00:30,733 --> 00:00:31,966 NEW JERSEY BUSINESS MAGAZINE, 14 00:00:31,966 --> 00:00:34,000 THE MAGAZINE OF THE NEW JERSEY 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,833 BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY 16 00:00:35,833 --> 00:00:37,766 ASSOCIATION, REPORTING TO 17 00:00:37,766 --> 00:00:39,833 EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE 18 00:00:39,833 --> 00:00:42,266 LEADERS IN ALL 21 COUNTIES OF 19 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:43,833 THE GARDEN STATE SINCE 1954. 20 00:00:43,833 --> 00:00:49,500 ♪♪♪ 21 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:51,100 >>> WELCOME TO "REPORTERS 22 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:51,500 ROUNDTABLE." 23 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:52,533 I'M MICHAEL ARON. 24 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:54,766 WHY IS SENATE PRESIDENT STEVE 25 00:00:54,766 --> 00:00:56,533 SWEENEY HOLDING UP THE 26 00:00:56,533 --> 00:00:58,166 CONFIRMATION PROCESS FOR TWO OF 27 00:00:58,166 --> 00:00:59,866 GOVERNOR MURPHY'S CABINET 28 00:00:59,866 --> 00:01:00,300 OFFICERS? 29 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:01,933 THAT WAS THE BIG QUESTION AT THE 30 00:01:01,933 --> 00:01:03,933 STATE HOUSE LATE THIS WEEK. 31 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:09,800 THEY'RE BOTH DEMOCRATS, RIGHT? 32 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,933 FORMER SUPERINTENDENT IS 33 00:01:10,933 --> 00:01:14,266 MURPHY'S CHOICE FOR EDUCATION 34 00:01:14,266 --> 00:01:14,966 COMMISSIONER. 35 00:01:14,966 --> 00:01:17,900 FORMER OBAMA EDUCATION POLICY 36 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:21,333 ADVISOR ELLIS IS HIS CHOICE FOR 37 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:22,633 SECRETARY OF HIGHER EDUCATION. 38 00:01:22,633 --> 00:01:24,633 MOST NOMINEES WERE APPROVED 39 00:01:24,633 --> 00:01:26,466 EASILY IN COMMITTEE. 40 00:01:26,466 --> 00:01:29,100 SWEENEY SAID HE WASN'T SATISFIED 41 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:30,466 WITH SOME OF THEIR STATEMENTS 42 00:01:30,466 --> 00:01:32,666 AND POSITIONS. 43 00:01:32,666 --> 00:01:34,100 WE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE SITUATION 44 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:34,800 ON THURSDAY? 45 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,466 >> THESE ARE TWO EXTRAORDINARY 46 00:01:37,466 --> 00:01:37,866 INDIVIDUALS. 47 00:01:37,866 --> 00:01:39,600 I DIDN'T SAY IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T 48 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,333 HEAR ABOUT IT BEFORE DAN'S 49 00:01:44,333 --> 00:01:45,966 COLLEAGUE HAD HEARD ABOUT IT AND 50 00:01:45,966 --> 00:01:48,733 HE PUT SOMETHING OUT TO THAT 51 00:01:48,733 --> 00:01:49,266 EFFECT. 52 00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:51,433 THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO CONFIRM 53 00:01:51,433 --> 00:01:54,500 THESE FOLKS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO 54 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:57,466 AFRICAN-AMERICAN PHDs ON OUR 55 00:01:57,466 --> 00:01:58,933 NOMINATED CABINET. 56 00:01:58,933 --> 00:01:59,333 [ APPLAUSE ] 57 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:03,633 >> THE MOST DIVERSE CABINET -- 58 00:02:03,633 --> 00:02:04,066 [ APPLAUSE ] 59 00:02:04,066 --> 00:02:05,500 >> IT IS THE MOST DIVERSE 60 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:06,933 CABINET EVER NOMINATED IN OUR 61 00:02:06,933 --> 00:02:07,700 STATE. 62 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:09,200 IT'S THE MOST DIVERSE CABINET IN 63 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,900 THE COUNTRY. 64 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,866 I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD OF 65 00:02:13,866 --> 00:02:15,000 EVERYBODY BEGINNING WITH MY 66 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,866 PARTNER TO THE LEFT. 67 00:02:16,866 --> 00:02:18,133 I'M CERTAINLY PROUD OF THE TWO 68 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:19,066 OF THEM. 69 00:02:19,066 --> 00:02:20,733 THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE WORKING 70 00:02:20,733 --> 00:02:24,200 DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND CONTINUE 71 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,300 TO DO SO TODAY. 72 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:26,400 [ INAUDIBLE ] 73 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,033 >> I THINK IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT 74 00:02:28,033 --> 00:02:30,300 THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT THESE TWO 75 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:32,133 FOLKS NEED TO BE CONFIRMED. 76 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:33,300 I'M CONFIDENT THEY WILL BE 77 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:35,366 BECAUSE THEY SERVE IT. 78 00:02:35,366 --> 00:02:39,666 >> SWEENEY TOLD NJ ADVANCED 79 00:02:39,666 --> 00:02:40,800 MEDIA, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE SAID 80 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,633 THAT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 81 00:02:43,633 --> 00:02:43,933 RACE. 82 00:02:43,933 --> 00:02:46,233 IT HAS TO DO WITH SCHOOL 83 00:02:46,233 --> 00:02:46,933 FUNDING. 84 00:02:46,933 --> 00:02:49,800 JOINING US TOM MORAN EDITORIAL 85 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,233 PAGE EDITOR OF THE STAR LEDGER. 86 00:02:52,233 --> 00:02:54,666 MICHAEL HILL, CORRESPONDENT FOR 87 00:02:54,666 --> 00:02:57,066 NJ TV NEWS. 88 00:02:57,066 --> 00:02:59,266 KATIE JENNINGS HEALTH CARE 89 00:02:59,266 --> 00:03:01,400 REPORTER FOR POLITICO NJ. 90 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,200 AND BRETT JOHNSON STATE HOUSE 91 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,266 RECORDER FOR NJ ADVANCED MEET 92 00:03:05,266 --> 00:03:05,733 YA. 93 00:03:05,733 --> 00:03:07,100 WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? 94 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:09,700 >> THE REAL SUBSTANTIAL FIGHT IS 95 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:10,900 ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING. 96 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:12,700 THE SCHOOL FUNDING PLAN THAT 97 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:14,666 MURPHY PUT OUT THAT HAD AN 98 00:03:14,666 --> 00:03:16,866 INCREASE BUT DIDN'T FIX WHAT 99 00:03:16,866 --> 00:03:21,900 SWEENEY SEES AS WRONG WITH THE 100 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:22,400 STUNNING FORMULA. 101 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,666 IT HASN'T ADJUSTED WITH 102 00:03:25,666 --> 00:03:26,100 CIRCUMSTANCES. 103 00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:28,000 THEY HAVE MORE OTHER DISTRICTS 104 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,233 GROWING FAST AND ADDING 105 00:03:29,233 --> 00:03:29,866 STUDENTS. 106 00:03:29,866 --> 00:03:32,766 THEY GET NO MORE STATE AID. 107 00:03:32,766 --> 00:03:36,933 THAT'S SEVERELY OUT OF WHACK. 108 00:03:36,933 --> 00:03:40,300 IT'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF 109 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,066 DOLLARS. 110 00:03:42,066 --> 00:03:43,066 THAT IS WHY SWEENEY IS BLOCKING 111 00:03:43,066 --> 00:03:44,266 THESE NOMINATIONS. 112 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:47,333 IT'S REALLY A SYMBOLIC ACT. 113 00:03:47,333 --> 00:03:51,100 CHRIS SURF WAS ACTING 114 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,466 COMMISSIONER FOR A LONG PERIOD. 115 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:55,466 IT'S AN OPENING SALVO IN THIS 116 00:03:55,466 --> 00:03:55,833 FIGHT. 117 00:03:55,833 --> 00:03:58,400 THE COMMISSIONER NOMINEE SAID, 118 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,333 WE'LL GET TO SWEENEY'S CONCERNS 119 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:02,300 ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING IN SIX 120 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:02,766 MONTHS. 121 00:04:02,766 --> 00:04:04,166 THAT'S AFTER THE BUDGET'S 122 00:04:04,166 --> 00:04:04,500 PASSED. 123 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:06,133 HE WAS SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO 124 00:04:06,133 --> 00:04:08,166 DO WHAT SWEENEY WANT THIS IS 125 00:04:08,166 --> 00:04:09,600 YEAR. 126 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,566 >> MURPHY APPEARED TO CATCH 127 00:04:12,566 --> 00:04:19,366 SWEENEY OFF GUARD WHEN HE TURNED 128 00:04:19,366 --> 00:04:22,866 THIS INTO SOMETHING ABOUT TWO 129 00:04:22,866 --> 00:04:26,933 AFRICAN-AMERICANS WITH PHDs. 130 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:28,900 DID HE TRY TO MAKE IT ABOUT 131 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:29,200 RACE? 132 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,633 >> THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 133 00:04:30,633 --> 00:04:31,166 THAT. 134 00:04:31,166 --> 00:04:32,933 THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 135 00:04:32,933 --> 00:04:34,766 MURPHY SAYING THIS FOR 136 00:04:34,766 --> 00:04:36,100 AFRICAN-AMERICAN LAWMAKERS AND 137 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,466 OTHERS IN THE LEGISLATURE TO 138 00:04:38,466 --> 00:04:40,333 APPLY PRESSURE TO SWEENEY TO GET 139 00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:41,000 THIS DONE. 140 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,300 WHAT BETTER WAY TO DO THAT TO IN 141 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:45,800 A SUBTLE WAY RAISE THE RACE 142 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,100 ISSUE? 143 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:48,500 >> I WONDER IF SWEENEY EVEN HAD 144 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:50,333 THAT THOUGHT GOING INTO THIS, 145 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,333 GEE, I'M TAKING ON TWO 146 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:54,500 AFRICAN-AMERICAN CABINET 147 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:55,066 OFFICERS. 148 00:04:55,066 --> 00:04:58,433 I, WHO FOUGHT FOR JOHN WALLACE, 149 00:04:58,433 --> 00:05:00,300 THE LONE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ON THE 150 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:01,400 STATE SUPREME COURT FOR YEARS 151 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,733 AND YEARS AND YEARS. 152 00:05:02,733 --> 00:05:05,766 IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THAT DIDN'T 153 00:05:05,766 --> 00:05:07,133 OCCUR TO HIM WHEN HE TOOK THIS 154 00:05:07,133 --> 00:05:07,700 POSITION. 155 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:09,566 >> I SPOKE TO HIM ALMOST TWO 156 00:05:09,566 --> 00:05:10,233 WEEKS AGO. 157 00:05:10,233 --> 00:05:12,500 THERE WAS A BUDGET HEARING IN 158 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:14,933 SOUTH JERSEY. 159 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:16,700 IN THE INTERVIEW WE HAD WITH 160 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:18,933 HIM, HE WAS ADAMANT ABOUT SCHOOL 161 00:05:18,933 --> 00:05:19,266 FUNDING. 162 00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:21,233 HE WAS NOT HAPPY THAT THIS 163 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:22,233 ACTING EDUCATION COMMISSIONER 164 00:05:22,233 --> 00:05:24,166 WAS TALKING ABOUT DELAYING SOME 165 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:28,966 SOLUTION ON THE SCHOOL FORMULA. 166 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:32,366 I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS 167 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:33,300 AN ISSUE WITH RACE THAT HE WAS 168 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:34,866 HOLDING UP THESE CONFIRMATIONS. 169 00:05:34,866 --> 00:05:36,333 >> I DON'T THINK HE INTENDED IT 170 00:05:36,333 --> 00:05:37,633 TO BE AN ISSUE ABOUT RACE. 171 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:39,300 BUT THE GOVERNOR TURNED IT IN A 172 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,466 WAY THAT PUT THAT ELEMENT INTO 173 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:44,466 PLAY. 174 00:05:44,466 --> 00:05:47,500 KATIE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU 175 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:48,733 RIGHT HERE. 176 00:05:48,733 --> 00:05:53,133 OH YES, IS THIS SWEENEY PLAYING 177 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:53,933 GAMES? 178 00:05:53,933 --> 00:05:57,600 BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT RELATIONS 179 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,900 BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM ARE 180 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:00,300 FROSTY. 181 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,400 OR IS THIS REALLY ABOUT THE 182 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:02,766 SUBSTANCE? 183 00:06:02,766 --> 00:06:03,266 OR BOTH? 184 00:06:03,266 --> 00:06:05,133 >> I THINK IT'S BOTH. 185 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:06,533 I THINK THIS IS POLITICAL 186 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:07,233 POSTURING. 187 00:06:07,233 --> 00:06:10,600 SO THIS IS ABOUT SCHOOL AID BUT 188 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,333 IN THE BIGGER PICTURE ABOUT THE 189 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:12,700 BUDGET. 190 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:15,300 THEY BASICALLY HAVE A LITTLE 191 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,166 OVER TWO MONTHS TO HAMMER OUT 192 00:06:18,166 --> 00:06:20,833 WHAT'S GOING TO GET THROUGH BY 193 00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:22,633 JUNE 30th. 194 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:24,333 SWEENEY HAS TO STAKE HIS GROUND. 195 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:26,633 HE WANTS TO GET HIS PRIORITIES 196 00:06:26,633 --> 00:06:28,366 IN AS WELL. 197 00:06:28,366 --> 00:06:30,133 LOOK, SWEENEY IS THE POLITICAL 198 00:06:30,133 --> 00:06:32,700 OPERATOR WHO'S BEEN THERE THE 199 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:33,033 LONGER. 200 00:06:33,033 --> 00:06:34,833 IF MURPHY WANTS TO GET THIS 201 00:06:34,833 --> 00:06:36,866 BUDGET PASSED THROUGH THE 202 00:06:36,866 --> 00:06:37,800 LEGISLATURE, HE'S GOING TO HAVE 203 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,966 TO NEGOTIATE WITH SWEENEY. 204 00:06:39,966 --> 00:06:41,700 >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE 205 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:43,033 IN SWEENEY'S DIRECTION. 206 00:06:43,033 --> 00:06:45,500 THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO FIX 207 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:47,133 SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS SWEENEY 208 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:49,166 WANTS FIXED. 209 00:06:49,166 --> 00:06:53,066 THEN THEY'LL SEND THE BUDGET TO 210 00:06:53,066 --> 00:06:53,866 MURPHY. 211 00:06:53,866 --> 00:06:55,533 IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T 212 00:06:55,533 --> 00:06:57,066 PROVIDE THE EXTRA MONEY FOR 213 00:06:57,066 --> 00:07:00,500 THESE DISTRICTS THAT ARE 214 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,133 OVERFUNDED, MURPHY CAN ONLY TAKE 215 00:07:02,133 --> 00:07:03,700 MONEY OUT. 216 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:05,500 HE CAN'T PUT MONEY BACK IN. 217 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:10,266 I THINK SWEENEY HAS THE TACTICAL 218 00:07:10,266 --> 00:07:13,533 SWEENEY ADDRESSED THIS, AS WAS 219 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:13,833 I. 220 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:16,033 YOU AND I HAD THE CONCLUSION 221 00:07:16,033 --> 00:07:17,800 THAT IF THAT HAD BEEN CHRIS 222 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,933 CHRISTIE UP THERE, HE WOULD HAVE 223 00:07:19,933 --> 00:07:23,266 UTTERED FIGHTING WORDS AND THAT 224 00:07:23,266 --> 00:07:24,766 MURPHY IS MUCH MORE A DIPLOMAT. 225 00:07:24,766 --> 00:07:26,933 >> THAT WAS THE LEAD TO MY 226 00:07:26,933 --> 00:07:27,633 STORY. 227 00:07:27,633 --> 00:07:29,866 IT'S JUST THAT CHRISTIE WOULD 228 00:07:29,866 --> 00:07:34,200 HAVE BEEN -- YES, SWEENEY, I'LL 229 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,233 GO RIGHT AT YOU. 230 00:07:36,233 --> 00:07:38,500 MURPHY DOES THINGS A LOT MORE 231 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:39,233 SUBTLY. 232 00:07:39,233 --> 00:07:40,433 IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT 233 00:07:40,433 --> 00:07:40,833 ATMOSPHERE. 234 00:07:40,833 --> 00:07:42,900 THE BIG TALK IS THAT MURPHY AND 235 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:44,500 SWEENEY JUST DON'T GET ALONG. 236 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:47,000 IT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF 237 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,333 THINGS. 238 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:49,100 THEY DON'T TALK THAT OFTEN AND 239 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:51,933 THERE'S A LOT OF FROSTINESS 240 00:07:51,933 --> 00:07:52,266 THERE. 241 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,100 IT PERMEATES EVERYTHING. 242 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:55,566 >> THEY BOTH BELIEVE THAT THE 243 00:07:55,566 --> 00:07:58,733 PRESS IS OVERPLAYING THEIR 244 00:07:58,733 --> 00:08:01,433 PERSONAL ANIMOSITY. 245 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:02,966 SWEENEY SAYS WE HAVE A REAL 246 00:08:02,966 --> 00:08:04,800 DIFFERENCE ON SCHOOL FUNDING. 247 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,933 IT'S NOT PERSONAL. 248 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:08,033 I DON'T THINK THEY LIKE EACH 249 00:08:08,033 --> 00:08:08,333 OTHER. 250 00:08:08,333 --> 00:08:10,100 THAT'S CLEAR. 251 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:11,366 BUT I DON'T THINK SWEENEY WANTS 252 00:08:11,366 --> 00:08:13,233 TO SPEND HIS LIFE FINDING WAYS 253 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:14,566 TO ONE UP MURPHY. 254 00:08:14,566 --> 00:08:16,400 I THINK HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO 255 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,166 CHANGE THE SCHOOL FUNDING 256 00:08:22,166 --> 00:08:24,100 FORMULA -- NOT THE FORMULA, THE 257 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:27,300 WAY MONEY IS A LOTTED. 258 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,100 >> MACK FRIEDMAN JOKINGLY WROTE, 259 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:32,900 I'M GETTING MY COT READY FOR THE 260 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:34,133 FOURTH OF JULY TO HAVE NEAR THE 261 00:08:34,133 --> 00:08:35,800 STATE HOUSE WHERE I'M CANCELLING 262 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,766 MY VACATION OR SOMETHING LIKE 263 00:08:37,766 --> 00:08:38,066 THAT. 264 00:08:38,066 --> 00:08:39,800 ARE WE HEADED TOWARD SOME KIND 265 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,566 OF SHOWDOWN IN THIS BUDGET 266 00:08:41,566 --> 00:08:41,900 SEASON? 267 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:44,333 >> I TALKED TO SOMEBODY FROM THE 268 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:45,566 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LAST WEEK. 269 00:08:45,566 --> 00:08:47,733 HE SAID YES, PREPARE FOR IT. 270 00:08:47,733 --> 00:08:51,133 HE SAID WE ARE PREPARING FOR A 271 00:08:51,133 --> 00:08:54,100 VERY LONG JULY 4th WEEKEND. 272 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:55,866 HE SAID, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE 273 00:08:55,866 --> 00:08:58,366 THESE PARTIES COMING TOGETHER TO 274 00:08:58,366 --> 00:08:59,300 RESOLVE THESE ISSUES. 275 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:02,166 >> LET'S LOOK AT HISTORY. 276 00:09:02,166 --> 00:09:05,133 WHEN KORSIGN CAME IN AS 277 00:09:05,133 --> 00:09:07,533 GOVERNOR, YOU HAD DEMOCRATS AND 278 00:09:07,533 --> 00:09:13,933 YOU HAD A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. 279 00:09:13,933 --> 00:09:15,766 >> I THINK THE DEMOCRATS WILL 280 00:09:15,766 --> 00:09:17,933 PRESENT A BUDGET TO MURPHY. 281 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:20,200 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT MURPHY 282 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,200 PRESENTED TO THEM. 283 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,800 THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF, IT'S IN 284 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,633 THEIR BOX NOW. 285 00:09:25,633 --> 00:09:28,466 THEY SEEM PRETTY FUNCTIONAL 286 00:09:28,466 --> 00:09:28,866 THESE DAYS. 287 00:09:28,866 --> 00:09:31,300 >> THE TOP TWO DEMOCRATS OF THE 288 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,866 SENATE BOTH SAY THEY DON'T SEE A 289 00:09:33,866 --> 00:09:35,033 SHUTDOWN COMING. 290 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:36,533 MAYBE TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD 291 00:09:36,533 --> 00:09:38,366 FOR NOW UNTIL WE GET TO LIKE 292 00:09:38,366 --> 00:09:39,033 JUNE 20th. 293 00:09:39,033 --> 00:09:40,633 >> LET'S MOVE ON. 294 00:09:40,633 --> 00:09:41,933 BUDGET HEARINGS BEGAN AT THE 295 00:09:41,933 --> 00:09:51,866 STATE HOUSE THIS WEEK. 296 00:09:51,866 --> 00:09:53,800 SHE SAID WITHOUT NEW TAXES AND 297 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,233 JUST HOLDING EVERYTHING ELSE 298 00:09:56,233 --> 00:09:58,466 STEADY, THIS STATE WOULD BE $161 299 00:09:58,466 --> 00:09:59,600 MILLION SHORT. 300 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,166 >> THIS IS NOT ONLY 301 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:02,600 UNSUSTAINABLE. 302 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,866 IT IS UNACCEPTABLE AND THE 303 00:10:03,866 --> 00:10:05,700 GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING A SERIES 304 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,400 OF NEW REVENUE AND BUDGET 305 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,033 INITIATIVES TO GET OUR FISCAL 306 00:10:10,033 --> 00:10:11,300 HOUSE IN ORDER. 307 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:13,166 >> MICHAEL HILL, LET'S TALK 308 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:15,533 ABOUT THE THRASH POINTS IN THIS 309 00:10:15,533 --> 00:10:16,666 BUDGET. 310 00:10:16,666 --> 00:10:17,900 WHAT ARE THEY? 311 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:20,066 >> I THINK THE RAISING TAXES IS 312 00:10:20,066 --> 00:10:22,900 THE BIG ONE. 313 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:25,166 I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF 314 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:25,933 OPPOSITION TO. 315 00:10:25,933 --> 00:10:27,600 A LOT OF DEMOCRATS AND 316 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,833 REPUBLICANS ARE VOICING 317 00:10:28,833 --> 00:10:29,233 OPPOSITION. 318 00:10:29,233 --> 00:10:30,066 THEY DON'T LIKE THIS. 319 00:10:30,066 --> 00:10:31,733 YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER 320 00:10:31,733 --> 00:10:33,300 WAY TO DO THIS. 321 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:35,500 IT MAY BE TOO EARLY, THEY THINK, 322 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:39,500 TO TALK ABOUT RAISING TAXES. 323 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:40,800 >> THEY SAY WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN 324 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,800 THE APRIL 15th TAX COLLECTIONS 325 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,066 YET. 326 00:10:43,066 --> 00:10:43,833 THAT COULD CHANGE EVERYTHING. 327 00:10:43,833 --> 00:10:45,433 >> THEY HAVEN'T SAID WHAT THEY 328 00:10:45,433 --> 00:10:46,733 WOULD CUT INSTEAD. 329 00:10:46,733 --> 00:10:48,500 DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW ARE PLAYING 330 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:50,900 THE WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES 331 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:51,200 GAME. 332 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,733 BUT YOU'RE NOT HEARING ON THE 333 00:10:52,733 --> 00:10:54,266 OTHER END, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO 334 00:10:54,266 --> 00:10:55,700 DO INSTEAD? 335 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:58,100 BECAUSE THERE IS A FISCAL 336 00:10:58,100 --> 00:10:59,533 PROBLEM IN THE STATE. 337 00:10:59,533 --> 00:11:00,866 THE QUESTION IS, WELL, WHAT 338 00:11:00,866 --> 00:11:02,566 HAPPENS NOW? 339 00:11:02,566 --> 00:11:03,733 WE HAVEN'T HEARD DEMOCRATS' 340 00:11:03,733 --> 00:11:04,100 PLAN. 341 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:06,733 >> THE BULK OF THAT NEW SPENDING 342 00:11:06,733 --> 00:11:08,300 IS SCHOOL FUNDING AND PENSIONS 343 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:09,966 AND NEW JERSEY TRANSIT. 344 00:11:09,966 --> 00:11:12,533 ARE THEY GOING TO CUT INTO 345 00:11:12,533 --> 00:11:12,833 THOSE? 346 00:11:12,833 --> 00:11:13,333 I DON'T THINK SO. 347 00:11:13,333 --> 00:11:14,900 I THINK THEY WILL RAISE TAXES. 348 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:16,966 >> YOU THINK THEY'LL RAISE THE 349 00:11:16,966 --> 00:11:18,500 MILLIONAIRE'S TAX? 350 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,100 >> YES. 351 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:21,100 I HEAR THE WHINING BUT I DON'T 352 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:22,100 SEE AN ALTERNATIVE. 353 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:24,200 >> YOU THINK THEY'LL PUT THE 354 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,066 SALES TAX BACK TO 7%? 355 00:11:26,066 --> 00:11:27,066 >> I DON'T KNOW WHICH EXACTLY 356 00:11:27,066 --> 00:11:28,700 BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET 357 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:30,533 TO MURPHY'S NUMBER OR CLOSE TO 358 00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:32,466 IT, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GET TO 359 00:11:32,466 --> 00:11:34,166 THAT NUMBER TOO. 360 00:11:34,166 --> 00:11:36,666 THEY HAVE TO PRESENT A BUDGET TO 361 00:11:36,666 --> 00:11:37,000 MURPHY. 362 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,633 IF THEY DON'T GO WITH THE 363 00:11:38,633 --> 00:11:40,033 MILLIONAIRE'S TAX THEY HAVE TO 364 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:42,400 CUT THESE THREE BIG INCREASES, 365 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,766 PENSIONS, SCHOOL FUNDING AND NEW 366 00:11:43,766 --> 00:11:44,500 JERSEY TRANSIT. 367 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:45,900 THOSE ARE THINGS I DON'T THINK 368 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:52,100 ANYBODY IS EAGER TO CUT RIGHT 369 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:52,366 NOW. 370 00:11:52,366 --> 00:11:55,366 >> SPENDING IS ANOTHER SLASH 371 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:55,900 POINT. 372 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,633 EVERYBODY IS STILL TALKING ABOUT 373 00:11:58,633 --> 00:12:01,566 MURPHY'S DOWN PAYMENT TOWARD 374 00:12:01,566 --> 00:12:06,933 UNIVERSAL PRE-K AND DOWN PAYMENT 375 00:12:06,933 --> 00:12:09,300 TOWARDS FREE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 376 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:10,700 ARE THOSE THINGS GOING TO 377 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:11,033 SURVIVE? 378 00:12:11,033 --> 00:12:12,433 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 379 00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:14,566 I THOUGHT THE REPUBLICAN 380 00:12:14,566 --> 00:12:16,666 ASSEMBLYWOMAN QUESTIONED LIKE 381 00:12:16,666 --> 00:12:18,600 WHY ARE WE STARTING THESE NEW 382 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,900 PROGRAMS WHEN WE AREN'T 383 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:22,200 ADEQUATELY FUNDING PUBLIC 384 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,800 EDUCATION AND TRANSIT? 385 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,833 I THINK MURPHY WANTS TO PUT A 386 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:28,366 MARKER DOWN AND FILL THESE 387 00:12:28,366 --> 00:12:28,900 BUCKETS. 388 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:30,733 HE'S PUTTING A LITTLE DROP IN 389 00:12:30,733 --> 00:12:31,500 EACH ONE NOW. 390 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:32,966 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER END 391 00:12:32,966 --> 00:12:35,366 AND THE THINGS WE'RE NOT FUNDING 392 00:12:35,366 --> 00:12:37,000 PROPERLY, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE 393 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 SOME SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR HIM. 394 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,966 >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THOSE 395 00:12:40,966 --> 00:12:43,200 MURPHY INITIATIVES, THOSE 396 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,400 STRONGER, FAIRER INITIATIVES? 397 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,966 >> THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT THE 398 00:12:49,966 --> 00:12:51,566 GOVERNOR PRESENTED, IT'S JUST 399 00:12:51,566 --> 00:12:53,633 THE STARTING POINT FOR THE 400 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:54,066 NEGOTIATIONS. 401 00:12:54,066 --> 00:12:57,300 AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALL OF 402 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,333 THESE TINY LITTLE PET PROJECTS 403 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:01,566 THAT THEY NEED TO GET IN THERE. 404 00:13:01,566 --> 00:13:03,366 I THINK ULTIMATELY THE BUDGET IS 405 00:13:03,366 --> 00:13:04,600 CERTAINLY GOING TO LOOK 406 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,633 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MURPHY 407 00:13:06,633 --> 00:13:07,000 PRESENTED. 408 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,233 >> ONLY AT THE MARGINS, 99 OR 409 00:13:13,233 --> 00:13:15,466 98% OF IT WILL BE WHAT HE 410 00:13:15,466 --> 00:13:16,066 PRESENTED. 411 00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:16,700 MAYBE NOT. 412 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:19,200 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 413 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,033 I DON'T THINK THE SCHOOL FUNDING 414 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:22,333 THING IS GOING TO CHANGE. 415 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:24,700 >> YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO 416 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:26,433 PUT MORE MONEY INTO SCHOOL 417 00:13:26,433 --> 00:13:26,766 FUNDING? 418 00:13:26,766 --> 00:13:28,966 >> NO. 419 00:13:28,966 --> 00:13:31,133 THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT THE WAY 420 00:13:31,133 --> 00:13:32,833 SWEENEY WANTS TO FIX IT, WHICH 421 00:13:32,833 --> 00:13:35,333 IS GETTING BACK TO THE FORMULA. 422 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:38,366 >> AND THE TREASURER SAID, WE 423 00:13:38,366 --> 00:13:40,000 AGREE THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THE 424 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,333 FORMULA. 425 00:13:40,333 --> 00:13:42,433 YOU ALL CHANGED IT LAST YEAR, 426 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:44,433 BUT YOU DID IT THROUGH BUDGET 427 00:13:44,433 --> 00:13:44,800 LANGUAGE. 428 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,533 YOU DIDN'T PASS THE STATUTE. 429 00:13:47,533 --> 00:13:49,366 WE WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND 430 00:13:49,366 --> 00:13:54,000 COME UP WITH A STATUTORY CHANGE, 431 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,466 BECAUSE WE'RE BOUND BY STATUTE 432 00:13:55,466 --> 00:13:59,966 TO USE THE FORMULA FROM 2008 AND 433 00:13:59,966 --> 00:14:02,066 NOT GO ALONG WITH HOW YOU 434 00:14:02,066 --> 00:14:04,100 TINKERED WITH IT IN THE BUDGET 435 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:05,000 LANGUAGE LAST JUNE. 436 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,666 A SUBTLE DISTINCTION, BUT ONE 437 00:14:08,666 --> 00:14:12,266 THAT MAY COME INTO PLAY IN THIS 438 00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:13,566 CONVERSATION IN THE NEXT FEW 439 00:14:13,566 --> 00:14:13,900 MONTHS. 440 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:15,600 THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS 441 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,133 THAT ARE FLASH POINTS, I WOULD 442 00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:18,400 SAY. 443 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,866 ONE IS PROPERTY TAX REBATES, THE 444 00:14:20,866 --> 00:14:23,000 OLD HOMESTEAD REBATE PROGRAM. 445 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,000 THE LEGISLATURE CUT IT IN HALF 446 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR 447 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,000 LAST JUNE. 448 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,366 MURPHY AT SOME POINT IN THE 449 00:14:33,366 --> 00:14:36,866 CAMPAIGN TALKED ABOUT RESTORING 450 00:14:36,866 --> 00:14:40,966 ROBUST REBATES, BUT HE'S GOING 451 00:14:40,966 --> 00:14:44,066 ALONG WITH THE 50% CUT THAT THE 452 00:14:44,066 --> 00:14:45,333 LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR AND 453 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:46,633 GETTING SOME CRITICISM FOR IT. 454 00:14:46,633 --> 00:14:48,266 ANYBODY HEAR ANYTHING ON THAT? 455 00:14:48,266 --> 00:14:50,733 ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ON THAT? 456 00:14:50,733 --> 00:14:51,933 >> IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE 457 00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:53,400 BUDGET HEARING THE OTHER DAY 458 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,300 BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY. 459 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:57,000 MURPHY'S TEAM PRETTY MUCH HELD 460 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,666 STEADY AND SAID WE'RE KEEPING IT 461 00:14:58,666 --> 00:15:00,833 AT THE 50% CUT THAT WAS LAST 462 00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:01,200 YEAR. 463 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,700 THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT'S GOING TO 464 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:03,200 HAPPEN. 465 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,266 >> I HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I 466 00:15:05,266 --> 00:15:05,866 THOUGHT OF. 467 00:15:05,866 --> 00:15:08,466 WHAT IS HAPPENING ON MARIJUANA? 468 00:15:08,466 --> 00:15:13,433 MURPHY PUT IN $80 MILLION IN HIS 469 00:15:13,433 --> 00:15:15,533 BUDGET -- 60 MILLION COMING FROM 470 00:15:15,533 --> 00:15:18,833 TAXES ON LEGALIZED RECREATIONAL 471 00:15:18,833 --> 00:15:19,200 MARIJUANA. 472 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,966 THE SENATE HASN'T EVEN HELD A 473 00:15:20,966 --> 00:15:23,366 HEARING ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA. 474 00:15:23,366 --> 00:15:26,233 MURPHY PUT OUT THIS REPORT VYING 475 00:15:26,233 --> 00:15:28,000 TO EXPAND THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA 476 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:28,333 PROGRAM. 477 00:15:28,333 --> 00:15:30,700 THE ASSEMBLY HAS ADVANCED SOME 478 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:32,633 BILLS OUT OF COMMITTEE. 479 00:15:32,633 --> 00:15:34,766 IF ANYTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON 480 00:15:34,766 --> 00:15:36,500 THAT, IT HAS TO START HAPPENING 481 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:36,966 SOON. 482 00:15:36,966 --> 00:15:40,500 >> WELL, MURPHY'S BUDGET ASSUMES 483 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,933 THAT MARIJUANA WILL BE LEGALIZED 484 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:49,233 BY JANUARY 1st OF NEXT YEAR, 485 00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:51,700 2019, AND THAT THEY'LL SOMEHOW 486 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:54,866 GET $60 MILLION IN REVENUE FROM 487 00:15:54,866 --> 00:15:57,466 THE SECOND SIX MONTHS OF THE 488 00:15:57,466 --> 00:15:58,200 FISCAL YEAR. 489 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,833 BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, DOESN'T LOOK 490 00:16:00,833 --> 00:16:02,833 LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 491 00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:03,200 CASE. 492 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,200 >> THEY'RE FAR AWAY OFF RIGHT 493 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,466 NOW. 494 00:16:05,466 --> 00:16:07,100 A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE EITHER NO 495 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,366 OR UNDECIDED. 496 00:16:08,366 --> 00:16:10,800 THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IF 497 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,433 THEY'RE GOING TO PASS IT BY 498 00:16:12,433 --> 00:16:12,933 JANUARY 1. 499 00:16:12,933 --> 00:16:14,933 >> THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES 500 00:16:14,933 --> 00:16:18,166 TO GET REGULATIONS PROMULGATED. 501 00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:20,333 THERE HAS TO BE THE PUBLIC 502 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:21,466 COMMENTARY AND THEN IT HAS TO BE 503 00:16:21,466 --> 00:16:23,100 ON THE BOOKS. 504 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,300 TO GET STUFF UP AND RUNNING, 505 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:26,366 THAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN SIX 506 00:16:26,366 --> 00:16:26,766 MONTHS. 507 00:16:26,766 --> 00:16:28,600 >> NO STATE HAS BEEN ANYWHERE 508 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,700 NEAR THAT FAST. 509 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,166 MASSACHUSETTS IS JUST ABOUT TO 510 00:16:31,166 --> 00:16:32,866 START IN JULY, BUT THEY PASSED 511 00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:34,333 THE BILL OVER A YEAR AGO. 512 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:35,933 IT TAKES TIME TO RAMP THESE 513 00:16:35,933 --> 00:16:36,633 THINGS UP. 514 00:16:36,633 --> 00:16:39,433 >> IF THEY DON'T GET THAT $60 515 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:41,800 MILLION, THEY'LL HAVE TO FIND 516 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,266 $60 MILLION IN CUTS OR MAYBE 517 00:16:44,266 --> 00:16:45,766 THEY'LL PASS THE BUDGET WITH 518 00:16:45,766 --> 00:16:46,933 THAT ASSUMPTION BUILT INTO IT 519 00:16:46,933 --> 00:16:49,166 AND DEAL WITH IT LATER. 520 00:16:49,166 --> 00:16:51,600 >> I THINK MURPHY'S TACTIC HERE 521 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,266 IS THEY'RE HAVE TO AGREE TO 522 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:59,666 LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA 523 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:02,100 OR THEY HAVE TO COME WITH THEIR 524 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:04,166 OWN 60 MILLION. 525 00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:07,200 >> THE GROSS RECEIPTS ENERGY 526 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,100 TAX, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 527 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:09,233 THEY'RE DOING. 528 00:17:09,233 --> 00:17:10,566 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ANY OF YOU 529 00:17:10,566 --> 00:17:11,333 DO EITHER. 530 00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:14,666 BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT 531 00:17:14,666 --> 00:17:17,166 THAT THIS BUDGET -- THE STATE 532 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:21,066 COLLECTS $800 MILLION FROM 533 00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:24,533 UTILITIES THAT IT TURNS OVER TO 534 00:17:24,533 --> 00:17:25,000 MUNICIPALITIES. 535 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,133 AND THIS BUDGET FOR THE FIRST 536 00:17:26,133 --> 00:17:30,333 TIME PUTS THAT MONEY INTO THE 537 00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:31,900 GENERAL FUND INSTEAD OF HAVING 538 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:37,300 IT AS AN OFF-BUDGET ITEM. 539 00:17:37,300 --> 00:17:42,566 MAYORS APPARENTLY ARE VERY UPSET 540 00:17:42,566 --> 00:17:44,366 ABOUT THIS. 541 00:17:44,366 --> 00:17:48,566 THE FACT THAT IT'S COMING OUT OF 542 00:17:48,566 --> 00:17:50,833 THE GENERAL FUND INSTEAD OF A 543 00:17:50,833 --> 00:17:51,966 SEPARATE OFF-BUDGET COLLECTION 544 00:17:51,966 --> 00:17:54,400 BY THE STATE, WHICH ITSELF IS A 545 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:00,300 FAIRLY NEW GIMMICK, SEEMS TO 546 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:03,133 HAVE SOME LAWMAKERS CONCERNED. 547 00:18:03,133 --> 00:18:04,100 ANYBODY HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT 548 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:04,400 THAT? 549 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,433 >> I THOUGHT THE STATE WAS 550 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,066 PILFERING THAT STREAM OF REVENUE 551 00:18:08,066 --> 00:18:09,100 FOR YEARS. 552 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:11,233 SO THIS IS NEWS TO ME THEY'VE 553 00:18:11,233 --> 00:18:12,800 BEEN ACTUALLY TURNING IT OVER. 554 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,433 THE CITIES HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING 555 00:18:14,433 --> 00:18:16,100 ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS. 556 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,200 >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS 557 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,166 PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT I WOULD BE 558 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:24,166 SCARED FOR ANY DEDICATED REVENUE 559 00:18:24,166 --> 00:18:25,633 STREAM TO BE PUT IN THE GENERAL 560 00:18:25,633 --> 00:18:25,933 FUND. 561 00:18:25,933 --> 00:18:27,366 BECAUSE WHEN THINGS GO IN THE 562 00:18:27,366 --> 00:18:29,533 GENERAL FUND, THEY CAN BE USED 563 00:18:29,533 --> 00:18:30,233 FOR ANYTHING. 564 00:18:30,233 --> 00:18:31,500 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 565 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:32,233 LET'S MOVE ON. 566 00:18:32,233 --> 00:18:34,566 A LOT OF BILLS WERE VOTED ON AT 567 00:18:34,566 --> 00:18:35,733 THE STATE HOUSE THURSDAY. 568 00:18:35,733 --> 00:18:37,933 LET'S TALK ABOUT A FEW. 569 00:18:37,933 --> 00:18:39,933 LET'S START WITH THE OUT OF 570 00:18:39,933 --> 00:18:42,133 NETWORK BILL, TEN YEARS IN THE 571 00:18:42,133 --> 00:18:44,100 MAKING, SIX YEARS IN THE 572 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,866 MAKING -- I READ DIFFERENT 573 00:18:45,866 --> 00:18:47,033 NUMBERS THIS MORNING. 574 00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:49,466 HOW SIGNIFICANT IS IT? 575 00:18:49,466 --> 00:18:52,100 >> THIS WAS A HUGE LEGISLATIVE 576 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,466 VICTORY FOR ASSEMBLY SPEAKER 577 00:18:55,466 --> 00:18:56,366 CRAIG COUGHLIN. 578 00:18:56,366 --> 00:18:58,600 FOR HIM IT'S BEEN A MAJOR POLICY 579 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,700 PRIORITY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF 580 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,933 YEARS AND IT HAS ALWAYS STALLED 581 00:19:02,933 --> 00:19:03,200 OUT. 582 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,700 IT HAS NOT GOTTEN TO A FLOOR 583 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:08,000 VOTE. 584 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,066 THIS BILL HELPS PROTECT 585 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:12,533 CONSUMERS FROM THE SURPRISE 586 00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:13,766 BALANCE BILLS THAT YOU WOULD GET 587 00:19:13,766 --> 00:19:15,566 WHEN YOU GO INTO THE HOSPITAL IN 588 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:18,166 AN EMERGENCY SITUATION OR SAY 589 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:21,300 YOU GET AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST THAT 590 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:24,966 YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING TO BE 591 00:19:24,966 --> 00:19:30,966 PART OF YOUR OPERATION -- IF 592 00:19:30,966 --> 00:19:32,933 THEY DISAGREE, THEY HAVE TO GO 593 00:19:32,933 --> 00:19:34,200 INTO THIS ARBITRATION SYSTEM AND 594 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,133 THEY NEED TO WORK IT OUT. 595 00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:38,000 THE STICKING POINT HAS ALWAYS 596 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,300 BEEN WHAT THE ARBITRATION 597 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:40,533 PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. 598 00:19:40,533 --> 00:19:41,633 HOSPITALS AND DOCTORS SAY THIS 599 00:19:41,633 --> 00:19:43,933 IS GOING TO LOWER OUR ABILITY TO 600 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:44,533 NEGOTIATE. 601 00:19:44,533 --> 00:19:48,533 WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AS MUCH 602 00:19:48,533 --> 00:19:50,766 LEVERAGE WHEN WE WANT TO DO 603 00:19:50,766 --> 00:19:52,400 THOSE IN NETWORK RATES. 604 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,333 THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN SO 605 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:55,533 SURPRISING, BECAUSE THE POLL OF 606 00:19:55,533 --> 00:20:03,366 HOSPITALS AND DOCTORS HAS BEEN 607 00:20:03,366 --> 00:20:04,133 SUCH THAT THIS HASN'T EVEN 608 00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:04,733 GOTTEN TO THE FLOOR. 609 00:20:04,733 --> 00:20:06,200 THE NEW JERSEY HOSPITAL 610 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,400 ASSOCIATION CAME ON BOARD. 611 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,133 THIS IS HAPPENING SO QUICKLY. 612 00:20:09,133 --> 00:20:11,266 SO NOW IT'S PASSED BOTH THE 613 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:13,200 ASSEMBLY AND THE SENATE. 614 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,200 WHAT'S PHIL MURPHY GOING TO DO? 615 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,900 THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN HE 616 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:17,766 TALKED A BIG GAME. 617 00:20:17,766 --> 00:20:22,266 I REPEATEDLY ASKED HIM FOR 618 00:20:22,266 --> 00:20:24,133 SPECIFICS. 619 00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:26,133 HE'S NEVER SAID. 620 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:28,866 THERE'S SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS AS 621 00:20:28,866 --> 00:20:30,733 TO WHAT THIS LEGISLATION CAN 622 00:20:30,733 --> 00:20:31,833 ACTUALLY APPLY TO. 623 00:20:31,833 --> 00:20:34,133 THE STATE ONLY REGULATES AROUND 624 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:37,733 30% OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE 625 00:20:37,733 --> 00:20:39,500 MARKET, AND THE OVER 70% ARE 626 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:40,800 FEDERALLY REGULATED. 627 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,600 SO THERE'S THIS BIG OUTSTANDING 628 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,766 LEGAL QUESTION, CAN YOU APPLY 629 00:20:46,766 --> 00:20:51,100 THIS LEGISLATION TO THIS FEDERAL 630 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:51,500 HEALTH PLAN. 631 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,633 >> IT'S VERY COMPLEX. 632 00:20:53,633 --> 00:20:56,100 >> IT REALLY SHOULD SHOCK PEOPLE 633 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:58,733 HOW SLEAZY THIS BEHAVIOR IS. 634 00:20:58,733 --> 00:21:02,333 YOU BREAK YOUR WRIST AND THEY 635 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:04,933 BRING IN AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST OUT 636 00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:09,900 OF NETWORK AND YOU GET CHARGED 637 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:11,133 $20,000. 638 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:13,300 >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE 639 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:15,166 NUCLEAR SUBSIDY BILL, WHICH 640 00:21:15,166 --> 00:21:17,766 YOU'VE BEEN WRITING EDITORIALS 641 00:21:17,766 --> 00:21:18,233 AGAINST. 642 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:20,266 IT PASSED BOTH HOUSES YESTERDAY? 643 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,833 >> THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO MY 644 00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,666 ADVICE AGAIN. 645 00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:24,000 IMAGINE. 646 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,333 PEOPLE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AT 647 00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:27,333 THIS. 648 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:31,600 IT'S $300 MILLION. 649 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,333 IT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE 650 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:36,566 ELECTRICITY BILL. 651 00:21:36,566 --> 00:21:42,800 EK TRIS -- ELECTRICITY BILL IS 652 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:49,200 THE MOST REGRESSIVE WAY. 653 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,766 IT'S $300 MILLION A YEAR. 654 00:21:53,766 --> 00:22:02,400 THE BILL ITSELF IS SO FLAWED. 655 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,033 MOST OF OF THE LEGISLATORS DON'T 656 00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:09,033 UNDERSTAND THE ENERGY MARKET. 657 00:22:09,033 --> 00:22:10,900 THEY ADMIT THAT. 658 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:15,733 >> IS HE GOING TO SIGN BOTH OF 659 00:22:15,733 --> 00:22:17,000 THESE MEASURES? 660 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,533 >> I THINK HE WILL. 661 00:22:17,533 --> 00:22:19,600 THE MOST TELLING LITTLE DETAIL I 662 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,200 CAN GIVE YOU THAT'S NOT 663 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,466 COMPLICATING IS THEY'RE 664 00:22:23,466 --> 00:22:26,100 EXCLUDING THE RATE PAYER 665 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:26,466 ADVOCATE. 666 00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:29,100 >> THAT'S A STATE POSITION. 667 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:29,700 >> RIGHT. 668 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:31,933 WHEN IT COMES TO THIS NUCLEAR 669 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:34,966 SUBSIDY, SHE'S OUT. 670 00:22:34,966 --> 00:22:36,133 UNPRECEDENTED, UNLESS THE 671 00:22:36,133 --> 00:22:37,866 ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE BPU SAY 672 00:22:37,866 --> 00:22:39,866 SHE IS VITAL, WHICH IS A HUGE 673 00:22:39,866 --> 00:22:40,533 LEGAL BARRIER. 674 00:22:40,533 --> 00:22:41,633 THAT SAYS IT ALL. 675 00:22:41,633 --> 00:22:43,666 THE RATE PAYERS ARE GETTING 676 00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:44,433 SCREWED HER. 677 00:22:44,433 --> 00:22:45,900 >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT 678 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:47,800 BILL, OUT OF NETWORK OR ANY 679 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,433 OTHER BILL? 680 00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:51,400 YOU COVERED A VOTER REGISTRATION 681 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:51,700 BILL. 682 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:53,366 >> REPUBLICANS ARE VERY UPSET 683 00:22:53,366 --> 00:22:53,833 ABOUT IT. 684 00:22:53,833 --> 00:22:54,566 >> WHY? 685 00:22:54,566 --> 00:22:56,000 >> BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT IT 686 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,300 OPENS THE DOOR TO MORE FRAUD. 687 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:02,333 THEY THINK THAT THESE 18 STATE 688 00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:04,366 AGENCIES OR SO DON'T 689 00:23:04,366 --> 00:23:04,766 COMMUNICATE. 690 00:23:04,766 --> 00:23:07,066 THIS IS GOING TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. 691 00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:10,500 >> THE BILL WOULD HAVE YOU BE 692 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:11,766 AUTOMATICALLY REGISTERED TO VOTE 693 00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:13,700 WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A DRIVER'S 694 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:16,300 LICENSE OR AT ANY OF THESE OTHER 695 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:18,133 18 AGENCIES THAT YOU HAVE SOME 696 00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:19,433 KIND OF DEALING WITH. 697 00:23:19,433 --> 00:23:20,333 >> RIGHT. 698 00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:20,933 DEMOCRATS THINK THIS IS 699 00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:22,233 WONDERFUL BECAUSE IT OPENS THE 700 00:23:22,233 --> 00:23:29,600 DOOR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. 701 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,900 SENATOR VITALE SAID GET OUT 702 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:34,800 THERE AND ROLL THE DICE AND SEE. 703 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,200 >> GOVERNOR GOING TO SIGN IT? 704 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,666 >> HE SAID THE GOVERNOR IS GOING 705 00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:38,866 TO SIGN IT. 706 00:23:38,866 --> 00:23:39,133 YES. 707 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:39,900 >> ALL RIGHT. 708 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:41,966 IT'S TIME FOR YOUR JOURNALISTIC 709 00:23:41,966 --> 00:23:45,566 HIGH POINTS OF THE WEEK. 710 00:23:45,566 --> 00:23:45,866 BRENT? 711 00:23:45,866 --> 00:23:48,133 >> SWEENEY VERSUS MURPHY. 712 00:23:48,133 --> 00:23:49,800 WATCHING THIS ALL UNFOLD AND 713 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,866 RUNNING AROUND AT 6:00 AT NIGHT 714 00:23:51,866 --> 00:23:54,266 TO GET COMMENTS IS WHAT MAKE 715 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,166 THIS IS JOB FUN. 716 00:23:55,166 --> 00:23:57,566 >> MOVING ON THE OUT OF NETWORK 717 00:23:57,566 --> 00:23:58,666 BILL AFTER SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF 718 00:23:58,666 --> 00:23:59,000 TIME. 719 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,500 >> MICHAEL? 720 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:02,866 >> THIS IS AUTISM AWARENESS 721 00:24:02,866 --> 00:24:03,766 MONTH. 722 00:24:03,766 --> 00:24:09,000 LEARNING FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND 723 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,000 THE PHOENIX CENTER IN NUTLEY, 724 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,033 HOW TO EDUCATE KIDS THAT ARE 725 00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:19,533 AUTISTIC. 726 00:24:19,533 --> 00:24:21,033 IT WAS INCREDIBLE WHAT I FOUND. 727 00:24:21,033 --> 00:24:23,233 >> THE SIGNS OF THE ANTI-TRUMP 728 00:24:23,233 --> 00:24:25,500 WAVE IN NEW JERSEY BEING POTENT, 729 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,700 TO PUT IT MILDLY. 730 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,133 WE HAVE THE BOB MENENDEZ AFTER A 731 00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:30,366 LONG CORRUPTION TRIAL WHICH HE 732 00:24:30,366 --> 00:24:32,300 WAS ACQUITTED BUT HE CAME ACROSS 733 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:37,000 AS LOOKING FAIRLY SHADY IS UP 21 734 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,066 POINTS OVER THE REPUBLICAN, ALL 735 00:24:38,066 --> 00:24:40,166 BECAUSE OF TRUMP. 736 00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:44,733 >> 53% TO 32%. 737 00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,266 >> THE POLITICAL REPORT CHANGED 738 00:24:46,266 --> 00:24:49,833 THE STATUS OF THE MacARTHUR RACE 739 00:24:49,833 --> 00:24:52,033 WHICH IS CONSIDERED A SAFE SEAT. 740 00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:55,500 YOU NOW HAVE FIVE REPUBLICANS 741 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,800 SEATS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE FAVORED 742 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,933 TO WIN TWO AND WOULD WIN UP TO 743 00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:00,600 FOUR. 744 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,800 >> MY HIGH POINT WAS ATTENDING 745 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,000 BACK TO BACK BUDGET HEARINGS. 746 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,400 THEY ARE DRY AS CRAZY, BUT 747 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,033 SOMEHOW AFTER ALL THESE YEARS I 748 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,033 CAN COLLAPSE A FOUR-HOUR HEARING 749 00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:16,700 INTO A THREE-MINUTE NEWS STORY 750 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,766 AND IT'S GRATIFYING. 751 00:25:18,766 --> 00:25:23,366 >>> UP NEXT, THE DEMOCRAT 752 00:25:23,366 --> 00:25:24,866 CANDIDATES FOR CONGRESS SEEKING 753 00:25:24,866 --> 00:25:28,133 TO OUT LANCE IN THE SEVENTH 754 00:25:28,133 --> 00:25:33,966 DISTRICT. 755 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:34,433 NJTVONLINE.ORG. 756 00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:36,166 FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK OR 757 00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:36,500 TWITTER. 758 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,800 I'M MICHAEL ARON. 759 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,333 THANKS FOR WATCHING. 760 00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:42,133 ♪♪♪ 761 00:25:42,133 --> 00:25:43,900 >>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS 762 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:45,900 ROUNDTABLE" WITH MICHAEL ARON IS 763 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