1 00:00:00,766 --> 00:00:02,833 >>> SENATE RACE AND TH 2 00:00:02,833 --> 00:00:03,666 GOVERNOR'S RACE OCCUPY CENTE 3 00:00:03,666 --> 00:00:05,833 STAGE. 4 00:00:05,833 --> 00:00:06,400 >>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS 5 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,266 ROUNDTABLE" WITH MICHAEL ARON IS 6 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:08,400 PROVIDED BY -- 7 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,400 PSE&G. 8 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,266 SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING 9 00:00:11,266 --> 00:00:12,400 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AN 10 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,800 INVESTING IN NEW JERSEY' 11 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,566 FUTURE 12 00:00:18,566 --> 00:00:19,433 >>> PROMOTIONAL SUPPOR 13 00:00:19,433 --> 00:00:22,400 PROVIDED BY -- 14 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,100 NEW JERSEY BUSINESS MAGAZINE 15 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:26,533 REPORTING TO EXECUTIVE AND 16 00:00:26,533 --> 00:00:28,733 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN ALL 2 17 00:00:28,733 --> 00:00:30,000 COUNTIES OF THE GARDEN STATE 18 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:43,600 SINCE 1954 19 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,466 >>> LONEGAN AND BOOKER PUNCH 20 00:00:45,466 --> 00:00:45,866 AWAY 21 00:00:45,866 --> 00:00:47,933 CHRISTIE AND BUONO CONTINU 22 00:00:47,933 --> 00:00:48,833 THEIR SCRAP. 23 00:00:48,833 --> 00:00:50,466 THE SUPREME COURT MAKE 24 00:00:50,466 --> 00:00:51,900 AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES 25 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:53,933 HAPPY AND THE STATE PUSHES FOR 26 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:55,800 MORE DUNES AT THE SHORE. 27 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,433 WELCOME TO "REPORTER 28 00:00:57,433 --> 00:00:57,700 ROUNDTABLE." 29 00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:58,500 I'M MICHAEL ARON 30 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:00,466 WITH US, FOUR HARDWORKIN 31 00:01:00,466 --> 00:01:02,433 MEMBERS OF THE FOURTH ESTATE 32 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:06,266 MARIANNE SPOTO OF NEWARK 33 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:07,566 STAR-LEDGER, SUZETTE PARMLEY O 34 00:01:07,566 --> 00:01:09,300 THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, SAL 35 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,766 RIZZO OF THE NEWARK STAR-LEDGE 36 00:01:11,766 --> 00:01:14,733 AND TERRANCE STOP OF BLOOMBERG 37 00:01:14,733 --> 00:01:14,900 NEWS 38 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,266 BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS, 39 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:18,500 LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE SUPREME 40 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:19,733 COURT DECISION 41 00:01:19,733 --> 00:01:22,700 ORDERING COA TO COME UP WITH NEW 42 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,000 RULES TO PROMOTE AFFORDABL 43 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,766 HOUSING. 44 00:01:25,766 --> 00:01:27,000 MARIANNE, HOW SIGNIFICANT WA 45 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,366 THIS DECISION? 46 00:01:28,366 --> 00:01:30,533 >> THIS WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT 47 00:01:30,533 --> 00:01:31,866 IT'S JUST BEEN ANOTHER STEP IN 48 00:01:31,866 --> 00:01:33,233 EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WIT 49 00:01:33,233 --> 00:01:35,500 COA AND HOW THIS STATE STILL 50 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:37,133 CAN'T GET A FORMULA FO 51 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:38,766 AFFORDABLE HOUSING 52 00:01:38,766 --> 00:01:40,500 SO THEY ARE GOING BACK TO TH 53 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:42,533 DRAWING BOARD ALMOST AGAIN WIT 54 00:01:42,533 --> 00:01:42,800 THIS 55 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,533 >> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE 56 00:01:44,533 --> 00:01:46,300 AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN IN THIS 57 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:46,366 DECISION 58 00:01:46,366 --> 00:01:48,700 >> FOR THE AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN, 59 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:50,066 IT MEANS THE POLICY OF THE STATE 60 00:01:50,066 --> 00:01:51,500 IS STILL TO HAVE THESE 61 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:52,766 COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE 62 00:01:52,766 --> 00:01:54,666 SUPER RICH PEOPLE AND THESE HUGE 63 00:01:54,666 --> 00:01:55,666 MANSIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE 64 00:01:55,666 --> 00:01:57,333 IT OUT WITH LIKE LOW COS 65 00:01:57,333 --> 00:01:58,466 APARTMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CA 66 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,366 WORK IN THOSE SAME COMMUNITIES 67 00:02:00,366 --> 00:02:01,966 IT CAN'T JUST TURN INTO THIS 68 00:02:01,966 --> 00:02:03,200 HUGE COMMUTER STATE WHERE AL 69 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,366 YOU HAVE IS HOUSES 70 00:02:04,366 --> 00:02:05,433 IT'S WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS 71 00:02:05,433 --> 00:02:06,133 STILL SAYING 72 00:02:06,133 --> 00:02:07,633 >> AND THE HOUSING ADVOCATES 73 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:09,266 WERE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY SAY IT'S 74 00:02:09,266 --> 00:02:11,900 GOING TO PROMOTE THE BUILDING OF 75 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,666 MORE UNITS ALL OVER THE STATE. 76 00:02:13,666 --> 00:02:15,566 >> WHO KNOWS IF THAT WILL HAPPEN 77 00:02:15,566 --> 00:02:16,833 ANY TIME SOON. 78 00:02:16,833 --> 00:02:18,200 THERE'S EVEN DOUBT THE CHRISTI 79 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,466 ADMINISTRATION AND COA WILL MEET 80 00:02:20,466 --> 00:02:22,300 HE FIFTH MONTH LINE THEY ASKED 81 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:24,200 FOR TO IMPLEMENT THESE NEW RULES 82 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,933 BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT O 83 00:02:25,933 --> 00:02:27,233 DYSFUNCTION AND NOT A LOT OF 84 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:28,700 AGREEMENT BETWEEN CHRISTIE AND 85 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:29,866 DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS ON TH 86 00:02:29,866 --> 00:02:32,466 RIGHT WAY TO PROCEED 87 00:02:32,466 --> 00:02:34,300 >> CHRISTIE -- THE CHRISTI 88 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:35,466 ADMINISTRATION WAS ON THE LOSING 89 00:02:35,466 --> 00:02:36,233 SIDE OF THE DECISION 90 00:02:36,233 --> 00:02:38,433 IT WAS NOTABLE TO ME THAT TH 91 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:40,666 TWO REPUBLICAN JUSTICES OWEN 92 00:02:40,666 --> 00:02:42,966 AND PATTERSON, DISSENTED AND 93 00:02:42,966 --> 00:02:44,866 SIDED WITH THE GOVERNOR' 94 00:02:44,866 --> 00:02:45,133 POSITION 95 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:46,166 ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE OF TH 96 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,633 TABLE FOLLOWING THIS ONE 97 00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:49,700 >> WELL, I COVERED IT DURING M 98 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:51,300 YEARS IN TRENTON IT'S BEEN GOING 99 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:52,166 ON YEARS AND YEARS 100 00:02:52,166 --> 00:02:53,833 AND I THINK THE ADVOCATES AR 101 00:02:53,833 --> 00:02:56,233 SAYING THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YO 102 00:02:56,233 --> 00:02:58,466 CAN REALLY TRULY DIVERSIFY 103 00:02:58,466 --> 00:03:00,266 CERTAIN COMMUNEITIES THAT AR 104 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:02,066 ALREADY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE AN 105 00:03:02,066 --> 00:03:03,466 HAVE SOME EQUITY AND EQUALITY IN 106 00:03:03,466 --> 00:03:04,533 THERE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO 107 00:03:04,533 --> 00:03:06,433 AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOME OF THES 108 00:03:06,433 --> 00:03:07,033 COMMUNITIES. 109 00:03:07,033 --> 00:03:09,200 BUT AS YOU HAVE SAID, IT'S 110 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,966 PRETTY MUCH KIND OF BEEN AT 111 00:03:11,966 --> 00:03:13,366 QUAGMIRE FOR YEARS 112 00:03:13,366 --> 00:03:14,366 THEY'VE GOT NOW FIVE MONTHS TO 113 00:03:14,366 --> 00:03:16,166 COME UP WITH A NEW FORMULA 114 00:03:16,166 --> 00:03:17,700 >> IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE MT. 115 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:19,100 LAUREL DECISIONS OF THE STAT 116 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:21,233 SUPREME COURT IN 1975, AND THE 117 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:23,400 MT. LAUREL TWO IN 1983, WHICH 118 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,900 WAS AROUND TO COVER. 119 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:26,466 YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND 120 00:03:26,466 --> 00:03:27,366 ANY COMMENT? 121 00:03:27,366 --> 00:03:31,066 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS JUST 122 00:03:31,066 --> 00:03:32,000 REALLY BEEN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN 123 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,533 AND EXPERIENCED, REPORTING - 124 00:03:33,533 --> 00:03:35,000 WHEN I WAS REPORTING AT TH 125 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,666 LOCAL LEVEL UP TO TRENTON, THI 126 00:03:36,666 --> 00:03:38,466 HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH 127 00:03:38,466 --> 00:03:40,100 ISSUE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR ARMS 128 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:40,400 AROUND 129 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,566 >> TOUGH ISSUE FOR US, TOO, TO 130 00:03:42,566 --> 00:03:42,833 EXPLAIN. 131 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:44,133 IT'S SO COMPLICATED. 132 00:03:44,133 --> 00:03:44,733 >> IT IS 133 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:48,333 IT'S AN IN THE WEEDS ISSUE, AN 134 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:50,100 IT'S SORT OF HARD TO EXPLAIN 135 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:51,133 BECAUSE IT'S THE INTERSECTION OF 136 00:03:51,133 --> 00:03:53,066 POLICY AND PUBLIC LIFE IN A WA 137 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,066 THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WE 138 00:03:55,066 --> 00:03:56,066 DON'T ALWAYS SEE 139 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,466 AND, YOU KNOW, IT WILL B 140 00:03:57,466 --> 00:03:58,300 INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY AR 141 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:00,400 ABLE TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND IT 142 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,333 AND WHAT COMES OF IT 143 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:04,600 HOW THEY BASE THE NEW FORMULAS 144 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,466 >> IT REINFORCE THE EXISTENCE OF 145 00:04:06,466 --> 00:04:08,000 COA CREATED BY THE FAIR HOUSIN 146 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,100 ACT OF 1985. 147 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:11,600 THE GOVERNOR TRIED TO ABOLIS 148 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:11,733 COA. 149 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:13,366 THE COURT WOULDN'T LET HIM D 150 00:04:13,366 --> 00:04:13,733 THAT 151 00:04:13,733 --> 00:04:16,466 NOW IT'S KIND OF EMBOLDENING 152 00:04:16,466 --> 00:04:16,700 COA. 153 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:18,900 LET US MOVE ON TO POLITICS 154 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:21,566 SOME POLLS ALL OVER THE PLAC 155 00:04:21,566 --> 00:04:22,166 THIS WEEK. 156 00:04:22,166 --> 00:04:23,866 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLLS 157 00:04:23,866 --> 00:04:28,666 STARTING WITH THE SENATE RACE. 158 00:04:28,666 --> 00:04:33,533 IN THE CAIN UNIVERSITY POLL AN 159 00:04:33,533 --> 00:04:34,666 QUINNIPIAC HE LEADS BY 1 160 00:04:34,666 --> 00:04:37,033 INSPECT THE STOCKTON POLL BY 2 161 00:04:37,033 --> 00:04:39,100 AND IN THE GOVERNORS RACE, 162 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:42,733 CHRISTIE LEADS BUONO BY 18 I 163 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:45,833 THE CAIN POLL, BY 34 I 164 00:04:45,833 --> 00:04:48,466 QUINNIPIAC AND BY 28 I 165 00:04:48,466 --> 00:04:48,800 STOCKTON 166 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,366 WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT -- WHAT 167 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:52,400 DOES IT SAY ABOUT POLLS THAT 168 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,400 THESE ARE SO DIVERGENT 169 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,333 >> I THINK THE RACE IS 170 00:04:56,333 --> 00:04:57,500 ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE POLLS 171 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,266 THE RACES ARE TIGHTENING, WHIC 172 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:01,533 IS NATURAL AS YOU GET CLOSER T 173 00:05:01,533 --> 00:05:02,333 ELECTION DAY 174 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:03,733 BUT POLLS ARE POLLS. 175 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:07,433 IT DEPENDS ON METHODOLOGY, WHA 176 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:09,133 TIME YOU POLLED THESE PEOPLE 177 00:05:09,133 --> 00:05:09,833 >> WHO YOU POLL? 178 00:05:09,833 --> 00:05:11,233 I THINK SOME OF THE POLLS AR 179 00:05:11,233 --> 00:05:12,600 LIKELY VOTERS. 180 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,066 OTHERS ARE JUST REGISTERED 181 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:14,133 VOTERS 182 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:16,033 TIME OF DAY YOU DID IT AND HOW 183 00:05:16,033 --> 00:05:17,066 MANY, WHAT PART OF THE STATE 184 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:18,733 I DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE THAT 185 00:05:18,733 --> 00:05:18,900 IS 186 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:20,666 SOME INDICATION THE RACES AR 187 00:05:20,666 --> 00:05:22,533 TIGHTENING A BIT, BUT NOT MUCH 188 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:24,533 OR NOT ENOUGH FOR BUONO TO - 189 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:28,033 >> THE BUONO CAMP TOOK A LOT O 190 00:05:28,033 --> 00:05:28,766 HEART IN THE 18-POINT GAP. 191 00:05:28,766 --> 00:05:31,833 NOT SO MUCH IN THE 34-POINT GAP. 192 00:05:31,833 --> 00:05:33,300 ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON TH 193 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:33,533 POLLING? 194 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:36,400 >> WELL, I THINK YOU BROUGHT U 195 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,300 AN INTERESTING POINT 196 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:39,300 QUINNIPIAC MOVED IN THIS LATES 197 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,166 ROUND OF POLLS TO LIKELY VOTER 198 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:42,633 FROM JUST THE CATCH-AL 199 00:05:42,633 --> 00:05:43,766 REGISTERED VOTERS. 200 00:05:43,766 --> 00:05:47,266 AND, I MEAN, I THINK IN THE TW 201 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:49,233 RACES YOU SAW WIDELY DIVERGENT 202 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:51,333 SWINGS AND HOW THAT AFFECTED THE 203 00:05:51,333 --> 00:05:51,500 OUTCOMES 204 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:53,266 >> THAT MADE THE MARGINS BIGGER. 205 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:54,266 >> RIGHT 206 00:05:54,266 --> 00:05:55,233 IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS 207 00:05:55,233 --> 00:05:56,700 THE SENATE RACE ENDED UP BEING 208 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:58,033 CLOSER THAN A LOT OF PEOPL 209 00:05:58,033 --> 00:06:00,366 EXPECTED AND THE GOVERNORS RACE, 210 00:06:00,366 --> 00:06:02,500 THAT SHOWED A BIGGER LEAD THAN 211 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:04,100 SOME PEOPLE HAD -- 212 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:05,266 >> VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY 213 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:05,800 VARY 214 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,900 MONMOUTH HAS ALWAYS HAD TH 215 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,166 RACES CLOSER THAN SOME OF THES 216 00:06:09,166 --> 00:06:10,700 OTHER POLLS. 217 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:12,400 RUTGERS EAGLETON HAS CAUSED 218 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,000 LOT OF HEARTBURN AMONG PEOPL 219 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,533 LIKE CHRISTIE AND LONEGA 220 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:16,600 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FAVOR 221 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,500 THEM ALL THAT OFTEN. 222 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:20,200 SO THEY ALL HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT 223 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,466 METHODOLOGIES. 224 00:06:20,466 --> 00:06:22,133 WHEN THE QUINNIPIAC POLL CAM 225 00:06:22,133 --> 00:06:23,766 OUT FOR LONEGAN SHOWING ONLY 1 226 00:06:23,766 --> 00:06:25,700 POINTS BEHIND BOOKER, THEY WER 227 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:28,066 HEARTENED BY THAT, TOO, AND SAID 228 00:06:28,066 --> 00:06:29,666 QUINNIPIAC REALLY DO A GOOD JO 229 00:06:29,666 --> 00:06:31,033 BECAUSE ALL THE REST OF THEM 230 00:06:31,033 --> 00:06:32,966 ONLY TALK TO DEMOCRATS 231 00:06:32,966 --> 00:06:34,900 >> LONEGAN EARLY IN THE WEEK WAS 232 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:36,600 MAKING MUCH OF THE FACT THAT 233 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,033 CHRIS -- THAT -- HARD TO KEE 234 00:06:42,033 --> 00:06:43,233 THESE RACES STRAIGHT 235 00:06:43,233 --> 00:06:45,000 THAT CORY BOOKER WAS OUT O 236 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,866 STATE FUND-FRAIRGS A WEEK. 237 00:06:46,866 --> 00:06:52,200 ON MONDAY, BOOKER ATTENDED A BIG 238 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,200 HOLLYWOOD -- 239 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,366 LONEGAN HELD HIS OWN 240 00:06:57,366 --> 00:06:58,933 COUNTEREVENT IN NEWARK IN TH 241 00:06:58,933 --> 00:07:00,833 SOUTH WARD AT A RESTAURANT WHERE 242 00:07:00,833 --> 00:07:02,233 APPARENTLY HE ROLLED OUT RED 243 00:07:02,233 --> 00:07:02,466 CARPET 244 00:07:02,466 --> 00:07:03,533 LET'S HEAR HIM 245 00:07:03,533 --> 00:07:04,900 >> I'M GOING TO REPRESENT NE 246 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,233 JERSEY, NOT HOLLYWOOD, MIKE. 247 00:07:07,233 --> 00:07:08,933 >> PUTTING RED CARPET ON THE 248 00:07:08,933 --> 00:07:09,200 STREET 249 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,733 >> IT'S JUST LIKE A HOLLYWOO 250 00:07:10,733 --> 00:07:11,100 EVENT. 251 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:12,033 AND, YEAH, LET'S PULL ATTENTIO 252 00:07:12,033 --> 00:07:14,333 TO THE FACT THAT CORY BOOKER'S 253 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:15,566 PARADING AROUND HOLLYWOOD AN 254 00:07:15,566 --> 00:07:16,633 SAN FRANCISCO WITH MATT DAMO 255 00:07:16,633 --> 00:07:17,600 AND BEN AFFLECK. 256 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,866 I'M GOING TO BE WITH THE WORKING 257 00:07:18,866 --> 00:07:19,866 PEOPLE OF NEWARK 258 00:07:19,866 --> 00:07:22,600 AND, OF COURSE, NEW JERSEY 259 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,533 RUNNING FOR OFFICE 260 00:07:23,533 --> 00:07:24,766 AM I MOCKING HIM 261 00:07:24,766 --> 00:07:25,366 YEAH, ABSOLUTELY 262 00:07:25,366 --> 00:07:26,900 I THINK IT'S AN OUTRAGE HE'S OUT 263 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:28,200 THERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR A WEEK 264 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,033 WHILE NEWARK IS CONVULSING WIT 265 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:31,133 VIOLENT CRIME AND FAILED 266 00:07:31,133 --> 00:07:32,566 UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND KIDS AR 267 00:07:32,566 --> 00:07:33,666 DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL 268 00:07:33,666 --> 00:07:35,766 >> YOU THINK HE'S MAKING ANY 269 00:07:35,766 --> 00:07:36,533 HEADWAY WITH THAT ARGUMENT 270 00:07:36,533 --> 00:07:38,666 >> HE'S GETTING HIS NAME OUT 271 00:07:38,666 --> 00:07:38,933 THERE. 272 00:07:38,933 --> 00:07:41,066 HE'S USING EVERY ARGUMENT HE 273 00:07:41,066 --> 00:07:42,866 CAN, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF 274 00:07:42,866 --> 00:07:43,633 NAME RECOGNITION 275 00:07:43,633 --> 00:07:44,733 THAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT HE' 276 00:07:44,733 --> 00:07:45,833 LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW. 277 00:07:45,833 --> 00:07:47,966 AND IF PEOPLE CAN JUST RECOGNIZE 278 00:07:47,966 --> 00:07:50,300 THAT AND PULL THE LEVER FOR HIM, 279 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,033 THAT'S WHAT HE IS HOPING 280 00:07:52,033 --> 00:07:53,266 >> OTHER THOUGHTS? 281 00:07:53,266 --> 00:07:56,233 >> I THINK HE'S CLEARLY TRYING 282 00:07:56,233 --> 00:07:58,500 TO SHOW BOOKER IS OUT OF TOUCH 283 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,633 WITH THE COMMON PERSON, AND HE 284 00:08:00,633 --> 00:08:03,033 MADE, YOU KNOW, HE MAY LOOK LIKE 285 00:08:03,033 --> 00:08:05,766 HE WAS HAVING A FRIED CHICKEN AT 286 00:08:05,766 --> 00:08:08,333 THIS BANQUET HALL AND BOOKER I 287 00:08:08,333 --> 00:08:10,400 OUT MULLING AROUND WIT 288 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,700 BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES IN 289 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:11,966 CALIFORNIA 290 00:08:11,966 --> 00:08:13,233 HE'S NOT IN TOUCH WITH WHA 291 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:14,700 COMMON PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT. 292 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:16,200 JOBS, CRIME, UNEMPLOYMENT. 293 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,600 >> SOMEONE CLOSE TO CORY BOOKE 294 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,966 SAID TO ME, PEOPLE LIKE LEADER 295 00:08:20,966 --> 00:08:23,766 WHO HAVE FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES. 296 00:08:23,766 --> 00:08:25,633 IT'S GOOD FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS 297 00:08:25,633 --> 00:08:29,533 IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MAR 298 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:31,066 ZUCKERBERG AND BEN AFFLECK AND 299 00:08:31,066 --> 00:08:32,300 MATT DAMON AND SO ON 300 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:33,566 >> THE QUESTION IS, IS IT GOOD 301 00:08:33,566 --> 00:08:35,900 FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY 302 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:39,600 MORE THAN IT IS. 303 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,133 WHOSE INTEREST WILL WIN OUT IF 304 00:08:41,133 --> 00:08:42,300 THEY COME INTO A COLLISION 305 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:42,766 COURSE 306 00:08:42,766 --> 00:08:45,066 THAT'S THE QUESTION A LOT OF 307 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:46,366 PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THOS 308 00:08:46,366 --> 00:08:47,733 FRIENDSHIPS ALTHOUGH I GRE 309 00:08:47,733 --> 00:08:49,666 ZUCKER BERG GAVE $100 MILLION TO 310 00:08:49,666 --> 00:08:51,366 NEWARK SCHOOLS AND NO ON 311 00:08:51,366 --> 00:08:52,666 QUESTIONS THAT'S MAYBE GOING T 312 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:53,733 YIELD POSITIVE RESULTS 313 00:08:53,733 --> 00:08:54,800 HE'S ALREADY STARTED TO CHANGE 314 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,300 THE DYNAMIC THERE. 315 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:58,166 BUT, YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING. 316 00:08:58,166 --> 00:08:59,900 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOU 317 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:00,933 WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE 318 00:09:00,933 --> 00:09:02,666 SENATE RACE, I THINK LONEGAN HAS 319 00:09:02,666 --> 00:09:05,333 BEEN SUCCESSFUL KIND OF PUTTIN 320 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:05,966 BOOKER ON THE DEFENSIVE. 321 00:09:05,966 --> 00:09:07,966 HE HAS A HARD TIME GETTING HIS 322 00:09:07,966 --> 00:09:10,433 MESSAGE OUT UNFILTERED WITHOUT 323 00:09:10,433 --> 00:09:12,166 HAVING TO RESPOND DAY AFTER DAY. 324 00:09:12,166 --> 00:09:12,866 >> BOOKER? 325 00:09:12,866 --> 00:09:13,633 >> YEAH. 326 00:09:13,633 --> 00:09:15,000 >> WITHOUT HAVING TO RESPOND DAY 327 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,633 AFTER DAY TO THESE ACCUSATIONS 328 00:09:16,633 --> 00:09:18,700 LONEGAN IS MAKING IN NEWARK AN 329 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:18,833 ELSEWHERE. 330 00:09:18,833 --> 00:09:20,600 >> THE OTHER THING IS LONEGAN, 331 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,066 HAVING BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE 332 00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:23,566 LONEGAN IS A GOOD SHOWMAN. 333 00:09:23,566 --> 00:09:26,100 I MEAN, I THINK MICHAEL, YOU'L 334 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:27,600 REMEMBER, MARIANNE, YOU MIGH 335 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,000 REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHE 336 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,100 HE ROLLED A GARBAGE TRUCK UP O 337 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:32,800 THE STEPS -- RIGHT UP TO THE 338 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,133 STEPS OF THE STATEHOUSE TO SAY 339 00:09:34,133 --> 00:09:37,066 THAT NEW JERSEY WAS SELLING JUNK 340 00:09:37,066 --> 00:09:37,200 BONDS. 341 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,300 THE HOLLYWOOD RED CARPET 342 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:41,333 HE'S GOT A GOOD WAY OF JUST AS 343 00:09:41,333 --> 00:09:42,566 MARIANNE SAYS, GETTING HIS NAM 344 00:09:42,566 --> 00:09:44,566 OUT AND CREATING THAT NAME 345 00:09:44,566 --> 00:09:44,900 RECOGNITION. 346 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:46,800 >> DRESS UP AS A CHICKEN ONC 347 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,266 TO - 348 00:09:47,266 --> 00:09:48,233 >> HE DRESSED UP 349 00:09:48,233 --> 00:09:51,600 >> HE HAD AN AID DRESS UP AS A 350 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,433 CHICKEN ONCE 351 00:09:52,433 --> 00:09:53,766 >> WHETHER THIS TRANSLATES INT 352 00:09:53,766 --> 00:09:56,600 ANY VOTES, I DON'T KNOW. 353 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,633 I CAN'T SAY. 354 00:09:57,633 --> 00:10:01,700 IT'S CERTAINLY - 355 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:04,366 >> FREE MEDIA BEING EARNED B 356 00:10:04,366 --> 00:10:05,333 CLEVERNESS 357 00:10:05,333 --> 00:10:05,966 >> RIGHT 358 00:10:05,966 --> 00:10:07,800 >> CORY BOOKER HAD AN EVENT WHEN 359 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,700 HE DID GET BACK TO TOWN, HE GO 360 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:12,266 BACK ON TUESDAY. 361 00:10:12,266 --> 00:10:13,666 GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK O 362 00:10:13,666 --> 00:10:14,833 MASSACHUSETTS WAS IN FOR HIM O 363 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:17,000 TUESDAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T APPEA 364 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,500 TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH PATRICK DID 365 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,900 FOUR EVENTS IN NEW JERSEY. 366 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:24,466 THE NEXT DAY, BOOKER DID APPEA 367 00:10:24,466 --> 00:10:27,300 WITH GOVERNOR CHRISTIE AT AN 368 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:28,733 EVENT WHERE THEY CUT A RIBBON AT 369 00:10:28,733 --> 00:10:29,866 A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROJEC 370 00:10:29,866 --> 00:10:31,733 RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN 371 00:10:31,733 --> 00:10:33,200 NEWARK CALLED TEACHERS VILLAGE 372 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,633 AN IMPRESSIVE PROJECT. 373 00:10:36,633 --> 00:10:41,500 AND WHEN BOOKER SPOKE, HE, 374 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:43,033 TOWARD THE END OF HIS SPEECH 375 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:45,533 THAT DAY, HE EXHIBITED SOME OF 376 00:10:45,533 --> 00:10:47,033 THE SOARING RHETORIC HE' 377 00:10:47,033 --> 00:10:49,400 CAPABLE OF AND THAT HE'S KIND OF 378 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,000 FAMOUS FOR AND HERE'S A LITTLE 379 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 SNIP-IT OF IT. 380 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,666 >> FREEDOM IN AMERICA NOW MORE 381 00:10:53,666 --> 00:10:57,033 THAN EVER IS NOT ABOUT PHYSICA 382 00:10:57,033 --> 00:10:57,333 BONDAGE. 383 00:10:57,333 --> 00:11:00,500 IT'S ABOUT LIBERATING THE MIND 384 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:01,366 OF OUR PEOPLE. 385 00:11:01,366 --> 00:11:04,266 TOO MANY OF OUR CHILDREN ARE 386 00:11:04,266 --> 00:11:07,533 TRAPPED IN THAT CONFINING CELL 387 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:09,533 OF MEDIOCRITY AND IGNORANC 388 00:11:09,533 --> 00:11:12,533 BECAUSE WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE NO 389 00:11:12,533 --> 00:11:15,966 PROVIDING THEM A QUALITY 390 00:11:15,966 --> 00:11:16,333 EDUCATION. 391 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:18,000 THIS IS THE KAUFL OUR TIME AND 392 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,966 OUR GENERATION 393 00:11:18,966 --> 00:11:21,166 >> THAT'S THE KIND OF SPEECH 394 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:23,433 THAT HE IS GOING TO GIVE ON TH 395 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:26,166 SENATE FLOOR THIS DAY IF THE 396 00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:29,500 POLLS ARE CORRECT. 397 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:33,566 HOW IS HE DOING. 398 00:11:33,566 --> 00:11:35,200 >> CHRISTIE HAD INTERESTING -- 399 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,533 THEY BOTH HIGHLIGHTED THEI 400 00:11:37,533 --> 00:11:40,000 AFFINITY FOR EACH OTHER OR THEIR 401 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,800 COMMON CAUSES. 402 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,366 >> BOOKER SAID I'M GOING TO GIVE 403 00:11:42,366 --> 00:11:43,766 SOME GOV LOVE HERE 404 00:11:43,766 --> 00:11:44,533 >> EXACTLY 405 00:11:44,533 --> 00:11:46,000 I THINK ALSO TO GET TO YOU 406 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,033 POINT ABOUT THE RHETORIC AND THE 407 00:11:48,033 --> 00:11:48,200 SPEECHES 408 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,333 YOU REALLY SAW IT IN THE 409 00:11:49,333 --> 00:11:49,900 SPEECHES 410 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:51,766 I FORGET 411 00:11:51,766 --> 00:11:54,066 BOOKER SPOKE FOR FIVE OR SIX 412 00:11:54,066 --> 00:11:55,533 MINUTES AND CHRISTIE WAS 9 413 00:11:55,533 --> 00:11:55,766 SECONDS. 414 00:11:55,766 --> 00:11:56,700 HE WAS - 415 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:58,033 >> CHRISTIE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE 416 00:11:58,033 --> 00:11:58,966 TALKING MUCH THAT DAY. 417 00:11:58,966 --> 00:12:01,000 >> YOU SAW THE TWO STYLES RIGH 418 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,033 AT WORK RIGHT THERE. 419 00:12:02,033 --> 00:12:03,433 THEY BOTH ACCOMPLISHED WHAT -- 420 00:12:03,433 --> 00:12:06,333 >> CHRISTIE IS MUCH MORE 421 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:08,033 TALKATIVE THAN HE WAS THAT DAY 422 00:12:08,033 --> 00:12:09,100 EITHER WASN'T FEELING WELL O 423 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:10,633 THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY SPEECHE 424 00:12:10,633 --> 00:12:13,566 BY 6-YEAR-OLDS AND 12-YEAR-OLD 425 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:14,333 LEADING UP TO -- 426 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:16,166 >> HE'S NOT A WORD WASTER. 427 00:12:16,166 --> 00:12:17,733 HE DOESN'T SPEAK JUST TO B 428 00:12:17,733 --> 00:12:17,866 HEARD. 429 00:12:17,866 --> 00:12:19,600 HE USUALLY DOESN'T WANT TO SAY 430 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,100 ANYTHING UNLESS HE GETS IN, GETS 431 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:25,733 OUT AND HAS SOMETHING -- 432 00:12:25,733 --> 00:12:28,033 >> THEY SAT TOGETHER IN TH 433 00:12:28,033 --> 00:12:28,400 AUDIENCE 434 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,300 THEY CUT THE RIBBON TOGETHER 435 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:34,700 BUT THEY ARE EACH BACKING TH 436 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:37,766 OTHER'S OPPONENT WITH A KIND O 437 00:12:37,766 --> 00:12:44,500 WINK AND A NOD IS WHAT YOU 438 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,833 IMAGINE. 439 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:48,300 >> ROWAN CROSS PARTY LINES AND 440 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:49,633 WORK ACROSS THE AISLE. 441 00:12:49,633 --> 00:12:51,166 FOR ME THROUGHOUT THAT SPEECH, 442 00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:52,300 NO MATTER OUR CONFERENCES, 443 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:55,533 BETWEEN ME AND THE GOVERNOR, ONE 444 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:56,166 EATS MEAT. 445 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:57,733 THE OTHER IS VEGETARIAN. 446 00:12:57,733 --> 00:12:59,500 >> HE SAID WE HAVE OUR 447 00:12:59,500 --> 00:12:59,733 DIFFERENCES. 448 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,900 HE EATS MEAT, I'M VEGAN. 449 00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:04,433 HE LIKES TO DRINK A BEER WHILE 450 00:13:04,433 --> 00:13:05,566 WATCHING A GAME. 451 00:13:05,566 --> 00:13:08,733 I DRINK GREEN TEA. 452 00:13:08,733 --> 00:13:11,000 AND THEN THERE WAS A PUNCH LINE, 453 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 BUT I -- 454 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,733 >> HE'S LOSING WEIGHT AND I' 455 00:13:15,733 --> 00:13:16,433 GAINING WAIT 456 00:13:16,433 --> 00:13:17,466 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 457 00:13:17,466 --> 00:13:20,200 THAT WAS THE PUNCH LINE. 458 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,366 >> IT DOES MAKE THES 459 00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:23,500 ENDORSEMENTS SEEM A LITTLE 460 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:25,566 AWKWARD BECAUSE, I THINK, 461 00:13:25,566 --> 00:13:26,666 PHRASE LIKE I'M GOING TO SHO 462 00:13:26,666 --> 00:13:28,566 SOME GOV LOVE TODAY IN FRONT O 463 00:13:28,566 --> 00:13:30,866 THE CAMERAS ON CHRISTIE LIKE 464 00:13:30,866 --> 00:13:32,200 THAT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT KIND 465 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,200 OF NULLIFIES HIS SUPPORT O 466 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,333 BUONO. 467 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:37,000 >> THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S AL 468 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,466 WITH A WINK AND A NOD. 469 00:13:38,466 --> 00:13:40,533 >> AND THE SAME FOR LONEGAN AN 470 00:13:40,533 --> 00:13:40,766 CHRISTIE 471 00:13:40,766 --> 00:13:42,766 WE KNOW THEY HAVE SOME HISTORY 472 00:13:42,766 --> 00:13:43,900 THERE THAT WASN'T VERY 473 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:44,933 COMFORTABLE EITHER 474 00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:47,066 >> WHEN YOU SAY THE OPTICS 475 00:13:47,066 --> 00:13:48,900 IT WAS -- NOT SAYING IT WA 476 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:50,133 DESIGNED TO BE, BUT IT TURNE 477 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,033 INTO A VERY POLITICAL EVENT IN 478 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:53,866 THAT YOU HAD THE GOVERNOR AN 479 00:13:53,866 --> 00:13:55,466 CHRISTIE WHO ARE ON OPPOSITE 480 00:13:55,466 --> 00:13:57,800 SIDES OF EACH OTHER'S RACES. 481 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,900 YOU HAD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 482 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:03,366 LOOKING TO SUCCEED BOOKER WERE 483 00:14:03,366 --> 00:14:03,766 THERE. 484 00:14:03,766 --> 00:14:06,600 YOU HAD JOE DEE PRESIDING OVER 485 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,266 THE WHOLE THING. 486 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:11,600 THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICA 487 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,100 UNDERCURRENT OR POLITICA 488 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,400 ELEMENT TO IT. 489 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,733 EVEN IN THEIR SPEECHES THEY BOTH 490 00:14:14,733 --> 00:14:16,233 SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. 491 00:14:16,233 --> 00:14:17,733 >> THERE CERTAINLY WAS 492 00:14:17,733 --> 00:14:19,900 WITH THE THREAT OF A GOVERNMEN 493 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,233 SHUTDOWN LOOMING IN WASHINGTON 494 00:14:21,233 --> 00:14:26,166 D.C. AND THE REPUBLICANS DOW 495 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:29,733 THERE, BEING BLAMED LARGELY FO 496 00:14:29,733 --> 00:14:31,300 IT, DOES ANY OF THAT SPILL OVE 497 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:32,533 ON TOLON GAN 498 00:14:32,533 --> 00:14:35,000 >> WELL, CHRISTIE'S MAKING SUR 499 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,666 THAT DOESN'T SPILL ON TO ANY 500 00:14:36,666 --> 00:14:36,833 RACE 501 00:14:36,833 --> 00:14:38,066 SINCE HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN IN 502 00:14:38,066 --> 00:14:40,300 THERE AND SAID THAT ANYONE 503 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,966 WHO -- ANYONE IN WASHINGTON, ANY 504 00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:45,733 REPUBLICAN IN WASHINGTON WHO 505 00:14:45,733 --> 00:14:46,733 LETS THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN IS 506 00:14:46,733 --> 00:14:48,500 BEING IRRESPONSIBLE. 507 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:49,866 >> HE SAID THAT JUST YESTERDAY 508 00:14:49,866 --> 00:14:50,400 I BELIEVE. 509 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,033 >> RIGHT 510 00:14:51,033 --> 00:14:52,133 >> OR THURSDAY 511 00:14:52,133 --> 00:14:55,433 SO THAT'S A REBUKE TO TH 512 00:14:55,433 --> 00:14:56,800 REPUBLICANS IN THE NEW JERSE 513 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,266 DELEGATION IN THE HOUSE WH 514 00:14:59,266 --> 00:15:02,500 MIGHT VOTE FOR -- OR WHO ALREADY 515 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:04,433 VOTED FOR THE -- FOR DEFUNDING 516 00:15:04,433 --> 00:15:06,633 OBAMA CARE 517 00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:07,000 >> OR SOME PEOPLE COUL 518 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,366 INTERPRET IT AS HE'S GOING O 519 00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:09,800 THE NATIONAL STAGE AGAIN AND 520 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,766 TALKING TO REPUBLICANS 521 00:15:12,766 --> 00:15:13,000 NATIONALLY 522 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,633 YOU KNOW - 523 00:15:14,633 --> 00:15:16,933 >> HE'S STAKING OUT HIS POSITION 524 00:15:16,933 --> 00:15:19,833 ON THE SIDE OF THE MODERATES 525 00:15:19,833 --> 00:15:20,400 BASICALLY, RIGHT 526 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,533 >> UH-HUH. 527 00:15:21,533 --> 00:15:23,500 >> HOW ABOUT LONEGAN 528 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,633 LONEGAN TOLD ME IN THE INTERVIEW 529 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,333 MONDAY THAT I'M NOT AFRAID OF 530 00:15:27,333 --> 00:15:28,300 GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. 531 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:31,033 WE SHOULD HAVE THIS DEBATE, THIS 532 00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:32,333 DISCUSSION OF ECONOMIC POLICY. 533 00:15:32,333 --> 00:15:34,733 BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THA 534 00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:36,133 IF THE WHOLE THING REALLY BLOW 535 00:15:36,133 --> 00:15:40,833 UP OVER THE NEXT MONTH THAT IT 536 00:15:40,833 --> 00:15:42,900 WON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF EFFECT 537 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:45,133 HERE IN NEW JERSEY IN BOTH THESE 538 00:15:45,133 --> 00:15:45,333 RACES. 539 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:46,033 WHAT DO YOU THINK? 540 00:15:46,033 --> 00:15:47,866 >> THE WAY THESE THINGS USUALL 541 00:15:47,866 --> 00:15:49,700 PLAY OUT IS THEY GET -- BOTH 542 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,633 PARTIES GET A LOT OF TRACTIO 543 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:53,400 OUT OF THE TENSION AND FRICTION. 544 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,800 IT HAPPENED WITH THE BUDGET. 545 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,966 THE FEDERAL BUDGET WITH TH 546 00:15:56,966 --> 00:15:57,266 FURLOUGHS. 547 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:58,766 IT PLAYS OUT EVERY DAY ON TH 548 00:15:58,766 --> 00:16:00,100 NIGHTLY NEWS AND EACH PART 549 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:01,066 BLAMES EACH OTHER. 550 00:16:01,066 --> 00:16:02,900 THEY BOTH GET TRACTION OUT O 551 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:03,100 IT 552 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:04,500 THERE'S A LOT OF SUSPENSE. 553 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:06,100 USUALLY BY THE END, IT'S 554 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:06,366 RESOLVED 555 00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:09,400 >> EXCEPT THE DEBT CEILING THING 556 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,300 COMES TO A HEAD ON OCTOBER 17th. 557 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,400 THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE TH 558 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,800 BOOKER/LONEGAN ELECTION. 559 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,100 LET US MOVE ON TO THE GOVERNOR'S 560 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:16,833 RACE ITSELF. 561 00:16:16,833 --> 00:16:19,200 GOVERNOR CHRISTIE PUT OUT TV A 562 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,133 NUMBER THREE THIS WEEK 563 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:22,566 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 564 00:16:22,566 --> 00:16:25,466 >> BARBARA BUONO 565 00:16:25,466 --> 00:16:27,100 JON CORZINE'S BUDGET CHAIR NOW 566 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:28,400 RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR 567 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,500 BUONO VOTED TO RAISE 154 TAXES 568 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:31,300 AND FEES 569 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:35,533 AND VOTED TO RAISE HER OWN PAY 570 00:16:35,533 --> 00:16:36,033 40%. 571 00:16:36,033 --> 00:16:37,200 HIGHER INCOME TAXES. 572 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,133 HIGHER SALES TAX 573 00:16:38,133 --> 00:16:40,333 HIGHER TAXES ON HEALTH CARE. 574 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,200 HIGHER PAY FOR TRENTON 575 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,133 POLITICIANS. 576 00:16:43,133 --> 00:16:45,366 BUONO VOTED FOR ALL OF THEM. 577 00:16:45,366 --> 00:16:48,500 BARBARA BUONO, 154 HIGHER TAXE 578 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:49,333 FOR US 579 00:16:49,333 --> 00:16:52,866 A PAY RAISE FOR HERSELF. 580 00:16:52,866 --> 00:16:54,466 >> WHAT STRIKES ME IS THAT IT' 581 00:16:54,466 --> 00:16:56,233 THE SAME AD THAT WE RAN LAST 582 00:16:56,233 --> 00:16:58,733 WEEK EXCEPT IT WAS YELLOW LAST 583 00:16:58,733 --> 00:17:01,100 WEEK AND THEY'VE TWEAKED IT TO 584 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:03,600 TAKE HE TWO THINGS THAT WERE 585 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,100 MOST TALKED ABOUT IN THE AD LAST 586 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:06,400 WEEK 587 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,833 THE 154 TAXES IN HER CAREER AN 588 00:17:09,833 --> 00:17:11,733 THE PAY RAISE THAT SHE VOTED AND 589 00:17:11,733 --> 00:17:14,100 THEY PUT THEM TOGETHER UP TOP AT 590 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:14,733 THE AD 591 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:16,533 OTHERWISE, TO ME, IT'S THE SAM 592 00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:16,800 AD 593 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,033 WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE TO SA 594 00:17:18,033 --> 00:17:19,700 ABOUT THAT, OR THE AD? 595 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,233 >> THAT'S WHAT THEY -- THE 596 00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:22,300 CHRISTIE ADMINISTRATION -- THE 597 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:23,666 CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN GOING 598 00:17:23,666 --> 00:17:25,433 FOR ALL ALONG. 599 00:17:25,433 --> 00:17:27,933 JUST HITTING, FIRST, IF YO 600 00:17:27,933 --> 00:17:29,233 NOTICE, THEY'VE STILL CONNECTE 601 00:17:29,233 --> 00:17:31,300 HER WITH JON CORZINE 602 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,400 AND THERE'S STILL TALKING ABOU 603 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,266 TAX INCREASES AND IF YOU WAN 604 00:17:35,266 --> 00:17:36,666 THESE TAX INCREASES FO 605 00:17:36,666 --> 00:17:37,733 YOURSELF, THEN VOTE FOR THEM 606 00:17:37,733 --> 00:17:39,166 BUT IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU HAV 607 00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:40,133 TO VOTE FOR US 608 00:17:40,133 --> 00:17:43,033 >> THEY MAY ALSO HAVE TAKEN 609 00:17:43,033 --> 00:17:44,566 SLIGHTLY CRAZIER PICTURE OF HE 610 00:17:44,566 --> 00:17:46,733 IN THIS AD THAN IN THE ONE 611 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:47,000 BEFORE 612 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,533 >> VERY AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY. 613 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:50,433 BARBARA BUONO IS STILL NOT KNOWN 614 00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:51,700 BY 40% OF VOTERS 615 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,100 AND FOR THEM TO BE PUTTING HER 616 00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:54,333 NAME OUT THERE YOU KNOW, 617 00:17:54,333 --> 00:17:55,466 PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THA 618 00:17:55,466 --> 00:17:57,266 SHE HAS BY HERSELF AT THIS POINT 619 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:58,700 WITH THESE ATTACK ADS. 620 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:02,033 IT JUST SHOWS HOW HELLBENT THE 621 00:18:02,033 --> 00:18:03,466 ARE, I WOULD SAY, AND LIKE 622 00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:05,066 REALLY MAKING THIS IMPRESSION ON 623 00:18:05,066 --> 00:18:06,200 VOTERS SHE'S GOING TO BE THE 624 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,500 WORST GOVERNOR EVER, IF YOU CARE 625 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,166 ABOUT TAXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 626 00:18:10,166 --> 00:18:11,633 >> THEY ARE CONCERNED -- G 627 00:18:11,633 --> 00:18:12,100 AHEAD. 628 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:14,866 >> THE BIG CONCERN THAT SHE HA 629 00:18:14,866 --> 00:18:16,266 OR THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR HER 630 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:20,000 AT THIS POINT IS THAT BEING AT 631 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,533 SUCH A FUND-RAISIN 632 00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:21,800 DISADVANTAGE 633 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,266 OVER $11 MILLION RIGHT NOW 634 00:18:23,266 --> 00:18:24,233 >> IS IT 635 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:26,266 >> YEAH, YEAH, I BELIEVE WIT 636 00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:28,366 ALL THE PUBLIC MATCHING FUNDS. 637 00:18:28,366 --> 00:18:30,000 LAST I HAD SEEN. 638 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,900 CHRISTIE HAD OVER $11 MILLIO 639 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:32,700 MORE THAN HER. 640 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:33,366 >> WOW 641 00:18:33,366 --> 00:18:37,266 >> IT ALLOWS HIM A PLATFORM TO 642 00:18:37,266 --> 00:18:38,833 SORT OF SIT THERE AND THROW AL 643 00:18:38,833 --> 00:18:43,200 THE STONES HE WANTS AND DEFINE 644 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,333 HER. 645 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:45,766 AND UNFORTUNATELY, VERY NEAR THE 646 00:18:45,766 --> 00:18:46,933 ELECTION, SHE DOESN' 647 00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:48,333 NECESSARILY HAVE ANY ABILITY T 648 00:18:48,333 --> 00:18:49,800 FIRE BACK AND EITHER TRY TO TAKE 649 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,233 HIM DOWN OR TO DEFINE HERSEL 650 00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:53,400 AS, NO, THIS IS ME 651 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,166 THIS IS NOT -- WHAT HE'S SAYIN 652 00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:56,300 IS NOT REALLY ME 653 00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:57,600 SHE'S AT THAT DISADVANTAGE 654 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,300 >> THE CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN'S 655 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:01,833 CONCERN IS THAT WITH THE 656 00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:02,600 DEMOCRATIC REGISTRATIO 657 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,700 ADVANTAGE IN THE STATE, 700,000, 658 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:09,066 THAT AS THE ELECTION APPROACHES, 659 00:19:09,066 --> 00:19:13,466 THINGS WILL SORT OF DRAW TO TH 660 00:19:13,466 --> 00:19:16,200 LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OR TH 661 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,500 LEVEL OF PAST HISTORY AND THAT 662 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:21,033 THIS 20, 25, 30-POINT LEAD WIL 663 00:19:21,033 --> 00:19:22,333 SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR 664 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:23,866 SO THIS IS DESIGNED TO 665 00:19:23,866 --> 00:19:26,366 PROTECT -- TO PREVENT THAT FRO 666 00:19:26,366 --> 00:19:26,466 HAPPENING. 667 00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:27,533 >> I AGREE 668 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:29,000 RIGHT NOW YOU DRIVE THAT MESSAGE 669 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,333 HOME 670 00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:31,566 REPEAT IT, REPEAT IT, REPEAT I 671 00:19:31,566 --> 00:19:33,266 AND PAINT HER AS A TAX AND SPEND 672 00:19:33,266 --> 00:19:34,566 LIBERAL WHO HAS BEEN RAISING 673 00:19:34,566 --> 00:19:36,300 TAXES LIKE A DRUNK SAILOR. 674 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,566 THAT'S WHY THEY EVEN PICKED TH 675 00:19:38,566 --> 00:19:41,400 PICTURES REALLY CAREFULLY THAT 676 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,500 SHE'S CARELESS, WHERE WE'R 677 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:43,600 CONSERVATIVES. 678 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,200 WE'RE FISCALLY SOUND AND 679 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,300 RESPONSIBLE IS CHRISTIE' 680 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:48,366 MESSAGE VERSUS WHAT YOU AR 681 00:19:48,366 --> 00:19:49,433 GETTING ON THE OTHER SIDE. 682 00:19:49,433 --> 00:19:53,500 >> WE BUMPED INTO BUONO ON 683 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:53,766 TUESDAY. 684 00:19:53,766 --> 00:19:56,600 GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK WAS I 685 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,466 FOR BOOKER 686 00:19:57,466 --> 00:19:58,800 DID FOUR EVENTS. 687 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,100 BOOKER WAS AT NONE OF THEM, BU 688 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:04,033 BUONO WAS AT ONE OF THEM A 689 00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:05,600 RUTGERS, A RALLY AT THE -- 690 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,533 OUTSIDE THE STUDENT CENTER A 691 00:20:08,533 --> 00:20:08,766 RUTGERS. 692 00:20:08,766 --> 00:20:10,066 WE ASKED HER HOW THINGS WERE 693 00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:10,433 GOING. 694 00:20:10,433 --> 00:20:12,466 LET'S HEAR HER 695 00:20:12,466 --> 00:20:14,766 >> THE CAMPAIGN IS EXCITED 696 00:20:14,766 --> 00:20:14,933 ENERGIZED. 697 00:20:14,933 --> 00:20:16,966 WE ARE MOVING AHEAD. 698 00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:20,166 AND WE OAR ARE -- I MEAN, WE ARE 699 00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:20,433 BUZZING. 700 00:20:20,433 --> 00:20:24,333 >> THERE'S A NEW POLL OUT TODAY, 701 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:24,566 QUINNIPIAC 702 00:20:24,566 --> 00:20:26,133 YOU ARE DOWN BY 28 703 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:27,533 THAT'S NOT TOO GOOD. 704 00:20:27,533 --> 00:20:29,233 >> I DON'T THINK LOOK AT THE 705 00:20:29,233 --> 00:20:29,666 POLLS. 706 00:20:29,666 --> 00:20:31,766 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEVA 707 00:20:31,766 --> 00:20:32,500 PATRICK HERE 708 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:33,966 WHEN HE RAN FOR GOVERNOR, TH 709 00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:35,166 PUNDITS DIDN'T SUPPORT HIM 710 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:36,133 EITHER 711 00:20:36,133 --> 00:20:37,333 DEVAL BELIEVED IN THE PEOPLE AND 712 00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:39,066 HE BELIEVED THE PEOPLE ARE MOR 713 00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:41,100 IMPORTANT THAN THE PUNDITS 714 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:43,366 >> WHAT DO YOU SAY 715 00:20:43,366 --> 00:20:44,900 >> WELL, PUNDITRY IS ONE THING 716 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,000 AND POLLS ARE ANOTHER. 717 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,600 I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO PU 718 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,866 A BRAVE FACE ON IT, BUT TH 719 00:20:51,866 --> 00:20:53,900 TRUTH IS SHE'S BEEN FA 720 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:55,133 OUTFLANKED ON THE FUND-RAISING 721 00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:56,600 STUFF AND THESE ADS THAT WE JUST 722 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,700 TALKED ABOUT, I THINK, ARE 723 00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:58,600 HAVING AN EFFECT 724 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,033 HER APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE LOOKING 725 00:21:01,033 --> 00:21:02,266 VERY GRIM RIGHT NOW SINCE THEY 726 00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:05,000 STARTED RUNNING. 727 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,266 SO UNLESS SOMETHING MAJO 728 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:09,000 HAPPENS OR SHE BENEFITS FROM 729 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,666 SOME HUGE CHANGE IN SENTIMENT, I 730 00:21:10,666 --> 00:21:11,966 JUST DON'T SEE HOW SHE CAN PUL 731 00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:13,033 IT OFF AT THIS POINT 732 00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:14,266 >> SHE IS PUTTING -- 733 00:21:14,266 --> 00:21:17,966 >> AND WE EVEN HAD THE STATE PBA 734 00:21:17,966 --> 00:21:19,600 THAT DID NOT ENDORSE ANYONE IN 735 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,633 THE GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGN 736 00:21:21,633 --> 00:21:23,733 AND IN HIS LETTER -- IN HI 737 00:21:23,733 --> 00:21:25,666 MEMBERSHIP, HIS LETTER TO TH 738 00:21:25,666 --> 00:21:26,900 MEMBERSHIP, PRESIDENT ANTHON 739 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:29,333 WEINER HAD SAID THAT THE 740 00:21:29,333 --> 00:21:31,033 DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING BASICALL 741 00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:34,233 A HALFHEARTED CAMPAIGN 742 00:21:34,233 --> 00:21:35,633 YOU KNOW, THAT TELLS YOU 743 00:21:35,633 --> 00:21:36,766 SOMETHING RIGHT THERE WHEN SHE'S 744 00:21:36,766 --> 00:21:39,066 SAYING THE CAMPAIGN IS 745 00:21:39,066 --> 00:21:40,466 ENERGIZED, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE 746 00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:41,900 AREN'T SEEING THAT 747 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:44,133 >> UH-HUH. 748 00:21:44,133 --> 00:21:45,900 >> YOU HAVE TO WONDER, IT' 749 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:47,166 POLITICS 101 750 00:21:47,166 --> 00:21:49,133 NEGATIVE ADS DON'T GET YOU ANY 751 00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:49,300 VOTES. 752 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:50,700 BUT THEY SUPPRESS YOUR 753 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:51,500 OPPONENT'S VOTES 754 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:53,800 SO IF THINGS LIKE THAT, TH 755 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,500 PERCEPTION, YOU HAVE TO WONDER 756 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,300 IF AN ATTACK AD COMING FRO 757 00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:59,533 CHRISTIE IS -- YOU KNOW WHAT I 758 00:21:59,533 --> 00:21:59,633 MEAN 759 00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:01,533 AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT 760 00:22:01,533 --> 00:22:03,466 UNFETTERED WITH NO RESPONSE FROM 761 00:22:03,466 --> 00:22:04,933 BUONO IS CREATING THAT 762 00:22:04,933 --> 00:22:05,800 IMPRESSION 763 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000 >> IS SHE PUTTING A BRAVE FACE 764 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,066 ON A BAD SITUATION 765 00:22:11,066 --> 00:22:12,500 >> AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, SHE HAS 766 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,233 NO RESOURCES TO FIRE BACK. 767 00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:16,466 THAT IS A SEVERE HANDICAP FO 768 00:22:16,466 --> 00:22:17,800 HER WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TH 769 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,300 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GO BACK 770 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,600 OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY OR SAME 771 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,433 DAY WITH YOUR OWN ADS. 772 00:22:23,433 --> 00:22:25,166 YOU CAN'T COUNTERPUNCH THE SAM 773 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:28,666 WAY HE'S PUNCHING YOU. 774 00:22:28,666 --> 00:22:35,333 IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT 775 00:22:35,333 --> 00:22:36,933 >> SHE APPEARED BEFORE THE NEW 776 00:22:36,933 --> 00:22:38,833 JERSEY BLACK ISSUES CONVENTION 777 00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:42,566 THE GOVERNOR WAS IN NEWARK WIT 778 00:22:42,566 --> 00:22:42,700 BOOKER 779 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,800 THE NEXT DAY IN ORANGE WITH TH 780 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,433 MAYOR THERE. 781 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:47,966 SOME POLLING WAS DONE THIS WEE 782 00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:49,300 ON THE MINORITY VOTES. 783 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:52,366 THE GOVERNOR IS DOING REASONABLY 784 00:22:52,366 --> 00:22:52,633 WELL 785 00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:54,366 30 SOMETHING PERCENT WHICH FOR A 786 00:22:54,366 --> 00:22:56,400 REPUBLICAN IS REASONABLY WELL. 787 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,633 YES? 788 00:22:56,633 --> 00:22:56,966 NO 789 00:22:56,966 --> 00:23:00,100 >> YEAH, HE STARTED IN 2009, H 790 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:03,166 GOT 9% OF THE MINORITY VOTE. 791 00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,500 SO TO COME THIS FAR, HE, YOU 792 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:06,900 KNOW, HE'S FEELING PRETTY GOOD 793 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,266 ABOUT THAT AND WANTS T 794 00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:09,533 CAPITALIZE ON THAT, WHIL 795 00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:11,666 BARBARA BUONO IS LOOKING AT IT 796 00:23:11,666 --> 00:23:13,333 AS A PLACE WHERE SHE MAY B 797 00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:14,800 SLIPPING AND HAS TO GO BACK IN 798 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,800 THERE AND TRY TO GET SOME VOTE 799 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,033 THERE. 800 00:23:17,033 --> 00:23:20,233 >> THAT WAS AN EARLY CAMPAIG 801 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:21,333 STRATEGY OF THE GOVERNOR'S AND 802 00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:24,366 THE REPUBLICANS WAS TO SHORE U 803 00:23:24,366 --> 00:23:26,966 YOUR VOTE AND MOVE BEYOND TH 804 00:23:26,966 --> 00:23:27,933 TYPICAL BASE AND REPUBLICANS 805 00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:31,200 JUST IN TERMS OF BLOWING UP TH 806 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,133 LEVEL OF THE PLURALITY 807 00:23:33,133 --> 00:23:34,900 AND SHORING UP YOUR FLANK IN 808 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:36,200 CASE THERE WAS MORE OF A 809 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,433 CHALLENGE THAN ANTICIPATED 810 00:23:37,433 --> 00:23:38,933 >> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME 811 00:23:38,933 --> 00:23:40,366 WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SUBJECT 812 00:23:40,366 --> 00:23:41,233 DUNES. 813 00:23:41,233 --> 00:23:42,333 MARIANNE, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING 814 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,766 WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT TH 815 00:23:43,766 --> 00:23:44,000 SHORE. 816 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,233 THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT BETWEEN 817 00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:48,100 THE FAMILY THAT HAD WON 818 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,100 $375,000 JUDGMENT AND THE STATE, 819 00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:51,666 A $1 SETTLEMENT. 820 00:23:51,666 --> 00:23:53,766 WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE 821 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,600 BUILDING OF DUNES AND TH 822 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,800 GRANTING OF EASEMENTS? 823 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 >> WELL, NOW AT THE SAME TIM 824 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,266 THAT THAT SETTLEMENT CAME DOWN 825 00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,433 THE GOVERNOR ALSO SIGNED A 826 00:24:02,433 --> 00:24:04,033 EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CREATES A 827 00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:06,800 AGENCY WITHIN THE DEP THAT'S 828 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,933 GOING TO START GETTING THE BAL 829 00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:10,833 ROLLING ON OBTAINING ALL THESE 830 00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:12,133 EASEMENTS FROM THE THOUSAND OR 831 00:24:12,133 --> 00:24:13,666 SO HOLD DLOUTS THAT ARE THERE. 832 00:24:13,666 --> 00:24:15,033 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTL 833 00:24:15,033 --> 00:24:18,333 WHILE TO DO THAT BECAUSE A LOT 834 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:19,600 OF THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO 835 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,400 WIND UP IN COURT 836 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,966 BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CHRISTIE 837 00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:23,733 ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT 838 00:24:23,733 --> 00:24:29,333 THIS AS MOMENTUM NOW TO GET THAT 839 00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:29,633 BECAUSE THESE TOWNS ARE REALLY 840 00:24:29,633 --> 00:24:31,866 WORRIED THAT THESE ARE DUNES FOR 841 00:24:31,866 --> 00:24:36,266 THE TOWNS THAT NEVER HAD DUNES 842 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:37,500 CONSTRUCTED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF 843 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:38,066 ENGINEERS BEFORE 844 00:24:38,066 --> 00:24:40,266 THEY ARE WORRIED WITH THIS 845 00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:41,100 UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON THEY 846 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,266 DON'T HAVE MUCH THERE NOW. 847 00:24:42,266 --> 00:24:43,333 AND EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T GOING 848 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:45,466 TO HELP THEM FOR THIS HURRICAN 849 00:24:45,466 --> 00:24:46,633 SEASON, THEY ARE STILL LOOKING 850 00:24:46,633 --> 00:24:48,333 INTO THE FUTURE, WHEN NORMALLY 851 00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,933 THESE PROJECTS TAKE TWO OR THREE 852 00:24:50,933 --> 00:24:54,633 YEARS TO GET TO FRUITION 853 00:24:54,633 --> 00:24:55,900 THE ARMY CORPS HAS MADE THIS A 854 00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:56,800 PRIORITY OF THEIRS 855 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,266 AND TOWNS OF HOPING THEY'L 856 00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:00,633 ACTUALLY GET STARTED NEXT YEAR 857 00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:02,733 >> SO IS THIS 1,000 FAMILIES 858 00:25:02,733 --> 00:25:05,766 VERSUS THE STATE OVER TH 859 00:25:05,766 --> 00:25:06,933 BUILDING OF DUNES? 860 00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:07,700 >> IT COULD BE 861 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,833 SOME OF THEM ARE SAYING -- A 862 00:25:09,833 --> 00:25:11,000 ATTORNEY I TALK TO WHO MAY B 863 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,033 REPRESENTING SOME OF THEM AR 864 00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:14,833 SAYING, LOOK, WE JUST WANT T 865 00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,866 PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT 866 00:25:16,866 --> 00:25:19,600 TO FAIR COMPENSATION FOR 867 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,366 PROPERTY THAT THE STATE' 868 00:25:21,366 --> 00:25:21,766 TAKING 869 00:25:21,766 --> 00:25:24,133 AND THAT THEY SEE THE GOVERNMENT 870 00:25:24,133 --> 00:25:25,766 AS STRONG-ARMING THEM INTO 871 00:25:25,766 --> 00:25:26,966 HANDING THIS PROPERTY OVER FOR 872 00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:27,200 NOTHING. 873 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000 AND THEY ARE SAYING, HEY, WE'R 874 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,933 INTITLED TO THAT 875 00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:32,600 >> ON THAT NOTE, WE'VE GOT T 876 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,900 WRAP IT UP 877 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:34,666 THANKS VERY MUCH 878 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:36,733 WE'LL BE BACK WITH ANOTHER 879 00:25:36,733 --> 00:25:38,866 "ROUNDTABLE" NEXT SATURDAY A 880 00:25:38,866 --> 00:25:40,733 5:30 AND SUNDAY MORNING AT 9:00. 881 00:25:40,733 --> 00:25:42,866 ON "ON THE RECORD," ASSEMBLY 882 00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:46,033 LEADERS LOU GREENWALD AND JO 883 00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:46,133 BRAMNICK LOOK AHEAD TO THE 884 00:25:46,133 --> 00:25:47,533 LEGISLATIVE ELECTION 885 00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:49,133 THAT'S SATURDAYS AT 2:00 P.M 886 00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:51,466 AND SUNDAY MORNINGS AT 10:00 887 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:53,166 FOR FULL COVERAGE OF ENGIN 888 00:25:53,166 --> 00:25:55,033 POLITICS, WATCH "NJ TODAY" WIT 889 00:25:55,033 --> 00:25:59,166 MIKE SNIDER WEEKNIGHTS AT 6:00 890 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:00,400 7:30 AND 11:00 891 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,166 ALSO ON NJTV.ORG 892 00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:04,766 >>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS 893 00:26:04,766 --> 00:26:06,466 ROUNDTABLE" WITH MICHAEL ARON IS 894 00:26:06,466 --> 00:26:07,600 PROVIDED BY -- 895 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,300 PSE&G. 896 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:09,866 SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING 897 00:26:09,866 --> 00:26:11,000 THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AN 898 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,600 INVESTING IN NEW JERSEY' 899 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,833 FUTURE 900 00:26:14,833 --> 00:26:16,266 >>> PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED 901 00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:18,033 BY NEW JERSEY BUSINESS MAGAZINE. 902 00:26:18,033 --> 00:26:20,466 THE MAGAZINE OF THE NEW JERSEY 903 00:26:20,466 --> 00:26:21,766 BUSINESS AND INDUSTR 904 00:26:21,766 --> 00:26:22,400 ASSOCIATION. 905 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,766 REPORTING TO EXECUTIVE AND 906 00:26:23,766 --> 00:26:26,366 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN ALL 2 907 00:26:26,366 --> 00:26:27,066 COUNTIES OF THE GARDEN STATE 908 00:26:27,066 --> 00:26:27,400 SINCE 1954