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>>> LONEGAN AND BOOKER PUNCH

AWAY

CHRISTIE AND BUONO CONTINU

THEIR SCRAP.

THE SUPREME COURT MAKE

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES

HAPPY AND THE STATE PUSHES FOR

MORE DUNES AT THE SHORE.

WELCOME TO "REPORTER

ROUNDTABLE."

I'M MICHAEL ARON

WITH US, FOUR HARDWORKIN

MEMBERS OF THE FOURTH ESTATE

MARIANNE SPOTO OF NEWARK

STAR-LEDGER, SUZETTE PARMLEY O

THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, SAL

RIZZO OF THE NEWARK STAR-LEDGE

AND TERRANCE STOP OF BLOOMBERG

NEWS

BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS,

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE SUPREME

COURT DECISION

ORDERING COA TO COME UP WITH NEW

RULES TO PROMOTE AFFORDABL

HOUSING.

MARIANNE, HOW SIGNIFICANT WA

THIS DECISION?

>> THIS WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT

IT'S JUST BEEN ANOTHER STEP IN

EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WIT

COA AND HOW THIS STATE STILL

CAN'T GET A FORMULA FO

AFFORDABLE HOUSING

SO THEY ARE GOING BACK TO TH

DRAWING BOARD ALMOST AGAIN WIT

THIS

>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE

AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN IN THIS

DECISION

>> FOR THE AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN,

IT MEANS THE POLICY OF THE STATE

IS STILL TO HAVE THESE

COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE

SUPER RICH PEOPLE AND THESE HUGE

MANSIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE

IT OUT WITH LIKE LOW COS

APARTMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CA

WORK IN THOSE SAME COMMUNITIES

IT CAN'T JUST TURN INTO THIS

HUGE COMMUTER STATE WHERE AL

YOU HAVE IS HOUSES

IT'S WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS

STILL SAYING

>> AND THE HOUSING ADVOCATES

WERE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY SAY IT'S

GOING TO PROMOTE THE BUILDING OF

MORE UNITS ALL OVER THE STATE.

>> WHO KNOWS IF THAT WILL HAPPEN

ANY TIME SOON.

THERE'S EVEN DOUBT THE CHRISTI

ADMINISTRATION AND COA WILL MEET

HE FIFTH MONTH LINE THEY ASKED

FOR TO IMPLEMENT THESE NEW RULES

BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT O

DYSFUNCTION AND NOT A LOT OF

AGREEMENT BETWEEN CHRISTIE AND

DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS ON TH

RIGHT WAY TO PROCEED

>> CHRISTIE -- THE CHRISTI

ADMINISTRATION WAS ON THE LOSING

SIDE OF THE DECISION

IT WAS NOTABLE TO ME THAT TH

TWO REPUBLICAN JUSTICES OWEN

AND PATTERSON, DISSENTED AND

SIDED WITH THE GOVERNOR'

POSITION

ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE OF TH

TABLE FOLLOWING THIS ONE

>> WELL, I COVERED IT DURING M

YEARS IN TRENTON IT'S BEEN GOING

ON YEARS AND YEARS

AND I THINK THE ADVOCATES AR

SAYING THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YO

CAN REALLY TRULY DIVERSIFY

CERTAIN COMMUNEITIES THAT AR

ALREADY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE AN

HAVE SOME EQUITY AND EQUALITY IN

THERE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO

AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOME OF THES

COMMUNITIES.

BUT AS YOU HAVE SAID, IT'S

PRETTY MUCH KIND OF BEEN AT

QUAGMIRE FOR YEARS

THEY'VE GOT NOW FIVE MONTHS TO

COME UP WITH A NEW FORMULA

>> IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE MT.

LAUREL DECISIONS OF THE STAT

SUPREME COURT IN 1975, AND THE

MT. LAUREL TWO IN 1983, WHICH

WAS AROUND TO COVER.

YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND

ANY COMMENT?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS JUST

REALLY BEEN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN

AND EXPERIENCED, REPORTING -

WHEN I WAS REPORTING AT TH

LOCAL LEVEL UP TO TRENTON, THI

HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH

ISSUE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR ARMS

AROUND

>> TOUGH ISSUE FOR US, TOO, TO

EXPLAIN.

IT'S SO COMPLICATED.

>> IT IS

IT'S AN IN THE WEEDS ISSUE, AN

IT'S SORT OF HARD TO EXPLAIN

BECAUSE IT'S THE INTERSECTION OF

POLICY AND PUBLIC LIFE IN A WA

THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WE

DON'T ALWAYS SEE

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WILL B

INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY AR

ABLE TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND IT

AND WHAT COMES OF IT

HOW THEY BASE THE NEW FORMULAS

>> IT REINFORCE THE EXISTENCE OF

COA CREATED BY THE FAIR HOUSIN

ACT OF 1985.

THE GOVERNOR TRIED TO ABOLIS

COA.

THE COURT WOULDN'T LET HIM D

THAT

NOW IT'S KIND OF EMBOLDENING

COA.

LET US MOVE ON TO POLITICS

SOME POLLS ALL OVER THE PLAC

THIS WEEK.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLLS

STARTING WITH THE SENATE RACE.

IN THE CAIN UNIVERSITY POLL AN

QUINNIPIAC HE LEADS BY 1

INSPECT THE STOCKTON POLL BY 2

AND IN THE GOVERNORS RACE,

CHRISTIE LEADS BUONO BY 18 I

THE CAIN POLL, BY 34 I

QUINNIPIAC AND BY 28 I

STOCKTON

WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT -- WHAT

DOES IT SAY ABOUT POLLS THAT

THESE ARE SO DIVERGENT

>> I THINK THE RACE IS

ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE POLLS

THE RACES ARE TIGHTENING, WHIC

IS NATURAL AS YOU GET CLOSER T

ELECTION DAY

BUT POLLS ARE POLLS.

IT DEPENDS ON METHODOLOGY, WHA

TIME YOU POLLED THESE PEOPLE

>> WHO YOU POLL?

I THINK SOME OF THE POLLS AR

LIKELY VOTERS.

OTHERS ARE JUST REGISTERED

VOTERS

TIME OF DAY YOU DID IT AND HOW

MANY, WHAT PART OF THE STATE

I DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE THAT

IS

SOME INDICATION THE RACES AR

TIGHTENING A BIT, BUT NOT MUCH

OR NOT ENOUGH FOR BUONO TO -

>> THE BUONO CAMP TOOK A LOT O

HEART IN THE 18-POINT GAP.

NOT SO MUCH IN THE 34-POINT GAP.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON TH

POLLING?

>> WELL, I THINK YOU BROUGHT U

AN INTERESTING POINT

QUINNIPIAC MOVED IN THIS LATES

ROUND OF POLLS TO LIKELY VOTER

FROM JUST THE CATCH-AL

REGISTERED VOTERS.

AND, I MEAN, I THINK IN THE TW

RACES YOU SAW WIDELY DIVERGENT

SWINGS AND HOW THAT AFFECTED THE

OUTCOMES

>> THAT MADE THE MARGINS BIGGER.

>> RIGHT

IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS

THE SENATE RACE ENDED UP BEING

CLOSER THAN A LOT OF PEOPL

EXPECTED AND THE GOVERNORS RACE,

THAT SHOWED A BIGGER LEAD THAN

SOME PEOPLE HAD --

>> VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY

VARY

MONMOUTH HAS ALWAYS HAD TH

RACES CLOSER THAN SOME OF THES

OTHER POLLS.

RUTGERS EAGLETON HAS CAUSED

LOT OF HEARTBURN AMONG PEOPL

LIKE CHRISTIE AND LONEGA

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FAVOR

THEM ALL THAT OFTEN.

SO THEY ALL HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT

METHODOLOGIES.

WHEN THE QUINNIPIAC POLL CAM

OUT FOR LONEGAN SHOWING ONLY 1

POINTS BEHIND BOOKER, THEY WER

HEARTENED BY THAT, TOO, AND SAID

QUINNIPIAC REALLY DO A GOOD JO

BECAUSE ALL THE REST OF THEM

ONLY TALK TO DEMOCRATS

>> LONEGAN EARLY IN THE WEEK WAS

MAKING MUCH OF THE FACT THAT

CHRIS -- THAT -- HARD TO KEE

THESE RACES STRAIGHT

THAT CORY BOOKER WAS OUT O

STATE FUND-FRAIRGS A WEEK.

ON MONDAY, BOOKER ATTENDED A BIG

HOLLYWOOD --

LONEGAN HELD HIS OWN

COUNTEREVENT IN NEWARK IN TH

SOUTH WARD AT A RESTAURANT WHERE

APPARENTLY HE ROLLED OUT RED

CARPET

LET'S HEAR HIM

>> I'M GOING TO REPRESENT NE

JERSEY, NOT HOLLYWOOD, MIKE.

>> PUTTING RED CARPET ON THE

STREET

>> IT'S JUST LIKE A HOLLYWOO

EVENT.

AND, YEAH, LET'S PULL ATTENTIO

TO THE FACT THAT CORY BOOKER'S

PARADING AROUND HOLLYWOOD AN

SAN FRANCISCO WITH MATT DAMO

AND BEN AFFLECK.

I'M GOING TO BE WITH THE WORKING

PEOPLE OF NEWARK

AND, OF COURSE, NEW JERSEY

RUNNING FOR OFFICE

AM I MOCKING HIM

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY

I THINK IT'S AN OUTRAGE HE'S OUT

THERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR A WEEK

WHILE NEWARK IS CONVULSING WIT

VIOLENT CRIME AND FAILED

UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND KIDS AR

DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL

>> YOU THINK HE'S MAKING ANY

HEADWAY WITH THAT ARGUMENT

>> HE'S GETTING HIS NAME OUT

THERE.

HE'S USING EVERY ARGUMENT HE

CAN, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF

NAME RECOGNITION

THAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT HE'

LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND IF PEOPLE CAN JUST RECOGNIZE

THAT AND PULL THE LEVER FOR HIM,

THAT'S WHAT HE IS HOPING

>> OTHER THOUGHTS?

>> I THINK HE'S CLEARLY TRYING

TO SHOW BOOKER IS OUT OF TOUCH

WITH THE COMMON PERSON, AND HE

MADE, YOU KNOW, HE MAY LOOK LIKE

HE WAS HAVING A FRIED CHICKEN AT

THIS BANQUET HALL AND BOOKER I

OUT MULLING AROUND WIT

BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES IN

CALIFORNIA

HE'S NOT IN TOUCH WITH WHA

COMMON PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT.

JOBS, CRIME, UNEMPLOYMENT.

>> SOMEONE CLOSE TO CORY BOOKE

SAID TO ME, PEOPLE LIKE LEADER

WHO HAVE FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES.

IT'S GOOD FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS

IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MAR

ZUCKERBERG AND BEN AFFLECK AND

MATT DAMON AND SO ON

>> THE QUESTION IS, IS IT GOOD

FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY

MORE THAN IT IS.

WHOSE INTEREST WILL WIN OUT IF

THEY COME INTO A COLLISION

COURSE

THAT'S THE QUESTION A LOT OF

PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THOS

FRIENDSHIPS ALTHOUGH I GRE

ZUCKER BERG GAVE $100 MILLION TO

NEWARK SCHOOLS AND NO ON

QUESTIONS THAT'S MAYBE GOING T

YIELD POSITIVE RESULTS

HE'S ALREADY STARTED TO CHANGE

THE DYNAMIC THERE.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOU

WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE

SENATE RACE, I THINK LONEGAN HAS

BEEN SUCCESSFUL KIND OF PUTTIN

BOOKER ON THE DEFENSIVE.

HE HAS A HARD TIME GETTING HIS

MESSAGE OUT UNFILTERED WITHOUT

HAVING TO RESPOND DAY AFTER DAY.

>> BOOKER?

>> YEAH.

>> WITHOUT HAVING TO RESPOND DAY

AFTER DAY TO THESE ACCUSATIONS

LONEGAN IS MAKING IN NEWARK AN

ELSEWHERE.

>> THE OTHER THING IS LONEGAN,

HAVING BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE

LONEGAN IS A GOOD SHOWMAN.

I MEAN, I THINK MICHAEL, YOU'L

REMEMBER, MARIANNE, YOU MIGH

REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHE

HE ROLLED A GARBAGE TRUCK UP O

THE STEPS -- RIGHT UP TO THE

STEPS OF THE STATEHOUSE TO SAY

THAT NEW JERSEY WAS SELLING JUNK

BONDS.

THE HOLLYWOOD RED CARPET

HE'S GOT A GOOD WAY OF JUST AS

MARIANNE SAYS, GETTING HIS NAM

OUT AND CREATING THAT NAME

RECOGNITION.

>> DRESS UP AS A CHICKEN ONC

TO -

>> HE DRESSED UP

>> HE HAD AN AID DRESS UP AS A

CHICKEN ONCE

>> WHETHER THIS TRANSLATES INT

ANY VOTES, I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN'T SAY.

IT'S CERTAINLY -

>> FREE MEDIA BEING EARNED B

CLEVERNESS

>> RIGHT

>> CORY BOOKER HAD AN EVENT WHEN

HE DID GET BACK TO TOWN, HE GO

BACK ON TUESDAY.

GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK O

MASSACHUSETTS WAS IN FOR HIM O

TUESDAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T APPEA

TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH PATRICK DID

FOUR EVENTS IN NEW JERSEY.

THE NEXT DAY, BOOKER DID APPEA

WITH GOVERNOR CHRISTIE AT AN

EVENT WHERE THEY CUT A RIBBON AT

A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROJEC

RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN

NEWARK CALLED TEACHERS VILLAGE

AN IMPRESSIVE PROJECT.

AND WHEN BOOKER SPOKE, HE,

TOWARD THE END OF HIS SPEECH

THAT DAY, HE EXHIBITED SOME OF

THE SOARING RHETORIC HE'

CAPABLE OF AND THAT HE'S KIND OF

FAMOUS FOR AND HERE'S A LITTLE

SNIP-IT OF IT.

>> FREEDOM IN AMERICA NOW MORE

THAN EVER IS NOT ABOUT PHYSICA

BONDAGE.

IT'S ABOUT LIBERATING THE MIND

OF OUR PEOPLE.

TOO MANY OF OUR CHILDREN ARE

TRAPPED IN THAT CONFINING CELL

OF MEDIOCRITY AND IGNORANC

BECAUSE WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE NO

PROVIDING THEM A QUALITY

EDUCATION.

THIS IS THE KAUFL OUR TIME AND

OUR GENERATION

>> THAT'S THE KIND OF SPEECH

THAT HE IS GOING TO GIVE ON TH

SENATE FLOOR THIS DAY IF THE

POLLS ARE CORRECT.

HOW IS HE DOING.

>> CHRISTIE HAD INTERESTING --

THEY BOTH HIGHLIGHTED THEI

AFFINITY FOR EACH OTHER OR THEIR

COMMON CAUSES.

>> BOOKER SAID I'M GOING TO GIVE

SOME GOV LOVE HERE

>> EXACTLY

I THINK ALSO TO GET TO YOU

POINT ABOUT THE RHETORIC AND THE

SPEECHES

YOU REALLY SAW IT IN THE

SPEECHES

I FORGET

BOOKER SPOKE FOR FIVE OR SIX

MINUTES AND CHRISTIE WAS 9

SECONDS.

HE WAS -

>> CHRISTIE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE

TALKING MUCH THAT DAY.

>> YOU SAW THE TWO STYLES RIGH

AT WORK RIGHT THERE.

THEY BOTH ACCOMPLISHED WHAT --

>> CHRISTIE IS MUCH MORE

TALKATIVE THAN HE WAS THAT DAY

EITHER WASN'T FEELING WELL O

THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY SPEECHE

BY 6-YEAR-OLDS AND 12-YEAR-OLD

LEADING UP TO --

>> HE'S NOT A WORD WASTER.

HE DOESN'T SPEAK JUST TO B

HEARD.

HE USUALLY DOESN'T WANT TO SAY

ANYTHING UNLESS HE GETS IN, GETS

OUT AND HAS SOMETHING --

>> THEY SAT TOGETHER IN TH

AUDIENCE

THEY CUT THE RIBBON TOGETHER

BUT THEY ARE EACH BACKING TH

OTHER'S OPPONENT WITH A KIND O

WINK AND A NOD IS WHAT YOU

IMAGINE.

>> ROWAN CROSS PARTY LINES AND

WORK ACROSS THE AISLE.

FOR ME THROUGHOUT THAT SPEECH,

NO MATTER OUR CONFERENCES,

BETWEEN ME AND THE GOVERNOR, ONE

EATS MEAT.

THE OTHER IS VEGETARIAN.

>> HE SAID WE HAVE OUR

DIFFERENCES.

HE EATS MEAT, I'M VEGAN.

HE LIKES TO DRINK A BEER WHILE

WATCHING A GAME.

I DRINK GREEN TEA.

AND THEN THERE WAS A PUNCH LINE,

BUT I --

>> HE'S LOSING WEIGHT AND I'

GAINING WAIT

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE PUNCH LINE.

>> IT DOES MAKE THES

ENDORSEMENTS SEEM A LITTLE

AWKWARD BECAUSE, I THINK,

PHRASE LIKE I'M GOING TO SHO

SOME GOV LOVE TODAY IN FRONT O

THE CAMERAS ON CHRISTIE LIKE

THAT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT KIND

OF NULLIFIES HIS SUPPORT O

BUONO.

>> THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S AL

WITH A WINK AND A NOD.

>> AND THE SAME FOR LONEGAN AN

CHRISTIE

WE KNOW THEY HAVE SOME HISTORY

THERE THAT WASN'T VERY

COMFORTABLE EITHER

>> WHEN YOU SAY THE OPTICS

IT WAS -- NOT SAYING IT WA

DESIGNED TO BE, BUT IT TURNE

INTO A VERY POLITICAL EVENT IN

THAT YOU HAD THE GOVERNOR AN

CHRISTIE WHO ARE ON OPPOSITE

SIDES OF EACH OTHER'S RACES.

YOU HAD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

LOOKING TO SUCCEED BOOKER WERE

THERE.

YOU HAD JOE DEE PRESIDING OVER

THE WHOLE THING.

THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICA

UNDERCURRENT OR POLITICA

ELEMENT TO IT.

EVEN IN THEIR SPEECHES THEY BOTH

SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.

>> THERE CERTAINLY WAS

WITH THE THREAT OF A GOVERNMEN

SHUTDOWN LOOMING IN WASHINGTON

D.C. AND THE REPUBLICANS DOW

THERE, BEING BLAMED LARGELY FO

IT, DOES ANY OF THAT SPILL OVE

ON TOLON GAN

>> WELL, CHRISTIE'S MAKING SUR

THAT DOESN'T SPILL ON TO ANY

RACE

SINCE HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN IN

THERE AND SAID THAT ANYONE

WHO -- ANYONE IN WASHINGTON, ANY

REPUBLICAN IN WASHINGTON WHO

LETS THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN IS

BEING IRRESPONSIBLE.

>> HE SAID THAT JUST YESTERDAY

I BELIEVE.

>> RIGHT

>> OR THURSDAY

SO THAT'S A REBUKE TO TH

REPUBLICANS IN THE NEW JERSE

DELEGATION IN THE HOUSE WH

MIGHT VOTE FOR -- OR WHO ALREADY

VOTED FOR THE -- FOR DEFUNDING

OBAMA CARE

>> OR SOME PEOPLE COUL

INTERPRET IT AS HE'S GOING O

THE NATIONAL STAGE AGAIN AND

TALKING TO REPUBLICANS

NATIONALLY

YOU KNOW -

>> HE'S STAKING OUT HIS POSITION

ON THE SIDE OF THE MODERATES

BASICALLY, RIGHT

>> UH-HUH.

>> HOW ABOUT LONEGAN

LONEGAN TOLD ME IN THE INTERVIEW

MONDAY THAT I'M NOT AFRAID OF

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

WE SHOULD HAVE THIS DEBATE, THIS

DISCUSSION OF ECONOMIC POLICY.

BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THA

IF THE WHOLE THING REALLY BLOW

UP OVER THE NEXT MONTH THAT IT

WON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF EFFECT

HERE IN NEW JERSEY IN BOTH THESE

RACES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> THE WAY THESE THINGS USUALL

PLAY OUT IS THEY GET -- BOTH

PARTIES GET A LOT OF TRACTIO

OUT OF THE TENSION AND FRICTION.

IT HAPPENED WITH THE BUDGET.

THE FEDERAL BUDGET WITH TH

FURLOUGHS.

IT PLAYS OUT EVERY DAY ON TH

NIGHTLY NEWS AND EACH PART

BLAMES EACH OTHER.

THEY BOTH GET TRACTION OUT O

IT

THERE'S A LOT OF SUSPENSE.

USUALLY BY THE END, IT'S

RESOLVED

>> EXCEPT THE DEBT CEILING THING

COMES TO A HEAD ON OCTOBER 17th.

THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE TH

BOOKER/LONEGAN ELECTION.

LET US MOVE ON TO THE GOVERNOR'S

RACE ITSELF.

GOVERNOR CHRISTIE PUT OUT TV A

NUMBER THREE THIS WEEK

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> BARBARA BUONO

JON CORZINE'S BUDGET CHAIR NOW

RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR

BUONO VOTED TO RAISE 154 TAXES

AND FEES

AND VOTED TO RAISE HER OWN PAY

40%.

HIGHER INCOME TAXES.

HIGHER SALES TAX

HIGHER TAXES ON HEALTH CARE.

HIGHER PAY FOR TRENTON

POLITICIANS.

BUONO VOTED FOR ALL OF THEM.

BARBARA BUONO, 154 HIGHER TAXE

FOR US

A PAY RAISE FOR HERSELF.

>> WHAT STRIKES ME IS THAT IT'

THE SAME AD THAT WE RAN LAST

WEEK EXCEPT IT WAS YELLOW LAST

WEEK AND THEY'VE TWEAKED IT TO

TAKE HE TWO THINGS THAT WERE

MOST TALKED ABOUT IN THE AD LAST

WEEK

THE 154 TAXES IN HER CAREER AN

THE PAY RAISE THAT SHE VOTED AND

THEY PUT THEM TOGETHER UP TOP AT

THE AD

OTHERWISE, TO ME, IT'S THE SAM

AD

WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE TO SA

ABOUT THAT, OR THE AD?

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY -- THE

CHRISTIE ADMINISTRATION -- THE

CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN GOING

FOR ALL ALONG.

JUST HITTING, FIRST, IF YO

NOTICE, THEY'VE STILL CONNECTE

HER WITH JON CORZINE

AND THERE'S STILL TALKING ABOU

TAX INCREASES AND IF YOU WAN

THESE TAX INCREASES FO

YOURSELF, THEN VOTE FOR THEM

BUT IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU HAV

TO VOTE FOR US

>> THEY MAY ALSO HAVE TAKEN

SLIGHTLY CRAZIER PICTURE OF HE

IN THIS AD THAN IN THE ONE

BEFORE

>> VERY AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY.

BARBARA BUONO IS STILL NOT KNOWN

BY 40% OF VOTERS

AND FOR THEM TO BE PUTTING HER

NAME OUT THERE YOU KNOW,

PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THA

SHE HAS BY HERSELF AT THIS POINT

WITH THESE ATTACK ADS.

IT JUST SHOWS HOW HELLBENT THE

ARE, I WOULD SAY, AND LIKE

REALLY MAKING THIS IMPRESSION ON

VOTERS SHE'S GOING TO BE THE

WORST GOVERNOR EVER, IF YOU CARE

ABOUT TAXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> THEY ARE CONCERNED -- G

AHEAD.

>> THE BIG CONCERN THAT SHE HA

OR THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR HER

AT THIS POINT IS THAT BEING AT

SUCH A FUND-RAISIN

DISADVANTAGE

OVER $11 MILLION RIGHT NOW

>> IS IT

>> YEAH, YEAH, I BELIEVE WIT

ALL THE PUBLIC MATCHING FUNDS.

LAST I HAD SEEN.

CHRISTIE HAD OVER $11 MILLIO

MORE THAN HER.

>> WOW

>> IT ALLOWS HIM A PLATFORM TO

SORT OF SIT THERE AND THROW AL

THE STONES HE WANTS AND DEFINE

HER.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, VERY NEAR THE

ELECTION, SHE DOESN'

NECESSARILY HAVE ANY ABILITY T

FIRE BACK AND EITHER TRY TO TAKE

HIM DOWN OR TO DEFINE HERSEL

AS, NO, THIS IS ME

THIS IS NOT -- WHAT HE'S SAYIN

IS NOT REALLY ME

SHE'S AT THAT DISADVANTAGE

>> THE CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN'S

CONCERN IS THAT WITH THE

DEMOCRATIC REGISTRATIO

ADVANTAGE IN THE STATE, 700,000,

THAT AS THE ELECTION APPROACHES,

THINGS WILL SORT OF DRAW TO TH

LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OR TH

LEVEL OF PAST HISTORY AND THAT

THIS 20, 25, 30-POINT LEAD WIL

SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR

SO THIS IS DESIGNED TO

PROTECT -- TO PREVENT THAT FRO

HAPPENING.

>> I AGREE

RIGHT NOW YOU DRIVE THAT MESSAGE

HOME

REPEAT IT, REPEAT IT, REPEAT I

AND PAINT HER AS A TAX AND SPEND

LIBERAL WHO HAS BEEN RAISING

TAXES LIKE A DRUNK SAILOR.

THAT'S WHY THEY EVEN PICKED TH

PICTURES REALLY CAREFULLY THAT

SHE'S CARELESS, WHERE WE'R

CONSERVATIVES.

WE'RE FISCALLY SOUND AND

RESPONSIBLE IS CHRISTIE'

MESSAGE VERSUS WHAT YOU AR

GETTING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> WE BUMPED INTO BUONO ON

TUESDAY.

GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK WAS I

FOR BOOKER

DID FOUR EVENTS.

BOOKER WAS AT NONE OF THEM, BU

BUONO WAS AT ONE OF THEM A

RUTGERS, A RALLY AT THE --

OUTSIDE THE STUDENT CENTER A

RUTGERS.

WE ASKED HER HOW THINGS WERE

GOING.

LET'S HEAR HER

>> THE CAMPAIGN IS EXCITED

ENERGIZED.

WE ARE MOVING AHEAD.

AND WE OAR ARE -- I MEAN, WE ARE

BUZZING.

>> THERE'S A NEW POLL OUT TODAY,

QUINNIPIAC

YOU ARE DOWN BY 28

THAT'S NOT TOO GOOD.

>> I DON'T THINK LOOK AT THE

POLLS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEVA

PATRICK HERE

WHEN HE RAN FOR GOVERNOR, TH

PUNDITS DIDN'T SUPPORT HIM

EITHER

DEVAL BELIEVED IN THE PEOPLE AND

HE BELIEVED THE PEOPLE ARE MOR

IMPORTANT THAN THE PUNDITS

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY

>> WELL, PUNDITRY IS ONE THING

AND POLLS ARE ANOTHER.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO PU

A BRAVE FACE ON IT, BUT TH

TRUTH IS SHE'S BEEN FA

OUTFLANKED ON THE FUND-RAISING

STUFF AND THESE ADS THAT WE JUST

TALKED ABOUT, I THINK, ARE

HAVING AN EFFECT

HER APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE LOOKING

VERY GRIM RIGHT NOW SINCE THEY

STARTED RUNNING.

SO UNLESS SOMETHING MAJO

HAPPENS OR SHE BENEFITS FROM

SOME HUGE CHANGE IN SENTIMENT, I

JUST DON'T SEE HOW SHE CAN PUL

IT OFF AT THIS POINT

>> SHE IS PUTTING --

>> AND WE EVEN HAD THE STATE PBA

THAT DID NOT ENDORSE ANYONE IN

THE GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGN

AND IN HIS LETTER -- IN HI

MEMBERSHIP, HIS LETTER TO TH

MEMBERSHIP, PRESIDENT ANTHON

WEINER HAD SAID THAT THE

DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING BASICALL

A HALFHEARTED CAMPAIGN

YOU KNOW, THAT TELLS YOU

SOMETHING RIGHT THERE WHEN SHE'S

SAYING THE CAMPAIGN IS

ENERGIZED, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE

AREN'T SEEING THAT

>> UH-HUH.

>> YOU HAVE TO WONDER, IT'

POLITICS 101

NEGATIVE ADS DON'T GET YOU ANY

VOTES.

BUT THEY SUPPRESS YOUR

OPPONENT'S VOTES

SO IF THINGS LIKE THAT, TH

PERCEPTION, YOU HAVE TO WONDER

IF AN ATTACK AD COMING FRO

CHRISTIE IS -- YOU KNOW WHAT I

MEAN

AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT

UNFETTERED WITH NO RESPONSE FROM

BUONO IS CREATING THAT

IMPRESSION

>> IS SHE PUTTING A BRAVE FACE

ON A BAD SITUATION

>> AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, SHE HAS

NO RESOURCES TO FIRE BACK.

THAT IS A SEVERE HANDICAP FO

HER WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TH

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GO BACK

OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY OR SAME

DAY WITH YOUR OWN ADS.

YOU CAN'T COUNTERPUNCH THE SAM

WAY HE'S PUNCHING YOU.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT

>> SHE APPEARED BEFORE THE NEW

JERSEY BLACK ISSUES CONVENTION

THE GOVERNOR WAS IN NEWARK WIT

BOOKER

THE NEXT DAY IN ORANGE WITH TH

MAYOR THERE.

SOME POLLING WAS DONE THIS WEE

ON THE MINORITY VOTES.

THE GOVERNOR IS DOING REASONABLY

WELL

30 SOMETHING PERCENT WHICH FOR A

REPUBLICAN IS REASONABLY WELL.

YES?

NO

>> YEAH, HE STARTED IN 2009, H

GOT 9% OF THE MINORITY VOTE.

SO TO COME THIS FAR, HE, YOU

KNOW, HE'S FEELING PRETTY GOOD

ABOUT THAT AND WANTS T

CAPITALIZE ON THAT, WHIL

BARBARA BUONO IS LOOKING AT IT

AS A PLACE WHERE SHE MAY B

SLIPPING AND HAS TO GO BACK IN

THERE AND TRY TO GET SOME VOTE

THERE.

>> THAT WAS AN EARLY CAMPAIG

STRATEGY OF THE GOVERNOR'S AND

THE REPUBLICANS WAS TO SHORE U

YOUR VOTE AND MOVE BEYOND TH

TYPICAL BASE AND REPUBLICANS

JUST IN TERMS OF BLOWING UP TH

LEVEL OF THE PLURALITY

AND SHORING UP YOUR FLANK IN

CASE THERE WAS MORE OF A

CHALLENGE THAN ANTICIPATED

>> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SUBJECT

DUNES.

MARIANNE, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING

WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT TH

SHORE.

THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT BETWEEN

THE FAMILY THAT HAD WON

$375,000 JUDGMENT AND THE STATE,

A $1 SETTLEMENT.

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE

BUILDING OF DUNES AND TH

GRANTING OF EASEMENTS?

>> WELL, NOW AT THE SAME TIM

THAT THAT SETTLEMENT CAME DOWN

THE GOVERNOR ALSO SIGNED A

EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CREATES A

AGENCY WITHIN THE DEP THAT'S

GOING TO START GETTING THE BAL

ROLLING ON OBTAINING ALL THESE

EASEMENTS FROM THE THOUSAND OR

SO HOLD DLOUTS THAT ARE THERE.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTL

WHILE TO DO THAT BECAUSE A LOT

OF THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO

WIND UP IN COURT

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CHRISTIE

ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT

THIS AS MOMENTUM NOW TO GET THAT

BECAUSE THESE TOWNS ARE REALLY

WORRIED THAT THESE ARE DUNES FOR

THE TOWNS THAT NEVER HAD DUNES

CONSTRUCTED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF

ENGINEERS BEFORE

THEY ARE WORRIED WITH THIS

UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON THEY

DON'T HAVE MUCH THERE NOW.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T GOING

TO HELP THEM FOR THIS HURRICAN

SEASON, THEY ARE STILL LOOKING

INTO THE FUTURE, WHEN NORMALLY

THESE PROJECTS TAKE TWO OR THREE

YEARS TO GET TO FRUITION

THE ARMY CORPS HAS MADE THIS A

PRIORITY OF THEIRS

AND TOWNS OF HOPING THEY'L

ACTUALLY GET STARTED NEXT YEAR

>> SO IS THIS 1,000 FAMILIES

VERSUS THE STATE OVER TH

BUILDING OF DUNES?

>> IT COULD BE

SOME OF THEM ARE SAYING -- A

ATTORNEY I TALK TO WHO MAY B

REPRESENTING SOME OF THEM AR

SAYING, LOOK, WE JUST WANT T

PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

TO FAIR COMPENSATION FOR

PROPERTY THAT THE STATE'

TAKING

AND THAT THEY SEE THE GOVERNMENT

AS STRONG-ARMING THEM INTO

HANDING THIS PROPERTY OVER FOR

NOTHING.

AND THEY ARE SAYING, HEY, WE'R

INTITLED TO THAT

>> ON THAT NOTE, WE'VE GOT T

WRAP IT UP

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