>>> SENATE RACE AND TH
GOVERNOR'S RACE OCCUPY CENTE
STAGE.
>>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS
ROUNDTABLE" WITH MICHAEL ARON IS
PROVIDED BY --
PSE&G.
SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AN
INVESTING IN NEW JERSEY'
FUTURE
>>> PROMOTIONAL SUPPOR
PROVIDED BY --
NEW JERSEY BUSINESS MAGAZINE
REPORTING TO EXECUTIVE AND
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN ALL 2
COUNTIES OF THE GARDEN STATE
SINCE 1954
>>> LONEGAN AND BOOKER PUNCH
AWAY
CHRISTIE AND BUONO CONTINU
THEIR SCRAP.
THE SUPREME COURT MAKE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES
HAPPY AND THE STATE PUSHES FOR
MORE DUNES AT THE SHORE.
WELCOME TO "REPORTER
ROUNDTABLE."
I'M MICHAEL ARON
WITH US, FOUR HARDWORKIN
MEMBERS OF THE FOURTH ESTATE
MARIANNE SPOTO OF NEWARK
STAR-LEDGER, SUZETTE PARMLEY O
THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, SAL
RIZZO OF THE NEWARK STAR-LEDGE
AND TERRANCE STOP OF BLOOMBERG
NEWS
BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS,
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE SUPREME
COURT DECISION
ORDERING COA TO COME UP WITH NEW
RULES TO PROMOTE AFFORDABL
HOUSING.
MARIANNE, HOW SIGNIFICANT WA
THIS DECISION?
>> THIS WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
IT'S JUST BEEN ANOTHER STEP IN
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WIT
COA AND HOW THIS STATE STILL
CAN'T GET A FORMULA FO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING
SO THEY ARE GOING BACK TO TH
DRAWING BOARD ALMOST AGAIN WIT
THIS
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE
AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN IN THIS
DECISION
>> FOR THE AVERAGE NEW JERSEYAN,
IT MEANS THE POLICY OF THE STATE
IS STILL TO HAVE THESE
COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE
SUPER RICH PEOPLE AND THESE HUGE
MANSIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE
IT OUT WITH LIKE LOW COS
APARTMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CA
WORK IN THOSE SAME COMMUNITIES
IT CAN'T JUST TURN INTO THIS
HUGE COMMUTER STATE WHERE AL
YOU HAVE IS HOUSES
IT'S WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS
STILL SAYING
>> AND THE HOUSING ADVOCATES
WERE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY SAY IT'S
GOING TO PROMOTE THE BUILDING OF
MORE UNITS ALL OVER THE STATE.
>> WHO KNOWS IF THAT WILL HAPPEN
ANY TIME SOON.
THERE'S EVEN DOUBT THE CHRISTI
ADMINISTRATION AND COA WILL MEET
HE FIFTH MONTH LINE THEY ASKED
FOR TO IMPLEMENT THESE NEW RULES
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT O
DYSFUNCTION AND NOT A LOT OF
AGREEMENT BETWEEN CHRISTIE AND
DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS ON TH
RIGHT WAY TO PROCEED
>> CHRISTIE -- THE CHRISTI
ADMINISTRATION WAS ON THE LOSING
SIDE OF THE DECISION
IT WAS NOTABLE TO ME THAT TH
TWO REPUBLICAN JUSTICES OWEN
AND PATTERSON, DISSENTED AND
SIDED WITH THE GOVERNOR'
POSITION
ANYBODY ON THIS SIDE OF TH
TABLE FOLLOWING THIS ONE
>> WELL, I COVERED IT DURING M
YEARS IN TRENTON IT'S BEEN GOING
ON YEARS AND YEARS
AND I THINK THE ADVOCATES AR
SAYING THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YO
CAN REALLY TRULY DIVERSIFY
CERTAIN COMMUNEITIES THAT AR
ALREADY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE AN
HAVE SOME EQUITY AND EQUALITY IN
THERE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOME OF THES
COMMUNITIES.
BUT AS YOU HAVE SAID, IT'S
PRETTY MUCH KIND OF BEEN AT
QUAGMIRE FOR YEARS
THEY'VE GOT NOW FIVE MONTHS TO
COME UP WITH A NEW FORMULA
>> IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE MT.
LAUREL DECISIONS OF THE STAT
SUPREME COURT IN 1975, AND THE
MT. LAUREL TWO IN 1983, WHICH
WAS AROUND TO COVER.
YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND
ANY COMMENT?
>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS JUST
REALLY BEEN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN
AND EXPERIENCED, REPORTING -
WHEN I WAS REPORTING AT TH
LOCAL LEVEL UP TO TRENTON, THI
HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH
ISSUE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR ARMS
AROUND
>> TOUGH ISSUE FOR US, TOO, TO
EXPLAIN.
IT'S SO COMPLICATED.
>> IT IS
IT'S AN IN THE WEEDS ISSUE, AN
IT'S SORT OF HARD TO EXPLAIN
BECAUSE IT'S THE INTERSECTION OF
POLICY AND PUBLIC LIFE IN A WA
THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WE
DON'T ALWAYS SEE
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WILL B
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY AR
ABLE TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND IT
AND WHAT COMES OF IT
HOW THEY BASE THE NEW FORMULAS
>> IT REINFORCE THE EXISTENCE OF
COA CREATED BY THE FAIR HOUSIN
ACT OF 1985.
THE GOVERNOR TRIED TO ABOLIS
COA.
THE COURT WOULDN'T LET HIM D
THAT
NOW IT'S KIND OF EMBOLDENING
COA.
LET US MOVE ON TO POLITICS
SOME POLLS ALL OVER THE PLAC
THIS WEEK.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLLS
STARTING WITH THE SENATE RACE.
IN THE CAIN UNIVERSITY POLL AN
QUINNIPIAC HE LEADS BY 1
INSPECT THE STOCKTON POLL BY 2
AND IN THE GOVERNORS RACE,
CHRISTIE LEADS BUONO BY 18 I
THE CAIN POLL, BY 34 I
QUINNIPIAC AND BY 28 I
STOCKTON
WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT -- WHAT
DOES IT SAY ABOUT POLLS THAT
THESE ARE SO DIVERGENT
>> I THINK THE RACE IS
ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE POLLS
THE RACES ARE TIGHTENING, WHIC
IS NATURAL AS YOU GET CLOSER T
ELECTION DAY
BUT POLLS ARE POLLS.
IT DEPENDS ON METHODOLOGY, WHA
TIME YOU POLLED THESE PEOPLE
>> WHO YOU POLL?
I THINK SOME OF THE POLLS AR
LIKELY VOTERS.
OTHERS ARE JUST REGISTERED
VOTERS
TIME OF DAY YOU DID IT AND HOW
MANY, WHAT PART OF THE STATE
I DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE THAT
IS
SOME INDICATION THE RACES AR
TIGHTENING A BIT, BUT NOT MUCH
OR NOT ENOUGH FOR BUONO TO -
>> THE BUONO CAMP TOOK A LOT O
HEART IN THE 18-POINT GAP.
NOT SO MUCH IN THE 34-POINT GAP.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON TH
POLLING?
>> WELL, I THINK YOU BROUGHT U
AN INTERESTING POINT
QUINNIPIAC MOVED IN THIS LATES
ROUND OF POLLS TO LIKELY VOTER
FROM JUST THE CATCH-AL
REGISTERED VOTERS.
AND, I MEAN, I THINK IN THE TW
RACES YOU SAW WIDELY DIVERGENT
SWINGS AND HOW THAT AFFECTED THE
OUTCOMES
>> THAT MADE THE MARGINS BIGGER.
>> RIGHT
IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS
THE SENATE RACE ENDED UP BEING
CLOSER THAN A LOT OF PEOPL
EXPECTED AND THE GOVERNORS RACE,
THAT SHOWED A BIGGER LEAD THAN
SOME PEOPLE HAD --
>> VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY
VARY
MONMOUTH HAS ALWAYS HAD TH
RACES CLOSER THAN SOME OF THES
OTHER POLLS.
RUTGERS EAGLETON HAS CAUSED
LOT OF HEARTBURN AMONG PEOPL
LIKE CHRISTIE AND LONEGA
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FAVOR
THEM ALL THAT OFTEN.
SO THEY ALL HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT
METHODOLOGIES.
WHEN THE QUINNIPIAC POLL CAM
OUT FOR LONEGAN SHOWING ONLY 1
POINTS BEHIND BOOKER, THEY WER
HEARTENED BY THAT, TOO, AND SAID
QUINNIPIAC REALLY DO A GOOD JO
BECAUSE ALL THE REST OF THEM
ONLY TALK TO DEMOCRATS
>> LONEGAN EARLY IN THE WEEK WAS
MAKING MUCH OF THE FACT THAT
CHRIS -- THAT -- HARD TO KEE
THESE RACES STRAIGHT
THAT CORY BOOKER WAS OUT O
STATE FUND-FRAIRGS A WEEK.
ON MONDAY, BOOKER ATTENDED A BIG
HOLLYWOOD --
LONEGAN HELD HIS OWN
COUNTEREVENT IN NEWARK IN TH
SOUTH WARD AT A RESTAURANT WHERE
APPARENTLY HE ROLLED OUT RED
CARPET
LET'S HEAR HIM
>> I'M GOING TO REPRESENT NE
JERSEY, NOT HOLLYWOOD, MIKE.
>> PUTTING RED CARPET ON THE
STREET
>> IT'S JUST LIKE A HOLLYWOO
EVENT.
AND, YEAH, LET'S PULL ATTENTIO
TO THE FACT THAT CORY BOOKER'S
PARADING AROUND HOLLYWOOD AN
SAN FRANCISCO WITH MATT DAMO
AND BEN AFFLECK.
I'M GOING TO BE WITH THE WORKING
PEOPLE OF NEWARK
AND, OF COURSE, NEW JERSEY
RUNNING FOR OFFICE
AM I MOCKING HIM
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY
I THINK IT'S AN OUTRAGE HE'S OUT
THERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR A WEEK
WHILE NEWARK IS CONVULSING WIT
VIOLENT CRIME AND FAILED
UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AND KIDS AR
DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL
>> YOU THINK HE'S MAKING ANY
HEADWAY WITH THAT ARGUMENT
>> HE'S GETTING HIS NAME OUT
THERE.
HE'S USING EVERY ARGUMENT HE
CAN, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF
NAME RECOGNITION
THAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT HE'
LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND IF PEOPLE CAN JUST RECOGNIZE
THAT AND PULL THE LEVER FOR HIM,
THAT'S WHAT HE IS HOPING
>> OTHER THOUGHTS?
>> I THINK HE'S CLEARLY TRYING
TO SHOW BOOKER IS OUT OF TOUCH
WITH THE COMMON PERSON, AND HE
MADE, YOU KNOW, HE MAY LOOK LIKE
HE WAS HAVING A FRIED CHICKEN AT
THIS BANQUET HALL AND BOOKER I
OUT MULLING AROUND WIT
BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES IN
CALIFORNIA
HE'S NOT IN TOUCH WITH WHA
COMMON PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT.
JOBS, CRIME, UNEMPLOYMENT.
>> SOMEONE CLOSE TO CORY BOOKE
SAID TO ME, PEOPLE LIKE LEADER
WHO HAVE FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES.
IT'S GOOD FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS
IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MAR
ZUCKERBERG AND BEN AFFLECK AND
MATT DAMON AND SO ON
>> THE QUESTION IS, IS IT GOOD
FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY
MORE THAN IT IS.
WHOSE INTEREST WILL WIN OUT IF
THEY COME INTO A COLLISION
COURSE
THAT'S THE QUESTION A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THOS
FRIENDSHIPS ALTHOUGH I GRE
ZUCKER BERG GAVE $100 MILLION TO
NEWARK SCHOOLS AND NO ON
QUESTIONS THAT'S MAYBE GOING T
YIELD POSITIVE RESULTS
HE'S ALREADY STARTED TO CHANGE
THE DYNAMIC THERE.
BUT, YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOU
WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE
SENATE RACE, I THINK LONEGAN HAS
BEEN SUCCESSFUL KIND OF PUTTIN
BOOKER ON THE DEFENSIVE.
HE HAS A HARD TIME GETTING HIS
MESSAGE OUT UNFILTERED WITHOUT
HAVING TO RESPOND DAY AFTER DAY.
>> BOOKER?
>> YEAH.
>> WITHOUT HAVING TO RESPOND DAY
AFTER DAY TO THESE ACCUSATIONS
LONEGAN IS MAKING IN NEWARK AN
ELSEWHERE.
>> THE OTHER THING IS LONEGAN,
HAVING BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE
LONEGAN IS A GOOD SHOWMAN.
I MEAN, I THINK MICHAEL, YOU'L
REMEMBER, MARIANNE, YOU MIGH
REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHE
HE ROLLED A GARBAGE TRUCK UP O
THE STEPS -- RIGHT UP TO THE
STEPS OF THE STATEHOUSE TO SAY
THAT NEW JERSEY WAS SELLING JUNK
BONDS.
THE HOLLYWOOD RED CARPET
HE'S GOT A GOOD WAY OF JUST AS
MARIANNE SAYS, GETTING HIS NAM
OUT AND CREATING THAT NAME
RECOGNITION.
>> DRESS UP AS A CHICKEN ONC
TO -
>> HE DRESSED UP
>> HE HAD AN AID DRESS UP AS A
CHICKEN ONCE
>> WHETHER THIS TRANSLATES INT
ANY VOTES, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T SAY.
IT'S CERTAINLY -
>> FREE MEDIA BEING EARNED B
CLEVERNESS
>> RIGHT
>> CORY BOOKER HAD AN EVENT WHEN
HE DID GET BACK TO TOWN, HE GO
BACK ON TUESDAY.
GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK O
MASSACHUSETTS WAS IN FOR HIM O
TUESDAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T APPEA
TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH PATRICK DID
FOUR EVENTS IN NEW JERSEY.
THE NEXT DAY, BOOKER DID APPEA
WITH GOVERNOR CHRISTIE AT AN
EVENT WHERE THEY CUT A RIBBON AT
A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROJEC
RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN
NEWARK CALLED TEACHERS VILLAGE
AN IMPRESSIVE PROJECT.
AND WHEN BOOKER SPOKE, HE,
TOWARD THE END OF HIS SPEECH
THAT DAY, HE EXHIBITED SOME OF
THE SOARING RHETORIC HE'
CAPABLE OF AND THAT HE'S KIND OF
FAMOUS FOR AND HERE'S A LITTLE
SNIP-IT OF IT.
>> FREEDOM IN AMERICA NOW MORE
THAN EVER IS NOT ABOUT PHYSICA
BONDAGE.
IT'S ABOUT LIBERATING THE MIND
OF OUR PEOPLE.
TOO MANY OF OUR CHILDREN ARE
TRAPPED IN THAT CONFINING CELL
OF MEDIOCRITY AND IGNORANC
BECAUSE WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE NO
PROVIDING THEM A QUALITY
EDUCATION.
THIS IS THE KAUFL OUR TIME AND
OUR GENERATION
>> THAT'S THE KIND OF SPEECH
THAT HE IS GOING TO GIVE ON TH
SENATE FLOOR THIS DAY IF THE
POLLS ARE CORRECT.
HOW IS HE DOING.
>> CHRISTIE HAD INTERESTING --
THEY BOTH HIGHLIGHTED THEI
AFFINITY FOR EACH OTHER OR THEIR
COMMON CAUSES.
>> BOOKER SAID I'M GOING TO GIVE
SOME GOV LOVE HERE
>> EXACTLY
I THINK ALSO TO GET TO YOU
POINT ABOUT THE RHETORIC AND THE
SPEECHES
YOU REALLY SAW IT IN THE
SPEECHES
I FORGET
BOOKER SPOKE FOR FIVE OR SIX
MINUTES AND CHRISTIE WAS 9
SECONDS.
HE WAS -
>> CHRISTIE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
TALKING MUCH THAT DAY.
>> YOU SAW THE TWO STYLES RIGH
AT WORK RIGHT THERE.
THEY BOTH ACCOMPLISHED WHAT --
>> CHRISTIE IS MUCH MORE
TALKATIVE THAN HE WAS THAT DAY
EITHER WASN'T FEELING WELL O
THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY SPEECHE
BY 6-YEAR-OLDS AND 12-YEAR-OLD
LEADING UP TO --
>> HE'S NOT A WORD WASTER.
HE DOESN'T SPEAK JUST TO B
HEARD.
HE USUALLY DOESN'T WANT TO SAY
ANYTHING UNLESS HE GETS IN, GETS
OUT AND HAS SOMETHING --
>> THEY SAT TOGETHER IN TH
AUDIENCE
THEY CUT THE RIBBON TOGETHER
BUT THEY ARE EACH BACKING TH
OTHER'S OPPONENT WITH A KIND O
WINK AND A NOD IS WHAT YOU
IMAGINE.
>> ROWAN CROSS PARTY LINES AND
WORK ACROSS THE AISLE.
FOR ME THROUGHOUT THAT SPEECH,
NO MATTER OUR CONFERENCES,
BETWEEN ME AND THE GOVERNOR, ONE
EATS MEAT.
THE OTHER IS VEGETARIAN.
>> HE SAID WE HAVE OUR
DIFFERENCES.
HE EATS MEAT, I'M VEGAN.
HE LIKES TO DRINK A BEER WHILE
WATCHING A GAME.
I DRINK GREEN TEA.
AND THEN THERE WAS A PUNCH LINE,
BUT I --
>> HE'S LOSING WEIGHT AND I'
GAINING WAIT
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT WAS THE PUNCH LINE.
>> IT DOES MAKE THES
ENDORSEMENTS SEEM A LITTLE
AWKWARD BECAUSE, I THINK,
PHRASE LIKE I'M GOING TO SHO
SOME GOV LOVE TODAY IN FRONT O
THE CAMERAS ON CHRISTIE LIKE
THAT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT KIND
OF NULLIFIES HIS SUPPORT O
BUONO.
>> THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S AL
WITH A WINK AND A NOD.
>> AND THE SAME FOR LONEGAN AN
CHRISTIE
WE KNOW THEY HAVE SOME HISTORY
THERE THAT WASN'T VERY
COMFORTABLE EITHER
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE OPTICS
IT WAS -- NOT SAYING IT WA
DESIGNED TO BE, BUT IT TURNE
INTO A VERY POLITICAL EVENT IN
THAT YOU HAD THE GOVERNOR AN
CHRISTIE WHO ARE ON OPPOSITE
SIDES OF EACH OTHER'S RACES.
YOU HAD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
LOOKING TO SUCCEED BOOKER WERE
THERE.
YOU HAD JOE DEE PRESIDING OVER
THE WHOLE THING.
THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICA
UNDERCURRENT OR POLITICA
ELEMENT TO IT.
EVEN IN THEIR SPEECHES THEY BOTH
SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.
>> THERE CERTAINLY WAS
WITH THE THREAT OF A GOVERNMEN
SHUTDOWN LOOMING IN WASHINGTON
D.C. AND THE REPUBLICANS DOW
THERE, BEING BLAMED LARGELY FO
IT, DOES ANY OF THAT SPILL OVE
ON TOLON GAN
>> WELL, CHRISTIE'S MAKING SUR
THAT DOESN'T SPILL ON TO ANY
RACE
SINCE HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN IN
THERE AND SAID THAT ANYONE
WHO -- ANYONE IN WASHINGTON, ANY
REPUBLICAN IN WASHINGTON WHO
LETS THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN IS
BEING IRRESPONSIBLE.
>> HE SAID THAT JUST YESTERDAY
I BELIEVE.
>> RIGHT
>> OR THURSDAY
SO THAT'S A REBUKE TO TH
REPUBLICANS IN THE NEW JERSE
DELEGATION IN THE HOUSE WH
MIGHT VOTE FOR -- OR WHO ALREADY
VOTED FOR THE -- FOR DEFUNDING
OBAMA CARE
>> OR SOME PEOPLE COUL
INTERPRET IT AS HE'S GOING O
THE NATIONAL STAGE AGAIN AND
TALKING TO REPUBLICANS
NATIONALLY
YOU KNOW -
>> HE'S STAKING OUT HIS POSITION
ON THE SIDE OF THE MODERATES
BASICALLY, RIGHT
>> UH-HUH.
>> HOW ABOUT LONEGAN
LONEGAN TOLD ME IN THE INTERVIEW
MONDAY THAT I'M NOT AFRAID OF
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
WE SHOULD HAVE THIS DEBATE, THIS
DISCUSSION OF ECONOMIC POLICY.
BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THA
IF THE WHOLE THING REALLY BLOW
UP OVER THE NEXT MONTH THAT IT
WON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF EFFECT
HERE IN NEW JERSEY IN BOTH THESE
RACES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> THE WAY THESE THINGS USUALL
PLAY OUT IS THEY GET -- BOTH
PARTIES GET A LOT OF TRACTIO
OUT OF THE TENSION AND FRICTION.
IT HAPPENED WITH THE BUDGET.
THE FEDERAL BUDGET WITH TH
FURLOUGHS.
IT PLAYS OUT EVERY DAY ON TH
NIGHTLY NEWS AND EACH PART
BLAMES EACH OTHER.
THEY BOTH GET TRACTION OUT O
IT
THERE'S A LOT OF SUSPENSE.
USUALLY BY THE END, IT'S
RESOLVED
>> EXCEPT THE DEBT CEILING THING
COMES TO A HEAD ON OCTOBER 17th.
THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE TH
BOOKER/LONEGAN ELECTION.
LET US MOVE ON TO THE GOVERNOR'S
RACE ITSELF.
GOVERNOR CHRISTIE PUT OUT TV A
NUMBER THREE THIS WEEK
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> BARBARA BUONO
JON CORZINE'S BUDGET CHAIR NOW
RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR
BUONO VOTED TO RAISE 154 TAXES
AND FEES
AND VOTED TO RAISE HER OWN PAY
40%.
HIGHER INCOME TAXES.
HIGHER SALES TAX
HIGHER TAXES ON HEALTH CARE.
HIGHER PAY FOR TRENTON
POLITICIANS.
BUONO VOTED FOR ALL OF THEM.
BARBARA BUONO, 154 HIGHER TAXE
FOR US
A PAY RAISE FOR HERSELF.
>> WHAT STRIKES ME IS THAT IT'
THE SAME AD THAT WE RAN LAST
WEEK EXCEPT IT WAS YELLOW LAST
WEEK AND THEY'VE TWEAKED IT TO
TAKE HE TWO THINGS THAT WERE
MOST TALKED ABOUT IN THE AD LAST
WEEK
THE 154 TAXES IN HER CAREER AN
THE PAY RAISE THAT SHE VOTED AND
THEY PUT THEM TOGETHER UP TOP AT
THE AD
OTHERWISE, TO ME, IT'S THE SAM
AD
WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE TO SA
ABOUT THAT, OR THE AD?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY -- THE
CHRISTIE ADMINISTRATION -- THE
CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN GOING
FOR ALL ALONG.
JUST HITTING, FIRST, IF YO
NOTICE, THEY'VE STILL CONNECTE
HER WITH JON CORZINE
AND THERE'S STILL TALKING ABOU
TAX INCREASES AND IF YOU WAN
THESE TAX INCREASES FO
YOURSELF, THEN VOTE FOR THEM
BUT IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU HAV
TO VOTE FOR US
>> THEY MAY ALSO HAVE TAKEN
SLIGHTLY CRAZIER PICTURE OF HE
IN THIS AD THAN IN THE ONE
BEFORE
>> VERY AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY.
BARBARA BUONO IS STILL NOT KNOWN
BY 40% OF VOTERS
AND FOR THEM TO BE PUTTING HER
NAME OUT THERE YOU KNOW,
PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THA
SHE HAS BY HERSELF AT THIS POINT
WITH THESE ATTACK ADS.
IT JUST SHOWS HOW HELLBENT THE
ARE, I WOULD SAY, AND LIKE
REALLY MAKING THIS IMPRESSION ON
VOTERS SHE'S GOING TO BE THE
WORST GOVERNOR EVER, IF YOU CARE
ABOUT TAXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> THEY ARE CONCERNED -- G
AHEAD.
>> THE BIG CONCERN THAT SHE HA
OR THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR HER
AT THIS POINT IS THAT BEING AT
SUCH A FUND-RAISIN
DISADVANTAGE
OVER $11 MILLION RIGHT NOW
>> IS IT
>> YEAH, YEAH, I BELIEVE WIT
ALL THE PUBLIC MATCHING FUNDS.
LAST I HAD SEEN.
CHRISTIE HAD OVER $11 MILLIO
MORE THAN HER.
>> WOW
>> IT ALLOWS HIM A PLATFORM TO
SORT OF SIT THERE AND THROW AL
THE STONES HE WANTS AND DEFINE
HER.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, VERY NEAR THE
ELECTION, SHE DOESN'
NECESSARILY HAVE ANY ABILITY T
FIRE BACK AND EITHER TRY TO TAKE
HIM DOWN OR TO DEFINE HERSEL
AS, NO, THIS IS ME
THIS IS NOT -- WHAT HE'S SAYIN
IS NOT REALLY ME
SHE'S AT THAT DISADVANTAGE
>> THE CHRISTIE CAMPAIGN'S
CONCERN IS THAT WITH THE
DEMOCRATIC REGISTRATIO
ADVANTAGE IN THE STATE, 700,000,
THAT AS THE ELECTION APPROACHES,
THINGS WILL SORT OF DRAW TO TH
LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OR TH
LEVEL OF PAST HISTORY AND THAT
THIS 20, 25, 30-POINT LEAD WIL
SUDDENLY DISAPPEAR
SO THIS IS DESIGNED TO
PROTECT -- TO PREVENT THAT FRO
HAPPENING.
>> I AGREE
RIGHT NOW YOU DRIVE THAT MESSAGE
HOME
REPEAT IT, REPEAT IT, REPEAT I
AND PAINT HER AS A TAX AND SPEND
LIBERAL WHO HAS BEEN RAISING
TAXES LIKE A DRUNK SAILOR.
THAT'S WHY THEY EVEN PICKED TH
PICTURES REALLY CAREFULLY THAT
SHE'S CARELESS, WHERE WE'R
CONSERVATIVES.
WE'RE FISCALLY SOUND AND
RESPONSIBLE IS CHRISTIE'
MESSAGE VERSUS WHAT YOU AR
GETTING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> WE BUMPED INTO BUONO ON
TUESDAY.
GOVERNOR DEVAL PATRICK WAS I
FOR BOOKER
DID FOUR EVENTS.
BOOKER WAS AT NONE OF THEM, BU
BUONO WAS AT ONE OF THEM A
RUTGERS, A RALLY AT THE --
OUTSIDE THE STUDENT CENTER A
RUTGERS.
WE ASKED HER HOW THINGS WERE
GOING.
LET'S HEAR HER
>> THE CAMPAIGN IS EXCITED
ENERGIZED.
WE ARE MOVING AHEAD.
AND WE OAR ARE -- I MEAN, WE ARE
BUZZING.
>> THERE'S A NEW POLL OUT TODAY,
QUINNIPIAC
YOU ARE DOWN BY 28
THAT'S NOT TOO GOOD.
>> I DON'T THINK LOOK AT THE
POLLS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEVA
PATRICK HERE
WHEN HE RAN FOR GOVERNOR, TH
PUNDITS DIDN'T SUPPORT HIM
EITHER
DEVAL BELIEVED IN THE PEOPLE AND
HE BELIEVED THE PEOPLE ARE MOR
IMPORTANT THAN THE PUNDITS
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY
>> WELL, PUNDITRY IS ONE THING
AND POLLS ARE ANOTHER.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO PU
A BRAVE FACE ON IT, BUT TH
TRUTH IS SHE'S BEEN FA
OUTFLANKED ON THE FUND-RAISING
STUFF AND THESE ADS THAT WE JUST
TALKED ABOUT, I THINK, ARE
HAVING AN EFFECT
HER APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE LOOKING
VERY GRIM RIGHT NOW SINCE THEY
STARTED RUNNING.
SO UNLESS SOMETHING MAJO
HAPPENS OR SHE BENEFITS FROM
SOME HUGE CHANGE IN SENTIMENT, I
JUST DON'T SEE HOW SHE CAN PUL
IT OFF AT THIS POINT
>> SHE IS PUTTING --
>> AND WE EVEN HAD THE STATE PBA
THAT DID NOT ENDORSE ANYONE IN
THE GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGN
AND IN HIS LETTER -- IN HI
MEMBERSHIP, HIS LETTER TO TH
MEMBERSHIP, PRESIDENT ANTHON
WEINER HAD SAID THAT THE
DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING BASICALL
A HALFHEARTED CAMPAIGN
YOU KNOW, THAT TELLS YOU
SOMETHING RIGHT THERE WHEN SHE'S
SAYING THE CAMPAIGN IS
ENERGIZED, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
AREN'T SEEING THAT
>> UH-HUH.
>> YOU HAVE TO WONDER, IT'
POLITICS 101
NEGATIVE ADS DON'T GET YOU ANY
VOTES.
BUT THEY SUPPRESS YOUR
OPPONENT'S VOTES
SO IF THINGS LIKE THAT, TH
PERCEPTION, YOU HAVE TO WONDER
IF AN ATTACK AD COMING FRO
CHRISTIE IS -- YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN
AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT
UNFETTERED WITH NO RESPONSE FROM
BUONO IS CREATING THAT
IMPRESSION
>> IS SHE PUTTING A BRAVE FACE
ON A BAD SITUATION
>> AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, SHE HAS
NO RESOURCES TO FIRE BACK.
THAT IS A SEVERE HANDICAP FO
HER WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TH
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GO BACK
OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY OR SAME
DAY WITH YOUR OWN ADS.
YOU CAN'T COUNTERPUNCH THE SAM
WAY HE'S PUNCHING YOU.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT
>> SHE APPEARED BEFORE THE NEW
JERSEY BLACK ISSUES CONVENTION
THE GOVERNOR WAS IN NEWARK WIT
BOOKER
THE NEXT DAY IN ORANGE WITH TH
MAYOR THERE.
SOME POLLING WAS DONE THIS WEE
ON THE MINORITY VOTES.
THE GOVERNOR IS DOING REASONABLY
WELL
30 SOMETHING PERCENT WHICH FOR A
REPUBLICAN IS REASONABLY WELL.
YES?
NO
>> YEAH, HE STARTED IN 2009, H
GOT 9% OF THE MINORITY VOTE.
SO TO COME THIS FAR, HE, YOU
KNOW, HE'S FEELING PRETTY GOOD
ABOUT THAT AND WANTS T
CAPITALIZE ON THAT, WHIL
BARBARA BUONO IS LOOKING AT IT
AS A PLACE WHERE SHE MAY B
SLIPPING AND HAS TO GO BACK IN
THERE AND TRY TO GET SOME VOTE
THERE.
>> THAT WAS AN EARLY CAMPAIG
STRATEGY OF THE GOVERNOR'S AND
THE REPUBLICANS WAS TO SHORE U
YOUR VOTE AND MOVE BEYOND TH
TYPICAL BASE AND REPUBLICANS
JUST IN TERMS OF BLOWING UP TH
LEVEL OF THE PLURALITY
AND SHORING UP YOUR FLANK IN
CASE THERE WAS MORE OF A
CHALLENGE THAN ANTICIPATED
>> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME
WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SUBJECT
DUNES.
MARIANNE, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING
WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT TH
SHORE.
THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT BETWEEN
THE FAMILY THAT HAD WON
$375,000 JUDGMENT AND THE STATE,
A $1 SETTLEMENT.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE
BUILDING OF DUNES AND TH
GRANTING OF EASEMENTS?
>> WELL, NOW AT THE SAME TIM
THAT THAT SETTLEMENT CAME DOWN
THE GOVERNOR ALSO SIGNED A
EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CREATES A
AGENCY WITHIN THE DEP THAT'S
GOING TO START GETTING THE BAL
ROLLING ON OBTAINING ALL THESE
EASEMENTS FROM THE THOUSAND OR
SO HOLD DLOUTS THAT ARE THERE.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTL
WHILE TO DO THAT BECAUSE A LOT
OF THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO
WIND UP IN COURT
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CHRISTIE
ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT
THIS AS MOMENTUM NOW TO GET THAT
BECAUSE THESE TOWNS ARE REALLY
WORRIED THAT THESE ARE DUNES FOR
THE TOWNS THAT NEVER HAD DUNES
CONSTRUCTED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF
ENGINEERS BEFORE
THEY ARE WORRIED WITH THIS
UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON THEY
DON'T HAVE MUCH THERE NOW.
AND EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T GOING
TO HELP THEM FOR THIS HURRICAN
SEASON, THEY ARE STILL LOOKING
INTO THE FUTURE, WHEN NORMALLY
THESE PROJECTS TAKE TWO OR THREE
YEARS TO GET TO FRUITION
THE ARMY CORPS HAS MADE THIS A
PRIORITY OF THEIRS
AND TOWNS OF HOPING THEY'L
ACTUALLY GET STARTED NEXT YEAR
>> SO IS THIS 1,000 FAMILIES
VERSUS THE STATE OVER TH
BUILDING OF DUNES?
>> IT COULD BE
SOME OF THEM ARE SAYING -- A
ATTORNEY I TALK TO WHO MAY B
REPRESENTING SOME OF THEM AR
SAYING, LOOK, WE JUST WANT T
PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
TO FAIR COMPENSATION FOR
PROPERTY THAT THE STATE'
TAKING
AND THAT THEY SEE THE GOVERNMENT
AS STRONG-ARMING THEM INTO
HANDING THIS PROPERTY OVER FOR
NOTHING.
AND THEY ARE SAYING, HEY, WE'R
INTITLED TO THAT
>> ON THAT NOTE, WE'VE GOT T
WRAP IT UP
THANKS VERY MUCH
WE'LL BE BACK WITH ANOTHER
"ROUNDTABLE" NEXT SATURDAY A
5:30 AND SUNDAY MORNING AT 9:00.
ON "ON THE RECORD," ASSEMBLY
LEADERS LOU GREENWALD AND JO
BRAMNICK LOOK AHEAD TO THE
LEGISLATIVE ELECTION
THAT'S SATURDAYS AT 2:00 P.M
AND SUNDAY MORNINGS AT 10:00
FOR FULL COVERAGE OF ENGIN
POLITICS, WATCH "NJ TODAY" WIT
MIKE SNIDER WEEKNIGHTS AT 6:00
7:30 AND 11:00
ALSO ON NJTV.ORG
>>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "REPORTERS
ROUNDTABLE" WITH MICHAEL ARON IS
PROVIDED BY --
PSE&G.
SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AN
INVESTING IN NEW JERSEY'
FUTURE
>>> PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED
BY NEW JERSEY BUSINESS MAGAZINE.
THE MAGAZINE OF THE NEW JERSEY
BUSINESS AND INDUSTR
ASSOCIATION.
REPORTING TO EXECUTIVE AND
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN ALL 2
COUNTIES OF THE GARDEN STATE
SINCE 1954