WEBVTT 00:03.833 --> 00:05.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> WELCOME BACK TO THIS SPECIAL 00:05.866 --> 00:07.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CORRESPONDENTS EDITION OF OFF 00:07.566 --> 00:08.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THE RECORDING FEATURING CHUCK 00:08.866 --> 00:09.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% STOKES, JOHN LINDSTROM, KATHY 00:09.966 --> 00:12.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% GRAY AND BILL BALLENGER. 00:12.700 --> 00:14.900 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% OUR LEAD STORY, A RENEWED PUSH 00:14.966 --> 00:17.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% TO CHANGE TERM LIMITS, LEGALIZED 00:17.833 --> 00:18.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% SPORTS BETTING READY TO MOVE, 00:19.000 --> 00:19.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% AND A TRIBUTE AND REFLECTIONS ON 00:19.800 --> 00:21.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% MICHIGAN'S LONGEST SERVING 00:21.533 --> 00:22.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% GOVERNOR, WILLIAM MILLIKEN. 00:22.933 --> 00:24.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET THE 00:24.500 --> 00:32.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% INSIDE, OUT,OFF THE RECORD. 00:32.366 --> 00:34.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% PRODUCTION OFF THE RECORD IS 00:34.366 --> 00:59.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% MADE POSSIBLE IN PART FROM... 00:59.166 --> 01:01.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND NOW THIS EDITION OF OFF THE 01:01.866 --> 01:02.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% RECORD. 01:02.233 --> 01:03.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 01:03.900 --> 01:06.900 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% WELCOME TO THIS BUSY EDITION OF 01:07.000 --> 01:08.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% OFF THE RECORD. 01:08.066 --> 01:11.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% WILL THE TERM LIMITS BEEN O THE 01:11.133 --> 01:11.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% BALLOT 2020? 01:12.000 --> 01:12.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% >> NO. 01:12.633 --> 01:14.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% >> MAYBE. 01:14.366 --> 01:15.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% >> OH COME ON. 01:15.366 --> 01:15.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% >> MAYBE. 01:15.933 --> 01:17.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% >> NO. 01:17.833 --> 01:19.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% >> NO. 01:19.366 --> 01:22.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> VOTERS NOT POLITICIANS ARE 01:22.333 --> 01:24.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% ENTERING THE CHANGE ARE THE 01:24.066 --> 01:25.833 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% DYNAMICS, DO WE GET A CHANGE OF 01:25.900 --> 01:26.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% HEART HERE? 01:26.433 --> 01:27.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% >> NO. 01:27.066 --> 01:30.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> IT MAKES IT A MORE POSSIBLE 01:30.700 --> 01:32.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% EVENT BUT IT IS STILL NOT QUITE 01:32.800 --> 01:33.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% THERE. 01:33.133 --> 01:35.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> YOU ASKED FOR A YES OR NO. 01:35.800 --> 01:38.866 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> VOTERS ARE NOT POLITICIANS, 01:38.933 --> 01:41.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE TOP 01:41.466 --> 01:41.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% ISSUES. 01:41.700 --> 01:42.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY 01:42.700 --> 01:44.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% ARE LOOKING AT. 01:44.233 --> 01:46.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> WE HAVE TO LAY THE FOUNDATION 01:46.466 --> 01:48.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% OF THE CONTINUING DISCUSSION. 01:48.533 --> 01:50.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> SINCE 1992 WHEN THE TERM 01:50.766 --> 01:53.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% LIMITS WERE VOTED IN BY THE 01:53.133 --> 01:54.666 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CITIZENS THERE HAS BEEN CHATTER 01:54.733 --> 01:57.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% ABOUT EXTENDING THE YEARS TO 01:57.766 --> 02:00.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% SERVE IN THE OFFICE TO THE 14 02:00.600 --> 02:01.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% YEAR LIMIT TO DATE. 02:01.833 --> 02:04.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE TALKS ARE OUT, BUT THIS TIME 02:04.166 --> 02:05.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. 02:05.233 --> 02:07.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THAT IS BECAUSE THE SPEAKER OF 02:08.033 --> 02:09.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE HOUSE, THE SENATE REPUBLICAN 02:09.733 --> 02:13.266 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% LEADER AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 02:13.333 --> 02:19.700 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND THE HEAD OF THE, VOTERS NOT 02:19.766 --> 02:22.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% POLITICIANS PUTTING THE ISSUE ON 02:22.766 --> 02:24.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% THE BALLOT. 02:24.100 --> 02:28.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% ARE THEY IN IN CHANGING THE TERM 02:28.300 --> 02:28.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% LIMITS? 02:28.633 --> 02:30.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% >> THE PASSION IS THERE. 02:30.166 --> 02:33.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:32.5% >> YES, I DO. 02:33.633 --> 02:35.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> HE WESTERNS THAT THE PROPOSAL 02:35.766 --> 02:37.466 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% NEEDS TO BE COUPLED, SWEETENED, 02:37.533 --> 02:39.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% IF YOU WILL, WITH ETHICAL 02:39.466 --> 02:40.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% REFORMS THAT WOULD WIN THE 02:40.866 --> 02:41.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% VOTERS OVER. 02:41.433 --> 02:43.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> YOU CAN PUT IN THE STRONG 02:43.200 --> 02:45.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% ETHICS REFORM TO GET IN SOME 02:45.066 --> 02:47.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% PROTECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC, MAYBE 02:47.666 --> 02:50.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% THEY'LL BE OPEN TO CHANGING 02:50.733 --> 02:51.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% THEM. 02:51.766 --> 02:54.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% >> SO SWEETENED A LITTLE? 02:54.600 --> 02:56.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% >> YES. 02:56.866 --> 02:58.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> SOME LIKE THE TERM LIMITS. 02:58.766 --> 03:01.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THE LONGER PEOPLE ARE HERE 03:01.233 --> 03:06.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% THE MORE DISTANCED FROM THE 03:06.566 --> 03:08.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% DISTRICTS AND INFLUENCED BY THE 03:08.800 --> 03:09.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% LOBBY CORE. 03:09.633 --> 03:13.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% IT IS GETTER TO GET IN AND OUT. 03:13.566 --> 03:19.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> THIS SENATE TURNED LOBBYISTS 03:19.066 --> 03:23.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THE TERM LIMITS DOESN'T FORM 03:23.100 --> 03:27.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% LONG ENOUGH TIME TO FORM THE 03:27.100 --> 03:27.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% RELATIONSHIPS. 03:28.033 --> 03:31.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% >> IT SAYS WE NEED MORE 03:31.400 --> 03:33.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% EXPERIENCED LEGISLATORS FOR THE 03:33.800 --> 03:35.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% BUDGET. 03:35.066 --> 03:36.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> IF MORE TIME TOGETHER THIS 03:36.466 --> 03:38.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% STUFF WOULDN'T HAPPEN? 03:38.800 --> 03:39.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% >> ABSOLUTELY. 03:40.000 --> 03:41.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 03:41.533 --> 03:43.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% OPTIONS, NO DEAL IS MADE, IF 03:43.533 --> 03:46.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THEY AGREE THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE 03:46.566 --> 03:48.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% TO RATIFY THE CHANGES IN 2020. 03:48.666 --> 03:50.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> CHUCK, WHEN YOU HEARD THIS 03:50.733 --> 03:53.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% STORY, WHAT DID YOU THINK? 03:53.700 --> 03:57.133 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> THE LEADERS HAVE COME TO THE 03:57.200 --> 03:58.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% REALIZATION THAT THE TERM LIMITS 03:58.833 --> 03:59.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% ARE A PROBLEM. 03:59.800 --> 04:01.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% IT IS NOT WORKING LIKE THE 04:01.766 --> 04:05.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WOULD DO. 04:05.233 --> 04:08.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THE AVERAGE PERSON LIKES THE 04:08.400 --> 04:08.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% IDEA. 04:08.866 --> 04:10.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% THEY ARE NOT READ YOU TO 04:10.333 --> 04:13.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% OVERTURN IT. 04:13.266 --> 04:16.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> THERE WILL BE POISON PILLS ON 04:16.266 --> 04:21.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% THERE PEALING THE PEOPLE AWAY. 04:21.166 --> 04:24.166 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THEY DON'T LIKE THE LOBBY ISSUE 04:24.233 --> 04:25.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% CONNECTED TO IT. 04:25.100 --> 04:28.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> CLOSING THE REINVOLVING DOOR? 04:28.800 --> 04:32.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> THE CHAM PER WILL BE PAEM 04:32.200 --> 04:34.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% PEALED IF OTHER THINGS NOT 04:34.233 --> 04:35.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% ATTACHED TO IT. 04:35.466 --> 04:37.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% SO THERE'S JUST SO MANY MOVING 04:38.033 --> 04:38.933 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% PARTS TO THIS THAT I DON'T KNOW 04:39.000 --> 04:43.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% IF IT CAN GET THERE. 04:43.966 --> 04:44.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:5% >> 04:44.200 --> 04:47.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> PEOPLE GET, THE LONGER IN 04:47.500 --> 04:49.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% OFFICE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE 04:49.600 --> 04:51.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% DISTRICT, IF YOU COVER THE 04:51.300 --> 04:56.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% LEGISLATURE KNOWS THAT IS UTTER 04:56.133 --> 04:56.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% NONSENSE. 04:56.400 --> 04:59.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THE MORE YOU ADD TO THIS, THE 04:59.200 --> 05:01.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% MORE DIFFICULT IT BECOMES. 05:01.066 --> 05:02.366 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN PACKAGE IT 05:02.433 --> 05:05.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% AS A CONTINUATION OF THE TERM 05:05.600 --> 05:07.666 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% LIMITS BUT IN A DIFFERENT FORM 05:07.733 --> 05:13.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% SO THEY GET A LITTLE MORE 05:13.333 --> 05:13.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% EXPERIENCE. 05:13.666 --> 05:15.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET THE 05:15.266 --> 05:18.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% PUBLIC TO PUT A PETITION ON. 05:18.466 --> 05:20.300 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CAN YOU GET ENOUGH VOTES IN THE 05:20.366 --> 05:21.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% LEGISLATURE. 05:21.166 --> 05:23.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> THAT IS AN A HEAVY LIFT. 05:23.966 --> 05:27.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> YES, THE MORE YOU ADD TO IT, 05:27.633 --> 05:33.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% THE MORE PEOPLE YOUR TURN OFF. 05:33.166 --> 05:37.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> WE WERE SURPRISED THAT THE 05:37.633 --> 05:39.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% VOTERS DID WHAT THEY DID. 05:39.700 --> 05:41.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% SAID OH YEAH THIS IS A CLEAN 05:41.666 --> 05:43.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% SHOT AND GETTING THIS DOWN, 05:43.233 --> 05:43.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% RIGHT? 05:43.533 --> 05:45.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THEY ARE GOING TO GET TERM 05:45.300 --> 05:46.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% LIMITS DONE? 05:46.466 --> 05:48.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> SHE SAID WE ARE PASSIONATE 05:48.366 --> 05:49.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% ABOUT IT. 05:49.400 --> 05:52.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% IF THIS GROUP OF 16,000 PLUS, 05:52.166 --> 05:53.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% YOU ARE NOT BUYING THIS? 05:53.433 --> 05:57.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% >> NO, I BUY A LOT OF IT. 05:57.633 --> 06:01.366 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% LOOK, KATHY HAS IT RIGHT MOVING 06:01.433 --> 06:02.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% PARTS. 06:02.500 --> 06:05.333 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% SO MANY HERE AND TWO-THIRDS OF 06:05.400 --> 06:08.166 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THE CHAMBER AND IT HAS TO PASS. 06:08.233 --> 06:13.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED 06:13.066 --> 06:15.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% ABOUT YET IS WE WILL THEY ARE 06:15.600 --> 06:17.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS. 06:17.166 --> 06:22.033 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THAT IS NOT A WAY TO SELL IT TO 06:22.100 --> 06:22.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% THE PUBLIC. 06:22.866 --> 06:24.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% DO IT THE WAY ARKANSAS AND 06:24.466 --> 06:26.433 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CALIFORNIA DID IT, KEEP THE CAP 06:26.500 --> 06:31.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% AT 14 YEARS AND MAKE MORE 06:32.033 --> 06:32.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% FLEXIBLE. 06:32.900 --> 06:34.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> THAT DOESN'T BUY WHAT YOU ARE 06:34.966 --> 06:35.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% LOOKING FOR? 06:35.466 --> 06:37.200 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> IT BOUGHT THEM THE APPROVAL 06:37.266 --> 06:39.200 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% FROM THE VOTERS IN ARKANSAS AND 06:39.266 --> 06:41.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% CALIFORNIA THAT CHANGED THE TERM 06:41.333 --> 06:44.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% LIMIT STATUTE TO MAKE IT THAN WE 06:44.466 --> 06:47.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:42.5% HAVE IN MICHIGAN. 06:47.300 --> 06:54.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% WE HAVE THE MOST KER CONIAN. 06:54.166 --> 06:56.433 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> IF IT IS TO KEEP THE PEOPLE 06:56.500 --> 06:58.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% IN TOWN LONGER IT IS NOT GETTING 06:58.733 --> 06:59.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% YOU THERE. 06:59.400 --> 07:01.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> ARE THEY GOING TO GRANDFATHER 07:01.266 --> 07:02.466 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% IN THE CURRENT MEMBERS THAT IS 07:02.533 --> 07:03.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% NOT GOOD. 07:03.333 --> 07:05.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> YOU HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT 07:05.333 --> 07:08.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THAT TO THE VOTER DOESN'T MAKE 07:09.033 --> 07:11.866 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% IT SEEM LIKE YOU ARE BECOMING A 07:11.933 --> 07:13.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% TERM POLITICIAN FOREVER. 07:13.066 --> 07:14.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% THEY DON'T LIKE THAT. 07:14.600 --> 07:16.333 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THEY DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL AND 07:16.400 --> 07:17.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THEY DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT 07:17.800 --> 07:19.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% YOU HAVE BECOME A CAREER 07:19.533 --> 07:19.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% POLITICIAN. 07:19.933 --> 07:20.766 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% IF YOU CAN GIVE THEM SOMETHING 07:20.833 --> 07:22.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% TO LOOK AT AND SAY OKAY, IT 07:23.000 --> 07:29.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GIVES A LITTLE MORE TIME BUT NOT 07:29.100 --> 07:31.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% OUTRAGEOUS PERIOD OF TIME. 07:31.466 --> 07:36.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> 20 YEARS, THEY CAN BUMP IT UP 07:36.366 --> 07:39.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% TO 16 YEARS. 07:39.733 --> 07:41.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THAT ISN'T A BIG CHANGE, BUT 07:41.700 --> 07:42.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% WOULD PROVIDE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU 07:42.733 --> 07:45.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% TAKE THE LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OR 07:45.566 --> 07:47.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% INCREASE THE ELEMENT ON THE 07:47.666 --> 07:49.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% NUMBER OF THE TERMS YOU CAN 07:49.933 --> 07:50.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SERVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE HOUSE. 07:51.033 --> 07:52.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% THAT CHANGES THE DYNAMIC. 07:53.000 --> 07:54.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% BEFORE THE TERM LIMITS HOW LONG 07:54.800 --> 07:56.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% WAS THE AMPLE PERSON IN THE 07:56.733 --> 07:58.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% LEGISLATURE, TAKE OUT BET BEATTY 07:58.766 --> 08:00.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% AND DICK YOUNG AND HARRY AND 08:00.366 --> 08:02.666 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% GUYS LIKE THAT, THE AVERAGE WAS 08:02.733 --> 08:03.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% 12 YEARS, TOTAL. 08:03.833 --> 08:07.133 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> BUT THEY SPENT IT ALL IN THE 08:07.200 --> 08:08.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% HOUSE OR THE SENATE. 08:08.966 --> 08:11.033 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THEY DEVELOPED A CERTAIN DEGREE 08:11.100 --> 08:12.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:32.5% OF EXPERTISE. 08:12.333 --> 08:14.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> IF THEY LOAD AND LARD THIS UP 08:14.333 --> 08:17.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% WITH SO MANY ISSUES YOU HAVE THE 08:17.133 --> 08:18.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION IS IT 08:18.833 --> 08:20.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CONSTITUTIONAL TO PUT IT ON THE 08:20.866 --> 08:21.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% BALLOT. 08:21.466 --> 08:23.566 align:start position:15% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> AREN'T THEY REALLY TALKING 08:23.633 --> 08:26.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GETTING THE LEGISLATION TO ENACT 08:26.800 --> 08:29.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE STATUTES AND LAWS THAT WOULD 08:29.166 --> 08:31.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% BE IN PLACE IF THE PROPOSAL 08:31.066 --> 08:32.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% PASSES ON THE BALLOT. 08:32.933 --> 08:36.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% JUST A CLEAN NEAT TERM LIMITS 08:36.866 --> 08:39.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% ALTERATION AND IF THIS PASSES 08:39.600 --> 08:42.100 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THE ETHICS REFORM STUFF KICKS N 08:42.166 --> 08:43.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% BY STATUTE. 08:43.566 --> 08:44.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% >> NOT UNTIL AND UNLESS. 08:45.033 --> 08:45.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% >> RIGHT. 08:45.566 --> 08:47.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% EXACTLY, THAT IS ONE OF THE 08:47.566 --> 08:49.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% APPROACHES THEY ARE TAKING, 08:49.233 --> 08:51.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% PROBABLY THAT IS A LOT BETTER. 08:51.900 --> 08:56.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% IF YOU LOAD IT UP LIKE A 08:56.133 --> 08:57.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CHRISTMAS TREE YOU ARE ASKING 08:57.833 --> 08:59.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% FOR TROUBLE. 08:59.066 --> 09:00.833 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> THEY DID THAT YEARS AGO AND 09:00.900 --> 09:01.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% IT DIED. 09:01.833 --> 09:03.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% >> YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. 09:03.800 --> 09:06.600 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% IF NOTHING ELSE IN GETTING THE 09:06.666 --> 09:08.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% VMP ON THE BALLOT IT IS LIMITED 09:08.800 --> 09:10.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% TO ONE ISSUE, THE OPPONENTS OF 09:10.866 --> 09:13.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% IT WERE SAYING IT IS REFORM 09:13.666 --> 09:17.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% COFFERING THE WATERFRONT. 09:17.066 --> 09:18.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% VMP WAS LIMITED TO ONE ISSUE. 09:19.033 --> 09:20.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THEY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ADDING 09:20.866 --> 09:22.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% ON MORE ISSUES. 09:22.666 --> 09:25.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% YOU CAN DO IT IN SEPARATE 09:25.433 --> 09:27.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS, ONE 09:27.566 --> 09:30.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% ON THE TERM LIMITS AND ONE ON 09:30.733 --> 09:30.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% ETHICS. 09:30.966 --> 09:34.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> KEEP IN MIND WHEN THE TERM 09:34.133 --> 09:40.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% LIMITATION CAME IN IT WAS IN 09:40.933 --> 09:41.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% PARTSON ATMOSPHERE. 09:41.766 --> 09:43.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD. 09:43.866 --> 09:46.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% >> THE VMP PEOPLE ARE MORE 09:46.233 --> 09:48.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% INTERESTED IN THE LAME DUCK 09:48.066 --> 09:50.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% STUFF AND THEY THOUGHT THAT 09:50.366 --> 09:50.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% RESONATED. 09:50.733 --> 09:52.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION DURING 09:52.433 --> 09:54.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THE HOLIDAY LAST YEAR AND 400 09:54.400 --> 09:55.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% BILLS. 09:55.533 --> 09:56.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% 400 BILLS. 09:56.533 --> 10:01.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THEY DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE 10:01.200 --> 10:03.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% LAME DUCK BUT MAKE IT A TWO 10:03.400 --> 10:04.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THIRDS VOTE TO PASS ANYTHING. 10:04.600 --> 10:06.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% THAT MAKES IT TOUGHER. 10:06.666 --> 10:08.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% THEY WOULD START A PETITION 10:09.033 --> 10:10.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% DRIVE ON THIS THING. 10:10.100 --> 10:12.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% >> VMP IS ALL FOR THAT. 10:13.033 --> 10:16.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% THAT IS NOT SOMETHING 10:16.200 --> 10:17.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% LEGISLATORS ARE VERY EXCITED 10:17.766 --> 10:19.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% ABOUT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 10:19.533 --> 10:19.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% PROPOSAL. 10:19.866 --> 10:22.200 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A 10:22.266 --> 10:23.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% BILL THEY DON'T LIKE TO GET A 10:23.900 --> 10:25.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% LONGER TERM LIMIT. 10:25.366 --> 10:27.433 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> HOW MANY PILLS DO WE HAVE TO 10:27.500 --> 10:28.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% TAKE? 10:28.300 --> 10:30.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THAT DEPENDS OPEN WIDE AND 10:30.333 --> 10:31.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% WHAT IS THE CHASER. 10:31.700 --> 10:33.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THE OTHER THINGS WILL KILL 10:33.766 --> 10:34.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:7.5% IT. 10:34.633 --> 10:35.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LAME 10:35.633 --> 10:37.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% DUCK KILLING IT. 10:37.366 --> 10:39.666 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> I REMEMBER A LONG TIME AGO, 10:39.733 --> 10:41.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% 20 YEARS AGO, DICK WAS THE 10:41.966 --> 10:45.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% MAJORITY LEADER IN THE SENATE 10:45.066 --> 10:46.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% AND HE SAID DO AWAY WITH THE 10:46.900 --> 10:47.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% LAME DUCK. 10:47.566 --> 10:51.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THE DEMOCRATS WON THE HOUSE AND 10:52.033 --> 10:52.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LAKE DUCK 10:53.000 --> 10:54.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% SESSION WAS SHOVED WITH HUNDREDS 10:54.200 --> 10:56.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% OF BILLS AND THAT IS WHAT 10:56.366 --> 10:57.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% HAPPENED THE LAST TIME. 10:57.633 --> 11:02.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE REASON THEY HAD 400 BILLS, A 11:02.733 --> 11:03.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% DEMOCRAT 11:03.966 --> 11:09.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% DEMOCRAT WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR. 11:09.166 --> 11:12.266 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> ONE OTHER HURDLE, IF YOU ARE 11:12.333 --> 11:14.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% THE MINORITY, WHAT IS THE 11:14.400 --> 11:19.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% QUICKEST WAY TO GET TO A 11:19.533 --> 11:22.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% MAJORITY, OPEN SEATS AND TERM 11:22.966 --> 11:25.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% LIMITS OPENS THE SEATS. 11:25.633 --> 11:27.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THE MINORITY ALWAYS TENDS TO 11:27.500 --> 11:27.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% FAVOR. 11:27.733 --> 11:30.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% SO YOU ARE ASKING THE DEMOCRATS, 11:30.433 --> 11:31.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% WHATEVER, LET'S PEOPLE STAY HERE 11:32.000 --> 11:34.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% FOREVER, THE REPUBLICANS GOT THE 11:34.600 --> 11:36.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% MAJORITY, LET'S JUST LET THEM 11:36.400 --> 11:38.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% STAY A WHILE LONGER. 11:38.533 --> 11:41.866 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THEY ARE NOT SO EAGER FOR THAT. 11:41.933 --> 11:45.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> I SENSE I CHANGED NOBODY'S 11:45.833 --> 11:47.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% MINDS HERE. 11:47.133 --> 11:48.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> THE QUESTION IS HAVE YOU 11:48.400 --> 11:49.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% CHANGED YOUR MIND? 11:49.733 --> 11:50.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% >> NOPE. 11:50.600 --> 11:52.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% I KNOW I'M RIGHT, RIGHT? 11:52.400 --> 11:53.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, WE 11:53.700 --> 11:56.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% ARE HEARING JINGLES, SOME 11:56.066 --> 11:57.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% POSITIVE SIGNS FROM THE 11:57.533 --> 12:00.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GOVERNOR, AND THE TWO REPUBLICAN 12:00.833 --> 12:02.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% LEADERS THEY MIGHT FIND A MIDDLE 12:02.900 --> 12:03.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% GROUND ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE 12:03.533 --> 12:08.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% BOARD. 12:08.366 --> 12:09.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> LOOK EVERYBODY KNOWS BECAUSE 12:09.700 --> 12:12.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% IT IS TALKED ABOUT A LONG TIME, 12:12.133 --> 12:14.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO COME 12:14.133 --> 12:16.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% TO AN AGREEMENT AND MAKE THE 12:16.400 --> 12:17.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% CHANGES HERE, THEY ARE UPSET 12:17.700 --> 12:18.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% WITH THE GOVERNOR FOR THE 12:18.966 --> 12:19.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% TRANSFER THING. 12:19.500 --> 12:22.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THERE IS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT 12:22.066 --> 12:22.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% LEGALLY. 12:22.633 --> 12:23.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% >> SHE HAS THE POWER. 12:23.966 --> 12:27.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> SHE HAS THE POWER AND NO 12:27.666 --> 12:31.333 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% GOVERNOR WOULD TURN AROUND AND 12:31.400 --> 12:33.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% SURRENDER THAT POWER. 12:34.000 --> 12:37.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% HOW DO YOU PLAY NICE AND FAIR. 12:37.200 --> 12:40.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% LT OKAY, I WON'T USE THE 12:40.666 --> 12:43.933 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% TRANSFER IF YOU DO XYZ AND THEN 12:44.000 --> 12:45.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THERE IS A CONSCIOUS PROBLEM. 12:45.600 --> 12:47.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> THEY ARE HEARING FROM THE 12:47.066 --> 12:49.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CONSTITUENTS, THE LAWMAKERS AND 12:49.066 --> 12:51.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GOVERNOR, THIS IS IMPACTING BACK 12:51.633 --> 12:55.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% HOME WITH ROAD PATROLS, WITH THE 12:55.466 --> 12:57.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CHARTER SCHOOLS, SO THOSE ARE 12:57.866 --> 12:59.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE TO BE 12:59.366 --> 13:00.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% HEARING FROM AND SO THEY 13:01.000 --> 13:02.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING NEEDS 13:02.133 --> 13:02.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% TO BE DONE. 13:02.833 --> 13:04.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> THAT IS WHAT THE GOVERNOR 13:04.900 --> 13:09.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% WANTED TO HAVE HAPPENED, WHY SHE 13:09.100 --> 13:11.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% CHOSE THOSE TARGETS. 13:11.933 --> 13:13.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% IF I WAS THE GOVERNOR I WOULD 13:13.766 --> 13:15.466 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% SIT BACK AND MAKE THEM SWEAT A 13:15.533 --> 13:16.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% LITTLE MORE. 13:16.133 --> 13:19.600 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> THE FEELING IS MUTUAL ON THE 13:19.666 --> 13:20.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% OTHER SIDE. 13:20.433 --> 13:23.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THEY ARE SAYING HE'S GOT THE 13:23.966 --> 13:24.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% PROBLEM. 13:24.200 --> 13:26.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% THEY ARE HER'S VETOES. 13:26.433 --> 13:30.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> WHEN DO THEY COME UP FOR 13:30.733 --> 13:31.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% ELECTION. 13:31.066 --> 13:32.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> SHE SAID I PROMISE I WON'T 13:32.766 --> 13:35.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% USE THE RERANGEMENT OF THE 13:35.633 --> 13:37.666 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% BUDGET THING AGAIN, IF YOU GIVE 13:37.733 --> 13:39.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% ME SUPPLEMENTAL. 13:39.133 --> 13:41.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% >> FOR THIS BUDGET. 13:41.200 --> 13:43.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> IN RETURN, SHE ASKED THEM 13:43.533 --> 13:45.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% DON'T LEAVE ME OUT OF THE NEXT 13:45.566 --> 13:46.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% BUDGET PROCESS AND WE HAVE A 13:46.833 --> 13:46.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% DEAL. 13:47.033 --> 13:48.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% THIS IS A FIVE MINUTE 13:48.633 --> 13:49.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% NEGOTIATION, FOLKS. 13:49.866 --> 13:51.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> I AGREE WITH JOHN, MAYBE THEY 13:51.933 --> 13:53.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% HAVE TO DO IT PIECE BY PIECE, 13:53.933 --> 13:55.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THEY HAVE TO GET THE GOVERNOR 13:55.800 --> 13:57.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND THE TWO LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 13:57.466 --> 13:59.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% BEFORE THE LIGHTS WITH THE 13:59.433 --> 14:02.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CAMERAS ROLLING AND HAVE THEM 14:02.366 --> 14:04.033 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% EACH SAY OKAY, THEY ARE SENDING 14:04.100 --> 14:05.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% ME THIS AND I'M SIGNING IT AND 14:05.866 --> 14:08.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING 14:08.500 --> 14:12.133 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRANSFER, 14:12.200 --> 14:15.033 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% PUT IT IN WRITING AND EVERYONE 14:15.100 --> 14:17.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% WILL SEE IT ON THE 6:00 NEWS, 14:17.100 --> 14:19.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% SAVE THE TAPE AND GET IT DONE 14:19.100 --> 14:20.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% AND THAT IS IT AND MOVE ON TO 14:20.800 --> 14:22.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:32.5% THE NEXT ONE. 14:22.766 --> 14:24.533 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% WHETHER IT IS IN ONE SWOOP WITH 14:24.600 --> 14:26.266 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% EVERYTHING IN A BIG PACKAGE OR 14:26.333 --> 14:28.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% PIECE BY PIECE, I DON'T KNOW. 14:28.400 --> 14:30.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. 14:30.666 --> 14:32.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> THEY ARE STARTING TO HEAR 14:32.133 --> 14:33.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% FROM THE CONSTITUENTS. 14:33.500 --> 14:35.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THEY ARE STARTING TO HEAR FROM 14:35.066 --> 14:36.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% THE AVERAGE JOE. 14:36.466 --> 14:38.600 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THEY ARE STARTING TO HEAR FROM 14:38.666 --> 14:40.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% THE LOBBYIST, YOU HAVE PURE 14:40.700 --> 14:42.166 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% MICHIGAN AND A NUMBER OF THINGS 14:42.233 --> 14:44.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% IN A TOURIST STATE THAT ARE 14:44.866 --> 14:49.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% VERY, VERY POPULAR AND HEARING 14:49.866 --> 14:53.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THE COMPARISONS FROM COLORADO 14:53.566 --> 14:55.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% AND NOW THEY ARE DOING NEARLY AS 14:55.766 --> 14:55.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% WELL. 14:55.966 --> 14:58.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% AND THEY ARE HEARING FROM THE 14:58.533 --> 15:00.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% POWERFUL PEOPLE ON THAT ISSUE 15:00.133 --> 15:03.933 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND OTHER ISSUES AND I THINK IS 15:04.000 --> 15:05.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% GOING TO WEAR. 15:05.533 --> 15:07.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% AS YOU GET CLOSER TO DECEMBER 15:07.066 --> 15:08.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THEY 15:08.466 --> 15:10.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. 15:10.233 --> 15:11.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% >> DOES SHE BEAT UP ON THE 15:11.833 --> 15:13.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% LEGISLATORS FOR GOING HUNTING 15:13.800 --> 15:15.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% WITH THIS UNRESOLVED. 15:15.466 --> 15:16.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% >> WHAT ELSE IS NEW? 15:16.533 --> 15:19.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> IF THERE IS A SENSE THIS IS 15:19.466 --> 15:22.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% COMING TOGETHER AND SHE'S NOT 15:22.366 --> 15:25.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% SAYING SQUAT ABOUT THAT, THAT 15:25.133 --> 15:27.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% INDICATES THEY ARE MAKING THE 15:27.633 --> 15:28.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% PROGRESS. 15:28.066 --> 15:30.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% THEY WERE GONE ALL SUMMER. 15:30.800 --> 15:31.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% NOBODY GAVE A SQUAT. 15:31.900 --> 15:33.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> HUNTING IS NOT GOING TO HELP 15:33.700 --> 15:34.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:10% HER. 15:34.100 --> 15:36.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% WHILE THAT IS A SMALL 15:36.200 --> 15:38.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% POPULATION, AND THE FOLKS WHO 15:38.766 --> 15:40.333 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% ARE HUNTING MAYBE DON'T SUPPORT 15:40.400 --> 15:41.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% HER ANY WAY. 15:41.466 --> 15:43.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% BUT THAT'S A BIG TRADITION IN 15:43.300 --> 15:43.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% MICHIGAN. 15:43.833 --> 15:46.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> YES, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC 15:46.133 --> 15:47.933 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SAYS THEY SHOULD BE IN TOWN AND 15:48.000 --> 15:49.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% WORKING ON THE UNRESOVED 15:49.900 --> 15:50.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% PROBLEM. 15:50.233 --> 15:53.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> IF THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE ON 15:53.333 --> 15:56.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% GOING THROUGH THE HUNTING 15:56.433 --> 15:59.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SEASON, SHE BETTER KEEP THE LIP 15:59.700 --> 16:00.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% BUTTONED. 16:00.866 --> 16:03.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% MAYBE IN THE SPRING, THE GUYS 16:03.500 --> 16:05.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% SIX MONTHS WENT HUNTING, NOT 16:05.333 --> 16:06.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:10% NOW. 16:06.500 --> 16:09.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> THE SPEAKER SUGGEST PUT A CAP 16:09.766 --> 16:13.533 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% ON THE REARRANGEMENT SHE CAN DO 16:13.600 --> 16:14.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% IN THE BUDGET. 16:14.533 --> 16:16.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% IF CHEF AGREED NOT TO USE IT, IT 16:16.466 --> 16:17.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% IS A MOOT ISSUE. 16:18.000 --> 16:21.900 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> EXCEPT THEY WANT IT IN THERE 16:21.966 --> 16:23.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% PERMANENTLY AND SHE HAS TO HAVE 16:23.066 --> 16:27.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% A WAY TO GET THINGS DONE IN A 16:27.233 --> 16:29.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% DIVIDED GOVERNMENT OTHERWISE SHE 16:29.333 --> 16:31.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% WON'T GET ANYTHING DONE. 16:31.633 --> 16:36.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% >> GOVERNOR MILLIKEN HAS A 16:36.966 --> 16:38.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% DIVIDED GOVERNMENT. 16:38.100 --> 16:39.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% >> HE HAD RELATIONSHIPS. 16:39.800 --> 16:45.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> SHE WANTS TO MODEL THE GOVERN 16:45.200 --> 16:45.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% SHIP ON HIM. 16:45.966 --> 16:48.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% SO FAR THAT IS NOT WORKING. 16:48.866 --> 16:53.366 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> IET IT HAS BEEN A BAD COUPLE 16:53.433 --> 16:54.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% OF MONTHS. 16:54.300 --> 16:57.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% LOOK AT THE STORY. 16:57.066 --> 16:59.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> LITTLE DID WE KNOW ON THAT 16:59.366 --> 17:03.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% BEAUTIFUL AND SUMMER DAY IN 17:03.266 --> 17:10.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% JUNE 2006 IN TRAVERSE CITY 17:10.600 --> 17:13.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% MILLIKENS WERE RECORDING THE 17:13.366 --> 17:14.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% LAST TV EXIT INTERVIEW AND 17:14.600 --> 17:19.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% WITHIN SIX YEARS SHE DIED AND 17:19.933 --> 17:21.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% LAST FRIDAY HE DIED. 17:21.466 --> 17:23.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% BOTH MAKING HISTORY. 17:23.266 --> 17:24.866 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SHE HAS AN ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S 17:24.933 --> 17:36.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% RIGHTS AND HE AS A STRONG 17:36.933 --> 17:38.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% BIPARTISAN GOVERNOR. 17:38.366 --> 17:40.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% HE WAS NEVER SURE HE WOULD 17:40.333 --> 17:42.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% SURVIVE IN COMBAT. 17:42.633 --> 17:45.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% HE CARRIED WITH HIM A GIFT FROM 17:45.466 --> 17:45.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% HIS MOM. 17:45.900 --> 17:47.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:35% A SMALL BIBLE. 17:47.566 --> 17:49.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> WHERE DID YOU KEEP THE BIBLE? 17:49.800 --> 17:51.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:50% >> NEXT TO MY HEART. 17:51.233 --> 17:52.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:32.5% >> IT WORKED. 17:52.266 --> 17:53.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% >> IT DID, IT HELPED. 17:54.033 --> 17:56.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% >> ONE OF THE HALLMARKS, 17:56.800 --> 17:58.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% INTEGRITY LEARNED AT THE KNEE OF 17:58.266 --> 17:59.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% HIS DAD. 17:59.166 --> 18:02.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% >> HE WAS A VERY OPEN, VERY 18:02.733 --> 18:05.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% FAIR, VERY HONEST PERSON WHO 18:05.466 --> 18:08.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% SAID WHAT HE THOUGHT AND 18:08.600 --> 18:12.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% WOULDN'T DREAM OF DISEM BLING IN 18:12.533 --> 18:13.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% ANY WAY. 18:13.933 --> 18:16.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> A GOOD GOVERNOR HAD TO TAKE A 18:16.400 --> 18:20.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% TOUGH STAND AND NOT WORRY ABOUT 18:20.633 --> 18:22.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:42.5% BEING RE-ELECTED. 18:22.366 --> 18:24.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> ONE HAS TO SAY POLITICS BE 18:24.400 --> 18:25.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% DAMMED I WILL DO THE RIGHT 18:25.933 --> 18:26.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% THING. 18:26.133 --> 18:27.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% AND I WILL DO IT NOW. 18:27.600 --> 18:29.700 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> AMONG THE GOOD THINGS HE DID 18:29.766 --> 18:32.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% WAS WORK AS THE POLITICAL ODD 18:32.366 --> 18:35.300 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% COUPLE WITH DETROIT MAYOR YOUNG 18:35.366 --> 18:38.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% TO SEND THE TAX DOLLARS TO 18:38.233 --> 18:40.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% CULTURE INSTITUTIONS IN DETROIT. 18:40.833 --> 18:43.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% >> WE HAD SOME VERY TOUGH 18:43.866 --> 18:45.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% MOMENTS OVER THOSE YEARS BUT IN 18:45.566 --> 18:48.266 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THE END WE ENDED UP RESPECTING 18:48.333 --> 18:48.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% EACH OTHER. 18:48.933 --> 18:51.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% >> THE GOVERNOR REPORTS NO 18:51.166 --> 18:52.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% REGRETS ABOUT GOING INTO 18:52.466 --> 18:54.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% POLITICAL LIFE, BUT REGRETS 18:54.600 --> 18:56.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% SENDING HIS TWO CHILDREN TO 18:56.466 --> 18:59.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% BOARDING SCHOOL OUT EAST. 18:59.333 --> 19:00.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> IT WAS A TERRIBLE PRICE THAT 19:01.033 --> 19:03.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% WE PAID FOR IT. 19:03.200 --> 19:07.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% AND I'M SURE THEY PAID. 19:07.566 --> 19:09.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD HAVE 19:09.466 --> 19:11.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% DONE DIFFERENTLY BUT YET THE 19:11.566 --> 19:13.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% REGRETS STILL LINGER. 19:13.333 --> 19:15.266 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> THE GOVERNOR ADMITS HE MADE 19:15.333 --> 19:17.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% SOME MISTAKES BUT NEVER PUT 19:17.666 --> 19:20.866 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% HIMSELF ABOVE THE CITIZENS WHO 19:20.933 --> 19:22.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% ELECTED HIM TO SERVE THEM. 19:22.500 --> 19:27.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> I HAD SENSE OF COMMITMENT TO 19:27.066 --> 19:30.700 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% ADVANCE THE PUBLIC GOOD AND NOT 19:30.766 --> 19:32.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% ADVANCE MY OWN POLITICAL NARROW 19:32.700 --> 19:33.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% POLITICAL GOALS. 19:33.833 --> 19:35.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> AS THE GOVERNOR SAT ON THE 19:35.900 --> 19:38.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% SUN PORCH ON THAT DAY IN 19:38.500 --> 19:41.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% JUNE 2006, HE THOUGHT A LITTLE 19:41.133 --> 19:43.366 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% BIT ABOUT HIS LEGACY HOPING FOR 19:43.433 --> 19:43.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% THIS. 19:43.733 --> 19:48.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> THAT I HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO 19:48.800 --> 19:51.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% MAYBE IN SOME SMALL WAY TO A 19:51.633 --> 19:53.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% BETTER MICHIGAN. 19:54.000 --> 19:57.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% IF I THINK I CAN SAY THAT 30 19:57.900 --> 19:59.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% YEARS FROM NOW I WILL WILL BE 19:59.666 --> 20:00.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% SATISFIED. 20:00.133 --> 20:07.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% >> BOY, HE LOOKED GOOD. 20:07.733 --> 20:08.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% >> I REMEMBER WHEN THAT 20:08.500 --> 20:10.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% INTERVIEW CAME OUT AND I THOUGHT 20:10.733 --> 20:17.333 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% VERY INTERESTING, MY DAD WAS A 20:17.400 --> 20:19.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GUNNER AND OF THAT AGE HE DIDN'T 20:19.466 --> 20:21.466 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SEE THE COMBAT, HE WAS SUPPOSED 20:21.533 --> 20:25.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% TO GO TO EUROPE AND JAPAN. 20:25.566 --> 20:28.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% HE WOULD TELL ME ABOUT BEING A 20:28.633 --> 20:30.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% GUNNER, IN FRONT OF AN OPEN HOLE 20:31.000 --> 20:34.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% THE SIZE OF A GIANT WINDOW, 20:34.166 --> 20:37.166 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% HOLDING ON TO A MACHINE GUN AND 20:37.233 --> 20:40.033 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% ATTACHED BY WHAT WINDOW WASHERS 20:40.100 --> 20:40.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:10% USE. 20:40.266 --> 20:41.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THAT WAS THE SOLE AMOUNT OF THE 20:41.866 --> 20:43.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND FIRING A 20:43.166 --> 20:45.466 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% GUN AND HIT WITH THE SHELLS IN 20:45.533 --> 20:47.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THE FACE AS THEY ARE COMING BACK 20:47.733 --> 20:50.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% AND THE PLANES PITCHING IN THE 20:50.866 --> 20:51.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% YAWNING, AND THINKING ABOUT 20:51.900 --> 20:57.366 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SOMEONE THAT SURVIVED 50 COMBAT 20:57.433 --> 20:57.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% MISSIONS. 20:57.700 --> 20:59.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% 50 MISSIONS. 20:59.333 --> 21:01.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% MENT HE GOT WOUNDED AND PLANES 21:01.566 --> 21:03.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% WERE DESTROYED. 21:03.700 --> 21:06.133 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% IT WAS ASTONISHING THAT HE WENT 21:06.200 --> 21:07.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% THERE THROUGH THAT AND SURVIVED 21:07.866 --> 21:08.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% THAT. 21:08.466 --> 21:10.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SHOW, 21:10.800 --> 21:13.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% VERY FEW GOVERNORS HAD THAT 21:13.200 --> 21:15.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% FRONT LINE EXPERIENCE IN COMBAT, 21:15.833 --> 21:16.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% SWANSON AND KELLY. 21:16.600 --> 21:21.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> I ASKED HIM, WHEN YOU CAME 21:21.300 --> 21:24.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% BACK WHAT DID YOU LEARN? 21:24.866 --> 21:26.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% HE SAID HOW PRECIOUS LIFE WAS 21:26.700 --> 21:28.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% AND MOVED TOWARD THE PUBLIC 21:28.666 --> 21:28.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% SERVICE. 21:28.900 --> 21:31.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THIS SORT OF SEALED THE DEAL. 21:31.066 --> 21:34.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> YOU KNOW, REMEMBER HE WAS A 21:34.066 --> 21:35.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THIRD GENERATION POLITICIAN. 21:35.400 --> 21:38.300 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% HIS FAMILY HAD BEEN IN THIS FOR 21:38.366 --> 21:39.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% QUITE SOME TIME. 21:39.600 --> 21:42.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% HE WAS A TRUE STATESMAN AND 21:42.533 --> 21:44.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% PICTURE OF CIVILITY AND LIKED 21:44.066 --> 21:46.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% PEOPLE AND LIKEABLE AND HE HAD A 21:46.833 --> 21:49.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% DOWN TO EARTH TYPE OF PERSONALTY 21:49.933 --> 21:53.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% AND EASY TO TALK TO AND GET 21:53.433 --> 21:56.566 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% ALONG AND LIKED PEOPLE OF ALL 21:56.633 --> 21:59.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% BACKGROUNDS AND HE DIDN'T LIKE 22:00.033 --> 22:07.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% THE FAR RIGHT OR THE FAR LEFT. 22:07.733 --> 22:10.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% HE HAD THE ODD COUPLE 22:10.500 --> 22:13.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% RELATIONSHIP WITH COLEMAN YOUNG. 22:14.033 --> 22:16.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% HE WAS BUILT AS WAS TOLD, IT WAS 22:16.866 --> 22:17.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:37.5% BUILT ON TRUST. 22:17.733 --> 22:20.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% THERE WAS A HAND SHAKE. 22:20.133 --> 22:22.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% THEY KNEW THAT WAS A DEAL AND 22:22.766 --> 22:24.733 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THEY DEPARTMENT GO BACK TO THE 22:24.800 --> 22:28.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% CORNERS AND DO SOMETHING ELSE TO 22:29.000 --> 22:30.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% PLEAD TO THEIR OWN. 22:30.200 --> 22:31.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% HE WAS A CLASS PERSON. 22:31.233 --> 22:33.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% HE HAD CHALLENGES. 22:33.300 --> 22:36.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% BUT HE WORKED HARD AND THE MOST 22:36.700 --> 22:39.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% IMPORTANT THING HE SPOKE HIS 22:39.200 --> 22:40.233 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% CONSCIOUS, WHICH IS REFLECTIVE 22:40.300 --> 22:42.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% IN THE COMMENTS IN YOUR PIECE. 22:42.733 --> 22:44.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% SOMETIMES HE WOULD SIDE WITH THE 22:44.433 --> 22:47.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% DEMOCRATS AND SOMETIMES WITH THE 22:47.933 --> 22:49.466 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% REPUBLICANS, BUT IT WAS ABOUT 22:49.533 --> 22:51.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% WHAT WAS MORALLY RIGHT TO HIM 22:52.033 --> 22:54.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% AND WHEN HE WAS DISAPOINTEDED IN 22:54.900 --> 22:57.033 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% JOHN McCAIN BUT LIKED AS A 22:57.100 --> 22:58.833 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% PERSON BUT WENT TOO FAR IN THE 22:58.900 --> 23:01.400 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT, THEN HE 23:01.466 --> 23:04.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% ENDED UP VOTING FOR BARACK 23:04.733 --> 23:04.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:15% OBAMA. 23:04.933 --> 23:07.266 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% HE ADMITTED HE SAID HE WAS PROUD 23:07.333 --> 23:07.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:32.5% OF THAT VOTE. 23:07.966 --> 23:09.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF PERSON HE 23:09.633 --> 23:09.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:10% WAS. 23:09.966 --> 23:11.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> I THINK IT IS INTERESTING 23:11.933 --> 23:14.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% THAT HE SAID POLITICS BE DAMMED. 23:14.666 --> 23:17.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> YES, THE MOST POIGNANT LINE 23:17.133 --> 23:18.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% IN THERE. 23:18.466 --> 23:20.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% >> HE ENACTED THAT ALL OF THE 23:20.700 --> 23:21.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% TIME. 23:21.133 --> 23:25.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% I RECALL HE HAD A FUNDRAISER IN 23:25.133 --> 23:30.333 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% HIS HOUSE ON MACKINAC ISLAND FOR 23:30.400 --> 23:33.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% PAN WHO WAS A MODERATE 23:33.800 --> 23:35.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% REPUBLICANING AND RUNNING 23:36.000 --> 23:36.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% AGAINST A REPUBLICAN SENATOR. 23:36.900 --> 23:40.966 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND I WAS DOING A STORY ON THAT 23:41.033 --> 23:43.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% AND WENT TO THIS FUNDRAISER AND 23:43.566 --> 23:46.800 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% HE WAS SO GRACIOUS AND SO NICE 23:46.866 --> 23:50.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% AND HE CONTINUED TO ENDORSE 23:50.800 --> 23:52.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% DEMOCRATS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER. 23:52.166 --> 24:01.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% HE ENDORSED JENNIFER GRANHOLM 24:02.000 --> 24:05.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% AND WHITMER. 24:05.066 --> 24:07.966 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% >> NO, HE DID NOT. 24:08.033 --> 24:10.000 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% >> MANY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 24:10.066 --> 24:12.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% CALLED HIM AN RHINO NOW. 24:12.600 --> 24:14.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:60% HE GOT KICKED OUT OF THE 24:14.800 --> 24:17.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% REPUBLICAN PARTY IN TRAVERSE 24:17.500 --> 24:17.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% COUNTY. 24:17.766 --> 24:21.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% >> HE INSISTED IN ONE OF THE 24:21.566 --> 24:25.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% INTERVIEWS, I ASKED WHY NOT FLIP 24:25.300 --> 24:25.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:20% PARTIES? 24:25.800 --> 24:26.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% HE SAID NO. 24:26.866 --> 24:30.066 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% HE SAID I LOVE MY PARTY AND I 24:30.133 --> 24:33.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% WILL WORK WITHIN MY PARTY TO 24:33.200 --> 24:36.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% MAKE THE PARTY WHAT I THINK IT 24:36.633 --> 24:36.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% SHOULD BE. 24:37.000 --> 24:39.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> HE BELIEVED IN THE BASIC CORE 24:39.833 --> 24:41.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% REPUBLICAN PRINCIPLES, 24:41.300 --> 24:42.133 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:65% INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY, 24:42.200 --> 24:43.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:42.5% THINGS LIKE THAT. 24:43.300 --> 24:45.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% HE BELIEVED STRONGLY IN THOSE 24:45.933 --> 24:46.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% THINGS. 24:46.233 --> 24:47.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% HE WASN'T CRAZY ABOUT THE 24:47.666 --> 24:47.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% UNIONS. 24:47.900 --> 24:49.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU 24:49.433 --> 24:51.566 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PAY AND 24:51.633 --> 24:54.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% BENEFITS FINE, WORK RULES, I 24:55.000 --> 24:56.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:47.5% MANAGE THE COMPANY. 24:56.800 --> 24:58.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:67.5% BUT THE PARTY HAS GONE IN A 24:58.800 --> 24:59.600 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:77.5% DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND SOME OF 24:59.666 --> 25:02.500 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THE ISSUES ARE LESS CONCERNING 25:02.566 --> 25:04.800 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:75% TO THEM THEN THEY WERE TO HIM. 25:04.866 --> 25:07.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% >> GOOD POLICY MAKES GOOD 25:07.500 --> 25:07.700 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:22.5% POLITICS. 25:07.766 --> 25:08.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:27.5% >> EXACTLY. 25:08.600 --> 25:11.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% >> IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE CAMPAIGN 25:11.966 --> 25:14.766 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% HE SAID I'M NOT RUNNING TO GET 25:14.833 --> 25:16.766 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% RE-ELECTED I'M RUNNING FOR THE 25:16.833 --> 25:20.533 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO GOVERN. 25:20.600 --> 25:22.633 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% SERVICE IN PUBLIC OFFICE IS WHAT 25:22.700 --> 25:24.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% MATTERED TO HIM. 25:24.166 --> 25:26.400 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:55% >> HE WAS QUITE A GUY. 25:26.466 --> 25:28.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% I FELL IN LOVE WITH A WOMAN THAT 25:28.933 --> 25:31.166 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM 25:31.233 --> 25:31.366 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% THEM. 25:31.433 --> 25:33.933 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:72.5% WE COULD SMELL THE WATER, NOT 25:34.000 --> 25:36.433 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% SEE IT. 25:36.500 --> 25:37.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:12.5% OKAY. 25:37.066 --> 25:41.633 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% ONE SATURDAY I WAS WASHING THE 25:41.700 --> 25:45.533 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% CAR, HE CAME UP TO THE MAILBOX 25:45.600 --> 25:48.733 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:80% AND HE THOUGHT I LEFT LANSING TO 25:48.800 --> 25:51.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% GET AWAY FROM THIS CLOWN. 25:51.566 --> 25:53.866 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:57.5% I SAID, WE ARE ENGAGED. 25:53.933 --> 25:56.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% HE SAID GET HER OUT HERE. 25:56.166 --> 25:56.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% [LAUGHTER] 25:56.833 --> 25:58.533 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> HONEY, THE GOVERNOR WANT TO 25:58.600 --> 26:01.100 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:30% TALK TO YOU. 26:01.166 --> 26:05.533 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% >> HE TALKED ON THE LAWN ABOUT 26:05.600 --> 26:07.000 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:40% HOW GREAT I WAS. 26:07.066 --> 26:08.300 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:42.5% THAT IS NOT TRUE. 26:08.366 --> 26:09.766 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:45% IT IS A GUY THING. 26:09.833 --> 26:10.666 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:62.5% IT WAS A PRECIOUS MOMENT. 26:10.733 --> 26:11.900 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:52.5% HE WAS ONE OF A KIND. 26:11.966 --> 26:13.600 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 26:13.666 --> 26:15.233 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:42.5% WE APPRECIATE IT. 26:15.300 --> 26:17.066 align:start position:12.5% line:68.66% size:75% THIS IS A CLASS ACT HERE TODAY 26:17.133 --> 26:17.833 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:25% AS HE WAS. 26:17.900 --> 26:19.200 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:70% SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON OFF THE 26:19.266 --> 26:19.500 align:start position:10% line:68.66% size:17.5% RECORD.