1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:01,300 WELCOME BACK OUR GUEST THIS WEEK 2 00:00:01,300 --> 00:00:04,266 IS REPRESENTATIVE HARVEY SANTANA 3 00:00:04,266 --> 00:00:05,466 A MAVERICK DEMOCRAT FROM 4 00:00:05,466 --> 00:00:07,700 DETROIT, OUR LEAD STORY NEW 5 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:08,400 POLLING DATA IN THE RACE FOR 6 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,666 GOVERNOR BAD NEWS FOR MR. TRUMP 7 00:00:10,666 --> 00:00:13,300 ON THE OTR PANEL JONATHAN 8 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:15,800 OOSTING, KATHY GRAY AND JOHN 9 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,566 LINDSTROM SIT IN WITH US AS WE 10 00:00:17,566 --> 00:00:19,633 GET THE INSIDE OUT, OFF THE 11 00:00:19,633 --> 00:00:21,500 RECORD. 12 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:22,200 "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 13 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,866 MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 14 00:00:22,866 --> 00:00:23,533 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 15 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:24,200 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 16 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,900 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 17 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:25,600 SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 18 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,300 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 19 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:27,000 OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 20 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,400 GRAND RAPIDS. 21 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,966 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 22 00:00:27,966 --> 00:00:28,566 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 23 00:00:28,566 --> 00:00:29,233 CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 24 00:00:29,233 --> 00:00:29,933 THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 25 00:00:29,933 --> 00:00:30,200 1941. 26 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,900 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 27 00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:31,533 FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 28 00:00:31,533 --> 00:00:32,000 MICHIGAN SEASONS. 29 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,700 HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 30 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:33,033 IT TAKES. 31 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:33,500 HAGER FOX.COM." 32 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:34,100 "AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 33 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:34,666 AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL 34 00:00:34,666 --> 00:00:35,033 RESOURCES. 35 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:35,700 TACKLING THE WORLD'S BIGGEST 36 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:36,400 PROBLEMS RELATED TO FOOD, ENERGY 37 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:36,933 AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 38 00:00:36,933 --> 00:00:37,633 WITH 20 MAJORS, 17 MINORS AND 12 39 00:00:37,633 --> 00:00:38,233 CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS, THE 40 00:00:38,233 --> 00:00:38,866 COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND 41 00:00:38,866 --> 00:00:39,533 NATURAL RESOURCES PROVIDES 42 00:00:39,533 --> 00:00:40,166 STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO 43 00:00:40,166 --> 00:01:10,866 EXCEL." 44 00:01:10,866 --> 00:01:13,266 AND NOW THIS EDITION OF OFF THE 45 00:01:13,266 --> 00:01:14,833 RECORD WITH TIM SKUBICK. 46 00:01:14,833 --> 00:01:16,266 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WELCOME 47 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:19,366 BACK TO OUR POST ELECTION 48 00:01:19,366 --> 00:01:20,266 EDITION OF OFF THE REPORT AND 49 00:01:20,266 --> 00:01:23,766 POLLING DATA FOR PRESIDENT AND 50 00:01:23,766 --> 00:01:25,300 NOBODY LIKES EITHER OF THESE 51 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:25,800 GUYS. 52 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,033 PLENTY OF VOTERS THIS YEAR WHO 53 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:28,400 ARE NOT FOND OF EITHER CANDIDATE 54 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,633 BUT NORMALLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS 55 00:01:29,633 --> 00:01:31,266 THE CANDIDATE WILL MAKE SOME 56 00:01:31,266 --> 00:01:32,666 SORT OF RUN AT TRYING TO CONVERT 57 00:01:32,666 --> 00:01:34,900 SOME OF THE OPPOSITION BUT WHEN 58 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:36,400 IT COMES TO THESE TWO IT MIGHT 59 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,033 BE A WASTE OF TIME, VOTERS WERE 60 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:41,033 ASKED EVEN IF THEY OPPOSED 61 00:01:41,033 --> 00:01:42,833 EITHER HILLARY CLINTON OR DONALD 62 00:01:42,833 --> 00:01:43,566 TRUMP IS THERE ANY CHANCE THEY 63 00:01:43,566 --> 00:01:45,233 WOULD EVENTUALLY SUPPORT THEM, 64 00:01:45,233 --> 00:01:48,100 42% SAID NO WAY FOR HER, 48% 65 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:49,833 SAID NO WAY FOR HIM. 66 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:55,933 SO IS JOHN TRUSCOT A REPUBLICAN 67 00:01:55,933 --> 00:01:56,433 SURPRISED BY THIS. 68 00:01:56,433 --> 00:01:58,333 >> THESE ARE THE TO MOST 69 00:01:58,333 --> 00:01:59,033 UNPOPULAR PRESIDENTIAL 70 00:01:59,033 --> 00:02:00,033 CANDIDATES PROBABLY IN OUR 71 00:02:00,033 --> 00:02:01,233 LIFETIME TO RUN FOR OFFICE SO I 72 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:02,666 THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO 73 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:04,266 THE POLLS, THEY WILL HOLD THEIR 74 00:02:04,266 --> 00:02:05,733 NOSE AND VOTE FOR ONE OR THE 75 00:02:05,733 --> 00:02:08,600 OTHER OR MAYBE NOT VOTE AT ALL. 76 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,266 >> REPORTER: POLLSTERS 77 00:02:10,266 --> 00:02:11,766 GREENBURG ASKED VOTERS TO LIST 78 00:02:11,766 --> 00:02:14,266 CONCERNS ABOUT MS. CLINTON 43 79 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:16,266 SAID SHE WAS QUOTE PART OF THE 80 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:17,866 POLITICAL ELITE WHO HAVE GOTTEN 81 00:02:17,866 --> 00:02:19,766 RICH SELLING ACCESS. 82 00:02:19,766 --> 00:02:22,633 30% SAID MR. TRUMP PUT HIS 83 00:02:22,633 --> 00:02:23,666 BUSINESSES IN BANKRUPTCY FOUR 84 00:02:23,666 --> 00:02:25,766 TIMES, LAID OFF WORKERS AND 85 00:02:25,766 --> 00:02:27,233 DEFRAUDED SMALL CONTRACTORS SO 86 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:29,733 IS THERE ANY WAY TO REHABILITATE 87 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:31,666 THOSE POOR IMAGES. 88 00:02:31,666 --> 00:02:32,300 >> NOT SIGNIFICANTLY I MEAN 89 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:33,300 PEOPLE ARE PRETTY SET IN KNOWING 90 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:34,433 WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE 91 00:02:34,433 --> 00:02:34,800 ABLE. 92 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,100 SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT 93 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:36,700 TO DO. 94 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:40,266 IT IS JUST WHO DO WE LIKE LEAST. 95 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:41,033 >> REPORTER: THE DEMOCRAT 96 00:02:41,033 --> 00:02:41,700 SUPPORTING HILLARY CLINTON IS 97 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:43,866 NOT BOTHERED BY THE FACT SO MANY 98 00:02:43,866 --> 00:02:45,300 OPPONENTS WON'T EVER COME OVER 99 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:46,300 TO HER SIDE. 100 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:47,700 IF YOU CAN'T WIN OVER YOUR 101 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:58,733 STRONGEST OPPONENTS IT TAKES 102 00:02:58,733 --> 00:03:00,400 ELECTORAL. 103 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,733 >> SOME WILL VOTE DEMOCRAT AND 104 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:02,666 SOME REPUBLICAN. 105 00:03:02,666 --> 00:03:05,300 >> DIV HAVE NUMBERS WHAT DO THEY 106 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:05,933 SAY. 107 00:03:05,933 --> 00:03:06,766 >> HILLARY CLINTON COMING OUT OF 108 00:03:06,766 --> 00:03:08,166 THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION WITH A 109 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:10,566 9 POINT LEAD IN MICHIGAN OVER 110 00:03:10,566 --> 00:03:13,300 DONALD TRUMP, THAT WAS 41-32. 111 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:14,633 SOME OF THE MORE TELLING 112 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:16,600 FINDINGS 61% OF VOTERS SAID THEY 113 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,066 DID NOT THINK DONALD TRUMP WAS 114 00:03:18,066 --> 00:03:19,966 FIT TO BE PRESIDENT WHICH IS A 115 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:21,600 MUCH HIGHER NUMBER THAN HILLARY 116 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,300 CLINTON. 117 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:24,200 ON THE TRUST ISSUE THAT HAS 118 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,633 SEEMED TO PLAGUE CLINTON 119 00:03:25,633 --> 00:03:27,533 ACTUALLY VOTERS SAID THEY TRUST 120 00:03:27,533 --> 00:03:29,200 THEY DON'T TRUST REALLY EITHER 121 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,700 OF THEM BUT THOSE NUMBERS WERE 122 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:32,400 ABOUT THE SAME AND ON FOREIGN 123 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,366 POLICY VOTERS BY A WIDE MARGIN 124 00:03:38,366 --> 00:03:39,600 THOUGHT HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE 125 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,433 BETTER. 126 00:03:41,433 --> 00:03:42,500 >> WHAT ABOUT YOU? 127 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:43,866 >> WE STILL HAVE THREE MONTHS TO 128 00:03:43,866 --> 00:03:47,133 GO BUT IT DEPENDS ON YOU KNOW 129 00:03:47,133 --> 00:03:48,333 DONALD TRUMP HAD A HORRIBLE 130 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:51,333 WEEK. 131 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,400 HE WENT AFTER A GOLD STAR FAMILY 132 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,000 WHO LOST THEIR SON IN IRAQ, HE 133 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,200 HAD SOME QUESTIONABLE REMARKS 134 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,833 ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT, TALKING 135 00:03:59,833 --> 00:04:03,500 ABOUT RUSSIA AND CRIMEA AND 136 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:05,133 UKRAINE, IT WAS JUST A REALLY, 137 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:06,366 REALLY BAD WEEK. 138 00:04:06,366 --> 00:04:07,833 >> DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE BABY. 139 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:09,633 >> GET THE BABY OUT OF THE 140 00:04:09,633 --> 00:04:10,666 AUDIENCE. 141 00:04:10,666 --> 00:04:12,166 BUT HE IS COMING HERE ON MONDAY. 142 00:04:12,166 --> 00:04:13,866 WE WILL SEE HIM IN DETROIT AT 143 00:04:13,866 --> 00:04:16,500 THE DETROIT ECONOMIC CLUB AND 144 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,900 TRYING TO REHABILITATE HIMSELF 145 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:19,600 AND WE WILL SEE IF HE HAS THE 146 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,100 ABILITY AND SELF-CONTROL TO BE 147 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:22,200 ABLE TO DO THAT. 148 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,866 >> I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE WILL 149 00:04:22,866 --> 00:04:24,033 START TRYING OR DOING THAT. 150 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:25,466 I MEAN THE POST CONVENTION 151 00:04:25,466 --> 00:04:27,500 PERIOD WHERE YOU USUALLY SORT OF 152 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:28,900 BASK IN THE GLOW A LITTLE WHILE 153 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:30,366 HE WAS MAKING CONTROVERSIAL 154 00:04:30,366 --> 00:04:32,100 HEADLINES RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE 155 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:33,033 INCLUDING THE COMMENT YOU 156 00:04:33,033 --> 00:04:35,533 MENTIONED ABOUT RUSSIA SAYING HE 157 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:39,233 WISHED THEY WOULD HACK HILLARY 158 00:04:39,233 --> 00:04:41,500 CLINTON E-MAILS AND ESSENTIALLY 159 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,266 INVITING A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO A 160 00:04:43,266 --> 00:04:45,233 METAL AND U.S. POLITICS AND OF 161 00:04:45,233 --> 00:04:46,400 COURSE HE SAID HE WAS JOKING BUT 162 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,866 RIGHT THERE HE IS GRABBING 163 00:04:47,866 --> 00:04:49,233 HEADLINES THAT CONTINUED THIS 164 00:04:49,233 --> 00:04:51,500 WEEK WITH THE KHAN FAMILY AND 165 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:52,866 ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER. 166 00:04:52,866 --> 00:04:54,500 WHEN YOU EXPECT HIM TO START 167 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:55,566 EASING INTO THAT GENERAL 168 00:04:55,566 --> 00:04:57,400 ELECTION AND MAYBE TRYING TO SHY 169 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,200 AWAY SOME CONTROVERSY HE SIMPLY 170 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,733 HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO. 171 00:05:00,733 --> 00:05:01,933 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS, 172 00:05:01,933 --> 00:05:02,566 JOHN? 173 00:05:02,566 --> 00:05:04,633 >> SINCE YOU AND I ARE OLD 174 00:05:04,633 --> 00:05:06,233 ENOUGH THIS IS THE MOST BIZARRE 175 00:05:06,233 --> 00:05:08,033 ELECTION. 176 00:05:08,033 --> 00:05:09,400 >> SPEAK FOR YOURSELF PLEASE. 177 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,566 >> AND THE POINT THAT WAS MADE 178 00:05:10,566 --> 00:05:12,133 ABOUT HOW 40% WOULD NOT CHANGE 179 00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:14,166 THEIR MIND ABOUT NOT VOTING FOR 180 00:05:14,166 --> 00:05:16,733 HILLARY AND 48 THAT SORT OF 181 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:18,266 REFLECTS THE CURRENT STATE OF 182 00:05:18,266 --> 00:05:19,366 POLITICS, THE MIDDLE, 183 00:05:19,366 --> 00:05:20,600 INDEPENDENCE HAVE BECOME SMALLER 184 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,633 AND SMALLER AND NOW MUCH OF THE 185 00:05:22,633 --> 00:05:25,966 EFFORT POLITICIANS HAVE TO HAVE 186 00:05:25,966 --> 00:05:26,666 IS MAKE SURE THEY GET THE BASE 187 00:05:26,666 --> 00:05:28,266 TO SUPPORT THE CANDIDATE. 188 00:05:28,266 --> 00:05:29,700 THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM ON TRUMP'S 189 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:29,966 SIDE. 190 00:05:29,966 --> 00:05:31,633 IT'S A PROBLEM SOMEWHAT ON 191 00:05:31,633 --> 00:05:33,033 CLINTON'S SIDE AS WELL 192 00:05:33,033 --> 00:05:34,366 ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT 193 00:05:34,366 --> 00:05:36,033 BACK BERNIE SANDERS WHETHER OR 194 00:05:36,033 --> 00:05:37,266 NOT THEY WILL COME OVER BUT IT'S 195 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:39,533 A BIGGER PROBLEM FOR TRUMP AND 196 00:05:39,533 --> 00:05:41,000 GIVEN AS EVERYONE HAS POINTED 197 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,800 OUT THAT HE HAS REDEFINED THE 198 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,833 TERM LOOSE CANON I THINK WHAT 199 00:05:46,833 --> 00:05:47,866 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE 200 00:05:47,866 --> 00:05:49,566 IS THE DEMOCRATS KEEP GOING 201 00:05:49,566 --> 00:05:51,500 AFTER HIM AND IN SOME REGRET 202 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:54,300 SOME ATTEMPTS EITHER TRY TO MOVE 203 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:55,600 REPUBLICANS OVER TO AT LEAST 204 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,233 VOTE FOR CLINTON OR NOT VOTE AT 205 00:05:57,233 --> 00:06:00,066 ALL OR VOTE FOR THE LIBERTARIAN 206 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:01,366 CANDIDATE GARY JOHNSON. 207 00:06:01,366 --> 00:06:02,866 >> NOT VOTING AT ALL IS WHAT 208 00:06:02,866 --> 00:06:07,266 REALLY COULD AFFECT THE RACES 209 00:06:07,266 --> 00:06:08,400 AND REPUBLICAN VOTERS STAY HOME 210 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,766 ARE NOT VOTING FOR THE STATE 211 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:11,366 HOUSE CANDIDATES OR ANY LOWER 212 00:06:11,366 --> 00:06:12,466 SEATS AND DEMOCRATS SEE THAT AS 213 00:06:12,466 --> 00:06:13,600 A REAL OPPORTUNITY. 214 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,266 >> I THINK WHAT WILL BE MORE 215 00:06:15,266 --> 00:06:16,300 REALISTIC IS THEY WOULD NOT VOTE 216 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:17,766 FOR PRESIDENT, THEY WOULD VOTE 217 00:06:17,766 --> 00:06:19,400 REPUBLICAN EVERYWHERE ELSE BUT 218 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,766 REPUBLICANS AFTER ALL HAVE 219 00:06:20,766 --> 00:06:28,333 ALMOST A RELIGIOUS CONVICTION TO 220 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:29,833 SHOW UP AND VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR 221 00:06:29,833 --> 00:06:31,233 EVERY THING AND LEAVE THE 222 00:06:31,233 --> 00:06:31,766 PRESIDENT BLANK. 223 00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:33,100 >> I SPOKE TO THE POLLSTER THIS 224 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,533 WEEK AND HE SAID FOR THE FIRST 225 00:06:34,533 --> 00:06:35,866 TIME IF YOU ARE A HOUSE 226 00:06:35,866 --> 00:06:37,833 CANDIDATE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND 227 00:06:37,833 --> 00:06:40,300 NOT MACOMB AND OTHER DISTRICTS 228 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:41,866 YOU QUOTE SHOULD BE CONCERNED OF 229 00:06:41,866 --> 00:06:43,366 THE TOP OF THE TICKET. 230 00:06:43,366 --> 00:06:44,633 >> THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE 231 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:46,233 DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO TIE EVERY 232 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:47,600 SINGLE CANDIDATE TO DONALD TRUMP 233 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,766 AND SO THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING 234 00:06:49,766 --> 00:06:52,233 TO HAVE TO DANCE THEIR WAY 235 00:06:52,233 --> 00:06:52,966 AROUND THAT, WHETHER THEY ARE 236 00:06:52,966 --> 00:06:53,900 GOING TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT 237 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:56,133 HIM OR IF THEY ARE GOING TO SAY 238 00:06:56,133 --> 00:06:58,266 HEY YOU KNOW HE IS NOT MY GUY 239 00:06:58,266 --> 00:07:01,733 BUT WOULD THE REPUBLICAN 240 00:07:01,733 --> 00:07:02,433 CANDIDATES COME OUT AND SAY WELL 241 00:07:02,433 --> 00:07:03,166 I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR HILLARY 242 00:07:03,166 --> 00:07:04,533 CLINTON OR NOT VOTE AT ALL SO I 243 00:07:04,533 --> 00:07:06,100 THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL 244 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:08,600 DELICATE BALANCE FOR REPUBLICAN 245 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:08,966 CANDIDATES. 246 00:07:08,966 --> 00:07:10,900 >> THE HOUSE RACES IN THE 247 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:12,133 PRIMARIES WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM 248 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:18,000 THAT THIS WEEK AND VIS-A-VIS, 249 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,366 ANYTHING. 250 00:07:18,366 --> 00:07:19,733 >> LOST A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES 251 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:21,533 THEY FAVORED ESPECIALLY UP NORTH 252 00:07:21,533 --> 00:07:23,733 WHICH IN THEORY COULD HURT THEIR 253 00:07:23,733 --> 00:07:24,633 CHANCES OF WINNING CONTROL OF 254 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:26,333 THE HOUSE AND THAT WAS A BIG 255 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:27,566 TASK FOR THEM TO WIN CONTROL OF 256 00:07:27,566 --> 00:07:29,533 THE HOUSE AND HAD TO WIN NINE 257 00:07:29,533 --> 00:07:30,100 SEATS. 258 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:30,633 >> RIGHT. 259 00:07:30,633 --> 00:07:32,100 >> UNDER MOST CIRCUMSTANCES THAT 260 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,200 IS A REALLY HEAVY LIFT. 261 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,700 SO IN THEORY LOSING THOSE TWO 262 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:38,766 CANDIDATES COULD HURT BUT AS WAS 263 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:41,100 POINTED OUT IF WE SEE A BIG TURN 264 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:43,266 OFF BY DONALD TRUMP AND WE SEE 265 00:07:43,266 --> 00:07:46,200 PEOPLE EITHER NOT VOTE OR DECIDE 266 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,366 THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE 267 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:49,633 DEMOCRATIC THAT COULD HAVE AN 268 00:07:49,633 --> 00:07:49,933 AFFECT. 269 00:07:49,933 --> 00:07:51,433 THE FACT WE WILL LIKELY SEE 270 00:07:51,433 --> 00:07:53,000 STRAIGHT TICKET VOTING HAPPEN IN 271 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,866 THIS NOVEMBER COULD ALSO BE A 272 00:07:56,866 --> 00:07:59,066 POSITIVE FOR THE DEMOCRATS. 273 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:03,533 BUT IN TERMS OF BIG BIG 274 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:05,133 SURPRISES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT 275 00:08:05,133 --> 00:08:10,166 WIN THERE WERE NOT ANY ENORMOUS 276 00:08:10,166 --> 00:08:10,500 SURPRISES. 277 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:11,933 >> ONE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE 278 00:08:11,933 --> 00:08:13,566 THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SORT OF 279 00:08:13,566 --> 00:08:16,233 ENCOURAGED I GUESS BY JEFF NOBLE 280 00:08:16,233 --> 00:08:18,366 AND PLYMOUTH WINNING THE SEAT 281 00:08:18,366 --> 00:08:21,333 HELD BY KURT HIZI AND TEA PARTY 282 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:24,266 BACKED BY PATRICK COLBECK AND 283 00:08:24,266 --> 00:08:25,566 DEMOCRATS THINK HE IS A LITTLE 284 00:08:25,566 --> 00:08:27,033 TOO CONSERVATIVE FOR THAT 285 00:08:27,033 --> 00:08:29,566 DISTRICT WHICH IS A GOP LEANING 286 00:08:29,566 --> 00:08:30,533 DISTRICT AND DEMOCRATS THINK 287 00:08:30,533 --> 00:08:31,633 THEY HAVE A REAL SHOT. 288 00:08:31,633 --> 00:08:32,633 >> AND WAS ONE OF THOSE 289 00:08:32,633 --> 00:08:34,300 REPUBLICANS WHO WAS WILLING TO 290 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:35,933 WORK WITH DEMOCRATS A TOUCH MORE 291 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:37,700 MODERATE AS MODERATE AS 292 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:41,800 REPUBLICANS GET THESE DAYS. 293 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,466 >> SUB TEXT OF THE RACE WAS 294 00:08:44,466 --> 00:08:47,566 LEONARD OR HULAND FOR SPEAKING 295 00:08:47,566 --> 00:08:49,600 ASSUMING REPUBLICANS REMAIN 296 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,233 CONTROL DO WE HAVE A WINNER 297 00:08:50,233 --> 00:08:50,533 THERE. 298 00:08:50,533 --> 00:08:52,700 >> IT SEEMS LIKE TOM LEONARD MAY 299 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:56,300 HAVE GOTTEN A LEG UP ON THAT AND 300 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:57,400 WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN 301 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,300 NOVEMBER. 302 00:08:58,300 --> 00:08:59,166 >> HIS PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING THE 303 00:08:59,166 --> 00:09:01,566 STORY THEY THINK THEY ARE AT 31, 304 00:09:01,566 --> 00:09:04,733 31 VOTES AND THEY DON'T THINK 305 00:09:04,733 --> 00:09:07,633 VERHULEN IS NOT CLOSE TO THAT 306 00:09:07,633 --> 00:09:10,633 WHAT ARE YOU PICKING UP ON THAT? 307 00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:12,133 >> NUMBERS ASSUME THE PRIMARY 308 00:09:12,133 --> 00:09:13,500 WINNERS WILL WIN THE GENERAL 309 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,166 ELECTION AS WELL AND THE 310 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:16,800 DISTRICTS COULD BE AN OPEN 311 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,166 QUESTION SO I THINK IT'S TOO 312 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:19,166 SOON TO SAY. 313 00:09:19,166 --> 00:09:20,200 >> JUST BACK FROM THE CONVENTION 314 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,600 FIRST OF ALL DID YOU HAVE FUN? 315 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,933 >> FUN IS NOT A WORD I WOULD 316 00:09:23,933 --> 00:09:24,333 USE. 317 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:25,233 >> FILL IN THE BLANKS. 318 00:09:25,233 --> 00:09:27,566 >> IT WAS GREAT BEING AT BOTH OF 319 00:09:27,566 --> 00:09:28,200 THEM. 320 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,633 IT WAS A REALLY, IT WAS A REALLY 321 00:09:30,633 --> 00:09:34,666 FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE AT BOTH BUT 322 00:09:34,666 --> 00:09:36,700 IT'S A LOT OF WORK TOO, SO FUN. 323 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:38,433 >> IT'S A FORCED MARCH. 324 00:09:38,433 --> 00:09:38,900 >> IT IS. 325 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,433 >> WHAT DID YOU LEARN THERE THAT 326 00:09:40,433 --> 00:09:42,633 YOU DIDN'T KNOW GOING IN? 327 00:09:42,633 --> 00:09:45,333 >> I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT BERNIE 328 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:46,766 SANDERS SUPPORTERS WERE AS DUG 329 00:09:46,766 --> 00:09:49,400 IN AS THEY WERE. 330 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,366 IT WAS A MUCH MORE ALMOST 331 00:09:54,366 --> 00:09:56,233 VOLATILE SITUATION IN 332 00:09:56,233 --> 00:09:57,333 PHILADELPHIA THAN IT WAS IN 333 00:09:57,333 --> 00:09:59,700 CLEVELAND, EVERYONE WAS 334 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:01,900 EXPECTING CLEVELAND TO EXPLODE 335 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:04,300 WITH BLACK LIVES MATTERS AND A 336 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:05,933 LOT OF PROTEST GROUPS COMING IN. 337 00:10:05,933 --> 00:10:08,200 THAT DID NOT MATERIALIZE AS MUCH 338 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,633 AS THERE WERE HUGE PROTESTS IN 339 00:10:10,633 --> 00:10:12,633 RIGHT OUTSIDE THE ARENA IN 340 00:10:12,633 --> 00:10:13,233 PHILADELPHIA. 341 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:15,200 >> IT CONTINUED RIGHT UP INTO 342 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,433 HER SPEECH THAT NIGHT AS THEY 343 00:10:16,433 --> 00:10:19,300 TRIED TO DROWN HER OUT BUT THEY 344 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:26,366 HAD THE FLOOR CUEDED THEM UP. 345 00:10:26,366 --> 00:10:28,500 >> MOST OF THE DRAMA AT THE DEM 346 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:29,533 CONVENTION HAPPENED IN THE FIRST 347 00:10:29,533 --> 00:10:30,700 COUPLE DAYS AND CERTAINLY IT WAS 348 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:32,766 A LARGE COLLECTIVE GROUP OF 349 00:10:32,766 --> 00:10:33,733 BERNIE SANDERS DELEGATES THAT 350 00:10:33,733 --> 00:10:36,366 WERE LEADING THAT PROTEST, THEY 351 00:10:36,366 --> 00:10:37,900 WERE SMALL IN NUMBER COMPARED TO 352 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:40,266 THE OVER ALL BERNIE DELEGATE 353 00:10:40,266 --> 00:10:40,866 POOL THAT WAS THERE. 354 00:10:40,866 --> 00:10:41,933 IN MICHIGAN IT WAS PROBABLY LESS 355 00:10:41,933 --> 00:10:44,966 THAN TEN OF THE BERNIE DELEGATES 356 00:10:44,966 --> 00:10:46,700 WHO WENT TO THE CONVENTION WHO 357 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,100 ARE REALLY DIE HARD AND REALLY 358 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:49,500 SAYING THEY WEREN'T GOING TO 359 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:50,766 VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON NO 360 00:10:50,766 --> 00:10:52,433 MATTER WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SAID, 361 00:10:52,433 --> 00:10:53,400 BERNIE SANDERS CAME AND SPOKE TO 362 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,533 THE MICHIGAN DELEGATION DIRECTLY 363 00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:56,900 URGING THEM TO DO SO AND THEY 364 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:58,633 SAID, YOU KNOW, HILLARY CLINTON 365 00:10:58,633 --> 00:10:59,300 IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE MY 366 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:01,666 MIND, NOT BERNIE SANDERS. 367 00:11:01,666 --> 00:11:03,666 PEOPLE ATTRACTED TO HIM BECAUSE 368 00:11:03,666 --> 00:11:07,600 OF HIS PURE IDEOLOGY THAT IS 369 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,100 CONSISTENCY SO TO ASK THEM TO 370 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:11,800 CHANGE THEIR MINDS SEEM TO 371 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,066 BETRAY THAT CONSISTENCY AT LEAST 372 00:11:14,066 --> 00:11:15,700 THAT IS HOW THEY PUT IT. 373 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:16,766 >> LEAD STORY OUT OF THE 374 00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:18,400 MICHIGAN DELEGATION? 375 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:18,700 >> BOY. 376 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:19,400 >> THERE WAS NONE. 377 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,766 >> THERE REALLY WASN'T. 378 00:11:20,766 --> 00:11:23,333 >> WHICH IS AMAZING, ISN'T IT? 379 00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:25,200 50, 60 POLITICIANS FROM THE 380 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,633 STATE AND THEY CAN'T MAKE NEWS. 381 00:11:26,633 --> 00:11:28,700 >> THE MICHIGAN DELEGATION IN 382 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:31,500 FOUR YEARS AGO IN TAMPA WAS YOU 383 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,066 KNOW THE TOAST OF THE TOWN. 384 00:11:33,066 --> 00:11:33,400 >> RIGHT. 385 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,633 >> FOR THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION 386 00:11:34,633 --> 00:11:36,600 BECAUSE OF MITT ROMNEY AND IT 387 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 WASN'T THAT WAY FOR THE 388 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,233 DELEGATION EITHER IN 389 00:11:41,233 --> 00:11:44,200 PHILADELPHIA OR CLEVELAND. 390 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,633 YOU KNOW THEY WERE GETTING WELL 391 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:47,633 CHRIS CHRISTIE CAME AND SPOKE TO 392 00:11:47,633 --> 00:11:49,300 THE MICHIGAN DELEGATION IN 393 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,500 CLEVELAND, JOHN KASICH BUT 394 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:55,233 OTHERWISE YOU KNOW THE MICHIGAN 395 00:11:55,233 --> 00:11:57,300 DELEGATION WASN'T A HUGE FACTOR. 396 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:59,033 >> EASY TO SAY MAYBE THAT MEANS 397 00:11:59,033 --> 00:12:02,600 MICHIGAN IS NOT A PRIORITY BUT 398 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,200 TIM KAINE AND DONALD TRUMP ARE 399 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,500 COMING TO MICHIGAN IN THE NEXT 400 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:07,933 FEW DAYS AND AT THE DEMOCRATIC 401 00:12:07,933 --> 00:12:09,300 CONVENTION THERE WERE AT LEAST 402 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:11,666 FOUR PEOPLE FIVE IF YOU COUNT 403 00:12:11,666 --> 00:12:16,400 SENATOR SPABENEW WITH A BRIEF 404 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,366 PART ON THE STAGE. 405 00:12:18,366 --> 00:12:22,666 >> ANALYSIS TODD SAID HE THINKS 406 00:12:22,666 --> 00:12:23,600 IT COULD COME DOWN TO TWO STATES 407 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,233 WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN, HELLO 408 00:12:25,233 --> 00:12:26,433 OHIO AND FLORIDA. 409 00:12:26,433 --> 00:12:27,733 ARE YOU BUYING INTO THAT? 410 00:12:27,733 --> 00:12:29,300 ARE WE THAT MUCH IN PLAY? 411 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:30,766 >> IT'S HARD TO SAY. 412 00:12:30,766 --> 00:12:32,000 YOU'VE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF 413 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,600 PEOPLE IN THIS STATE AND ALSO IN 414 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,333 WISCONSIN WHO RAVIDLY HATE 415 00:12:40,333 --> 00:12:41,566 PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HATE HILLARY 416 00:12:41,566 --> 00:12:43,666 CLINTON AND THAT IS ONE THING 417 00:12:43,666 --> 00:12:44,900 THAT I THINK THAT THEY ARE 418 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:46,633 HOPING THAT THEY CAN DRAW THOSE 419 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:46,966 FOLKS IN. 420 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:48,500 SOME OF THEM ARE DEMOCRATS, MOST 421 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,533 ARE REPUBLICANS AND SO OBVIOUSLY 422 00:12:50,533 --> 00:12:52,300 THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WANTS TO 423 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:53,800 PLAYOFF OF THAT. 424 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,533 IT'S HARD TO SAY HOWEVER I MEAN 425 00:12:55,533 --> 00:13:00,400 TRUMP HAS OFFENDED SO MANY 426 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,200 DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE 427 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,233 WHATEVER ADVANTAGE THEY MAY HAVE 428 00:13:04,233 --> 00:13:07,600 FROM THAT MAY BE OFFSET BECAUSE 429 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,200 HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING BUT 430 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,866 OFFENDS SOMEBODY. 431 00:13:08,866 --> 00:13:10,833 >> A COMMENTATOR TODAY SAID THE 432 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:12,033 GROUP HE NEEDS TO GET TO THE 433 00:13:12,033 --> 00:13:13,833 POLLS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T 434 00:13:13,833 --> 00:13:15,166 VOTED, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT 435 00:13:15,166 --> 00:13:16,233 ARE UPSET WITH THE SYSTEM AND 436 00:13:16,233 --> 00:13:18,000 SEE HIM AS SORT OF THIS KNIGHT 437 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,266 IN SHININGLY ARMOR ON THE WHITE 438 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:23,533 HORSE RIDING IN AND IF THEY TURN 439 00:13:23,533 --> 00:13:27,166 THE NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE THEY 440 00:13:27,166 --> 00:13:29,666 WILL WIN AND LET'S BRING IN 441 00:13:29,666 --> 00:13:31,833 MR. SANTANA. 442 00:13:31,833 --> 00:13:34,266 DETROUT REPRESENTATIVE HARVEY 443 00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:36,200 SANTANA IS IN HIS FINAL TERM IN 444 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,200 THE HOUSE BUT HIS SPOUSE WILL 445 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,266 KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY NEXT 446 00:13:40,266 --> 00:13:41,666 NOVEMBER, THE RANKING DEMOCRAT 447 00:13:41,666 --> 00:13:43,633 ON THE HOUSE BUDGET COMMITTEE 448 00:13:43,633 --> 00:13:45,100 AND URBAN PLANNER A STAFFER FOR 449 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:46,733 THE DETROIT CITY COUNCIL AND 450 00:13:46,733 --> 00:13:47,933 SERVED IN THE NAVY BEFORE GOING 451 00:13:47,933 --> 00:13:49,933 INTO POLITICS, HE HOLDS DEGREES 452 00:13:49,933 --> 00:13:52,233 FROM EASTERN MICHIGAN. 453 00:13:52,233 --> 00:13:53,833 HOW IS IT GOING REPRESENTATIVE? 454 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:56,300 >> GOOD BUT WE START YOU ARE AT 455 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:58,266 A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE THERE 456 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:00,433 ARE ONLY FOUR OF YOU. 457 00:14:00,433 --> 00:14:01,800 ONE MORE AND I WOULD BE SCARED. 458 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,200 >> ONE OF KIND OF THOSE SHOWS. 459 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,866 HAVING SET THE STAGE GO FOR IT, 460 00:14:05,866 --> 00:14:06,233 MAN. 461 00:14:06,233 --> 00:14:07,566 >> ALL RIGHT. 462 00:14:07,566 --> 00:14:10,233 WELL YOU PROBABLY ARE WELL-KNOWN 463 00:14:10,233 --> 00:14:11,166 FOR THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A 464 00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:13,366 DEMOCRAT WHOSE PARTY DOESN'T 465 00:14:13,366 --> 00:14:15,100 MUCH LIKE YOU OR THE CAUCUS 466 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,200 DOESN'T MUCH LIKE YOU. 467 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,900 FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, MORE 468 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,600 DEMOCRAT IN THE CAUCUS NEED TO 469 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,800 BE MORE LIKE YOU? 470 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,066 >> FIRST OF ALL I THINK THERE IS 471 00:14:24,066 --> 00:14:25,366 ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO 472 00:14:25,366 --> 00:14:27,566 DON'T, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE MY 473 00:14:27,566 --> 00:14:28,233 STYLE. 474 00:14:28,233 --> 00:14:29,500 THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS LIKE 475 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:30,333 WHAT I'M DOING. 476 00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:31,633 THEY SEE WHAT I'M DOING 477 00:14:31,633 --> 00:14:32,766 ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY COME TO ME 478 00:14:32,766 --> 00:14:34,433 DURING APPROPRIATIONS AND ASK ME 479 00:14:34,433 --> 00:14:36,800 FOR HELP. 480 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,500 >> PUBLICALLY. 481 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:38,766 >> IT WON'T COME PUBLICALLY BUT 482 00:14:38,766 --> 00:14:40,166 THEY WILL SIT IN MY OFFICE 483 00:14:40,166 --> 00:14:42,100 SAYING CAN YOU HELP ME, 484 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,533 ABSOLUTELY WE ARE DEMOCRATS AND 485 00:14:43,533 --> 00:14:44,833 WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE IT 486 00:14:44,833 --> 00:14:46,266 HAPPENS FOR YOU. 487 00:14:46,266 --> 00:14:47,533 AND I SAID IT LAST TIME ON THIS 488 00:14:47,533 --> 00:14:49,600 SHOW AND KINDS OF SCREWED IT UP 489 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,566 BUT I WILL FIX IT KNOW WHAT YOU 490 00:14:51,566 --> 00:14:52,400 WILL SEE IS THERE ARE GOING TO 491 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,966 BE MORE DEMOCRATS LIKE HARVEY 492 00:14:53,966 --> 00:14:55,566 SANTANA THAT ARE GOING TO START 493 00:14:55,566 --> 00:14:56,500 SPRINGING OUT OF THE BUNCH 494 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,266 BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE IS A 495 00:14:58,266 --> 00:15:01,166 GENUINE UNHAPPINESS ABOUT HOW 496 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:02,700 THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND IF YOU 497 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:04,766 SEE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 498 00:15:04,766 --> 00:15:07,633 THE FALL, IF THE NUMBERS GET 499 00:15:07,633 --> 00:15:08,366 TIGHT WHICH I THINK THEY ARE 500 00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:09,666 IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER TO GET 501 00:15:09,666 --> 00:15:11,566 TO 56 SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE 502 00:15:11,566 --> 00:15:16,166 TO PULL UP TO HARVEY SANTANA TO 503 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:18,700 WORK ACROSS THE AILE. 504 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,633 >> YOU AND YOUR WIFE TOOK UP THE 505 00:15:21,633 --> 00:15:22,566 ACCOMPLISHMENT AND YOU WON. 506 00:15:22,566 --> 00:15:24,266 >> THE ESTABLISHMENT TOOK US ON 507 00:15:24,266 --> 00:15:27,300 AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 508 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,700 LEADERSHIP IN THE DEMOCRATIC 509 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:30,566 CAUCUS SUPPORTED ANOTHER 510 00:15:30,566 --> 00:15:31,466 CANDIDATE. 511 00:15:31,466 --> 00:15:34,600 >> WHAT DID MR. GRIMEL SAY? 512 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,200 >> THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS 513 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,533 INSIDE CLOSED DOORS WHERE HE 514 00:15:38,533 --> 00:15:40,633 SAID I WANT THE 9TH HOUSE 515 00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:42,100 DISTRICT BACK WHICH WE TOOK 516 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,733 EXCEPTION TO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T 517 00:15:44,733 --> 00:15:46,200 BELONG TO YOU BUT THE PEOPLE 518 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,433 THEM NUMBER ONE. 519 00:15:48,433 --> 00:15:50,000 >> THE SEAT NEXT WEEK. 520 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,533 >> GOOD. 521 00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:52,600 AND SECOND, YOU KNOW, THE 522 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,500 ORGANIZED LABOR I WAS VERY 523 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:55,500 DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THEY WERE 524 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,066 EXTREMELY DISCRIMINATORY AND 525 00:15:57,066 --> 00:15:58,200 PREJUDICIAL TOWARDS MY WIFE. 526 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,866 THEY WOULD NOT GIVE HER AN 527 00:15:59,866 --> 00:16:01,200 ENDORSEMENT SCREENING AND WOULD 528 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,533 NOT RETURN HER PHONE CALLS. 529 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:04,766 AND SO MOVING FORWARD I THINK 530 00:16:04,766 --> 00:16:07,266 THAT LABOR AND HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 531 00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:08,000 LEADERSHIP IS GOING TO HAVE TO 532 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,166 DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AT EARNING 533 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:11,766 HER TRUST. 534 00:16:11,766 --> 00:16:12,733 >> YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE 535 00:16:12,733 --> 00:16:14,433 DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS RIGHT NOW IN 536 00:16:14,433 --> 00:16:15,400 THE HOUSE. 537 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,766 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM, I'M A 538 00:16:17,766 --> 00:16:19,133 FLOATER YOU KNOW, I'M JUST 539 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:19,400 THERE. 540 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,133 >> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN 541 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:21,633 YOUR WIFE WILL AT LEAST HAVE AN 542 00:16:21,633 --> 00:16:22,566 OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT OR ARE 543 00:16:22,566 --> 00:16:25,266 YOU ENCOURAGING HER? 544 00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:26,900 >> I AM AND I TOLD MY WIFE I 545 00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:28,666 SAYS LOOK YOU CAN'T BE LIKE ME. 546 00:16:28,666 --> 00:16:29,966 ONLY I CAN BE LIKE ME. 547 00:16:29,966 --> 00:16:31,366 YOU GOT TO BE YOU AND YOU HAVE 548 00:16:31,366 --> 00:16:33,000 TO SHOW PEOPLE WHO HARVEY 549 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,033 SANTANA FELL IN LOVE WITH SO 550 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:37,200 MANY YEARS AGO. 551 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,100 SHE IS SO DIFFERENT TO ME. 552 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:39,366 THIS IS A GODLY WOMAN. 553 00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:40,533 THIS IS A MOM. 554 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:40,966 THIS IS A WIFE. 555 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:42,666 THIS IS A COMMUNITY PERSON. 556 00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:44,300 HER STYLE IS SO DIFFERENT THAN 557 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:44,800 MINE. 558 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,366 >> YOU TOLD HER NOT TO RUN. 559 00:16:46,366 --> 00:16:48,066 >> I ENCOURAGED HER NOT TO RUN. 560 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:49,666 I TRIED TO TALK HER OUT OF IT 561 00:16:49,666 --> 00:16:51,500 BUT SHE HAD HER CONVICTION AND 562 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:52,933 SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO 563 00:16:52,933 --> 00:16:55,266 AND I TOLD HER YOU RUN THEY ARE 564 00:16:55,266 --> 00:16:56,666 NOT GOING TO COME AFTER YOU, 565 00:16:56,666 --> 00:16:58,133 THEY ARE GOING TO COME AFTER ME 566 00:16:58,133 --> 00:16:59,666 AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET 567 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:01,500 TO YOU BECAUSE OF ME. 568 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,600 SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET 569 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,433 OUT THERE AND YOU ARE GOING TO 570 00:17:04,433 --> 00:17:06,033 HAVE KNOCK THE DOORS AND TALK TO 571 00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:08,033 THE VOTERS AND I WILL TELL YOU 572 00:17:08,033 --> 00:17:10,700 8,000 DOORS LATER PEOPLE KNEW 573 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:11,500 WHO SHE WAS. 574 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:12,666 THEY SAW HER SPIRIT. 575 00:17:12,666 --> 00:17:14,166 AND THEY KNOW WHAT SHE IS ABOUT. 576 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:16,800 I TELL YOU WE DIDN'T CAMPAIGN ON 577 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,633 THE ISSUE BUT ONE OUT OF THREE 578 00:17:18,633 --> 00:17:23,166 VOTERS THERE WE CAME TO TALK TO 579 00:17:23,166 --> 00:17:25,766 AUTO INSURANCE WAS THE ISSUE FAR 580 00:17:25,766 --> 00:17:27,333 BEYOND ANYTHING THAT I'VE EVER 581 00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:27,700 SEEN. 582 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,233 I MEAN IT WAS INCREDIBLE. 583 00:17:29,233 --> 00:17:34,166 AND SO MIKE DUGGAN WAS A BIG 584 00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:35,066 SUPPORTER OF MY WIFE AND MET 585 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:37,566 LAST NIGHT AND HAD A PHONE 586 00:17:37,566 --> 00:17:38,266 CONVERSATION TODAY, I DON'T KNOW 587 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:38,966 WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT. 588 00:17:38,966 --> 00:17:41,066 BUT YOU KNOW WE ARE DUGGAN 589 00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:41,866 DEMOCRATS. 590 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:43,066 >> IS SHE GOING TO BE SUPPORTING 591 00:17:43,066 --> 00:17:45,266 THE D INSURANCE? 592 00:17:45,266 --> 00:17:47,166 MAYOR DUGGAN IS PUSHING? 593 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:47,366 . 594 00:17:47,366 --> 00:17:49,366 THEY ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS. 595 00:17:49,366 --> 00:17:50,066 I HAVE THE D INSURANCE BILL ON 596 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:52,733 MY DESK AND I CANNOT SUPPORT IT 597 00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:55,466 IN ITS PRESENT FORM. 598 00:17:55,466 --> 00:17:57,600 IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO 599 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,266 RIGHT NOW. 600 00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:00,033 I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF 601 00:18:00,033 --> 00:18:01,533 HIGH-LEVEL CONVERSATIONS THAT 602 00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:03,166 THE MAYOR IS GOING TO HAVE AND 603 00:18:03,166 --> 00:18:05,200 I'M CONFIDENT, I'M VERY, VERY 604 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,100 CONFIDENT THAT MAN'S LEADERSHIP 605 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:08,133 ABILITY TO GET THIS THING DONE 606 00:18:08,133 --> 00:18:10,933 BECAUSE IT HAS TO GET DONE. 607 00:18:10,933 --> 00:18:13,533 PERCENT OF MOTORISTS DON'T HAVE 608 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:14,166 INSURANCE. 609 00:18:14,166 --> 00:18:16,166 >> ACCUSE THEM OF BEING 610 00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:17,133 PREJUDICIAL TO YOUR WIFE. 611 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:18,166 YES. 612 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:19,833 >> DOES THAT SOUND LIKE 613 00:18:19,833 --> 00:18:20,633 ORGANIZED LABOR TO YOU? 614 00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:21,600 . 615 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,633 >> I DON'T KNOW TIM I DON'T 616 00:18:23,633 --> 00:18:24,366 UNDERSTAND LABOR ANY MORE. 617 00:18:24,366 --> 00:18:25,633 THE LABOR ORGANIZATION WE ARE 618 00:18:25,633 --> 00:18:27,633 WITH IS THE OPERATING ENGINEERS 619 00:18:27,633 --> 00:18:30,700 AND LOCAL 25 STAYED OUT OF IT 620 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,466 BUT EVERYBODY ELSE JUST WOULD 621 00:18:32,466 --> 00:18:35,766 NOT GIVE HER A FAIR CHANCE, 622 00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:37,566 WOULDN'T GIVE HER A FAIR CHANCE 623 00:18:37,566 --> 00:18:38,733 AND IN PART IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT 624 00:18:38,733 --> 00:18:40,666 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP 625 00:18:40,666 --> 00:18:41,633 FORCED THEM TO DO. 626 00:18:41,633 --> 00:18:43,266 >> WHY, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE 627 00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:45,300 SO DISLIKED AMONG LEADERSHIP? 628 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:46,766 >> BECAUSE I'M AN END THINKER 629 00:18:46,766 --> 00:18:48,233 AND CAN THINK FOR MYSELF, YOU 630 00:18:48,233 --> 00:18:50,000 WILL NOT PUT ME IN A ROOM AND 631 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,500 BRAIN WASH ME AND TELL ME HERE 632 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,433 IS OUR VALUES STICK TO THEM. 633 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:55,166 >> WHO TRIED TO BRING THAT? 634 00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:57,633 >> YOU GO IN A ROOM, WE HAVE A 635 00:18:57,633 --> 00:18:59,900 BIG CONFERENCE AND OUR BIG 636 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:05,033 CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT ENDS UP 637 00:19:05,033 --> 00:19:07,200 IS THEY BULLY YOU INTO BELIEVING 638 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,433 THESE THINGS AND HOW ABOUT THOSE 639 00:19:08,433 --> 00:19:09,400 GUYS OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY 640 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,766 DON'T BELIEVE THOSE THINGS AND 641 00:19:10,766 --> 00:19:12,333 RUNNING ACROSS THE YARD TRYING 642 00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:13,533 TO GET THINGS FOR THE DISTRICT 643 00:19:13,533 --> 00:19:15,100 AND TELLING ME I HAVE TO BE A 644 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,166 GOOD DEMOCRAT AND SIT DOWN AND 645 00:19:17,166 --> 00:19:20,633 SHUT UP AND DO YOU KNOW WHO 646 00:19:20,633 --> 00:19:21,700 YOU'RE DEALING WITH? 647 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:23,733 >> YOU SAID A SECOND AGO THE 648 00:19:23,733 --> 00:19:25,433 DEMOCRATS TRIED TO FORCE LABOR 649 00:19:25,433 --> 00:19:26,666 TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, WHAT IS IT 650 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,400 YOU THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE 651 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,266 TRYING TO FORCE LABOR TO DO? 652 00:19:30,266 --> 00:19:32,466 >> THEY FORCED LABOR TO SUPPORT 653 00:19:32,466 --> 00:19:35,100 THE OTHER CANDIDATE IN THE RACE. 654 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,366 >> DON'T THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO 655 00:19:36,366 --> 00:19:38,533 THAT? 656 00:19:38,533 --> 00:19:40,166 >> AGAIN AND THEREFORE THEY WILL 657 00:19:40,166 --> 00:19:44,200 HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET HARVEY 658 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,166 SANTANA'S TRUST. 659 00:19:46,166 --> 00:19:47,433 HAS THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP 660 00:19:47,433 --> 00:19:48,366 REACHED OUT TO YOUR WIFE? 661 00:19:48,366 --> 00:19:51,233 . 662 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:54,000 >> YEAH, THE CEREMONIAL THING 663 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,633 WELCOME TO THE CAUCUS AND WE 664 00:19:55,633 --> 00:19:59,566 JOKE HARVEY WON THE FOURTH TERM, 665 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,433 I'M DONE AND YOU WILL COME HOME 666 00:20:01,433 --> 00:20:02,333 AND ASK ME ABOUT AN ISSUE, TALK 667 00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:03,566 TO ME ABOUT IT AND I'M GOING TO 668 00:20:03,566 --> 00:20:05,066 GIVE YOU MY OPINION AND I'M 669 00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:06,700 GOING TO GO CUT THE GRASS. 670 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:08,966 >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE BILL 671 00:20:08,966 --> 00:20:09,266 CLINTON. 672 00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:10,600 >> I'M GOING TO BE HARVEY 673 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,100 SANTANA. 674 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:12,433 >> SOMEBODY THAT WORKED SORT OF 675 00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:14,333 AS AN INDEPENDENT ESSENTIALLY 676 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:16,400 FOR THE LAST COUPLE CYCLES HOW 677 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:22,900 DO YOU COMPARE JACE-BULGER AND 678 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:24,266 KEVIN COTTER? 679 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:25,300 >> I CAN'T AND I'M NOT A 680 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:26,333 REPUBLICAN AND DON'T UNDERSTAND 681 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:27,733 WHAT IS IN THE REPUBLICAN DNA. 682 00:20:27,733 --> 00:20:28,866 >> THEY BOTH COME TO YOU TRYING 683 00:20:28,866 --> 00:20:29,700 TO WORK THIS OUT. 684 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:31,533 >> YEAH, I MEAN, BOTH OF THEIR 685 00:20:31,533 --> 00:20:32,866 STYLES ARE SIMILAR IN THAT THEY 686 00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:35,100 HAVE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO ME 687 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:36,400 AND THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT 688 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,533 IT AND I MEAN I HAD THEM BOTH IN 689 00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:44,033 MY HOME AND DRUNK MY PUERTO RICO 690 00:20:44,033 --> 00:20:45,133 COFFEE AND TOURED THE 691 00:20:45,133 --> 00:20:46,600 NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOWED THEM 692 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,266 EXPERIENCES AND REALITIES OF 693 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:48,800 LIFE IN MY COMMUNITY AND I SHOW 694 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,266 THEM WHERE TWO-YEAR-OLD KID GOT 695 00:20:51,266 --> 00:20:52,333 MURDERED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF 696 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:53,500 AN ASSAULT WEAPON. 697 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:55,666 I SHOWED THEM YOU KNOW THE 698 00:20:55,666 --> 00:20:58,666 HOUSING ISSUES AND I TAKE A LOT 699 00:20:58,666 --> 00:20:59,700 OF PRIDE IN THAT AND I TOOK 700 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:10,466 JACE-BOLGER AND COTTER IN A 701 00:21:10,466 --> 00:21:11,533 ABANDON HOUSE AND SHOWED THEM 702 00:21:11,533 --> 00:21:13,466 WHAT THE SCRAP METAL PROBLEM WAS 703 00:21:13,466 --> 00:21:14,166 ABOUT ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY THE 704 00:21:14,166 --> 00:21:15,766 BILL FLEW OUT OF THE HOUSE. 705 00:21:15,766 --> 00:21:18,033 I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THAT. 706 00:21:18,033 --> 00:21:20,333 >> DO YOU SUPPORT THE SCHOOL 707 00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:22,600 SUPPORTING THE GOVERNOR ON WHAT 708 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,200 WAS PASSED? 709 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,200 >> TIM, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE 710 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,733 GUYS ARE DOING. 711 00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:26,800 >> COULD THE CURRENT SCHOOL 712 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,333 BOARD? 713 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:28,766 >> DO WE HAVE A CURRENT SCHOOL 714 00:21:28,766 --> 00:21:29,066 BOARD? 715 00:21:29,066 --> 00:21:30,266 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SCHOOL 716 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:31,233 BOARD ANYMORE. 717 00:21:31,233 --> 00:21:33,466 THEY ARE LIKE IN LIMBO STATUS. 718 00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:37,366 I KNOW LEMAR LEMONS THE FORMER 719 00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:38,600 PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS 720 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,200 CHALLENGING. 721 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,500 >> IS THAT A WASTE OF TIME? 722 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:43,900 >> IT IS IF THERE IS NO POSITIVE 723 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:46,233 RESULT IN YOUR FAVOR. 724 00:21:46,233 --> 00:21:47,500 I MEAN IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING 725 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,333 THE RESULTS THAT YOU WANTED THEN 726 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,733 WHY DID YOU DO IT IN THE FIRST 727 00:21:50,733 --> 00:21:51,533 PLACE? 728 00:21:51,533 --> 00:21:53,800 AND I CAN UNDERSTAND CEREMONIAL 729 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,566 POLITICS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO 730 00:21:54,566 --> 00:21:56,700 THIS TO PUT UP A FRONT BUT I CAN 731 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:59,066 ALSO UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW TAKING 732 00:21:59,066 --> 00:22:01,166 A STAND ON SOMETHING KNOWING YOU 733 00:22:01,166 --> 00:22:02,966 ARE GOING TO POSSIBLY GET 734 00:22:02,966 --> 00:22:04,166 SOMETHING OUT OF IT. 735 00:22:04,166 --> 00:22:05,100 >> AND THEY HAVE NO CHANCE OF 736 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:06,133 GETTING ANYTHING SO THEREFORE 737 00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:07,400 THEY SHOULD BACK OFF. 738 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,300 >> YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO 739 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:11,900 KEEP PLAYING FLAG. 740 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:13,333 >> BUT IT'S FRUITLESS. 741 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,066 >> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I DON'T 742 00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:16,533 THINK IT'S GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. 743 00:22:16,533 --> 00:22:19,200 >> THE PACKAGE AND WHAT IS YOUR 744 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,166 MINDSET NOW DO THE BEST WITH 745 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:21,400 WHAT YOU CAN? 746 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,200 >> MY MINDSET NOW IS THE SAME 747 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,800 MINDSET I HAD BEFORE, I DIDN'T 748 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,200 SEE THE LARGER CORPORATE AND 749 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,700 PHILANTHROPY SUPPORT THAT IS 750 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,700 REALLY NEEDED TO GET IN THE 751 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:33,500 LIVES OF THESE CHILDREN. 752 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,866 >> ISN'T THERE TIME FOR THAT TO 753 00:22:34,866 --> 00:22:35,500 COME? 754 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,166 >> THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME BUT 755 00:22:37,166 --> 00:22:41,500 DO YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T SEE 756 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,866 PLENTY OF SUPPORT RIGHT NOW. 757 00:22:43,866 --> 00:22:44,566 LISTEN WHEN CERTAIN PEOPLE WANT 758 00:22:44,566 --> 00:22:47,900 THINGS THERE IS AN ENLESS SUPPLY 759 00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:50,233 OF RESOURCE YOU WON'T HOCKEY 760 00:22:50,233 --> 00:22:52,233 STADIUM WE WILL PASS A BILL AND 761 00:22:52,233 --> 00:22:55,766 A TRAIN ON WOODWARD WE WILL PASS 762 00:22:55,766 --> 00:22:57,200 A BILL AND SAVE ART THERE IS 763 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,933 MONEY THAT FALLS FROM THE 764 00:22:58,933 --> 00:23:00,466 HEAVENS WITH CHAMPAIGN, YOU WANT 765 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:01,900 TO HELP KIDS IN DETROIT WHERE IS 766 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:03,300 THAT MONEY? 767 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:04,600 WE GOT TO HAVE CONTROL OF THIS 768 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,066 AND THAT AND WE GOT TO HAVE THE 769 00:23:06,066 --> 00:23:07,800 LEGISLATION THIS WAY AND WANT 770 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,166 THESE PEOPLE AND VOTE AND AGAIN 771 00:23:10,166 --> 00:23:11,400 SHOW ME THE HELP FOR THE 772 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,500 CHILDREN THAT CHANGED THEIR 773 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,266 LIVES AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT 774 00:23:16,266 --> 00:23:18,466 HARVEY SANTANA CAN DO AND I DID 775 00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:19,933 NOT SEE IT IN THE BILL PACKAGE 776 00:23:19,933 --> 00:23:22,200 AND YOU KNOW WE COULD TALK ABOUT 777 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,300 715 MILLION AND THIS THAT AND 778 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:27,233 THE OTHER BUT THE END OF THE DAY 779 00:23:27,233 --> 00:23:28,900 I WAS LOOKING FOR A LARGER 780 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:29,833 INVESTMENT IN THE LIVES OF THE 781 00:23:29,833 --> 00:23:31,300 CHILDREN THAT GOVERNMENT WASN'T 782 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:34,566 GOING TO DO OR CAPABLE OF DOING. 783 00:23:34,566 --> 00:23:35,666 >> BANKRUPTCY FOR THE DISTRICT 784 00:23:35,666 --> 00:23:37,800 IS NOW OFF THE TABLE? 785 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,200 >> APPARENTLY. 786 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,600 I MEAN WE CHECKED THE BOX AND 787 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,600 PAID THE BILL, THE STATE DOESN'T 788 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,900 HAVE TO BE LIABLE FOR IT. 789 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:44,800 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE 790 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,900 CONTINUED STATE OVERSIGHT WHAT 791 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:48,166 EVER THE NEW BOARD DOES? 792 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:49,733 >> I'M NEVER IN SUPPORT OF 793 00:23:49,733 --> 00:23:50,966 CONTINUED STATE OVERSIGHT BUT 794 00:23:50,966 --> 00:23:52,200 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 795 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,066 DEMOCRATS ARE IN CHARGE TO 796 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:54,733 CHANGE THAT. 797 00:23:54,733 --> 00:23:56,000 >> WHAT IS GOING ON WITH GETTING 798 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,933 PEOPLE TO RUN FOR THE SCHOOL 799 00:23:56,933 --> 00:23:58,800 BOARD IN DETROIT IS THERE AN 800 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,300 ACTIVE RECRUITING EFFORTS GOING 801 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:00,600 ON? 802 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,300 . 803 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,333 >> THE PONYS ARE IN THE GATE AND 804 00:24:03,333 --> 00:24:04,400 GETTING READY TO RUN. 805 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,866 I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF 806 00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:08,233 I MEAN PEOPLE SHOWED UP BUT IT'S 807 00:24:08,233 --> 00:24:10,133 ALMOST LIKE BUYING THE LOTTERY, 808 00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:13,366 YOU KNOW, PAY 100 BUT I DON'T 809 00:24:13,366 --> 00:24:14,533 SEE WHAT THE PRIZE IS BECAUSE 810 00:24:14,533 --> 00:24:16,700 IT'S NOT A PAYING JOB. 811 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:17,400 >> WHO IS YOUR CANDIDATE FOR 812 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,133 GOVERNOR? 813 00:24:19,133 --> 00:24:20,733 >> YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU BEFORE 814 00:24:20,733 --> 00:24:22,766 I'M A DUGGAN DEMOCRAT. 815 00:24:22,766 --> 00:24:24,633 >> HE SAID HE IS NOT RUNNING. 816 00:24:24,633 --> 00:24:25,833 >> WAIT A MINUTE WE DON'T KNOW 817 00:24:25,833 --> 00:24:28,900 THAT, YOU KNOW. 818 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:29,633 POLITICIANS SAY A WHOLE LOT OF 819 00:24:29,633 --> 00:24:30,466 THINGS BUT WHEN OPPORTUNITY 820 00:24:30,466 --> 00:24:31,933 PRESENTS ITSELF THINGS TEND TO 821 00:24:31,933 --> 00:24:35,566 CHANGE SO IF MIKE DUGGAN DECIDED 822 00:24:35,566 --> 00:24:37,166 THAT IS WHAT HE WANTED TO BE I'M 823 00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:38,366 GOING TO SUPPORT MY MAYOR 824 00:24:38,366 --> 00:24:40,733 BECAUSE I LIKE HIM. 825 00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:41,366 >> HAVE YOU TOLD HIM TO RUN? 826 00:24:41,366 --> 00:24:42,033 >> I HAVE NOT HAD THAT 827 00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:42,600 CONVERSATION WITH HIM. 828 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,466 THE OTHER PERSON I DO LIKE IS 829 00:24:44,466 --> 00:24:49,133 GRETCHEN WITMER AND REALLY LIKE 830 00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:49,833 GRETCHEN. 831 00:24:49,833 --> 00:24:50,600 >> BECAUSE? 832 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000 >> WE GET ALONG AND NUMBER ONE I 833 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,300 UNDERSTAND HER AND SHE 834 00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:56,233 UNDERSTANDS ME AND IN THIS WORLD 835 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:57,300 OF HILLARY CLINTON I THINK IT'S 836 00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:01,533 TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE LIKE 837 00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:03,666 GRETCHEN WITH A BACKBONE AND 838 00:25:03,666 --> 00:25:05,000 SPINE TO TAKE THINGS ON. 839 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,266 >> COULD YOU VOTE FOR BILL 840 00:25:06,266 --> 00:25:08,533 SCHUTTE? 841 00:25:08,533 --> 00:25:10,733 >> THROW THIS AT YOU MAN. 842 00:25:10,733 --> 00:25:12,200 >> THAT HAPPY NOTE THANK YOU 843 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,500 REPRESENTATIVE GOOD TO SEE YOU 844 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:14,133 AGAIN. 845 00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:14,500 >> PLEASURE. 846 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,600 >> AND TAKES TO YOU GUYS AND SEE 847 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,966 YOU NEXT WEEK AS WE PRO AND TIM 848 00:25:17,966 --> 00:25:21,466 GRIMEL WILL BE IN THE SEAT. 849 00:25:21,466 --> 00:25:23,233 >> TELL HIM I SAID HELLO. 850 00:25:23,233 --> 00:25:25,133 >> SEE YOU THEN, FOLKS. 851 00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:25,833 "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 852 00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:26,500 MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 853 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:27,166 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 854 00:25:27,166 --> 00:25:27,833 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 855 00:25:27,833 --> 00:25:28,533 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 856 00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:29,233 SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 857 00:25:29,233 --> 00:25:29,933 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 858 00:25:29,933 --> 00:25:30,633 OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 859 00:25:30,633 --> 00:25:31,033 GRAND RAPIDS. 860 00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:31,566 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 861 00:25:31,566 --> 00:25:32,166 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 862 00:25:32,166 --> 00:25:32,833 CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 863 00:25:32,833 --> 00:25:33,533 THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 864 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:33,800 1941. 865 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,500 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 866 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:35,200 FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 867 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,666 MICHIGAN SEASONS. 868 00:25:35,666 --> 00:25:36,366 HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 869 00:25:36,366 --> 00:25:36,700 IT TAKES. 870 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:37,133 HAGER FOX.COM." 871 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:37,700 "AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 872 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:38,266 AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL 873 00:25:38,266 --> 00:25:38,633 RESOURCES. 874 00:25:38,633 --> 00:25:39,300 TACKLING THE WORLD'S BIGGEST 875 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,000 PROBLEMS RELATED TO FOOD, ENERGY 876 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,566 AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 877 00:25:40,566 --> 00:25:41,266 WITH 20 MAJORS, 17 MINORS AND 12 878 00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:41,866 CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS, THE 879 00:25:41,866 --> 00:25:42,500 COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND 880 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,133 NATURAL RESOURCES PROVIDES 881 00:25:43,133 --> 00:25:43,766 STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO 882 00:25:43,766 --> 00:26:13,266 EXCEL." 883 00:26:13,266 --> 00:26:16,366 FOR MORE OFF THE RECORD VISIT 884 00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:18,733 WKAR.ORG MICHIGAN PUBLIC 885 00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:19,666 TELEVISIONS STATIONS HAVE 886 00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:21,233 CONTRIBUTED TO THE PRODUCTION 887 00:26:21,233 --> 00:26:23,300 COSTS OF OFF THE RECORD WITH TIM 888 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,300 SKUBICK.