WEBVTT 00:00.133 --> 00:02.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> WELCOME BACK TO THE SPECIAL 00:02.133 --> 00:04.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% EDITION OF OFF THE RECORD. 00:04.066 --> 00:05.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:75% IT'S A BUSY ONE AS WE UNBUNDLE 00:05.800 --> 00:06.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% INCLUDING THE REPUBLICAN AND 00:06.800 --> 00:08.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% DEMOCRATIC PARTY CONVENTIONS THE 00:08.400 --> 00:09.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% GOVERNOR'S KIDNAPPING TRIAL GO 00:09.900 --> 00:12.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% SOUTH WITH THE FBI AND A 00:12.066 --> 00:13.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% POSSIBLE DEAL INVOLVING DONALD 00:13.700 --> 00:15.700 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TRUMP AND AN ENDORSEMENT IN THE 00:15.700 --> 00:21.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% RACE FOR GOVERNOR. 00:21.833 --> 00:23.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET THE 00:23.800 --> 00:28.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% INSIDE OUT OFF THE RECORD. 00:28.566 --> 00:30.233 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD 00:30.233 --> 00:31.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY 00:31.933 --> 00:33.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% MARTIN WEHMEIER A FULL-SERVICE 00:33.833 --> 00:36.133 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS AGENCY 00:36.133 --> 00:37.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% PARTNERING WITH CLIENTS TO 00:37.366 --> 00:38.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% PUBLIC RELATIONS DIGITAL 00:38.866 --> 00:40.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% MARKETING AND PUBLIC POLICY 00:40.266 --> 00:45.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% ENGAGEMENT. 00:45.200 --> 00:47.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> NOW THIS EDITION OF OFF THE 00:47.866 --> 00:50.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:17.5% RECORD. 00:50.433 --> 00:51.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% >> WELCOME BACK. 00:51.866 --> 00:53.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% AS OFTEN HAPPENS IN THIS 00:53.100 --> 00:55.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% BUSINESS WE PUT LAST WEEK'S 00:55.566 --> 00:58.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% PROGRAM TO BED AND THAT A BIG 00:58.100 --> 00:59.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% STORY. 00:59.800 --> 01:01.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% WHO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE 01:01.333 --> 01:06.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% DECISION AND THE GOVERNOR 01:06.366 --> 01:07.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% KIDNAPPING CASE. 01:07.466 --> 01:08.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> THERE WINNERS AND LOSERS IN 01:08.800 --> 01:10.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% EVERY TRIBE AND NO ONE SAW THIS 01:10.000 --> 01:11.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% COMING I WAS IN COURT AS THESE 01:11.400 --> 01:12.633 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% VERDICTS AND NON- VERDICTS WERE 01:12.633 --> 01:13.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:25% ANNOUNCED. 01:13.800 --> 01:15.733 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% FAMILY MEMBERS WERE GASPING AND 01:15.733 --> 01:18.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THEN THERE WERE TEARS OF JOY. 01:18.100 --> 01:24.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> IS HE HAPPY HE HAD -- IS HE 01:24.533 --> 01:25.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% HAPPY? 01:25.466 --> 01:27.533 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> DON'T OVERSTATE THE OBVIOUS. 01:27.533 --> 01:29.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> IT WAS A ROLL OF THE DICE FOR 01:29.033 --> 01:30.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THEIR SON DANIEL HERE TOOK THE 01:30.700 --> 01:35.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% STAND AND TOLD JURY THERE IS NO 01:35.466 --> 01:41.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% SERIOUS PLOT TO KIDNAP THE 01:41.233 --> 01:41.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% GOVERNOR. 01:41.966 --> 01:43.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% HARRIS HAD TO BEEN FOUND NOT 01:43.433 --> 01:45.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% GUILTY ON KIDNAPPING CONSPIRACY 01:45.666 --> 01:48.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% TO BOMB CHARGES AND THE ILLEGALS 01:48.000 --> 01:49.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% SHORT BARREL RIFLE CHARGE 01:49.500 --> 01:51.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% APPEARED >> HE DID AN INCREDIBLE 01:51.866 --> 01:53.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% JOB TELLING THE TRUTH AT THE 01:53.400 --> 01:54.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% JURY BELIEVED HIM AND I'M SO 01:54.933 --> 01:56.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HAPPY THEY GAVE HIM THE BENEFIT 01:56.666 --> 01:58.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% OF THAT PURE >> IT'S A STUNNING 01:58.433 --> 02:00.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% DEFEAT FOR THE FEDS THE FBI 02:00.400 --> 02:08.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% INVESTED SO MUCH IN THIS. 02:08.500 --> 02:10.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THEY MADE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF 02:10.000 --> 02:13.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% UNDERCOVER RECORDING. 02:13.166 --> 02:14.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> WE ARE DISAPPOINTED WITH THE 02:14.400 --> 02:16.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% OUTCOME. 02:16.766 --> 02:17.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% WITHOUT THE JURY WOULD CONVICT 02:17.700 --> 02:19.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% CONVICT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE WE 02:19.200 --> 02:20.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:30% PUT FORWARD. 02:20.000 --> 02:22.366 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> BRANDON WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY 02:22.366 --> 02:24.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% ON HIS CHARGE CONSPIRACY TO 02:24.100 --> 02:26.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% KIDNAP AT THE GOVERNOR. 02:26.400 --> 02:31.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THE JURY'S VIDEOS OF HIM, AND 02:31.600 --> 02:34.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THAT HE WOULD TAKE NO PRISONERS. 02:34.866 --> 02:36.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> IF THIS WHOLE THING STARTS TO 02:36.466 --> 02:38.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% HAPPEN I TELL YOU WHAT I AM 02:38.366 --> 02:41.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% TAKING OUT AS MANY OF THOSE AS I 02:41.433 --> 02:42.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:10% CAN. 02:42.400 --> 02:43.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% EVERY SINGLE ONE. 02:43.500 --> 02:45.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> HIS ATTORNEY SAID IT WAS FREE 02:45.800 --> 02:47.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SPEECH IS NOT A CRIME AND THIS 02:47.966 --> 02:49.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% WAS NEVER A PLOT. 02:49.466 --> 02:51.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> ARE GOVERNOR WAS NEVER IN ANY 02:51.566 --> 02:54.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% DANGER AND I THINK THE JURY 02:54.200 --> 02:55.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% DIDN'T GET ALL OF IT BUT THEY 02:55.800 --> 02:57.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% SMELLED ENOUGH OF IT. 02:57.233 --> 02:59.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:37.5% >> IS HE HAPPY? 02:59.200 --> 03:00.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> I'M SURE IT IS IT IS HIS 03:00.766 --> 03:01.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% BIRTHDAY. 03:01.966 --> 03:04.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> TURNS OUT THEY WERE RELEASED 03:04.433 --> 03:05.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% FROM CUSTODY WITHIN MINUTES THEY 03:05.800 --> 03:06.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% HAD BEEN LOCKED UP SINCE THEY 03:06.966 --> 03:08.266 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WERE ARRESTED A YEAR AND A HALF 03:08.266 --> 03:09.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:10% AGO. 03:09.466 --> 03:10.833 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THIS WAS A JURY OF SIX WOMEN IN 03:10.833 --> 03:12.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SIX MEN'S IDENTITIES ARE NOT 03:12.366 --> 03:14.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% REVEALED PUBLICLY EVEN DEFENSE 03:14.133 --> 03:15.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% ATTORNEYS DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY 03:15.366 --> 03:16.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:10% ARE. 03:16.300 --> 03:17.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% JURORS WERE TOLD BY THE JUDGE IF 03:17.766 --> 03:18.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% YOU WANT TO TALK WITH THE 03:18.533 --> 03:20.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% ATTORNEYS AND OTHER THIS IS OVER 03:20.233 --> 03:22.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% YOU CALL THEM AND THEY DIDN'T 03:22.100 --> 03:23.866 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TALK WITH US AS THEY LEFT COURT 03:23.866 --> 03:25.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% HERE THIS AFTERNOON. 03:25.600 --> 03:27.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WENT ON INSIDE 03:27.466 --> 03:29.366 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THE JURY ROOM FOR THE LAST FIVE 03:29.366 --> 03:30.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% DAYS DURING THE MONTH OF THIS 03:30.800 --> 03:34.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% TRIAL. 03:34.100 --> 03:36.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> AS OUR RACHEL HOLLIS' STORY 03:36.233 --> 03:37.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% PLAYING OUTPOST WOULD HAPPENED 03:37.666 --> 03:39.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:30% LAST FRIDAY. 03:39.200 --> 03:40.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER AND LOOK 03:40.900 --> 03:42.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% INTO THE STATE CASES OF THIS IS 03:42.900 --> 03:45.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% FAR FROM OVER IN MANY CASES I 03:45.300 --> 03:49.033 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THINK THAT NEXT, FIRST, WE NEED 03:49.033 --> 03:50.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE 03:50.533 --> 03:51.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ROOM BUT THIS WAS A SHOCK FOR 03:51.800 --> 03:54.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% EVERYONE WHEN THIS HAPPENED. 03:54.333 --> 03:56.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% NOT NECESSARILY THAT SOME PEOPLE 03:56.066 --> 03:58.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% GOT OFF BUT THAT THERE WAS NO 03:58.066 --> 04:00.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% CONVICTIONS OF ANY KIND SO FAR. 04:00.433 --> 04:01.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WE DO HAVE TWO MORE TRIALS TO 04:01.733 --> 04:03.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% COME HERE WITH THE STATE TRIAL 04:03.966 --> 04:09.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BUT I THINK THERE WAS THE FREE 04:09.733 --> 04:11.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SPEECH DEFENSE BUT FOR HARRIS HE 04:11.866 --> 04:13.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% HAD A LOT OF CHARGES THAT HE WAS 04:13.300 --> 04:14.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% FACING AND THERE WAS MORE 04:14.500 --> 04:16.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% EVIDENCE FOR HIM AS WELL AND SO 04:16.566 --> 04:18.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% I THINK MAYBE JIM YOU COULD 04:18.466 --> 04:19.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SPEAK TO THIS MORE BUT I WAS 04:19.866 --> 04:21.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SURPRISED THAT THINGS PLAYED OUT 04:21.166 --> 04:22.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% THE WAY THEY DID. 04:22.666 --> 04:24.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> NO ONE SAW THIS COMING. 04:24.966 --> 04:26.866 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HARRIS, WE ALL THOUGHT HE WOULD 04:26.866 --> 04:28.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% GET CONVICTED ON THAT GUN CHARGE 04:28.633 --> 04:30.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% BECAUSE THE TESTIMONY WAS HE HAD 04:30.533 --> 04:31.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THE THE SHORT-BARRELED ILLEGAL 04:31.866 --> 04:33.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% RIFLE THAT WAS A NO-BRAINER HE 04:33.933 --> 04:35.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% HAD POSSESSION SO WHAT WENT ON 04:35.733 --> 04:37.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% IN THE MAINZ OF THE JURORS? 04:37.666 --> 04:39.166 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% BUT MOVING FORWARD THIS IS WHAT 04:39.166 --> 04:40.600 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% I FIND INTERESTING AND YOU WILL 04:40.600 --> 04:41.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% LOVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A 04:41.433 --> 04:42.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% POLITICAL ANGLE. 04:42.833 --> 04:44.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CREWS AND THE DRIVER SEAT NOW? 04:44.800 --> 04:46.133 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HERE'S 04:46.133 --> 04:47.733 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WHY SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE TWO 04:47.733 --> 04:50.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% STATE CASES IN JACKSON COUNTY 04:50.166 --> 04:52.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% AND THOSE ARE HER CHARGES AND 04:52.233 --> 04:54.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THAT SHE CAN CHARGE THESE GUYS 04:54.000 --> 04:55.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% YOU ARE EQUATED WITH STATE 04:55.366 --> 04:56.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% CHARGES AND IT'S NOT DOUBLE 04:56.733 --> 04:58.700 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% JEOPARDY IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR 04:58.700 --> 04:59.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% FOR HER. 04:59.833 --> 05:01.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% WILL SHE DO THAT? 05:01.633 --> 05:03.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> YES AS EVER WOULD HAVE SAID 05:03.600 --> 05:06.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THIS IS NOT OVER BUT IT SEEMED 05:06.266 --> 05:08.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% LIKE THERE WERE GASPS AS YOU 05:08.333 --> 05:09.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% KNOW. 05:09.333 --> 05:10.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% WE HEARD THE RESPONSE FROM THE 05:10.466 --> 05:11.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% GOVERNOR'S OFFICE NOT FROM THE 05:11.966 --> 05:13.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% GOVERNOR DIRECTLY THE DAY OF THE 05:13.500 --> 05:15.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% CHARGES AND PUTTING THIS TO 05:15.666 --> 05:18.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% CONTEXT SAYING THAT THE FACT 05:18.000 --> 05:20.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THAT THERE WERE NO CONVICTIONS 05:20.600 --> 05:27.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% IT THIS MESSAGE AND CONTINUES 05:27.233 --> 05:29.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% UNDER HEATED RHETORIC AND THE 05:29.366 --> 05:31.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% VIOLENCE IN SOME CASES WE HAVE 05:31.000 --> 05:32.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SEEN OVER THE PASS FEW YEARS AND 05:32.966 --> 05:34.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THIS POLITICAL MOMENT THAT WE 05:34.433 --> 05:36.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% FIND OURSELVES IN WHICH I THINK 05:36.400 --> 05:38.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% FOR MANY IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY 05:38.400 --> 05:41.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% JUST THE FACT THAT IT WAS A 05:41.433 --> 05:45.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SIGNAL THAT WAS WE HAD DEMOCRATS 05:45.900 --> 05:47.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% TALKING ABOUT THAT AGAIN THE DAY 05:47.966 --> 05:52.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% AFTER THEY WERE NOMINATED. 05:52.766 --> 05:55.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> WE TALK ABOUT THE TIME WHERE 05:55.466 --> 05:57.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED AND THIS IS 05:57.233 --> 05:58.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% SOMETHING THE PEOPLE FORGET 05:58.033 --> 05:59.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% ABOUT OFTEN WHEN IT COMES TO A 05:59.933 --> 06:01.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% JURY YOU HAVE TO SELECT 12 06:01.366 --> 06:03.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% PEOPLE RANDOMLY TRY TO FIND 12 06:03.500 --> 06:04.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% PEOPLE AT THIS STATE THAT A 06:04.833 --> 06:06.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% GREAT ON ANY POLITICAL MATTER 06:06.700 --> 06:08.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THAT YOU SELECT RANDOMLY AND 06:08.466 --> 06:10.066 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND I THINK 06:10.066 --> 06:11.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE 06:11.733 --> 06:13.600 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ON THE MIND OF ATTORNEY GENERAL 06:13.600 --> 06:15.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% AND THE FBI AND PROSECUTORS 06:15.666 --> 06:17.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% ACROSS THE STATE. 06:17.233 --> 06:18.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% >> SPEAKING OF THAT JURY 06:18.766 --> 06:20.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% QUESTION MATT SNYDER WHO IS 06:20.733 --> 06:22.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% INCREDIBLY SMART AND A FORMER 06:22.833 --> 06:24.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% FEDERAL PROSECUTOR HIMSELF SAID 06:24.900 --> 06:26.533 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HE WAS SURPRISED THAT THE JUDGE 06:26.533 --> 06:27.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% DIDN'T ASK THE JURY MORE 06:27.900 --> 06:30.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT 06:30.366 --> 06:33.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% WHAT BIASES THEY MAY HAVE. 06:33.100 --> 06:35.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% LET'S REMEMBER EVEN SOME OF 06:35.200 --> 06:38.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THESE JURORS THAT SAY I AM A 06:38.066 --> 06:39.700 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% NEWS JUNKIE BUT I HAVEN'T FILED 06:39.700 --> 06:42.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THE CASE THAT MUCH AND I THOUGHT 06:42.100 --> 06:44.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THAT WAS INTERESTING BUT ALSO 06:44.333 --> 06:46.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% YOUR POINT ABOUT MOVING FORWARD 06:46.400 --> 06:48.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% AND ALSO ANOTHER THING THAT 06:48.200 --> 06:49.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% MATHIEU SNYDER SAID THEY GOT 06:49.900 --> 06:53.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SMART WISE THAT YOU CAN GO AND 06:53.300 --> 06:54.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% IF THE JURORS WANT TO BE 06:54.700 --> 06:56.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% INTERVIEWED AND AND THEY MAY 06:56.633 --> 06:58.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% JUST DO THAT IF THE JURORS ARE 06:58.533 --> 07:00.733 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WILLING TO AND SAY THIS IS WHAT 07:00.733 --> 07:02.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:47.5% DIDN'T WORK FOR US. 07:02.966 --> 07:04.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% AND IF THEY DO TRY THE RETRIAL 07:04.933 --> 07:06.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WILL BE 07:06.400 --> 07:07.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% AND THAT'S WHAT ANDREW BURCH 07:07.866 --> 07:08.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% SAID IN THE STATEMENT EVEN 07:08.866 --> 07:10.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THOUGH HE WAS NOT SUPER CLEAR 07:10.600 --> 07:13.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% BUT THAT THEY COULD IF THE 07:13.133 --> 07:14.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% JURORS ARE WILLING TO SAY HERE 07:14.866 --> 07:16.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% IS WHAT FOR WORK -- WORKED FOR 07:16.566 --> 07:18.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% US AND WHAT DID NOT AND IT COULD 07:18.166 --> 07:19.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% AGAIN JUST BE A JURY OF YOUR 07:19.400 --> 07:22.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% PEERS ALL 12 A DEGREE I SAT AS A 07:22.600 --> 07:24.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% MURRAY DISH MURDER TRIAL AS A 07:24.166 --> 07:25.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% JUROR AND ONE HOLDOUT CAN MAKE 07:25.533 --> 07:26.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:47.5% ALL THE DIFFERENCE. 07:26.433 --> 07:28.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> THE FBI TOOK A HIT ON THIS 07:28.800 --> 07:31.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THE ENTRAPMENT THING RESONATED 07:31.066 --> 07:32.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:35% WITH THE JURY. 07:32.733 --> 07:36.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> I THINK WILL THESE JURORS 07:36.033 --> 07:38.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DECIDE TO TALK AND IF THEY DO I 07:38.000 --> 07:39.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THINK ALL THESE PROSECUTORS FOR 07:39.433 --> 07:41.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THE UPCOMING TRIALS ARE WAITING 07:41.666 --> 07:43.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO FIND OUT 07:43.866 --> 07:45.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WHAT DIDN'T WORK WHAT DO WE NEED 07:45.333 --> 07:46.966 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TO HIT ON MORE FOR THE NEXT FEW 07:46.966 --> 07:48.933 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TRIALS BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE 07:48.933 --> 07:53.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% KEY AND IT WILL BE THE DEFENSE 07:53.800 --> 07:56.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% OF THE PROSECUTOR GOING FORWARD. 07:56.466 --> 07:58.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> I THINK OF THE JURORS GO 07:58.000 --> 08:00.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% PUBLIC MY THING IS THEY WILL 08:00.433 --> 08:02.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SHOW UP ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL ON 08:02.700 --> 08:05.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% CABLE NATIONALLY THEY WILL REACH 08:05.233 --> 08:06.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% OUT AND WANT THEIR STORY OUT 08:06.866 --> 08:08.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THERE THEY WILL TALK WITH THE 08:08.300 --> 08:10.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% PRODUCER BEHIND THE SCENES AND 08:10.266 --> 08:12.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WORK OUT THE CONVERSATION AND 08:12.566 --> 08:19.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THESE WILL BE THE QUESTIONS. 08:19.500 --> 08:20.500 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TELL THEIR 08:20.500 --> 08:22.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% STORY AND THIS IS THE SECOND 08:22.833 --> 08:26.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% TIME THEY LOST ON A GROUP OF 08:26.533 --> 08:33.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% GOVERNMENT PEOPLE. 08:33.533 --> 08:37.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THEY DIDN'T GO TO THE JURY. 08:37.200 --> 08:41.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THERE WASN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE. 08:41.366 --> 08:43.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> WHEN YOU HEAR THE DIALOGUE 08:43.266 --> 08:44.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THAT THEY WENT TO HER VACATION 08:44.633 --> 08:48.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% COTTAGE AND STAKED OUT THE PLACE 08:48.533 --> 08:50.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WITH A MEN AND WOMEN CONCLUDE 08:50.433 --> 08:51.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THAT THEY WERE JUST SHOOTING THE 08:51.066 --> 08:55.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:17.5% BREEZE? 08:55.000 --> 08:56.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% WE WASTED FRIDAY OR SATURDAY 08:56.366 --> 08:58.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% NIGHT DRIVING TO WHERE THEY WERE 08:58.300 --> 09:00.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE LOCATION? 09:00.566 --> 09:01.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% AT THE RHETORIC IN THE TRIAL 09:01.800 --> 09:03.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SEEM TO POINT TOWARD SOME SORT 09:03.533 --> 09:05.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:35% OF CONVICTION. 09:05.000 --> 09:07.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% I WAS NOT THERE BUT YOU TELL ME. 09:07.600 --> 09:09.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% >> IS A JUDGE GAVE THEM A 09:09.333 --> 09:11.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SPECIFIC INSTRUCTION THAT SAID 09:11.266 --> 09:13.200 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% EVEN IF YOU JURORS BELIEVE THAT 09:13.200 --> 09:14.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THIS WAS AN IMPOSSIBLE PLOT TO 09:14.833 --> 09:17.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CARRY OUT YOU HAVE TO SET THAT 09:17.333 --> 09:19.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% PART ASIDE AND SO WE'RE JUST 09:19.733 --> 09:21.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% SPECULATING WHAT'S INSIDE THE 09:21.100 --> 09:22.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% MAINZ OF THE JURORS BUT THERE 09:22.900 --> 09:24.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WAS A PLOT BUT AS I HAVE LOOKED 09:24.900 --> 09:26.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BACK AT THIS THERE WAS A STORY 09:26.666 --> 09:32.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% BUT NOT AN ENDING TO THE STORY. 09:32.466 --> 09:33.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THERE IS NOTHING TO THE CASE 09:33.466 --> 09:36.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% THERE ALL ARRESTED 09:36.466 --> 09:37.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% SIMULTANEOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE 09:37.533 --> 09:38.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% STATE. 09:38.166 --> 09:39.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ALL 14 BUT THERE IS NEVER ANY 09:39.800 --> 09:41.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% EVIDENCE THAT WE WILL ALL MEET 09:41.166 --> 09:42.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ON THE 15TH OF OCTOBER OR THE 09:42.766 --> 09:45.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% 20TH OF OCTOBER YEAR HERE 09:45.100 --> 09:47.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% YOU'RE HERE YOU'RE HERE AND 09:47.333 --> 09:48.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% THAT'S THE END GAME. 09:48.800 --> 09:50.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THAT WAS NOT THE END GAME TO 09:50.366 --> 09:52.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THIS PLOT THOUGH A JUROR COULD 09:52.300 --> 09:54.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SAY IT WAS ALL TALK WHICH IS ONE 09:54.500 --> 09:55.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% OF THE DEFENSES. 09:55.600 --> 09:57.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% ANOTHER WAS ENTRAPMENT. 09:57.766 --> 09:59.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THERE WERE PEOPLE FOR THE FEDS 09:59.500 --> 10:01.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% IN FEDS INFORMANTS AND FBI AGENT 10:01.733 --> 10:03.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WHO'S INFILTRATED THIS AND THERE 10:03.433 --> 10:05.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WAS EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE EGG 10:05.466 --> 10:07.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% IT ON AND ENTICED AND INDUCED TO 10:07.733 --> 10:10.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% CONTINUE THEIR PLOT. 10:10.033 --> 10:12.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> WHEN WE HAD THE ATTORNEY 10:12.300 --> 10:14.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% GENERAL ON A COUPLE WEEKS AGO 10:14.533 --> 10:15.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SHE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SOLID 10:15.933 --> 10:17.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% CASE. 10:17.066 --> 10:19.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> THUS TO THE GASPS AND WHEN 10:19.033 --> 10:20.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% EVERYONE WAS SO SHOCKED AND 10:20.533 --> 10:22.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% AGAIN I THINK THE GOVERNOR'S 10:22.500 --> 10:25.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% OFFICE COMING IN SAYING IS THIS 10:25.000 --> 10:26.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:37.5% THE NEW NORMAL? 10:26.833 --> 10:28.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% IS THIS THE EXPECTATION YOU HAVE 10:28.666 --> 10:29.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% AN HOUR WHEN YOU'RE ELECTED IN 10:29.833 --> 10:31.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THE OFFICE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO 10:31.500 --> 10:33.233 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TAKE THREATS AND FOLKS CAN MAKE 10:33.233 --> 10:36.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% BOMBS AND DRIVE PASS YOUR 10:36.300 --> 10:38.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:35% PERSONAL HOME? 10:38.366 --> 10:40.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% AND IS THIS WHERE WE FIND 10:40.066 --> 10:41.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% OURSELVES AFTER THESE FEW 10:41.833 --> 10:43.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% VIOLENT YEARS IN AMERICAN 10:43.233 --> 10:45.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% POLITICS? 10:45.066 --> 10:47.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> IS A STORY IS NOT GOING AWAY? 10:47.400 --> 10:48.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:35% >> NOT AT ALL. 10:48.933 --> 10:50.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WHAT WE HAVE SEEN PLAY OUT IS 10:50.533 --> 10:52.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SOME REPUBLICANS HAVE STARTED TO 10:52.100 --> 10:54.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WEAVE A CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT 10:54.433 --> 10:56.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THE GOVERNOR AND THE AUTHORITIES 10:56.533 --> 10:59.100 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE BEHIND 10:59.100 --> 11:01.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% IT BUT IT IS A RESONATING. 11:01.733 --> 11:04.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> LET'S PUT THIS ON THE TABLE. 11:04.666 --> 11:06.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SAUL DONNELL HINTED THAT MAY THE 11:06.300 --> 11:07.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% GOVERNOR WAS BEHIND THIS PLOT 11:07.666 --> 11:09.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% WITH THE FBI DID I HEAR THAT 11:09.766 --> 11:11.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:25% CORRECTLY? 11:11.400 --> 11:13.500 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> ON ITS FACE IT IS RIDICULOUS 11:13.500 --> 11:15.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% BECAUSE WHO IS AN OFFICE IN 11:15.300 --> 11:17.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF 11:17.100 --> 11:18.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% JUSTICE AT THE TIME THE PLOT WAS 11:18.566 --> 11:19.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:32.5% INVESTIGATED? 11:19.866 --> 11:21.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% IT WAS DONALD TRUMP AND IN THE 11:21.600 --> 11:23.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BEGINNING HE WAS TAKING CREDIT 11:23.933 --> 11:28.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% FOR HIS. 11:28.433 --> 11:29.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% PEOPLE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TIME 11:29.800 --> 11:31.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% LINE AND HOW THIS PLAYED OUT 11:31.300 --> 11:31.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% BACK IN 2020 THIS THEORY HAS 11:31.866 --> 11:37.366 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% NOTHING TO IT BUT PEOPLE ARE SO 11:37.366 --> 11:40.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CONSPIRACY MINDED THAT THIS IS 11:40.666 --> 11:46.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% RESONATING. 11:46.500 --> 11:52.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> IN MY REPLIES IN THE JURY'S 11:52.400 --> 11:54.300 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DECISION THERE I STARTED TO SEE 11:54.300 --> 11:56.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% A LOT OF JANUARY 6 WHICH 11:56.666 --> 11:58.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% PRODUCED JANUARY 6 WAS A HOAX 11:58.333 --> 12:00.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% IT'S FBI AS WELL AND THOSE 12:00.366 --> 12:02.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% PEOPLE START TO GET OUT NOW I 12:02.300 --> 12:04.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THINK YOU'LL END UP BEING -- 12:04.333 --> 12:06.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% IT'S A NATIONAL STORY BUT IT 12:06.200 --> 12:07.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATIONAL 12:07.533 --> 12:09.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% STORY AND POTENTIALLY HAVING 12:09.933 --> 12:13.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THIS DOMINO EFFECT OF WHAT CAN 12:13.033 --> 12:15.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% TRUST. 12:15.733 --> 12:17.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSPIRACY 12:17.500 --> 12:18.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% MINDED WILL FEED INTO THAT MORE 12:18.900 --> 12:20.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% AND SAY WHAT CAN WE TRUST 12:20.166 --> 12:22.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% ANYMORE. 12:22.600 --> 12:24.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> LET'S TALK ABOUT DONALD 12:24.266 --> 12:27.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% TRUMP. 12:27.366 --> 12:29.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE THE STORY 12:29.066 --> 12:30.500 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% BUT LET'S LOOK AT WHAT MIGHT BE 12:30.500 --> 12:35.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:37.5% GOING GOING ON. 12:35.033 --> 12:36.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP 12:36.433 --> 12:38.600 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HAS ENDORSED LOTS OF CANDIDATES 12:38.600 --> 12:40.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% IN MICHIGAN RUNNING FOR OFFICE 12:40.400 --> 12:41.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% BUT IN THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S 12:41.500 --> 12:43.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% RACE TO DEFEAT THE WOMAN FROM 12:43.333 --> 12:45.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% MICHIGAN QUOTE UNQUOTE DONALD 12:45.300 --> 12:47.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TRUMP HAS BEEN ALL CRICKETS ON 12:47.466 --> 12:49.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THE ENDORSEMENT FRONT HOWEVER TO 12:49.800 --> 12:51.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% MICHIGAN SOURCES NOW CONTEND 12:51.633 --> 12:53.433 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THAT MR. TRUMP WILL ENDORSE THE 12:53.433 --> 12:55.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% REPUBLICAN PRIMARY UNDER THESE 12:55.633 --> 12:57.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% CONDITIONS, POLITICAL AND 12:57.633 --> 12:59.966 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% CONSULTANT JON YOUNG IS WORKING 12:59.966 --> 13:01.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% TO GET MATTHEW TO PERNOD THE 13:01.800 --> 13:03.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR 13:03.166 --> 13:05.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% ATTORNEY GENERAL WHICH MR. TRUMP 13:05.500 --> 13:08.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WANTS UNDER THIS ALLEGED DEAL IF 13:08.133 --> 13:08.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% HE DELIVERS A NUMBER ANOTHER 13:08.866 --> 13:10.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% MEDICATION FOR DEPRESSION OF THE 13:10.433 --> 13:11.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% FORMER PRESIDENT WILL THEN 13:11.466 --> 13:13.233 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DELIVER HIS ENDORSEMENT FOR THE 13:13.233 --> 13:14.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% CLIENT FOR GOVERNOR. 13:14.833 --> 13:16.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% JOHNSON. 13:16.066 --> 13:17.766 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% I MICHIGAN POLLSTER AND PUNDITS 13:17.766 --> 13:19.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% ARGUE THAT THIS IS A GAME 13:19.566 --> 13:20.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:20% CHANGER. 13:20.900 --> 13:23.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN IT'S 13:23.700 --> 13:24.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:15% A TEN. 13:24.933 --> 13:26.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% IT DOESN'T GET BIGGER THAN THAT. 13:26.900 --> 13:30.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> THE NOMINATION REALLY WILL BE 13:30.066 --> 13:32.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DECIDED BY AN EVER DONALD TRUMP 13:32.800 --> 13:34.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% ENDORSES AND IF HE ENDORSES 13:34.600 --> 13:37.200 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% PERRY JOHNSON THEN THAT WILL BE 13:37.200 --> 13:39.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% A VERY SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN THIS 13:39.333 --> 13:40.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% CAMPAIGN. 13:40.633 --> 13:42.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> AND POLITICAL PUNDIT BILL 13:42.666 --> 13:44.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% BALLENGER CONCURS. 13:44.600 --> 13:46.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% >> THESE POLLS SHOW THAT 13:46.766 --> 13:49.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% 80 PERCENT OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARY 13:49.766 --> 13:51.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% VOTERS WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO 13:51.500 --> 13:53.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% VOTE FOR CANDIDATE WHO IS 13:53.700 --> 13:55.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% ENDORSED BY TRUMP. 13:55.566 --> 13:57.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> MR. TRUMP'S OFFICE HAS NOT 13:57.333 --> 13:59.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% CONFIRMED THE STORY BUT IF TRUE 13:59.400 --> 14:00.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER CANDIDATES 14:00.566 --> 14:03.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR, ALL 11? 14:03.366 --> 14:05.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% LOOK COULD THEY BE THINKING? 14:05.266 --> 14:07.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> YOU THINK YOU HOPE IT'S NOT 14:07.033 --> 14:08.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% TRUE. 14:08.300 --> 14:10.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% >> YOU THINK IT WOULD SET 14:10.866 --> 14:13.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SOMETHING IN MOTION THAT COULD 14:13.466 --> 14:16.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% LEAD TO JOHNSON BEING ABLE TO BE 14:16.366 --> 14:19.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% PERCEIVED AS THE FRONT RUNNER. 14:19.800 --> 14:22.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> SO IF YOU'RE KEVIN WINKY HER 14:22.566 --> 14:24.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% TUTOR DIXON AND SAUL DONNELL AND 14:24.666 --> 14:25.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% YOU HEAR THE STORY FOR THE FIRST 14:25.933 --> 14:27.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% TIME WHAT DO YOU THINK? 14:27.433 --> 14:29.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> I THINK THEY REALIZE THAT THE 14:29.466 --> 14:31.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% JIG MAY BE UP HERE >> THE TRUMP 14:31.466 --> 14:34.233 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ENDORSEMENT OF PERRY JOHNSON WE 14:34.233 --> 14:36.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WILL KNOW AFTER APRIL 23RD IF 14:36.300 --> 14:39.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:55% THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS. 14:39.266 --> 14:41.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> WHEN YOU HEARD THIS YOU SAID 14:41.800 --> 14:47.700 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% IT'S BUBIK IS THAT SHE YOU WHEN 14:47.700 --> 14:48.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% YOU HEARD THE STORIES THAT YOU 14:48.666 --> 14:50.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:55% THINK IS ON SOMETHING. 14:50.200 --> 14:52.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> LOOK COULD BE POSSIBLE? 14:52.733 --> 14:53.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% SURE. 14:53.800 --> 14:55.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> DOESN'T THIS SOUND LIKE 14:55.200 --> 14:57.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% DONALD TRUMP AND JON YOUNG? 14:57.500 --> 15:00.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> YES AND YES AND IT ALSO 15:00.066 --> 15:02.033 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% SOUNDS LIKE ANY OF THESE THINGS 15:02.033 --> 15:03.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% MAY BE DONALD TRUMP MAKES A DEAL 15:03.933 --> 15:06.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% UNTIL HE DOESN'T AND IT BUT TO 15:06.600 --> 15:08.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% THE POINT I THINK THERE IS 15:08.733 --> 15:10.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THERE THAT 15:10.800 --> 15:12.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WE KNOW ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN 15:12.700 --> 15:16.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% CANDIDATES, ALL 1,472 OF THEM 15:16.133 --> 15:18.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THERE WILL BE LIKELY IF A FEW 15:18.666 --> 15:20.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% ALASKA IN APRIL 19TH AT 15:20.333 --> 15:22.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% 4:00 P.M. BUT ALL OF THEM WANT 15:22.766 --> 15:25.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THE DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE AT 15:25.566 --> 15:28.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% LEAST IT GETS THEM THROUGH THE 15:28.266 --> 15:30.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% REPUBLICAN PRIMARY BUT WE ALSO 15:30.600 --> 15:32.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT DOES THE 15:32.566 --> 15:35.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% ENDORSEMENT DO COME THE GENERAL? 15:35.600 --> 15:37.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 15:37.766 --> 15:39.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SHORTSIGHTED BUT YOU HAVE TO GET 15:39.333 --> 15:40.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TO THE NEXT ELECTION AND SO OF 15:40.633 --> 15:42.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% COURSE THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE 15:42.100 --> 15:44.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% WANTS P OR ? HAVE BEEN TALKING 15:44.000 --> 15:45.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% ABOUT TUTOR DIXON IT SEEMED LIKE 15:45.500 --> 15:47.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% MAYBE THERE WAS SOME LOVE IS 15:47.800 --> 15:50.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:35% THERE BUT YES. 15:50.000 --> 15:52.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> SHE HAS SO MANY ON HER STAFF 15:52.400 --> 15:53.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% WITH CONNECTIONS TO THE 15:53.433 --> 15:55.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% PRESIDENT THAT ARE THAT COMES 15:55.166 --> 15:56.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% FROM. 15:56.133 --> 15:57.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> THAT'S TRUE BUT THE FORMER 15:57.600 --> 15:59.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% PRESIDENT MADE MULTIPLE COMMENTS 15:59.400 --> 16:00.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THAT ARE GLOWING ABOUT TUTOR 16:00.966 --> 16:02.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DIXON WHICH IS MORE YOU CAN SAY 16:02.666 --> 16:03.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:10% FOR. 16:03.100 --> 16:04.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% JOHNSON WHO HE DIDN'T EVEN 16:04.600 --> 16:06.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% RECOGNIZE WHEN HE CAME TO MACOMB 16:06.233 --> 16:07.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:17.5% COUNTY. 16:07.300 --> 16:08.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% >> HE RECOGNIZED THEM IN A 16:08.866 --> 16:10.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% FLORIDA SAYING THE POLLING 16:10.800 --> 16:18.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GOOD. 16:18.266 --> 16:19.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% TAKE IT'S HARD TO SAVE IT'S TRUE 16:19.733 --> 16:21.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% OR NOT BUT IF IT IS IT'S NOT 16:21.400 --> 16:23.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SURPRISING PICK THE PEOPLE TRUMP 16:23.200 --> 16:24.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% HAS BEEN ENDORSING HAS ALWAYS 16:24.433 --> 16:25.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% BEEN A GAME OF HOW IT COULD HELP 16:25.933 --> 16:28.133 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HIM EVERYONE HE HAS ENDORSED SO 16:28.133 --> 16:29.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% FAR HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE 16:29.733 --> 16:32.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% HAD AT THE VERY LEAST SKEPTICISM 16:32.100 --> 16:33.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION AND 16:33.733 --> 16:35.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THOSE RESULTS AND SOME OF THEM 16:35.900 --> 16:37.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% STRONGLY PULLING IT THESE 16:37.666 --> 16:39.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT TRUMP 16:39.700 --> 16:41.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% HAS SHARED BUT I THINK HE IS 16:41.400 --> 16:44.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SETTING UP A KINGDOM HERE IN 16:44.000 --> 16:46.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% MICHIGAN THAT WILL BE FOCUSED ON 16:46.666 --> 16:48.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% HIM SHOULD HE DECIDE TO RUN 16:48.933 --> 16:50.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SHOULD HE POSSIBLY LOSE IN THE 16:50.400 --> 16:51.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% NEXT ELECTION THAT WILL SIDE 16:51.833 --> 16:53.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WITH HIM WHO WOULD GO ALONG WITH 16:53.833 --> 16:55.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THAT AS GOVERNOR I GUESS WE 16:55.633 --> 16:59.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% DON'T TOTALLY KNOW IT, TIM MAYBE 16:59.966 --> 17:01.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% YOU KNOW BETTER. 17:01.566 --> 17:05.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% >> WE WILL FIND OUT. 17:05.600 --> 17:07.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% THIS IS THE POINT. 17:07.166 --> 17:10.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WE WILL KNOW WHETHER THE DEAL 17:10.300 --> 17:14.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% WAS DELIVERED AND HOW THE AG 17:14.800 --> 17:17.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% RACE LOOKS. 17:17.900 --> 17:19.366 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> THERE'S A LOT TO PLAY OUT IN 17:19.366 --> 17:22.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THIS THIS OVER OUT -- OVERLAPPED 17:22.733 --> 17:24.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ANOTHER TOPIC THAT COULD COME 17:24.133 --> 17:26.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% OUT HERE THE RECENT COUNTY 17:26.533 --> 17:29.166 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DELEGATE CONVENTIONS AND BEFORE 17:29.166 --> 17:31.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% HE MOVED OFF OF THE GOVERNOR 17:31.166 --> 17:33.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% CANDIDATE I WANT TO SAY THIS, 17:33.566 --> 17:35.166 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THERE IS DEEP DISSENSION WITHIN 17:35.166 --> 17:36.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 17:36.933 --> 17:38.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> HOW GREAT IS THIS FOR US IN 17:38.533 --> 17:40.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% THE NEWS BUSINESS? 17:40.166 --> 17:42.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% WE HAVE HIGH STAKES DRAMA BEFORE 17:42.133 --> 17:44.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THE HIGH STAKES OF DRAMA BECAUSE 17:44.133 --> 17:45.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% WE HAVE THE HATFIELD AND THE 17:45.500 --> 17:47.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% MCCOYS FIGHTING WITHIN THE 17:47.066 --> 17:48.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% REPUBLICAN PARTY. 17:48.733 --> 17:50.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% GROUND ZERO IS MACOMB COUNTY 17:50.566 --> 17:52.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HE'S ALL OVER IT OVER THERE AND 17:52.566 --> 17:54.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% YOU HAVE A COUNTY CHAIRMAN FOR 17:54.700 --> 17:56.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% DOUBT YOU HAVE A NEW COUNTY 17:56.033 --> 17:57.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:30% CHAIRMAN IN. 17:57.666 --> 17:59.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% THE NEW COUNTY CHAIRMAN IS 17:59.000 --> 18:00.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TRYING TO BRIDGE BOTH SIDES OF 18:00.566 --> 18:02.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% IT BUT HE'S GOING AROUND WE CAN 18:02.566 --> 18:04.866 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% CALL OTHER RHINOCEROSES ANYMORE 18:04.866 --> 18:07.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% AND WE CAN'T DO THE LITMUS TEST, 18:07.233 --> 18:09.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% ARE YOU TRUMP ENOUGH? 18:09.033 --> 18:10.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% THIS IS GRAND FOR US. 18:10.900 --> 18:13.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% IT IS HIGH DRAMA. 18:13.233 --> 18:15.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST WILD 18:15.466 --> 18:17.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% MEETINGS I COVERED IN MY CAREER. 18:17.466 --> 18:18.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT REALLY 18:18.533 --> 18:19.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% BELIEVE THE FUTURE OF THE UNITED 18:19.833 --> 18:22.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% STATES IS ON THE LINE ON 18:22.266 --> 18:24.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% APRIL 23RD IN THE SELECTION 18:24.666 --> 18:27.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% AND IN MANY WAYS IT IS SOMETHING 18:27.266 --> 18:28.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THAT YOU LOVE TO COVER AS A 18:28.666 --> 18:30.300 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% JOURNALIST BECAUSE REALLY IT IS 18:30.300 --> 18:31.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% A TURNING POINT FOR THE 18:31.300 --> 18:35.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% REPUBLICAN PARTY. 18:35.133 --> 18:38.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THE PARTIES AT A CROSSROADS. 18:38.000 --> 18:42.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% APRIL 23RD WILL BE THE FIRST 18:42.833 --> 18:44.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% MOMENT WHERE THEY DECIDE WHICH 18:44.133 --> 18:45.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:37.5% WAY IT WILL GO. 18:45.166 --> 18:47.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> APRIL 23RD IS THE SPRING 18:47.000 --> 18:48.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% NOMINATING CONVENTION WERE ALL 18:48.566 --> 18:50.200 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% REPUBLICANS GATHER AND PICK THE 18:50.200 --> 18:52.333 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% AG CANDIDATES AND THEY WILL NOT 18:52.333 --> 18:54.266 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% PICK A GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE. 18:54.266 --> 18:56.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THAT IS THAT OF THE PRIMARY BUT 18:56.000 --> 18:56.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% A LOT IS RIDING ON THIS 18:56.966 --> 18:59.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% CONVENTION. 18:59.833 --> 19:01.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:30% >> NO DOUBT. 19:01.166 --> 19:02.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% MANY PEOPLE SAY THIS IS A LITMUS 19:02.733 --> 19:05.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% TEST FOR SEEING HOW STRONG 19:05.033 --> 19:07.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT IS HERE IN 19:07.000 --> 19:08.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% MICHIGAN AND WE SAW THAT 19:08.433 --> 19:10.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CERTAINLY P A ? CAN SPEAK MORE 19:10.566 --> 19:12.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% ABOUT THE CONVENTION BUT LET'S 19:12.000 --> 19:13.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% REMEMBER THAT WHAT HAPPENS ON 19:13.966 --> 19:15.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THE 23RD IS NOT NECESSARILY 19:15.766 --> 19:17.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% GOING TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT 19:17.166 --> 19:18.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WILL HAPPEN TO THE PRIMARY IN 19:18.333 --> 19:20.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% AUGUST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT 19:20.300 --> 19:21.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ARE AT THE ZIP -- THESE THESE 19:21.666 --> 19:22.933 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% CONVENTIONS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 19:22.933 --> 19:28.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SUPER SUPER STRONG REPUBLICANS 19:28.333 --> 19:30.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% AND WHO WE SEE, AND PRIMARIES 19:30.366 --> 19:31.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% WILL ALWAYS BE STRONG 19:31.433 --> 19:32.766 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% REPUBLICANS OF COURSE THEY WILL 19:32.766 --> 19:33.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% BE THERE AS WELL BUT THERE WILL 19:33.800 --> 19:35.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BE THIRD-PARTY AND INDEPENDENT 19:35.466 --> 19:37.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% AND THOSE WHO ARE THIS WAY ON 19:37.233 --> 19:38.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% ONE ISSUE BUT COULD GO FOR A 19:38.466 --> 19:41.633 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DEMOCRAT AS WELL AND SO I THINK 19:41.633 --> 19:43.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE US 19:43.200 --> 19:44.766 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THE FULL ANSWER ON WHAT HAPPENS 19:44.766 --> 19:47.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% IN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER. 19:47.133 --> 19:50.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> DOES A TRUMP ENDORSEMENT MEAN 19:50.366 --> 19:52.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:55% A TICKET IN OR IS IT A 19:52.200 --> 19:53.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:25% LIABILITY? 19:53.933 --> 19:55.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND 19:55.633 --> 19:57.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SOME EXPERTS SAID THAT IT IS 19:57.466 --> 20:00.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% DECISIVE AND WHAT I AM HEARING 20:00.133 --> 20:01.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% FROM PEOPLE AND SEEING ON THE 20:01.466 --> 20:02.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% GROUND IS THAT IT MAY BE 20:02.700 --> 20:04.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% INFLUENTIAL BUT IT'S NOT 20:04.333 --> 20:05.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% DECISIVE AND THEN YOU LOOK AT 20:05.733 --> 20:07.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% OTHER STATES AND TRUMP IS HAVING 20:07.400 --> 20:09.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% A FEW LOSSES BEING WRAPPED UP 20:09.600 --> 20:11.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% RIGHT NOW AND IN MICHIGAN 20:11.033 --> 20:12.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SPECIFICALLY THE CHOICE BEFORE A 20:12.800 --> 20:14.966 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% LOT OF THE REPUBLICANS IS GOING 20:14.966 --> 20:16.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% WITH DONALD TRUMP WHO THEY 20:16.433 --> 20:18.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SUPPORT IT'S NOT ABOUT ANTI- 20:18.133 --> 20:20.066 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TRUMP OR PRO TRUMP BUT HOW MUCH 20:20.066 --> 20:21.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% DO THEY VALUE AND WHO DID THEY 20:21.666 --> 20:23.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THINK GIVES THEM THE BEST CHANCE 20:23.400 --> 20:25.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% THE GENERAL ELECTION. 20:25.200 --> 20:26.400 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THESE REPUBLICANS AT THE END OF 20:26.400 --> 20:28.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% THE DAY WANT TO WIN. 20:28.366 --> 20:30.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% THEY WANT TO BE NESSEL AND 20:30.166 --> 20:31.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% WITMER AND THEY'RE TRYING TO 20:31.933 --> 20:34.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% MAKE A CALCULATION, DO THEY 20:34.033 --> 20:35.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THINK TRUMP HAS THE RIGHT PATH 20:35.833 --> 20:37.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% OR GOING FOR THE SWING VOTERS IN 20:37.666 --> 20:39.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THE MIDDLE IS A BETTER PATH? 20:39.866 --> 20:42.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> YES AND AT WHAT POINT HAVE 20:42.100 --> 20:44.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% YOU ALMOST GONE TOO FAR ABOUT 20:44.033 --> 20:46.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% PUSHING OUT THE PARK? 20:46.200 --> 20:48.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% AND THERE ARE FOLKS LIKE JEFF 20:48.300 --> 20:51.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TIMBER WHO IS LIKE YOU SORT OF 20:51.066 --> 20:54.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% UNDERSTAND AND YOU GET. 20:54.066 --> 20:56.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% LIKE HE IS JUST LIKE YOU HAVE 20:56.466 --> 20:59.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% FOLKS CALL MIKE SHARKEY A RINO 20:59.833 --> 21:01.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% RIGHT NOW AND HE'S COMING OUT 21:01.633 --> 21:04.066 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ENDORSING TUTOR DIXON SAYING HE 21:04.066 --> 21:05.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% WILL GO AGAINST SOME OF THE 21:05.766 --> 21:07.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TRUMP ENDORSEMENTS FOR SITTING 21:07.833 --> 21:09.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW AND THE 21:09.233 --> 21:11.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE. 21:11.500 --> 21:13.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> BUT THERE MUST BE FRUSTRATION 21:13.200 --> 21:14.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE 21:14.433 --> 21:16.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% REPUBLICAN PARTY. 21:16.000 --> 21:17.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% SOME PEOPLE THINK IT IS 21:17.300 --> 21:19.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% ATROPHIED OVER THE YEARS BUT 21:19.266 --> 21:21.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% TERM LEONARD GOING TO DELEGATE 21:21.466 --> 21:23.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% SAYING LOOK IF WE ARE GOING TO 21:23.033 --> 21:25.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% MAKE DANA NESSEL THAN THIS GUY 21:25.366 --> 21:26.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% THAT YOU WANT TO PICK JUST 21:26.833 --> 21:28.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:47.5% CANNOT GET IT DONE. 21:28.666 --> 21:30.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> AND THE DATA SHOWS THAT THIS 21:30.466 --> 21:32.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% IS NOT MAGICAL THINKING. 21:32.433 --> 21:34.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% LOOK AT 2018 TOM LEONARD CAME 21:34.666 --> 21:36.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% WITHIN IN THREE. 21:36.700 --> 21:38.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% >> EXACTLY. 21:38.366 --> 21:39.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% THAT WAS THE CLOSEST. 21:39.700 --> 21:41.100 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TO THE CLOSEST SPREAD OF ALL OF 21:41.100 --> 21:45.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THOSE STATEWIDE CANDIDATES. 21:45.766 --> 21:47.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% THIS IS NOT THEORETICAL THINKING 21:47.233 --> 21:49.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% WE HAVE SEEN IS MAGICAL OF. 21:49.333 --> 21:52.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> MY POINT IS LOGIC WHEN IT 21:52.033 --> 21:53.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% COMES TO SOME TRUMP PEOPLE THE 21:53.733 --> 21:56.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% CRITICS SAY IS NONEXISTENT YOU 21:56.000 --> 21:57.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% CANNOT LOGICALLY REASON WITH 21:57.333 --> 21:58.633 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THEM ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND TAKE 21:58.633 --> 21:59.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% THIS TO WHERE IT GOES IN 21:59.600 --> 22:03.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% NOVEMBER. 22:03.266 --> 22:05.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> RESOLVE THIS BY GETTING RON 22:05.733 --> 22:08.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% WEISER AND MADDOCK ON THE SHOW 22:08.900 --> 22:11.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% AND GET THEM IN THESE CHAIRS AND 22:11.100 --> 22:12.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% DISCUSS IT WITH THEM. 22:12.733 --> 22:14.633 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% YOU WON'T COME ON THE SHOW WILL 22:14.633 --> 22:19.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% THEY? 22:19.233 --> 22:20.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> WE COULD LOWER THE NATIONAL 22:20.600 --> 22:26.200 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DEBT BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 22:26.200 --> 22:27.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY 22:27.766 --> 22:28.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT 22:28.900 --> 22:32.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% PUBLICLY. 22:32.066 --> 22:33.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:45% >> ITS DIRTY WASH. 22:33.400 --> 22:34.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> HOW DO YOU WIN IN NOVEMBER 22:34.633 --> 22:36.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:47.5% WITH A SPLIT PARTY? 22:36.066 --> 22:37.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> THE PEOPLE IN THE PARTY THAT 22:37.900 --> 22:40.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% ARE SUPPORTING THEM THEY DO HAVE 22:40.400 --> 22:41.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:47.5% A LOGICAL ARGUMENT. 22:41.766 --> 22:43.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THEY ARE MAKING AN ARGUMENT. 22:43.666 --> 22:46.300 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% TOM LEONARD LOST TO NESSEL WE 22:46.300 --> 22:48.033 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% HAVE SEEN THAT BUT THEY BELIEVE 22:48.033 --> 22:49.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THAT THEY NEED TO CHASE DOWN 22:49.433 --> 22:51.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN STRATEGY 22:51.133 --> 22:52.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% BECAUSE BASICALLY THE 22:52.433 --> 22:54.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ESTABLISHMENT DONORS ARE MOVING 22:54.000 --> 22:55.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% AWAY FROM THE PARTY AND THE 22:55.466 --> 22:56.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% PARTY CANNOT COUNT ON THOSE 22:56.700 --> 22:58.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% PEOPLE TO FIND THEM ANYMORE I 22:58.633 --> 23:00.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THINK THERE IS A DECISION THAT 23:00.100 --> 23:02.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% HAS BEEN MADE LIKE WE NEED THE 23:02.000 --> 23:03.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% GRASSROOT DONORS THAT DONALD 23:03.866 --> 23:05.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% TRUMP UNLOCKED YOU WON'T GET 23:05.433 --> 23:07.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% THOSE IF YOU GO THE USUAL WAY 23:07.666 --> 23:09.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THAT YOU PLAY THE ELECTIONS. 23:09.400 --> 23:10.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% IT IS AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT 23:10.833 --> 23:12.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% DECISION THAT THE PARTY IS 23:12.000 --> 23:13.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:25% CAUGHT IN. 23:13.200 --> 23:15.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% EITHER WAY THEY GO THERE WILL BE 23:15.033 --> 23:16.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% PROBLEMS. 23:16.400 --> 23:18.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> WILL WE HAVE A BREAK PARTY? 23:18.933 --> 23:20.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% >> I DON'T THINK SO. 23:20.366 --> 23:22.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% >> I DON'T THINK SO. 23:22.100 --> 23:23.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> THE DEMOCRATS IT DID HAVE A 23:23.733 --> 23:26.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% CONVENTION AND IT SHOWS WHERE 23:26.500 --> 23:28.000 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THEY ARE IN THE RUN DOWN IN THE 23:28.000 --> 23:29.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% STORY WE HAVE TWO MINUTES TO GO 23:29.900 --> 23:34.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% TO WHAT WE LEARN FROM THAT 23:34.433 --> 23:35.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% CONVENTION? 23:35.700 --> 23:36.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> THEN NEED ANOTHER CUP OF 23:36.700 --> 23:37.366 align:start position:10% line:10% size:17.5% COFFEE. 23:37.366 --> 23:38.400 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% >> THE THINGS WE HAVE KNOWN 23:38.400 --> 23:39.933 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% BEFORE WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE 23:39.933 --> 23:41.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% JOCELYN BENSON WILL BE THE 23:41.333 --> 23:43.333 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% SECRETARY OF STATE CANDIDATE, 23:43.333 --> 23:45.666 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% DANA NESSEL AS ATTORNEY GENERAL 23:45.666 --> 23:47.800 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% AND GRETCHEN WITMER AND GARLAND 23:47.800 --> 23:49.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% GILCHREST AS GOVERNOR AND 23:49.166 --> 23:50.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:50% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. 23:50.600 --> 23:52.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% WE DID HERE ARE SOME ISSUES 23:52.133 --> 23:53.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% OBVIOUSLY THAT THEY WILL BE 23:53.466 --> 23:55.300 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TALKING A LOT ABOUT COMING INTO 23:55.300 --> 23:57.133 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THE ELECTION ONE OF WHICH IS 23:57.133 --> 23:58.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% ABORTION RIGHTS. 23:58.666 --> 24:00.533 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% TWO WEEKS TO GO THREE WEEKS AGO 24:00.533 --> 24:03.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% WE SAW -- NOPE ONE WEEK. 24:03.600 --> 24:05.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% THERE IS NO TIME. 24:05.233 --> 24:06.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT AND SAID 24:06.733 --> 24:08.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% SHE'S USING HER AUTHORITY TO 24:08.266 --> 24:12.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% BRING ABORTION BACK TO THE 24:12.166 --> 24:12.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:25% FOREFRONT. 24:12.833 --> 24:14.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> I HAVE A POSTER THAT SAYS 24:14.233 --> 24:16.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:55% THIS DECIDES THE RACE. 24:16.000 --> 24:17.666 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> THAT'S RIGHT AND FOR YEARS 24:17.666 --> 24:20.766 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% AND YEARS IT'S THE ECONOMY AND 24:20.766 --> 24:23.633 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO TALK 24:23.633 --> 24:26.566 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND INFLATION 24:26.566 --> 24:27.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% AND THINGS THAT FOLKS ARE 24:27.900 --> 24:30.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% FEELING DAY IN AND DAY OUT EVERY 24:30.566 --> 24:32.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% TIME YOU DRIVE PASS A GAS 24:32.000 --> 24:34.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% STATION HOWEVER, ONCE THE 24:34.466 --> 24:37.066 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% SUPREME COURT RULES AND IT COULD 24:37.066 --> 24:40.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BE ANY WEEK NOW BUT THAT COULD 24:40.033 --> 24:43.200 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% REALLY CHANGE THIS AGAIN FOR 24:43.200 --> 24:45.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% TURN OUT AND FOR ENTHUSIASM 24:45.500 --> 24:47.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:42.5% WITHIN THE PARTY. 24:47.600 --> 24:49.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> ARE THE DEMOCRATS A GEEK TO 24:49.866 --> 24:51.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% DO THE ELECTION? 24:51.433 --> 24:53.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% >> I THINK THEY ARE ENTHUSED 24:53.033 --> 24:54.433 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% ABOUT THIS. 24:54.433 --> 24:55.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% WE HAVE TWO PARTIES THAT WILL 24:55.600 --> 24:57.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:52.5% TALK PASS EACH OTHER. 24:57.600 --> 24:58.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% DEMOCRATS WILL BE FOCUSED ON 24:58.800 --> 25:01.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ABORTION RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY 25:01.233 --> 25:02.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% BEING AT STAKE AND REPUBLICANS 25:02.700 --> 25:03.900 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% WILL COUNSELING TRY TO BRING IT 25:03.900 --> 25:05.233 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% BACK TO THE ECONOMY AND GOOD 25:05.233 --> 25:06.466 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% LUCK TO ALL OF US TO TRY TO GET 25:06.466 --> 25:08.033 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% ANY OF US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS 25:08.033 --> 25:10.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:60% STRAIGHT ON ANY OF THIS. 25:10.466 --> 25:12.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> DO WE EXPECT TO SEE JOE BIDEN 25:12.566 --> 25:13.600 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% HERE CAMPAIGNING WITH THE 25:13.600 --> 25:15.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:22.5% GOVERNOR? 25:15.100 --> 25:17.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% >> I THINK HE STARTED DOING THAT 25:17.733 --> 25:20.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:65% AND THEN YOU KNOW HIS POLL 25:20.966 --> 25:22.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:62.5% NUMBERS ARE NOT WHERE THE 25:22.866 --> 25:24.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% MAJORITY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE 25:24.533 --> 25:27.533 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% AND WE SAW IT DROP OFF LAST TIME 25:27.533 --> 25:29.466 align:start position:10% line:10% size:57.5% HE WAS HERE IN OCTOBER. 25:29.466 --> 25:31.066 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% >> SHE WAS NOT THERE SHE WAS IN 25:31.066 --> 25:32.700 align:start position:10% line:10% size:27.5% CALIFORNIA. 25:32.700 --> 25:33.966 align:start position:10% line:10% size:40% >> A GOOD POINT. 25:33.966 --> 25:36.166 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> MAYBE IT WAS A COINCIDENCE. 25:36.166 --> 25:38.833 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% >> AND STACY ABRAMS IN GEORGIA 25:38.833 --> 25:41.300 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:77.5% THERE IS A SCHEDULING CONFLICT. 25:41.300 --> 25:42.900 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% >> IT GOES BACK TO THAT ASSET 25:42.900 --> 25:44.266 align:start position:10% line:10% size:75% AND LIABILITY ISSUE THAT'S THE 25:44.266 --> 25:45.866 align:start position:10% line:10% size:72.5% BEAUTY OF THE STORY AND WE'LL 25:45.866 --> 25:47.100 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% SEE HOW THIS THING DEVELOPS 25:47.100 --> 25:48.566 align:start position:10% line:10% size:67.5% THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT. 25:48.566 --> 25:49.800 align:start position:10% line:10% size:70% HOW MUCH ARE CHARGING ME FOR 25:49.800 --> 25:51.000 align:start position:10% line:10% size:12.5% THIS? 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