WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% ♪ Music Playing ♪ 00:02.633 --> 00:03.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >>> Welcome back torque you are 00:03.833 --> 00:04.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% guest this week say former 00:04.966 --> 00:08.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% Democratic candidate for 00:08.300 --> 00:10.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% governor and a current candidate 00:10.400 --> 00:11.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% for the house. 00:11.300 --> 00:13.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Our lead story a bipartisan dill 00:13.733 --> 00:15.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% deal a budget deficit. 00:15.066 --> 00:16.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% A new deal needed on the next 00:16.366 --> 00:19.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% one, on the O.T.R. Pam. 00:19.300 --> 00:22.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% Jonathan, contact I and Zachary 00:22.833 --> 00:23.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% silt in with us as get the 00:23.966 --> 00:24.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% inside out "Off the Record." 00:24.966 --> 00:29.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Production of "Off the Record" 00:29.000 --> 00:30.933 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% is made possible in part by the 00:30.933 --> 00:31.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% following. 00:31.233 --> 00:32.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Business leaders for Michigan 00:32.433 --> 00:34.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% has a strategic plan for make 00:34.300 --> 00:36.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Michigan a top 10 state in the 00:36.233 --> 00:37.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% nation for jobs, personal income 00:37.333 --> 00:38.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% and a healthy economy. 00:38.533 --> 00:41.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Learn more at Michigan's road to 00:41.166 --> 00:43.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% top 10.com. 00:43.400 --> 00:44.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% And now this edition of "Off the 00:44.900 --> 00:49.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% Record" with Tim Skubick. 00:49.133 --> 00:49.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> Thank you very much. 00:49.966 --> 00:51.166 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% And thank you for working us in 00:51.166 --> 00:52.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% to your schedule, joining us 00:52.433 --> 00:53.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% here on "Off the Record" as we 00:53.833 --> 00:56.066 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% continue coverage of the budget 00:56.066 --> 00:57.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% deficit and they had a by tart 00:57.766 --> 01:01.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% an deal at ride by the house and 01:01.000 --> 01:02.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% senate what are the highlights 01:02.033 --> 01:03.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% and low rights as the case may 01:03.433 --> 01:04.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% be, Kathy. 01:04.466 --> 01:05.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> It's a big deal, because it's 01:05.766 --> 01:08.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% a big budget deficit. 01:08.033 --> 01:13.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% Over $3 million for this fiscal 01:13.400 --> 01:14.300 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% year and another $3 billion for 01:14.300 --> 01:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% the next fiscal year. 01:15.600 --> 01:20.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% One of the main things was 01:20.833 --> 01:23.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% 350 million from the rainy day 01:23.166 --> 01:27.800 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% fund and they also supplemented 01:27.800 --> 01:29.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% the budget with a bunch of money 01:29.833 --> 01:31.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% from federal government from the 01:31.833 --> 01:34.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Corona relieve act instead of 01:34.866 --> 01:37.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% cutting the budget, the State 01:37.000 --> 01:38.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% budget of the Michigan state 01:38.300 --> 01:40.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% police and the corrections 01:40.500 --> 01:41.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% department by backfilled it with 01:41.466 --> 01:42.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% the department of corrections so 01:42.566 --> 01:46.300 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% there was a lot of talk of whit 01:46.300 --> 01:47.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% her had been defunding the 01:47.833 --> 01:49.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% police, that wasn't the case she 01:49.333 --> 01:51.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% moved federal money in to that 01:51.700 --> 01:59.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% to back feel it. 01:59.166 --> 02:00.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% >> Zach. 02:00.266 --> 02:02.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> And, you know, kathy is a 02:02.000 --> 02:03.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% right, really the big thing here 02:03.800 --> 02:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% was the use of the federal 02:05.533 --> 02:06.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% money. 02:06.733 --> 02:07.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% You are talking about a 02:07.366 --> 02:11.266 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% $2.2 billion middle of the year 02:11.266 --> 02:15.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% deficit with only a few months 02:15.466 --> 02:16.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% left in the fiscal year. 02:16.566 --> 02:17.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% Most of the mon it's state 02:17.700 --> 02:18.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% spends is out the door. 02:18.900 --> 02:23.633 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% It was funny because for a long 02:23.633 --> 02:24.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% time the governor had been 02:24.966 --> 02:30.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% saying the federal government 02:30.000 --> 02:31.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% had to come through with more 02:31.300 --> 02:32.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% money for the States. 02:32.533 --> 02:33.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% She is still saying that, but 02:33.733 --> 02:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% was also saying at the time 02:35.666 --> 02:36.966 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% there wasn't flexibility in the 02:36.966 --> 02:39.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% first $3 billion of cares action 02:39.400 --> 02:41.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% or coronavirus relief funds that 02:41.833 --> 02:43.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% the federal government said for 02:43.433 --> 02:45.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% the states to use. 02:45.766 --> 02:48.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% I think the governor and the 02:48.033 --> 02:49.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% legislature decided to tell the 02:49.833 --> 02:50.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% government we are going to see 02:50.833 --> 02:52.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% how serious you are about it. 02:52.100 --> 02:53.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% I know may have said they 02:53.100 --> 02:54.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% believe this complies with all 02:54.433 --> 02:56.866 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% of the federal rules, but it is 02:56.866 --> 02:58.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% different from what was said for 02:58.166 --> 02:58.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% a while. 02:58.766 --> 03:01.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% And, you know, they were 03:01.000 --> 03:04.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% basically able to backfill all 03:04.300 --> 03:06.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% of the reduction -- not all of 03:06.633 --> 03:08.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% it it, a rouge portion of the 03:08.966 --> 03:10.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% reductions in state spending 03:10.366 --> 03:13.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% with the federal coronavirus 03:13.600 --> 03:13.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% money. 03:13.900 --> 03:15.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I think knowing that it the odds 03:15.633 --> 03:17.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% the federal government will come 03:17.966 --> 03:19.066 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% knocking on the door and say we 03:19.066 --> 03:21.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% would like, you know, that 03:21.333 --> 03:23.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% billion dollars back, please. 03:23.333 --> 03:24.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% Is extremely unlikely, 03:24.666 --> 03:25.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% particularly in an election 03:25.900 --> 03:26.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% year. 03:26.300 --> 03:28.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Particularly in an election year 03:28.300 --> 03:30.733 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% where Michigan is so important. 03:30.733 --> 03:32.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% The other piece that really sad 03:32.433 --> 03:37.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% out was how they handle the 03:37.700 --> 03:39.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% additional money to schools. 03:39.200 --> 03:40.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% Schools lost, I think, 03:40.200 --> 03:43.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% $256 million in state spending 03:43.766 --> 03:47.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% but are getting 512 million, if 03:47.100 --> 03:49.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% my math is right, Hopefully have 03:49.100 --> 03:51.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% it is, in federal cares act 03:51.133 --> 03:51.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% spending. 03:51.533 --> 03:52.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% So they are actually going to 03:52.466 --> 03:54.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% get more out of this for the 03:54.233 --> 03:55.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% reminder of the fiscal year, 03:55.866 --> 03:59.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% $350 per pupil. 03:59.366 --> 04:01.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> Yeah, I think the State, the 04:01.400 --> 04:02.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% whitmer administration and now 04:02.733 --> 04:04.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% this deal in concert with the 04:04.133 --> 04:05.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% legislature has been pretty 04:05.666 --> 04:07.766 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% crafty about how may have taken 04:07.766 --> 04:10.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% advantage of federal dollars 04:10.100 --> 04:12.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% that were available. 04:12.233 --> 04:14.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Of course may have not only used 04:14.733 --> 04:16.766 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% the cares act money to backfill 04:16.766 --> 04:19.500 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% and sort of in a strategic way, 04:19.500 --> 04:20.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Zach, you are right it, could be 04:20.700 --> 04:22.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% a test case but they are sending 04:22.533 --> 04:25.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% most of the moneys to police, to 04:25.066 --> 04:27.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% corrections, and to schools, 04:27.400 --> 04:29.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% which do have more costs 04:29.233 --> 04:31.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% associated with the pandemic 04:31.233 --> 04:32.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% than other areas of state 04:32.666 --> 04:32.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% government. 04:32.966 --> 04:34.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% So I think they can make a 04:34.600 --> 04:37.000 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% legitimate claim, anyways, that 04:37.000 --> 04:39.333 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% they are using in this money in 04:39.333 --> 04:41.866 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% coronavirus-related activities. 04:41.866 --> 04:43.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% Not simply to make found a 04:43.166 --> 04:44.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% budget deficit. 04:44.400 --> 04:45.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% At the same time, the State has, 04:45.500 --> 04:47.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% and this has been more 04:47.033 --> 04:48.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% controversial, may have avoided 04:48.833 --> 04:50.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% huge lay offs in state 04:50.566 --> 04:52.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% government by essentially 04:52.233 --> 04:54.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% furloughing state employees one 04:54.033 --> 04:54.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% day a week. 04:54.966 --> 04:56.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% And making them eligible then 04:56.966 --> 04:59.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% for the 600-dollar a week in 04:59.400 --> 05:00.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% pandemic unemployment 05:00.400 --> 05:01.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% assistance. 05:01.766 --> 05:03.966 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% So the State has, again, sought 05:03.966 --> 05:06.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% of tapped in to what federal 05:06.100 --> 05:08.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% resources there are available to 05:08.533 --> 05:09.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% weather this storm right now. 05:09.933 --> 05:14.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Tim, I don't want to get ahead 05:14.266 --> 05:15.800 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% of you because this is probably 05:15.800 --> 05:16.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% your next question, of course 05:16.900 --> 05:18.733 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% the big issue now is next year. 05:18.733 --> 05:21.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% The State has pretty muched used 05:21.066 --> 05:22.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% up all of the 3 billion in cares 05:22.866 --> 05:24.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% act funding got. 05:24.700 --> 05:27.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% It's tapped the rainy day fund 05:27.533 --> 05:29.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% there is still about 850 million 05:29.633 --> 05:30.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% left in there. 05:30.033 --> 05:34.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% But the State is looking another 05:34.200 --> 05:35.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% another $3 billion deficit and 05:35.833 --> 05:38.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% has to balance its budget by 05:38.066 --> 05:38.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% October 1. 05:38.666 --> 05:41.300 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% So if there is not more federal 05:41.300 --> 05:45.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% money coming from congress it 05:45.433 --> 05:47.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% sound like in the senate GOP 05:47.033 --> 05:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% plan that they are working on 05:48.266 --> 05:49.366 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% doesn't include initially money 05:49.366 --> 05:51.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% for states, at least direct 05:51.200 --> 05:53.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% assistance for states and local 05:53.100 --> 05:54.233 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% governments this thing is going 05:54.233 --> 05:56.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% to get a lot worse come 05:56.433 --> 05:58.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% October 1. 05:58.466 --> 05:59.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Yeah, I want to get in to the 05:59.666 --> 06:00.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% October 1 thing. 06:00.300 --> 06:04.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% But to put a ribbon on this 06:04.633 --> 06:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% thing, any tomb you come up with 06:05.533 --> 06:07.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% a bipartisan agreement, 06:07.166 --> 06:08.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% particularly in the current 06:08.300 --> 06:11.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% climate where the governor and 06:11.233 --> 06:13.133 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% the senate Republican leader or 06:13.133 --> 06:14.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% not getting a long so well now I 06:14.866 --> 06:18.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% am picking up vibrations the 06:18.200 --> 06:20.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% speaker is upset with the 06:20.233 --> 06:23.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Republican leader so to rise 06:23.266 --> 06:24.666 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% above that and get an agreement 06:24.666 --> 06:25.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% is good news. 06:25.366 --> 06:28.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% It's easy to do an agreement 06:28.000 --> 06:29.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% with somebody else's money, they 06:29.433 --> 06:30.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% didn't have to raise taxes. 06:30.633 --> 06:31.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% The administration going in to 06:31.966 --> 06:33.466 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% this thing was very antsy about 06:33.466 --> 06:34.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% the Republicans coming after 06:34.600 --> 06:36.000 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% this budget and taking a chance 06:36.000 --> 06:37.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% to reduce the size of the 06:37.933 --> 06:39.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% bureaucracy and lay off some 06:39.333 --> 06:40.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% people and say, boy, we are 06:40.866 --> 06:42.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% really cutting state services. 06:42.100 --> 06:47.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% No one in TV land will feel 06:47.066 --> 06:48.866 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% these cuts at all S that a fair 06:48.866 --> 06:50.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% statement Kathy? 06:50.200 --> 06:51.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Yeah, I don't think that 06:51.633 --> 06:53.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% there is going to be a whole lot 06:53.066 --> 06:59.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% of angst about this particular 06:59.100 --> 06:59.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% budget. 06:59.400 --> 07:02.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% They were able to do that. 07:02.433 --> 07:03.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% But you are right, on 07:03.833 --> 07:04.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% October 1st, that's going to 07:04.866 --> 07:06.766 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% be -- $3 billion is a tough nut 07:06.766 --> 07:08.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% to crack. 07:08.100 --> 07:09.900 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% And they don't have a whole lot 07:09.900 --> 07:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% of avenues to explore to get rid 07:15.600 --> 07:16.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% of that without making some 07:16.733 --> 07:21.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% pretty drastic cuts. 07:21.133 --> 07:22.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> Yeah, I -- 07:22.866 --> 07:24.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Probably solved the next 07:24.366 --> 07:25.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% one -- go ahead. 07:25.800 --> 07:27.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Yeah, well, I wish I knew the 07:27.333 --> 07:28.633 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:75% answer to that. I really think 07:28.633 --> 07:30.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% the key question is what does 07:30.866 --> 07:34.900 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% congress do, with all the house 07:34.900 --> 07:40.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% Democrats in the house passed a 07:40.433 --> 07:43.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% $3 trillion that had a large sum 07:43.566 --> 07:45.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% of money to help states and 07:45.900 --> 07:46.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% local governments with their 07:46.800 --> 07:47.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% budgets. 07:47.233 --> 07:49.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% The senate Republicans and the 07:49.666 --> 07:50.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% president turned up their nose 07:50.900 --> 07:51.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% at that. 07:51.500 --> 07:52.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% This was a while ago. 07:52.233 --> 07:55.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% And now the sort of the 07:55.866 --> 07:56.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% president and the senate 07:56.700 --> 07:58.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Republicans can't seem to get on 07:58.200 --> 07:59.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% the same payment. 07:59.733 --> 08:01.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% But to the extent that they 08:01.233 --> 08:02.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% might be, there is a talk of a 08:02.966 --> 08:04.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% 1 trillion package that does 08:04.900 --> 08:07.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% have money to help the schools 08:07.100 --> 08:08.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% reopen. 08:08.200 --> 08:12.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% But not for states generally. 08:12.133 --> 08:14.666 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% So right now it seems like -- I 08:14.666 --> 08:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% guess if you are the house 08:15.600 --> 08:17.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Democrats and you are speaker 08:17.500 --> 08:19.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Pelosi, you just sit back and 08:19.933 --> 08:21.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% let the Republicans negotiate 08:21.800 --> 08:23.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% against themselves. 08:23.100 --> 08:24.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% The political environment is 08:24.833 --> 08:26.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% really favoring the Democrats 08:26.633 --> 08:27.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% right now. 08:27.733 --> 08:29.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% The Republicans we want from 08:29.566 --> 08:31.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% saying, well, maybe we'll do 08:31.400 --> 08:33.000 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% another stimulus package to now 08:33.000 --> 08:34.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% they are up to a trillion and 08:34.433 --> 08:36.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% probably if you are speaker 08:36.833 --> 08:39.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Pelosi you just sit back and let 08:39.666 --> 08:41.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% them twist and come up more. 08:41.000 --> 08:42.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Now, is that said, it's -- there 08:42.933 --> 08:44.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% is some aid to the states here 08:44.733 --> 08:46.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% that will make the task lot 08:46.866 --> 08:48.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% easier. 08:48.066 --> 08:51.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% If there isn't, and heavens 08:51.433 --> 08:54.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% knows congress has a knack for 08:54.100 --> 08:56.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% screwing it up and not coming 08:56.733 --> 08:58.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% together on something. 08:58.133 --> 08:59.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% It's a pile of trouble. 08:59.266 --> 09:04.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% You know, 3 trillion as Kathy 09:04.200 --> 09:07.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% said, it is a massive number for 09:07.433 --> 09:10.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% one fiscal year to resolve. 09:10.666 --> 09:13.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% It would -- pulled pretty much 09:13.500 --> 09:17.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% have to have some combination of 09:17.133 --> 09:19.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% a either, you know, massive 09:19.966 --> 09:21.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% amount of cuts, a massive tax 09:21.966 --> 09:23.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% increase. 09:23.700 --> 09:25.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Huge -- some kind of -- there is 09:25.400 --> 09:30.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% always a accounting gag you turn 09:30.066 --> 09:31.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% to, maybe they try one of those. 09:31.900 --> 09:33.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% About you it will take something 09:33.033 --> 09:34.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% extremely dramatic. 09:34.333 --> 09:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Remember, the entire general 09:35.666 --> 09:36.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% funds of the state is only, 09:36.866 --> 09:38.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% quote, unquote, only, about 09:38.600 --> 09:39.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% $10 billion. 09:39.100 --> 09:44.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% That's what you have to target 09:44.533 --> 09:46.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% to take 30% of the budget oat at 09:46.966 --> 09:49.366 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% one fell swoop would be brutal. 09:49.366 --> 09:50.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Let's keep in mind this final 09:50.700 --> 09:51.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% decision on resolve that go 09:51.933 --> 09:53.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% $3 billion figure will come 09:53.266 --> 09:54.866 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% right on the eve of an election 09:54.866 --> 09:56.600 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% and so everybody is going to be 09:56.600 --> 09:58.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% very concerned as to how they do 09:58.733 --> 10:00.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% on this. 10:00.233 --> 10:01.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% On one hand if you it out the 10:01.300 --> 10:03.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% State police and roll back 10:03.300 --> 10:04.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% prisons and stuff like that. 10:04.333 --> 10:05.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% That's bad politically. 10:05.433 --> 10:06.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% But on the other hand, if you 10:06.133 --> 10:07.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% are talking about a revenue 10:07.366 --> 10:09.166 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% increase everybody goes bonkers 10:09.166 --> 10:10.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% over that as well. 10:10.300 --> 10:11.500 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% This is going to be a real test 10:11.500 --> 10:13.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% of the leadership of these 10:13.200 --> 10:13.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% leaders. 10:13.833 --> 10:15.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% The two Republican leaders and 10:15.033 --> 10:16.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% this governor as to whether they 10:16.466 --> 10:18.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% can navigate that in a way that, 10:18.866 --> 10:20.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% yes, there will be disagreements 10:20.300 --> 10:21.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% but at the end of the day may 10:21.800 --> 10:23.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% have to find a bottom line, I'll 10:23.433 --> 10:24.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% tell you what, the federal 10:24.533 --> 10:25.966 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% government is not going to send 10:25.966 --> 10:27.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% them $3 billion. 10:27.466 --> 10:28.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% They are going to get some 10:28.600 --> 10:30.300 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% money, but it won't fill in the 10:30.300 --> 10:31.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% entire hole. 10:31.333 --> 10:32.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Isn't that a fair statement, 10:32.433 --> 10:34.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% Jonathan? 10:34.100 --> 10:35.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> You are probably right. 10:35.200 --> 10:36.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I mean, from what we are hearing 10:36.833 --> 10:39.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% out of senate Republicans right 10:39.033 --> 10:42.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% now, you know, they are starting 10:42.666 --> 10:45.700 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% at $0 for state government, for 10:45.700 --> 10:46.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% state governments. 10:46.500 --> 10:51.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% The bigger issue, let's pull 10:51.366 --> 10:52.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% back a second state government 10:52.500 --> 10:54.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% financing obviously a huge deal, 10:54.233 --> 10:55.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% but there is also a lot of other 10:55.666 --> 10:57.366 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% issues tied up in this congress 10:57.366 --> 10:58.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% the package, most importantly 10:58.666 --> 11:03.633 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% unemployment assistance for the 11:03.633 --> 11:04.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% many, many people who remain 11:04.933 --> 11:07.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% jobless during the pandemic. 11:07.366 --> 11:09.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% That 600-dollar a week pandemic 11:09.100 --> 11:11.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% unemployment assistance that I 11:11.133 --> 11:13.666 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% mentioned expires at the end of 11:13.666 --> 11:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% this week, you know, starting 11:15.600 --> 11:16.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% next week people who certificate 11:16.900 --> 11:18.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% for unemployment benefits won't 11:18.400 --> 11:19.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% be able to watch for that. It's 11:19.833 --> 11:22.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% going to be a big, big deal. 11:22.066 --> 11:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% There is talk congress might 11:23.666 --> 11:25.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% trying to do some sort of 11:25.200 --> 11:27.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% stopgap measure on that front, 11:27.100 --> 11:30.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% but that will be the driving 11:30.133 --> 11:32.166 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% force behind get something sort 11:32.166 --> 11:33.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% of deal done, not necessarily 11:33.666 --> 11:37.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% state finances at this point. 11:37.500 --> 11:38.533 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> Let's turn the page and talk 11:38.533 --> 11:39.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% about covid. 11:39.533 --> 11:40.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% We have not heard anything from 11:40.433 --> 11:41.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% the governor this week. 11:41.500 --> 11:43.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% Well, we are not told -- my 11:43.200 --> 11:44.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% guess is she's taking time off 11:44.733 --> 11:46.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% if I am wrong I am sure she'll 11:46.933 --> 11:48.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% call me and tell me that I was 11:48.866 --> 11:50.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% and I would appreciate the call. 11:50.200 --> 11:51.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% Let's assume, Kathy. 11:51.500 --> 11:52.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% With another 700 cases on one 11:52.866 --> 11:56.600 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% day, are we getting closer to a 11:56.600 --> 11:57.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% phase three roll back? 11:57.900 --> 12:01.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% What's your get tell you until. 12:01.033 --> 12:02.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I think the magic number is a 12:02.666 --> 12:04.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% thousand. 12:04.066 --> 12:06.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% And if we get up to a thousand 12:06.800 --> 12:11.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% and maybe even 800 or 900 I 12:11.433 --> 12:14.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% think that we'll see that indoor 12:14.366 --> 12:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% dining will end again. 12:15.600 --> 12:19.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% There are many things that she 12:19.733 --> 12:24.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% can do I don't know about if 12:24.100 --> 12:25.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% northern Michigan and the upper 12:25.100 --> 12:27.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% peninsula, those numbers haven't 12:27.233 --> 12:28.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% gone up too much. 12:28.533 --> 12:30.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Northern Michigan may have in 12:30.466 --> 12:32.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% spots. 12:32.066 --> 12:33.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% There are just these little 12:33.266 --> 12:36.000 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% pockets that keep happening and 12:36.000 --> 12:37.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% until order to -- in order to 12:37.633 --> 12:41.466 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% get rid of -- to get tamp those 12:41.466 --> 12:43.600 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% down, they are going to have to 12:43.600 --> 12:45.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% do some -- some things about 12:45.700 --> 12:47.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% gatherings and it's the indoor 12:47.833 --> 12:50.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% dining that type of thing that I 12:50.000 --> 12:53.666 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% think if we see anything that's 12:53.666 --> 12:54.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% what we will see. 12:54.866 --> 12:56.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Zach, what does your gut tell 12:56.266 --> 12:57.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% you? 12:57.300 --> 12:59.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> You know, it's -- because the 12:59.833 --> 13:02.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% governor has been stridently 13:02.533 --> 13:05.966 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% resistent to putting numbers or 13:05.966 --> 13:09.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% metrics on what creates that 13:09.000 --> 13:10.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% Remember holes for certain 13:10.000 --> 13:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% actions, I really don't know 13:13.033 --> 13:14.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% what -- it seems like there is 13:14.866 --> 13:16.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% sort of an amalgamation of 13:16.866 --> 13:20.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% numbers and sense of the 13:20.200 --> 13:21.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% situation and advice that goes 13:21.666 --> 13:25.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% in to what she decides to do. 13:25.700 --> 13:29.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% I think -- a thousand cases, 13:29.633 --> 13:29.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% yes. 13:29.933 --> 13:31.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% I think, though, there have 13:31.566 --> 13:33.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% would to be starting to be a bit 13:33.266 --> 13:36.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% of a crew from the hospitals 13:36.200 --> 13:39.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% that they are starting to see 13:39.233 --> 13:42.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% capacity diminish. 13:42.033 --> 13:43.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% You know, I think if the 13:43.766 --> 13:45.700 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% governor were to move the State 13:45.700 --> 13:49.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% back to phase three or, you 13:49.600 --> 13:51.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% know, where people can't gee to 13:51.033 --> 13:53.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% the office again and indoor 13:53.700 --> 13:56.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% dining is shutdown, and it would 13:56.166 --> 13:59.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% mean definitively no in person 13:59.966 --> 14:01.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% schooling and a whole host of 14:01.900 --> 14:04.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% other restrictions, I think it 14:04.333 --> 14:06.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% will be easier to make the case 14:06.033 --> 14:09.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% for that if the hospitals are 14:09.866 --> 14:13.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% showing capacity concerns in the 14:13.400 --> 14:14.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% parts of the State where she 14:14.533 --> 14:15.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% feels she needs to do that. 14:15.833 --> 14:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% If it's just more cases but 14:17.466 --> 14:19.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% these tend to be the 14:19.066 --> 14:21.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% asymptomatic folks and the 14:21.700 --> 14:23.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% hospital capacity seems to be 14:23.733 --> 14:25.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% not a problem, that will be more 14:25.933 --> 14:27.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% challenging because that, of 14:27.066 --> 14:28.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% course, is the big reason for 14:28.100 --> 14:29.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% the shutdown in the beginning, 14:29.700 --> 14:31.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% was the concern about 14:31.533 --> 14:33.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% overrunning the hospitals, the 14:33.366 --> 14:35.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% need to flatten the curve. 14:35.366 --> 14:37.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% And so forth. 14:37.300 --> 14:40.733 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% You know, the governor, she has 14:40.733 --> 14:42.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% her phase plan, but she's 14:42.233 --> 14:44.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% deviated from that constantly 14:44.166 --> 14:46.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% to, you know, suit whatever she 14:46.400 --> 14:48.500 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% feels is needed at that moment. 14:48.500 --> 14:51.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% She's clearly resistent, 14:51.133 --> 14:52.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% understandably, to rolling it 14:52.366 --> 14:52.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% back. 14:52.966 --> 14:54.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% So I think it's probably going 14:54.200 --> 14:56.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% to have to get a fair amount 14:56.133 --> 14:57.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% worse than we are seeing right 14:57.333 --> 14:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% now. 14:57.833 --> 14:58.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> All right. 14:58.233 --> 15:00.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% Let's call in our guest right 15:00.466 --> 15:00.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% now. 15:00.766 --> 15:01.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% Somebody's name you know 15:01.933 --> 15:03.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% thousand pronounce now after 15:03.233 --> 15:06.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% that bundle of money that he's 15:06.266 --> 15:07.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% getting. 15:07.066 --> 15:08.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% Are you there, my friend? 15:08.266 --> 15:10.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I am here, Tim, good morning, 15:10.500 --> 15:11.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% how are you? 15:11.200 --> 15:11.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% >> Good. 15:11.733 --> 15:12.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% We are doing well. 15:12.533 --> 15:14.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% Have you missed us, sir? 15:14.866 --> 15:16.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> Oh, absolutely. 15:16.166 --> 15:18.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% I missed you. 15:18.800 --> 15:20.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% When I first came on your show I 15:20.600 --> 15:24.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% was -- people warned me Tim is a 15:24.866 --> 15:26.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% veteran, all of them are 15:26.466 --> 15:28.200 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% veterans and I was a chemist, I 15:28.200 --> 15:30.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% was new to the political scene. 15:30.400 --> 15:36.700 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% And examine I came on your show 15:36.700 --> 15:38.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% against the advice against some 15:38.100 --> 15:39.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% of my well wishers. 15:39.533 --> 15:42.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Goodness, gracious, obviously 15:42.066 --> 15:43.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% you shot those people because 15:43.266 --> 15:44.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% here you are, this morning. 15:44.900 --> 15:45.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> Gentlemen. 15:45.300 --> 15:47.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> Jonathan start us off, okay. 15:47.100 --> 15:47.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% Jonathan. 15:47.900 --> 15:48.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% >> Yeah. 15:48.133 --> 15:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% You ran a state campaign in 15:54.166 --> 15:55.800 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% 2018, you are now running for a 15:55.800 --> 15:57.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% state house seat in Detroit. 15:57.000 --> 15:57.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% What did you learn from your 15:57.933 --> 15:59.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% 2018 race and how are you 15:59.866 --> 16:02.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% applying those lessons to your 16:02.166 --> 16:05.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% state house race? 16:05.400 --> 16:06.700 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> Well, you know, I travel all 16:06.700 --> 16:11.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% across Michigan, had a chance to 16:11.000 --> 16:12.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% speak with a lot of my 16:12.900 --> 16:18.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% constituents learn about the 16:18.233 --> 16:19.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% issues and learn about the 16:19.266 --> 16:19.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% process. 16:19.566 --> 16:26.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I am a small business owner, 25, 16:26.133 --> 16:27.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% 30 years being a serial 16:27.333 --> 16:29.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% entrepreneur, running my own 16:29.666 --> 16:32.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% company as a CEO is different 16:32.300 --> 16:33.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% than from being in a political 16:33.600 --> 16:38.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% environment, but I like the 16:38.233 --> 16:39.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% experience, it was exciting. 16:39.533 --> 16:40.266 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% It was something that I learn a 16:40.266 --> 16:40.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% lot. 16:40.566 --> 16:47.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% And I realize that I have a 16:47.766 --> 16:48.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% passion for it. 16:48.366 --> 16:50.166 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% More than just doing God for my 16:50.166 --> 16:51.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% familiar family, it's a chance 16:51.933 --> 16:53.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% for to make an impact on the 16:53.033 --> 16:56.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% entire state and now under the 16:56.400 --> 16:57.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% current situation you know, make 16:57.900 --> 17:01.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% a statement make an impact on my 17:01.833 --> 17:04.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% district. 17:04.366 --> 17:05.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Shri, you've got eight -- I 17:05.900 --> 17:07.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% think it's eight candidates in 17:07.200 --> 17:07.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% your race. 17:07.700 --> 17:12.733 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% And in this pandemic, it's hard 17:12.733 --> 17:13.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% to breakthrough. 17:13.366 --> 17:15.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% What types of things are you 17:15.233 --> 17:16.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% doing to try to connect with 17:16.333 --> 17:19.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% voters who maybe didn't know you 17:19.566 --> 17:21.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% that well even though you ran 17:21.466 --> 17:25.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% for governor? 17:25.633 --> 17:28.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> Well, we use a lot of 17:28.233 --> 17:30.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% mailings, we sent about eight or 17:30.166 --> 17:31.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% 10 different mailers. 17:31.266 --> 17:34.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% We also use this opportunity to 17:34.400 --> 17:36.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% talk about covid. 17:36.233 --> 17:38.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% So several of our mailers had 17:38.733 --> 17:42.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% nothing do with politics, but we 17:42.066 --> 17:43.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% were evening indicating people 17:43.300 --> 17:46.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% about covid. 17:46.333 --> 17:48.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% We also have some door knockers, 17:48.566 --> 17:55.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% we went and hang material on 17:55.266 --> 17:57.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% people's door informing them 17:57.200 --> 17:58.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% about covid. 17:58.200 --> 17:59.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% Because as you know, Kathy, 17:59.733 --> 18:01.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% covid disproportionately 18:01.133 --> 18:02.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% impacted the African American 18:02.666 --> 18:04.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% community, disproportionately 18:04.900 --> 18:06.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% affected the resident of 18:06.500 --> 18:07.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% Detroit. 18:07.633 --> 18:11.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% And we took upon ourselves to 18:11.066 --> 18:13.166 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% educate and some of our mailers 18:13.166 --> 18:15.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% as big as 20,000, that we mailed 18:15.400 --> 18:19.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% out across our district 18:19.333 --> 18:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% educating people and we did that 18:21.266 --> 18:22.933 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% through phones and some to some 18:22.933 --> 18:27.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% extent by door knocking. 18:27.566 --> 18:29.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Shri, do you find that people 18:29.066 --> 18:31.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% remember you from the governor's 18:31.100 --> 18:31.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% race? 18:31.600 --> 18:33.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% You made the decision to move to 18:33.933 --> 18:37.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Detroit, and run there where you 18:37.866 --> 18:38.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% did win the city and the 18:38.966 --> 18:44.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Democratic primarily in 2018,, 18:44.733 --> 18:46.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% down find they were remembering 18:46.433 --> 18:47.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% you? 18:47.166 --> 18:48.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Do you think your success in 18:48.466 --> 18:51.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Detroit in the gubernatorial 18:51.600 --> 18:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% race translates for a state 18:54.166 --> 18:56.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% which tense to be a shoe 18:56.100 --> 18:57.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% leather, up close and personal 18:57.333 --> 18:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% affair? 18:57.833 --> 18:59.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> That remains to be seen. 18:59.666 --> 19:01.066 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% We'll know that on the night of 19:01.066 --> 19:06.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% the 4th, August 4th, lex is 19:06.333 --> 19:08.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% coming up in less than two 19:08.133 --> 19:08.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% weeks. 19:08.333 --> 19:12.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I started my campaign in October 19:12.500 --> 19:14.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% of last year. 19:14.400 --> 19:16.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Much before row covid and what 19:16.733 --> 19:18.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% that allowed me do was to go 19:18.466 --> 19:19.866 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% visit people, talk with people, 19:19.866 --> 19:22.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% we had small gatherings. 19:22.400 --> 19:24.500 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% Lots of conversation, and, yes, 19:24.500 --> 19:26.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% people remember me. 19:26.333 --> 19:30.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% People remembered me from the 19:30.100 --> 19:32.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% gubernatorial campaign and often 19:32.033 --> 19:34.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% tell me that I voted for you. 19:34.233 --> 19:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I wanted you to be the governor. 19:35.666 --> 19:38.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% And I am voting for you again. 19:38.400 --> 19:41.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% 37,000 people voted for me, you 19:41.833 --> 19:44.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% know, I edged out by a few 19:44.433 --> 19:48.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% thousand over Gretchen whitner 19:48.800 --> 19:51.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% in that Democratic primary in 19:51.100 --> 19:53.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% 2018 for the governor's race. 19:53.666 --> 19:55.200 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> Dr. Shri, the president says 19:55.200 --> 19:56.800 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% he's sending some federal folks 19:56.800 --> 19:59.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% in to help fight violent crime 19:59.233 --> 19:59.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% in Detroit. 19:59.933 --> 20:01.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Are you comfortable with that, 20:01.366 --> 20:05.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% sir? 20:05.200 --> 20:08.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I do not like this is not the 20:08.766 --> 20:10.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% time. 20:10.400 --> 20:11.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% Nor do we need this helpful we 20:11.933 --> 20:15.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% need to, you know, hands that 20:15.166 --> 20:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% would locally and we are quite 20:17.466 --> 20:18.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% capable of handle that go 20:18.800 --> 20:19.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% locally. 20:19.200 --> 20:23.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I think I am -- I am comfortable 20:23.333 --> 20:23.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% with. 20:23.633 --> 20:24.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% We need to deal with the crime 20:24.733 --> 20:26.366 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% issue, we need to deal with the 20:26.366 --> 20:28.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% local issues, but we have an 20:28.900 --> 20:31.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% infrastructure locally that is 20:31.533 --> 20:35.100 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% quite capable of handling that. 20:35.100 --> 20:38.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% [Speaking at the same time] 20:38.033 --> 20:40.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% >> Go ahead, jonathan. 20:40.333 --> 20:41.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> I was going to say the 20:41.766 --> 20:43.466 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% million dollars question, Shri, 20:43.466 --> 20:45.000 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% you spent more than $10 million 20:45.000 --> 20:47.633 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% on your gubernatorial campaign. 20:47.633 --> 20:48.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% How much are you spend on the 20:48.333 --> 20:49.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ground your state house race? 20:49.633 --> 20:53.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% We know some of the most 20:53.733 --> 20:56.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% expensive state house races Pete 20:56.133 --> 20:57.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% in 2014 spent upwards of 20:57.566 --> 21:01.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% $330,000 on his race, how much 21:01.000 --> 21:03.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% do you expect to spend? 21:03.233 --> 21:04.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Not quite as much as what I 21:04.633 --> 21:05.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% spent in the governor's race, 21:05.866 --> 21:07.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% but it will be a few hundred 21:07.666 --> 21:11.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% thousand dollars, yes. 21:11.033 --> 21:12.333 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% >> And a lot of that went in to 21:12.333 --> 21:16.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% the covid education. 21:16.200 --> 21:18.600 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% We bought a lot of masks and we 21:18.600 --> 21:21.033 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% bought a lot of hand sanitizers 21:21.033 --> 21:23.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% and made it a point to go 21:23.166 --> 21:25.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% deliver that to 10,000 21:25.800 --> 21:27.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% households. 21:27.400 --> 21:30.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% We had food, we had fruits that 21:30.433 --> 21:31.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% we distributed. 21:31.533 --> 21:37.433 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% So a lot of my expenditure this 21:37.433 --> 21:40.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% time was not the traditional 21:40.066 --> 21:43.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% political campaign expense but 21:43.033 --> 21:45.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% it was more educating people 21:45.333 --> 21:47.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% about covid helping them with 21:47.866 --> 21:49.500 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% supplies, that's really what we 21:49.500 --> 21:56.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% did. 21:56.700 --> 21:57.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> There is still a feeling in 21:57.500 --> 21:58.800 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% Democratic circles that you are 21:58.800 --> 22:00.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% not a legitimate Democrat. 22:00.233 --> 22:04.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% You remember during the governor 22:04.066 --> 22:06.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% race I think it was the gross 22:06.166 --> 22:08.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% point Democratic club gave you 22:08.000 --> 22:10.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% an anti endorsement. 22:10.533 --> 22:12.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Told them people not to vote for 22:12.566 --> 22:12.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% you. 22:12.733 --> 22:19.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% What do you say to that, what 22:19.433 --> 22:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% are your Democratic bona fide 22:21.266 --> 22:21.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% are identifieds. 22:21.966 --> 22:23.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% Would you be an ally of the 22:23.166 --> 22:25.200 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% governor's if you were elected. 22:25.200 --> 22:27.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% Would you organize in a 22:27.800 --> 22:28.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% different way. 22:28.333 --> 22:29.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% Would you be annual why of 22:29.833 --> 22:31.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% organized labor. 22:31.266 --> 22:32.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% >> Absolutely. 22:32.066 --> 22:32.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% Absolutely. 22:32.766 --> 22:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% I think people forget the 22:34.500 --> 22:37.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% background where I came from. 22:37.700 --> 22:39.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% You know, I grew up in poverty 22:39.333 --> 22:39.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% it. 22:39.566 --> 22:41.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% I grew up four sisters, a 22:41.966 --> 22:43.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% brother and my mom and dad, 22:43.666 --> 22:45.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% eight of us lived in a 900 22:45.800 --> 22:49.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% square feet home that had a roof 22:49.166 --> 22:51.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% that leaked all the time when it 22:51.000 --> 22:52.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% rained. 22:52.933 --> 22:54.566 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% And I had to mop up the floors. 22:54.566 --> 22:56.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% We slept on the floor, we ate on 22:56.966 --> 22:59.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% the floor. 22:59.300 --> 23:01.833 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% The bathroom was 50 feet behind 23:01.833 --> 23:03.266 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% the house, there was no running 23:03.266 --> 23:04.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% water. 23:04.233 --> 23:04.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% That's how I grew up. 23:04.966 --> 23:10.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% People look at my wealth and 23:10.833 --> 23:12.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% feel that I am not a Democrat 23:12.266 --> 23:13.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% because I had later financial 23:13.366 --> 23:13.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% success. 23:13.766 --> 23:19.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% The core of me is the one that 23:19.433 --> 23:23.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% understands the pain of poverty. 23:23.700 --> 23:25.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I understand the life and the 23:25.100 --> 23:26.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% difficulties of raising a 23:26.133 --> 23:27.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% family, taking care of your 23:27.466 --> 23:28.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% parents, healthcare needs. 23:28.466 --> 23:33.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% And my struggles then were not 23:33.100 --> 23:34.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% different from Detroit 23:34.833 --> 23:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% constituents struggle now. 23:36.666 --> 23:45.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% The rope supporters supported me 23:45.233 --> 23:46.933 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% back then and are supporting me 23:46.933 --> 23:47.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% now is because they understand 23:47.866 --> 23:48.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% my story. 23:48.566 --> 23:51.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% But sometimes the elites look at 23:51.300 --> 23:54.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% me as a multimillionaire and 23:54.033 --> 23:55.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% don't think that I can be a 23:55.900 --> 23:59.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% Democrat. 23:59.233 --> 24:02.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Dr. Shri Thanendar, do you 24:02.366 --> 24:03.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% think people should be fined 500 24:03.766 --> 24:07.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% bucks if they don't wear a mask? 24:07.100 --> 24:08.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> It's going to be very 24:08.233 --> 24:11.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% difficult to impose that. 24:11.966 --> 24:16.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% And impose that, but we all need 24:16.800 --> 24:17.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% to wear the mask. 24:17.833 --> 24:21.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% And we all have this moral 24:21.466 --> 24:23.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% responsibility to do that, to 24:23.066 --> 24:24.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% protect our lives, but more 24:24.666 --> 24:26.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% importantly, protect other 24:26.100 --> 24:30.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% people's lives, especially the 24:30.666 --> 24:31.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% people who are vulnerable, we 24:31.800 --> 24:32.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% need to protect them. 24:32.700 --> 24:33.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% And it's certainly something 24:33.900 --> 24:38.333 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% that if we can enforce it, then 24:38.333 --> 24:40.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% we should. 24:40.066 --> 24:40.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> What about the people that 24:40.666 --> 24:42.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% are not masking up, are they 24:42.100 --> 24:45.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% unamerican or what are they? 24:45.800 --> 24:47.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> I think they just need more 24:47.433 --> 24:48.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% education. 24:48.466 --> 24:49.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% A lot of times they don't 24:49.766 --> 24:51.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% understand the science part of 24:51.300 --> 24:51.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% it. 24:51.466 --> 24:55.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% You know, especially in the 24:55.466 --> 24:58.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% Detroit area, people live in 24:58.066 --> 25:00.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% small quarters, evening if the 25:00.300 --> 25:03.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% kids can recover from covid, and 25:03.666 --> 25:05.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% elderly or somebody who is 25:05.100 --> 25:09.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% immunocompromised play not 25:09.233 --> 25:10.766 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% recover from a covid infection, 25:10.766 --> 25:12.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% this infection is so easy to 25:12.266 --> 25:13.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% pass to another person, so I 25:13.500 --> 25:15.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% think sometimes the young people 25:15.800 --> 25:17.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% do not understand the 25:17.233 --> 25:19.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% seriousness of it. 25:19.033 --> 25:21.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% And how it will impact an 25:21.566 --> 25:23.900 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% elderly person or somebody with 25:23.900 --> 25:26.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% immunocompromised system. 25:26.833 --> 25:27.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> You don't. 25:27.933 --> 25:28.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% [Speaking at the same time] 25:28.500 --> 25:30.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> You don't say some people 25:30.366 --> 25:31.766 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% think basically you are cutting 25:31.766 --> 25:33.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% in on their freedom, if they 25:33.500 --> 25:34.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% don't what. 25:34.200 --> 25:36.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% To wear a mask they shouldn't 25:36.866 --> 25:37.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% have to wear a mask. 25:37.900 --> 25:39.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> This is a science issue. 25:39.100 --> 25:42.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% We are dealing with a pandemic 25:42.633 --> 25:44.133 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% and the president has made this 25:44.133 --> 25:49.400 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% in to a political issue and now 25:49.400 --> 25:52.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% Early is polarized unfortunately 25:52.133 --> 25:53.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% something as simple as a 25:53.033 --> 25:55.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% scientific issue, a pandemic 25:55.366 --> 25:57.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% issue, an issue I about life and 25:57.300 --> 25:58.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% death now suddenly became a 25:58.700 --> 26:00.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% right issue and a left issue. 26:00.033 --> 26:05.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% And it's unfortunate we are 26:05.966 --> 26:06.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% dealing with not from a 26:06.800 --> 26:08.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% scientific points of view but 26:08.500 --> 26:13.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% with eyeology and the rest and 26:13.066 --> 26:14.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% left. 26:14.500 --> 26:16.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Let's do a little overtime 26:16.333 --> 26:17.933 align:start position:12.5% line:74% size:77.5% segment and hang other, doc and 26:17.933 --> 26:19.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% we'll be back after closed 26:19.133 --> 26:21.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% credits please going to WKAR.org 26:21.866 --> 26:23.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% for more of our conversation 26:23.400 --> 26:25.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% overtime with Dr. Shri Thanendar 26:25.000 --> 26:26.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% now run for this Michigan house, 26:26.533 --> 26:29.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% see you after 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