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WELL, THIS IS AN INTERESTING

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STORY.

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WE SHOW UP ON THE HOUSE FLOOR

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YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND THE

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SPEAKER AND THE DEMOCRATIC

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LEADERS SAY WE GOT A DEAL IN THE

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K-12 BUDGET TELL US.

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>> THAT WAS PRETTY UNEXPECTED

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AND VERY INTERESTING THE HOUSE

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DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS HAVE

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APPARENTLY COME TOGETHER, WE ARE

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GOING TO SEE MORE DETAILS A

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LITTLE BIT LATER THIS MORNING.

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>> WE ARE TAPING ON THURSDAY.

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>> YES SO WE ARE GOING TO SEE

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DETAILS AND WHAT THEY ENDED UP

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COMING TO A CONCLUSION ON BUT

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IT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE NO

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WHERE IN THIS TALK WAS GOVERNOR

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WHITMER SO WE HAVE A BIPARTISAN

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DEAL BUT APPARENTLY NOT ONE THE

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GOVERNOR IS ON BOARD WITH.

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>> I'M HERE HOPING THAT SOME OF

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YOU GUYS CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME

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BECAUSE.

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>> AS TO WHERE SHE WAS?

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SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT PART OF THE

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NEGOTIATIONS SO WHAT ARE THESE

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GUYS SUPPOSED TO DO?

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>> WE ARE ALL TRYING TO AND

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AGAIN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I

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THINK WE ARE ALL TRYING TO

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FIGURE OUT WHAT THE END GAME IS

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HERE OR AND IF, IN FACT, THERE

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IS ONE.

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>> WELL I THINK THE HOUSE

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DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO GET

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WHATEVER THEY CAN OUT OF THE

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BUDGET AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T

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HAVE THE KIND OF LEVERAGE LET'S

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MEDIA EFFECT AND NOT GET INTO

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IT.

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>> IT'S A VOTE THAT REQUIRES

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SUPER MAJORITIES AND THAT IS

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WHERE THE LEVERAGE COMES IN.

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>> IN ORDER TO SEND A FINISHED

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THAT TAKES EFFECT NOW THEY NEED

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FOUR DEMOCRATS TO DECIDE WITH

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THE REPUBLICANS TO DO THAT.

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>> THE SENATE DEMOCRATS HAVE

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LEVERAGE AND HAVE BEEN

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NEGOTIATING GETTING THINGS IN

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THE BUDGET ALONG THE WAY THE

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HOUSE DEMOCRATS AND THEY CAN'T

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DO SQUAT ABOUT IT SO THEY DECIDE

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TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE AND PUT

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THEIR NEGOTIATIONS OUT IN THE

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PUBLIC AND SAY LOOK WE GOT

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SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED AND THIS

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IS WHAT WE GOT ACCOMPLISHED.

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I THINK THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS

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THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING WITH

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THE GOVERNOR ON THAT AND ARE

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OPENING THEMSELVES UP TO GETTING

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RUN OVER MAYBE LATER IN THE

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>> DON'T YOU THINK THEY AT LEAST

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GAVE HER A HEADS UP THIS WAS

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COMING?

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>> YEAH, WELL YEAH THEY GAVE HER

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A HEADS UP.

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>> AND BASICALLY GO AHEAD AND DO

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IT.

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>> WELL.

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>> YEAH.

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>> WELL EVERY GOVERNOR IS

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CONSEQUENTIAL BECAUSE ANY BILL

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HAS TO GET A GOVERNOR'S

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SIGNATURE, BUT THE QUESTION --

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THE ISSUE THERE IS HOW

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CONSEQUENTIAL A GOVERNOR WILL BE

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BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A GAME

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OF BUDGET CHICKEN AS WE GET

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CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE OCTOBER

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1ST DEADLINE TO GET THIS DONE

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BECAUSE THAT IS THE START OF THE

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STATE'S FISCAL YEAR.

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>> LET'S POINT OUT OKAY THEY PUT

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30 MILLION IN FOR SPECIAL ED SHE

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WAS AT 120 MILLION SO THAT IS A

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PRETTY GOOD GAP AND DID CLOSE

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THE SPENDING GAP BETWEEN THE

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HAVE AND HAVE NOT AND THAT IS

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GOOD AND STARTED 10,000 UNDER

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DANNY DEGREE AND OTHERS SO THAT

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IS A MOVEMENT AND WHY NOT SEND

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HER THAT.

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>> I THINK IT REALLY FLIPPED THE

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SCRIPT ON WE WERE ALL TALKING

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ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THE

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NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE

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GOVERNOR AND THE REPUBLICAN

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LEADERS AND NOW THE HOUSE

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DEMOCRATS HAVE REALLY INSERTED

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THEMSELVES INTO THIS

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CONVERSATION SAYING WE ARE A

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PLAYER, YOU NEED US TO GET

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DEMOCRATIC VALUES IN THIS BUDGET

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AND SO YOU KNOW IT IS KIND OF A

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POWER MOVE AT THIS POINT TO SAY,

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HEY, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT

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GOING TO COME TO THE NEGOTIATING

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TABLE WE ARE.

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>> AND THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE

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HERE TOO TIM I DON'T KNOW IF THE

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HOUSE DEMOCRATS REALLY ARE

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SEEING THIS BUDGET THROUGH THE

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LENS OF THE GOVERNOR AND WHAT

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SHE IS LOOKING AT.

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FROM WHAT I WAS ABLE TO GATHER

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YESTERDAY ON THE HOUSE FLOOR

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THEY SUSPECT WHAT THE GOVERNOR

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IS DOING IS HIDING IN THE WEEDS

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AND WAKING FOR THE REPUBLICANS

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TO GIVE HER A BUDGET SO SHE CAN

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GO LINE ITEM THE HECK OUT OF IT

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AND KILL A BUNCH OF REPUBLICAN

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THINGS AND DRIVE THEM BACK TO

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THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.

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AND THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS DON'T

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KNOW IF THAT IS GOING TO

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ACTUALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE AND IF

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THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET

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ANYTHING OUT OF THAT PROCESS,

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THEY ARE SKEPTICAL AND THINK

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GRANHOLM TRIED THAT BACK IN 09

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AND IT DID NOT WORK OUT WELL,

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THE REPUBLICANS JUST LOOKED AT

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THEIR LINE ITEMS AND WERE LIKE

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WHATEVER AND THEN JUST MOVED ON.

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SO THEY ARE SAYING HEY LOOK IF

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WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT

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NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND

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DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE

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WE WILL GET OUT OF THE STRATEGY

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SHE IS GOING FOR.

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>> SOMETIMES THE BEST DEAL IS

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THE LEAST WORST DEAL.

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>> SHOULD WE BE WRITING THAT

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DOWN?

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ARE YOU GOING FOR QUOTE OF THE

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DAY.

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>> WE PAUSED SO WE COULD LET

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THAT SOAK IN.

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>> IT WAS PROFOUND.

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>> IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW,

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EVERY LEADER IN THIS AND EVERY

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CAUCUS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE

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HAS TO SAY WHERE THEY HAVE

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LEVERAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE

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THEY DON'T AND THE BIG QUESTION

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MARK HANGING OVER ALL OF THAT IS

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WHAT WILL GRETCHEN WHITMER DO

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WHAT WILL GRETCHEN WHITMER

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ACCEPT.

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>> DON'T YOU THINK LEE CHATFIELD

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THE SPEAKER LOVED IT HAVING THE

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DEMOCRATIC LEADER STANDING NEXT

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TO HIM JUST 35 FEET AWAY FROM

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THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE MAYBE A

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LITTLE MORE AND NOT SAYING HERE

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YOU GO GOVERNOR.

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>> SHE HAD A QUOTE SAYING SHE

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WANTED A BUDGET BEFORE THE

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WEEKEND AND I WAS LIKE WHOA.

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>> THIS HAS TURNED INTO A VERY

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INTERESTING BUDGET NEGOTIATION

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NOBODY IS PREDICTING A SHUT DOWN

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AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE

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ONE, DO WE STILL ALL AGREE ON

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THAT ONE?

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>> I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET A

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SHUT DOWN WITH THE UAW STRIKE

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GOING ON THERE IS ALREADY PEOPLE

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OUT OF WORK, FOR GOVERNOR

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WHITMER TO SAY 38,000 STATE

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EMPLOYEES MANY OF WHOM ARE UNION

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EMPLOYEES.

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>> SOME U AW MEMBERS.

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>> EXACTLY.

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>> YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO SHOW

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UP FOR WORK I DON'T THINK SHE

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WILL DO THAT ESPECIALLY OVER A

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TAX INCREASE.

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>> I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD

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LOOK GOOD COMING OUT AT THIS

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JUNCTURE AND RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT

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SOMETHING THAT MAKES A LOT OF

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POLITICAL SENSE AT THIS POINT

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ESPECIALLY AS YOU SAID WITH THE

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UAW STRIKE THERE IS A LOT OF

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PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, IT'S JUST

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NOT A GOOD LOOK.

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>> LET'S TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT

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THE GOVERNOR AND HER POSSIBILITY

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OF BEING INTERESTED IN VICE

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PRESIDENT, TAKE A LOOK.

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GIVE ME A ONE WORD REACTION TO

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GRETCHEN WHITMER CANDIDATE FOR

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VICE PRESIDENT IT'S HAPPENING TO

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GRETCHEN GOVERNOR WHITMER LIKE

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ALL THE OTHER GOVERNORS BEFORE

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HER INCLUDING SOPHIE WILLIAMS

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GEORGE ROMNEY BILL MILLIKEN

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BLANCHARD ENGLER AND JENNIFER

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GRANHOLM AND SNYDER ALL OF THE

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MICHIGAN GOVERNORS WERE

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MENTIONED FOR POSSIBLE POSITIONS

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IN A PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION

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AND FOLLOWING HER APPEARANCE AT

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THE DETROIT DEMOCRATIC

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PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE RECENTLY

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GOVERNOR WHITMER'S NAME ENTERED

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THE CONVERSATION FOR WHAT ELSE?

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VICE PRESIDENT.

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WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THAT

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ORIGINAL QUESTION GIVE ME A ONE

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WORD REACTION TO GRETCHEN

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WHITMER CANDIDATE FOR VICE

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PRESIDENT.

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>> NO.

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>> GIVE ME ANOTHER WORD.

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>> YOU KNOW WHAT, ALL THE

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SPECULATION IS SUCH A

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DISTRACTION FROM ALL THE STUFF

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I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET DONE

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AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO ENGAGE

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IN IT.

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>> HOW FIRM IS THAT NO IF

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DRAFTED WILL YOU NOT RUN, FIF

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ELECTED WILL YOU NOT SERVE

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GOVERNOR DO YOU WANT TO TALK

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ABOUT THIS?

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>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET

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TIM.

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>> THE GOVERNOR SAID NO BUT IN

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THE HYPER ACTIVE SOCIAL MEDIA

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WORLD WE LIVE IN THERE ARE THOSE

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WHO WON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER,

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IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS ARE

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ALREADY CRITICIZING HER FOR

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TRYING TO POLISH HER NATIONAL

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IMAGE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE

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PROBLEMS BACK HOME.

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SO ONE MORE DEFINITIVE QUESTION

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TO HER AND AN ANSWER FROM HER.

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SAY YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE VICE

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PRESIDENT.

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>> TIM I DO NOT WANT TO BE A

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VICE PRESIDENT.

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>> OKAY THAT PUTS THAT TO REST

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DOESN'T IT?

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>> I AM GRATEFUL TO BE THE 49TH

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GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF

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MICHIGAN, I'M DETERMINED TO SEE

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THROUGH ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS

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THAT I'VE LISTED AND I'M GOING

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TO FIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

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FIX THE ROADS ONCE AND FOR ALL.

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>> SO THE SPECULATION MAY

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CONTINUE BUT THE GOVERNOR

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MAKINGS IT CLEAR SHE IS NOT

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INTERESTED IN VICE PRESIDENT.

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SO KYLE WHY WERE YOU LAUGHING

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DURING THAT PIECE?

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>> I LOVED WATCHING HOW SHE

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WANTED TO MANEUVER AROUND YOUR

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ANSWERS NEVER REALLY SLAMMING

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THE DOOR SHUT BUT TRYING TO MAKE

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IT LOOK REALLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S

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NOT WHAT SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT

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NOW.

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>> WAIT A MINUTE WHEN SHE SAYS I

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DO NOT, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

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>> SHE HANDLED THE QUESTION,

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QUESTIONS EXACTLY THE WAY THAT

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SHE SHOULD HAVE AND PARTLY

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BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU

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SLAM THE DOOR SHUT ON

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SPECULATION BY OTHER PEOPLE,

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ONE.

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AND, TWO, IF FOR SOME REASON SHE

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IS TAPPED FOR THE POSITION THEN

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SHE CAN SAY, LOOK, I WAS VERY

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HAPPY BEING THE GOVERNOR OF

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MICHIGAN BUT MY PARTY CALLED AND

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I FELT AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE.

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>> I DIDN'T WANT THIS POSITION

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BUT THIS POSITION NEEDS, THIS

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COUNTRY NEEDS ME RIGHT NOW AND I

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AM COMPELLED TO SERVE.

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>> WELL YOU KNOW.

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>> PUT SENSE INTO THIS.

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>> I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLY

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FOR SOMEONE TO COME FORWARD AND

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SAY I WANT TO BE VICE PRESIDENT

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SO I THINK THE NO ANSWER IS

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PRETTY EXPECTED AT THIS POINT

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AND YOU KNOW AS YOU MENTIONED IN

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YOUR PIECE, EVERY MICHIGAN

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GOVERNOR AT SOME POINT HAS KIND

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OF BEEN THROWN INTO THE

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SPECULATION.

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IT'S YOU KNOW A PART OF BEING A

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DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN

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GOVERNOR DEPENDING WHO IS

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LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE.

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>> SWING STATE WITH AN EMBLEM

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ECONOMY AND A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER

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OF ELECTORAL VOTES THE

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SPECULATION IS MAGNETIC.

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>> IF YOU HAVE A FEMALE AND MALE

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ON THE TOP OF THE TICKET AND JOE

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BIDEN CALLS HER UP AND NEEDS THE

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MIDWEST CONNECTION SHE IS

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YOUNGER AND REPRESENTS THE STATE

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AND DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE RECORD

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AS GOVERNOR BUT GOOD ENOUGH AS

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FAR AS THE VAPING GOES.

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YOU KNOW IT'S A STATE ON THE

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REBOUND, I THINK IT MAKES A LOT

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OF SENSE, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY

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HER NAME IS BEING MENTIONED.

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>> ON THE VAPING SHE SHOWED SHE

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HAS SKILLS AND CAN ANNOUNCE SHE

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IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE EMERGENCY

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RULES BEFORE SHE ANNOUNCES THE

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EMERGENCY RULES AND I'M SURE

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THAT AFTER THIS THERE WILL BE

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THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY HAVE

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BEEN ANNOUNCED.

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>> LET'S CONTRAST HER HANDING

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THE VP THING TO MR. SNYDER DO

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YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE DID HE

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NEVER PUT IT TO REST AND TOLD ME

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AFTERWARDS PRIVATELY I WANTED TO

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CONTINUE THE SPECULATION BECAUSE

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EVERY TIME THEY ASK ME I COULD

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TELL THE MICHIGAN STORY.

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SO HE DELIBERATELY LET THE RUMOR

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AND THE SPECULATION GO FORWARD.

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SHE IS TRYING TO -- I TAKE HER

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AT HER WORD, IT IS A DISTRACTION

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OKAY AND IT DOES FORCE YOU TO

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TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL AND

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SHE SAID LOOK I'M WILLING TO

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WORK FOR THE TICKET, I HAVE NO

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PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL, BUT

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YOU KNOW SHE IS FROM MICHIGAN, I

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THINK.

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>> THERE IS A BUDGET CONTROVERSY

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LINGERING OUT THERE AND

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SOMETHING LIKE A GOVERNMENT SHUT

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DOWN OR A PARTIAL GOVERNMENT

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SHUT DOWN DOESN'T EXACTLY BURISH

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YOUR CREDENTIALS FOR A NATIONAL

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TICKET.

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>> SHE HAS NOT SHUNNED THE

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NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT AND BROKE THE

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VAPING STUFF IN "THE WASHINGTON

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POST."

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>> MORE FUEL TO THIS FIRE THAT

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SHE IS POSITIONING HERSELF FOR

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SOMETHING.

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>> RIGHT, RIGHT, SO IT'S NOT AS

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THOUGH SHE IS IGNORING THE

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NATIONAL PRESENCE, SHE HAS BEEN

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FEATURED IN SOME NATIONAL

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ARTICLES ABOUT THE MIDWEST TREND

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AND IT'S SO I DON'T THINK THAT

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SHE IS YOU KNOW SHUNNING THE

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SPOTLIGHT NECESSARILY, BUT,

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YEAH, I THINK SHE PROBABLY DOES

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VIEW ANY SPECULATION FOR A

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HIGHER TICKET AT THIS POINT TO

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BE A DISTRACTION FROM THE BUDGET

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FOR EXAMPLE.

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>> YES ESPECIALLY IN THIS

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CLIMATE.

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>> ANYBODY WHO IS ANNOUNCING OR

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POSITIONING OR SAYING THEY WANT

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TO RUN FOR VICE PRESIDENT WILL

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NOT BE VICE PRESIDENT.

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THEY WILL NOT BE ALL RIGHT WE

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CAN JUST SAY THAT SO SHE CAN SAY

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IN SEPTEMBER LOOK I DON'T WANT

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TO BE VICE PRESIDENT BUT IF

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SOMEBODY CALLS IN APRIL AND SAYS

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WE WANT TO INTERVIEW YOU FOR

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VICE PRESIDENT BECAUSE WE THINK

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WE NEED YOU TO PREVENT DONALD

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TRUMP FROM GETTING A SECOND TERM

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SHE WON'T SAY NO TO THAT.

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>> ON THE ONE HAND THERE IS

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LITTLE TO LOSE BY STOKING THAT

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SPECULATION.

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THERE IS ONE CRITICAL THING TO

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LOSE WHICH IS IF SHE BECOMES A

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SYMBOL WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC

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COALITION THAT ALSO MAKES HER A

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BIGGER TARGET FOR THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY AT THE SAME TIME THAT SHE

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IS TRYING TO GET A LOT OF STUFF

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DONE IN A TRICKY PERIOD.

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>> THEY ALREADY STARTED

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SNIPERING AT HER AND DID THE

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TODAY SHOW AND LEFT THE BUDGET

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NEGOTIATIONS AND THE REPUBLICANS

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PUT THE STORY OUT AND DOES PUT

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HER IN A TENABLE POSITION LOOK

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AT MR. SNYDER HAD IT RIGHT AND

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SAYS PEOPLE HIRED ME TO BE

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GOVERNOR OF THE STATE IN HIS

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FIRST YEAR HE DIDN'T DO ANY

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NATIONAL TV SHOWS IF YOU RECALL,

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DIDN'T DO "MEET THE PRESS,"

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DIDN'T DO "FACE THE NATION" AND

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DID NOT DO IT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE

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HE SAID THEY HIRED ME TO RUN

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MICHIGAN.

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>> HE UNDERSTOOD THE PERILS OF

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THAT.

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>> THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO

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THE ISLAND WHY ARE THEY GOING

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THERE?

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>> BUY ANNUAL CONFERENCE AND

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WHEN IT'S NOT AN ELECTION THEY

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GO IN SEPTEMBER AND BRING UP

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SOME SPEAKERS USUALLY A GOOD

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OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS WHO ARE

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LOOKING FOR RUNNING FOR OFFICE

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IN THE NEXT YEAR TO MEET AND

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GREET, TO FUND RAISE, GET THEIR

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NAME OUT THERE.

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>> MESSAGING.

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>> THIS YEAR WE DON'T HAVE A LOT

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OF THAT.

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THE U.S. SENATE RACE ALREADY

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LOOKS KIND OF SEWED UP AND JOHN

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JAMES AND QUESTIONS ON

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CONGRESSIONAL SIDE WHO IS

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RUNNING FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES

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AND MIKE PENCE COMING UP, THE

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VOOIS PRESIDENT AND SARAH

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HUCKABEE SANDERS WILL BE UP

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THERE AS WELL THE MINORITY

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LEADER FROM THE U.S. HOUSE

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MCCARTHY WILL BE THERE AS WELL

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SO THERE WILL BE SOME SPEAKERS

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BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME

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KIND OF ENERGY AS LET'S SAY LAST

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YEAR OR IN 2017 WHEN WE HAD THAT

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COMPETITIVE GUBERNATORIAL

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PRIMARY.

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>> THEY ARE PRETTY HEAVY ON THE

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KEY NOTES THIS YEAR WITH AS MIKE

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PENCE AND SOME OF THOSE NATIONAL

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NAMES COMING TO MICHIGAN WHICH

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IS SIGNIFICANT BUT, YEAH, IN

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TERMS OF SOME OF THOSE BIG RACES

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WE KIND OF KNOW WHO IS GOING TO

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BE RUNNING FOR A LOT OF THOSE AT

520
00:14:26,232 --> 00:14:26,732
THIS POINT.

521
00:14:26,732 --> 00:14:29,969
>> WELL, IT'S RAMPING UP FOR

522
00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:30,836
TRYING TO KEEP MICHIGAN.

523
00:14:30,836 --> 00:14:31,403
>> RIGHT.

524
00:14:31,403 --> 00:14:32,771
>> IN THE CLUB COLUMN.

525
00:14:32,771 --> 00:14:36,542
>> 2020 IS THE BIG FOCUS HERE.

526
00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:37,710
>> GOING TO THE GRAND HOTEL

527
00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,478
BEFORE IT CHANGES OVER TO A

528
00:14:39,478 --> 00:14:42,514
HOLIDAY INN JUNIOR OR WHAT?

529
00:14:42,514 --> 00:14:44,083
I MEAN WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

530
00:14:44,083 --> 00:14:46,051
THAT STORY HAS RAISED SOME

531
00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:47,419
CONCERN ON THE ISLAND.

532
00:14:47,419 --> 00:14:48,320
>> WELL IT HAS RAISED SOME

533
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,788
CONCERN AND I THINK YOU HAVE

534
00:14:49,788 --> 00:14:51,557
DONE SOME REPORTING ON THIS TIM

535
00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:53,525
GOOD REPORTING ABOUT CONCERNS

536
00:14:53,525 --> 00:14:56,929
ABOUT THE PHILANTHROPY IT HAS

537
00:14:56,929 --> 00:14:58,597
REIGNED ON THE ISLAND WITH

538
00:14:58,597 --> 00:15:00,366
DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND SO FORTH

539
00:15:00,366 --> 00:15:02,434
AND WILL THEY BE AS ENGAGED IN

540
00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:04,069
THE COMMUNITY AS THE FAMILY HAS

541
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:06,105
BEEN ENGAGED WITH A BIG

542
00:15:06,105 --> 00:15:09,241
CORPORATE ENTITY COMING OUT OF

543
00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:11,944
COLORADO WILL THEY BE AS

544
00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:13,412
CONNECTED THE HOPE IS THAT WILL

545
00:15:13,412 --> 00:15:15,080
BE BUT WHEN YOU CHECK IN WITH A

546
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,882
HIGHER UP THE ANSWER IS NOT

547
00:15:16,882 --> 00:15:17,349
ALWAYS YES.

548
00:15:17,349 --> 00:15:19,818
>> THE MUSSER FAMILY AND

549
00:15:19,818 --> 00:15:21,020
INDEPENDENT OWNERSHIP OF THE

550
00:15:21,020 --> 00:15:22,354
GRAND HOTEL IS PART OF THE

551
00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:23,555
LEGEND OF THE GRAND HOTEL.

552
00:15:23,555 --> 00:15:25,190
/└> LET'S SEE DO WE PUT THE

553
00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:26,992
CHOCOLATES ON THE PILLOW OR NOT,

554
00:15:26,992 --> 00:15:27,526
THAT SORT OF STUFF.

555
00:15:27,526 --> 00:15:30,462
>> I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE

556
00:15:30,462 --> 00:15:31,764
WALL PAPER WILL CHANGE AT ALL IF

557
00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,198
THERE IS ANY UPDATES THERE.

558
00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:35,834
>> STAY TUNED LET'S CALL IN OUR

559
00:15:35,834 --> 00:15:38,170
GUEST SENATOR JEREMY MOSS.

560
00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:39,638
DEMOCRATIC STATE SENATOR JEREMY

561
00:15:39,638 --> 00:15:41,740
MOSS IS IN HIS FIRST TERM IN THE

562
00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:43,876
STATE SENATE.

563
00:15:43,876 --> 00:15:46,145
PRIOR TO THAT HE SERVED IN THE

564
00:15:46,145 --> 00:15:46,779
HOUSE FROM OAKLAND COUNTY...FROM

565
00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:48,047
2014 TO 2018. HE HOLDS A

566
00:15:48,047 --> 00:15:49,615
JOURNALISM DEGREE FROM MSU, IS A

567
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:51,951
MEMBER OF THE NAACP AND WORKED

568
00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:52,584
WITH THE MAYOR OF SOUTHFIELD AND

569
00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:58,958
TWO FORMER HOUSE MEMBERS BEFORE

570
00:15:58,958 --> 00:15:59,491
GOING THERE HIMSELF.

571
00:15:59,491 --> 00:16:01,260
>> IF YOU ASK I'M NOT INTERESTED

572
00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:02,728
IN BEING VICE PRESIDENT.

573
00:16:02,728 --> 00:16:03,996
>> OKAY I DON'T THINK WE HAD IT

574
00:16:03,996 --> 00:16:05,831
ON THE LIST BUT IF YOU WOULD

575
00:16:05,831 --> 00:16:06,999
LIKE US TO ASK KYLE HAS

576
00:16:06,999 --> 00:16:08,767
SOMETHING DIFFERENT I THINK.

577
00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:10,436
>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE SENATOR

578
00:16:10,436 --> 00:16:11,570
WHEN YOU STARTED IN THE

579
00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:12,571
LEGISLATURE YOU ESTABLISHED A

580
00:16:12,571 --> 00:16:14,840
VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

581
00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,642
TIME ANOTHER FRESHMAN BY THE

582
00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:18,577
NAME OF LEE CHATFIELD AND YOU

583
00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:19,912
GUYS WERE BUDDY BUDDY.

584
00:16:19,912 --> 00:16:21,547
>> DOING WELL FOR HIMSELF THESE

585
00:16:21,547 --> 00:16:21,747
DAYS.

586
00:16:21,747 --> 00:16:22,414
>> GREAT AND SPEAKER OF THE

587
00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:24,283
HOUSE YOU ARE IN THE SENATE HAVE

588
00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:26,085
YOU GUYS MAINTAINED THE

589
00:16:26,085 --> 00:16:27,519
CONNECTION, DO YOU STILL FEEL

590
00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:28,554
THERE IS A BIPARTISAN SPIRIT

591
00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:29,989
WITH HIM IN THAT POSITION?

592
00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:30,923
>> ABSOLUTELY.

593
00:16:30,923 --> 00:16:31,924
THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS THAT I'M

594
00:16:31,924 --> 00:16:33,859
SERVING IN ONE CHAMBER AND HE IS

595
00:16:33,859 --> 00:16:35,561
IN THE OTHER BUT WE STILL TALK

596
00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:36,562
TO ONE ANOTHER ESPECIALLY ABOUT

597
00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:38,464
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE

598
00:16:38,464 --> 00:16:41,266
LEGISLATURE AND JUST GOES TO

599
00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:43,202
SHOW YOU YOU CAN LOOK AT THE

600
00:16:43,202 --> 00:16:45,004
BICKERING IN THE HEADLINES BUT

601
00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,373
WE GET ALONG WITH ONE ANOTHER

602
00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:48,207
AND ABLE TO WORK WITH ONE

603
00:16:48,207 --> 00:16:49,808
ANOTHER AND GOES TO THE BIG

604
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:50,843
QUESTION I DON'T THINK WE WILL

605
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:52,411
HEAD TO A BUDGET AND GOVERNMENT

606
00:16:52,411 --> 00:16:53,545
SHUT DOWN BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING

607
00:16:53,545 --> 00:16:54,213
TO ONE ANOTHER.

608
00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:55,814
THE GOVERNOR IS TALKING TO THE

609
00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:58,083
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS AND YOU KNOW

610
00:16:58,083 --> 00:16:59,485
PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND LEE

611
00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:01,253
COMMUNICATE ALL THE TIME ABOUT

612
00:17:01,253 --> 00:17:02,855
WHAT'S GOING ON IN LANSING AND

613
00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:04,857
SO THERE IS A CAMARADERIE THERE.

614
00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:06,925
>> WHAT WERE THE OPTICS

615
00:17:06,925 --> 00:17:07,960
YESTERDAY OF THE DEMOCRATIC

616
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,328
LEADER SPEAKER DOING A DEAL AND

617
00:17:09,328 --> 00:17:11,930
THE GOVERNMENT NEAR BEING ON THE

618
00:17:11,930 --> 00:17:14,867
OUZ L -- OUTSIDE AND LOOKING IN?

619
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,101
>> LOOK AT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

620
00:17:16,101 --> 00:17:17,936
>> THIS IS A NON-STORY.

621
00:17:17,936 --> 00:17:19,104
>> THIS IS A NON-STORY.

622
00:17:19,104 --> 00:17:19,671
>> WHY?

623
00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:21,273
>> THE GOVERNOR IS INVOLVED IN

624
00:17:21,273 --> 00:17:23,075
THE DISCUSSIONS AND HAS BEEN

625
00:17:23,075 --> 00:17:23,809
CALLING LEADERS INTO HER OFFICE

626
00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:25,144
AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD

627
00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,079
SHE MIGHT HAVE EMPOWERED THEM TO

628
00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:28,881
NEGOTIATE ON THEIR OWN AND COME

629
00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:32,151
TO HER WHEN THEY HAVE BROKERED A

630
00:17:32,151 --> 00:17:32,718
FINAL DEAL.

631
00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:35,421
>> DID SHE TELL YOU TO SAY THAT?

632
00:17:35,421 --> 00:17:37,956
>> SHE DID NOT TELL ME TO SAY

633
00:17:37,956 --> 00:17:38,157
THAT.

634
00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:39,324
>> TENSION BETWEEN LEGISLATIVE

635
00:17:39,324 --> 00:17:40,726
DEMOCRATS AND THE GOVERNOR?

636
00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:41,860
>> NOT A LOT OF TENSION.

637
00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:43,228
>> NOT A LOT BUT THERE IS SOME.

638
00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:44,463
>> WELL YOU KNOW I THINK

639
00:17:44,463 --> 00:17:45,798
NATURALLY YOU KNOW WE ARE GOING

640
00:17:45,798 --> 00:17:48,600
TO HAVE GROWING PAINS JUST

641
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,835
NATURALLY SPEAKING, BUT AT THE

642
00:17:49,835 --> 00:17:51,303
END OF THE DAY I'M REALLY

643
00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:53,739
EXCITED THAT WE HAVE A

644
00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:55,107
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AFTER EIGHT

645
00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:56,809
YEARS UNDER REPUBLICAN CONTROL

646
00:17:56,809 --> 00:17:58,077
AND MY FIRST FOUR YEARS UNDER

647
00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:58,811
REPUBLICAN CONTROL AND WE HAVE

648
00:17:58,811 --> 00:18:00,979
SOMEBODY WHO GOES TO BAT FOR OUR

649
00:18:00,979 --> 00:18:02,414
VALUES EVERY SINGLE DAY AND TOW

650
00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:05,284
TO TOW WITH THE REPUBLICAN

651
00:18:05,284 --> 00:18:06,518
LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE AND

652
00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:07,953
SENATE SO I'M HAPPY SHE IS AT

653
00:18:07,953 --> 00:18:09,088
THE TABLE BECAUSE IT WILL BE

654
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,356
MORE OF THE SAME DEMOCRATS SHUT

655
00:18:11,356 --> 00:18:12,724
OUT OF THE DISCUSSION AS WE HAVE

656
00:18:12,724 --> 00:18:13,992
BEEN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND

657
00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:15,661
I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD HAVE

658
00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:17,129
SEEN A REPUBLICAN SPEAKER AND A

659
00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:18,197
DEMOCRATIC LEADER COME TOGETHER

660
00:18:18,197 --> 00:18:19,631
ON ANYTHING IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A

661
00:18:19,631 --> 00:18:20,732
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR.

662
00:18:20,732 --> 00:18:21,967
>> WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE CONCLUDE

663
00:18:21,967 --> 00:18:23,235
FROM THE DEMOCRATIC AND

664
00:18:23,235 --> 00:18:25,804
REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THE HOUSE

665
00:18:25,804 --> 00:18:28,407
GETTING READY TO SEND HER

666
00:18:28,407 --> 00:18:30,375
BUDGETS AND BASICALLY DARING HER

667
00:18:30,375 --> 00:18:34,246
TO LINE ITEM VETO OR ALTOGETHER

668
00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:34,847
VETO BILLS.

669
00:18:34,847 --> 00:18:37,049
>> I THINK THAT IS PART OF

670
00:18:37,049 --> 00:18:38,417
GOVERNING AND PART OF THE

671
00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:38,650
PROCESS.

672
00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:39,718
>> IT'S A LITTLE UNIQUE.

673
00:18:39,718 --> 00:18:41,353
>> IT IS A LITTLE UNIQUE WE ARE

674
00:18:41,353 --> 00:18:43,188
IN DIVIDED GOVERNMENT SO FOR THE

675
00:18:43,188 --> 00:18:44,590
LAST EIGHT YEARS YOU KNOW I LOVE

676
00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,091
HOW RICK SNYDER SAID I HAD A

677
00:18:46,091 --> 00:18:47,860
BUDGET ON TIME EVERY ONE OF

678
00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:49,161
THESE LAST EIGHT YEARS THAT IS

679
00:18:49,161 --> 00:18:51,063
REALLY EASY TO DO WHEN ONE PARTY

680
00:18:51,063 --> 00:18:53,098
IS AT THE TABLE SO THE GOVERNOR

681
00:18:53,098 --> 00:18:55,100
YIELDS HER POWER, THIS LINE ITEM

682
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:57,035
VETO POWER TO INSERT HERSELF

683
00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:58,270
INTO THE BUDGET.

684
00:18:58,270 --> 00:18:59,571
SHE CAN'T PUT THINGS IN THE

685
00:18:59,571 --> 00:19:00,806
BUDGET BUT SHE CAN CERTAINLY

686
00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:02,307
TAKE THINGS OUT OF THE BUDGET

687
00:19:02,307 --> 00:19:04,076
THEN WE WILL DEAL WITH

688
00:19:04,076 --> 00:19:05,244
SUPPLEMENTALS AFTERWARDS SO THIS

689
00:19:05,244 --> 00:19:07,379
IS PART OF THE PROCESS SO I

690
00:19:07,379 --> 00:19:09,014
DON'T SEE THIS AS SOME SORT OF

691
00:19:09,014 --> 00:19:09,948
FRICTION BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR

692
00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:10,949
AND THE LEGISLATURE AND

693
00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:12,251
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, THIS

694
00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:14,319
IS PART OF GOVERNING AND IT'S

695
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:15,954
GOING TO LEAD US TO GETTING A

696
00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:18,357
BUDGET DONE ON TIME I HOPE.

697
00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:19,925
>> YOU SAID SOMETHING VERY

698
00:19:19,925 --> 00:19:20,492
INTERESTING SO DO YOU KNOW

699
00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:21,727
SOMETHING ABOUT THE GOVERNOR

700
00:19:21,727 --> 00:19:25,731
PLANNING VETOES AND THEN SENDING

701
00:19:25,731 --> 00:19:27,599
SUPPLEMENTALS TO THE LEGISLATURE

702
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:28,467
LATER, IS THAT THE STRATEGY?

703
00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:30,035
>> I THINK THAT HAS BEEN IN

704
00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:30,335
DISCUSSION.

705
00:19:30,335 --> 00:19:31,270
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE

706
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:31,570
STRATEGY.

707
00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:32,538
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO

708
00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:32,871
HAPPEN.

709
00:19:32,871 --> 00:19:34,773
WE SIT HERE YOU KNOW JUST ABOUT

710
00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:36,542
A DOZEN DAYS BEFORE THE BUDGET

711
00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:37,876
DEADLINE AND I'VE HEARD ALL

712
00:19:37,876 --> 00:19:38,977
SCENARIOS FLOATED OUT THERE.

713
00:19:38,977 --> 00:19:40,746
AND SO WE WILL SEE WHERE WE END

714
00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:42,414
UP IN A FINAL PRODUCT.

715
00:19:42,414 --> 00:19:45,284
BUT THE GOVERNOR HAS HER POWER

716
00:19:45,284 --> 00:19:46,351
AS GOVERNOR TO INSERT HERSELF IN

717
00:19:46,351 --> 00:19:47,152
THIS BUDGET.

718
00:19:47,152 --> 00:19:49,755
>> IF THEY PUT 500 MILLION INTO

719
00:19:49,755 --> 00:19:50,722
THE BUDGET FOR ROADS WILL YOU

720
00:19:50,722 --> 00:19:51,823
VOTE YES ON THAT?

721
00:19:51,823 --> 00:19:52,624
>> I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T

722
00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:54,026
KNOW WHAT THE FINAL M-DOT BUDGET

723
00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:55,694
IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

724
00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:57,229
>> IT'S A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

725
00:19:57,229 --> 00:19:58,931
>> IT'S NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION,

726
00:19:58,931 --> 00:19:59,097
TIM.

727
00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:00,699
>> YOU'RE A JOURNALIST YOU

728
00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:01,200
UNDERSTAND SIMPLICITY.

729
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,602
>> AND YOU HAVE NOT ASKED A

730
00:20:03,602 --> 00:20:04,203
SIMPLE QUESTION.

731
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,505
YOU HAVE 500 MILLION WHEN WE

732
00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:07,639
SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT 2.5

733
00:20:07,639 --> 00:20:07,873
BILLION.

734
00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:09,775
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

735
00:20:09,775 --> 00:20:11,777
>> AND MY SOUTH FIELD FOLKS BACK

736
00:20:11,777 --> 00:20:14,613
HOME WILL TELL YOU IT COSTS TO

737
00:20:14,613 --> 00:20:17,082
PAVE ONE LANE OF ROAD FOR ONE

738
00:20:17,082 --> 00:20:17,749
MILE.

739
00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:18,350
>> SENATOR.

740
00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:18,951
>> A MILLION DOLLARS.

741
00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:20,352
>> I GOT THAT IF QUESTION IS IF

742
00:20:20,352 --> 00:20:23,188
THERE IS 500 MILLION IN FOR THE

743
00:20:23,188 --> 00:20:25,190
ROADS WILL YOU VOTE FOR IT?

744
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:27,526
>> IT'S INSUFFICIENT TIM.

745
00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,161
>> YOU ARE VOTING NOW.

746
00:20:29,161 --> 00:20:30,896
>> 500 MILLION IS INSUFFICIENT

747
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,831
AND SLOW OUR DECLINE SO IF

748
00:20:32,831 --> 00:20:33,865
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IS TELLING

749
00:20:33,865 --> 00:20:35,834
ME 500 MILLION SOLVES THE

750
00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:37,002
PROBLEM FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL.

751
00:20:37,002 --> 00:20:38,203
>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

752
00:20:38,203 --> 00:20:40,038
>> THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER.

753
00:20:40,038 --> 00:20:41,740
>> YOU ARE SAYING IT'S

754
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:42,040
COMPLICATED.

755
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,709
>> NO, I DIDN'T.

756
00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,310
>> ACTUALLY YOU JUST DID.

757
00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:47,079
>> WITH LONG-TERM ROAD FUNDING

758
00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,647
APPARENTLY OFF THE TABLE UNTIL

759
00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:51,149
THE BUDGETS ARE DONE WHAT IS THE

760
00:20:51,149 --> 00:20:54,753
BEST CASE SCENARIO ON ROADS.

761
00:20:54,753 --> 00:20:56,888
>> GO BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION

762
00:20:56,888 --> 00:20:58,657
TABLE ON OCTOBER 1ST AND TALK

763
00:20:58,657 --> 00:21:00,359
HOW WE DIDN'T PUT ROAD FUNDING

764
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,995
IN THE FINAL BUDGET BECAUSE

765
00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:04,196
REPUBLICANS WERE NOT WILLING TO

766
00:21:04,196 --> 00:21:05,530
NEGOTIATE ON ROAD FUNDING SO I

767
00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:07,165
DON'T THINK THAT -- THE PERSON

768
00:21:07,165 --> 00:21:08,467
WHO SITS IN THEIR LIVING ROOM

769
00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:10,135
AND WATCHES THIS PROGRAM I DON'T

770
00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:12,337
THINK THINKS YOU KNOW OH, I WISH

771
00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:13,805
WE HAD OUR ROADS FIXED BY

772
00:21:13,805 --> 00:21:14,806
SEPTEMBER 30 THEY HAVE BEEN

773
00:21:14,806 --> 00:21:16,808
WISHING FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS

774
00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:20,779
OUR ROADS HAVE BEEN BETTER AND

775
00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:23,949
WE THE TACKLE WITH THIS WITHOUT

776
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,083
A SEPTEMBER 30 DEADLINE LOOM

777
00:21:25,083 --> 00:21:25,417
OVER US.

778
00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:28,854
>> YOU WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE

779
00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:29,788
ADDITIONAL ROAD FUNDING UNTIL

780
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,123
THE LARGER PLAN IS IN PLACE.

781
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:32,991
>> THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN

782
00:21:32,991 --> 00:21:34,559
DOING THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND

783
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:35,927
IT HASN'T WORKED.

784
00:21:35,927 --> 00:21:38,030
LAST YEAR HOUSE AND SENATE

785
00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,966
REPUBLICANS CROWED THEY PUT 175

786
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,534
MILLION INTO ROADS AND SO YOU

787
00:21:42,534 --> 00:21:43,969
KNOW IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR

788
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:45,837
THE ROADS THAT ARE CRUMBLING IN

789
00:21:45,837 --> 00:21:47,339
MY DISTRICT AND SO THAT'S THE

790
00:21:47,339 --> 00:21:49,441
BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT I DON'T

791
00:21:49,441 --> 00:21:51,677
WANT TO GET INTO THIS HALF BAKED

792
00:21:51,677 --> 00:21:52,811
MEASURES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING

793
00:21:52,811 --> 00:21:54,212
FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THAT

794
00:21:54,212 --> 00:21:55,314
HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

795
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:57,983
WE NEED A DEDICATED, NEW REVENU

796
00:21:57,983 --> 00:21:59,318
STREAM TO GO TOWARDS ROADS.

797
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:00,719
500 MILLION IN THE BUDGET AIN'T

798
00:22:00,719 --> 00:22:01,553
GOING TO DO IT.

799
00:22:01,553 --> 00:22:02,821
>> YOU MIGHT NOT.

800
00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:05,557
>> GAS TAX INCREASE WILL DO IT

801
00:22:05,557 --> 00:22:07,192
WHY HAVE YOU NOT INTRODUCED A

802
00:22:07,192 --> 00:22:09,394
BILL TO INCREASE THE GAS TAX 45

803
00:22:09,394 --> 00:22:11,063
CENTS YOUR GOVERNOR ASKED?

804
00:22:11,063 --> 00:22:12,664
>> IT WAS BAKED IN THE

805
00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:13,398
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND THOUGHT

806
00:22:13,398 --> 00:22:15,701
THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST

807
00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:16,902
PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW TO ACTUALLY

808
00:22:16,902 --> 00:22:18,236
SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT I'M ONE OF

809
00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:20,939
THOSE PEOPLE THAT IN MAY OF 2015

810
00:22:20,939 --> 00:22:22,574
WANTED THE BUMPER STICKER THAT

811
00:22:22,574 --> 00:22:24,843
SAID DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR

812
00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:25,610
PROPOSAL ONE.

813
00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:26,912
I'M ONE OF A VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO

814
00:22:26,912 --> 00:22:27,713
WOULD SAY THAT.

815
00:22:27,713 --> 00:22:29,448
>> 120%.

816
00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:32,417
>> FOUR YEARS LATER I HAD COFFEE

817
00:22:32,417 --> 00:22:34,052
IN SOUTHFIELD AND SAID I'M

818
00:22:34,052 --> 00:22:35,354
WILLING TO TAKE UNPOPULAR

819
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:36,922
STANCES AND I KNOW MOST OF THE

820
00:22:36,922 --> 00:22:38,490
PEOPLE IN ROOM VOTED AGAINST IT

821
00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:40,158
BUT THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST

822
00:22:40,158 --> 00:22:41,593
REALISTIC WAY TO GET ROAD

823
00:22:41,593 --> 00:22:43,095
FUNDING AND ONE GUY IN THE BACK

824
00:22:43,095 --> 00:22:45,764
GOES I VOTED FOR IT SO AT LEAST

825
00:22:45,764 --> 00:22:46,164
I HAD HIM.

826
00:22:46,164 --> 00:22:49,167
>> YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT BUT YOU

827
00:22:49,167 --> 00:22:51,937
MIGHT NOT LIKE IT BUT WOULD YOU

828
00:22:51,937 --> 00:22:53,939
VTE FOR A STOP GAP BUDGET IF

829
00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:55,173
THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION FOR

830
00:22:55,173 --> 00:22:57,142
KEEPING THINGS GOING COME

831
00:22:57,142 --> 00:22:57,676
OCTOBER 1ST?

832
00:22:57,676 --> 00:22:59,911
>> EXPAND ON THAT.

833
00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:02,214
>> CONTINUATION BUDGET.

834
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:04,182
>> YEAH, I WOULD SAY -- I DON'T

835
00:23:04,182 --> 00:23:05,283
THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE,

836
00:23:05,283 --> 00:23:06,952
I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET TO A

837
00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:09,654
POINT WE WILL HAVE TO DO A

838
00:23:09,654 --> 00:23:10,122
CONTINUATION BUDGET.

839
00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:12,224
>> SO ONE PENNY SALES TAX HIKE

840
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:12,691
YOU WOULD LIKE THAT.

841
00:23:12,691 --> 00:23:14,059
>> PUTTING IT UP TO THE VOTERS

842
00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:15,560
TO DECIDE YES SO THE PROBLEM

843
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,596
WITH THAT PROP ONE CAMPAIGN

844
00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:18,864
THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS THEY

845
00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:21,099
WERE TALKING ABOUT AND LOOK TO

846
00:23:21,099 --> 00:23:22,067
MY SOUTHFIELD CITY COUNCIL DAYS

847
00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:25,370
WE HAD A ROAD FUNDING CRISIS AS

848
00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:27,939
A COUNCIL COUNSEL MEMBER I PUT

849
00:23:27,939 --> 00:23:30,242
99 INTO ROADS OVER 11 YEARS BIG

850
00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:31,977
CHUNK OF MONEY BIG INVESTMENT

851
00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:33,211
VOTERS SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE WE

852
00:23:33,211 --> 00:23:34,446
TOLD THEM IT WAS GOING TO FIX

853
00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,214
THE ROADS AND IN SOUTHFIELD WE

854
00:23:36,214 --> 00:23:37,916
GOT MORE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAN

855
00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:39,684
ANY OTHER CITY IN OAKLAND COUNTY

856
00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:41,052
SO IT'S ABOUT TRUST AND WHEN WE

857
00:23:41,052 --> 00:23:42,454
SAY WE ARE GOING TO DEDICATE

858
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:44,389
YOUR TAXES TOWARDS ROAD FUNDING

859
00:23:44,389 --> 00:23:47,125
IT GOES TOWARDS ROAD FUNDING SO

860
00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:48,627
IF VOTERS REALLY BELIEVE THE GAS

861
00:23:48,627 --> 00:23:51,229
TAX IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS ROADS

862
00:23:51,229 --> 00:23:52,697
AND INCREASE THE SALES TAX TO

863
00:23:52,697 --> 00:23:54,733
KIND OF BACKFILL THAT WHICH WAS

864
00:23:54,733 --> 00:23:56,334
PROP ONE THEN THEY WILL SUPPORT

865
00:23:56,334 --> 00:23:57,536
IT.

866
00:23:57,536 --> 00:23:58,303
THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE IT FOUR

867
00:23:58,303 --> 00:23:58,804
YEARS AGO.

868
00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,906
>> SO YOU WOULD THEN INTRODUCE A

869
00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:03,375
GAS TAX INCREASE IF THAT MEANT

870
00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:04,543
THAT MAYBE IT STARTS DISCUSSIONS

871
00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:06,211
ON MAYBE ONE OF THESE PROPOSAL

872
00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:07,379
ONE TYPE THINGS WHERE YOU COULD

873
00:24:07,379 --> 00:24:09,915
VOTE FOR THIS OR YOU CAN VOTE

874
00:24:09,915 --> 00:24:11,783
FOR A ONE PENNY SALES TAX

875
00:24:11,783 --> 00:24:13,051
INCREASE EITHER WAY IT WOULD GO

876
00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:13,385
TO THE ROADS.

877
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:14,953
>> THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN PITCH

878
00:24:14,953 --> 00:24:17,222
TO VOTERS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

879
00:24:17,222 --> 00:24:19,157
HAVE TO MAKE A REVENUE

880
00:24:19,157 --> 00:24:20,759
GENERATING SYSTEM THAT GOES

881
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,094
TOWARDS ROADS BECAUSE DOING

882
00:24:23,094 --> 00:24:24,830
NOTHING IS LITERALLY MAKING OUR

883
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:27,098
ROADS CRUMBLE SO THE BIGGEST

884
00:24:27,098 --> 00:24:28,767
PROBLEM IS THAT YOU KNOW THE

885
00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:29,901
GOVERNOR SAYS 45 CENTS IS GOING

886
00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:31,937
TO RAISE 2.5 BILLION.

887
00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:33,638
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LESS NEXT

888
00:24:33,638 --> 00:24:34,973
YEAR, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LESS

889
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,876
THE NEXT YEAR, I TALKED TO A

890
00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:39,611
FISCAL ANALYST WHO HAS KIND OF

891
00:24:39,611 --> 00:24:41,680
BEEN WATCHING SOME OF THIS STUFF

892
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,250
FROM AFFAIR AND IF GOVERNOR

893
00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,551
SNYDER HAD TEN CENT INCREASE WE

894
00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:48,420
WOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT 45

895
00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:49,521
CENTS THIS YEAR SO IT'S NOT

896
00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:50,755
GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT GOES

897
00:24:50,755 --> 00:24:50,956
AWAY.

898
00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:52,557
THE ROADS ARE NOT GOING TO FIX

899
00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:54,259
THEMSELVES SO WE GOT TO FIGURE

900
00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:56,595
OUT WHAT IS THAT REVENUE STREAM,

901
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,929
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND HOW

902
00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:00,198
DO WE GET IT TO ROADS AND 500

903
00:25:00,198 --> 00:25:02,200
MILLION ONCE AIN'T GOING TO DO

904
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,868
IT TIM.

905
00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:03,401
>> I'M SORRY.

906
00:25:03,401 --> 00:25:05,737
>> GO AHEAD I WAS GOING TO PIVOT

907
00:25:05,737 --> 00:25:06,338
TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

908
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:09,307
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF

909
00:25:09,307 --> 00:25:11,076
THIS GOES TO THE BALLOT ROAD

910
00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:14,679
FUNDING GOES TO THE BALLOT HOW

911
00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:17,115
DOES HAVING STATEWIDE ELECTIONS,

912
00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:18,450
FEDERAL OFFICES, PRESIDENTIAL

913
00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:19,885
ELECTION ON THE BALLOT

914
00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:20,685
COMPLICATE THAT SALES JOB THAT

915
00:25:20,685 --> 00:25:22,320
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

916
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,922
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PEOPLE

917
00:25:23,922 --> 00:25:26,258
WILL BE COMING OUT AND VOTING

918
00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:28,960
AND IN MY STANCE BACK IN THAT

919
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,695
2015 ROAD FUNDING PROPOSAL IS IF

920
00:25:30,695 --> 00:25:33,765
WE SAID PROPOSAL ONE FIXES THE

921
00:25:33,765 --> 00:25:35,534
ROADS IF THAT WAS THE SLOGAN

922
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:36,935
INSTEAD OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS

923
00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:38,370
THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE WE WOULD

924
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:39,604
HAVE VOTED FOR IT AS A STATE.

925
00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:42,073
>> SENATOR, I HAVE TO INTERRUPT

926
00:25:42,073 --> 00:25:43,942
WILL YOU STAY FOR OVER TIME?

927
00:25:43,942 --> 00:25:44,342
>> ABSOLUTELY.

928
00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:45,977
>> I'LL GIVE YOU THE FIRST

929
00:25:45,977 --> 00:25:46,611
QUESTION, IS THAT A DEAL.

930
00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:47,178
>> YES.

931
00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:49,848
>> THERE YOU GO STAY TUNED WKAR

932
00:25:49,848 --> 00:25:51,182
WITH OVER TIME WITH SENATOR MOSS

933
00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:54,853
AND LOOK AT THE CLOSED CREDITS.

934
00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:56,888
PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD BY

935
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,490
A GRANT FROM VAN GUARD PUBLIC

936
00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:00,025
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937
00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:02,193
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938
00:26:02,193 --> 00:26:03,929
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939
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:05,297
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940
00:26:05,297 --> 00:26:07,432
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941
00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:09,501
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942
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943
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944
00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:14,306
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945
00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:15,774
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946
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947
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,376
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948
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949
00:26:23,081 --> 00:26:24,649
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950
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951
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952
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953
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