WEBVTT 00:04.800 --> 00:04.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% . 00:04.966 --> 00:06.700 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: WELCOME BACK TO THE STATE 00:06.700 --> 00:08.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BUDGET WRAP-UP EDITION OF "OFF 00:08.500 --> 00:09.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RECORD." 00:09.333 --> 00:10.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEAD STORY, RECORD 81 BILLION 00:10.966 --> 00:12.766 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS GOING INTO 00:12.766 --> 00:15.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOTS OF STATE PROGRAMS. 00:15.100 --> 00:18.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THE OTR PANEL, DAVE BOUCHER, 00:18.900 --> 00:20.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ZOE CLARK AND BILL BALLENGER 00:20.033 --> 00:25.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SITTING WITH US AS WE GET THE 00:25.466 --> 00:27.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INSIDE-OUT, OFF THE RECORD. 00:27.533 --> 00:29.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ANNOUNCER: PRODUCTION OF "OFF 00:29.100 --> 00:29.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RECORD" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN 00:29.866 --> 00:38.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PART BY -- 00:38.933 --> 00:41.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND NOW, THIS EDITION OF "OFF 00:41.966 --> 00:43.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RECORD" WITH TIM SKUBICK. 00:43.466 --> 00:44.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 00:44.233 --> 00:46.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WELCOME BACK TO STUDIO C ON 00:46.200 --> 00:48.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS, WHAT IS IT? 00:48.533 --> 00:50.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE LEGISLATURE IS GONE! 00:50.666 --> 00:51.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IT'S JULY. 00:51.266 --> 00:53.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEY LEFT BEHIND A LOT OF 00:53.266 --> 00:55.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUDGET SPENDING. 00:55.000 --> 00:57.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 81 BILLION BUCKS, WHERE IS YOUR 00:57.433 --> 00:58.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MONEY GOING? 00:58.133 --> 00:59.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SOMEBODY JOKED LAST NIGHT IT 00:59.500 --> 01:01.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS CHRISTMAS IN JULY AS 01:01.300 --> 01:03.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAWMAKERS DOLED OUT TAX DOLLARS 01:03.033 --> 01:05.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO THE TUNE OF 81 BILLION AND 01:05.133 --> 01:05.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOOSE CHANGE. 01:05.766 --> 01:07.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HERE'S A PARTIAL LIST OF THE 01:07.900 --> 01:09.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ITEMS ON THE 1600 PAGE STATE 01:09.333 --> 01:10.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUDGET COMPILED BY THE 01:10.800 --> 01:11.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 01:11.733 --> 01:13.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHE AND THE SPECIAL INTEREST 01:13.333 --> 01:14.966 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GROUPS THAT GOT A BIG CHUNK OF 01:14.966 --> 01:17.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE SPENDING APPLAUDED THE 01:17.500 --> 01:18.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FIRST DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED 01:18.800 --> 01:21.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATE BUDGET IN 40 YEARS. 01:21.366 --> 01:22.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOLKIDS WILL DIVVY UP PART 01:22.600 --> 01:25.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF A $24.3 BILLION STATE 01:25.633 --> 01:26.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FUNDING PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC 01:26.800 --> 01:30.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SCHOOLS, INCLUDING 160 MILLION 01:30.366 --> 01:31.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR LUNCH AND BREAKFAST 01:31.933 --> 01:34.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROGRAM, 320 MILLION TO BEEF UP 01:34.033 --> 01:35.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOL SECURITY AND OTHER 01:35.700 --> 01:38.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS. 01:38.433 --> 01:45.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 5,600 PRESCHOOLKIDS GET FREE 01:45.166 --> 01:46.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRESCHOOL EDUCATION. 01:46.433 --> 01:47.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICANS DID NOT VOTE FOR 01:47.666 --> 01:50.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE PACKAGE INCLUDING $9,700 01:50.700 --> 01:52.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR EVERY SCHOOLKID ON THE 01:52.566 --> 01:52.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATE. 01:52.833 --> 01:54.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON ANOTHER FRONT, INCREASE IN 01:54.300 --> 01:57.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HIGHER EDUCATION OF $112 01:57.633 --> 01:59.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MILLION TO BEEF UP SECURITY ON 01:59.866 --> 02:00.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAMPUSES. 02:00.233 --> 02:02.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% $3 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT GUN 02:02.166 --> 02:03.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VIOLENCE PROTECTION PROGRAMS 02:03.700 --> 02:05.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND THE STATE WILL TRAIN 02:05.766 --> 02:07.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOPEFULLY 50 NEW STATE POLICE 02:07.433 --> 02:08.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OFFICERS AND BUY $14 MILLION 02:08.933 --> 02:10.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WORTH OF BODY CAMERAS FOR 02:10.633 --> 02:12.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRISON CORRECTION OFFICERS. 02:12.133 --> 02:15.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAWMAKERS APPROVED $950 MILLION 02:15.100 --> 02:17.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FOR PET PROJECTS, SOME CALL IT 02:17.200 --> 02:18.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PORK BARREL SPENDING. 02:18.700 --> 02:20.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> CAN'T FACE MY NEIGHBORS AND 02:20.200 --> 02:21.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXPLAIN WHY THEY NEED TO PAY 02:21.900 --> 02:23.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR COLLEGE, CHILD CARE AND 02:23.433 --> 02:26.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CHILD DELIVERY COSTS WHILE 02:26.633 --> 02:31.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRISONERS WILL BE AFFORDED FREE 02:31.633 --> 02:34.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TUITION ON A POET LAUREATE WHO 02:34.133 --> 02:35.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DOES I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT. 02:35.600 --> 02:38.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THE BULK OF THE 81 BILLION 02:38.100 --> 02:39.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHE'LL SIGN. 02:39.066 --> 02:41.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S ABOUT 9,000 BUCKS FOR 02:41.800 --> 02:43.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVERY PERSON IN OUR STATE. 02:43.066 --> 02:46.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: ALL RIGHT, SO GREAT PANEL 02:46.533 --> 02:48.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THIS SPARKLING 4th OF JULY 02:48.133 --> 02:48.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WEEKEND. 02:48.366 --> 02:50.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A SPIFFY HEADLINE OUT OF THE 02:50.033 --> 02:51.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUDGET, DAVID. 02:51.033 --> 02:53.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> HISTORIC, BIPARTISAN BUDGET 02:53.066 --> 02:53.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HIGHLIGHTS DEMOCRATIC NEEDS. 02:53.833 --> 02:55.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IF YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY 02:55.600 --> 02:58.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POOL, YOU'RE DOING REALLY WELL. 02:58.233 --> 02:58.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% [LAUGHTER] 02:58.500 --> 03:00.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> YOU'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT. 03:00.133 --> 03:03.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DON'T TURN OFF YET, OKAY, 03:03.266 --> 03:03.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOLKS? 03:03.733 --> 03:04.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> DEMOCRATS IN CHARGE, REMAIN 03:04.900 --> 03:07.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN CHARGE AND ACTING LIKE 03:07.133 --> 03:08.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY'RE IN CHARGE. 03:08.333 --> 03:11.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SOME REPUBLICAN APPLAUSE FOR 03:11.166 --> 03:12.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRAT STATE BUDGET. 03:12.300 --> 03:15.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: HOUSE REPUBLICANS BLOW IT 03:15.633 --> 03:17.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON SCHOOL AID BILL. 03:17.266 --> 03:18.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I LIKE THAT. 03:18.500 --> 03:20.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IT STILL PASSED AND PASSED 03:20.600 --> 03:21.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. 03:21.100 --> 03:22.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: YOU TELL ME, PLEASE, HOW 03:22.700 --> 03:25.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAN A REPUBLICAN WHO VOTED NO 03:25.400 --> 03:30.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THE SCHOOL AID BUDGET, $9700 03:30.366 --> 03:32.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CALL FOLKS AND SAY I VOTED NO 03:32.266 --> 03:34.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THAT, DAVID. 03:34.133 --> 03:35.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAN THEY DO THAT? 03:35.333 --> 03:36.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THE OPPOSITION FROM SOME 03:36.933 --> 03:38.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOUSE REPUBLICANS IS FOCUSED ON 03:38.866 --> 03:40.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE SCHOOL MEAL PROGRAM, AND 03:40.466 --> 03:42.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROGRAM TO ALLOCATE $125 03:42.533 --> 03:43.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MILLION FOR QUOTE, UNQUOTE 03:43.500 --> 03:44.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CLEAN BUSES. 03:44.600 --> 03:46.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THE IDEA 03:46.433 --> 03:48.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT BUSES, LIKE ELECTRIC BUSES 03:48.233 --> 03:51.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DON'T WORK, AND COSTLY AND NOT 03:51.033 --> 03:51.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. 03:51.966 --> 03:56.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: I'M VOTING NO ON $9700 FOR 03:56.266 --> 03:56.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PUPILS. 03:56.600 --> 03:58.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SEEING PEOPLE VOTE NO FOR 03:58.200 --> 03:59.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SMALL OR LARGE REASONS. 03:59.800 --> 04:01.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THE SCHOOL MEALS, SEEN 04:01.300 --> 04:02.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PUSHBACK ON THE IDEA THAT 04:02.766 --> 04:04.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FAMILIES THAT AFFORD MEALS ARE 04:04.333 --> 04:06.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GETTING FREE MEALS. 04:06.766 --> 04:08.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% $160 MILLION IN A MASSIVE 04:08.900 --> 04:09.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUDGET. 04:09.200 --> 04:12.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THOSE ARE TWO POINTS PUSHING 04:12.400 --> 04:13.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BACK ON THE BUDGET. 04:13.200 --> 04:14.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THERE'S ONE MORE VOTE ON THE 04:14.866 --> 04:16.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOL AID BUDGET BEFORE THE 04:16.200 --> 04:19.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NEXT ELECTION, RIGHT? 04:19.166 --> 04:23.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SO BY NEXT YEAR -- 04:23.033 --> 04:23.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEMSELVES? 04:23.500 --> 04:24.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> TALKING POINTS WHAT YOU NEED 04:24.933 --> 04:25.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO USE. 04:25.900 --> 04:27.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE BUDGET GOT DONE WITH 04:27.133 --> 04:27.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IMMEDIATE EFFECT. 04:27.966 --> 04:29.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES BY 04:29.100 --> 04:30.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JULY 1 KNOW WHAT THE MONEY IS 04:30.866 --> 04:32.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING TO BE, AND LET'S DECIDE 04:32.300 --> 04:34.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN A FEW MONTHS IS THAT WHAT 04:34.966 --> 04:37.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT 04:37.000 --> 04:37.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ANYMORE? 04:37.266 --> 04:40.433 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PLAYS IN 04:40.433 --> 04:41.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MARGINAL DISTRICTS AND THERE 04:41.400 --> 04:43.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARE MORE OF THEM NOW BECAUSE OF 04:43.633 --> 04:43.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REDISTRICTING. 04:43.966 --> 04:47.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE VOTES WILL PLAY WELL WITH 04:47.166 --> 04:49.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEIR COUNTY REPUBLICAN 04:49.333 --> 04:50.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES. 04:50.400 --> 04:51.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: BUT THEY DON'T VOTE? 04:51.700 --> 04:54.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL, THEY DO AND THEY PLAY 04:54.133 --> 04:56.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A BIG DEAL IN NOMINATING PEOPLE 04:56.166 --> 04:57.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO GO BEFORE VOTERS. 04:57.633 --> 05:00.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: I'M GOING TO GUESS HOUSE 05:00.366 --> 05:01.966 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SPEAKER JOE TATE DISCUSSED THE 05:01.966 --> 05:03.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ISSUE OF RUNNING COMMERCIALS AT 05:03.633 --> 05:04.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SWING DISTRICTS. 05:04.466 --> 05:07.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT BET. 05:07.600 --> 05:08.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THAT MR. TISDALE IS THE 05:08.933 --> 05:10.833 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ONLY ONE WHO VOTED YES ON THIS 05:10.833 --> 05:11.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THING. 05:11.166 --> 05:12.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY'RE GOING TO RUN AN AD AND 05:12.633 --> 05:14.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAY THEY HAD A CHANCE TO 05:14.133 --> 05:16.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SUPPORT YOUR SCHOOLKID AND THEY 05:16.733 --> 05:16.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WALKED. 05:16.966 --> 05:18.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IF A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR 05:18.866 --> 05:20.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAN'T EXPLAIN HIS NO VOTE ON 05:20.400 --> 05:22.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE BILL, HE OR SHE DOESN'T 05:22.566 --> 05:24.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DESERVE TO BE RE-ELECTED. 05:24.966 --> 05:25.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS HAVE VOTED NO ON 05:25.933 --> 05:27.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOL AID BILLS BEFORE, AND 05:27.366 --> 05:29.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY'VE BEEN BIG, AND THEY HAD 05:29.100 --> 05:30.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEIR REASONS AND REPUBLICANS 05:30.766 --> 05:32.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DO HAVE REASONS AND THEY CAN 05:32.066 --> 05:32.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXPLAIN THEM. 05:32.733 --> 05:35.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU EVER 05:35.500 --> 05:37.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAW A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR 05:37.466 --> 05:40.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEFEATED BECAUSE HE VOTED NO OR 05:40.133 --> 05:42.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SHE VOTED NO ON THE SCHOOL AID 05:42.900 --> 05:43.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUDGET. 05:43.133 --> 05:44.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WE'VE NEVER SEEN A FOCUSED 05:44.466 --> 05:47.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ATTEMPT TO DO THAT AS THE 05:47.166 --> 05:50.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS HANG ON BY THEIR 05:50.133 --> 05:51.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THUMBNAILS TO KEEP CONTROL? 05:51.033 --> 05:51.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HE'LL TRY. 05:51.766 --> 05:54.233 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> TO BILL'S POINT, THAT'S THE 05:54.233 --> 05:56.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FASCINATING PART OF ALL OF 05:56.233 --> 05:56.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS. 05:56.433 --> 05:57.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE FIRST ALL-DEMOCRATIC BUDGET 05:57.533 --> 05:59.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN 40 YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE A 05:59.866 --> 06:02.466 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LOT OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF 06:02.466 --> 06:05.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICANS VOTING NO ON AN 06:05.666 --> 06:07.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALL-DEMOCRATIC BILL. 06:07.200 --> 06:09.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN 06:09.533 --> 06:12.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SPECIFIC VOTES USED IN 06:12.033 --> 06:14.233 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CAMPAIGNS TO UNSEAT INCUMBENTS 06:14.233 --> 06:15.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SUCCESSFULLY USED. 06:15.533 --> 06:16.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WELL, ABSOLUTELY. 06:16.966 --> 06:17.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE 06:17.800 --> 06:21.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOL AID, IT'S LOTS OF BILLS. 06:21.233 --> 06:24.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: BILLS, I'M SURPRISED BY 06:24.100 --> 06:27.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU, YOU ARE SANGUINE ABOUT THE 06:27.300 --> 06:29.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHOLE THING. 06:29.000 --> 06:31.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SARAH LEITNER AND LEAD 06:31.766 --> 06:34.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE, JOHN 06:34.633 --> 06:34.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BALMSTED. 06:34.933 --> 06:35.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THEY VOTED YES. 06:35.600 --> 06:37.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEY APPLAUDED THE BUDGET 06:37.966 --> 06:38.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OVERALL. 06:38.200 --> 06:40.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE 06:40.000 --> 06:41.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE DIVISION REPUBLICAN THE 06:41.333 --> 06:43.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN PARTY, AGAIN, AS ZOE 06:43.500 --> 06:45.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JUST POINTED OUT, THIS IS THE 06:45.433 --> 06:48.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FIRST TIME YOU'VE SEEN AN 06:48.266 --> 06:50.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALL-DEMOCRATIC BUDGET IN 40 06:50.533 --> 06:52.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEARS, SO WE'RE A NEW 06:52.100 --> 06:52.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TERRITORY. 06:52.400 --> 06:53.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POLITICIANS BEING WHAT THEY ARE 06:53.833 --> 06:56.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND LOOKING AT THE PAST, THIS 06:56.000 --> 06:58.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE 06:58.600 --> 07:00.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EXPLAINED BY THE CANDIDATES ON 07:00.500 --> 07:02.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE GROUND AND, AS ZOE POINTED 07:02.666 --> 07:04.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OUT, ANOTHER BUDGET NEXT YEAR. 07:04.100 --> 07:05.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO 07:05.500 --> 07:07.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOTE, WE'VE SEEN FOR YEAR, LOTS 07:07.133 --> 07:08.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST 07:08.633 --> 07:09.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICANS, POINT OUT THEY 07:09.333 --> 07:11.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DON'T THINK THERE IS A 07:11.100 --> 07:12.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CORRELATION WITH MONEY GOING TO 07:12.233 --> 07:13.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DISTRICTS AND HIGHER 07:13.333 --> 07:14.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES. 07:14.866 --> 07:15.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RIGHT? 07:15.233 --> 07:16.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE'VE SEEN REPUBLICANS TALK 07:16.200 --> 07:18.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABOUT VOUCHERS OR CHARTERS OR 07:18.700 --> 07:20.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IDEAS THAT GO BEYOND WHAT 07:20.800 --> 07:21.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OPPONENTS CONSIDER THROWING 07:21.400 --> 07:22.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MONEY AT SOMETHING. 07:22.600 --> 07:25.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IF WE'RE HERE NEXT YEAR AND SEE 07:25.200 --> 07:27.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TEST SCORES THAT AREN'T BETTER, 07:27.300 --> 07:28.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU CAN SEE HOUSE REPUBLICANS 07:28.066 --> 07:29.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAY SEE, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO 07:29.433 --> 07:29.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS. 07:29.833 --> 07:31.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT 07:31.700 --> 07:33.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PROGRAMS, NOT JUST GIVING MORE 07:33.900 --> 07:34.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MONEY PER STUDENT. 07:34.966 --> 07:36.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S SPECULATION, AND COULD 07:36.300 --> 07:37.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SEE MASSIVE IMPROVEMENTS, 07:37.900 --> 07:38.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RIGHT? 07:38.166 --> 07:40.400 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE'VE ABSOLUTELY HEARD LOTS OF 07:40.400 --> 07:41.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE 07:41.433 --> 07:42.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DIVERGENCE BETWEEN FUNDING AND 07:42.866 --> 07:43.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OUTCOMES. 07:43.166 --> 07:44.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 07:44.366 --> 07:47.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STRUCK ME LISTENING TO SARAH 07:47.766 --> 07:49.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LEITNER'S COMMENTS WAS, YOU GO 07:49.600 --> 07:52.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BACK TO THE DAYS BEFORE TERM 07:52.766 --> 07:53.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LIMITS. 07:53.033 --> 07:54.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE'RE TALKING -- 07:54.366 --> 07:55.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: SHE IS THE RANKING 07:55.700 --> 07:57.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN ON THE 07:57.066 --> 07:58.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. 07:58.000 --> 08:00.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WHO PUBLICLY PRAISED THE 08:00.333 --> 08:02.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROCESS SAYING THAT DEMOCRATS 08:02.333 --> 08:04.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DI BRING REPUBLICANS IN, WHICH 08:04.300 --> 08:08.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS THE OPPOSITE MESSAGING -- 08:08.733 --> 08:11.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WILDERNESS ON THAT. 08:11.200 --> 08:12.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THE OPPOSITE FROM THE 08:12.300 --> 08:13.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP, BUT 08:13.833 --> 08:16.833 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THERE WAS A TIME, DURING TIGHT 08:16.833 --> 08:18.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAJORITIES WHERE THERE WERE 08:18.066 --> 08:19.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SORT OF THREE CAUCUSES, 08:19.866 --> 08:20.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ESPECIALLY ON THE HOUSE SIDE, 08:20.800 --> 08:22.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHICH WAS REPUBLICANS, 08:22.266 --> 08:24.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS AND APPROPRIATIONS. 08:24.100 --> 08:27.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND APPROPRIATIONS IS, WHERE 08:27.033 --> 08:28.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE DEALS WERE MADE. 08:28.266 --> 08:29.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THERE WAS ALSO A TIME WHEN 08:29.900 --> 08:32.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON 08:32.900 --> 08:35.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% APPROPRIATIONS SAID TO THE 08:35.300 --> 08:37.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BODY, THIS IS A GOOD PIECE OF 08:37.500 --> 08:39.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEGISLATION, AND WHAT WOULD 08:39.933 --> 08:41.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVERYBODY DO? 08:41.666 --> 08:41.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AYE. 08:41.833 --> 08:43.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THOSE TIMES ARE GONE, IN THE 08:43.000 --> 08:44.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, THEY HAVE A 08:44.366 --> 08:47.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MIND OF THEIR OWN, DON'T 08:47.133 --> 08:49.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS, MY 08:49.233 --> 08:53.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MIND IS MADE UP, SOME WOULD 08:53.500 --> 08:53.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARGUE. 08:53.733 --> 08:57.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THERE IS THE CAUCUS, THE 08:57.166 --> 08:59.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MATT MADDUX WHO IS ALLERGIC TO 08:59.633 --> 09:00.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, 09:00.533 --> 09:01.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHICH IS A BUDGET HAPPENS, 09:01.733 --> 09:03.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU 09:03.400 --> 09:05.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VOTE FOR IT, AND THAT'S WHAT 09:05.100 --> 09:06.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU DO BECAUSE THE FULL FAITH 09:06.300 --> 09:08.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND CREDIT OF THE STATE OF 09:08.466 --> 09:09.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN AND THE ECONOM AND, 09:09.866 --> 09:12.466 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT THAT 09:12.466 --> 09:15.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS THIS MODERN-DAY POLITICS, 09:15.300 --> 09:16.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHICH WE FIND OURSELVES IN 09:16.933 --> 09:17.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 2023. 09:17.333 --> 09:18.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S NOT SIMPLY ONLY IN THE 09:18.566 --> 09:20.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN 09:20.466 --> 09:20.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN. 09:20.766 --> 09:23.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 09:23.033 --> 09:24.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> LOOK AT SPLIT BETWEEN THE 09:24.333 --> 09:27.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEADERSHIP IN BOTH THE HOUSE 09:27.033 --> 09:29.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND SENATE AND THE 09:29.666 --> 09:31.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE HEADS. 09:31.900 --> 09:34.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE LAST OF IT, HE APPOINTED 09:34.400 --> 09:37.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SARAH LEITNER, SHE APPLAUDS IT. 09:37.300 --> 09:39.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OVER IN THE SENATE, I HAVEN'T 09:39.500 --> 09:42.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SEEN ANYTHING FROM ERIC 09:42.533 --> 09:43.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NESBITT. 09:43.233 --> 09:45.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BALMSTED, HE CAME OUT AND SAID 09:45.100 --> 09:46.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD 09:46.666 --> 09:48.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN IDEAS IN THIS THING, 09:48.600 --> 09:50.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND IT ISN'T BAD. 09:50.366 --> 09:52.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: MORE SUPPORT IN THE SENATE 09:52.300 --> 09:54.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FOR THE K-12 BUDGET THAN THERE 09:54.633 --> 09:55.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS IN THE HOUSE. 09:55.200 --> 09:59.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WE HEAR THIS EVERY YEAR AND 09:59.200 --> 10:02.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP SAY 10:02.100 --> 10:03.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS, RANK AND FILE 10:03.700 --> 10:04.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LAWMAKERS HAVE HOURS TO REVIEW 10:04.866 --> 10:06.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF 10:06.466 --> 10:09.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PAGES AND ASKED TO VOTE ON IT. 10:09.066 --> 10:10.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND HEARD THE SAME COMPLAINT 10:10.866 --> 10:12.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FROM HOUSE REPUBLICANS THIS 10:12.366 --> 10:13.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIME AROUND. 10:13.166 --> 10:15.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I THINK ALL OF US, AND CITIZENS 10:15.833 --> 10:17.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAN RELATE TO THE IDEA, THAT IF 10:17.800 --> 10:19.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU'RE ASKED TO MAKE A BIG 10:19.433 --> 10:20.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DECISION ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS 10:20.600 --> 10:22.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND YOU AREN'T PART OF THE 10:22.800 --> 10:24.400 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PROCESS OR AT LEAST NOT ON THE 10:24.400 --> 10:25.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INSIDE UNTIL AN HOUR LATER, YOU 10:25.900 --> 10:27.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 10:27.600 --> 10:29.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I THINK CITIZENS ARE COMPLETELY 10:29.266 --> 10:30.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RIGHT IN THESE AREAS TO SAY 10:30.433 --> 10:32.233 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, 10:32.233 --> 10:32.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RIGHT? 10:32.466 --> 10:33.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU TRUST YOUR LAWMAKER TO KNOW 10:33.933 --> 10:36.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT'S GOING ON IN LANSING. 10:36.166 --> 10:37.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IF THE LAWMAKER GETS AN HOUR 10:37.900 --> 10:40.933 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND A HALF TO READ A 1600-PAGE 10:40.933 --> 10:41.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BILL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S 10:41.733 --> 10:42.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 10:42.466 --> 10:44.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED 10:44.033 --> 10:44.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THE BUDGET. 10:44.700 --> 10:46.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> IT'S COMPLETELY FAIR TO NOT 10:46.866 --> 10:49.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WANT LAWMAKER TO DEFER, YOU 10:49.666 --> 10:51.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S 10:51.000 --> 10:51.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN THE BUDGET. 10:51.700 --> 10:53.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND LOTS OF POLICY MAKING IN 10:53.400 --> 10:57.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE LEGISLATURE, DO YOU, AS A 10:57.100 --> 10:59.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRACTICAL MATTER, HAVE TO DEFER 10:59.066 --> 11:00.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO YOUR POINT PEOPLE ON 11:00.933 --> 11:02.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PARTICULAR ISSUES AND THE 11:02.200 --> 11:03.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EXPECTATION IS THAT LEADERSHIP 11:03.533 --> 11:05.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ARE GOING TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO 11:05.866 --> 11:07.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMMITTEES AND LEADERSHIP 11:07.700 --> 11:11.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POSITIONS WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE 11:11.200 --> 11:12.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADVICE TO THE CAUCUS THAT 11:12.433 --> 11:17.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MATCHES THE DESIRES OF THE 11:17.000 --> 11:17.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAUCUS. 11:17.233 --> 11:18.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: DREAMER. 11:18.700 --> 11:21.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS 11:21.433 --> 11:21.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HISTORICALLY. 11:21.800 --> 11:23.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: DREAMER. 11:23.266 --> 11:23.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% [ LAUGHTER ] 11:23.566 --> 11:25.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> INTERESTING STORY. 11:25.700 --> 11:27.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DONALD TRUMP WAS IN OUR STATE 11:27.666 --> 11:31.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN NOVI AND BEAT THE HECK OUT 11:31.033 --> 11:33.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF THE EV ISSUE. 11:33.133 --> 11:35.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TURNS OUT STRANGE BED PARTNERS, 11:35.466 --> 11:37.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DONALD TRUMP ON THE SAME PAGE 11:37.700 --> 11:41.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AS THE PRESIDENT ON THE UAW, 11:41.500 --> 11:41.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXPLAIN. 11:41.833 --> 11:44.433 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> TRYING TO PEEL OFF RANK AND 11:44.433 --> 11:46.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FILE, BLUE COLLAR WORKERS. 11:46.233 --> 11:49.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: YOU MEAN HE'S PATTERNING 11:49.433 --> 11:50.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR VOTES? 11:50.233 --> 11:53.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ABSOLUTELY, AND HE'S 11:53.100 --> 11:53.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SUCCESSFUL. 11:53.400 --> 11:54.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THE UAW PRESIDENT IS 11:54.833 --> 11:56.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SETTING UP A TEMPLATE TO GET 11:56.766 --> 11:59.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MORE OUT OF THE COMPANIES. 11:59.433 --> 12:01.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE STRANGE 12:01.733 --> 12:03.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BEDFELLOWS THING? 12:03.800 --> 12:05.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> IT HAPPENS AND DONALD TRUMP 12:05.900 --> 12:06.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% -- 12:06.033 --> 12:07.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WAIT A MINUTE, MR. TRUMP 12:07.900 --> 12:09.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS FOR EVs. 12:09.600 --> 12:10.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WELL, CONSISTENCY -- 12:10.833 --> 12:15.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THAT'S BEFORE HE WAS AGAINST 12:15.400 --> 12:15.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEM. 12:15.666 --> 12:17.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN. 12:17.533 --> 12:17.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEP. 12:17.766 --> 12:19.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> PART OF DONALD TRUMP'S 12:19.100 --> 12:21.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% APPEAL IS TO BLUE COLLAR, TO 12:21.133 --> 12:23.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BLUE COLLAR VOTERS. 12:23.466 --> 12:24.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: IS HE TRYING TO SCARE 12:24.600 --> 12:26.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEM, Z? 12:26.233 --> 12:27.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> LOOK, THERE'S GALLUP POLLING 12:27.900 --> 12:30.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT CAME OUT THAT SAYS 71% OF 12:30.666 --> 12:33.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICANS ABSOLUTELY SAY THEY 12:33.733 --> 12:35.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WILL NEVER BUY AN EV. 12:35.233 --> 12:38.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SO I MEAN I THINK IS IT 12:38.033 --> 12:38.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PANDERING? 12:38.666 --> 12:39.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SURE. 12:39.166 --> 12:41.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IS IT THROWING RED MEAT TO THE 12:41.533 --> 12:41.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BASE? 12:41.866 --> 12:43.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SURE, THAT'S WHO HE'S GOING TO 12:43.033 --> 12:44.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NEED TO TURN OUT. 12:44.033 --> 12:47.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I REMIND YOU, IN THE AUDIENCE 12:47.566 --> 12:53.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS A TUDOR DIXON, KRISTINA 12:53.066 --> 12:53.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% KARAMO. 12:53.866 --> 12:55.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WHOSE NAME HE 12:55.866 --> 12:56.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MISPRONOUNCED. 12:56.200 --> 12:59.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> RIGHT, BACK IN OCTOBER 12:59.200 --> 13:00.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RALLYING FOR AND DIDN'T WIN. 13:00.600 --> 13:03.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU CAN GO AFTER THE BOUTIQUE 13:03.300 --> 13:04.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ISSUES, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW 13:04.333 --> 13:06.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET 13:06.633 --> 13:08.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ENOUGH FOLKS TO TURN OUT. 13:08.966 --> 13:11.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HE'S NOT PAND ORG JUST TO 13:11.500 --> 13:14.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE BASE, HE'S PANDERING TO THE 13:14.666 --> 13:15.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WHOSE 13:15.833 --> 13:17.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VOTES ARE FLEEING THE 13:17.166 --> 13:19.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEGINNING IN 13:19.533 --> 13:19.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 2016. 13:19.733 --> 13:22.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT'S WHY HE WON MICHIGAN AND 13:22.000 --> 13:24.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVEN IN 2020, AND WANTS MORE OF 13:24.200 --> 13:24.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEM. 13:24.433 --> 13:26.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE KNOWS THE TIDE IS GOING IN 13:26.466 --> 13:29.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT DIRECTION FOR HIM, AND SO 13:29.033 --> 13:31.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE'S MILKING IT, AND HE CAME IN 13:31.366 --> 13:33.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HERE AND SAID THIS IS GOING TO 13:33.133 --> 13:33.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BE A DISASTER. 13:33.900 --> 13:34.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: LOST JOBS. 13:34.700 --> 13:36.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> LOST JOBS. 13:36.033 --> 13:37.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE ECONOMY. 13:37.200 --> 13:38.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE SAID YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW 13:38.900 --> 13:40.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BAD IT'S GOING TO BE. 13:40.633 --> 13:42.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I WOULD LOVE TO MEET THE 13:42.100 --> 13:43.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% VOTER WHO HASN'T MADE UP THEIR 13:43.733 --> 13:45.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MIND ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. 13:45.033 --> 13:46.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ONE 13:46.433 --> 13:48.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% VOTER IN AMERICA AND CERTAINLY 13:48.200 --> 13:50.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN MICHIGAN WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN 13:50.300 --> 13:51.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OPINION WHETHER OR NOT THEY 13:51.500 --> 13:52.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WOULD VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. 13:52.700 --> 13:53.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE THINKS 13:53.833 --> 13:56.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABOUT EVs, IF THERE'S A VOTER 13:56.333 --> 13:57.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHO MADE THEIR MIND BECAUSE OF 13:57.866 --> 13:59.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OPPOSITION TO EVs, I WOULD LOVE 13:59.866 --> 14:01.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO TALK TO THEM. 14:01.100 --> 14:02.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> I WASTED FIVE MINUTES ON AN 14:02.566 --> 14:04.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ISSUE THAT WAS IRREVEL? 14:04.433 --> 14:05.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> MONTHS OUT, AND HIS POSITION 14:05.900 --> 14:08.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON EVs, DO WE THINK THERE'S A 14:08.800 --> 14:10.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN THAT IS LIKE, I 14:10.466 --> 14:12.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WOULD VOTE FOR RON DeSANTIS, 14:12.200 --> 14:15.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUT I HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT EVs. 14:15.000 --> 14:17.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE'S A MODERATE IN THE 14:17.233 --> 14:19.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT FEELS THE 14:19.233 --> 14:20.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAY THEY FEEL ABOUT DONALD 14:20.466 --> 14:20.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TRUMP. 14:20.666 --> 14:22.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MAYBE THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT, 14:22.366 --> 14:23.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAYBE, UNDER A ROCK FOR EIGHT 14:23.866 --> 14:24.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEARS. 14:24.466 --> 14:27.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I DOUBT IT, BUT MAYBE THERE IS. 14:27.866 --> 14:30.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE CAN'T MAKE A MARKED 14:30.233 --> 14:30.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DIFFERENCE. 14:30.533 --> 14:32.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> CAN'T PICK UP ANY VOTES WITH 14:32.666 --> 14:33.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS ISSUE? 14:33.300 --> 14:35.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> 150,000 VOTES? 14:35.133 --> 14:37.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD NEED IN 14:37.666 --> 14:38.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN. 14:38.000 --> 14:40.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: I CAN'T WAIT TO ASK MADAM 14:40.366 --> 14:41.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GOVERNOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF 14:41.533 --> 14:44.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE UAW DUMPING ALL OVER YOUR 14:44.933 --> 14:46.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EV STRATEGY, GOVERNOR? 14:46.300 --> 14:48.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT DOES SHE SAY? 14:48.366 --> 14:49.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NEXT QUESTION? 14:49.300 --> 14:52.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THAT MAY BE THE WAY THAT HE 14:52.200 --> 14:55.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FEELS ABOUT THIS, BUT IT IS THE 14:55.066 --> 14:56.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FUTURE OF THE AUTOMOTIVE 14:56.466 --> 14:56.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INDUSTRY. 14:56.733 --> 14:58.233 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: SHE HASN'T SAID THAT, AND 14:58.233 --> 15:00.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MY GUESS IS IT'S GOING TO BE 15:00.333 --> 15:01.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CRICKETS ON THIS ISSUE. 15:01.433 --> 15:03.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE 15:03.100 --> 15:04.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS 15:04.200 --> 15:05.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS 15:05.433 --> 15:07.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAN THE ONES THAT WE SEE, BUT 15:07.800 --> 15:10.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 15:10.666 --> 15:11.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE THINGS THAT I THINK 15:11.933 --> 15:13.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AUTOMAKERS, THAT FOLKS WHO ARE 15:13.500 --> 15:14.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF 15:14.733 --> 15:17.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN KNOW, IS THAT IF 15:17.100 --> 15:20.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN IS GOING TO GET INTO 15:20.166 --> 15:21.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE ECONOMY AND THE 15:21.800 --> 15:22.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% KNOWLEDGE-BASED ECONOMY THAT 15:22.633 --> 15:24.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVs ARE WHERE THE FUTURE IS 15:24.766 --> 15:25.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING TO BE. 15:25.333 --> 15:27.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND THE ISSUE THAT THE UAW IS 15:27.466 --> 15:28.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GRAPPLING WITH RIGHT NOW IS 15:28.633 --> 15:30.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE ARE GOING TO BE JOBS THAT 15:30.500 --> 15:34.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARE LOST BECAUSE FEWER JOBS ARE 15:34.633 --> 15:36.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NEEDED TO BUILD EVs. 15:36.700 --> 15:38.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: LESS PARTS, LESS PEOPLE. 15:38.600 --> 15:40.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ARE WE GOING TO TEACH THE 15:40.733 --> 15:43.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NEXT GENERATION OF WORKERS HOW 15:43.333 --> 15:44.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TO DO THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND 15:44.300 --> 15:46.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE CODING TO BUILD THE NEXT 15:46.833 --> 15:47.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GENERATION. 15:47.133 --> 15:49.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S WHAT SHE'S PUTTING HER 15:49.533 --> 15:50.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EGGS IN THE BASKET ABOUT. 15:50.500 --> 15:51.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 15:51.433 --> 15:53.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IF FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS 15:53.433 --> 15:56.700 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FROM NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN 15:56.700 --> 15:58.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS TRAIL OF STUFF THAT ZOE 15:58.066 --> 16:00.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, THEN, 16:00.200 --> 16:02.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE COMPLAINT IS GOING TO BE 16:02.133 --> 16:03.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT THE STATE AND THE AUTO 16:03.966 --> 16:06.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INDUSTRY WAS LEFT BEHIND 16:06.833 --> 16:08.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BECAUSE THEY FELT A PLAN. 16:08.033 --> 16:09.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IT'S HAPPENING, EITHER GET 16:09.633 --> 16:10.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON BOARD AND CREATE THE JOBS 16:10.700 --> 16:13.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HERE TO DO IT OR LOSE OUT ON 16:13.400 --> 16:13.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE JOBS. 16:13.666 --> 16:15.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND THE LAYOFFS FROM FORD, 16:15.400 --> 16:17.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR EXAMPLE, ARE FROM WHITE 16:17.000 --> 16:18.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COLLAR JOBS, AND IN ADDITION, 16:18.666 --> 16:21.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TWO YEARS AGO AT MACKINAW, THE 16:21.033 --> 16:22.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOVERNOR AND FORD ANNOUNCED 16:22.500 --> 16:24.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY'RE INVESTIGATE MORE THAN A 16:24.033 --> 16:25.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BILLION DOLLARS IN FIVE PLANTS 16:25.566 --> 16:28.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CREATING 3,000 JOBS, ALL OF THE 16:28.100 --> 16:30.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% JOBS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HOURLY 16:30.633 --> 16:30.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JOBS. 16:30.933 --> 16:35.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE'S AN IDEA THE TRANSITION, 16:35.766 --> 16:37.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAPPENING AT LEAST FROM FORD, 16:37.733 --> 16:39.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IS FOCUSING ON GETTING SOME OF 16:39.633 --> 16:41.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY 16:41.600 --> 16:44.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING TO BE UAW JOBS INTO THE 16:44.666 --> 16:45.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRODUCTION. 16:45.000 --> 16:46.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHETHER THAT'S A LONG-TERM FIX 16:46.000 --> 16:47.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS COMPLETELY FAIR TO TALK 16:47.933 --> 16:49.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABOUT, BUT AT LEAST, WHEN WE 16:49.433 --> 16:50.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HEARD THE GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT 16:50.900 --> 16:52.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS, TALKING ABOUT HOURLY JOBS 16:52.800 --> 16:54.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONNECTED TO SOME OF THE 16:54.666 --> 16:54.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROJECTS. 16:54.933 --> 16:56.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WE HAD THE SPECTOR OF YOUR 16:56.700 --> 16:57.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PIECE ON THE PROBLEMS IN 16:57.566 --> 16:59.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MARSHALL WHERE THE LOCALS SAY 16:59.266 --> 17:00.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THANKS, BUT NO THANKS. 17:00.200 --> 17:02.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SURE, WE'VE SEEN THE 17:02.000 --> 17:03.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PUSHBACK, TO YOUR POINT, 17:03.300 --> 17:04.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE'S A LAWSUIT FILED, A 17:04.633 --> 17:06.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LITTLE CONVOLUTED BUT COMES 17:06.633 --> 17:07.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DOWN TO THE IDEA WHETHER OR NOT 17:07.666 --> 17:09.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LAND IN MARSHALL, WE CALL IT A 17:09.666 --> 17:11.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MEGA SITE, THE MASSIVE SITES 17:11.566 --> 17:15.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT ATTRACT BIG PLANTS LIKE 17:15.033 --> 17:16.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE BLUE OVAL BATTERY FACTORY, 17:16.800 --> 17:18.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHETHER IT IS USED FOR 17:18.800 --> 17:20.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 17:20.333 --> 17:21.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS COMMITTEE IN MARSHALL 17:21.533 --> 17:23.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARGUED THERE IS WIDESPREAD 17:23.033 --> 17:25.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PUBLIC DISCORD AND THEY OPPOSE 17:25.133 --> 17:25.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BRINGING IN SOMETHING LIKE 17:25.966 --> 17:27.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS, DUE TO ENVIRONMENTAL 17:27.633 --> 17:29.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONCERNS OR BECAUSE THIS LAND 17:29.566 --> 17:31.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO 17:31.000 --> 17:33.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGRICULTURE AND NOW GOING TO BE 17:33.500 --> 17:35.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A MASSIVE INDUSTRIAL FACTORY. 17:35.700 --> 17:37.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOCAL DEVELOPMENTAL OFFICIALS 17:37.066 --> 17:38.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND CITY OFFICIALS PUSH BACK, 17:38.966 --> 17:40.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SO DOES THE STATE. 17:40.800 --> 17:43.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE'VE SEEN SIMILAR PUSHBACK IN 17:43.066 --> 17:44.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RAPIDS FACILITY. 17:44.100 --> 17:47.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: A RECALL IS UNDER WAY TO 17:47.000 --> 17:48.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GET RID OF THE PEOPLE THAT MADE 17:48.366 --> 17:48.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE DECISION. 17:48.933 --> 17:50.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND I THINK ONE OF THE 17:50.733 --> 17:52.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FASCINATING NOTES IN ALL OF 17:52.700 --> 17:53.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS THAT YOU CAN'T NOT DISCUSS 17:53.866 --> 17:55.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS -- WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 17:55.733 --> 17:58.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STRANGE BEDFELLOWS, WE HAVE THE 17:58.200 --> 17:59.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS AND THE DEMOCRATIC 17:59.300 --> 18:01.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PARTY PUTTING UP TAX INCENTIVES 18:01.466 --> 18:03.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR HUGE COMPANIES, AND JUST 18:03.233 --> 18:04.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOW WE'RE SEEING -- 18:04.900 --> 18:06.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: AND REPUBLICANS VOTINGY. 18:06.866 --> 18:12.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND DEMOCRATS VOTING NO, 18:12.500 --> 18:12.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TOO. 18:12.700 --> 18:16.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OPPOSITION TO CORPORATE 18:16.533 --> 18:16.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WELFARE. 18:16.933 --> 18:18.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HOW MANY YEARS TALKING ABOUT 18:18.433 --> 18:20.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ECONOMIC GARDENING AND GOING TO 18:20.600 --> 18:22.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TAX CREDITS FOR MOVIES. 18:22.300 --> 18:24.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> AND JOHN ENGLER WAS OPPOSED 18:24.133 --> 18:26.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO THOSE AS WELL, BUT AS SOON 18:26.966 --> 18:29.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AS A PROJECT GOES SOMEWHERE 18:29.233 --> 18:30.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ELSE, YOU FIND RELIGION. 18:30.466 --> 18:31.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: I WANT TO KNOW HOW SERIOUS 18:31.766 --> 18:33.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS THIS PROBLEM, IF IT IS A 18:33.600 --> 18:34.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROBLEM, IN THE DEMOCRATIC 18:34.233 --> 18:36.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PARTY OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS 18:36.666 --> 18:42.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAYING THE ALYSSA SLOTKIN 18:42.400 --> 18:43.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ANOINTMENT, WE FIND OFFENSIVE. 18:43.866 --> 18:45.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS 18:45.133 --> 18:45.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING ON. 18:45.466 --> 18:47.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT 18:47.566 --> 18:49.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SURPRISED, AND SECONDLY, THE 18:49.433 --> 18:52.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO SHAFT 18:52.100 --> 18:53.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEMSELVES, THE BLACK, 18:53.933 --> 18:55.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC 18:55.133 --> 18:58.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CANDIDATES, LESLIE LOVE, PAMELA 18:58.466 --> 18:59.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PUGH AND HILL HARPER BECAUSE 18:59.833 --> 19:01.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY SPLIT THE VOTE UP. 19:01.400 --> 19:04.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY HAVE 25% OF THE DEMOCRATIC 19:04.566 --> 19:06.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRIMARY VOTE IS 19:06.466 --> 19:07.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN, IF THOSE 19:07.333 --> 19:09.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THREE SPLIT THAT AND SLOTKIN IS 19:09.500 --> 19:10.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BY HERSELF, SHE'S GOING TO WIPE 19:10.933 --> 19:12.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE FLOOR WITH THEM. 19:12.633 --> 19:14.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY KILLING 19:14.700 --> 19:16.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEMSELVES, THEY SHOULD HAVE 19:16.066 --> 19:18.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RALLIED TOGETHER AND COME UP 19:18.833 --> 19:21.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH A CONSENSUS, 19:21.166 --> 19:22.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN NOMINEE TO RUN 19:22.100 --> 19:23.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGAINST SLOTKIN, THEY HAVEN'T 19:23.566 --> 19:24.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DONE THAT. 19:24.800 --> 19:28.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS A STORY TOLD IN 19:28.900 --> 19:30.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS FOR 19:30.766 --> 19:31.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEARS. 19:31.533 --> 19:33.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAGINAW SHOULD HAVE ELECTED 19:33.033 --> 19:34.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DEMOCRATIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN IN 19:34.000 --> 19:38.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE HOUSE, AND KEPT RUNNING 19:38.600 --> 19:40.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CANDIDATES AND A SINGLE WHITE 19:40.600 --> 19:41.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AMERICAN WOULD BEAT THEM. 19:41.833 --> 19:43.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> DEMOCRATS BEING DEMOCRATS 19:43.233 --> 19:45.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND IN THIS CASE, 19:45.200 --> 19:45.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN DEMOCRATS, AND 19:45.833 --> 19:47.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THESE THREE ARE DOOMED FROM THE 19:47.433 --> 19:47.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GET-GO. 19:47.800 --> 19:49.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 19:49.400 --> 19:51.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIM: IS THIS DISTRICT, IN THIS 19:51.566 --> 19:53.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PARTY, ANALOGOUS TO WHAT WE SEE 19:53.766 --> 19:55.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, 19:55.533 --> 19:57.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVING A PHILOSOPHICAL 19:57.166 --> 19:58.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO WE ARE? 19:58.933 --> 20:01.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS JUST RAW POLITICS, WE 20:01.766 --> 20:02.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WANT OUR VOICE HEARD. 20:02.933 --> 20:06.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE 20:06.466 --> 20:07.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VERY, VERY DISTINCT. 20:07.533 --> 20:08.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN DEMOCRATICS 20:08.233 --> 20:13.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE LONG COMPLAINED THAT, IT'S 20:13.766 --> 20:16.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A LARGE PART OF THE LOYAL PARTY 20:16.000 --> 20:19.466 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BASE THAT'S TAKEN FOR GRANTED. 20:19.466 --> 20:21.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT SPORT IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED 20:21.133 --> 20:24.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN GENERAL ELECTIONS. 20:24.233 --> 20:26.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE EXISTENTIAL FIGHT -- THE 20:26.300 --> 20:27.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXISTENTIAL MESS, THAT IS THE 20:27.300 --> 20:29.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW, IS 20:29.633 --> 20:30.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. 20:30.966 --> 20:32.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> LET ME JUST MENTION ONE 20:32.333 --> 20:33.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THING MORE, TIM. 20:33.566 --> 20:35.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE DEMOCRATS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN 20:35.833 --> 20:36.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS NEED A LEADER, 20:36.866 --> 20:40.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SOMEBODY WHO CAN BRING ALL THE 20:40.266 --> 20:41.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE 20:41.266 --> 20:42.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATIC PARTY TOGETHER. 20:42.300 --> 20:44.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LET'S LOOK AT REDISTRICTING. 20:44.400 --> 20:46.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE SUPREME COURT, U.S. SUPREME 20:46.066 --> 20:47.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COURT DECISION A COUPLE OF 20:47.133 --> 20:49.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WEEKS AGO, ON THE ALABAMA CASE, 20:49.100 --> 20:50.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHICH ALL LIBERALS AND 20:50.500 --> 20:55.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROGRESSIVES ARE APPLAUDING 20:55.100 --> 20:56.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAYING THIS IS TERRIFIC ON 20:56.233 --> 20:58.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VOTING RIGHTS. 20:58.133 --> 20:58.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GUESS WHAT? 20:58.933 --> 21:01.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT BOOMERANGS IN MICHIGAN 21:01.100 --> 21:02.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS AND 21:02.833 --> 21:04.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICANS -- NOT 21:04.866 --> 21:06.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICANS, BUT 21:06.100 --> 21:07.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE THE SIXTH 21:07.833 --> 21:09.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS WOULD 21:09.066 --> 21:11.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RULE ON A SUIT CHALLENGING 21:11.966 --> 21:14.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN'S LINES THAT WERE IN 21:14.200 --> 21:17.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PLACE IN 2022, AND IF THE 21:17.933 --> 21:19.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMMISSION, THE INDEPENDENT 21:19.266 --> 21:20.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REDISTRICTING COMMISSION HAS TO 21:20.933 --> 21:22.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GO BACK IN SESSION AND REDRAW 21:22.000 --> 21:25.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE LINES, THEY MAY COME UP 21:25.100 --> 21:27.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WITH MAPS THAT EXISTED FOR THE 21:27.033 --> 21:30.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAST TWO DECADES, WHERE YOU HAD 21:30.766 --> 21:33.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TWO, NOT JUST ONE, MAJORITY 21:33.700 --> 21:34.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN DISTRICT IN 21:34.333 --> 21:35.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. 21:35.266 --> 21:37.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE 21:37.033 --> 21:39.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOW? 21:39.566 --> 21:39.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NONE. 21:39.800 --> 21:41.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I WAS GOING TO SAY. 21:41.466 --> 21:43.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THERE ARE NONE. 21:43.166 --> 21:43.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEAH. 21:43.400 --> 21:44.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN 21:44.500 --> 21:48.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU'VE GOT IN CONGRESSIONAL 21:48.033 --> 21:50.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DELEGATION IS A BLACK 21:50.066 --> 21:52.766 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REPUBLICAN FROM MACOMB COUNTY, 21:52.766 --> 21:55.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NORTH OF WAYNE COUNTY. 21:55.000 --> 21:58.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAYNE COUNTY HAS NOBODY. 21:58.066 --> 22:00.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY'VE GOT TALIB AND THEY'VE 22:00.266 --> 22:02.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOT SHREVE TANADAR. 22:02.400 --> 22:03.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: HOW SERIOUS IS THIS, 22:03.933 --> 22:04.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DAVID? 22:04.833 --> 22:06.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IMPORTANT TO NOTE, NO 22:06.100 --> 22:08.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMMUNITY ANYWHERE IS A 22:08.000 --> 22:09.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MONOLITH. 22:09.066 --> 22:12.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ALYSSA SLOTKIN IS GOING TO GET 22:12.066 --> 22:14.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% VOTE S FROM OTHER PEOPLE TOO. 22:14.333 --> 22:16.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME 22:16.200 --> 22:21.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE IS A QUOTE, UNQUOTE 22:21.033 --> 22:22.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CORONATION OF AN ESTABLISHMENT. 22:22.300 --> 22:24.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A 22:24.033 --> 22:24.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATIC THING. 22:24.500 --> 22:26.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALL BEING THAT SAID, IF THERE 22:26.233 --> 22:27.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS A CANDIDATE WHO COULD RAISE 22:27.600 --> 22:30.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE MONEY OF ALYSSA SLOTKIN OR 22:30.733 --> 22:31.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE THE MONEY SHE ALREADY HAS, 22:31.900 --> 22:35.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF COURSE, THERE COULD BE A 22:35.000 --> 22:36.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRIMARY RACE HERE. 22:36.066 --> 22:38.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SUPPOSEDLY HILL HARPER CAN 22:38.133 --> 22:39.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RAISE MONEY, THAT'S THE 22:39.600 --> 22:41.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THOUGHT, OUT OF THE THREE 22:41.033 --> 22:41.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 22:41.433 --> 22:42.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO 22:42.466 --> 22:44.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE LOVE 22:44.333 --> 22:47.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND PUGH WILL SPLIT THE 22:47.233 --> 22:48.833 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE WITH HIM 22:48.833 --> 22:50.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE SPENDS, 22:50.966 --> 22:54.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND IT'S NOT CLOSE TO SLOTKIN. 22:54.000 --> 22:56.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> AFTER THE SHOW LAST WEEK, I 22:56.133 --> 22:58.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WENT TO THE SLOTKIN CAMPAIGN 22:58.300 --> 22:59.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND SAID WHAT'S UP? 22:59.566 --> 23:01.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE'RE NOT COMMENTING. 23:01.700 --> 23:03.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AT SOME POINT WILL SHE HAVE TO 23:03.733 --> 23:06.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM OR 23:06.900 --> 23:07.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SANGUINELY GO ALONG? 23:07.800 --> 23:10.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> DON'T MEAN THE PROBLEM OF 23:10.766 --> 23:13.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE -- YOU MEAN THE PROBLEM OF 23:13.033 --> 23:13.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% UNITING AROUND HER? 23:13.900 --> 23:16.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHE'S GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? 23:16.233 --> 23:19.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: NO, THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE 23:19.000 --> 23:21.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT. 23:21.433 --> 23:23.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ON WHAT BASIS? 23:23.366 --> 23:25.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHE'S GOT TO BE CAREFUL. 23:25.100 --> 23:28.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SHE SHOULD KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT 23:28.300 --> 23:30.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND LET THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN 23:30.333 --> 23:31.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DIVIDE EVERYTHING UP AND SAIL 23:31.800 --> 23:32.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THROUGH. 23:32.333 --> 23:34.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IT'S NOT EARLY, EARLY, BUT 23:34.333 --> 23:35.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT'S RELATIVELY EARLY, WE'LL 23:35.700 --> 23:37.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SEE IF THERE ARE FOUR, FIVE OR 23:37.133 --> 23:38.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TWO CANDIDATES BY THE TIME 23:38.966 --> 23:40.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE ACTUALLY START VOTING. 23:40.566 --> 23:42.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, 23:42.466 --> 23:45.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUT SURE, WHY WOULDN'T ALYSSA 23:45.633 --> 23:46.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SLOTKIN CAMPAIGN OUTSIDE OF 23:46.966 --> 23:48.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CURRENT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. 23:48.133 --> 23:49.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF COURSE SHE'S GOING TO DO 23:49.333 --> 23:49.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT. 23:49.866 --> 23:51.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT AS OPPOSED 23:51.500 --> 23:53.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO HAVING A DEBATE WITH 23:53.500 --> 23:54.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOMEBODY WAY EARLY IN THIS 23:54.766 --> 23:56.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RACE, YOU CAN CAMPAIGN WHERE 23:56.733 --> 23:58.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU NEED TO GO CAMPAIGN. 23:58.500 --> 24:00.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> LET ME SAY SOMETHING, THE 24:00.300 --> 24:02.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONGRESSIONAL MAP, TIM, THE 24:02.033 --> 24:03.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT CHALLENGED 24:03.966 --> 24:04.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT. 24:04.166 --> 24:05.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE'S NO SUIT PENDING RIGHT 24:05.766 --> 24:06.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOW. 24:06.066 --> 24:07.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE SHOULD BE. 24:07.333 --> 24:10.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE SHOULD BE IN THE SIXTH 24:10.233 --> 24:11.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS 24:11.300 --> 24:12.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CHALLENGING THAT MAP THAT 24:12.366 --> 24:13.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABSOLUTELY SHAFTED THE 24:13.933 --> 24:14.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN 24:14.700 --> 24:15.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN, AND I'M 24:15.866 --> 24:17.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JUST AMAZED. 24:17.766 --> 24:19.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE ONLY SUIT PENDING IS 24:19.566 --> 24:21.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGAINST THE STATEHOUSE AND 24:21.933 --> 24:23.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATE SENATE MAPS. 24:23.166 --> 24:24.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WHEN THE MAPS FIRST CAME OUT 24:24.766 --> 24:26.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BECAUSE OF THAT VERY REASON, 24:26.133 --> 24:29.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND YOU SEE IT NOW, A LACK OF 24:29.300 --> 24:29.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPRESENTATION PARTICULARLY 24:29.900 --> 24:31.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AMONG DEMOCRATS IN THE MICHIGAN 24:31.400 --> 24:36.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SENATE BECAUSE OF THAT. 24:36.433 --> 24:37.933 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GOING TO ANNOUNCE IN JULY HE'S 24:37.933 --> 24:38.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RUNNING FOR CONGRESS. 24:38.866 --> 24:40.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE GOVERNOR LOSES A VERY 24:40.966 --> 24:42.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IMPORTANT PART OF HER TEAM. 24:42.566 --> 24:43.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HER LEGISLATIVE LOBBYIST. 24:43.933 --> 24:47.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HE BASICALLY RUNS THE SENATE 24:47.533 --> 24:48.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RIGHT NOW. 24:48.266 --> 24:49.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: WELL -- 24:49.466 --> 24:49.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% [LAUGHTER] 24:49.766 --> 24:53.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HE DOES, HE RUNS THE SENATE. 24:53.200 --> 24:56.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: THERE'S THE PRESIDENT OF 24:56.200 --> 25:02.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE CURTIS HURTLE FAN CLUB. 25:02.033 --> 25:05.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK EVERYBODY IN LANSING 25:05.066 --> 25:07.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% KNOWS FORMER SENATOR HURTLE, 25:07.833 --> 25:11.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HE'S BEEN AROUND LANSING FOR A 25:11.133 --> 25:12.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LONG TIME. 25:12.100 --> 25:13.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE GOVERNOR HAS A DEMOCRATIC 25:13.200 --> 25:14.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAJORITY IN THE SENATE. 25:14.500 --> 25:16.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT HELPS. 25:16.666 --> 25:18.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> TENUOUS MAJORITY. 25:18.433 --> 25:20.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SURE, BUT IT'S STILL A 25:20.566 --> 25:20.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAJORITY. 25:20.866 --> 25:22.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: SHE NEEDS TO GO IN AND 25:22.600 --> 25:24.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TALK TO THESE PEOPLE AND THAT'S 25:24.633 --> 25:26.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT HURTELLE BROUGHT TO THE 25:26.033 --> 25:26.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TABLE. 25:26.233 --> 25:27.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> SURE, HE, OF COURSE, WAS IN 25:27.733 --> 25:28.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE SENATE AND KNOWS THE 25:28.866 --> 25:30.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SENATORS THERE. 25:30.333 --> 25:31.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I'M NOT SURE THAT ARE SENATE 25:31.633 --> 25:33.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAJORITY LEADER, WHEN HE 25:33.233 --> 25:34.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BREAKS, ISN'T ANSWERING THE 25:34.700 --> 25:35.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PHONE WHEN THE GOVERNOR CALLS. 25:35.800 --> 25:37.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I THINK THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM IN 25:37.366 --> 25:39.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE SENATE RIGHT NOW. 25:39.066 --> 25:40.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGAIN, HE'S VERY -- EVERYBODY 25:40.566 --> 25:42.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THINKS HE'S VERY GOOD AT WHAT 25:42.066 --> 25:42.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE DOES. 25:42.600 --> 25:44.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO 25:44.533 --> 25:46.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CRIPPLE THE DEMOCRATS' AGENDA 25:46.766 --> 25:48.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHEN THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE 25:48.633 --> 25:48.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOUSE. 25:48.866 --> 25:50.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THIS ISN'T A BIG LOSS, A SET 25:50.233 --> 25:51.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF SKILLS WILL BE ROLLING OUT 25:51.833 --> 25:54.166 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE DOOR AND THAT MATTERS, BUT 25:54.166 --> 25:55.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T A 25:55.966 --> 25:58.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POOL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO 25:58.833 --> 25:59.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BE -- 25:59.200 --> 26:00.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WATCH THIS, WATCH THIS. 26:00.900 --> 26:03.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OKAY, WE'RE DONE. 26:03.533 --> 26:03.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% [LAUGHTER] 26:03.800 --> 26:06.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> MAKE ANY GUESSES WHO IT'S 26:06.100 --> 26:06.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING TO BE? 26:06.800 --> 26:08.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: I THINK WAYNE SCHMIDT UP 26:08.166 --> 26:10.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NORTH, A REPUBLICAN WOULD BE A 26:10.033 --> 26:11.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GOOD REPLACEMENT FOR HURTELLE. 26:11.866 --> 26:13.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHAT DO I KNOW. 26:13.200 --> 26:16.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> GOOD FOR WHITMER AND 26:16.066 --> 26:17.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHMIDT, BUT NOT SURE IT'S GOOD 26:17.333 --> 26:19.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR THE SENATE REPUBLICANS. 26:19.033 --> 26:19.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIM: LAST WORD. 26:19.966 --> 26:22.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVERYBODY HAVE A SAFE HOLIDAY 26:22.400 --> 26:24.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY WITH 26:24.766 --> 26:25.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FIREWORKS. 26:25.066 --> 26:27.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SEE YOU FOR MORE "OFF THE 26:27.366 --> 26:27.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RECORD" NEXT WEEK. 26:27.966 --> 26:29.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ANNOUNCER: PRODUCTION OF "OFF 26:29.400 --> 26:30.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RECORD" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN 26:30.133 --> 26:44.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PART BY -- 26:44.366 --> 26:47.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR MORE OFFVISIT WKAR.ORG. 26:47.900 --> 26:49.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MICHIGAN PUBLIC TELEVISION 26:49.133 --> 26:49.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATIONS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO 26:49.933 --> 26:52.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE COSTS OF "OFF THE RECORD."