WEBVTT 00:00.100 --> 00:00.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:2.5% ♪ 00:00.333 --> 00:03.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:2.5% ♪ 00:03.766 --> 00:06.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WELCOME BACK OUR OTR GUEST THIS 00:06.066 --> 00:09.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WEEK IS A NEW CHAIRPERSON OF THE 00:09.266 --> 00:12.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS TOM ALBERT 00:12.133 --> 00:13.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% FROM MICHIGAN AND LEAD STORIES 00:13.966 --> 00:15.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% POTENTIAL VIOLENCE AT THE STATE 00:15.400 --> 00:17.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% CAPITOL AND FORMER RICK SNYDER 00:17.700 --> 00:19.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% CHARGED IN THE FLINT WATER 00:19.033 --> 00:22.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% CRISIS ON THE ORT PANEL CHAD 00:22.800 --> 00:26.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% LIVENGOOD ABIGAIL CENSKY RICK 00:26.666 --> 00:27.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% ALBIN. 00:27.400 --> 00:29.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET THE 00:29.100 --> 00:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% INSIDE OUT OFF THE RECORD. 00:30.700 --> 00:31.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 00:31.400 --> 00:32.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE 00:32.066 --> 00:32.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FOLLOWING, BUSINESS LEADERS FOR 00:32.766 --> 00:33.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MICHIGAN HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN TO 00:33.466 --> 00:34.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MAKE MICHIGAN A TOP TEN STATE IN 00:34.200 --> 00:34.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE NATION FOR JOBS, PERSONAL 00:34.866 --> 00:35.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% INCOME AND A HEALTHY ECONOMY 00:35.533 --> 00:36.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% LEARN MORE AT MICHIGAN ROAD TO 00:36.233 --> 00:36.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% TOP TEN.COM. 00:36.633 --> 00:37.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND NOW THIS EDITION OF OFF THE 00:37.333 --> 00:37.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% RECORD WITH TIM SKUBICK. 00:37.900 --> 00:38.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:2.5% ♪ 00:38.133 --> 00:51.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:2.5% ♪ 00:51.100 --> 00:52.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME BACK 00:52.333 --> 00:54.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% TO OUR ZOOM EDITION OF OFF THE 00:54.600 --> 00:56.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% RECORD ANOTHER HUGE BUSY NEWS 00:56.700 --> 00:58.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WEEK IN OUR TOWN WE HAVE A GREAT 00:58.266 --> 01:00.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% PANEL AND GREAT GUEST AND GET TO 01:00.666 --> 01:04.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THEM AFTER WE GO TO GOVERNOR 01:04.333 --> 01:05.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% GRETCHEN WHITMER ABOUT THE 01:05.966 --> 01:07.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% CAPITOL AND PUTTING SHOTS IN 01:07.633 --> 01:08.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5% YOUR ARM. 01:08.566 --> 01:09.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% GIVEN THE VIOLENCE OF THE ATTACK 01:09.900 --> 01:11.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% ON THE U.S. CAPITOL LAST WEEK 01:11.800 --> 01:14.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% GOVERNOR GRETCHEN WHITMER IS 01:14.133 --> 01:15.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% DEEPLY CONCERNED WHAT MIGHT 01:15.133 --> 01:15.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% HAPPEN HERE. 01:15.733 --> 01:17.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% DO YOU HAVE ANY CREDIBLE THREATS 01:17.733 --> 01:21.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% OF VIOLENCE AT OUR STATE CAPITOL 01:21.100 --> 01:22.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% OR IS THIS JUST SPECULATION? 01:22.900 --> 01:25.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> TIM, I CAN SAY THAT THERE IS 01:25.000 --> 01:27.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% A LOT OF CHATTER THAT IS BEING 01:27.266 --> 01:28.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% MONITORED BOTH BY OUR FEDERAL 01:28.733 --> 01:31.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% PARTNERS AND BY OUR STATE 01:31.300 --> 01:31.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% RESOURCES. 01:31.733 --> 01:35.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AND AS FOR SPECIFIC THREAT, 01:35.233 --> 01:36.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% THERE IS NOT ANY TO MY 01:36.700 --> 01:37.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% KNOWLEDGE. 01:37.300 --> 01:39.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% BUT WE CAN SEE THAT THE 01:39.466 --> 01:40.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% CONVERSATION NATIONALLY IS 01:40.866 --> 01:42.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% FOCUSED ON THE 17TH. 01:42.266 --> 01:44.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO 01:44.333 --> 01:46.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% STAY CLOSE TO OUR FEDERAL 01:46.700 --> 01:49.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% PARTNERS AS WE ARE YOU KNOW 01:49.033 --> 01:51.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ENSURE THE 01:51.333 --> 01:53.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% SAFETY OF THE CAPITOL COMPLEX. 01:53.266 --> 01:55.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> THE LANSING MIRROR ANDY SHORE 01:55.466 --> 01:56.933 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% WANTS THE GOVERNOR TO BRING IN 01:56.933 --> 01:58.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE NATIONAL GUARD FOR A PLANNED 01:58.700 --> 01:59.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% DEMONSTRATION AT THE STATE 01:59.700 --> 02:00.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% CAPITOL ON SUNDAY. 02:00.666 --> 02:03.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE GOVERNOR WON'T DISCLOSE WHAT 02:03.433 --> 02:05.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% HER BATTLE PLAN IS. 02:05.033 --> 02:06.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> THE MICHIGAN NATIONAL GUARD 02:06.333 --> 02:07.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% IS IN COORDINATION WITH THE 02:07.800 --> 02:08.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% MICHIGAN STATE POLICE AND 02:08.700 --> 02:11.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% LANSING POLICE DEPARTMENT AND 02:11.133 --> 02:11.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% INGHAM COUNTY SHERIFF'S 02:11.966 --> 02:12.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% DEPARTMENT. 02:12.500 --> 02:15.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% BEYOND THAT WE DO NOT AS JUST A 02:15.200 --> 02:19.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% GENERAL MATTER SHARE MORE 02:19.566 --> 02:23.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% INRICATE DETAILS LOOK LIKE AND 02:23.466 --> 02:24.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% WE ARE PREPARED IF SOMETHING 02:24.766 --> 02:26.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% SHOULD ARISE AND HOPEFUL IT DOES 02:26.700 --> 02:26.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:10% NOT. 02:26.966 --> 02:29.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% >> ON COVID FRONT THEY ARE 02:29.100 --> 02:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% TAKING POLITICAL FIRE FOR 02:30.700 --> 02:33.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% DELAYING FEBRUARY FIRST PARTIAL 02:33.233 --> 02:36.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% OPENING OF IN ROOM DINING AND 02:36.533 --> 02:39.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% SHIRKEY DISMISSES IT TO 02:39.533 --> 02:40.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% GOVERNMENT KNOWS BEST AND QUOTE 02:40.833 --> 02:42.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% IT'S TONE DEAF AND THE GOVERNOR 02:42.800 --> 02:44.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IS NOT READY TO OPEN THEM NOW 02:44.233 --> 02:44.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% BECAUSE OF THIS. 02:44.833 --> 02:45.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% >> AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 02:45.800 --> 02:49.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% NUMBERS WE SEE AN UPTICK IN 02:49.633 --> 02:52.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% POSITIVITY AND IN TESTS AND THAT 02:52.333 --> 02:54.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% IS AS A CONCERN THAT WE ALL HAD 02:54.033 --> 02:55.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% WAS AROUND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN 02:55.166 --> 02:57.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% WITH THE HOLIDAYS. 02:57.100 --> 02:58.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% >> Reporter: ON THE VACCINE 02:58.233 --> 03:03.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FRONT 8031 DOSES IN MICHIGAN OR 03:03.133 --> 03:05.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% SCHEDULED TO BE GIVEN BUT MORE 03:05.700 --> 03:08.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% VACCINES NEED TO INOCCUR LATE 03:08.100 --> 03:10.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THE RESIDENTS AND 33,000 SHOTS 03:10.533 --> 03:11.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% GIVEN RECENTLY BUT NOT THE 03:11.733 --> 03:13.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% 50,000 SHOTS A DAY THE GOVERNOR 03:13.666 --> 03:16.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% WANTS. 03:16.066 --> 03:18.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY 03:18.033 --> 03:20.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AT THE STATE CAPITOL ABIGAIL ARE 03:20.033 --> 03:21.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% WE SAFE? 03:21.800 --> 03:23.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THEY ARE PUTTING UP A FENCE 03:23.166 --> 03:24.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AROUND OUR CAPITOL BUILDING THIS 03:24.500 --> 03:24.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:10% DAY. 03:24.866 --> 03:27.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> YEAH, EVERYONE I'VE TALKED TO 03:27.600 --> 03:30.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% REMAINS CONFIDENT WHILE THEY ARE 03:30.000 --> 03:31.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% NOT ABLE TO SHARE DETAILS OF 03:31.800 --> 03:33.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% WHAT THE SPECIFIC POLICE 03:33.433 --> 03:35.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% PRESENCE IS LIKE I TALKED TO 03:35.700 --> 03:36.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% LIEUTENANT MICHAEL SHAW THIS 03:36.933 --> 03:40.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% MORNING AND HE WAS SAYING THAT, 03:40.500 --> 03:42.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% YOU KNOW, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE 03:42.466 --> 03:44.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% CREDIBLE THREATS OF VIOLENCE. 03:44.933 --> 03:46.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT 03:46.133 --> 03:49.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% WE SAW AT PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, 03:49.200 --> 03:50.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% INSTANCES JUST EARLIER THIS 03:50.766 --> 03:52.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% YEAR, JUST BACK ON 03:52.433 --> 03:54.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% DECEMBER 14TH. 03:54.433 --> 03:56.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THERE WERE CRITICAL ACTS OF 03:56.066 --> 03:57.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% VIOLENCE AND THE STATE CAPITOL 03:57.100 --> 03:58.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% WAS SHUT DOWN. 03:58.033 --> 04:00.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% SO I THINK IT'S CHILLING BECAUSE 04:00.133 --> 04:02.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% A LOT OF THIS PLANNING IS 04:02.133 --> 04:04.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% HAPPENING OFF OF MAINSTREAM 04:04.733 --> 04:05.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% SOCIAL MEDIA. 04:05.533 --> 04:07.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IT'S MIGRATED OFF OF FACEBOOK 04:07.800 --> 04:10.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AND TWITTER AND OTHER AREAS 04:10.033 --> 04:12.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BECAUSE THESE TECH COMPANIES 04:12.033 --> 04:13.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% HAVE STARTED ENFORCING 04:13.666 --> 04:15.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% GUIDELINES MORE STRICTLY AND 04:15.833 --> 04:17.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE PLANNING 04:17.433 --> 04:19.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% THESE TYPES OF EVENTS HAVE 04:19.100 --> 04:21.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% ESSENTIALLY BEEN DEPLATFORMED. 04:21.366 --> 04:23.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% SO IT'S MIGRATED TO KIND OF 04:23.566 --> 04:26.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THIRD AND FOURTH TIER APPS LIKE 04:26.433 --> 04:28.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5% ME WEE AND GAB. 04:28.366 --> 04:30.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WHAT 04:30.566 --> 04:32.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM OFFICIALS 04:32.000 --> 04:36.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IS THAT THEY ARE BEING ALMOST 04:36.100 --> 04:37.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% OVERLY CAUTIOUS. 04:37.833 --> 04:39.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WE KNOW IT'S A BIG THREAT AFTER 04:39.133 --> 04:40.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE U.S. 04:40.833 --> 04:42.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% CAPITOL THIS WEEK. 04:42.433 --> 04:45.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% BUT THEY ARE CONFIDENT THEY ARE 04:45.900 --> 04:48.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MAKING ADEQUATE PREPARATIONS AND 04:48.266 --> 04:50.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS 04:50.100 --> 04:51.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% THEY DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP 04:51.300 --> 04:52.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% MONDAY MORNING THINKING THEY 04:52.700 --> 04:55.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% COULD HAVE DONE MORE. 04:55.900 --> 04:57.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> I'VE TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE 04:57.100 --> 04:59.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% WHO ARE SIMILARLY I THINK 04:59.566 --> 05:00.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OPTIMISTIC THAT THEY WILL HAVE 05:00.600 --> 05:02.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THE SITUATION UNDER CONTROL. 05:02.433 --> 05:04.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% BUT I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT 05:04.066 --> 05:06.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AFTER WHAT WE SAW HAPPEN IN 05:06.933 --> 05:10.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WASHINGTON DC THAT IT WOULD BE A 05:10.500 --> 05:13.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FALLACY TO UNDER PREPARE AND IF 05:13.400 --> 05:14.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% YOU HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAN YOU 05:14.900 --> 05:17.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% NEED IN PLACE, I THINK THAT'S 05:17.400 --> 05:18.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% GOING TO BE A GOOD THING. 05:18.833 --> 05:19.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% AND I DON'T KNOW. 05:19.500 --> 05:21.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ABIGAIL. 05:21.100 --> 05:22.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% I THINK A LOT OF THIS 05:22.166 --> 05:24.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% CONVERSATION HAS MOVED TO OTHER 05:24.233 --> 05:24.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% PLACES. 05:24.866 --> 05:26.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% I'M RELATIVELY CERTAIN THAT THE 05:26.566 --> 05:28.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% OFFICIALS ARE ABLE TO TRACK THAT 05:28.233 --> 05:29.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AS WELL 05:29.866 --> 05:31.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE A LITTLE 05:31.133 --> 05:32.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% MORE DIFFICULT WITH YOU KNOW A 05:32.366 --> 05:34.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% MORE SPREAD OUT CONVERSATION. 05:34.000 --> 05:36.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE 05:36.500 --> 05:38.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% PREPARED FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN 05:38.800 --> 05:41.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% ON SUNDAY JUST GIVEN THE AMOUNT 05:41.266 --> 05:42.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OF CONVERSATION THERE HAS BEEN 05:42.533 --> 05:43.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% OUT THERE ABOUT IT. 05:43.766 --> 05:46.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% AND THE FACT THAT I THINK 05:46.600 --> 05:48.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% TENSIONS AND EMOTIONS ARE STILL 05:48.066 --> 05:49.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% RUNNING HIGH. 05:49.600 --> 05:51.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> TIM, WE VIEW THE STATE HOUSE 05:51.400 --> 05:54.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AS THE MOST SACRED PLACE AT 05:54.733 --> 05:57.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% LEAST THE LANSING INSIDERS WHO 05:57.100 --> 05:59.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% LOOK AT THIS AND WORK IN THIS 05:59.233 --> 06:00.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% INSTITUTION EVERYDAY. 06:00.133 --> 06:02.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SO I AGREE OVER PROTECTING IT 06:02.600 --> 06:05.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, 06:05.000 --> 06:06.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I'M NOT SURE WHO IS REALLY GOING 06:06.200 --> 06:08.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% TO CRITICIZE JUST BEING OVER 06:08.200 --> 06:09.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% PREPARED FOR WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT 06:09.600 --> 06:10.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% HAPPEN. 06:10.900 --> 06:12.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% >> WELL, THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T 06:12.166 --> 06:14.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION 06:14.133 --> 06:15.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% WOULD SHE CALL IN THE NATIONAL 06:15.400 --> 06:16.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% GUARD BUT HERE IS A GUESS FROM 06:16.866 --> 06:18.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% 30,000 FEET I THINK THEY ARE ON 06:18.566 --> 06:21.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% STAND BY AND THE ARMORY IS 06:21.500 --> 06:23.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% NEARBY AND IF THEY NEED TO BE 06:23.000 --> 06:24.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% TRUCKED IN THEY CAN DO IT IN A 06:24.133 --> 06:25.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% SECOND IF THAT IS NEEDED. 06:25.666 --> 06:27.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% AND IN THE CONTEXT THE STATE 06:27.333 --> 06:28.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% CAPITOL COMMISSION DID SOMETHING 06:28.766 --> 06:30.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THEY THOUGHT WOULD HELP PROTECT 06:30.733 --> 06:32.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% PEOPLE IN THE CAPITOL AND THAT 06:32.966 --> 06:35.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% IS THEY BAN OPEN CARRY AND, 06:35.166 --> 06:37.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% RICK, IT DID NOT OPEN TO GREAT 06:37.133 --> 06:38.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% REVIEWS FROM EITHER SIDE. 06:38.866 --> 06:40.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% >> NO, IT DIDN'T. 06:40.166 --> 06:42.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FOR SOME IT WAS AN INFRINGEMENT 06:42.366 --> 06:45.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ON THE OPEN CARRY LAW IN THE 06:45.733 --> 06:46.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% STATE OF MICHIGAN AND FOR OTHERS 06:46.666 --> 06:48.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% IT WAS JUST A HALF STEP THAT 06:48.933 --> 06:50.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE 06:50.700 --> 06:52.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% CONCEALED CARRY WAS ALSO 06:52.800 --> 06:53.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% RESTRICTED IN THE CAPITOL. 06:53.900 --> 06:55.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION 06:55.600 --> 06:58.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FROM THE STAND POINT OF SAFETY. 06:58.100 --> 07:00.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I KNOW THAT AFTER I CAME BACK TO 07:00.666 --> 07:03.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE STATE, AFTER 9/11 I WAS A 07:03.133 --> 07:04.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% LITTLE SURPRISED AND REMAIN SO 07:04.633 --> 07:06.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THAT THE CAPITOL WAS AS OPEN AS 07:06.833 --> 07:07.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% IT WAS. 07:07.566 --> 07:09.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THERE ARE YOU KNOW NO METAL 07:09.833 --> 07:10.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% DETECTORS GOING IN. 07:10.800 --> 07:12.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% IT'S PRETTY FREE FLOW IN AND 07:12.633 --> 07:14.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% OUT, NOT AS MUCH OBVIOUSLY 07:14.666 --> 07:16.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% DURING COVID BUT IN A NORMAL 07:16.766 --> 07:18.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% TIME SO THE QUESTION OF HOW OPEN 07:18.166 --> 07:20.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% DO YOU KEEP THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE 07:20.133 --> 07:21.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% VERSUS HOW DO YOU TRY TO PROTECT 07:21.600 --> 07:23.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE PEOPLE INSIDE THAT HOUSE. 07:23.566 --> 07:25.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% AND THOSE THAT WOULD VISIT AS 07:25.066 --> 07:26.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5% WELL. 07:26.000 --> 07:27.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% IS AN INTERESTING ONE. 07:27.100 --> 07:31.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT, TIM, THE 07:31.266 --> 07:32.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% DECISION BY THE CAPITOL 07:32.833 --> 07:34.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% COMMISSION TO DO AWAY WITH OPEN 07:34.333 --> 07:37.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% CARRY INSIDE THE BUILDING FOR 07:37.000 --> 07:39.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BOTH SEE I THINK WAS A MEASURE 07:39.166 --> 07:42.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% EITHER A HALF STEP TOO FAR OR A 07:42.400 --> 07:45.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% HALF STEP TOO SHORT AND I THINK 07:45.366 --> 07:46.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% IT'S CONVERSATION WE WILL 07:46.200 --> 07:47.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% CONTINUE TO HEAR. 07:47.066 --> 07:49.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> ALL RIGHT I WANT TO MOVE, GO 07:49.566 --> 07:50.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% AHEAD, CHAD. 07:50.966 --> 07:52.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> WE HAVE TO GO ACROSS ALLEGAN 07:52.666 --> 07:54.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% STREET TO FIND A STUNNINGLY 07:54.533 --> 07:55.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% DIFFERENT EXAMPLE OF A 07:55.400 --> 07:57.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% GOVERNMENT BUILDING FORTIFIED 07:57.500 --> 08:00.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE AND POST 08:00.400 --> 08:00.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% OFFICE. 08:00.700 --> 08:03.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN 08:03.333 --> 08:06.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THEY INSTALLED THE STEEL BOWARDS 08:06.233 --> 08:08.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% ALONG THERE, THEY WERE AFRAID 08:08.100 --> 08:09.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SOMEONE WOULD JUMP THE CURB AND 08:09.666 --> 08:11.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% DRIVE A TRUCK RIGHT INTO THE 08:11.066 --> 08:12.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% FEDERAL COURTHOUSE IN LANSING. 08:12.466 --> 08:14.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SO AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH 08:14.833 --> 08:17.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% METAL DETECTORS TO GET IN THE 08:17.533 --> 08:18.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% COURTHOUSE SIDE OF THAT BUILDING 08:18.600 --> 08:19.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% AS WELL. 08:19.400 --> 08:22.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% SO WE HAVE JUST A REALLY BIZARRE 08:22.300 --> 08:23.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR THE STATE 08:23.633 --> 08:27.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HOUSE AND EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT 08:27.166 --> 08:29.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% BUILDING IN THIS STATE FROM 08:29.766 --> 08:34.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% DETROIT CITY HALL TO COUNTY 08:34.233 --> 08:34.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% COURTHOUSES. 08:34.600 --> 08:36.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THERE ARE SCANNER OR THERE ARE 08:36.766 --> 08:37.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% METAL DETECTORS TO MAKE SURE 08:37.966 --> 08:40.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT HAULING GUNS 08:40.833 --> 08:41.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% INTO THERE. 08:41.300 --> 08:43.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE HAVE NOT GOT TO THAT POINT IN 08:43.266 --> 08:44.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% MICHIGAN BECAUSE WE ARE STILL 08:44.366 --> 08:46.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% ALLOWING CONCEALED WEAPONS INTO 08:46.366 --> 08:47.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% THE CAPITOL. 08:47.733 --> 08:48.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% >> ABIGAIL QUICKLY ON THE 08:48.866 --> 08:51.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% VACCINE FRONT HOW ARE WE DOING? 08:51.633 --> 08:52.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% >> I MEAN I THINK YOU HAVE TO 08:52.833 --> 08:54.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% LOOK JUST AS FAR AS CHAD'S 08:54.933 --> 08:56.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% REPORTING TO SEE THAT WE ARE NOT 08:56.733 --> 09:00.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% DOING WELL OR AS WELL AS THE 09:00.366 --> 09:01.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WITNESS MERADMINISTRATION WOULD 09:01.066 --> 09:02.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% HAVE ANTICIPATED. 09:02.200 --> 09:03.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% THEY ARE ALLEGING THAT IS 09:03.100 --> 09:04.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BECAUSE THEY ARE RECEIVING FAR 09:04.900 --> 09:06.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FEWER VACCINES FROM THE FEDERAL 09:06.533 --> 09:06.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% GOVERNMENT. 09:06.966 --> 09:09.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND THAT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN YOU 09:09.233 --> 09:11.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% KNOW TRUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 09:11.100 --> 09:12.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% WE ARE NOT JUST HEARING THAT 09:12.300 --> 09:14.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% FROM MICHIGAN. 09:14.333 --> 09:17.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BUT I THINK IT ALSO DEPENDS ON 09:17.233 --> 09:18.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% WHAT COUNTY YOU'RE IN. 09:18.966 --> 09:21.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IN INGHAM COUNTY THEY ARE MAKING 09:21.233 --> 09:22.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% APPOINTMENTS BUT THERE IS YOU 09:22.600 --> 09:24.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% KNOW A LONG WAIT UP UNTIL 09:24.266 --> 09:28.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% FEBRUARY FOR JUST THE FIRST, YOU 09:28.200 --> 09:29.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% KNOW, SEVERAL TIERS OF GROUPS 09:29.733 --> 09:31.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE 09:31.533 --> 09:32.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% VACCINE RIGHT NOW. 09:32.400 --> 09:35.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST 09:35.266 --> 09:36.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% ABOVE 16 AND OLDER AND THE 09:36.966 --> 09:38.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% GENERAL POPULATION AND THE VERY 09:38.166 --> 09:39.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% LAST GROUP THEY MIGHT BE 09:39.966 --> 09:41.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% RECEIVING THE VACCINE MUCH LATER 09:41.400 --> 09:44.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% IN 2021 THAN ANTICIPATED. 09:44.333 --> 09:47.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% >> TIM, THE STATE PUBLISHED A 09:47.000 --> 09:48.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% TIMELINE THIS WEEK THAT REALLY 09:48.966 --> 09:50.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% KIND OF STICKS OUT AT THIS POINT 09:50.400 --> 09:56.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THAT FOLKS 60 AND OLDER NOT AN 09:56.800 --> 09:58.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ESSENTIAL WORKER AND WORKING 09:58.100 --> 09:59.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% FROM HOME SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO 09:59.733 --> 10:01.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SEE THE VACCINE UNTIL AUGUST. 10:01.900 --> 10:03.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% SO THIS IDEA WE WILL ALL BE 10:03.866 --> 10:06.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% NORMAL BY LATE SUMMER SEEMS TO 10:06.600 --> 10:08.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% BE FADING AWAY PRETTY QUICKLY 10:08.466 --> 10:10.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HERE THE SECOND OR THIRD WEEK IN 10:10.133 --> 10:10.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% JANUARY. 10:10.700 --> 10:12.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> ALL RIGHT RICK WE HEARD FROM 10:12.133 --> 10:13.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE 10:13.433 --> 10:15.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% AND FORMER RICK SNYDER CHARGED 10:15.233 --> 10:17.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% WITH TWO COUNTS OF WILLINGFUL 10:17.566 --> 10:18.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% NEGLECT OF DUTY PEOPLE ARE 10:18.800 --> 10:20.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% ASKING ARE YOU SURPRISED BY 10:20.000 --> 10:21.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5% THAT? 10:21.000 --> 10:22.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD 10:22.966 --> 10:25.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% CALL IT -- CONSIDER MYSELF 10:25.233 --> 10:25.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% SURPRISED. 10:25.633 --> 10:27.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% I DO THINK THAT IT OPENS UP A 10:27.600 --> 10:29.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION 10:29.833 --> 10:32.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ABOUT WHAT YOU AS AN ELECTED 10:32.766 --> 10:35.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% OFFICIAL CAN AND CANNOT DO, 10:35.433 --> 10:37.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO AND HOW 10:37.133 --> 10:39.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% YOU WILL OR WILL NOT BE JUDGED. 10:39.300 --> 10:41.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A CASE 10:41.933 --> 10:44.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% TO BE MADE THAT THIS COULD HAVE 10:44.800 --> 10:46.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% AN IMPACT ON THAT. 10:46.433 --> 10:48.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SO AM I SURPRISED THAT THERE 10:48.733 --> 10:49.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% WERE CHARGES? 10:49.500 --> 10:50.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% PROBABLY NOT. 10:50.433 --> 10:52.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN CHARGES 10:52.166 --> 10:54.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% WERE DROPPED AND THIS NEW 10:54.366 --> 10:57.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% INVESTIGATION BEGAN, I THINK THE 10:57.033 --> 10:58.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% EXPECTATION WAS THAT THERE WOULD 10:58.233 --> 11:00.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BE CHARGES AND SO WE HAVE SEEN A 11:00.800 --> 11:02.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% LOT OF THEM NOW. 11:02.133 --> 11:03.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% NINE DIFFERENT PEOPLE CHARGED ON 11:03.966 --> 11:07.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF 11:07.100 --> 11:09.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% CHARGES BUT THE FACT THAT YOU 11:09.200 --> 11:10.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% HAVE A FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE 11:10.966 --> 11:12.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% STATE OF MICHIGAN WHO HAS BEEN 11:12.433 --> 11:17.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% CHARGED WITH ESSENTIALLY 11:17.033 --> 11:19.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% NEGLECTING PAYING ENOUGH 11:19.166 --> 11:20.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE WORKING 11:20.033 --> 11:20.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% FOR HIM. 11:20.566 --> 11:22.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IF I YOU KNOW COULD BOIL IT DOWN 11:22.366 --> 11:25.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% TO MY OWN VERY SIMPLISTIC 11:25.400 --> 11:26.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5% LANGUAGE. 11:26.066 --> 11:28.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND I JUST I THINK IT'S GOING TO 11:28.033 --> 11:30.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% BE A VERY INTERESTING CASE TO 11:30.700 --> 11:32.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT AND WHAT 11:32.233 --> 11:33.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE GOING 11:33.533 --> 11:35.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% FORWARD ON OTHER GOVERNORS AND 11:35.900 --> 11:38.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. 11:38.500 --> 11:39.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% >> CHAD? 11:39.533 --> 11:41.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% >> TO THAT POINT I MEAN THIS 11:41.033 --> 11:42.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE 11:42.366 --> 11:45.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS SOME REAL 11:45.466 --> 11:47.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE POLICIES 11:47.366 --> 11:49.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% RELATED TO NURSING EMHOWS AT THE 11:49.133 --> 11:50.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC. 11:50.600 --> 11:52.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% NURSING HOMES HAVE BEEN GROUND 11:52.633 --> 11:54.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% ZERO FOR DEATH IN THIS STATE. 11:54.633 --> 11:57.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% 37% OF THE DEATHS, 7.5% OF THE 11:57.700 --> 11:59.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% CASES IN MICHIGAN TOTALLY OUT OF 11:59.200 --> 11:59.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% WHACK. 11:59.733 --> 12:02.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND SO THE MEDIA YOU KNOW BEING 12:02.766 --> 12:04.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% IF I'M THE GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN 12:04.066 --> 12:05.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% RIGHT NOW I'M HAVING A LITTLE 12:05.200 --> 12:07.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BIT OF A PAUSE ABOUT AN ATTORNEY 12:07.866 --> 12:09.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% GENERAL GOING AFTER A GOVERNOR 12:09.233 --> 12:10.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OVER DECISION MAKING THAT WENT 12:10.866 --> 12:13.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MAYBE WAY FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. 12:13.166 --> 12:14.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AND THEN THERE IS A GENERAL 12:14.600 --> 12:17.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% QUESTION OF YOU KNOW, THE CASE 12:17.333 --> 12:19.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE 12:19.266 --> 12:21.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% INDICTMENTS THAT CAME DOWN 12:21.100 --> 12:22.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% YESTERDAY THERE IS NOT MUCH 12:22.366 --> 12:24.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% DIFFERENCE THAN WHAT TODD FLOOD 12:24.166 --> 12:29.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% UNDER BILL SCHUTTE AND THE 12:29.666 --> 12:32.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF GERD IS 12:32.833 --> 12:34.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BASED ON ALLEGED FALSE TESTIMONY 12:34.400 --> 12:38.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% HE MADE IN FEBRUARY OF 2017. 12:38.100 --> 12:41.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SAME THING FOR RICH BAIRD THE 12:41.400 --> 12:43.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% GOVERNOR'S FORMER RIGHT HAND MAN 12:43.833 --> 12:45.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% AND LOOKS LIKE THE SAME CASES 12:45.333 --> 12:47.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% WILL BE LAID OUT AS FAR AS 12:47.433 --> 12:50.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST NICK LIONS 12:50.566 --> 12:52.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THE FORMER HEALTH DIRECTOR AND 12:52.700 --> 12:55.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% EDEN WELLS THE FORMER CHIEF 12:55.266 --> 12:59.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% MEDICAL EXECUTIVE. 12:59.866 --> 13:01.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% SODA THAT NESSEL'S TEAM IS 13:01.766 --> 13:04.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% CARVING A VERY SIMILAR PATH THAT 13:04.033 --> 13:07.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BILL SCHUTTE'S TEAM WAS WELL 13:07.266 --> 13:10.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% DOWN BEFORE SHE DROPPED THOSE 13:10.033 --> 13:11.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% CHARGES IN JUNE OF 19 AND 13:11.866 --> 13:13.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% STARTED OVER. 13:13.066 --> 13:14.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> IN ALL THERE WERE 42 COUNTS 13:14.866 --> 13:16.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AGAINST THE NINE PEOPLE AND RICK 13:16.700 --> 13:18.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IF YOU LOOKED AT THE ALLEGATIONS 13:18.000 --> 13:20.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THAT THE AG'S OFFICE BROUGHT 13:20.100 --> 13:21.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% FORTH IT APPEARED FROM FIRST 13:21.966 --> 13:24.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BLUSH IT LOOKS LIKE RICH BAIRD 13:24.466 --> 13:27.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HAS THE MOST PROBLEMS EXTORTION, 13:27.233 --> 13:28.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% PERJURY AND TWO OTHER CHARGES IN 13:28.533 --> 13:28.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% THERE. 13:28.866 --> 13:30.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT? 13:30.566 --> 13:34.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> WELL, YOU ASKED EARLIER WAS I 13:34.233 --> 13:35.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SURPRISED, I WAS SURPRISED BY 13:35.400 --> 13:35.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% THOSE. 13:35.933 --> 13:36.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% THEY ARE DEALING WITH 13:36.500 --> 13:37.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% INFORMATION I DON'T HAVE. 13:37.366 --> 13:39.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 13:39.033 --> 13:39.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% THAT'S BASED ON. 13:39.900 --> 13:41.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% BUT YES I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. 13:41.133 --> 13:44.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% I THINK HE IS FACING A SERIOUS 13:44.266 --> 13:45.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% LEGAL HURDLE. 13:45.900 --> 13:48.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND I THINK IT WILL, AGAIN, IT'S 13:48.366 --> 13:49.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING 13:49.900 --> 13:51.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% FOR THOSE OF US WHO WILL WATCH 13:51.700 --> 13:55.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THIS CLOSELY TO SEE EXACTLY HOW 13:55.000 --> 13:57.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% DID THOSE CHARGES COME ABOUT. 13:57.000 --> 13:59.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% WHAT WAS THE THREAT APPARENTLY 13:59.900 --> 14:02.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% THAT HE MADE AGAINST 14:02.100 --> 14:03.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% INVESTIGATORS AT SOME POINT. 14:03.533 --> 14:05.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% YOU KNOW, HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT. 14:05.366 --> 14:06.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% WHAT WAS IT. 14:06.100 --> 14:09.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND AGAIN BEING VERY CAUTIOUS TO 14:09.066 --> 14:10.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% POINT OUT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY I 14:10.500 --> 14:11.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% STILL THINK THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP 14:11.766 --> 14:13.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IN MIND THAT ALL OF THESE ARE 14:13.433 --> 14:13.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% ALLEGATIONS. 14:13.833 --> 14:15.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVEN. 14:15.266 --> 14:16.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% NOTHING WILL BE PROVEN UNTIL 14:16.600 --> 14:17.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THIS GOES THROUGH THE COURT 14:17.800 --> 14:18.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% SYSTEM SO IT'S GOING TO BE 14:18.800 --> 14:21.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PROOF 14:21.000 --> 14:22.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE 14:22.566 --> 14:23.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% WILL BRING FORWARD. 14:23.566 --> 14:25.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BUT I WOULD THINK ALL OF THESE 14:25.133 --> 14:26.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THEM HAVE 14:26.600 --> 14:28.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% LESSER CONSEQUENCES I THINK THEY 14:28.533 --> 14:29.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% ARE ALL QUITE SERIOUS AND I 14:29.700 --> 14:32.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY 14:32.466 --> 14:34.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% INTERESTING SET OF TRIALS TO 14:34.766 --> 14:36.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% WATCH. 14:36.633 --> 14:38.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% >> TIM. 14:38.400 --> 14:41.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> WE HAVE TO CALL IN OUR GUEST 14:41.300 --> 14:43.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% REPRESENTATIVE TOM ALBERT ON 14:43.633 --> 14:48.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% WEST MICHIGAN AND THE HOUSE 14:48.766 --> 14:50.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND WE 14:50.666 --> 14:52.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% WILL GET STARTED WITH EMILY 14:52.333 --> 14:53.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW. 14:53.833 --> 14:54.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% >> THANKS TIM. 14:54.600 --> 14:55.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% >> HI REPRESENTATIVE. 14:55.733 --> 14:57.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% YOU KNOW, THE INCOMING 14:57.300 --> 15:00.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION JUST 15:00.333 --> 15:01.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% ANNOUNCED THEY ARE GOING TO TRY 15:01.600 --> 15:03.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% TO PASS ANOTHER 1.9 TRILLION 15:03.700 --> 15:06.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% DOLLAR STIMULUS PACKAGE. 15:06.000 --> 15:07.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% AND THE MICHIGAN STATE BUDGET 15:07.533 --> 15:09.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% CERTAINLY COULDN'T HAVE BEEN 15:09.200 --> 15:10.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% HEALTHY LAST YEAR WITHOUT 15:10.766 --> 15:11.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% FEDERAL AID. 15:11.833 --> 15:13.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% HOW MUCH AID DO YOU ANTICIPATE 15:13.600 --> 15:16.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WILL BE NECESSARY IN THE BUDGET 15:16.066 --> 15:18.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% GOING FORWARD AND WHAT KIND OF 15:18.600 --> 15:20.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% DEFICITS DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE 15:20.100 --> 15:20.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% STATE OF MICHIGAN WILL FACE 15:20.933 --> 15:24.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% BECAUSE OF COVID-19? 15:24.766 --> 15:27.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% >> YEAH, THANKS ABIGAIL. 15:27.400 --> 15:28.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. 15:28.100 --> 15:30.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% IT'S JUST THERE IS TOO MANY 15:30.833 --> 15:32.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% VARIABLES FOR ME TO REALLY HAVE 15:32.066 --> 15:33.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% AN ESTIMATE ON THAT. 15:33.133 --> 15:36.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% IF YOU LOOK SO THE CONSENSUS 15:36.800 --> 15:38.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% REVENUE CONFERENCE WILL COME OUT 15:38.600 --> 15:39.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% TODAY. 15:39.066 --> 15:42.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% AND IT'S GOING TO -- THE 15:42.266 --> 15:43.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% HEADLINE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE 15:43.366 --> 15:45.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IT'S AN ROSY PICTURE AND LOOK 15:45.000 --> 15:46.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% LIKE WE HAVE LOTS OF MONEY. 15:46.333 --> 15:49.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BUT THE REASON IT'S NOT ACTUALLY 15:49.000 --> 15:50.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THAT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS 15:50.700 --> 15:53.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BECAUSE WE HAD ESTIMATED A 15% 15:53.066 --> 15:55.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% REDUCTION IN REVENUE FOR TAX 15:55.766 --> 15:57.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% REVENUE AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING 15:57.500 --> 16:00.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MORE LIKE A 7% REDUCTION SO IT'S 16:00.100 --> 16:02.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% ACTUALLY LAST YEAR WAS NOT AS 16:02.300 --> 16:04.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% BAD AS WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS. 16:04.966 --> 16:05.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% SO I DON'T KNOW. 16:05.733 --> 16:07.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% LIKE ARE WE GOING TO START 16:07.466 --> 16:07.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% REOPENING? 16:07.800 --> 16:09.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ARE WE GOING TO START HAVING 16:09.366 --> 16:11.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% MORE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY FROM THE 16:11.000 --> 16:11.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% BOTTOM UP? 16:11.600 --> 16:13.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THAT JUST CHANGES SO MUCH OF 16:13.433 --> 16:15.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FOR REVENUES. 16:15.366 --> 16:17.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE HAVE SEEN 16:17.466 --> 16:20.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:75% LAST YEAR WAS IT WAS TOP DOWN. 16:20.100 --> 16:23.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE AS ROSY 16:23.300 --> 16:25.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OF A PICTURE AS WE HAVE NOW IS 16:25.300 --> 16:26.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LITERALLY 16:26.966 --> 16:28.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% PUMPED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO 16:28.833 --> 16:30.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% THE STATE OF MICHIGAN. 16:30.433 --> 16:35.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THAT WAS WAS PPP LOAN AND 600, 16:35.200 --> 16:37.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% UIA AND DIRECT PAYMENTS TO 16:37.333 --> 16:39.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% TAXPAYERS ALL OF THAT MONEY CAME 16:39.066 --> 16:41.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IN THROUGH SALES TAX REVENUE AND 16:41.566 --> 16:43.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% YOU KNOW CORPORATE INCOME TAX 16:43.366 --> 16:44.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% WAS HIGH AS WELL. 16:44.366 --> 16:45.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% SO I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION 16:45.966 --> 16:47.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% AS TO WHAT TO EXPECT. 16:47.600 --> 16:49.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT OUT OF 16:49.500 --> 16:52.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% THE WOODS. 16:52.266 --> 16:54.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> REPRESENTATIVE TIM STARTED BY 16:54.400 --> 16:55.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% CONGRATULATING YOU ON YOUR NEW 16:55.500 --> 16:55.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5% POSITION. 16:55.900 --> 16:57.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% I GUESS I WILL DO THAT TOO WITH 16:57.266 --> 16:59.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% A BIT OF CAUTION BECAUSE THERE 16:59.666 --> 17:01.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% COULD BE SOME INCOMING FIRE IN 17:01.400 --> 17:03.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THIS NEW POSITION GIVEN THE 17:03.500 --> 17:04.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% PRESSURES THAT MAY BE ON THE 17:04.833 --> 17:06.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% STATE BUDGET AND ALSO THE 17:06.933 --> 17:07.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% DIFFERENCES THAT THE 17:07.733 --> 17:09.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% REPUBLICAN-LED HOUSE AND SENATE 17:09.766 --> 17:11.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% MAY HAVE WITH THIS GOVERNOR. 17:11.133 --> 17:12.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION 17:12.333 --> 17:14.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% ABOUT WITHHOLDING MONEY OR 17:14.400 --> 17:16.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% WITHHOLDING FUNDS FROM SOME 17:16.633 --> 17:17.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% EXPENDITURES. 17:17.766 --> 17:19.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% UNTIL THE GOVERNOR MORE FULLY 17:19.700 --> 17:21.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% OPENS UP THE STATE, CAN YOU 17:21.666 --> 17:22.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT? 17:22.933 --> 17:25.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AND WHAT THE -- HOW SERIOUS THAT 17:25.633 --> 17:29.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% IS AND ALSO HOW FINANCIALLY 17:29.533 --> 17:31.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% RESPONSIBLE OR IRRESPONSIBLE 17:31.266 --> 17:33.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% THAT WOULD BE? 17:33.366 --> 17:34.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% >> WELL THANKS FOR THAT 17:34.366 --> 17:35.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5% QUESTION, RICK. 17:35.466 --> 17:36.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% I THINK IT'S FUNNY THE WAY MY 17:36.966 --> 17:38.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% PRESS RELEASE HAS BEEN PRESENTED 17:38.300 --> 17:39.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% IN THE MEDIA. 17:39.533 --> 17:41.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% I ACTUALLY DID NOT USE THE WORD 17:41.533 --> 17:42.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% WITHHOLDING ONCE THIS THAT 17:42.400 --> 17:43.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5% ENTIRE RELEASE. 17:43.066 --> 17:45.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WHAT I SAID WAS UNLESS WE START 17:45.566 --> 17:46.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% REOPENING I'M NOT GOING TO START 17:46.666 --> 17:47.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE 17:47.866 --> 17:51.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% GOVERNOR SO WE NEED TO HAVE 17:51.166 --> 17:52.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE 17:52.166 --> 17:52.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% STATE. 17:52.466 --> 17:54.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE HAVE NOT OVER THIS LAST YEAR. 17:54.500 --> 17:56.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE GOVERNOR HAS CONTINUED TO 17:56.500 --> 17:58.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% TRY TO MAKE UNILATERAL 17:58.400 --> 17:58.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% DECISIONS. 17:58.900 --> 18:00.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% AND SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN 18:00.100 --> 18:05.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% VERY, VERY DISERASTOUS. 18:05.533 --> 18:07.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IT'S MY 18:07.566 --> 18:15.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% RESPONSIBILITY THE LEGISLATURE 18:15.466 --> 18:17.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% HAS THE POWER OF THE PURSE AND 18:17.066 --> 18:18.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE WILL MAKE SURE THE MONEY GETS 18:18.333 --> 18:20.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% OUT THERE IN WAYS THAT BOTH CAN 18:20.700 --> 18:22.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY IN A 18:22.333 --> 18:25.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% LOT OF NEED RIGHT NOW AND ALSO 18:25.000 --> 18:26.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AT THE SAME TIME MAKING SURE WE 18:26.466 --> 18:29.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES. 18:29.566 --> 18:31.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> BUT REPRESENTATIVE YOU'RE NOT 18:31.500 --> 18:33.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% GOING TO TALK TO HER. 18:33.400 --> 18:35.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% YOU AND THE SENATE WILL DO THIS 18:35.366 --> 18:36.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% ON YOUR OWN AND JUST LEAVE HER 18:36.966 --> 18:37.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:10% OUT? 18:37.566 --> 18:39.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% >> IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR. 18:39.000 --> 18:40.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING 18:40.100 --> 18:41.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS NEVER 18:41.533 --> 18:43.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% DONE EVEN IN MY TENURE. 18:43.566 --> 18:45.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% IN 2017 WHEN I WAS WORKING ON 18:45.433 --> 18:47.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% PENSION REFORM FOR THE STATE 18:47.200 --> 18:49.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% TEACHERS PENSION SYSTEM THE 18:49.266 --> 18:50.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% GOVERNOR WAS NOT ON THE SAME 18:50.466 --> 18:52.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% PAGE AS THE LEGISLATURE SO HE 18:52.366 --> 18:53.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% WASN'T INVOLVED IN BUDGET 18:53.966 --> 18:55.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL HE DECIDED TO 18:55.700 --> 18:57.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% WORK WITH US. 18:57.533 --> 18:58.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% >> LET'S BE CLEAR HERE IF SHE 18:58.933 --> 19:00.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO REOPEN ON 19:00.533 --> 19:02.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% YOUR SCHEDULE BUT ON MY SCHEDULE 19:02.333 --> 19:04.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% YOU WON'T TALK TO HER ON COVID 19:04.400 --> 19:07.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% SPENDING, FAIR STATEMENT? 19:07.033 --> 19:08.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> LET'S HOPE IT DOESN'T COME TO 19:08.266 --> 19:09.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% THAT, TIM. 19:09.133 --> 19:10.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% >> WELL, IS THAT A FAIR 19:10.200 --> 19:13.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% STATEMENT? 19:13.200 --> 19:14.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> TIM, I'M GOING TO STICK TO MY 19:14.633 --> 19:16.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% GUNS ON THIS AND STICK TO MY 19:16.233 --> 19:16.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% STATEMENT. 19:16.700 --> 19:17.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SHE STARTS REOPENING WE WILL 19:17.966 --> 19:19.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% START TALKING. 19:19.366 --> 19:24.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> AND IF SHE DOESN'T YOU WON'T? 19:24.433 --> 19:25.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% >> HOPEFULLY SHE GETS THE 19:25.500 --> 19:26.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% MESSAGE. 19:26.900 --> 19:28.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% >> CHAD. 19:28.700 --> 19:29.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% >> REPRESENTATIVE, THERE IS 19:29.466 --> 19:32.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% NOTHING YOU CAN REALLY DO IN 19:32.333 --> 19:34.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% BOILERPLATE TO YOU KNOW MANDATE 19:34.500 --> 19:35.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% REOPENINGS. 19:35.366 --> 19:38.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:52.5% SHE CAN JUST SAY IT'S 19:38.666 --> 19:40.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% UNENFORCEABLE BOILERPLATE OR 19:40.533 --> 19:43.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% LINE ITEM VETO YOUR SPENDING 19:43.633 --> 19:45.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% DECISIONS OR VETO THE WHOLE 19:45.466 --> 19:45.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% THING. 19:45.966 --> 19:47.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SHE IS NOT AFRAID TO DO THAT, 19:47.800 --> 19:49.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SHE HAS PROVEN THAT A COUPLE 19:49.733 --> 19:50.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% TIMES NOW RIGHT? 19:50.700 --> 19:52.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% >> SHE HAS VETOED FUNDING FOR 19:52.700 --> 19:54.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SCHOOL SAFETY GRANTS AND AUTISM 19:54.766 --> 19:58.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND WILLING TO REALLY VETO WHAT 19:58.033 --> 20:00.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% EVER NEEDED TO USE THE PEOPLE OF 20:00.300 --> 20:02.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% MICHIGAN AS PAWNS TO MEET HER 20:02.000 --> 20:03.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% POLITICAL OBJECTIVE. 20:03.033 --> 20:04.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% SO YOU KNOW I WOULD AGREE WITH 20:04.200 --> 20:06.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5% THAT. 20:06.000 --> 20:08.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% >> WHAT IS THE LEGISLATURE'S 20:08.433 --> 20:10.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% PACKAGE OF POLICIES GOING 20:10.800 --> 20:12.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% FORWARD WITH DEALING WITH THE 20:12.966 --> 20:14.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5% PANDEMIC? 20:14.866 --> 20:16.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BECAUSE AS WE NOTED EARLIER, 20:16.933 --> 20:20.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FOLKS AGE 16 AND UP WHO ARE NOT 20:20.466 --> 20:22.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% IN ONE OF THESE OR BASICALLY 20:22.366 --> 20:25.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% 16-65 THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO 20:25.800 --> 20:27.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% GET THE VACCINE UNTIL MID TO 20:27.533 --> 20:30.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% LATE SUMMER AT THIS RATE OF ROLL 20:30.166 --> 20:32.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% OUT BASED ON HOW THE FEDERAL 20:32.333 --> 20:33.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% GOVERNMENT HAS DONE SO FAR. 20:33.566 --> 20:36.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% SO WHAT IS THE LEGISLATURE'S 20:36.033 --> 20:38.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% PLAN FOR MITIGATING, YOU KNOW, 20:38.666 --> 20:41.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% MORE DEATH IN THIS STATE? 20:41.933 --> 20:43.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% >> WELL, ONE THING I THINK 20:43.400 --> 20:45.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% BEFORE I GET TO THAT ONE THING I 20:45.400 --> 20:46.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO 20:46.833 --> 20:48.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% POINT OUT ONE THING I WOULD DO 20:48.900 --> 20:50.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% DIFFERENTLY IF I WAS IN CHARGE 20:50.633 --> 20:52.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE WOULD HAVE A COUNTY BY COUNTY 20:52.233 --> 20:53.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% APPROACH BASED ON DATA. 20:53.300 --> 20:55.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% RIGHT NOW HERE IS THE PROBLEM WE 20:55.433 --> 20:57.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% WERE 48 HOURS BEFORE THE 20:57.133 --> 20:59.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% DEADLINE WAS SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE 20:59.233 --> 21:01.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% TODAY ON THE 15TH AND RESTAURANT 21:01.066 --> 21:02.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% OWNERS HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO 21:02.400 --> 21:03.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% EXPECT. 21:03.400 --> 21:07.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% AND EVEN CALIFORNIA HAS A 21:07.266 --> 21:09.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% METRIC-BASED SYSTEM SO BUSINESS 21:09.700 --> 21:11.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% OWNERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING 21:11.833 --> 21:13.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% TO WORK TO PUT A ROOF OVER THEIR 21:13.833 --> 21:15.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% HEAD AND FEED THEIR KIDS CAN AT 21:15.733 --> 21:17.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% LEAST HAVE SOME HOPE AND SOME 21:17.133 --> 21:19.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IDEA AND SOME CLARITY AS TO WHEN 21:19.833 --> 21:21.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO 21:21.000 --> 21:22.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% BACK TO WORK. 21:22.600 --> 21:23.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% IT'S NOT THAT HARD. 21:23.766 --> 21:26.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I MEAN, IT CAN BE BASED -- OTHER 21:26.400 --> 21:28.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% STATES BASED ON POSITIVITY RATES 21:28.166 --> 21:30.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% OF TESTING, BASED ON CASE 21:30.033 --> 21:33.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% GROWTH, BASED ON HOSPITALIZATION 21:33.900 --> 21:35.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% RATE IN THAT REGION SO THAT IS A 21:35.266 --> 21:38.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT I 21:38.166 --> 21:39.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% WANT TO GET OUT THERE. 21:39.200 --> 21:41.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO JUST 21:41.400 --> 21:43.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% CART BLANCHE OPEN THE STATE AND 21:43.900 --> 21:45.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% NOT HAVE ANY THOUGHT OR ANY 21:45.766 --> 21:47.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% ANALYSIS INTO HOW TO DO IT 21:47.333 --> 21:47.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% SAFELY. 21:47.633 --> 21:49.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% I'M JUST SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE 21:49.133 --> 21:50.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MORE TRANSPARENT AND PEOPLE NEED 21:50.966 --> 21:53.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 21:53.166 --> 21:56.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:62.5% THEY'RE EXPECTATIONS ARE. 21:56.266 --> 21:58.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% NOW AS TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE 21:58.100 --> 21:59.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% DIFFERENT AGES AND WHEN THEY 21:59.500 --> 22:02.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% WILL GET VACCINES IT'S 22:02.433 --> 22:03.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR AND JUST 22:03.400 --> 22:05.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% LOOKED AT C.D.C.'S DATA FROM THE 22:05.400 --> 22:07.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% PAST WEEK IF YOU ARE UNDER 50 22:07.133 --> 22:08.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% YEARS OLD IF YOU LOOK AT THE 22:08.333 --> 22:10.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% NUMBER OF KNOWN POSITIVE CASES 22:10.766 --> 22:13.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND MORTALITIES THERE IS .3% OF 22:13.066 --> 22:15.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:15% DEATH. 22:15.666 --> 22:18.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% UP TO 85 AND OLDER THE MORTALITY 22:18.400 --> 22:20.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% IS 21% SO THERE IS A PRETTY 22:20.300 --> 22:21.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% STARK DIFFERENCE AND THAT GOES 22:21.533 --> 22:23.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IN THE VACCINE ROLL OUT, VACCINE 22:23.800 --> 22:26.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% ROLL OUT HAS BEEN AN UTTER 22:26.266 --> 22:26.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:22.5% DISASTER. 22:26.700 --> 22:28.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% I DID LOGISTICS IN THE MARINE 22:28.766 --> 22:30.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% CORPS SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT 22:30.033 --> 22:31.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA. 22:31.433 --> 22:32.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:55% AND I CAN TELL YOU THE 22:32.566 --> 22:33.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WE HAVE 22:33.400 --> 22:35.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% RIGHT NOW IS IT'S A TOP DOWN 22:35.133 --> 22:36.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% APPROACH AND PEOPLE THAT ARE 22:36.100 --> 22:37.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ARE NOT 22:37.866 --> 22:40.133 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% HAVING INPUT IN DECISIONS. 22:40.133 --> 22:41.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% I TALKED TO HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS 22:41.833 --> 22:42.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THEY HAVE 22:42.966 --> 22:44.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN 22:44.166 --> 22:45.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THE SHIPMENTS WILL COME IN AND 22:45.700 --> 22:47.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% HOW MANY THEY WILL GET. 22:47.000 --> 22:47.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE 22:47.933 --> 22:49.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% MIGHT BE AN ISSUE OF THE STATES 22:49.266 --> 22:50.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% NOT GETTING AS MUCH OF THE 22:50.733 --> 22:52.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% VACCINES AS THEY WANT, THEY CAN 22:52.700 --> 22:54.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% STILL PLAN PROPERLY WITH WHAT 22:54.100 --> 22:55.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% THEY HAVE. 22:55.300 --> 22:57.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% SO AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT 22:57.366 --> 22:59.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% BECAUSE THE FIRST SHOT IS THE 22:59.600 --> 23:01.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:42.5% TWO-SHOT PROCESS. 23:01.400 --> 23:03.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% THE FIRST SHOT ONLY IS 52% 23:03.866 --> 23:04.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% EFFECTIVE. 23:04.433 --> 23:06.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% BUT THREE WEEKS LATER AND IT'S 23:06.300 --> 23:07.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% VERY IMPORTANT YOU GET IT IN 23:07.866 --> 23:09.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THAT THREE WEEK WINDOW BECAUSE 23:09.400 --> 23:11.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE IF YOU GET IT 23:11.466 --> 23:13.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AT A DIFFERENT TIMEFRAME IT GOES 23:13.066 --> 23:16.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% UP TO 95 PERCENT EFFECTIVE SO 23:16.200 --> 23:17.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% HOSPITALS ARE CONCERNED WHEN IT 23:17.733 --> 23:18.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% COMES TO THE SECOND SHOT THEY 23:18.800 --> 23:20.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WON'T HAVE THE SUPPLY THEY NEED. 23:20.966 --> 23:21.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> REPRESENTATIVE DO YOU SUPPORT 23:21.800 --> 23:23.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THE BAN OF OPEN CARRY IN THE 23:23.533 --> 23:25.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% MICHIGAN LEGISLATURE, SIR? 23:25.366 --> 23:27.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% >> I DO NOT SUPPORT THE CAPITOL 23:27.500 --> 23:28.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% COMMISSION DOING IT. 23:28.566 --> 23:32.366 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% I DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE THE 23:32.366 --> 23:33.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% AUTHORITY TO DO SO. 23:33.066 --> 23:35.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT 23:35.100 --> 23:36.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME 23:36.466 --> 23:38.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE CHANNEL 23:38.100 --> 23:39.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% AND WE ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD 23:39.600 --> 23:40.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% BE MAKING DETERMINATIONS LIKE 23:40.466 --> 23:41.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:12.5% THAT. 23:41.000 --> 23:42.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> IS THE LEGISLATURE GOING TO 23:42.400 --> 23:45.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% VOTE TO UNDO THAT? 23:45.433 --> 23:47.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR SPEAKER 23:47.166 --> 23:48.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:25% WENTWORTH. 23:48.700 --> 23:51.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% >> WELL. 23:51.100 --> 23:52.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% >> ON THE BOARD. 23:52.000 --> 23:54.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% >> WELL, YOU WOULD SUPPORT A 23:54.100 --> 23:56.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% BILL TO UNDO WHAT THE CAPITOL 23:56.666 --> 24:00.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% COMMISSION DID, IS THAT FAIR? 24:00.500 --> 24:01.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT THAT 24:01.766 --> 24:04.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% WAY, TIM, IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M 24:04.300 --> 24:05.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% AGAINST IT. 24:05.400 --> 24:07.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% I'M IN THE CAPITOL AND I HAVE A 24:07.033 --> 24:08.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% FAMILY TO SUPPORT AND WANT TO 24:08.200 --> 24:09.433 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:50% MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. 24:09.433 --> 24:12.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% I HAVE YOU KNOW THE MOST 24:12.500 --> 24:13.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% CONFIDENCE I COULD HAVE IN OUR 24:13.666 --> 24:15.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN 24:15.566 --> 24:17.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE CAPITOL AND THE STATE POLICE 24:17.333 --> 24:17.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5% THAT ARE THERE. 24:17.866 --> 24:19.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB. 24:19.800 --> 24:21.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THAT BEING SAID I'M A STRONG 24:21.533 --> 24:22.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% SUPPORTER OF THE SECOND 24:22.466 --> 24:24.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AMENDMENT BUT THE OPEN CARRY ON 24:24.466 --> 24:25.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% THE CAPITOL I DON'T THINK IS 24:25.533 --> 24:26.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% NECESSARY AND IF THERE IS A BILL 24:26.833 --> 24:28.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% TO YOU KNOW TO REMOVE OPEN CAR 24:28.233 --> 24:29.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ARE I IN THE CAPITOL I WOULD 24:29.800 --> 24:31.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% SUPPORT IT. 24:31.066 --> 24:32.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> TWO MINUTES LEFT ABIGAIL THEN 24:32.966 --> 24:34.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WE WILL DO OVER TIME BUT ABIGAIL 24:34.700 --> 24:36.200 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% BACK TO YOU. 24:36.200 --> 24:37.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> YOU KNOW ONE OF THE REASONS 24:37.433 --> 24:38.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE CAPITOL COMMISSION SAID THIS 24:38.966 --> 24:40.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% WEEK THAT THEY DIDN'T GO AS FAR 24:40.866 --> 24:42.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% AS BANNING CONCEALED CARRY IN 24:42.700 --> 24:44.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% THE CAPITOL WAS BECAUSE OF 24:44.666 --> 24:45.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% BUDGET CONCERNS. 24:45.900 --> 24:47.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE AN 24:47.233 --> 24:49.066 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% APPETITE THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE 24:49.066 --> 24:52.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% TO PASS A BILL BANNING CONCEALED 24:52.333 --> 24:54.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% CARRY OR APPROPRIATE SOME FUNDS 24:54.533 --> 24:56.400 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% AT LEAST FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS 24:56.400 --> 24:59.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% TO CHECK PERMITS OR HAVE METAL 24:59.966 --> 25:01.866 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% DETECTORS OR BAG CHECKS, THAT 25:01.866 --> 25:03.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% KIND OF THING? 25:03.966 --> 25:04.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% >> I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING 25:04.700 --> 25:05.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% THAT COULD BE EXPLORED THROUGH 25:05.833 --> 25:08.100 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. 25:08.100 --> 25:10.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% YOU KNOW, CHAD, YOUR POINT YOU 25:10.066 --> 25:11.500 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HAD MADE EARLIER ABOUT COMPARING 25:11.500 --> 25:13.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% THE STATE CAPITOL TO THE FEDERAL 25:13.266 --> 25:14.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BUILDINGS AND THE COURTHOUSE 25:14.166 --> 25:16.333 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 25:16.333 --> 25:17.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:57.5% FAIRWAY TO THINK OF IT. 25:17.833 --> 25:19.266 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN 25:19.266 --> 25:20.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MIND I IMAGINE TENS OF THOUSANDS 25:20.900 --> 25:22.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% OF ESPECIALLY FOURTH GRADERS 25:22.666 --> 25:24.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% COME THROUGH THE CAPITOL EVERY 25:24.033 --> 25:26.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% YEAR, SO YOU KNOW LOGISTICALLY 25:26.200 --> 25:28.000 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% ARE WE GOING TO YOU KNOW MAKE IT 25:28.000 --> 25:30.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% SO HARD FOR GROUPS LIKE THAT TO 25:30.566 --> 25:31.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% COME THROUGH THAT WE ARE 25:31.566 --> 25:33.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% ACTUALLY CLOSING OFF THE PEOPLE 25:33.233 --> 25:34.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OF MICHIGAN BEING ABLE TO COME 25:34.800 --> 25:37.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% AND YOU KNOW, LEARN THE HISTORY 25:37.000 --> 25:38.233 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:37.5% OF THEIR STATE. 25:38.233 --> 25:39.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% SO I DO THINK THAT IS AN 25:39.166 --> 25:40.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION TO KEEP 25:40.600 --> 25:42.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:40% IN MIND AS WELL. 25:42.966 --> 25:45.933 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THERE WOULD BE A BIG COST TO DO 25:45.933 --> 25:47.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% TO ADD METAL DETECTORS AND 25:47.800 --> 25:49.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% ADDITIONAL SECURITY AND THAT'S 25:49.066 --> 25:50.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% THE TYPE OF THING WHERE I WOULD 25:50.633 --> 25:52.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% NEED TO SEE WHAT THE LAW 25:52.566 --> 25:53.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE 25:53.700 --> 25:54.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:67.5% RECOMMENDING BEFORE I COULD 25:54.600 --> 25:56.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 25:56.466 --> 25:58.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% >> VERY GOOD REPRESENTATIVE WE 25:58.133 --> 25:59.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% ARE GOING TO DO AN OVER TIME 25:59.966 --> 26:01.733 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% SEGMENT AND WRAP UP IN THE 26:01.733 --> 26:03.766 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% GOVERNOR ACCUSED OR ALLEGED THAT 26:03.766 --> 26:05.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% YOU WERE HOLDING THE COVID MONEY 26:05.966 --> 26:07.833 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% HOSTAGE DO YOU PLEAD GUILTY YEAH 26:07.833 --> 26:09.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:17.5% OR NAY? 26:09.933 --> 26:11.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> DID I USE THE WORD HOSTAGE IN 26:11.966 --> 26:13.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% THAT PRESS RELEASE? 26:13.900 --> 26:14.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:27.5% >> SHE DID. 26:14.566 --> 26:16.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% SHE USED THE WORD HOSTAGE. 26:16.933 --> 26:18.466 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% >> ALL I SAID IS I WOULD LIKE TO 26:18.466 --> 26:19.800 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:35% WORK TOGETHER. 26:19.800 --> 26:21.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:32.5% >> VERY GOOD. 26:21.566 --> 26:23.566 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:45% I WANT TO GO HOME. 26:23.566 --> 26:25.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% OKAY SIT TIGHT WE WILL BE BACK 26:25.433 --> 26:28.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% WITH AFTER CLOSED CREDITS WITH 26:28.200 --> 26:30.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:47.5% MORE WITH THE CHAIR 26:30.966 --> 26:32.666 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE 26:32.666 --> 26:34.166 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:65% REPRESENTATIVE TOM ALBERT. 26:34.166 --> 26:34.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 26:34.866 --> 26:35.533 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE 26:35.533 --> 26:36.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:77.5% FOLLOWING, BUSINESS LEADERS FOR 26:36.233 --> 26:36.933 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MICHIGAN HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN TO 26:36.933 --> 26:37.633 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% MAKE MICHIGAN A TOP TEN STATE IN 26:37.633 --> 26:38.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% THE NATION FOR JOBS, PERSONAL 26:38.300 --> 26:38.966 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:70% INCOME AND A HEALTHY ECONOMY 26:38.966 --> 26:39.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.66% size:75% LEARN MORE AT MICHIGAN ROAD TO 26:39.666 --> 26:40.033 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:30% TOP TEN.COM. 26:40.033 --> 26:40.700 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% FOR MORE OFF THE RECORD VISIT 26:40.700 --> 26:41.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% WKAR.ORG MICHIGAN PUBLIC 26:41.300 --> 26:41.900 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:60% TELEVISION STATIONS HAVE 26:41.900 --> 26:42.600 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:72.5% CONTRIBUTED TO THE PRODUCTION 26:42.600 --> 26:43.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:80% COSTS OF OFF THE RECORD WITH TIM 26:43.300 --> 26:44.300 align:start position:10% line:84.66% size:20% SKUBICK.