1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:03,533 ♪ 2 00:00:03,533 --> 00:00:05,900 WELCOME BACK OUR GUEST THIS WEEK 3 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:07,800 IS JOSH HOVEY ONE OF THE LEADERS 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,233 OF THE COALITION SEEKING TO 5 00:00:09,233 --> 00:00:10,200 LEGALIZE POT. 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,266 OUR LEAD STORY LAWMAKERS KILLED 7 00:00:12,266 --> 00:00:14,066 THE PREVAILING WAGE AND THEY 8 00:00:14,066 --> 00:00:15,500 DECIDE TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE 9 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:16,500 THE POT ISSUE. 10 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:18,866 ON THE OTR PANEL JONATHAN 11 00:00:18,866 --> 00:00:22,133 OOSTING KATHY GRAY AND ZOE CLARK 12 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:24,533 SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET THE 13 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:26,033 INSIDE OUT "OFF THE RECORD." 14 00:00:26,033 --> 00:00:27,166 ♪ 15 00:00:27,166 --> 00:00:28,333 PRODUCTION OF "OFF THE RECORD" 16 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:30,666 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 17 00:00:30,666 --> 00:00:32,033 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN 18 00:00:32,033 --> 00:00:35,000 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BIPARTISAN 19 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,800 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION FIRM 20 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,300 SERVING STATEWIDE NATIONAL AND 21 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,000 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 22 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,466 OFFICES IN LANSING DETROIT AND 23 00:00:41,466 --> 00:00:42,166 GRAND RAPIDS, 24 00:00:42,166 --> 00:00:44,200 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 25 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,166 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 26 00:00:46,166 --> 00:00:47,166 CONDITIONING COMPANY SERVING THE 27 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:49,833 GREATER LANSING AREA SINCE 1941 28 00:00:49,833 --> 00:00:50,933 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 29 00:00:50,933 --> 00:00:52,666 FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 30 00:00:52,666 --> 00:00:55,566 MICHIGAN SEASONS. 31 00:00:55,566 --> 00:00:56,200 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 32 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,266 CONDITIONINGER FOX AND BRYANT 33 00:00:57,266 --> 00:01:00,633 WHATEVER IT TAKES HAGER FOX.COM 34 00:01:00,633 --> 00:01:04,133 AND BY MSU NATURAL RESOURCES 35 00:01:04,133 --> 00:01:05,066 MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WANTS 36 00:01:05,066 --> 00:01:07,000 TO BE A TRUSTED PARTNER IN 37 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FOOD AND 38 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,833 WHERE IT COMES FROM INCLUDING 39 00:01:09,833 --> 00:01:11,433 ITS IMPACT ON OUR HEALTH AND ON 40 00:01:11,433 --> 00:01:13,333 OUR PLANET LEARN MORE AT 41 00:01:13,333 --> 00:01:17,300 FOOD.MSU.EDU AND NOW THIS 42 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:18,600 EDITION OF "OFF THE RECORD" WITH 43 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,100 TIM SKUBICK. 44 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:21,133 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND 45 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:22,566 WELCOME BACK TO OUR PROGRAM NICE 46 00:01:22,566 --> 00:01:25,433 TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD A BUSY NEWS 47 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:26,766 WEEK INCLUDING GETTING RID OF 48 00:01:26,766 --> 00:01:28,833 THE PREVAILING WAGE THING THE 49 00:01:28,833 --> 00:01:29,933 UNIONS DIDN'T LIKE THAT. 50 00:01:29,933 --> 00:01:31,800 IT WAS FREE ICE CREAM DAY AT THE 51 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,800 STATE CAPITOL BUT THERE WAS SOME 52 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,566 MORE SERIOUS STUFF GOING ON 53 00:01:35,566 --> 00:01:37,600 STATE TROOPER CARS WERE PARKED 54 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,233 OUTSIDE THE CAPITOL WHILE DOZENS 55 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,900 OF TROOPERS WERE STATIONED 56 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:43,233 INSIDE AS LAWMAKERS PREPARED TO 57 00:01:43,233 --> 00:01:45,033 REPAIL THE PREVAILING WAGE OVER 58 00:01:45,033 --> 00:01:46,733 THE OBJECTIONS ON ORGANIZED 59 00:01:46,733 --> 00:01:49,166 LABOR A LOCAL STATE SENATOR TOOK 60 00:01:49,166 --> 00:01:50,266 EXCEPTION TO THE TROOPERS BEING 61 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:50,666 THERE. 62 00:01:50,666 --> 00:01:52,066 >> WE HAVE OPEN CARRY DAY IN 63 00:01:52,066 --> 00:01:54,400 THIS BUILDING AND THERE IS NOT A 64 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,533 TROOPER TO BE SEEN BUT ALL THE 65 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:57,166 SUDDEN WORKING MEN AND WELCOME 66 00:01:57,166 --> 00:01:58,700 HERE AND TRY TO STEAL YOUR WAGES 67 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:00,100 AND BENEFITS AND THEY SHOW UP 68 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:01,466 ALL OVER THE PLACE. 69 00:02:01,466 --> 00:02:02,966 >> UNION MEMBERS ARGUE THEIR 70 00:02:02,966 --> 00:02:05,133 PAYCHECKS WILL BE CUT IF 71 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:06,766 PREVAILING WAGES ARE ELIMINATED. 72 00:02:06,766 --> 00:02:08,366 >> INDIANA REPEALED PREVAILING 73 00:02:08,366 --> 00:02:10,933 WAGE IN 2015 AVERAGE WORKER WAGE 74 00:02:10,933 --> 00:02:13,833 DECREASE 8.5%. 75 00:02:13,833 --> 00:02:15,800 8.5%. 76 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,366 LOWEST PAID WORKERS ON THIS 77 00:02:18,366 --> 00:02:20,400 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS UP TO 15%. 78 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,433 >> THE COKE LOBBYIST IS ABOUT 79 00:02:23,433 --> 00:02:24,900 SAVING TAX COLORS ON 80 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:25,900 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE 81 00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:27,133 FORCED TO PAY THOSE HIGHER 82 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:27,500 WAGES. 83 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,233 >> WE NEED TO ALLOW SMALL 84 00:02:29,233 --> 00:02:30,433 COMPANIES WE NEED TO ALLOW 85 00:02:30,433 --> 00:02:31,500 GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE 86 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:33,500 THE LOWEST QUALIFIED BIDDER AND 87 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:36,200 NOT FORCE ARTIFICIAL PERIMETERS 88 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,466 ON THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO 89 00:02:37,466 --> 00:02:38,266 DRIVE THE COST UP. 90 00:02:38,266 --> 00:02:40,100 >> THE GOVERNOR CONTENDS IN 91 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,233 ORDER TO ATTRACT MORE SKILLED 92 00:02:42,233 --> 00:02:43,433 WORKERS THE PREVAILING WAGE 93 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:45,133 SHOULD REMAIN BUT ONLY A HANDFUL 94 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:46,766 OF REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS AGREED 95 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:47,800 WITH HIM AND THE GOVERNOR'S 96 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,166 OFFICE WAS NOT LOBBYING TO KILL 97 00:02:49,166 --> 00:02:50,900 THIS LEGISLATIVE EFFORT. 98 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:52,433 >> AFTER OVER AN HOUR OF 99 00:02:52,433 --> 00:02:53,900 RESPECTFUL DEBATE THE TWO SIDES 100 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:56,433 VOTED AND THE HOUSE VOTED 56-53 101 00:02:56,433 --> 00:02:58,133 TO REPEAL THE WAGE. 102 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,300 >> MAJORITY SERVING HAVING VOTED 103 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:02,333 THERE FOR THE INITIATIVE IS 104 00:03:02,333 --> 00:03:02,866 ADOPTED. 105 00:03:02,866 --> 00:03:06,133 [ SCREAMS ] 106 00:03:06,133 --> 00:03:08,433 CRIED FOUL THE LABOR MEMBERS 107 00:03:08,433 --> 00:03:11,033 OBJECTED BUT ALL FOR NAUGHT THE 108 00:03:11,033 --> 00:03:12,300 PREVAILING WAGE BASED ON THE 109 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:13,733 SENATE APPROVAL EARLIER TODAY 110 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:15,933 AND THE HOUSE PASSAGE THIS 111 00:03:15,933 --> 00:03:17,300 AFTERNOON IS NOW DEAD. 112 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:18,366 >> JONATHAN WHY DID REPUBLICANS 113 00:03:18,366 --> 00:03:20,266 WANT TO DO THIS? 114 00:03:20,266 --> 00:03:21,466 >> WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING 115 00:03:21,466 --> 00:03:24,133 FOR THREE YEARS TO DO THIS AND 116 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:25,600 THE SENATE ACTUALLY PASSED THIS 117 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,700 IN 2015 SENATOR ME, KHOF HAS 118 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:31,700 BEEN PUSHING IT AND REITERATED 119 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:33,066 ON YOUR OPENING IS TAXPAYERS 120 00:03:33,066 --> 00:03:35,100 HAVE TO PAY ARTIFICIALLY HIGH 121 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:36,633 WAGES ON CERTAIN GOVERNMENT 122 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:38,400 PROJECTS LIKE SCHOOLS, LIKE 123 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,833 GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS AND YOU 124 00:03:40,833 --> 00:03:42,766 KNOW IT'S A FREE MARKET 125 00:03:42,766 --> 00:03:44,600 PRINCIPLE THAT SHOULDN'T 126 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,466 ARTIFICIALLY SET WAGES. 127 00:03:45,466 --> 00:03:46,600 >> I THINK YOU SAW THE BEGINNING 128 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,766 OF THE 2018 ELECTION CYCLE 129 00:03:49,766 --> 00:03:50,566 OFFICIALLY START THERE BECAUSE 130 00:03:50,566 --> 00:03:52,200 THIS IS A MESSAGE FOR BOTH OF 131 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,633 THEM TO USE THE REPUBLICANS CAN 132 00:03:53,633 --> 00:03:56,200 INTO BACK AND SAY WE ARE SAVING 133 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,266 TAXPAYER MONEY AND DEMOCRATS 134 00:03:57,266 --> 00:03:59,500 TRYING TO REVEAL TO THE SKILLED 135 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,566 TRADE WORKERSS WHO MAYBE VOTED 136 00:04:01,566 --> 00:04:03,033 FOR DONALD TRUMP IN 2016 LOOK 137 00:04:03,033 --> 00:04:04,600 THE REPUBLICANS CUT YOUR WAGES. 138 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,000 >> SOME OF THE UNIONS ENDORSE 139 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,833 FOR INSTANCE RICK SNYDER IN 2010 140 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:10,966 THE REPUBLICAN THE CARPENTERS 141 00:04:10,966 --> 00:04:13,566 UNION ENDORSED SNYDER AND NOW IS 142 00:04:13,566 --> 00:04:16,266 BACKING GRETCHEN WHITMER AND 143 00:04:16,266 --> 00:04:17,933 PREVAILING WAGE IS A BIG ISSUE. 144 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,033 >> I KEEP LOOKING BACK OF RIGHT 145 00:04:20,033 --> 00:04:21,233 TO WORK AND HAPPENED IN LAME 146 00:04:21,233 --> 00:04:23,133 DUCK 2012 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF 147 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:24,466 THE SAME SORT OF FEELINGS AND 148 00:04:24,466 --> 00:04:26,100 YOU KNOW YOU SAW IT ON SOME OF 149 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,500 THE VIDEO BUT I DON'T THINK YOU 150 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:30,966 CAN EXPLAIN ENOUGH HOW TENSE 151 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:32,866 CERTAIN PARTS I SHOULD SAY I WAS 152 00:04:32,866 --> 00:04:34,233 NOT ON THE HOUSE FLOOR BUT 153 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:36,300 WATCHING THE VIDEO LATER I MEAN 154 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:38,300 SHOUTS AND YELLING FROM BOTH THE 155 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:39,833 GALLERY AND THEN ISSUES ABOUT 156 00:04:39,833 --> 00:04:41,233 WHETHER THINGS WERE GOING TO 157 00:04:41,233 --> 00:04:43,166 HAPPEN THROUGH IMMEDIATE EFFECT 158 00:04:43,166 --> 00:04:45,000 IT GOT BAD ON THE HOUSE FLOOR, 159 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,200 YOU WERE THERE, I THINK IT'S 160 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,700 FAIR TO SAY THAT THE TENSION WAS 161 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:48,700 SUPER SUPER HIGH. 162 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,600 >> IT WAS FIERCE OPPOSITION. 163 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,166 >> YEAH. 164 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:53,533 >> THE DEMOCRATS WERE STANDING 165 00:04:53,533 --> 00:04:55,133 ON THE FLOOR YELLING SHAME, 166 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:56,300 SHAME, SHAME. 167 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,533 AND DEMOCRATIC STAFFER GOT FIRED 168 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:02,266 BECAUSE HE TRIED TO REMOVE THE 169 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:05,133 BILL FROM A REPUBLICAN CLERK'S 170 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:09,300 HANDS BEFORE IT GOT TAKEN OUT. 171 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:10,533 >> PREVAILING WAGE ISSUE AND THE 172 00:05:10,533 --> 00:05:11,900 LONG RUNNING ISSUE OF THE 173 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:13,800 PROCEDURAL THING WHERE THE 174 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,766 CONSTITUTION REQUIRES YOU HAVE 175 00:05:14,766 --> 00:05:16,733 TWO THIRDS MAJORITY TO GIVE A 176 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:18,166 BILL IMMEDIATE EFFECT 177 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,833 REPUBLICANS SAY WELL IN THE 178 00:05:19,833 --> 00:05:21,600 PERSON WHO IS IN THE CHAIR CAN 179 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,466 DECIDE WHAT TWO THIRDS MAJORITY 180 00:05:23,466 --> 00:05:24,233 SOUNDS LIKE. 181 00:05:24,233 --> 00:05:26,000 CLEARLY THERE WAS NOT TWO THIRDS 182 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,333 MAJORITY. 183 00:05:26,333 --> 00:05:28,133 >> THIS IS ABOUT THE MEDICAID 184 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:31,000 WORK REQUIREMENT SO THEM ALL 185 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,100 HAPPENING WITHIN MINUTES AND 186 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:33,833 MINUTES OF EACH OTHER IT JUST 187 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:35,566 ROSE THE TENSION AND YOU SAW 188 00:05:35,566 --> 00:05:37,000 DEMOCRATS DOING EXACTLY WHAT I 189 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,400 THINK YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING 190 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,866 OF ELECTION 2018 WHICH IS ONE 191 00:05:40,866 --> 00:05:42,766 BREATH THERE YOU KNOW TAKING 192 00:05:42,766 --> 00:05:44,833 AWAY PREVAILING WAGE AND THE 193 00:05:44,833 --> 00:05:46,266 OTHER ADDING THESE WORK 194 00:05:46,266 --> 00:05:47,666 REQUIREMENTS HOW DOES THAT FEEL 195 00:05:47,666 --> 00:05:49,700 DEAR MICHIGAN WORKER AND IT WAS 196 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:50,433 INTENSE. 197 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:51,966 >> IS THERE ANY LANGUAGE IN THE 198 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:53,766 REPEAL HERE THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE 199 00:05:53,766 --> 00:05:55,333 A COMPANY AND YOU NOW HAVE A 200 00:05:55,333 --> 00:05:57,233 SAVINGS ON SALARIES THAT THAT 201 00:05:57,233 --> 00:05:58,300 WILL RESULT THIS A LOWER COST 202 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:00,700 FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF? 203 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:02,266 >> NO AND DEMOCRATS POINTED THAT 204 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:03,933 OUT REPEATEDLY THERE IS NO GEAR 205 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:06,166 AND KEY THIS WILL. 206 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:07,533 >> THE COMPANY COULD SIMPLY 207 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:09,466 POCKET THE SAVINGS AND SALARIES 208 00:06:09,466 --> 00:06:12,100 AND INCREASE THEIR PROFITS. 209 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:12,600 >> ABSOLUTELY. 210 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,300 >> I WAS SURPRISED THAT UNIONS 211 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:16,266 DID NOT PLAY THE TRUMP CARD MORE 212 00:06:16,266 --> 00:06:17,900 AND SIMPLY TO SAY TO THE 213 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:18,766 REPRESENTATIVES YOU HAVE VOTERS 214 00:06:18,766 --> 00:06:20,300 IN YOUR DISTRICT WHO VOTED FOR 215 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:21,133 DONALD TRUMP. 216 00:06:21,133 --> 00:06:21,466 >> UH-HUH. 217 00:06:21,466 --> 00:06:22,666 >> OKAY WHO IS FOR THE WORKING 218 00:06:22,666 --> 00:06:24,066 GUY AND HERE YOU ARE DOING THIS 219 00:06:24,066 --> 00:06:26,400 TO THE WORKING FOLKS, YES, NO? 220 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,433 >> ABSOLUTELY BUT I THINK THAT 221 00:06:28,433 --> 00:06:31,066 HAS BEEN ALL ALONG THIS TENSION 222 00:06:31,066 --> 00:06:32,666 WITHIN AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU 223 00:06:32,666 --> 00:06:33,933 WANT TO CALL THEM DEMOCRATIC 224 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,533 TRUMP VOTERS OR HOWEVER YOU WANT 225 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,233 TO TALK TO THEM BUT IN MICHIGAN 226 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:39,033 RIGHT NOW AND THAT HAS TO DO 227 00:06:39,033 --> 00:06:41,000 WITH YOU KNOW THE TARIFF RIGHT 228 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,433 AND STEEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT 229 00:06:42,433 --> 00:06:44,500 THAT THERE ARE PARTS OF THE 230 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:46,200 COUNTRY NAFTA THERE ARE PARTS OF 231 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,766 THE COUNTRY THAT FOLKS WHO VOTED 232 00:06:48,766 --> 00:06:50,033 FOR DONALD TRUMP AND NOW DONALD 233 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:51,566 TRUMP IS DOING WELL OKAY WHAT 234 00:06:51,566 --> 00:06:54,366 ABOUT THIS OR THIS OR THIS AND 235 00:06:54,366 --> 00:06:55,800 HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN SOME WORKERS 236 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,566 THAT SOME OF THE POLICIES AND 237 00:06:57,566 --> 00:06:59,000 SAID AMERICA FIRST MIGHT NOT 238 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,433 ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL TO THE 239 00:07:01,433 --> 00:07:01,933 WORKERS. 240 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:03,433 >> ALREADY PREDICTING THIS WILL 241 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:05,466 HELP THEM IN 2018, THAT SAID 242 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:06,700 THEY PREDICTED THAT WITH RIGHT 243 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:08,266 TO WORK EITHER. 244 00:07:08,266 --> 00:07:09,300 >> YES. 245 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:10,300 >> ZERO. 246 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:11,100 >> EXACTLY. 247 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:12,166 >> TALKING ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S 248 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:13,400 LACK OF INVOLVEMENT IN THIS 249 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,733 THING THE EXECUTIVE HERE IS AN 250 00:07:14,733 --> 00:07:16,800 ISSUE HE HAD SAID WE NEED 251 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,166 SKILLED TRADE WORKERS, WE NEED 252 00:07:18,166 --> 00:07:19,566 THE PREVAILING WAGE THIS IS PART 253 00:07:19,566 --> 00:07:21,700 OF MY MARSHAL PLAN, THIS IS PART 254 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:23,466 OF MY WHOLE AGENDA AND IT WAS 255 00:07:23,466 --> 00:07:24,633 CRICKETS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION 256 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:26,066 ON LOBBYING THESE GUYS. 257 00:07:26,066 --> 00:07:27,166 >> I THINK PART OF THAT HAS TO 258 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:30,000 DO WITH BRIAN CALLEY WHO THE 259 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,666 LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WHO IS 260 00:07:30,666 --> 00:07:32,500 RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR WHO 261 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,633 SUPPORTED REPEALING THE 262 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:36,266 PREVAILING WAGE AND I GOVERNOR 263 00:07:36,266 --> 00:07:38,233 RICK SNYDER IS SUPPORTING CALLEY 264 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:39,933 FOR GOVERNOR AND SO I THINK THAT 265 00:07:39,933 --> 00:07:42,066 THERE WAS THAT WAS PART OF THE 266 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:43,666 TENSION TOO. 267 00:07:43,666 --> 00:07:45,433 >> AND ALSO LOOK WHEN HAVE YOU 268 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:47,033 SEEN GOVERNOR SNYDER GET 269 00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:48,200 INVOLVED IN A FIGHT THAT HE 270 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,600 ISN'T DRAWN INTO? 271 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,500 THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL 272 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:52,800 MECHANISM THAT THESE GROUPS USE 273 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,666 TO GO AROUND THE GOVERNOR. 274 00:07:54,666 --> 00:07:55,033 >> YES. 275 00:07:55,033 --> 00:07:56,366 >> HE HAD NO SAY. 276 00:07:56,366 --> 00:07:57,200 >> RIGHT. 277 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 >> HE COULDN'T VETO THE BILL, HE 278 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,266 CERTAINLY COULD HAVE LOBBIED ON 279 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:00,566 IT. 280 00:08:00,566 --> 00:08:02,700 HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIM JUMP INTO 281 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:03,166 A FIGHT. 282 00:08:03,166 --> 00:08:05,200 >> WHAT JONATHAN SAID IS EXACTLY 283 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,333 RIGHT BASICALLY THEY 284 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:08,100 CIRCUMVENTED HIM BECAUSE THEY 285 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:11,900 KNEW THAT HE WAS FOR IT AND HERE 286 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,333 LAWMAKERS AND WHAT IS HE GOING 287 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:14,666 TO DO REPUBLICANS WERE LIKELY 288 00:08:14,666 --> 00:08:16,833 GOING TO PASS IT, HAVE WE SEEN 289 00:08:16,833 --> 00:08:18,266 THIS GOVERNOR LOBBY THINGS OVER 290 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:19,633 AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN 291 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:21,033 ABSOLUTELY NOT AND THIS WAS A 292 00:08:21,033 --> 00:08:23,333 BIG, BIG I THINK SORT OF NICE TO 293 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:25,333 THE HEART OF SOME MODERATES WHO 294 00:08:25,333 --> 00:08:28,666 STILL EVEN BELIEVED IN SNYDER 295 00:08:28,666 --> 00:08:30,366 DURING RIGHT TO WORK WHICH IT'S 296 00:08:30,366 --> 00:08:32,200 NOT ON MY AGENDA I DON'T WANT TO 297 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,933 DEAL WITH IT BUT WHEN IT CAME TO 298 00:08:33,933 --> 00:08:35,166 HIM YOU FIND IT. 299 00:08:35,166 --> 00:08:36,766 >> WE SAW THE SAME THING A 300 00:08:36,766 --> 00:08:39,466 COUPLE YEARS AGO WITH ABORTION 301 00:08:39,466 --> 00:08:41,600 INSURANCE BILL AND RIGHT TO LIFE 302 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,033 DID A PETITION TO GO AROUND THE 303 00:08:43,033 --> 00:08:44,666 GOVERNOR HE WAS FAIRLY QUIET. 304 00:08:44,666 --> 00:08:46,533 >> HE HAD LEVERAGE SITTING IN 305 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:48,933 HIS BACK POCKET THE STATE BUDGET 306 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:50,000 WAS GOING THROUGH AT THE SAME 307 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,900 TIME THAT THIS WAS GOING THROUGH 308 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:52,500 WHAT YOU DO IS YOU CALL IN SOME 309 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,733 GUYS WHO HAVE 100 MILLION IN THE 310 00:08:54,733 --> 00:08:56,100 BUDGET FOR THE SPECIAL PROJECT 311 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:57,733 AND LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY 312 00:08:57,733 --> 00:08:58,966 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PROJECT IS 313 00:08:58,966 --> 00:09:00,633 DEAD UNLESS I GET YOUR VOICE OR 314 00:09:00,633 --> 00:09:02,366 YOUR VOTE ON THIS LEGISLATION. 315 00:09:02,366 --> 00:09:03,466 >> YEAH BUT THE GOVERNOR ALREADY 316 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:05,400 HAD TO NEGOTIATE WHAT HE WANTED 317 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,133 TO GET INTO THE BUDGET AS A LAME 318 00:09:07,133 --> 00:09:08,566 DUCK GOVERNOR THERE IS NO 319 00:09:08,566 --> 00:09:09,633 GUARANTY FOR INSTANCE HIS 320 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:11,933 MARSHAL PLAN FOR TALENT WOULD BE 321 00:09:11,933 --> 00:09:14,300 FULLY FUNDED IN THE BUDGET BUT 322 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:15,933 IT IS AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO ROCK 323 00:09:15,933 --> 00:09:16,700 THE BOAT. 324 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:19,333 >> IT'S DONE NOW WHAT HAPPENED 325 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:20,833 TO THE PETITION DRIVE THE 326 00:09:20,833 --> 00:09:21,900 ORGANIZED LABOR WAS DOING TO PUT 327 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:23,133 THIS BACK IN? 328 00:09:23,133 --> 00:09:24,133 >> THAT'S PART OF THE 329 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:26,433 CALCULATION THAT THE UNIONS 330 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:27,466 DECIDED THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING 331 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:29,133 TO DO THAT, THEY WERE INSTEAD 332 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:30,766 GOING TO TRY TO CONVINCE ENOUGH 333 00:09:30,766 --> 00:09:32,866 REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS NOT TO VOTE 334 00:09:32,866 --> 00:09:33,266 FOR IT. 335 00:09:33,266 --> 00:09:35,366 >> OR THE COURTS TO DO IT. 336 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,466 >> WHOA HAVEN'T THEY LOOKED AT 337 00:09:37,466 --> 00:09:38,533 THE JUDICIARY RECENTLY? 338 00:09:38,533 --> 00:09:39,966 >> IT WAS A FAIL. 339 00:09:39,966 --> 00:09:41,900 >> ALL RIGHT MEDICAID, GET A JOB 340 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:43,533 OR LOSE YOUR HEALTHCARE 341 00:09:43,533 --> 00:09:43,866 BENEFITS. 342 00:09:43,866 --> 00:09:45,166 >> YEAH THAT'S RIGHT GOVERNOR 343 00:09:45,166 --> 00:09:47,866 SNYDER YESTERDAY ESSENTIALLY 344 00:09:47,866 --> 00:09:49,333 ENDORSED MEDICAID WORK 345 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:50,566 REQUIREMENT RULE THAT WOULD 346 00:09:50,566 --> 00:09:52,333 APPLY NOW ONLY TO THE HEALTHY 347 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:54,566 MICHIGAN POPULATION WHICH IS HIS 348 00:09:54,566 --> 00:09:56,800 SORT OF FLAG SHIP MEDICAID 349 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,133 EXPANSION PROGRAM. 350 00:09:58,133 --> 00:09:59,900 HE WAS OPPOSED TO THIS WHEN IT 351 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:01,366 PASSED THE SENATE THE FIRST TIME 352 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:03,133 BUT IT WAS SCALED BACK A LITTLE 353 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:04,600 BIT AT THE HOUSE, PROVED 354 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 YESTERDAY FINALLY IN FINAL FORM 355 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,100 BY THE SENATE AND SENT TO HIM 356 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,700 AND THE GOVERNOR MADE CLEAR HE 357 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:10,400 IS GOING TO SIGN IT. 358 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,166 >> WE HAD SENATOR MIKE SHIRKEY 359 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:14,700 ON THE SHOW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO 360 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:15,866 AND SAID WE ARE WORKING WITH 361 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:17,300 SNYDER HE HAD GONE TO D.C. AND 362 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:19,333 AS JONATHAN SAYS THERE WERE SOME 363 00:10:19,333 --> 00:10:21,500 EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE ADDED, THE 364 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,500 NUMBER OF HOURS DECREASED ENOUGH 365 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,033 SO THAT THEY GOT SNYDER ON THE 366 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:25,400 BOARD. 367 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,166 I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO 368 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:30,166 GONE WHERE NEWS SERVICE WHO 369 00:10:30,166 --> 00:10:31,600 REPORTED LAST NIGHT AND DID NOT 370 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,966 KNOW UNTIL THEY REPORTED IT SO 371 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,733 WITHIN THE BEEN THOUGH IT SAYS 372 00:10:34,733 --> 00:10:36,333 IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 373 00:10:36,333 --> 00:10:38,266 DOESN'T OKAY THIS WAIVER RIGHT 374 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:39,766 THAT THIS IS ALL BECAUSE THE 375 00:10:39,766 --> 00:10:42,500 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS OKAY AND 376 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,033 THREE OTHER STATES ALTHOUGH SOME 377 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:45,766 ARE IN COURT BUT IF THE FEDERAL 378 00:10:45,766 --> 00:10:47,866 GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OKAY THE 379 00:10:47,866 --> 00:10:49,566 WAIVER HEALTHY MICHIGAN GOES 380 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:50,833 AWAY. 381 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:51,766 >> WHOA. 382 00:10:51,766 --> 00:10:54,833 >> THAT'S TRUE THE DETROIT NEWS. 383 00:10:54,833 --> 00:10:55,900 >> DETROIT NEWS. 384 00:10:55,900 --> 00:10:57,433 >> I'M SURE THE FREE PRESS WILL 385 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:58,333 HAVE IT AS WELL. 386 00:10:58,333 --> 00:10:59,900 >> EVERYONE GETS THE CREDIT. 387 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:01,866 >> THAT IS A POISON PILL. 388 00:11:01,866 --> 00:11:02,900 >> TOTAL. 389 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:05,633 >> YEAH AND FOR GOVERNOR SNYDER 390 00:11:05,633 --> 00:11:07,300 WHO PUSHED SO HARD FOR HEALTHY 391 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:08,633 MICHIGAN AGAIN SO MANY 392 00:11:08,633 --> 00:11:12,866 REPUBLICAN OBSTACLES TO THEN GO 393 00:11:12,866 --> 00:11:14,666 OH, WE HOPE THE TRUMP 394 00:11:14,666 --> 00:11:17,133 ADMINISTRATION HAS THEIR STUFF 395 00:11:17,133 --> 00:11:19,100 TOGETHER IS FASCINATING. 396 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:20,833 >> HE CAN'T SAY MY BUDDY IN THE 397 00:11:20,833 --> 00:11:21,966 WHITE HOUSE WILL TAKE CARE OF US 398 00:11:21,966 --> 00:11:22,800 BOYS AND GIRLS. 399 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,966 >> LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT TRUMP 400 00:11:24,966 --> 00:11:28,500 ADMINISTRATION INVITED STATES TO 401 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,700 SET WORK REQUIREMENTS. 402 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:30,833 >> I WOULD NOT TAKE THAT TO THE 403 00:11:30,833 --> 00:11:32,100 BANK. 404 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,300 >> MUCH THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE 405 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:36,366 THEIR STUFF TOGETHER ENOUGH I 406 00:11:36,366 --> 00:11:38,433 FIND THAT FASCINATING THEY WERE 407 00:11:38,433 --> 00:11:39,500 OKAY WITH THAT IN THE BILL. 408 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,333 >> IS THIS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE NOW 409 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:44,433 THAT OURS GO BACK AND PEOPLE ON 410 00:11:44,433 --> 00:11:46,233 WELFARE GET A JOB REELECT ME 411 00:11:46,233 --> 00:11:47,000 PLEASE. 412 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:47,766 >> ABSOLUTELY. 413 00:11:47,766 --> 00:11:48,200 ABSOLUTELY. 414 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,100 IT'S A BIG ISSUE ON BOTH SIDES 415 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:52,766 AND FOR THE DEMOCRATS TOO SAYING 416 00:11:52,766 --> 00:11:54,500 LOOK AT THEY ARE TAKING AWARE 417 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,433 YOUR HEALTHCARE. 418 00:11:56,433 --> 00:11:57,733 YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT THEY 419 00:11:57,733 --> 00:11:59,266 WANT YOU TO HAVE A JOB BUT A LOT 420 00:11:59,266 --> 00:12:00,400 OF THESE PEOPLE ALREADY ARE 421 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,500 WORKING. 422 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,700 AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING SORRY, 423 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:06,333 YOU KNOW, WE ARE TAKING AWAY 424 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:08,633 YOUR HEALTHCARE AND ONE QUOTE 425 00:12:08,633 --> 00:12:09,833 THAT I REMEMBER I THINK IT WAS 426 00:12:09,833 --> 00:12:14,200 FROM REPRESENTATIVE RAVE THIS IS 427 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,200 A HEALTHCARE PROGRAM IT'S NOT A 428 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,000 JOBS PROGRAM. 429 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,033 >> JUST REMEMBER KIDS DOES IT 430 00:12:19,033 --> 00:12:20,666 ACTUALLY TAKE EFFECT UNTIL 2020 431 00:12:20,666 --> 00:12:22,166 SO AGAIN A LOT OF THE 432 00:12:22,166 --> 00:12:23,533 LEGISLATORS THAT JUST VOTED FOR 433 00:12:23,533 --> 00:12:25,566 IT WILL BE GONE BY THE TIME THEY 434 00:12:25,566 --> 00:12:26,866 ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY HAVE TO 435 00:12:26,866 --> 00:12:27,800 KICK PEOPLE OFF. 436 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,833 >> QUICKLY THEY PUNTED ON POT 437 00:12:29,833 --> 00:12:31,100 HOW COME? 438 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:32,200 >> PUNTED ON POT BECAUSE THERE 439 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,500 SIMPLY WERE NOT ENOUGH VOTES IN 440 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:34,933 THE HOUSE AND HAS GONE BACK AND 441 00:12:34,933 --> 00:12:36,766 FORTH IF THERE WERE ENOUGH VOTES 442 00:12:36,766 --> 00:12:38,366 IN THE SENATE THE IDEA IS THE 443 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,733 HOUSE AND SENATE REPUBLICANS 444 00:12:39,733 --> 00:12:41,700 WOULD PASS IT SO THAT IT WASN'T 445 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:46,500 ON THE BALLOT AND DON'T WORRY 446 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:50,866 ABOUT TURN OUT AND IN LAKE DUCK 447 00:12:50,866 --> 00:12:52,000 AMEND IT. 448 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,866 >> LOVE AFFAIR WITH 449 00:12:53,866 --> 00:12:58,333 ARLAN-MEEKHOF IF THEY DON'T DO 450 00:12:58,333 --> 00:13:01,133 IT IT WOULD BE QUOTE A LACK OF 451 00:13:01,133 --> 00:13:03,233 LEADERSHIP. 452 00:13:03,233 --> 00:13:06,600 >> COLLOSAL ANOTHER RUNG OF THIS 453 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,833 RELATIONSHIP THAT IS NONE TO 454 00:13:08,833 --> 00:13:09,166 LOVELY. 455 00:13:09,166 --> 00:13:10,233 >> IF THEY WERE MARRIED THEY 456 00:13:10,233 --> 00:13:11,800 WOULD BE IN COUNSELING. 457 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,600 >> YEAH. 458 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,266 SEPARATE COUCHES AT LEAST. 459 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:17,766 >> UNDER LINE THE EFFECT THAT 460 00:13:17,766 --> 00:13:19,933 TOM LEONARD IS RUNNING FOR 461 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:22,633 ATTORNEY GENERAL MEEKHOF THINKS 462 00:13:22,633 --> 00:13:24,600 HE IS PLAYING POLITICS AND IS 463 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,666 NOT RUNNING FOR ANYTHING ELSE 464 00:13:25,666 --> 00:13:28,000 RIGHT NOW AND DOESN'T HAVE THOSE 465 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,466 CONSIDERATIONS. 466 00:13:28,466 --> 00:13:29,700 >> LET'S EXPLORE THE POT ISSUE 467 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,300 WITH OUR GUEST COME ON IN JOSH. 468 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,100 ♪ 469 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,733 JOSH HOVEY IS A SENIOR VICE 470 00:13:36,733 --> 00:13:37,866 PRESIDENT FOR THE 471 00:13:37,866 --> 00:13:39,300 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN PR FIRM WHICH 472 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,000 IS AN UNDER WRITER OF THIS 473 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,400 BROADCAST. 474 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,666 HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN THE 475 00:13:42,666 --> 00:13:46,533 OFFICE OF LANSING MAYOR VIRG 476 00:13:46,533 --> 00:13:48,100 BERNERO AND A COMMUNITY 477 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:49,933 ORGANIZER BA FROM MSU AND A 478 00:13:49,933 --> 00:13:52,100 MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS 479 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:53,966 SOCIETY OF AMERICA WELCOME BACK 480 00:13:53,966 --> 00:13:54,633 TO THE PROGRAM. 481 00:13:54,633 --> 00:13:55,600 >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 482 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,133 >> LOOK AT THE POT THING KATHY. 483 00:13:58,133 --> 00:14:00,400 >> NOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS 484 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,000 DECIDED NOT TO ACT ON IT IT'S UP 485 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,666 TO THE PROAND ANTIFORCES TO DO 486 00:14:03,666 --> 00:14:05,500 THAT WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP, ARE 487 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,333 YOU OUT THERE RAISING MONEY? 488 00:14:07,333 --> 00:14:08,666 WHAT IS THE CAMPAIGN GOING TO 489 00:14:08,666 --> 00:14:09,366 LOOK LIKE? 490 00:14:09,366 --> 00:14:10,466 >> I MEAN WE ARE BUILDING OUT 491 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:11,900 OUR CAMPAIGN TEAM, WE ARE GOING 492 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,266 TO BE INVESTING HEAVILY IN 493 00:14:14,266 --> 00:14:15,866 RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE WE ARE 494 00:14:15,866 --> 00:14:17,166 SPEAKING TO EXACTLY THE RIGHT 495 00:14:17,166 --> 00:14:18,466 VOTERS AND OBVIOUSLY A HUGE 496 00:14:18,466 --> 00:14:19,833 ELECTION YEAR AND WE HAVE TO 497 00:14:19,833 --> 00:14:21,733 MAKE SURE WE ARE SPENDING OUR 498 00:14:21,733 --> 00:14:22,833 RESOURCES AS EFFICIENTLY AS 499 00:14:22,833 --> 00:14:23,833 POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE 500 00:14:23,833 --> 00:14:25,233 IS GOING TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY 501 00:14:25,233 --> 00:14:26,666 AS WELL AND THERE IS ONLY SO 502 00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:28,400 MANY ADVERTISING DOLLARS TO GO 503 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:28,733 BY. 504 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:30,766 >> I MEAN JUST THE OPPOSITION 505 00:14:30,766 --> 00:14:32,400 WILL BE BUT TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU 506 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,700 SAY THE RIGHT VOTERS WHO ARE THE 507 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,100 RIGHT VOTERS WHO ARE YOU LOOKING 508 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:35,600 TO? 509 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,400 >> I MEAN IT'S INTERESTING 510 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,800 BECAUSE 60% OF MICHIGAN VOTERS 511 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,000 AGREE THAT MARIJUANA PROHIBITION 512 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,133 TO USE A TERM EARLIER HAS BEEN A 513 00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:46,800 COLLOSAL FAILURE SO YOU KNOW WE 514 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,966 ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY GREAT 515 00:14:47,966 --> 00:14:49,533 SUPPORT AMONG DEMOCRATS 516 00:14:49,533 --> 00:14:51,700 OBVIOUSLY BUT REPUBLICAN VOTERS 517 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:54,400 MORE AND MORE UNDERSTAND THAT 518 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,166 PROHIBITION, WASTE TAXPAYER 519 00:14:57,166 --> 00:14:59,100 RESOURCES ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE 520 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,866 CAN BE REDIRECTING THOSE TO 521 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:04,500 FIGHT THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND 522 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,000 CRIME AND STOP CLOGGING UP 523 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,933 COURTS AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM SO 524 00:15:07,933 --> 00:15:09,700 WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF 525 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,433 SUPPORT ACROSS BOTH DEMOCRATS 526 00:15:11,433 --> 00:15:13,600 AND REPUBLICANS BUT WE WANT TO 527 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,533 FIND OUT YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY 528 00:15:16,533 --> 00:15:18,500 WHO IS IN THE MIDDLE AND WHAT IS 529 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,766 IT THAT THEY NEED TO HEAR 530 00:15:19,766 --> 00:15:21,933 BECAUSE THE FACT IS OUR 531 00:15:21,933 --> 00:15:25,466 INITIATIVE IS MIRRORS THE 2016 532 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,766 LEGISLATION AS CLOSELY AS WE 533 00:15:27,766 --> 00:15:28,700 POSSIBLY COULD. 534 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:31,166 THAT LEGISLATURE PASSED WITH 535 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:32,300 BIPARTISAN SUPPORT SO WE HAVE A 536 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,133 GOOD MODEL WE ARE USING, THERE 537 00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:35,633 IS STRICT REGULATIONS IN PLACE 538 00:15:35,633 --> 00:15:38,300 TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW 539 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,133 CITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO 540 00:15:40,133 --> 00:15:44,200 GOVERN HOW BUSINESSES OPERATE, 541 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,000 THAT WE HAVE A LICENSING SYSTEM 542 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,933 THAT MODELS THE MEDICAL 543 00:15:47,933 --> 00:15:50,100 MARIJUANA LAW THAT WAS PASSED SO 544 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,333 WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO 545 00:15:52,333 --> 00:15:53,833 PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR AND WHAT ARE 546 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:54,833 THEY CONCERNED ABOUT AND MAKE 547 00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:57,000 SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE 548 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,366 CONCERNS. 549 00:15:57,366 --> 00:15:59,600 >> ARE YOU CONCEDING THE SENIOR 550 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,766 CITIZEN VOTE? 551 00:16:00,766 --> 00:16:02,066 >> NO. 552 00:16:02,066 --> 00:16:03,200 >> WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER 553 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,533 STATES IS USAGE OF MARIJUANA IS 554 00:16:05,533 --> 00:16:07,133 FLAT IN STATES THAT LEGALIZED 555 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:09,033 EXCEPT FOR AMONG THE BABY 556 00:16:09,033 --> 00:16:10,333 BOOMERS. 557 00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:11,933 THERE IS ACTUALLY INCREASE IN 558 00:16:11,933 --> 00:16:13,633 THEIR USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA 559 00:16:13,633 --> 00:16:15,966 AND SO LIKE I THINK YOU'RE GOING 560 00:16:15,966 --> 00:16:19,633 TO SEE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND 561 00:16:19,633 --> 00:16:21,300 THAT THIS IS NOT A SCARY THING, 562 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:25,466 THIS IS NOT THE REEFER MADNESS 563 00:16:25,466 --> 00:16:26,466 HYSTERIA. 564 00:16:26,466 --> 00:16:27,400 >> YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE 565 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,466 A SENIOR CITIZEN VOTING PROBLEM? 566 00:16:30,466 --> 00:16:32,100 >> NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE THINK. 567 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:36,266 I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS A 568 00:16:36,266 --> 00:16:38,933 ELECTORATE THAT PROHIBITION 569 00:16:38,933 --> 00:16:40,133 FAILED LIKE ALCOHOL AND WE NEED 570 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,566 TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I 571 00:16:41,566 --> 00:16:43,000 THINK WHEN THEY GET THE FACTS 572 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,300 ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO 573 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:45,433 AND STRICT REGULATIONS WE HAVE 574 00:16:45,433 --> 00:16:49,266 IN PLACE THEY WILL VOTE YES. 575 00:16:49,266 --> 00:16:50,933 >> YOUR PROPOSAL DOES SORT OF 576 00:16:50,933 --> 00:16:52,766 MIRROR THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA 577 00:16:52,766 --> 00:16:55,033 LAWS PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO BUT 578 00:16:55,033 --> 00:16:56,000 DISTINCTIONS FOR INSTANCE THIS 579 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,200 WOULD ALLOW UP TO 12 PLANTS 580 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,100 GROWN IN AN INDIVIDUAL'S HOME, 581 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:02,433 12 PLANTS, I'VE NEVER GROWN 582 00:17:02,433 --> 00:17:03,866 MARIJUANA BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 583 00:17:03,866 --> 00:17:04,800 LOT OF MARIJUANA. 584 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,900 I MEAN WHO WOULD NEED TO GROW 12 585 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:08,366 PLANTS FOR PERSONAL USE? 586 00:17:08,366 --> 00:17:09,733 >> THAT IS THE SAME PLANT LIMIT 587 00:17:09,733 --> 00:17:11,300 WE HAVE UNDER MICHIGAN MEDICAL 588 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:13,733 MARIJUANA LAW BUT OURS IS PER 589 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,266 HOUSEHOLD AND EVERY CARD HOLDER 590 00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:17,000 HAS THE RIGHT UNDER MEDICAL 591 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,066 MARIJUANA TO GROW SO OURS LIMITS 592 00:17:19,066 --> 00:17:21,033 AT PER HOUSEHOLD NO MATTER HOW 593 00:17:21,033 --> 00:17:22,233 MANY ARE IN THE HOUSE UNDER 594 00:17:22,233 --> 00:17:24,100 MEDICAL MARIJUANA THERE IS NO 595 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,933 HOUSEHOLD CAP SO YOU KNOW WE 596 00:17:26,933 --> 00:17:28,300 DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO 597 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:31,700 HAVE VARYING POSSESSION LIMITS 598 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:33,700 BASED ON MED CALL OR ADULT USE 599 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:34,566 MARIJUANA WE DON'T WANT TO 600 00:17:34,566 --> 00:17:36,433 CREATE THAT KIND OF CONFUSION 601 00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:37,933 AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE 602 00:17:37,933 --> 00:17:38,900 PEOPLE OF MICHIGAN SO WE 603 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:40,900 MIRRORED THE POSSESSION LIMITS, 604 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:42,500 THE HOME GROW LIMITS VERY 605 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:43,833 CLOSELY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE 606 00:17:43,833 --> 00:17:46,066 THAT WE ARE BEING AS CONSISTENT 607 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:47,833 AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. 608 00:17:47,833 --> 00:17:48,733 >> PROBLEMS WITH 609 00:17:48,733 --> 00:17:49,866 AFRICAN/AMERICAN CHURCHES ON 610 00:17:49,866 --> 00:17:50,566 THIS ISSUE? 611 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:52,933 >> THERE SOME CONCERN BUT AT THE 612 00:17:52,933 --> 00:17:54,466 SAME TIME WHO IS IT THAT HAS 613 00:17:54,466 --> 00:17:55,800 BEEN TARGETED BY THE WAR ON 614 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,600 DRUGS AND MARIJUANA PROHIBITION, 615 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,366 OVERWHELMINGLY IT'S MINORITIES 616 00:18:00,366 --> 00:18:02,133 WHO ARE PUT IN JAIL AND PUT 617 00:18:02,133 --> 00:18:03,666 THROUGH OUR LEGAL SYSTEM NOT 618 00:18:03,666 --> 00:18:05,400 WHITE FOLKS. 619 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,633 >> WILL YOU BE WORKING WITH ANY 620 00:18:06,633 --> 00:18:07,700 OF THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE 621 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:09,233 RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE WHO 622 00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:10,700 ARE DEMOCRATS HAVE YOU GOTTEN 623 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:12,333 LET'S SAY A DEBBIE STAB NOW WHO 624 00:18:12,333 --> 00:18:14,466 WILL BE ON THE BALLOT, ADA THAT 625 00:18:14,466 --> 00:18:16,933 NESSLE LIKELY ON THE BALLOT DO 626 00:18:16,933 --> 00:18:18,566 YOU HAVE FOLKS LINED UP WHO WILL 627 00:18:18,566 --> 00:18:20,666 HELP A NAME RIGHT A FACE THAT 628 00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:22,166 VOTERS KNOW TO HELP YOU PUSH 629 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:22,800 THIS? 630 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,033 >> WE ARE WORKING ON BUILDING 631 00:18:24,033 --> 00:18:25,600 OUT A BROAD COALITION OF SUPPORT 632 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,433 AND WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT ALL 633 00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:29,066 THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR 634 00:18:29,066 --> 00:18:30,100 GOVERNOR HAVE COME OUT AND SAID 635 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:31,200 THAT MARIJUANA SHOULD BE 636 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,133 LEGALIZED. 637 00:18:32,133 --> 00:18:33,733 WE ARE WORKING NOW TO MAKE SURE 638 00:18:33,733 --> 00:18:35,866 WE REACH OUT TO ALL THE FOLK 639 00:18:35,866 --> 00:18:37,333 WHOSE ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND 640 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:38,466 MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT 641 00:18:38,466 --> 00:18:40,666 INFORMATION AND THEY CAN MAKE 642 00:18:40,666 --> 00:18:42,266 DECISIONS TO HOPEFULLY ENDORSED. 643 00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:44,466 >> HAVE YOU DONE FOCUS GROUPS UP 644 00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:45,866 TO THIS POINT? 645 00:18:45,866 --> 00:18:47,300 >> WE HAVE NOT DONE A LOT OF 646 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:48,266 RESEARCH UP TO THIS POINT WE 647 00:18:48,266 --> 00:18:49,733 HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE 648 00:18:49,733 --> 00:18:51,100 APPROVAL PROCESS AND GETTING ON 649 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:52,966 THE BALLOT THE NEXT STEP IN THE 650 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:54,033 CAMPAIGN IS TO DO THE RESEARCH 651 00:18:54,033 --> 00:18:56,133 AND FOCUS GROUPS AND ALL THOSE 652 00:18:56,133 --> 00:18:56,433 THINGS. 653 00:18:56,433 --> 00:18:57,433 >> ARE YOU WILLING TO SAY IF YOU 654 00:18:57,433 --> 00:18:58,900 DON'T GET MILLENNIALS YOU WILL 655 00:18:58,900 --> 00:18:59,533 LOSE? 656 00:18:59,533 --> 00:19:00,833 >> NO I DON'T THINK SO. 657 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:02,133 >> YOU'RE NOT CRITICAL TO THE 658 00:19:02,133 --> 00:19:02,833 OUTCOME HERE? 659 00:19:02,833 --> 00:19:03,933 >> EVERYONE IS CRITICAL TO THE 660 00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:05,200 OUTCOME I'M NOT WILLING TO SAY 661 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,633 IF WE DON'T GET MILLENNIALS WE 662 00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:09,633 LOSE I'M WILLING TO SAY THEY ARE 663 00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:12,833 OBVIOUSLY A KEY ELECTORATE AND 664 00:19:12,833 --> 00:19:14,766 DO POLL VERY WELL AMONG FOLKS 665 00:19:14,766 --> 00:19:17,100 WHO WANT IT LEGALIZED SO WE WILL 666 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,366 BE ABSOLUTELY ENGAGING THEM BUT 667 00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:20,800 WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE 668 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,133 ENGAGING. 669 00:19:21,133 --> 00:19:23,066 >> HOME SMOKING POT ON ELECTION 670 00:19:23,066 --> 00:19:24,433 DAY YOU COULD LOSE. 671 00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:25,866 >> ANYONE WHO IS HOME SMOKING 672 00:19:25,866 --> 00:19:27,733 POT ON ELECTION DAY IS NOT DOING 673 00:19:27,733 --> 00:19:28,533 US A FAVOR. 674 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:30,166 WE NEED EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND 675 00:19:30,166 --> 00:19:30,666 VOTE. 676 00:19:30,666 --> 00:19:32,000 >> JOSH, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY 677 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,166 MICHIGAN COULD BE THE ONLY STATE 678 00:19:33,166 --> 00:19:35,366 IN THE COUNTRY WITH A MARIJUANA 679 00:19:35,366 --> 00:19:36,833 LEGALIZATION ON THE BALLOT THIS 680 00:19:36,833 --> 00:19:38,633 FALL. 681 00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:40,500 HOW EXPENSIVE DO YOU THINK THIS 682 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:41,800 RACE IS GOING TO GET AND HOW 683 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,166 MUCH ARE YOU TARGETING THAT YOU 684 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:45,566 NEED TO RAISE FOR A SUCCESSFUL 685 00:19:45,566 --> 00:19:46,066 CAMPAIGN? 686 00:19:46,066 --> 00:19:47,066 >> IT'S HARD TO SAY AT THIS 687 00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:48,166 POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT 688 00:19:48,166 --> 00:19:51,133 ELSE IS GOING TO BE ON THE 689 00:19:51,133 --> 00:19:51,466 BALLOT. 690 00:19:51,466 --> 00:19:52,633 THERE COULD BE A VOTE ON 691 00:19:52,633 --> 00:19:54,033 EVERYTHING EFFORT, THERE COULD 692 00:19:54,033 --> 00:19:57,133 BE -- WE I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY 693 00:19:57,133 --> 00:19:58,566 TO SAY EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE NEED 694 00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:01,066 FROM A COUPLE MILLION TO SEVERAL 695 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:01,800 MILLION. 696 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,600 WE ARE NOT SURE EXACTLY, BUT OUR 697 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,733 GOAL AT LEAST IS TO MAKE SURE WE 698 00:20:05,733 --> 00:20:08,833 HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DOUBLE OUR 699 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,166 OPPOSITION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE 700 00:20:10,166 --> 00:20:13,400 CAN OUT SPEND AND GET THE FACTS 701 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,800 OUT AND WE KNOW WITH THE 702 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,966 LEGISLATIVE DEBATE THERE IS A 703 00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:17,766 LOT OF MISS INFORMATION OUT 704 00:20:17,766 --> 00:20:19,200 THERE A LOT OF FOLKS SAYING 705 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,366 WHATEVER THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD 706 00:20:20,366 --> 00:20:22,466 TO GET VOTES TO PASS AND AMEND 707 00:20:22,466 --> 00:20:24,066 OUR INITIATIVE AND WE NEED TO 708 00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:25,633 MAKE SURE THAT THE FACTS ARE OUT 709 00:20:25,633 --> 00:20:26,866 THERE BECAUSE OUR RESEARCH SHOWS 710 00:20:26,866 --> 00:20:28,066 THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE MORE 711 00:20:28,066 --> 00:20:29,066 INFORMATION ABOUT THE INITIATIVE 712 00:20:29,066 --> 00:20:30,266 THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO VOTE 713 00:20:30,266 --> 00:20:30,800 YES. 714 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,066 >> OPPOSITION SAYS THE EXACT 715 00:20:32,066 --> 00:20:33,433 OPPOSITE THEY SAY THE POLLS THAT 716 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:36,200 YOU SEE IN 60% SUPPORT ARE JUST 717 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,300 GENERAL MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION 718 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:39,500 BUT WHEN YOU TELL THEM UNIT YOU 719 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,600 COULD BUY GUMMY BEARS AN AT POT 720 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,900 SHOP THAT SUPPORT LIMITS. 721 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,833 >> THAT'S THEY ARE USING 722 00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:47,933 FABRICATIONS ON THEIR OWN POLLS 723 00:20:47,933 --> 00:20:51,566 BECAUSE THE EDIBLES THAT WOULD 724 00:20:51,566 --> 00:20:53,866 BE ALLOWED WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO 725 00:20:53,866 --> 00:20:55,266 TARGETED TO KIDS FOR ONE. 726 00:20:55,266 --> 00:20:56,400 THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND 727 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,700 OPPOSITION THAT THEY PUT OUT 728 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,533 ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT OPPOSITION 729 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:02,333 TO OUR INITIATIVE DECLINES AS 730 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:03,866 PEOPLE GET MORE INFORMATION, 731 00:21:03,866 --> 00:21:05,366 THAT'S THE RESEARCH THAT THEY 732 00:21:05,366 --> 00:21:07,066 PUSHED OUT ON THEIR OWN. 733 00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:08,733 >> TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 734 00:21:08,733 --> 00:21:10,833 MONETARY STRUCTURE BECAUSE THAT 735 00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:12,900 IS THE TAX STRUCTURE THAT WOULD 736 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:14,200 LEAD TO MONEY WHAT ARE YOU 737 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,533 PREDICTING LET'S SAY THAT IT 738 00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:16,500 PASSES IN THE FIRST YEAR THAT 739 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:17,933 THIS STATE WOULD COME AWAY WITH 740 00:21:17,933 --> 00:21:20,266 IT BECAUSE OF TAXES AND THEN. 741 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,533 >> SO WE ARE GOING TO BE 742 00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:22,900 CONDUCTING ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY 743 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:24,200 AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT 744 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,433 INFORMATION TO SHARE HOPEFULLY 745 00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:27,300 IN ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS. 746 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:28,833 BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT 747 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:31,200 MICHIGAN IS THE SECOND LARGEST 748 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,600 MEDICAL MARIJUANA MARKET IN THE 749 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,366 COUNTRY GIVEN WHAT COLORADO, 750 00:21:34,366 --> 00:21:36,266 WASHINGTON, OTHER STATES WHO 751 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:37,833 HAVE GONE BEFORE US RAISED 752 00:21:37,833 --> 00:21:39,066 THROUGH TAX REVENUE AND 753 00:21:39,066 --> 00:21:40,333 COMPARING THOSE STATES TO OUR 754 00:21:40,333 --> 00:21:41,633 POPULATION SIZE. 755 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:42,766 WE THINK WHEN THE MARKET IS UP 756 00:21:42,766 --> 00:21:45,033 AND RUNNING WE CAN RAISE ROUGHLY 757 00:21:45,033 --> 00:21:46,866 200 MILLION EVERY SINGLE YEAR 758 00:21:46,866 --> 00:21:48,733 FOR OUR ROADS, OUR SCHOOLS AND 759 00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:49,666 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 760 00:21:49,666 --> 00:21:51,166 AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT 761 00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:53,433 WE CAN FIX ALL OF OUR ROAD 762 00:21:53,433 --> 00:21:55,700 PROBLEMS WITH THIS INITIATIVE 763 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:57,733 AND SCHOOL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT 764 00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,966 FUNDING BUT 200 MILLION IS A LOT 765 00:21:59,966 --> 00:22:01,933 OF NEW REVENUE THE STATE IS NOT 766 00:22:01,933 --> 00:22:02,733 GENERATING NOW. 767 00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:04,333 >> DO YOU BELIEVE THERE ARE 768 00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:07,100 ENTREPRENEURS TO CONTROL THE 769 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:08,566 MONOPOLY RATHER THAN A FREE 770 00:22:08,566 --> 00:22:09,100 MARKET? 771 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:10,033 >> THAT WAS THE OPPOSITION YOU 772 00:22:10,033 --> 00:22:12,866 SAW TO OUR INITIATIVE OR THE 773 00:22:12,866 --> 00:22:15,600 ADOPT AND AMEND FOLKS AND THE 774 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:15,966 LEGISLATURE. 775 00:22:15,966 --> 00:22:18,900 I THINK THERE WAS A VERY STRONG 776 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:20,600 GROUP OF REPUBLICAN DONORS WHO 777 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,800 WANT TO GET INTO THE INDUSTRY 778 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,333 BUT THEY WANT TO DO SO UNDER 779 00:22:24,333 --> 00:22:28,800 MUCH MORE MONOPOLY SYSTEM. 780 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,033 >> I ASKED SENATOR ME, -- 781 00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:36,366 MEEKHOF AND HE SAID NO. 782 00:22:36,366 --> 00:22:37,533 >> NOBODY REACHED OUT TO US AND 783 00:22:37,533 --> 00:22:39,133 SAID THESE ARE THE AMENDMENTS WE 784 00:22:39,133 --> 00:22:40,666 WANT TO SEE TO YOUR INITIATIVE. 785 00:22:40,666 --> 00:22:42,100 PEOPLE HAD KIND OF COME THROUGH 786 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:45,533 AND THERE IS SOME BACKDOOR 787 00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:47,233 CONVERSATIONS BUT THERE WAS NO 788 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:48,566 INITIAL DISCUSSIONS THESE ARE 789 00:22:48,566 --> 00:22:50,733 THE AMENDMENTS WE WANT TO SAY 790 00:22:50,733 --> 00:22:52,133 PASS AND NO GUARANTEES PUT IN 791 00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:53,233 PLACE THOSE WERE THE AMENDMENTS 792 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:55,500 THAT WOULD BE MADE AND YOU KNOW 793 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,266 AMONG THE DEMOCRATS AND THE 794 00:22:57,266 --> 00:22:59,533 LEGISLATURE THERE IS AND REALLY 795 00:22:59,533 --> 00:23:01,033 AMONG OUR STAKEHOLDERS THERE IS 796 00:23:01,033 --> 00:23:02,800 NOT A LOT OF TRUST IN LANSING TO 797 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,766 FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY 798 00:23:03,766 --> 00:23:05,033 COMMIT TO DOING SO WE ARE HAPPY 799 00:23:05,033 --> 00:23:06,500 TO SEE OUR INITIATIVE ON THE 800 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:06,966 BALLOT. 801 00:23:06,966 --> 00:23:09,166 WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY WELL 802 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,300 WORDED AND THAT WHEN THE VOTERS 803 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:11,633 HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT IT 804 00:23:11,633 --> 00:23:12,366 WILL PASS IN NOVEMBER. 805 00:23:12,366 --> 00:23:13,666 >> ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES 806 00:23:13,666 --> 00:23:15,066 BETWEEN THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA 807 00:23:15,066 --> 00:23:20,333 AND THE PROPOSAL IS WHO GETS TO 808 00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:21,266 LICENSE THE BUSINESSES. 809 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,833 IT'S A POLITICALLY APPOINTED 810 00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:25,400 BOARD FOR MEDICAL MARUEEN IT'S 811 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,933 LARA UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL WAS 812 00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:30,466 THAT ONE OF THE MAIN STICKING 813 00:23:30,466 --> 00:23:32,200 POINTS WITH THE FOLKS IN THE 814 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,433 SENATE WHO WANTED TO GET THIS 815 00:23:33,433 --> 00:23:33,866 THROUGH? 816 00:23:33,866 --> 00:23:35,300 >> WE HEARD THAT WAS ONE OF THE 817 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,133 ISSUES THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE IS 818 00:23:37,133 --> 00:23:38,666 POLITICALLY APPOINTED BOARD AND 819 00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:40,933 WE DON'T SEE ANOTHER NEED FOR 820 00:23:40,933 --> 00:23:42,100 ANOTHER LAYER OF GOVERNMENT TO 821 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,700 COME IN AND REGULAR MARIJUANA 822 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:47,900 BUSINESSES THE STATE REGULATES 823 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:50,066 IN EVERY INDUSTRY AND GOOD AT 824 00:23:50,066 --> 00:23:51,433 WHAT THEY DO AND KNOW HOW TO DO 825 00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:53,833 IT SO TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF 826 00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:55,600 POLITICALLY APPOINTED INFLUENCE 827 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,900 ON TO MARIJUANA BUSINESSES I 828 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:59,933 THINK IS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH 829 00:23:59,933 --> 00:24:01,133 MARIJUANA OR WITH MEDICAL 830 00:24:01,133 --> 00:24:02,500 MARIJUANA IT COMPLICATES THE 831 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:05,100 PROCESS, THERE IS A LOT OF A 832 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:06,666 SITUATION OF CONFLICTS OF 833 00:24:06,666 --> 00:24:07,900 INTEREST AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS 834 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:09,666 AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT IS 835 00:24:09,666 --> 00:24:10,733 HAPPENING WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA 836 00:24:10,733 --> 00:24:11,300 RIGHT NOW. 837 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:12,766 >> HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO OTHER 838 00:24:12,766 --> 00:24:15,066 FOLKS, ORGANIZATIONS, CAMPAIGNS 839 00:24:15,066 --> 00:24:16,533 WHO WORKED TO LEGALIZE IT IN 840 00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:18,233 OTHER STATES TO GET STRATEGIC 841 00:24:18,233 --> 00:24:19,433 ADVICE AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING 842 00:24:19,433 --> 00:24:20,200 YOU? 843 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,000 >> WE ARE AND THE MARIJUANA 844 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,666 POLICY PROJECT IS ONE OF OUR KEY 845 00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:25,166 DONORS AND COALITION MEMBERS FOR 846 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:26,433 THE CAMPAIGN AND THEY HAVE 847 00:24:26,433 --> 00:24:29,200 WORKED IN NEARLY EVERY STATE 848 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,600 THAT IS LEGALIZED AND HAVE 849 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,666 HELPED MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 850 00:24:31,666 --> 00:24:32,900 >> THERE IS A PLAY BOOK. 851 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:33,866 >> THEY HAVE A PLAY BOOK AND 852 00:24:33,866 --> 00:24:35,500 THEY WORKED AGAINST A LOT OF THE 853 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:37,066 OPPOSITION GROUPS THAT WE ARE 854 00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:38,300 EXPECTING TO COME OUT AGAINST US 855 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,500 SO WE KNOW PRETTY WELL WHAT'S 856 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,100 GOING TO BE SAID AGAINST US. 857 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,666 >> WHAT WILL BE THE HARSHIST 858 00:24:44,666 --> 00:24:45,700 THING THEY WILL SAY? 859 00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:46,800 >> CONCERN ABOUT DRIVING UNDER 860 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,966 THE INFLUENCE, A LOT OF CONCERN 861 00:24:47,966 --> 00:24:50,300 ABOUT WHAT CAN BUSINESSES BAN 862 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:51,500 THEIR EMPLOYEES FROM USING BOTH 863 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,100 OF WHICH WE INCLUDE IN OUR 864 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:53,533 INITIATIVE. 865 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,733 WE HAVE THE SAME STRICT LAWS OF 866 00:24:55,733 --> 00:24:57,000 DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE NOW 867 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,233 THAT WOULD BE UNDER OUR 868 00:24:58,233 --> 00:24:59,300 INITIATIVE IF IT PASSES. 869 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:00,700 >> POLICE SAY THEY HAVE NO WAY 870 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,600 TO TEST IT OUT ON THE ROADS. 871 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,966 >> THE STATE OF MICHIGAN IS 872 00:25:03,966 --> 00:25:06,266 DOING A PILOT TEST RIGHT NOW ON 873 00:25:06,266 --> 00:25:08,133 THE ROADS FOR A MOUTH SWAB THAT 874 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:10,233 WILL COME TO FRUITION AND HAVE 875 00:25:10,233 --> 00:25:12,000 GOOD RESULTS BECAUSE WE DO NEED 876 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,600 TO HAVE BETTER TESTING THAT IS A 877 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,900 WHOLE OTHER REASON WHY THE 878 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,200 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO 879 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,766 REMOVE MARIJUANA FROM THE 880 00:25:18,766 --> 00:25:20,466 FEDERAL ONE AND IT'S SAFER AND 881 00:25:20,466 --> 00:25:23,333 LESS ADDICTIVE THAN ALCOHOL OR 882 00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:23,766 TOBACCO. 883 00:25:23,766 --> 00:25:25,933 >> YOU GET MORE INSTATE MONEY 884 00:25:25,933 --> 00:25:27,633 THAN OUT OF STATE MONEY TO PITCH 885 00:25:27,633 --> 00:25:29,966 THIS OR YOU ARE HOPING. 886 00:25:29,966 --> 00:25:31,433 >> WE DON'T CARE WHERE THE MONEY 887 00:25:31,433 --> 00:25:33,766 COMES FROM WE NEED RESOURCES TO 888 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,466 DO OUR INITIATIVE. 889 00:25:35,466 --> 00:25:37,333 >> CARPET BEGGARS COMING IN TO 890 00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:38,500 CONTROL MICHIGAN POLITICS. 891 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:39,666 >> NO. 892 00:25:39,666 --> 00:25:41,700 THE FACT IS THERE IS A LOT OF 893 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,200 INTEREST IN LEGALIZING MARIJUANA 894 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,466 WHETHER IT COMES FROM NATIONAL 895 00:25:44,466 --> 00:25:47,566 OR IN STATE WE ARE HAPPY. 896 00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:49,766 >> MR. HOVEY GOOD TO SEE YOU 897 00:25:49,766 --> 00:25:51,633 THANKS FOR BEING ON THE PANEL 898 00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:52,966 AND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK RIGHT HERE 899 00:25:52,966 --> 00:25:54,433 ON "OFF THE RECORD." 900 00:25:54,433 --> 00:25:55,300 PRODUCTION OF "OFF THE RECORD" 901 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:57,733 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 902 00:25:57,733 --> 00:25:59,000 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN 903 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,766 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BIPARTISAN 904 00:26:01,766 --> 00:26:03,300 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION FIRM 905 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,133 SERVING STATEWIDE NATIONAL AND 906 00:26:05,133 --> 00:26:06,433 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 907 00:26:06,433 --> 00:26:08,266 OFFICES IN LANSING DETROIT AND 908 00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:09,533 GRAND RAPIDS, 909 00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:11,500 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 910 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:12,666 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 911 00:26:12,666 --> 00:26:13,900 CONDITIONING COMPANY SERVING THE 912 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,766 GREATER LANSING AREA SINCE 1941 913 00:26:16,766 --> 00:26:18,333 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 914 00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,100 FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 915 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:21,733 MICHIGAN SEASONS HAGER FOX 916 00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:23,366 HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONINGER 917 00:26:23,366 --> 00:26:25,300 FOX AND BRYANT WHATEVER IT TAKES 918 00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:27,433 HAGER FOX.COM AND BY MSU COLLEGE 919 00:26:27,433 --> 00:26:29,033 OF AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL 920 00:26:29,033 --> 00:26:29,933 RESOURCES. 921 00:26:29,933 --> 00:26:31,100 MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WANTS 922 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,000 TO BE A TRUSTED PARTNER IN 923 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,033 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FOOD AND 924 00:26:34,033 --> 00:26:36,033 WHERE IT COMES FROM INCLUDING 925 00:26:36,033 --> 00:26:37,533 ITS IMPACT ON OUR HEALTH AND ON 926 00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:39,333 OUR PLANET, LEARN MORE AT 927 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:42,766 FOOD.MSU.EDU. 928 00:26:42,766 --> 00:26:44,866 FOR MORE "OFF THE RECORD" VISIT 929 00:26:44,866 --> 00:26:47,966 WKAR.ORG MICHIGAN PUBLIC 930 00:26:47,966 --> 00:26:49,133 TELEVISION STATIONS HAVE 931 00:26:49,133 --> 00:26:50,166 CONTRIBUTED TO PRODUCTION COSTS 932 00:26:50,166 --> 00:26:51,933 OF "OFF THE RECORD" WITH TIM 933 00:26:51,933 --> 00:26:52,600 SKUBICK. 934 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,600 ♪