1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,073 STARTS RIGHT NOW. 2 00:00:09,108 --> 00:00:10,876 >> THIS IS SPECIAL PRIMARY 3 00:00:10,910 --> 00:00:11,977 EDITION OF "OFF THE RECORD" WITH 4 00:00:12,011 --> 00:00:13,077 THE THREE REPUBLICANS RUNNING 5 00:00:13,112 --> 00:00:15,480 FOR THE U.S. SENATE NOMINATION. 6 00:00:15,515 --> 00:00:17,148 PETE HOEKSTRA IS HERE. 7 00:00:17,182 --> 00:00:19,551 ALONG WITH RANDALL HEKMAN AND 8 00:00:19,585 --> 00:00:20,318 CLASHING DURANT. 9 00:00:20,352 --> 00:00:22,086 NO RULES EXCHANGE COMING UPRIGHT 10 00:00:22,121 --> 00:00:26,825 NOW ON, "OFF THE RECORD." 11 00:00:38,370 --> 00:00:43,942 ¶ 12 00:01:34,125 --> 00:01:37,227 WELCOME DO THIS SPECIAL EDITION. 13 00:01:37,261 --> 00:01:38,896 NO RULES DEBATE. 14 00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:42,466 LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU MR. DURANT. 15 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:45,402 LET'S SAY YOU ARE U.S. SENATE 16 00:01:45,436 --> 00:01:48,138 AND THERE ARE DOLLARS ALLOCATE 17 00:01:48,172 --> 00:01:49,172 AGO BRIDGE? 18 00:01:49,207 --> 00:01:51,809 >>LY VOTE NO BECAUSE THE 19 00:01:51,843 --> 00:01:55,479 TAXPAYERS ARE OVERBURDENED BY 20 00:01:55,513 --> 00:01:56,146 WASHINGTON'S POLICIES OF 21 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:57,014 SPENDING AND DEBT. 22 00:01:57,048 --> 00:01:59,382 IN POINT OF FACT IF A BRIDGE IS 23 00:01:59,417 --> 00:02:02,318 WORTH IT, IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE 24 00:02:02,352 --> 00:02:03,552 ALL THE TRAFFIC AND TRADE THAT 25 00:02:03,587 --> 00:02:05,655 SHOULD COME TO MICHIGAN, PRIVATE 26 00:02:05,689 --> 00:02:07,090 INVESTORS SHOULD FUND THAT 27 00:02:07,124 --> 00:02:07,690 BRIDGE. 28 00:02:07,725 --> 00:02:09,692 JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE 29 00:02:09,727 --> 00:02:13,129 KEYSTONE PIPELINE PINE THEY PUT 30 00:02:13,163 --> 00:02:14,731 UP $7 BILLION OF PRIVATE MONEY. 31 00:02:14,765 --> 00:02:16,565 THERE IS PRIVATE MONEY FOR THE 32 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,134 BRIDGE AND IT WILL MAKE MONEY 33 00:02:18,168 --> 00:02:20,637 BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED 34 00:02:20,671 --> 00:02:20,870 TRAFFIC. 35 00:02:20,904 --> 00:02:22,471 >> Tim: SO WHEN THE GOVERNOR 36 00:02:22,506 --> 00:02:24,306 SAYS IT WILL CREATE JOBS YOU 37 00:02:24,341 --> 00:02:26,075 SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE IT? 38 00:02:26,110 --> 00:02:27,576 >> I BELIEVE JOBS WILL BE 39 00:02:27,611 --> 00:02:29,145 CREATED BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED 40 00:02:29,179 --> 00:02:29,912 TRADE THAT IS POSSIBLE. 41 00:02:29,947 --> 00:02:31,413 >> Tim: THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED 42 00:02:31,448 --> 00:02:31,580 YOU. 43 00:02:31,615 --> 00:02:35,284 >> I BELIEVE THAT JOBS WILL BE 44 00:02:35,318 --> 00:02:36,719 CREATED WE GET INCREASED TRADE 45 00:02:36,754 --> 00:02:39,756 AND PRIVATE BUSINESS SHOULD BE 46 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:40,456 INVESTING IN THAT. 47 00:02:40,490 --> 00:02:41,824 >> I WOULD VOTE THE SAME WAY. 48 00:02:41,859 --> 00:02:43,660 I WOULD VOTE NO. 49 00:02:43,694 --> 00:02:45,294 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BEYOND 50 00:02:45,328 --> 00:02:45,494 BROKE. 51 00:02:45,529 --> 00:02:47,096 THERE IS A BIG ISSUE BEFORE OUR 52 00:02:47,131 --> 00:02:47,864 COUNTRY TODAY. 53 00:02:47,898 --> 00:02:50,299 THE HOUSE THAT IS ON FIREFIGHTER 54 00:02:50,333 --> 00:02:51,734 IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING 55 00:02:51,769 --> 00:02:53,636 FAR MORE THAN THEY TAKE IN. 56 00:02:53,671 --> 00:02:55,471 >> Tim: SO THE GOVERNOR IS WRONG 57 00:02:55,505 --> 00:02:56,172 TO PROPOSE THIS? 58 00:02:56,206 --> 00:02:59,676 >> SHE WRONG TO SAY THAT FEDERAL 59 00:02:59,710 --> 00:03:01,209 GOVERNMENT SHUCK PAYING FOR IT. 60 00:03:01,243 --> 00:03:02,577 PRIVATE MONEY IS AVAILABLE. 61 00:03:02,611 --> 00:03:04,146 >> MR. HOEKSTRA? 62 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:05,781 >> I WOULDN'T VOTE. 63 00:03:05,815 --> 00:03:09,017 THE VOTE WOULD HAVE EVER BEEN 64 00:03:09,052 --> 00:03:11,219 PROPOSED WE WOULD HAVE CHANGED 65 00:03:11,253 --> 00:03:13,088 FEDERAL POLICY AND SAID THAT GAS 66 00:03:13,122 --> 00:03:14,489 TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE COLLECTED 67 00:03:14,523 --> 00:03:17,059 IN MICHIGAN ARE SPENT IN 68 00:03:17,093 --> 00:03:18,626 MICHIGAN AND THEY DON'T GO TO 69 00:03:18,661 --> 00:03:18,927 WASHINGTON. 70 00:03:18,961 --> 00:03:21,563 THERE IS NO REASON WHY SENATORS 71 00:03:21,597 --> 00:03:23,565 IN ARIZONA, SENATORS IN KENTUCKY 72 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:26,434 OR FLORIDA SHOULD BE DECIDING ON 73 00:03:26,468 --> 00:03:28,003 SPENDING FOR A BRIDGE IN 74 00:03:28,037 --> 00:03:28,269 MICHIGAN. 75 00:03:28,304 --> 00:03:29,938 >> Tim: THIS IS ONE OF 76 00:03:29,972 --> 00:03:30,538 FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES. 77 00:03:30,573 --> 00:03:33,408 >> THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES, 78 00:03:33,442 --> 00:03:35,376 CHANGING THE WAY WASHINGTON 79 00:03:35,411 --> 00:03:36,712 WORKS AND MOVING THEM BACK TO 80 00:03:36,746 --> 00:03:37,245 THE STATED. 81 00:03:37,279 --> 00:03:39,181 >> BUT YOU VOTED FOR ALL SORTS 82 00:03:39,215 --> 00:03:41,649 OF EARMARKS THAT DID PRECISELY 83 00:03:41,684 --> 00:03:43,018 SAID SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. 84 00:03:43,052 --> 00:03:46,922 YOU VOTED FOR THOUSANDS OF THOSE 85 00:03:46,956 --> 00:03:48,123 EARMARKS TO TAKE TAXPAYER 86 00:03:48,157 --> 00:03:50,225 DOLLARS AND SEND THEM TO 87 00:03:50,259 --> 00:03:52,160 CLEVELAND, SEND THEM TO IOWA, 88 00:03:52,195 --> 00:03:53,328 THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS 89 00:03:53,362 --> 00:03:54,763 THAT WHEN YOU SAY CHANGE 90 00:03:54,797 --> 00:03:56,631 WASHINGTON, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE 91 00:03:56,665 --> 00:03:56,932 WASHINGTON. 92 00:03:56,966 --> 00:03:58,900 >> CLARK, THIS IS ONE OF THE 93 00:03:58,935 --> 00:04:01,401 MYTHS YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP. 94 00:04:01,436 --> 00:04:02,603 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK. 95 00:04:02,637 --> 00:04:05,472 I VOTED IN 1990s WHEN I WAS ON 96 00:04:05,506 --> 00:04:07,875 THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WITH JOHN 97 00:04:07,909 --> 00:04:09,043 KASICH. 98 00:04:09,077 --> 00:04:10,344 FIRST TIME WE HAD THE 99 00:04:10,378 --> 00:04:11,846 OPPORTUNITY AND I'M ON THE 100 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,613 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND 101 00:04:12,647 --> 00:04:13,114 BUDGET COMMITTEE. 102 00:04:13,148 --> 00:04:15,082 WE TALKED ABOUT CHANGING POLICY 103 00:04:15,117 --> 00:04:16,951 AND MOVING MONEY BACK TO THE 104 00:04:16,985 --> 00:04:17,651 STATES. 105 00:04:17,685 --> 00:04:19,686 I STOOD WITH JOHN AND SAID THAT 106 00:04:19,721 --> 00:04:21,555 MONEY NEEDS TO STAY IN THE 107 00:04:21,589 --> 00:04:23,657 STATES, IT DOESN'T, IT SHOULDN'T 108 00:04:23,691 --> 00:04:25,359 COME TO WASHINGTON. 109 00:04:25,393 --> 00:04:27,661 >>> LET'S ASSUME FOR A 110 00:04:27,695 --> 00:04:29,630 THEORETICAL DISCUSSION, IF HAD 111 00:04:29,664 --> 00:04:31,732 TO VOTE FOR MONEY ON THE BRIDGE, 112 00:04:31,767 --> 00:04:36,403 HOW YOU WOULD VOTE, JUST SAY YES 113 00:04:36,437 --> 00:04:36,603 OR NO? 114 00:04:36,638 --> 00:04:39,974 >> WHAT'S THAT. 115 00:04:40,008 --> 00:04:43,577 NO I WOULD NOT, THESE GUYS ARE 116 00:04:43,611 --> 00:04:45,946 CORRECT IN WHAT THIS DOES IT 117 00:04:45,981 --> 00:04:47,948 DRIVES MONEY, THE MONEY COMES 118 00:04:47,983 --> 00:04:50,284 BACK TO THE STATES, THE MONEY IS 119 00:04:50,318 --> 00:04:51,919 BEING SPENT IN WASHINGTON. 120 00:04:51,953 --> 00:04:53,687 THEY DON'T HAVE WASHINGTON 121 00:04:53,721 --> 00:04:54,388 ALLOCATING THE MONEY. 122 00:04:54,422 --> 00:04:56,390 LET THE GOVERNOR IN THIS 123 00:04:56,424 --> 00:04:57,591 LEGISLATURE DECIDE WHAT THE 124 00:04:57,625 --> 00:05:00,661 PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE STATES. 125 00:05:00,695 --> 00:05:02,528 >> IF YOU HAD BEEN IN THE SENATE 126 00:05:02,562 --> 00:05:05,598 WHEN TEDDY KENNEDY WERE ALIVE 127 00:05:05,632 --> 00:05:08,134 AND HE SAID MR. HEKMAN, I WANT 128 00:05:08,169 --> 00:05:09,936 TO WORK WITH YOU ON HEALTH CARE, 129 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:11,470 WOULD YOU SIT DOWN AND WORK WITH 130 00:05:11,505 --> 00:05:11,971 HIM? 131 00:05:12,006 --> 00:05:14,207 >> I WOULD WORK WITH ANYBODY. 132 00:05:14,241 --> 00:05:16,276 YOU DON'T COMPROMISE PRINCIPLES. 133 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:18,344 I DON'T BELIEVE HEALTHCARE IS 134 00:05:18,378 --> 00:05:19,045 COMING FROM THE FEDERAL 135 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:19,712 GOVERNMENT. 136 00:05:19,746 --> 00:05:21,681 THE OBAMACARE, THE FIASCO THAT 137 00:05:21,715 --> 00:05:25,084 WE HAVE PUTS A GOVERNMENT 138 00:05:25,119 --> 00:05:26,953 BUREAUCRAT BETWEEN ME. 139 00:05:26,987 --> 00:05:28,988 >> SO YOU WOULD SAT DOWN WITH 140 00:05:29,023 --> 00:05:30,690 LIBERAL TEDDY KENNEDY ON THOSE 141 00:05:30,724 --> 00:05:31,024 ISSUES? 142 00:05:31,058 --> 00:05:33,059 >> I LOVE DEMOCRATS, 143 00:05:33,093 --> 00:05:34,260 INDEPENDENTS, REPUBLICANS. 144 00:05:34,295 --> 00:05:37,897 I HAVE AN INDEPENDENT EN COURSE 145 00:05:37,932 --> 00:05:39,532 GO ME. 146 00:05:39,566 --> 00:05:40,733 >> Tim: WHAT YOU HAVE DONE? 147 00:05:40,767 --> 00:05:43,269 >> THAT I ALREADY DONE THAT. 148 00:05:43,304 --> 00:05:44,470 AFTER PRESIDENT BUSH GOT ELECTED 149 00:05:44,504 --> 00:05:46,072 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN 150 00:05:46,106 --> 00:05:47,406 TO AUSTIN AND SIT WITH 151 00:05:47,441 --> 00:05:50,310 REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND A 152 00:05:50,344 --> 00:05:52,946 PRESIDENT BUSH AND TALK ABOUT 153 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:54,814 REFORMING EDUCATION, NO KLEILTD 154 00:05:54,849 --> 00:05:55,781 LEFT BEHIND. 155 00:05:55,816 --> 00:05:57,717 WE STARTED TOGETHER SAYING WE 156 00:05:57,751 --> 00:06:00,019 NEED TO REFORM THE FEDERAL ROLE 157 00:06:00,054 --> 00:06:00,886 IN EDUCATION. 158 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,488 WHEN NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND 159 00:06:03,522 --> 00:06:06,291 REACHED AND BECAME LEGISLATIVE 160 00:06:06,326 --> 00:06:08,626 LANGUAGE, YOU SAY, TED, IT WAS 161 00:06:08,661 --> 00:06:10,395 NICE WORKING WITH YOU BUT YOU'VE 162 00:06:10,429 --> 00:06:14,066 GONE IN SUCH A DIRECTION I'M 163 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:14,967 VOTING NO. 164 00:06:15,001 --> 00:06:16,801 >> Tim: YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM 165 00:06:16,836 --> 00:06:17,635 WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS ON THE 166 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:19,071 OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE? 167 00:06:19,105 --> 00:06:20,272 >> YOU HAVE TO TREAT EVERYBODY 168 00:06:20,306 --> 00:06:21,373 WITH RESPECT. 169 00:06:21,407 --> 00:06:23,075 THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THEIR 170 00:06:23,109 --> 00:06:24,409 CON CITY WENLTS TO COME TO 171 00:06:24,443 --> 00:06:26,211 WASHINGTON AND WORK TOWARDS 172 00:06:26,246 --> 00:06:26,578 SOLUTIONS. 173 00:06:26,612 --> 00:06:28,180 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH 174 00:06:28,214 --> 00:06:29,348 THEM BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU 175 00:06:29,382 --> 00:06:30,983 HAVE TO COMPROMISE YOUR 176 00:06:31,017 --> 00:06:32,084 PRINCIPLES TO GET SOMETHING 177 00:06:32,118 --> 00:06:32,317 DONE. 178 00:06:32,352 --> 00:06:34,719 >> WOULD YOU HAVE WORKED WITH 179 00:06:34,754 --> 00:06:35,153 TEDDY KENNEDY? 180 00:06:35,188 --> 00:06:38,223 >> I SPENT 25 YEARS OF MY LIFE 181 00:06:38,258 --> 00:06:39,624 WORKING WITH PEOPLE TO SOLVE 182 00:06:39,658 --> 00:06:40,825 APPROXIMATE AND HAVE BEEN 183 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:41,493 SUCCESSFUL IN DOING SO. 184 00:06:41,527 --> 00:06:42,961 THE THING THAT IS CRITICAL WHEN 185 00:06:42,996 --> 00:06:44,329 YOU ARE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO 186 00:06:44,364 --> 00:06:45,530 ARE NOT IN THE SAME PLACE THAT 187 00:06:45,564 --> 00:06:47,732 YOU ARE, IS TO FIGURE OUT IF 188 00:06:47,767 --> 00:06:49,501 IT'S A SOLUTION THAT WORKS OR 189 00:06:49,535 --> 00:06:50,269 COSTS MORE MONEY. 190 00:06:50,303 --> 00:06:52,404 IF I HAD BEEN PETE HOEKSTRA, I 191 00:06:52,438 --> 00:06:55,440 WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING TO ABOOL 192 00:06:55,474 --> 00:06:57,009 THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, 193 00:06:57,043 --> 00:06:58,710 INSTEAD OF FIGHTING NO CHILD 194 00:06:58,744 --> 00:06:59,444 LEFT BEHIND. 195 00:06:59,478 --> 00:07:01,478 I WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVELY 196 00:07:01,513 --> 00:07:02,280 WORKING TO SEE THAT THE 197 00:07:02,314 --> 00:07:04,148 DEPARTMENT OF FEDERAL ROLE IN 198 00:07:04,182 --> 00:07:06,517 EDUCATION IS ZERO. 199 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:07,985 WE HAVE 50 DEPARTMENTS OF 200 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:08,552 EDUCATION. 201 00:07:08,586 --> 00:07:10,254 WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITIES AND 202 00:07:10,289 --> 00:07:13,724 LOCAL SCHOOLS, GET THE 203 00:07:13,758 --> 00:07:16,060 GOVERNMENT OUT OF EDUCATION IN 204 00:07:16,094 --> 00:07:16,693 OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 205 00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:18,495 >> Tim: QUICK ANSWERS TO SHORTER 206 00:07:18,530 --> 00:07:19,130 QUESTIONS. 207 00:07:19,164 --> 00:07:21,332 HOW DID YOU VOTE ON LEGALIZING 208 00:07:21,366 --> 00:07:21,732 MEDICAL MARIJUANA? 209 00:07:21,766 --> 00:07:23,367 >> THAT IS A PERSONAL VOLT. 210 00:07:23,402 --> 00:07:25,102 I WON'T TELL YOU HOW I'M VOTING 211 00:07:25,137 --> 00:07:26,503 IN THE BALLOT BOX. 212 00:07:26,538 --> 00:07:28,539 >> DO YOU THINK PEOPLE OUGHT TO 213 00:07:28,573 --> 00:07:29,573 HAVE ACCESS TO THAT? 214 00:07:29,607 --> 00:07:31,342 >> THAT IS A DECISION THAT IS 215 00:07:31,376 --> 00:07:32,776 MADE THROUGH THE FDA. 216 00:07:32,811 --> 00:07:34,378 RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN CONFLICT 217 00:07:34,413 --> 00:07:36,447 BETWEEN THE FDA AND STATED RULES 218 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:37,148 AND REGULATIONS. 219 00:07:37,182 --> 00:07:39,183 WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MESS IN 220 00:07:39,217 --> 00:07:41,152 THIS STATE IN TERMS OF HOW YOU 221 00:07:41,186 --> 00:07:45,622 ARE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING THIS 222 00:07:45,657 --> 00:07:46,824 NEW PROCESS IN THE STATE. 223 00:07:46,858 --> 00:07:47,724 IT'S A MESS. 224 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,660 >> Tim: WOULD YOU SUPPORT A 225 00:07:49,694 --> 00:07:51,595 TWO-THIRDS VOTED TO RAISE TAXES 226 00:07:51,629 --> 00:07:52,964 ON SO-CALLED SUPER MAJORITY? 227 00:07:52,998 --> 00:07:55,132 >> I SUPPORT SUPER MAJORITY, I 228 00:07:55,167 --> 00:07:56,700 WOULD SUPPORT A SUPER MAJORITY 229 00:07:56,734 --> 00:07:58,302 AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO RAISE 230 00:07:58,337 --> 00:07:59,703 TAXES AND TO RAISE SPENDING. 231 00:07:59,737 --> 00:08:01,938 >> Tim: WOULD YOU VOTE TO BAN 232 00:08:01,973 --> 00:08:02,372 ASSAULT WEAPONS? 233 00:08:02,406 --> 00:08:05,208 >> I VOTED KNOW ON BANNING 234 00:08:05,242 --> 00:08:05,775 ASSAULT WEAPONS. 235 00:08:05,809 --> 00:08:07,844 >> HOW WOULD YOU DO ON THAT? 236 00:08:07,878 --> 00:08:09,545 >> I WOULD NOT BAN ASSAULT 237 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:10,146 WEAPONS. 238 00:08:10,181 --> 00:08:12,015 THE PROBLEM IS NOT GUNS, IT'S 239 00:08:12,049 --> 00:08:13,049 PEOPLE. 240 00:08:13,084 --> 00:08:15,085 IT'S APPLYING THE LAW TO PEOPLE 241 00:08:15,119 --> 00:08:17,620 WHO VIOLATED LAWSUIT. 242 00:08:17,654 --> 00:08:19,622 >> TWO-THIRDS VOTE ON TAXES? 243 00:08:19,656 --> 00:08:20,590 >> ABSOLUTELY. 244 00:08:20,624 --> 00:08:22,825 POINT OF FACT, PETE HOEKSTRA 245 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:26,429 SAID HE WANTED THE NEW PATRIOT 246 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:26,963 TAX. 247 00:08:26,998 --> 00:08:28,465 PEOPLE ARE OVERTAXED THE 248 00:08:28,499 --> 00:08:30,266 GOVERNMENT HAS OVERTAXED US. 249 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:32,302 WE NEED TO BE REDUCING TAXES NOT 250 00:08:32,336 --> 00:08:34,337 JUST HOLDING THEM THE SAME. 251 00:08:34,372 --> 00:08:36,606 >> Tim: HOW YOU WOULD VOTE FOR 252 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,640 MEDICAL MARIJUANA? 253 00:08:37,674 --> 00:08:38,908 >> I THINK. 254 00:08:38,942 --> 00:08:40,076 >> Tim: YOU DIDN'T VOTE? 255 00:08:40,111 --> 00:08:42,345 >> I THINK IN POINT OF FACT, 256 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:44,114 MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LIMITED 257 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:47,083 ONLY TO PRESCRIBED MEDICAL 258 00:08:47,118 --> 00:08:48,918 PURPOSES PROPERLY SUPERVISED I 259 00:08:48,952 --> 00:08:50,120 THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE. 260 00:08:50,154 --> 00:08:52,955 >> I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR IT? 261 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:54,790 >> I DON'T REVEAL MY VOTES IN 262 00:08:54,825 --> 00:08:55,058 THAT WAY. 263 00:08:55,092 --> 00:08:58,094 I WOULD HAVE VOTED TO SEE THAT 264 00:08:58,129 --> 00:09:00,230 PRESCRIBED LIMITED, SUPERVISED 265 00:09:00,264 --> 00:09:02,831 ICE FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES ONLY 266 00:09:02,865 --> 00:09:05,401 WOULD BE PERMISSION I BELIEVE. 267 00:09:05,435 --> 00:09:07,436 >> WOULD THE BALLOT PROPOSAL 268 00:09:07,470 --> 00:09:08,904 MEET THE CRITERIA? 269 00:09:08,938 --> 00:09:09,804 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 270 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:11,973 I DON'T THINK IT MET THOSE 271 00:09:12,008 --> 00:09:13,575 PURPOSES, I VOTED AGAINST IT. 272 00:09:13,609 --> 00:09:16,978 >> I VOTED NO. 273 00:09:17,013 --> 00:09:21,216 I AM A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND 274 00:09:21,251 --> 00:09:22,651 JUDGE. 275 00:09:22,685 --> 00:09:24,886 YOU ALLOW IT ONE DOOR AND PEOPLE 276 00:09:24,921 --> 00:09:27,589 TAKE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. 277 00:09:27,623 --> 00:09:30,325 >> TWO ADVISOR THIRDZ VOTE ON 278 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:30,859 RAISING TAXES? 279 00:09:30,893 --> 00:09:32,294 >> I WOULD SUPPORTED THAT. 280 00:09:32,328 --> 00:09:37,533 >> VOTE ON BANNING PURCHASE OF 281 00:09:37,567 --> 00:09:37,933 ASSAULT WEAPONS? 282 00:09:37,967 --> 00:09:41,036 >> I WOULD VOTE NO. 283 00:09:41,071 --> 00:09:44,339 >> MR. DURANT HAS DONE SOMETHING 284 00:09:44,374 --> 00:09:45,674 CIVILLY WRONG, THE ALLEGATIONS 285 00:09:45,708 --> 00:09:46,908 IN THE U.S. SENATE? 286 00:09:46,943 --> 00:09:48,710 >> WE FILED A CLAIM IN THE SUPER 287 00:09:48,744 --> 00:09:52,581 PAC, THEY ARE ADVOCATING THE 288 00:09:52,615 --> 00:09:54,450 ELECTION OF MR. DURANT. 289 00:09:54,484 --> 00:09:56,785 ON JULY 15 FILED A STATEMENT 290 00:09:56,819 --> 00:09:59,588 WE'VE RAISED NO MONEY UP UNTIL 291 00:09:59,622 --> 00:10:00,755 JUNE 3rd. 292 00:10:00,790 --> 00:10:02,457 >> Tim: DO YOU HOLD HIM 293 00:10:02,491 --> 00:10:03,224 PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? 294 00:10:03,258 --> 00:10:04,925 >> NO. 295 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,495 I HOPE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENTAL 296 00:10:07,529 --> 00:10:08,896 WILL FINISH THEIR INVESTIGATIONS 297 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:11,499 BUT AS CANDIDATES FOR OFFICE, I 298 00:10:11,533 --> 00:10:13,334 HOPE WE'VE ALL MET THE STANDARD 299 00:10:13,368 --> 00:10:16,670 THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY 300 00:10:16,705 --> 00:10:18,606 AFFILIATION DIRECTLY OR 301 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,640 INDIRECTLY WITH A SUPER PAC. 302 00:10:19,674 --> 00:10:22,876 I'M ASSUMING THAT MR. DURANT HAS 303 00:10:22,911 --> 00:10:24,011 MET THE CRITERIA. 304 00:10:24,045 --> 00:10:26,780 >> Tim: HE IS NOT UNFITTED TO 305 00:10:26,815 --> 00:10:27,982 SERVE IN THE U.S. SENATE? 306 00:10:28,016 --> 00:10:30,684 >> NO. 307 00:10:30,719 --> 00:10:32,853 I THINK PETE HOEKSTRA HAS JOINED 308 00:10:32,887 --> 00:10:35,556 WITH THE DEMOCRATS TO ATTACK ME 309 00:10:35,591 --> 00:10:37,592 REGARDING CORNERSTONE SCHOOLS. 310 00:10:37,626 --> 00:10:39,893 WHAT A DIRTY IS JET ABOUT THIS 311 00:10:39,928 --> 00:10:41,829 THE DEMOCRATS HAVE VICIOUSLY 312 00:10:41,863 --> 00:10:43,431 STARTED TO ATTACK A TREMENDOUS 313 00:10:43,465 --> 00:10:45,733 SUCCESS STORY IN DETROIT FOR 314 00:10:45,767 --> 00:10:46,200 THIS REASON. 315 00:10:46,235 --> 00:10:48,969 THEY KNOW THEIR INTERNAL POLLS 316 00:10:49,004 --> 00:10:52,206 THAT SAYS CLARK DURANT WOULD BE 317 00:10:52,241 --> 00:10:56,310 MORE FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE 318 00:10:56,345 --> 00:11:00,448 AGAINST DEBBY STABENOW. 319 00:11:00,482 --> 00:11:02,949 THE ATTACKS ARE DESIGNED TO 320 00:11:02,983 --> 00:11:05,519 DEFEAT ME IN THE PRIMARY. 321 00:11:05,553 --> 00:11:08,622 >>> THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ATTACKS 322 00:11:08,656 --> 00:11:10,056 ARE THEY ANY OF THEM TRUE? 323 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:14,060 >> NO, EVERYTHING WE DID WERE 324 00:11:14,094 --> 00:11:15,362 ALL CONSISTENT WITH REGULATIONS. 325 00:11:15,396 --> 00:11:17,564 >> Tim: HAS MR. DURANT DONE 326 00:11:17,598 --> 00:11:18,031 ANYTHING WRONG? 327 00:11:18,065 --> 00:11:20,967 >> THE SUPER PAC THING. 328 00:11:21,001 --> 00:11:22,402 THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 329 00:11:22,436 --> 00:11:22,835 INDEPENDENT. 330 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:25,805 WHEN THE BROTHER OF THE CAMPAIGN 331 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:28,007 CHAIRMAN IS HEAD OF A SUPER PAC, 332 00:11:28,042 --> 00:11:30,410 ONE HAS TO ASK THE QUESTION, IS 333 00:11:30,444 --> 00:11:36,183 IT REALLY INDEPENDENT? 334 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:38,318 HE IS SAYING HE IS INDEPENDENT. 335 00:11:38,352 --> 00:11:39,386 COME ON. 336 00:11:39,420 --> 00:11:40,654 IT'S YOUR BROTHER. 337 00:11:40,688 --> 00:11:42,789 >> NOT MY BROTHER. 338 00:11:42,823 --> 00:11:44,824 >> IT'S THE CHAIRMAN'S BROTHER 339 00:11:44,858 --> 00:11:46,959 THAT RUNS IT AND THE AD ITSELF 340 00:11:46,994 --> 00:11:48,928 HAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO IT. 341 00:11:48,962 --> 00:11:51,798 IT STRIKES ME THERE IS SOME 342 00:11:51,832 --> 00:11:52,232 OVERLAP. 343 00:11:52,266 --> 00:11:53,966 COMMON SENSE TELLS US THERE HAS 344 00:11:54,001 --> 00:11:55,235 TO BE SOME OVERLAP. 345 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:56,736 >> I AM NOT SAYING HE IS GUILTY. 346 00:11:56,770 --> 00:11:57,671 >> YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE. 347 00:11:57,705 --> 00:11:59,573 >> I'M JUST SAYING, COME ON. 348 00:11:59,607 --> 00:12:01,074 >> WHY DID YOU LOOK AT HIM LIKE 349 00:12:01,108 --> 00:12:01,440 THAT? 350 00:12:01,474 --> 00:12:03,742 >> I'M SHOCKED, RANDY. 351 00:12:03,776 --> 00:12:07,012 STOP PLAYING POLITICS. 352 00:12:07,046 --> 00:12:09,781 MOST IMPORTANT THING FACING OUR 353 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:11,717 COUNTRY IS LACK OF JOBS AND 354 00:12:11,751 --> 00:12:12,218 ECONOMY. 355 00:12:12,252 --> 00:12:13,652 WE HAVE CAREER POLITICIANS 356 00:12:13,687 --> 00:12:15,187 PLAYING IN THE WEEDS WITH THESE 357 00:12:15,222 --> 00:12:16,121 OTHER THINGS. 358 00:12:16,155 --> 00:12:17,756 OF COURSE IT'S INDEPENDENT. 359 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:20,492 IT'S A FREE COUNTRY, BY THE WAY. 360 00:12:20,527 --> 00:12:22,794 WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW 361 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:24,396 CAREER POLITICIANS, WITH ALL DUE 362 00:12:24,431 --> 00:12:27,899 RESPECT TO MY REPUBLICAN 363 00:12:27,934 --> 00:12:29,602 OPPONENT PETE HOEKSTRA WHO HAS 364 00:12:29,636 --> 00:12:31,437 BEEN IN CONGRESS FOR 18 YEARS 365 00:12:31,471 --> 00:12:35,107 AND GONE ALONG WITH DEBBY 366 00:12:35,141 --> 00:12:37,976 STABENOW IN LIMITING MICHIGAN 367 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:39,545 PRODUCTS WHERE WE GROW THINGS 368 00:12:39,579 --> 00:12:40,646 AND MAKE THINGS TO BE SHIPPED 369 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:42,348 OVER THE MARKET. 370 00:12:42,382 --> 00:12:46,318 >> Tim: YOU ACCUSE HOEKSTRA TO 371 00:12:46,353 --> 00:12:47,753 LEAK SECURITY INFORMATION? 372 00:12:47,787 --> 00:12:48,220 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. 373 00:12:48,255 --> 00:12:49,988 >> IT'S A LUDICROUS CHARGE. 374 00:12:50,022 --> 00:12:51,790 IT'S THE SAME KIND OF CHARGE 375 00:12:51,824 --> 00:12:54,593 THAT CLARK MADE JUST NOW SAKE 376 00:12:54,628 --> 00:12:57,896 HOEKSTRA IS LIKE STABENOW. 377 00:12:57,930 --> 00:13:01,032 90% AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION, 378 00:13:01,067 --> 00:13:03,434 HUNDRED PERCENT PRO-LIFE, DEBBY 379 00:13:03,469 --> 00:13:05,136 IS ZERO. 380 00:13:05,170 --> 00:13:08,606 STRAIGHT A'S FROM THE NRA. 381 00:13:08,641 --> 00:13:11,909 DEBBY IS STRAIGHT "F". 382 00:13:11,943 --> 00:13:13,611 DEBBY IS SPEND THRIFT. 383 00:13:13,646 --> 00:13:14,912 IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT 384 00:13:14,946 --> 00:13:16,681 PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN ARE SO 385 00:13:16,715 --> 00:13:17,882 FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE 386 00:13:17,916 --> 00:13:20,084 CLARK, THE NEGATIVE ADS DON'T 387 00:13:20,118 --> 00:13:20,585 WORK. 388 00:13:20,619 --> 00:13:22,654 THEY ARE NOT TRUE. 389 00:13:22,688 --> 00:13:24,689 THE END RESOLVE THE POLLING 390 00:13:24,723 --> 00:13:26,824 NUMBERS CONTINUE TO BE VERY, 391 00:13:26,858 --> 00:13:27,258 VERY STRONG. 392 00:13:27,293 --> 00:13:29,794 THIS IS VERY MUCH, VERY SIMILAR 393 00:13:29,828 --> 00:13:31,462 TO WHAT YOU DID WHEN YOU RAN FOR 394 00:13:31,497 --> 00:13:35,833 OFFICE IN 1990. 395 00:13:35,867 --> 00:13:37,735 YOU WERE WAY DOWN. 396 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:38,803 [ LAUGHTER ] 397 00:13:38,837 --> 00:13:40,772 >> YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE 398 00:13:40,806 --> 00:13:42,473 LONG BEFORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 399 00:13:42,508 --> 00:13:44,008 I WAS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 400 00:13:44,042 --> 00:13:45,510 THE NUMBERS ARE BAD. 401 00:13:45,544 --> 00:13:48,078 YOU START RUNNING A DESPERATE 402 00:13:48,113 --> 00:13:48,479 CAMPAIGN. 403 00:13:48,514 --> 00:13:50,515 YOU STARTED RUNNING NEGATIVE 404 00:13:50,549 --> 00:13:51,148 ADS. 405 00:13:51,183 --> 00:13:53,451 YOU CALL FOR LINCOLN DOUGLAS 406 00:13:53,485 --> 00:13:54,018 DEBATES. 407 00:13:54,052 --> 00:13:55,320 THE SAME PERSON IS RUNNING THE 408 00:13:55,354 --> 00:13:56,487 CAMPAIGN AND DOING THE SAME 409 00:13:56,522 --> 00:14:01,591 THING NOW 11 YEARS LATER. 410 00:14:01,626 --> 00:14:03,293 >> LET'S LOOK AT THIS CONCRETE. 411 00:14:03,328 --> 00:14:06,029 MY AD SAYS THE FOLLOWING THINGS, 412 00:14:06,063 --> 00:14:07,397 THAT WASHINGTON CHANGED PETE 413 00:14:07,432 --> 00:14:07,798 HOEKSTRA. 414 00:14:07,832 --> 00:14:12,035 YOU CAME IN 1992 AND YOU GAVE A 415 00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:14,838 OP-ED FOR THE WASHINGTON TIMES. 416 00:14:14,872 --> 00:14:16,306 YOU TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THE DEBT 417 00:14:16,341 --> 00:14:18,007 AND SPENDING THAT WAS BEFORE US 418 00:14:18,042 --> 00:14:19,843 WOULD BURY OUR CHILDREN AND OUR 419 00:14:19,877 --> 00:14:20,444 GRANDCHILDREN. 420 00:14:20,478 --> 00:14:26,850 WHAT DID YOU DO? 421 00:14:26,884 --> 00:14:28,785 WHAT YOU DID YOU VOTED TIME AND 422 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:30,520 TIME AGAIN AND THEN YOUR LAST 423 00:14:30,555 --> 00:14:33,390 VOTE TOOK THE DEBT TO OVER $11 424 00:14:33,424 --> 00:14:34,758 TRILLION. 425 00:14:34,792 --> 00:14:36,926 EVEN DEBBY STABENOW DIDN'T VOTE 426 00:14:36,961 --> 00:14:39,262 FOR THE WALL STREET BAILOUT AND 427 00:14:39,296 --> 00:14:41,197 YOU DID. 428 00:14:41,232 --> 00:14:43,199 STABENOW DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE 429 00:14:43,234 --> 00:14:45,736 CONTROLLER GENERAL CALLED THE 430 00:14:45,770 --> 00:14:47,571 MOST IRRESPONSIBLE PIECE OF 431 00:14:47,605 --> 00:14:53,443 LEGISLATION, MEDICARE PART "D". 432 00:14:53,478 --> 00:14:56,112 >> IT'S CLEAR, MY RECORD IS A 433 00:14:56,146 --> 00:14:57,547 FISCAL CONSERVATIVE. 434 00:14:57,582 --> 00:15:02,317 I VOTED FOR TARP BECAUSE JUST 435 00:15:02,352 --> 00:15:06,756 LIKE PAUL RYAN RECOGNIZED THIS 436 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:08,758 WAS NOT ABOUT BAILING OUT WALL 437 00:15:08,792 --> 00:15:09,024 STREET. 438 00:15:09,058 --> 00:15:12,528 IT WAS BAILING OUT AND HELPING 439 00:15:12,562 --> 00:15:14,397 PEOPLE AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL. 440 00:15:14,431 --> 00:15:16,732 THIS WAS GOING TO SHUT DOWN 441 00:15:16,767 --> 00:15:21,604 SMALL, MEDIUM SIZED BUSINESSES 442 00:15:21,638 --> 00:15:24,339 ACROSS THE STAIT. 443 00:15:24,374 --> 00:15:27,476 IN OAKLAND COUNTY, THE TRUTH OF 444 00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:29,077 THE MATTER -- 445 00:15:29,112 --> 00:15:30,780 >> THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS 446 00:15:30,814 --> 00:15:31,146 ALL THAT MONEY. 447 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:37,486 [ TALKING OVER EACH OTHER ] 448 00:15:37,521 --> 00:15:38,554 >> IT'S STILL WORKING. 449 00:15:38,588 --> 00:15:39,488 >> YOU KNOW WHAT. 450 00:15:39,523 --> 00:15:42,525 THIS IS LIKE, FRANKLY, TWO 451 00:15:42,559 --> 00:15:45,327 PEOPLE WRESTLING IN A LITTLE ROW 452 00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:47,463 BOAT HEADING OVER THE NIAGRA 453 00:15:47,497 --> 00:15:47,730 FALLS. 454 00:15:47,764 --> 00:15:50,533 WE ARE AMERICANS WHETHER WE'RE 455 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:52,501 DETAILS, INDEPENDENTS OR HERE WE 456 00:15:52,536 --> 00:15:53,135 ARE REPUBLICANS. 457 00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:54,303 I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE THREE 458 00:15:54,337 --> 00:15:56,639 OF US, IF WE GET TO WASHINGTON, 459 00:15:56,673 --> 00:15:58,841 D.C., WE WILL VOTE, ANY ONE OF 460 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:01,643 US WILL VOTE WITHIN SINGLE 461 00:16:01,677 --> 00:16:03,377 PERCENTAGE VOTES THE SAME. 462 00:16:03,412 --> 00:16:06,013 WE ARE ARGUING, WE NEED -- TO ME 463 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:08,049 THE BIG ISSUE IS NOT WHO GETS 464 00:16:08,083 --> 00:16:08,550 ELECTED. 465 00:16:08,584 --> 00:16:11,953 THE BIG ISSUE WE NEED TO FIX OUR 466 00:16:11,987 --> 00:16:12,554 COUNTRY. 467 00:16:12,588 --> 00:16:15,189 OUR COUNTRY IS GOING OVER THE 468 00:16:15,223 --> 00:16:15,389 CLIFF. 469 00:16:15,424 --> 00:16:17,024 >> YOU SAID THE OTHER DAY, SIR, 470 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:18,326 THAT HAD YOU A STRONG SENSE, 471 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,128 THAT GOD WANTS US IN THIS THING. 472 00:16:21,163 --> 00:16:22,597 HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? 473 00:16:22,631 --> 00:16:25,533 >> REFERRING TO MY WIFE AND ME. 474 00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:26,501 RIGHT. 475 00:16:26,535 --> 00:16:30,137 AGAIN IT GOES BACK TO DECEMBER 476 00:16:30,172 --> 00:16:31,673 2010, A STRONG SENSE THAT WE 477 00:16:31,707 --> 00:16:34,208 NEED TO DO THIS AND CONFIRM BY 478 00:16:34,242 --> 00:16:35,610 TALKING TO OUR KIDS. 479 00:16:35,644 --> 00:16:36,978 WE HAVE 12 KIDS. 480 00:16:37,012 --> 00:16:39,246 >> YOU SAID GOD WANTS US IN THIS 481 00:16:39,281 --> 00:16:39,914 THING. 482 00:16:39,949 --> 00:16:41,516 HOW DO YOU KNOW GOD WANTS YOU IN 483 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:41,816 THIS? 484 00:16:41,851 --> 00:16:44,886 >> YOU DON'T KNOW 2010 HINDSIGHT 485 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,421 OR VISION, YOU KNOW THE SENSES 486 00:16:47,456 --> 00:16:48,756 IN YOUR HEART. 487 00:16:48,791 --> 00:16:51,058 I HAVE A HEART FOR OUR COUNTRY. 488 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:52,126 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN 489 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,796 OUR LIVES SO WE CAN ENJOY THIS 490 00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:55,497 CONVERSATION TODAY. 491 00:16:55,531 --> 00:16:58,366 I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE. 492 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,267 LET AMERICA DIE. 493 00:17:00,302 --> 00:17:02,669 WE LIVE HANDFUL OF YEARS 494 00:17:02,704 --> 00:17:05,238 REACHING A DROP DEAD DATE WHERE 495 00:17:05,272 --> 00:17:08,909 ALL THE MONEY ONLY PAYS INTEREST 496 00:17:08,943 --> 00:17:09,275 ON OUR DEBT. 497 00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:11,411 I THINK EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO 498 00:17:11,445 --> 00:17:13,079 BE INVOLVED IN THIS CRISIS. 499 00:17:13,114 --> 00:17:17,350 NEEDS TO ASK GOD, BRING A 500 00:17:17,385 --> 00:17:17,784 REVIVAL TO AMERICA. 501 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:19,653 THAT IS ONLY THING THAT IS GOING 502 00:17:19,687 --> 00:17:20,988 TO FUEL CHANGED HEARTS. 503 00:17:21,022 --> 00:17:24,057 BUT WHAT DOES GOD WANT ME TO DO. 504 00:17:24,091 --> 00:17:26,159 IT'S SO CLEAR TO ME AND MY WIFE 505 00:17:26,193 --> 00:17:27,360 AS WE TRAVEL THE STATE. 506 00:17:27,395 --> 00:17:29,362 WE'VE BEEN IN THE STATE LONGER 507 00:17:29,397 --> 00:17:31,031 THAN THESE TWO GUYS. 508 00:17:31,065 --> 00:17:31,632 WE LOVE THIS. 509 00:17:31,666 --> 00:17:34,835 WE WANTED TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY. 510 00:17:34,869 --> 00:17:37,671 >> WOULD YOU VOTE TO ELIMINATE 511 00:17:37,705 --> 00:17:39,105 THE HOME INTEREST TAX? 512 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:42,442 >> HE HAS ASKED THIS IN A WAY TO 513 00:17:42,476 --> 00:17:44,310 CALL INTO QUESTION HIS OWN 514 00:17:44,345 --> 00:17:46,179 COMMITMENT AND WAITED GOD WOULD 515 00:17:46,213 --> 00:17:47,014 SPEAK TO HIM. 516 00:17:47,048 --> 00:17:49,149 BOTH PETE AND I HAVE BEEN ON THE 517 00:17:49,183 --> 00:17:50,083 TRAIL WITH RANDY. 518 00:17:50,117 --> 00:17:52,118 I CAN SPEAK FOR BOTH US, NO ONE 519 00:17:52,153 --> 00:17:53,386 WOULD GO THROUGH THE KINDS OF 520 00:17:53,421 --> 00:17:54,955 THINGS THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING 521 00:17:54,989 --> 00:17:56,657 THROUGH UNLESS WE FELT A DEEPER 522 00:17:56,691 --> 00:17:57,157 CALLING. 523 00:17:57,191 --> 00:18:00,861 I BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE WITH 524 00:18:00,895 --> 00:18:01,327 PETE. 525 00:18:01,362 --> 00:18:03,262 I BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS CALLED 526 00:18:03,296 --> 00:18:04,797 EVERY PERSON TO FIND A PLACE IN 527 00:18:04,831 --> 00:18:06,899 THEIR LIVES WHERE THEY CAN MAKE 528 00:18:06,934 --> 00:18:08,267 A DIFFERENCE FOR OTHERS. 529 00:18:08,301 --> 00:18:10,570 PEOPLE WHO GET INTO POLITICS. 530 00:18:10,604 --> 00:18:12,104 PEOPLE WHO GET INTO THE MEDIA. 531 00:18:12,138 --> 00:18:13,639 EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT GIFTS. 532 00:18:13,674 --> 00:18:15,507 IF RANDY FEELS IN THAT WAY AND 533 00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:17,443 DIFFERENT WAYS WE ALL HAVE BEEN 534 00:18:17,477 --> 00:18:19,679 EQUIPPED TO BE IN THIS ARENA 535 00:18:19,713 --> 00:18:25,451 BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY IS AT RISK. 536 00:18:25,485 --> 00:18:27,753 >> I THINK FAITH AND RELIGION, 537 00:18:27,788 --> 00:18:29,755 IT'S VERY DEEP AND INTERNAL 538 00:18:29,790 --> 00:18:30,322 BELIEF. 539 00:18:30,356 --> 00:18:32,424 BUT DIANE AND I WOULD NOT BE 540 00:18:32,459 --> 00:18:34,927 INVOLVED IN THIS IF WE DIDN'T 541 00:18:34,962 --> 00:18:36,428 BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CALLING 542 00:18:36,463 --> 00:18:38,330 THAT GOD HAS PLACED. 543 00:18:38,364 --> 00:18:40,132 DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO 544 00:18:40,166 --> 00:18:41,533 WIN, ALL RIGHT? 545 00:18:41,568 --> 00:18:44,436 WHEN WE LOST THE GOVERNOR'S RACE 546 00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:48,407 THERE WAS NARROW -- YOU KNOW, WE 547 00:18:48,441 --> 00:18:50,342 JUST KIND OF LEFT THAT NIGHT AND 548 00:18:50,376 --> 00:18:52,578 SAID, WOW, THIS IS EXCITING. 549 00:18:52,613 --> 00:18:55,715 GOD HAS SOMETHING BETTER IN MIND 550 00:18:55,749 --> 00:18:58,718 FOR US THAN BEING GOVERNOR OF 551 00:18:58,752 --> 00:18:59,885 MICHIGAN. 552 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,186 SO IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. 553 00:19:01,221 --> 00:19:03,287 FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE PEOPLE 554 00:19:03,322 --> 00:19:07,125 OF FAITH, MANY OF THE VIEWERS 555 00:19:07,159 --> 00:19:09,928 HERE, WE SEARCH HARD TO TRY TO 556 00:19:09,962 --> 00:19:11,462 FIND OUT WHAT THE WILL OF GOD IS 557 00:19:11,497 --> 00:19:14,532 IN OUR LIVES AND TO FOLLOW HIS 558 00:19:14,566 --> 00:19:15,466 TEACHINGS. 559 00:19:15,501 --> 00:19:16,134 ABSOLUTELY. 560 00:19:16,168 --> 00:19:17,769 >> MR. HEKMAN WOULD YOU 561 00:19:17,803 --> 00:19:21,572 ELIMINATE THE INTEREST TAX 562 00:19:21,607 --> 00:19:21,940 EXEMPTION? 563 00:19:21,974 --> 00:19:25,944 >> GIVE ME MORE ON THAT. 564 00:19:25,978 --> 00:19:28,246 THE MORTGAGE DEDUCTION. 565 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,547 NOT DIRECTLY. 566 00:19:29,581 --> 00:19:30,515 >> Tim: NOT DIRECTLY. 567 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:33,217 >> YOU SAID YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF 568 00:19:33,252 --> 00:19:35,186 CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES. 569 00:19:35,220 --> 00:19:38,089 THIS IS TAX LOOPHOLE. 570 00:19:38,124 --> 00:19:39,858 >> IT'S ENJOYED BY MANY PEOPLE. 571 00:19:39,892 --> 00:19:42,393 I AM IN FAVOR OF THE FAIR TAX. 572 00:19:42,427 --> 00:19:46,731 >> Tim: SO YOU NO VOTE? 573 00:19:46,766 --> 00:19:48,900 >> NO. 574 00:19:48,934 --> 00:19:51,369 >> I BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY 575 00:19:51,403 --> 00:19:54,505 EXEMPTIONS, I BELIEVE WE NEED A 576 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:55,339 FLAT TAX. 577 00:19:55,374 --> 00:19:56,975 THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS AND 578 00:19:57,009 --> 00:19:58,943 DEDUCTIONS WOULD BE FOR YOUR 579 00:19:58,978 --> 00:20:01,579 HOME MORTGAGE FOR CHARITY AND 580 00:20:01,613 --> 00:20:04,281 FOR HEALTHCARE. 581 00:20:04,315 --> 00:20:04,915 PEOPLE OUGHT TO GET THE SAME 582 00:20:04,949 --> 00:20:06,917 TREATMENT AS COMPANIES GET IN 583 00:20:06,951 --> 00:20:08,986 ABLE TO FIND HEALTH CARE. 584 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,888 >> AND ELIMINATE THE MORTGAGE? 585 00:20:10,922 --> 00:20:12,756 >> TIM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS 586 00:20:12,791 --> 00:20:14,624 RESTRUCTURE THE TAX CODE. 587 00:20:14,659 --> 00:20:15,759 >> Tim: BEFORE YOU GET THERE 588 00:20:15,794 --> 00:20:16,727 WOULD YOU VOTE TO ELIMINATE 589 00:20:16,761 --> 00:20:17,627 THAT? 590 00:20:17,662 --> 00:20:20,864 >> WE NEED FUNDAMENTAL TAX 591 00:20:20,899 --> 00:20:23,801 REFORM IF WE EXPECT TO GET THIS 592 00:20:23,835 --> 00:20:25,535 ECONOMY MOVING. 593 00:20:25,570 --> 00:20:28,438 THE ISSUE IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO 594 00:20:28,472 --> 00:20:29,272 GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. 595 00:20:29,307 --> 00:20:30,674 WITH A KIND OF CHANGES ARE WE 596 00:20:30,709 --> 00:20:33,210 GOING TO MAKE, IN TERMS OF TAXES 597 00:20:33,244 --> 00:20:35,579 AND REGULATORY REFORM AND ENERGY 598 00:20:35,613 --> 00:20:37,514 POLICY THAT PUT AMERICANS BACK 599 00:20:37,548 --> 00:20:37,848 TO WORK. 600 00:20:37,882 --> 00:20:40,217 >> Tim: MR. HEKMAN, DO YOU 601 00:20:40,251 --> 00:20:43,386 SUPPORT TWO TAX BRACKETS, 10% 602 00:20:43,421 --> 00:20:44,688 AND 25%? 603 00:20:44,723 --> 00:20:45,956 >> I COULD SUPPORT THAT. 604 00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:47,791 >> IT WOULD BE LOSS OF REVENUE? 605 00:20:47,826 --> 00:20:49,793 >> IT WOULD BUT ALONG WITH SOME 606 00:20:49,828 --> 00:20:51,328 OF THE THINGS THAT PETE TALKED 607 00:20:51,362 --> 00:20:52,830 ABOUT, WE CAN GET THIS ECONOMY 608 00:20:52,864 --> 00:20:53,263 GOING. 609 00:20:53,297 --> 00:20:54,698 IF YOU WANT TO KILL AN ECONOMY, 610 00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:56,499 YOU COULDN'T DO MUCH BETTER THAN 611 00:20:56,534 --> 00:20:57,868 WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. 612 00:20:57,902 --> 00:20:59,369 >> TWO TAX BRACKETS? 613 00:20:59,403 --> 00:21:01,938 >> I WOULD SUPPORT IT. 614 00:21:01,972 --> 00:21:03,973 HERE IS THE THINK I WOULD 615 00:21:04,007 --> 00:21:04,540 SUPPLEMENT HIS ANSWER WITH. 616 00:21:04,574 --> 00:21:05,908 I THINK YOU WOULD GET MORE 617 00:21:05,943 --> 00:21:06,142 REVENUE. 618 00:21:06,176 --> 00:21:10,346 I THINK WE NEED MORE ECONOMIC 619 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:10,579 GROWTH. 620 00:21:10,614 --> 00:21:12,381 >> Tim: BUT IN THE PROCESS YOU 621 00:21:12,415 --> 00:21:13,582 LOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? 622 00:21:13,617 --> 00:21:15,317 >> RONALD REAGAN HAD THE RIGHT 623 00:21:15,352 --> 00:21:17,653 THING, KENNEDY HAD THE RIGHT 624 00:21:17,687 --> 00:21:18,654 THING. 625 00:21:18,688 --> 00:21:21,824 NO, IT'S ORGANICALLY UP. 626 00:21:21,859 --> 00:21:23,793 THE ECONOMY STARTS TO GROW. 627 00:21:23,827 --> 00:21:25,494 >> TRICKLE DOWN. 628 00:21:25,528 --> 00:21:27,930 >> YOU ARE SAYING IT'S TRICKLE 629 00:21:27,965 --> 00:21:28,197 DOWN. 630 00:21:28,232 --> 00:21:30,066 >> THE ANSWER IS NO, IT'S NOT 631 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:30,399 TRICKLE DOWN. 632 00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:31,934 WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU ALLOW 633 00:21:31,969 --> 00:21:33,669 PEOPLE TO KEEP MORE OF WHAT THEY 634 00:21:33,703 --> 00:21:35,337 EARN, ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE 635 00:21:35,372 --> 00:21:37,206 CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN LIVES. 636 00:21:37,241 --> 00:21:38,307 JOBS GET CREATED. 637 00:21:38,341 --> 00:21:40,709 BUSINESSES EXPAND AND FARMS AND 638 00:21:40,744 --> 00:21:41,911 BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITIES 639 00:21:41,945 --> 00:21:42,511 ARE STRENGTHENED. 640 00:21:42,545 --> 00:21:43,512 >> TWO BRACKETS? 641 00:21:43,546 --> 00:21:44,546 >> WE'VE BEEN THERE. 642 00:21:44,581 --> 00:21:45,214 WE'VE DONE THAT. 643 00:21:45,249 --> 00:21:47,016 WE DID THIS IN THE 90s AND DID 644 00:21:47,050 --> 00:21:48,184 IT IN THE 80s. 645 00:21:48,218 --> 00:21:50,820 YOU CUT TAXES, SIMPLIFY THE TAX 646 00:21:50,854 --> 00:21:51,353 CODE. 647 00:21:51,388 --> 00:21:53,355 YOU HAVE REGULATORY RELIEF. 648 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:54,123 YOU GROW THE ECONOMY. 649 00:21:54,158 --> 00:21:56,358 >> IT HAPPENED UNDER GEORGE W. 650 00:21:56,393 --> 00:21:58,460 BUSH AND THE ECONOMY WENT IN THE 651 00:21:58,495 --> 00:21:58,661 TANK. 652 00:21:58,695 --> 00:22:00,663 >> WE DID IT WITH BILL CLINTON A 653 00:22:00,697 --> 00:22:03,064 LONG TIME AGO. 654 00:22:03,099 --> 00:22:05,700 WE ALSO HAD A THING CALLED 9/11 655 00:22:05,734 --> 00:22:07,169 OCCUR BUT WE DID IT AND GREW THE 656 00:22:07,203 --> 00:22:07,735 ECONOMY. 657 00:22:07,770 --> 00:22:09,370 IT'S HOW WE BALANCE THE BUDGET 658 00:22:09,405 --> 00:22:13,275 IN THE 1990s BY REDUCING TAXES. 659 00:22:13,309 --> 00:22:18,046 TIM, IF WE WANTED TO GET OUT OF 660 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,481 HOLE, WE HAVE TO REFORM 661 00:22:20,516 --> 00:22:21,850 ENTITLEMENTS BUT THE OTHER 662 00:22:21,884 --> 00:22:23,484 LEVERAGE POINT FOR GETTING US 663 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:25,520 OUT OF HOLE HERE IS ECONOMIC 664 00:22:25,554 --> 00:22:25,753 GROWTH. 665 00:22:25,788 --> 00:22:27,455 THAT IS WHAT THIS CAMPAIGN IS 666 00:22:27,489 --> 00:22:29,357 GOING TO BE ABOUT THIS FALL. 667 00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:31,392 THAT IS THE DEBATE WITH DEBBY IS 668 00:22:31,427 --> 00:22:32,227 GOING TO BE ABOUT. 669 00:22:32,261 --> 00:22:35,763 THE FAILED POLICIES OF OBAMA AND 670 00:22:35,798 --> 00:22:37,799 STABENOW AND ALTERNATIVE VISION 671 00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:40,836 TO GET THE ECONOMY MOVING AGAIN. 672 00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:43,638 >> Tim: CASH FOR CLUNKERS? 673 00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,673 >> STUPID, DON'T DO IT. 674 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:48,743 >> Tim: WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST 675 00:22:48,777 --> 00:22:50,445 ABOUT HELPING THE AUTO INDUSTRY? 676 00:22:50,479 --> 00:22:53,514 >> IT HAS TO SUCCEED ON ITS OWN. 677 00:22:53,549 --> 00:22:55,383 THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T SUPPORT 678 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,752 ANY INDUSTRY. 679 00:22:57,786 --> 00:23:00,021 >> YOU WOULD LAW GENERAL MOTORS 680 00:23:00,056 --> 00:23:03,724 AND CHRYSLER TO GO INTO A TANK. 681 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:04,992 YOU WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO 682 00:23:05,026 --> 00:23:05,592 GO INTO THE TANK? 683 00:23:05,626 --> 00:23:07,794 >> IT WOULD NOT HAVE GONE INTO 684 00:23:07,829 --> 00:23:08,395 THE TASK. 685 00:23:08,429 --> 00:23:10,331 THEY COULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE 686 00:23:10,365 --> 00:23:11,765 REGULAR BANKRUPTCY LAWS. 687 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:13,234 BONDHOLDERS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN 688 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:14,768 BETTER SHAPE. 689 00:23:14,802 --> 00:23:16,270 UNIONS WOULD NOT BE QUITE SO 690 00:23:16,304 --> 00:23:16,470 SHAPE. 691 00:23:16,504 --> 00:23:19,940 >> SO PRESIDENT BUSH WAS TO 692 00:23:19,975 --> 00:23:21,575 WRONG TO DO THAT? 693 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:22,776 >> I BELIEVE HE WAS WRONG. 694 00:23:22,810 --> 00:23:24,644 >> I BELIEVE THE WAY YOU SAVER 695 00:23:24,679 --> 00:23:26,847 THE CAR COMPANIES YOU ALLOW A 696 00:23:26,882 --> 00:23:30,317 FAIR PROCESS BUT YOU DON'T TURN 697 00:23:30,352 --> 00:23:30,684 OVER. 698 00:23:30,718 --> 00:23:32,253 WAIT A MINUTE, TIM. 699 00:23:32,287 --> 00:23:36,290 LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THIS. 700 00:23:36,324 --> 00:23:38,558 WE TURNED OVER TWO AMERICAN 701 00:23:38,593 --> 00:23:40,160 ICONS, CHRYSLER AND GENERAL 702 00:23:40,195 --> 00:23:44,031 MOTORS, FIRST CHRYSLER WE TURNED 703 00:23:44,065 --> 00:23:45,565 IT OVER ITALIAN CAR COMPANY. 704 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,535 IT'S NOT AN AMERICAN COMPANY AND 705 00:23:48,569 --> 00:23:49,770 TURNED GENERAL MOTORS TO SPECIAL 706 00:23:49,804 --> 00:23:52,439 INTERESTS, THE UAW. 707 00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:54,708 >> Tim: IS HE WRONG FOR DOING 708 00:23:54,742 --> 00:23:55,175 WHAT HE DID? 709 00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:56,510 >> HE WAS WRONG BECAUSE IT 710 00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,279 WASN'T THE WAY, NOT JUST SAVE 711 00:23:58,313 --> 00:23:58,979 THE CAR COMPANIES. 712 00:23:59,014 --> 00:24:00,580 WE NEED TO GROW THE CAR 713 00:24:00,615 --> 00:24:01,282 COMPANIES. 714 00:24:01,316 --> 00:24:03,716 WE NEED TO EXPAND THE MARKET. 715 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:07,387 >> WAS HE WRONG, PRESIDENT BUSH. 716 00:24:07,421 --> 00:24:09,522 >> HE STARTED MONEY ROLLING INTO 717 00:24:09,556 --> 00:24:10,290 THE COMPANIES. 718 00:24:10,324 --> 00:24:13,927 >> WHAT WENT WRONG WITH 719 00:24:13,961 --> 00:24:14,193 CHRYSLER. 720 00:24:14,228 --> 00:24:15,194 >> WAS THE PRESIDENT WRONG? 721 00:24:15,229 --> 00:24:17,530 >> THEY WERE WRONG IN TERMS HOW 722 00:24:17,564 --> 00:24:18,965 THEY EXECUTED IT BECAUSE WHAT 723 00:24:18,999 --> 00:24:21,467 THEY DID THEY PUT UNIONS IN 724 00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:22,802 FAVOR OF BONDHOLDERS. 725 00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:25,138 THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH A 726 00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:26,539 TRADITIONAL BANKRUPTCY WHERE THE 727 00:24:26,573 --> 00:24:27,373 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE 728 00:24:27,408 --> 00:24:29,608 BEEN THE BANKS BACK STOP BECAUSE 729 00:24:29,643 --> 00:24:31,411 YOU COULD NOT GET GUARANTEES OUT 730 00:24:31,445 --> 00:24:33,679 OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR BANKING 731 00:24:33,713 --> 00:24:35,315 COMMUNITY TO KEEP THE COMPANIES 732 00:24:35,349 --> 00:24:35,681 RUNNING. 733 00:24:35,715 --> 00:24:37,016 >> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT 734 00:24:37,051 --> 00:24:37,917 DISCUSSION. 735 00:24:37,952 --> 00:24:39,118 WHAT YOU JUST HEARD IS REALLY 736 00:24:39,153 --> 00:24:41,421 THE DIFFERENCE IN LEADERSHIP. 737 00:24:41,455 --> 00:24:43,556 PETE IS SAYING IT WAS POORLY 738 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:45,591 EXECUTED BUT PETE PULLED THE 739 00:24:45,625 --> 00:24:46,826 TRIGGER TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN. 740 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:47,860 NUMBER ONE. 741 00:24:47,894 --> 00:24:49,595 NUMBER TWO, HE PULLED THE 742 00:24:49,629 --> 00:24:51,097 TRIGGER FOR THE SAME THING TO 743 00:24:51,131 --> 00:24:52,966 HAPPEN TO REWARD THESE WALL 744 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,334 STREET BANKS THAT WERE 745 00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:54,867 IRRESPONSIBLE. 746 00:24:54,901 --> 00:24:56,369 THE MONEY WAS OUTSOURCED AROUND 747 00:24:56,403 --> 00:24:58,137 THE WORLD. 748 00:24:58,172 --> 00:24:59,439 WE CAN SIT ALL DAY LONG 749 00:24:59,473 --> 00:25:00,273 GOVERNMENT PROGRAM WAS WELL 750 00:25:00,307 --> 00:25:00,806 MANAGED. 751 00:25:00,841 --> 00:25:01,807 TELL ME ONE THAT IS. 752 00:25:01,842 --> 00:25:03,875 >> Tim: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT 753 00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:04,142 ANALYSIS? 754 00:25:04,177 --> 00:25:07,446 >> I AM AFRAID I HAVE TO. 755 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,148 THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO HAVE IT'S 756 00:25:10,183 --> 00:25:13,618 HANDS OFF OF BUSINESS AND TREAT 757 00:25:13,652 --> 00:25:14,552 EVERYONE SIMILARLY. 758 00:25:14,587 --> 00:25:16,721 >> YOU CAN'T HAVE THE GOVERNMENT 759 00:25:16,755 --> 00:25:19,358 SUPPORTING THEM AND SAYING THEY 760 00:25:19,392 --> 00:25:20,092 SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT? 761 00:25:20,126 --> 00:25:22,160 >> THE LAWS ARE ON THE BOOKS. 762 00:25:22,195 --> 00:25:23,061 THE BANKRUPTCY LAWS OR THE 763 00:25:23,096 --> 00:25:23,661 BOOKS. 764 00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:25,530 IT COULD HAVE BEEN YEARS. 765 00:25:25,564 --> 00:25:27,866 IT WOULD HAVE WORKED MUCH BETTER 766 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:28,733 THAN IT DID. 767 00:25:28,767 --> 00:25:30,235 >> SO PRESIDENT BUSH WAS WRONG? 768 00:25:30,269 --> 00:25:31,403 >> I SHE HAD WAS WRONG. 769 00:25:31,437 --> 00:25:35,507 >> I WAS A TRUSTEE OF A 770 00:25:35,541 --> 00:25:35,940 BANKRUPTED RAILROAD. 771 00:25:35,975 --> 00:25:39,511 IT WAS A STATE OWNED ENTERPRISE. 772 00:25:39,545 --> 00:25:40,345 WE WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH 773 00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:42,381 REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND 774 00:25:42,415 --> 00:25:43,315 INDEPENDENTS WE SAVED THE 775 00:25:43,349 --> 00:25:44,016 RAILROAD. 776 00:25:44,050 --> 00:25:45,850 DIDN'T COST TAXPAYER'S MONEY. 777 00:25:45,885 --> 00:25:48,153 WE SAVED TAXPAYER MONEY. 778 00:25:48,187 --> 00:25:50,122 >> WILL YOU SUPPORT WHOEVER THE 779 00:25:50,156 --> 00:25:52,057 WINNER IF IT'S NOT YOU? 780 00:25:52,091 --> 00:25:55,627 >> MY OBJECTIVE NOVEMBER 6th. 781 00:25:55,661 --> 00:25:57,362 ELECT MITT ROMNEY AS PRESIDENT. 782 00:25:57,397 --> 00:25:59,364 ELECT 51 REPUBLICAN SENATORS 783 00:25:59,399 --> 00:26:01,266 INTO THE U.S. SENATE TO MOVE AN 784 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,866 AGENDA FORWARD. 785 00:26:02,901 --> 00:26:04,368 >> EITHER OF GEESE GUYS DEBATE 786 00:26:04,403 --> 00:26:05,569 THE NOMINATION YOU ARE ON BOARD? 787 00:26:05,603 --> 00:26:08,672 >> I AM ON BOARD. 788 00:26:08,706 --> 00:26:10,441 OKAY, GENTLEMEN. 789 00:26:10,475 --> 00:26:11,708 WE ARE OUT OF TIME. 790 00:26:11,743 --> 00:26:12,910 I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 791 00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,712 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS, GOOD 792 00:26:15,747 --> 00:26:16,747 LUCK ON TUESDAY AND WE'RE ON 793 00:26:16,781 --> 00:26:18,782 FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE AND 794 00:26:18,816 --> 00:26:19,550 TWITTER. 795 00:26:19,584 --> 00:26:21,585 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK RIGHT HERE ON 796 00:26:21,619 --> 00:26:21,985 "OFF THE RECORD". 797 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:22,153 ¶ 798 00:26:22,187 --> 00:26:32,629 ¶ 799 00:26:32,664 --> 00:27:07,530 ¶ 800 00:29:30,241 --> 00:29:33,242 Generated by CCExtractor http://ccextractor.sourceforge.net