WEBVTT 00:00.100 --> 00:00.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:2.5% ♪ 00:00.333 --> 00:03.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:2.5% ♪ 00:03.733 --> 00:06.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% WELCOME BACK, TO THIS 00:06.033 --> 00:08.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CORRESPONDENCE EDITION OF "OFF 00:08.833 --> 00:11.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE RECORD" THE LEAD STORIES A 00:11.033 --> 00:13.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% DECISION ON NICK LYON 00:13.100 --> 00:15.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MANSLAUGHTER CASE ON HOLD UNTIL 00:15.766 --> 00:17.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NEXT MONTH AND GOVERNOR ON THE 00:17.600 --> 00:20.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OTR PANEL IS CHUCK STOKES ZACH 00:20.700 --> 00:23.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GORCHOW JONATHAN OOSTING ZOE 00:23.633 --> 00:25.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CLARK SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET 00:25.766 --> 00:26.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE INSIDE OUT "OFF THE RECORD". 00:26.466 --> 00:27.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 00:27.166 --> 00:27.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 00:27.833 --> 00:28.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 00:28.500 --> 00:29.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 00:29.200 --> 00:29.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 00:29.900 --> 00:30.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 00:30.600 --> 00:31.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 00:31.300 --> 00:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 00:32.000 --> 00:32.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% GRAND RAPIDS. 00:32.400 --> 00:32.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 00:32.933 --> 00:33.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 00:33.533 --> 00:34.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 00:34.233 --> 00:34.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 00:34.933 --> 00:35.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% 1941. 00:35.200 --> 00:35.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 00:35.900 --> 00:36.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 00:36.533 --> 00:37.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% MICHIGAN SEASONS. 00:37.000 --> 00:37.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 00:37.700 --> 00:38.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% IT TAKES. 00:38.033 --> 00:59.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% HAGER FOX.COM." 00:59.933 --> 01:01.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 01:01.366 --> 01:02.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL 01:02.566 --> 01:03.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% RESOURCES. 01:03.400 --> 01:04.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WANTS 01:04.666 --> 01:06.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% TO BE A TRUSTED PARTNER IN 01:06.666 --> 01:07.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FOOD AND 01:07.766 --> 01:09.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHERE IT COMES FROM INCLUDING 01:09.566 --> 01:11.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ITS IMPACT ON OUR HEALTH AND ON 01:11.100 --> 01:12.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% OUR PLANET, LEARN MORE AT 01:12.933 --> 01:16.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% FOOD.MSU.EDU. 01:16.000 --> 01:18.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND NOW THIS EDITION OF "OFF THE 01:18.666 --> 01:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% RECORD" WITH TIM SKUBICK. 01:21.266 --> 01:23.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THANKS VERY MUCH WELCOME TO "OFF 01:23.566 --> 01:24.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE RECORD" LOTS OF NEWS THIS 01:24.366 --> 01:25.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WEEK WE HAVE NEW POLLING DATA 01:25.933 --> 01:27.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CHUCK AND THE TWO FRONTRUNNERS 01:27.733 --> 01:29.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONTINUE TO BE FRONTRUNNERS. 01:29.066 --> 01:30.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% >> NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 01:30.133 --> 01:32.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% YOU'VE GOT BILL SCHUETTE 01:32.800 --> 01:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND GRETCHEN 01:36.500 --> 01:38.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHITMER AND LEADING IN THE 40% 01:38.633 --> 01:40.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% RANGE AND THE CLOSEST PEOPLE TO 01:40.866 --> 01:42.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% THEM ARE THANEDAR ON THE 01:42.633 --> 01:44.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DEMOCRATIC SIDE AND BRIAN CALLEY 01:44.100 --> 01:45.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND ARE 01:45.833 --> 01:48.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN THE 20% RANGE SO IT'S ALMOST 01:48.000 --> 01:48.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% A 2-1. 01:48.833 --> 01:50.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% IT LOOKS REAL GOOD FOR THE 01:50.600 --> 01:52.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONVENTIONAL FRONTRUNNERS AND 01:52.200 --> 01:54.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SAYING 01:54.733 --> 01:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SHOULD BE THE TICKET COMING INTO 01:55.833 --> 01:56.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% NOVEMBER. 01:56.266 --> 01:58.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S 01:58.600 --> 01:59.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GOING TO ABSOLUTELY HAPPEN THAT 01:59.766 --> 02:00.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% WAY. 02:00.533 --> 02:02.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THERE IS POTENTIALLY SOME 02:02.900 --> 02:07.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SURPRISES AND THANEDAR AND ABDUL 02:07.200 --> 02:08.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% EL-SAYED IS WHAT YOU GOT TO 02:08.166 --> 02:09.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WATCH A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE 02:09.466 --> 02:13.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% YOU HAVE THIS ENDORSEMENT FROM 02:13.533 --> 02:15.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE BERNIE SANDERS AND IF YOU 02:15.966 --> 02:17.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GET A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE COMING 02:17.433 --> 02:18.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TO THE POLLS IT MAY TURN OUT TO 02:18.866 --> 02:20.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HELP HIM I THINK TRYING TO KNOCK 02:20.600 --> 02:22.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFF THOSE TWO WILL BE VERY VERY 02:22.100 --> 02:23.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% DIFFICULT BUT MIGHT SEE A 02:23.733 --> 02:24.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% SURPRISE. 02:24.833 --> 02:26.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> TYPICALLY NOT A POLL DENIER 02:26.300 --> 02:27.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BUT I WILL POINT OUT THE POLL 02:27.466 --> 02:30.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DID NOT HAVE ANY CELL PHONES. 02:30.133 --> 02:31.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% >> IS THAT RIGHT? 02:31.633 --> 02:32.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% APOLOGIZE ON THAT. 02:32.666 --> 02:33.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> THAT DOESN'T WATCH A LOT OF 02:33.866 --> 02:35.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% YOUNG PEOPLE AND HOW MANY KIDS 02:35.733 --> 02:38.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% UNDER 40 WHO HAVE A LANDLINE 02:38.200 --> 02:39.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% STILL AND JUST SAY WE HAVE A 02:39.400 --> 02:43.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HISTORY IN MICHIGAN OF POLLS NOT 02:43.100 --> 02:44.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% PREDICTING THE OUTCOME 02:44.166 --> 02:45.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% ACCURATELY. 02:45.733 --> 02:46.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> TWO WORDS. 02:46.700 --> 02:48.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> I WAS GOING TO SAY MARCH 8, 02:48.833 --> 02:50.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% 2016 WHEN GOING INTO THE POLLS I 02:50.766 --> 02:52.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MEAN IT LOOKED LIKE HILLARY WAS 02:52.833 --> 02:55.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% UP 20 POINTS AND ONE POLL OVER 02:55.700 --> 02:57.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SANDERS AND HERE WE ARE AND IT'S 02:57.600 --> 02:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WITHIN THAT SAME MARGIN BETWEEN 02:59.500 --> 03:01.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ABDUL EL-SAYED AND GRITTEN 03:01.300 --> 03:02.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHITMER THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM 03:02.666 --> 03:03.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND MONEY AGAIN IS ON WHITMER 03:03.900 --> 03:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BUT AGAIN THIS IS WHAT TO WATCH 03:05.533 --> 03:07.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT GOTV THE 03:07.966 --> 03:09.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% GET OUT THE VOTE EFFORT ON 03:09.833 --> 03:12.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TUESDAY, AUGUST 7TH AND IF ABDUL 03:12.733 --> 03:14.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EL-SAYED CAN GET THE FOCUS WHO 03:14.966 --> 03:16.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SEEM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT HIM 03:16.566 --> 03:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% ACTUALLY TO THE POLLS. 03:17.466 --> 03:20.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> VERY POSSIBLE THAT ABDUL 03:20.700 --> 03:23.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EL-SAYED OR THANEDAR WILL WIN 03:23.500 --> 03:25.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DETROIT AND PERHAPS EVEN WAYNE 03:25.666 --> 03:25.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% COUNTY. 03:25.966 --> 03:27.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% >> MORE THAN POSSIBLE. 03:27.233 --> 03:29.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> BUT GRETCHEN WHITMER HAS 03:29.666 --> 03:32.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% REALLY BEEN CAMPAIGNING AS OF 03:32.066 --> 03:34.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LIKE WITH MAYOR MIKE DUGGAN 03:34.200 --> 03:36.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GOING TO ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT 03:36.333 --> 03:38.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FORUMS PARTICULARLY WHERE A LOT 03:38.300 --> 03:39.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% OF SENIOR CITIZENS ARE. 03:39.533 --> 03:40.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THURSDAY EVENING THIS HALL OF 03:40.933 --> 03:43.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MONEY THAT HER CAMPAIGN HAS. 03:43.900 --> 03:46.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> SHE COULD WIN WITHOUT WINNING 03:46.466 --> 03:48.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN WAYNE COUNTY BUT IT WOULD BE 03:48.566 --> 03:49.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% BETTER IF SHE HAD IT. 03:49.633 --> 03:50.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> SHE HAS THE ORGANIZATION YOU 03:50.966 --> 03:52.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% KNOW FROM ALL THESE GROUPS THAT 03:52.800 --> 03:53.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% ARE ENDORSING HER. 03:53.700 --> 03:55.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% I THINK CHUCK IS RIGHT, IF 03:55.533 --> 03:56.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% SOMEBODY IS GOING TO OVER 03:56.766 --> 03:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% PERFORM IT WILL BE ABDUL 03:59.500 --> 04:00.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% EL-SAYED. 04:00.266 --> 04:02.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SANDERS ENDORSEMENT WILL HELP 04:02.100 --> 04:03.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SOMEWHAT AND HE HAS BEEN WAGING 04:03.633 --> 04:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A GRASS ROOTS EFFORT I MEAN YOU 04:05.533 --> 04:06.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DON'T SEE A LOT OF DOOR TO DOOR 04:06.966 --> 04:08.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WORK IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE BUT 04:08.500 --> 04:09.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF THEIR 04:09.800 --> 04:10.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% BREAD AND BUTTER. 04:10.866 --> 04:12.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> LET ME THROW THIS ON THE 04:12.200 --> 04:13.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TABLE DIDN'T HE ALREADY HAVE 04:13.866 --> 04:14.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% THOSE PEOPLE? 04:14.866 --> 04:16.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> PROBABLY, BUT HERE IS THE 04:16.200 --> 04:18.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DEAL: THAT ENDORSEMENT MATTERS 04:18.266 --> 04:19.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% NATIONALLY. 04:19.233 --> 04:19.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% ABDUL EL-SAYED IS DOING 04:19.966 --> 04:22.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SOMETHING YOU RARELY SEE IN A 04:22.233 --> 04:24.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% GUBERNATORIAL PRIMARY HE IS 04:24.033 --> 04:25.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% INVITING PEOPLE IN FROM OUT OF 04:25.300 --> 04:27.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% STATE TO HELP HIM HERE DOWN THE 04:27.266 --> 04:28.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% FINAL STRETCH. 04:28.000 --> 04:29.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% YOU SEE THAT IN PRESIDENTIAL 04:29.466 --> 04:31.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ELECTIONS BUT IN A GUBERNATORIAL 04:31.800 --> 04:32.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% PRIMARY. 04:32.833 --> 04:34.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> ARE THEY OPENING THEIR 04:34.400 --> 04:34.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% CHECKBOOKS? 04:34.966 --> 04:36.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN 04:36.833 --> 04:38.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% BERNIE SANDERS PUT OUT A 04:38.333 --> 04:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FUNDRAISING TWEET FOR ABDUL 04:39.900 --> 04:41.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% EL-SAYED YESTERDAY AND HE IS 04:41.100 --> 04:42.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% HOPING THE SORT OF NATIONAL 04:42.600 --> 04:44.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MOVEMENT WILL COME IN HERE AND 04:44.266 --> 04:46.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% SUPPLEMENT THE GROUND. 04:46.066 --> 04:47.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> NEEDS IT IN THE LAST LITTLE 04:47.466 --> 04:49.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BIT TO COME UP WITH MORE ADS 04:49.100 --> 04:51.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% BECAUSE THANEDAR HAS BEEN 04:51.566 --> 04:52.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% BEATING THEM ALL. 04:52.400 --> 04:54.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% >> HE IS EVERYWHERE. 04:54.633 --> 05:00.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> AND ABDUL EL-SAYED HAS BEEN 05:00.366 --> 05:01.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% RUNNING A LONG PERIOD OF TIME 05:01.833 --> 05:03.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND THE LAST WEEK I'VE SEEN A 05:03.700 --> 05:06.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% COUPLE DIFFERENT ADS ONE HE IS 05:06.600 --> 05:07.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% WALKING DOWN THE STREET. 05:07.666 --> 05:09.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> AN IN FLUX OF MONEY TO GET ON 05:09.666 --> 05:10.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% TELEVISION HE HAS BEEN FAR 05:10.833 --> 05:14.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BEHIND WHITMER, WHITMER IS 527 05:14.066 --> 05:15.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND THE THANEDAR CAMPAIGN AND 05:15.966 --> 05:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THE TELEVISION PRESENCE THE 05:17.466 --> 05:18.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% QUESTION IS WILL DEMOCRATIC 05:18.766 --> 05:22.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% VOTERS KNOW BERNIE SANDERS 05:22.000 --> 05:23.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ENDORSED ABDUL EL-SAYED THEY 05:23.000 --> 05:24.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET THAT 05:24.933 --> 05:26.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% MESSAGE OUT RIGHT NOW IT'S 05:26.200 --> 05:28.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% REALLY ONLY KNOWN IN A POLITICAL 05:28.433 --> 05:29.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BUBBLE THEY HAVE TO GET THE 05:29.700 --> 05:30.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MESSAGE OUT TO FOLKS AND THE 05:30.866 --> 05:32.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OTHER QUESTION IS DOES -- CAN HE 05:32.600 --> 05:34.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOLLOW THE BERNIE SANDERS PATH 05:34.600 --> 05:36.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND SANDERS LOST METRO DETROIT 05:36.733 --> 05:38.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY AND 05:38.866 --> 05:41.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% YET THIS VERY UNCONVENTIONAL 05:41.333 --> 05:48.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ROUTE DOMINATED HILLARY CLINTON 05:48.000 --> 05:50.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND THEY THINK GRETCHEN WILL BE 05:50.200 --> 05:52.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OUT OF STATE AND DOES IT MOVE 05:52.700 --> 05:54.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE NUMBERS THROUGH THE STATE 05:54.333 --> 05:57.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND CAN CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY 05:57.500 --> 06:01.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BECAUSE WHITMER IS NOT DOING 06:01.933 --> 06:02.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% THAT WELL. 06:02.533 --> 06:05.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> WITH LESS THAN THREE WEEKS TO 06:05.033 --> 06:06.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GO AND THANEDAR HAS BEEN BUYING 06:06.533 --> 06:08.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% UP EVERYTHING HE CAN WITH TV ADS 06:08.333 --> 06:09.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND MAILERS THAT ARE FLOODING 06:09.666 --> 06:12.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% PEOPLE'S MAILBOXES, HE HAS 06:12.533 --> 06:16.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% BILLBOARDS UP. 06:16.500 --> 06:18.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> BACK TO WHITMER BEING ABLE TO 06:18.433 --> 06:20.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAVE THIS THREE-WAY RACE RIGHT 06:20.100 --> 06:22.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AND WHY THERE WERE QUESTIONS 06:22.033 --> 06:24.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MONTHS AGO ABOUT WHY SHE WASN'T 06:24.633 --> 06:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% PUSHING MORE TO GET ABDUL 06:26.266 --> 06:27.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% EL-SAYED OFF THE BALLOT WHEN 06:27.200 --> 06:28.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT 06:28.266 --> 06:30.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THAT AND EVERYONE WAS LIKE NO, 06:30.433 --> 06:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OF COURSE SHE WANTS BOTH OF 06:32.000 --> 06:34.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THESE GENTLEMEN TO CONTINUE ON 06:34.000 --> 06:36.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE BALLOT TO SPLIT ANY YOU KNOW 06:36.966 --> 06:38.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ANTI-GRETCHEN VOTE AND THAT 06:38.066 --> 06:40.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MAYBE WHAT WE SEE VERY MUCH HOW 06:40.633 --> 06:42.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I MEAN REMEMBER WITH RICK SNYDER 06:42.433 --> 06:43.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AT THIS TIME YOU KNOW EIGHT 06:43.500 --> 06:45.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% YEARS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE 06:45.433 --> 06:47.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GOVERNOR MIKE COX SIMPLY BECAUSE 06:47.533 --> 06:51.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HE HAD THE MOST BUT HE ENDED UP 06:51.100 --> 06:51.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% SPLITTING THE VOTE. 06:51.900 --> 06:53.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> NOT TO GET AHEAD OF THE STORY 06:53.800 --> 06:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IF WHITMER GET THE NOMINATION 06:55.833 --> 06:58.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DOES ABDUL EL-SAYED ENDORSE HER? 06:58.800 --> 07:00.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> I THINK HE DID. 07:00.233 --> 07:02.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I BELIEVE HE DID SAY IF GRETCHEN 07:02.333 --> 07:03.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHITMER WINS THE PRIMARY I'LL 07:03.933 --> 07:05.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ENDORSE HER BECAUSE IT'S VERY 07:05.433 --> 07:06.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IMPORTANT WE ELECT A DEMOCRAT 07:06.833 --> 07:08.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHICH IS A SHOT AT THANEDAR WHO 07:08.833 --> 07:10.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HE SAID REALLY IS A REPUBLICAN 07:10.466 --> 07:12.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% IN DEMOCRATIC CLOTHING SO I 07:12.400 --> 07:13.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BELIEVE HE HAS SAID HE WOULD 07:13.666 --> 07:15.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% ENDORSE HER BUT. 07:15.000 --> 07:17.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> THERE IS AN ENDORSEMENT. 07:17.666 --> 07:19.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> ACTUALLY APPEARING NEXT TO 07:19.066 --> 07:19.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% EACH OTHER. 07:19.900 --> 07:20.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% >> YES. 07:20.633 --> 07:22.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> AND LOOK AT THERE IS A HUGE 07:22.500 --> 07:24.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LOOK WE ARE MISSING THE STORY I 07:24.000 --> 07:26.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% RAN INTO SOMEBODY WHO SITS ON 07:26.966 --> 07:28.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% STATE ESSENTIAL FOR THE 07:28.066 --> 07:29.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DEMOCRATS AND THERE HAVE BEEN 07:29.733 --> 07:30.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SHOUTING MATCHES IN THE MEETINGS 07:30.866 --> 07:34.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BETWEEN THE BERNIECRATS AND THE 07:34.700 --> 07:36.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% OTHERS SAYING PARTY UNITY 07:36.366 --> 07:37.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% REMEMBER A LOT OF BERNIE 07:37.900 --> 07:39.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SUPPORTERS WERE NOT DEMOCRATS 07:39.066 --> 07:41.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THEY VOTED FOR HIM OKAY BECAUSE 07:41.700 --> 07:42.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BUT THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY 07:42.900 --> 07:44.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DEMOCRATS, THERE IS A SPLIT IN 07:44.433 --> 07:45.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% THERE. 07:45.833 --> 07:47.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> IF ABDUL EL-SAYED FOLLOWS THE 07:47.133 --> 07:49.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BERNIE MODEL HE WILL APPEAR WITH 07:49.000 --> 07:50.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GRETCHEN WHITMER AND ENDORSE HER 07:50.400 --> 07:52.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND I DON'T THINK THE ANIMOSITY 07:52.033 --> 07:54.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IS AS LARGE AS IT WAS THIS 2016 07:54.600 --> 07:55.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY 07:55.700 --> 07:58.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BECAUSE THERE YOU HAD YOU KNOW 07:58.366 --> 08:00.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% EVIDENCE THAT THE DMC WAS 08:00.266 --> 08:01.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ACTIVELY WORKING TO SUPPORT 08:01.733 --> 08:03.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HILLARY CLINTON SO THE BERNIE 08:03.533 --> 08:05.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOLKS HAD A REAL RANKER AND 08:05.366 --> 08:07.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% JUSTIFIED ANGER OVER THAT BUT I 08:07.233 --> 08:09.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DON'T THINK WE ARE SEEING HERE. 08:09.166 --> 08:10.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> ABDUL EL-SAYED IS YOUNG AND 08:10.566 --> 08:13.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% SO TO BURN BRIDGES EARLY ON 08:13.166 --> 08:15.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WITHOUT ENDORSING, I THINK 08:15.366 --> 08:19.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DOESN'T PORTEND WHAT CAN BE A 08:19.633 --> 08:21.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BRIGHT POLITICAL FUTURE AMONG 08:21.766 --> 08:22.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% DEMOCRATS IF HE DOESN'T WIN. 08:22.966 --> 08:24.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE 08:24.766 --> 08:26.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR. 08:26.100 --> 08:27.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> I THINK WHAT THIS WILL BE 08:27.266 --> 08:29.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT'S A REAL TEST OF TWO PEOPLE 08:29.566 --> 08:31.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GRETCHEN WHITMER IN HER SKILLS 08:31.700 --> 08:34.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AS A POLITICIAN AND IT WILL ALSO 08:34.133 --> 08:36.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BE A TEST OF BRANDON DYLANN THE 08:36.933 --> 08:38.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PARTY CHAIR AND HOW DO YOU WORK 08:38.100 --> 08:39.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THIS AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING 08:39.466 --> 08:42.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THAT ABDUL EL-SAYED FEELS, OKAY, 08:42.266 --> 08:44.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THAT'S WORTH ME ENDORSING THE 08:44.633 --> 08:45.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TICKET ON BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO 08:45.666 --> 08:47.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% REMEMBER THERE IS HORRIBLE BLOOD 08:47.033 --> 08:50.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BETWEEN MAYOR MIKE DUGGAN AND 08:50.400 --> 08:51.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ABDUL EL-SAYED, THEY DO NOT LIKE 08:51.800 --> 08:55.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EACH OTHER AND ABDUL EL-SAYED ON 08:55.100 --> 08:57.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL HAS BEEN VERY 08:57.000 --> 08:58.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% VOCAL ABOUT WHEN HE WORKED WITH 08:58.866 --> 09:03.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MIKE DUGGAN AND SO DUGGAN HAS 09:03.033 --> 09:04.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ENDORSED WHITMER SO SHE HAS TO 09:04.200 --> 09:06.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FIGURE OUT HOW DO I KEEP MIKE 09:06.500 --> 09:09.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DUGGAN THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF 09:09.333 --> 09:10.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DETROIT ON MY SIDE AND NOT TICK 09:10.666 --> 09:12.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OFF ABDUL EL-SAYED THAT IS A 09:12.000 --> 09:13.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DELICATE BALANCING ACT THERE BUT 09:13.666 --> 09:15.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHAT YOU POINTED OUT MAY BE THE 09:15.533 --> 09:17.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THING, BRING YOU TO THE 09:17.366 --> 09:18.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% ADMINISTRATION YOU GOT TO 09:18.833 --> 09:19.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% PROMISE THAT. 09:19.433 --> 09:20.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> WHAT WAS THE OLD LINE. 09:20.666 --> 09:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> DUGGAN CAN SAY IF HE IS IN 09:23.200 --> 09:25.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% YOUR ADMINISTRATION I'M NOT 09:25.500 --> 09:26.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SUPPORTING YOU AND WE DON'T KNOW 09:26.933 --> 09:28.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% THAT YET. 09:28.566 --> 09:29.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> KEEP ENEMIES CLOSER. 09:29.766 --> 09:31.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> THE ACTUAL ELECTION AND IF 09:31.866 --> 09:33.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHITMER RUNS AWAY WITH IT AND 09:33.866 --> 09:35.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ABDUL EL-SAYED DOESN'T PERFORM 09:35.433 --> 09:37.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% VERY WELL BUT I DON'T THINK SHE 09:37.533 --> 09:38.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% NEEDS TO BRING HIM IN THE 09:38.900 --> 09:40.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ADMINISTRATION THAT IS A BIG 09:40.266 --> 09:41.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% STEP. 09:41.466 --> 09:42.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% >> ZACH. 09:42.900 --> 09:45.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> SUPPORTERS DON'T WANT HIM 09:45.266 --> 09:46.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% NEAR THE DEPARTMENT. 09:46.333 --> 09:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WANTS TO BE IN THE POLITICAL 09:48.266 --> 09:49.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% LIME LIGHT. 09:49.433 --> 09:51.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> BLASTED AWAY AND MADE BLUE 09:51.200 --> 09:54.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CROSS HIS PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, 09:54.733 --> 09:55.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% WHIPPING BOARD. 09:55.533 --> 09:59.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HE HAS GONE AFTER DUGGAN TO SAY 09:59.100 --> 10:00.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I'M GOING TO HAND YOU THE MOST 10:00.833 --> 10:02.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% IMPORTANT DIRECTOR IN THE 10:02.833 --> 10:04.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T KNOW, 10:04.700 --> 10:06.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THAT WOULD BE A BIG STEP. 10:06.233 --> 10:07.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> WHY DID HE SIT IN HIS CHAIR 10:07.700 --> 10:09.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEN RECALL HE SAID I THINK I 10:09.366 --> 10:12.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% MIGHT GET MIKE DUGGAN'S 10:12.733 --> 10:15.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ENDORSEMENT, IF ALL THIS WHY 10:15.400 --> 10:17.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WOULD A PERSON SIT HERE AND SAY 10:17.066 --> 10:18.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THEN IT 10:18.366 --> 10:19.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% DOESN'T COME TRUE, DO YOU 10:19.466 --> 10:20.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% REMEMBER THAT? 10:20.400 --> 10:21.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I WAS SITTING I BELIEVE IN 10:21.900 --> 10:23.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THIS EXACT SEAT INDEED. 10:23.966 --> 10:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> LIT BE A FASCINATING RACE SHE 10:26.266 --> 10:27.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% COULD LOSE DETROIT AND WIN THIS 10:27.466 --> 10:30.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THING LIKE JENNIFER GRANHOLM. 10:30.533 --> 10:31.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> SHE PROVED IT COULD BE DONE 10:31.733 --> 10:34.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BUT STILL NEEDS TO GET WORK 10:34.266 --> 10:34.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% DONE. 10:34.600 --> 10:37.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> SHE HAS THE DETROIT PROBLEM 10:37.133 --> 10:38.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% AND LOOK TAT CROSS PATHS. 10:38.966 --> 10:41.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> THE BERNIE PORN INFORMATION 10:41.233 --> 10:43.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FROM THE FREE PRESS WAS ALSO A 10:43.100 --> 10:44.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% DEAD HEAT IN THE U.S. SENATE 10:44.833 --> 10:48.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% RACE ALTHOUGH NBC THE JAMES 10:48.300 --> 10:51.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PEOPLE SAY HE HAS A SEVEN POINT 10:51.033 --> 10:54.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LEAD WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? 10:54.100 --> 10:56.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> NBC WE WOULD NOT MENTION PLUS 10:56.633 --> 10:59.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OR EIGHT MARGIN OF ERROR AND NOT 10:59.166 --> 11:00.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WORTH THE PAPER IT'S WRITTEN ON. 11:00.500 --> 11:01.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> SO IT'S A DEAD HEAT. 11:01.733 --> 11:02.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> YEAH AND I THINK THAT IS SORT 11:02.866 --> 11:03.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OF WHAT WE FELT LIKE FOR THE 11:03.966 --> 11:05.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PAST FEW WEEKS AND WE TALK ABOUT 11:05.466 --> 11:06.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IT AFTER THE SHOW AFTER THEY HAD 11:06.600 --> 11:09.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% THEIR DEBATE. 11:09.066 --> 11:10.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO 11:10.633 --> 11:12.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% THE WIRE FOR THESE TWO 11:12.233 --> 11:13.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CANDIDATES AND I THINK AS WE 11:13.700 --> 11:15.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BEFORE 11:15.066 --> 11:16.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NEITHER ONE IS RUNNING AWAY WITH 11:16.300 --> 11:16.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% IT. 11:16.966 --> 11:19.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BUT ALSO I MEAN I THINK IT'S 11:19.166 --> 11:21.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% JUST AGAIN PORTEND FOR ANOTHER 11:21.900 --> 11:25.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DEBBIE STABENOW KIND OF KNOCK 11:25.033 --> 11:26.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OUT AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE 11:26.466 --> 11:27.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BEFORE AND THE FACT THAT NOT ONE 11:27.866 --> 11:29.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OF THEM IS GAINING TRACTION 11:29.300 --> 11:30.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WITHIN THE PARTY AT THIS POINT 11:30.900 --> 11:33.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND THAT IT MIGHT JUST BECOME AN 11:33.333 --> 11:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ANTI-DEBBIE STABENOW NOVEMBER 11:36.666 --> 11:37.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ELECTION I SEE HEROINING THE 11:37.866 --> 11:39.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SEAT THE WAY THAT THIS PRIMARY 11:39.700 --> 11:41.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% IS LOOKING BETWEEN THE TWO. 11:41.300 --> 11:43.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> BRIAN CALLEY CALLED IN TO 11:43.200 --> 11:44.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COMPLAIN ABOUT BILL SCHUETTE NOT 11:44.833 --> 11:47.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% BEING ON DUTY TAKE A LOOK. 11:47.633 --> 11:48.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> MORE APPROPRIATE THAN 11:48.966 --> 11:50.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SCHUETTE ON DUTY WOULD BE BILL 11:50.833 --> 11:52.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% SCHUETTE OFF DUTY. 11:52.900 --> 11:54.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> BRIAN CALLEY IS LYING AND 11:54.233 --> 11:54.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% DESPERATE. 11:54.866 --> 11:55.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> Reporter: CANDIDATE FOR 11:55.633 --> 11:57.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GOVERNOR BRIAN CALLEYLY PAID 11:57.300 --> 11:59.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% 2500 TO OBTAIN THESE PAPERS THE 11:59.666 --> 12:01.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICIAL OFFICE SCHEDULE OF HIS 12:01.466 --> 12:02.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% OPPONENT BILL SCHUETTE AND 12:02.866 --> 12:04.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MR. CALLEY ALLEGES THERE ARE 12:04.900 --> 12:07.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MORE EMPTY PAGES OVER THE LAST 7 12:07.033 --> 12:09.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% YEARS ON THE CALENDAR AND ONLY 12:09.500 --> 12:12.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% 104 DAYS WHEN MR. SCHUETTE 12:12.000 --> 12:13.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ALLEGEDLY WORKED AN EIGHT HOUR 12:13.366 --> 12:14.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% DAY OR MORE. 12:14.033 --> 12:16.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MR. CALLEY CONTENDS MR. SCHUETTE 12:16.133 --> 12:17.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAS WORKED MORE ON HIS POLITICAL 12:17.900 --> 12:19.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AGENDA THAN FOR THE PEOPLE. 12:19.033 --> 12:20.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> I DON'T DOUBT THERE IS A 12:20.133 --> 12:21.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SEPARATE POLITICAL SCHEDULE AND 12:21.400 --> 12:22.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I EXPECT THAT'S WHERE MOST OF 12:22.966 --> 12:24.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% HIS ACTIVITIES LIE. 12:24.033 --> 12:26.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I THINK THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. 12:26.166 --> 12:28.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I CAN'T IMAGINE ANOTHER PUBLIC 12:28.900 --> 12:31.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICIAL HAVING A WORK SCHEDULE 12:31.900 --> 12:32.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% THIS BLANK. 12:32.866 --> 12:34.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Reporter: BUT A SCHUETTE 12:34.266 --> 12:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CAMPAIGN OPERATIVE COUNTERS HE 12:35.666 --> 12:37.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% HAS WORKED IN THE ATTORNEY 12:37.566 --> 12:38.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% GENERAL'S OFFICE AND. 12:38.100 --> 12:39.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF 12:39.400 --> 12:40.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CRISIS THAT COME UP THAT DON'T 12:40.900 --> 12:41.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% NECESSARILY MAKE IT IN A 12:41.800 --> 12:42.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% CALENDAR. 12:42.333 --> 12:43.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Reporter: COUNTER ATTACK 12:43.000 --> 12:48.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% MR. SAND RICTORS GOING TO 12:48.033 --> 12:51.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HARVARD AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE. 12:51.400 --> 12:54.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> HE WENT TO HARVARD ON THE 12:54.133 --> 12:55.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% TAXPAYER DIME. 12:55.266 --> 12:55.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Reporter: HE DOESN'T KNOW 12:55.933 --> 12:57.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HOW MUCH TIME HE WAS IN BOSTON 12:57.533 --> 12:58.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% BUT ADDS THIS. 12:58.433 --> 12:59.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP 12:59.466 --> 13:00.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND MOST WAS REMOTELY AND DID 13:00.800 --> 13:02.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NOT REQUIRE ME TO BE PHYSICALLY 13:02.466 --> 13:03.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% ON CAMPUS. 13:03.100 --> 13:03.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> Reporter: MR. CALLEY 13:03.900 --> 13:05.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PROMISES TO RELEASE HIS SCHEDULE 13:05.833 --> 13:06.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% BEFORE THE ELECTION AND 13:06.966 --> 13:08.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REASSURES TAXPAYERS HE HAS BEEN 13:08.633 --> 13:10.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WORKING AT LEAST 40 HOURS A WEEK 13:10.733 --> 13:11.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ON STATE BUSINESS AND THE REST 13:11.966 --> 13:20.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OF THE TIME RUNNING FOR OFFICE. 13:20.400 --> 13:21.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% JONATHAN DID THIS MOVE THE 13:21.866 --> 13:22.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% NEEDLE? 13:22.300 --> 13:23.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> I THINK THE ARGUMENT DOES 13:23.533 --> 13:25.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% TOO. 13:25.066 --> 13:27.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% STU SAID IT THERE AND I'M 13:27.033 --> 13:28.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SURPRISED SCHUETTE'S OFFICE DID 13:28.800 --> 13:31.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% NOT COME OUT AND SAY IN THIS 13:31.066 --> 13:32.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EVERYTHING YOU DO ON YOUR JOB IS 13:32.466 --> 13:33.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NOT CONTAINED ON A CALENDAR I 13:33.900 --> 13:35.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD 13:35.133 --> 13:36.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% RECOGNIZE THAT AND OF COURSE IT 13:36.833 --> 13:38.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ALLOWED THE SCHUETTE CAMPAIGN TO 13:38.133 --> 13:40.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BRING BACK UP THE HARVARD ATTACK 13:40.133 --> 13:41.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% AS WELL. 13:41.033 --> 13:43.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SO YOU KNOW I THINK IT WAS THE 13:43.266 --> 13:45.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BEST HE COULD DO WITH WHAT HE 13:45.033 --> 13:47.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SPENT ON THIS 2500 HE HAD TO 13:47.266 --> 13:48.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% TAKE A SHOT AT IT. 13:48.833 --> 13:50.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> CALLEY SAID SOMETHING THAT IS 13:50.166 --> 13:51.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% INTERESTING IN TERMS ON WHEN HE 13:51.433 --> 13:52.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GOT THE DEGREE FROM HARVARD HE 13:52.900 --> 13:54.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% SAID MOST OF IT WAS DONE 13:54.400 --> 13:55.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% REMOTELY WHICH GOES TO YOUR 13:55.800 --> 13:57.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% POINT SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO WITH 13:57.100 --> 13:59.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OUR JOBS NOW AND THE TECHNOLOGY 13:59.333 --> 14:01.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WE DO IT IN THE CAR, WE DO IT 14:01.466 --> 14:02.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% REMOTELY, WE DO IT FROM OUR 14:02.766 --> 14:04.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COMPUTERS, SO YOU CAN EASILY 14:04.833 --> 14:08.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MAKE THE CASE ON EITHER SIDE YOU 14:08.200 --> 14:09.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ARE DOING YOUR JOB BUT YOU 14:09.500 --> 14:10.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AREN'T NECESSARILY IN YOUR 14:10.600 --> 14:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OFFICE, AT YOUR DESK WHEN YOU'RE 14:13.033 --> 14:14.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% STILL DOING THE WORK OF THE 14:14.000 --> 14:14.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% PEOPLE. 14:14.633 --> 14:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NOW SO IT'S HARD TO GET TO THOSE 14:17.466 --> 14:20.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% FIGURES IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WAS 14:20.466 --> 14:21.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% DONE AND WHAT WASN'T. 14:21.866 --> 14:23.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> A STRONGER ARGUMENT IF BRIAN 14:23.633 --> 14:24.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CALLEY HAD RELEASED HIS SCHEDULE 14:24.966 --> 14:25.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% TOO. 14:25.233 --> 14:27.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WHAT IF HE HAD RELEASED HIS 14:27.066 --> 14:28.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SCHEDULE AND SHOWED IT AND HAVE 14:28.900 --> 14:30.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BEEN IN OFFICE THE SAME EIGHT 14:30.233 --> 14:31.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% YEARS AND COMPARED WEEK TO WEEK 14:31.700 --> 14:33.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LOOK AT THIS I HAD MEETINGS ALL 14:33.766 --> 14:35.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DAY HERE IN THIS THIS AND THIS 14:35.866 --> 14:37.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AND BILL SCHUETTE THERE IS 14:37.100 --> 14:38.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% NOTHING. 14:38.466 --> 14:39.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION 14:39.600 --> 14:43.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% SAYING THAT HE -- 14:43.600 --> 14:45.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> HE SAID HE WOULD RELEASE A 14:45.000 --> 14:45.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% SUMMARY. 14:45.466 --> 14:46.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> BECAUSE HE SAID THEY WOULD 14:46.566 --> 14:48.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ALSO MEAN RELEASING IT FROM 14:48.066 --> 14:49.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL BECAUSE 14:49.700 --> 14:51.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEY WERE IN EXECUTIVE BRANCH 14:51.433 --> 14:52.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% WHICH IS KIND OF DODGING. 14:52.933 --> 14:54.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> THE DIFFERENCE IS BILL 14:54.133 --> 14:55.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SCHUETTE AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 14:55.933 --> 14:57.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IS SUBJECT TO THE FREEDOM OF 14:57.166 --> 14:58.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% INFORMATION ACT THAT IS HOW 14:58.433 --> 14:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BRIAN CALLEY GOT THE SCHEDULE 14:59.500 --> 15:00.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BRIAN CALLEY IS PART OF THE 15:00.733 --> 15:02.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT AND HE 15:02.566 --> 15:04.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DOESN'T HAVE TO RELEASE IT AND 15:04.266 --> 15:05.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HE'S NOT GOING TO AND SAYS HE 15:05.566 --> 15:07.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WILL RELEASE STATS AND THAT IS 15:07.900 --> 15:09.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NOT THE SAME AND WOULD HAVE BEEN 15:09.166 --> 15:11.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MORE POWERFUL THE VISUAL IF HE 15:11.733 --> 15:14.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% RELEASED HIS SCHEDULE TOO. 15:14.400 --> 15:16.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> THERE IS SOMETHING COMICAL 15:16.100 --> 15:18.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WITH INFIGHTING BETWEEN SNYDER 15:18.200 --> 15:20.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND SCHUETTE THERE IS SOMEONE IN 15:20.666 --> 15:22.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE SNYDER ADMINISTRATION SAYING 15:22.533 --> 15:23.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SCHUETTE IS NOT WORKING HARD 15:23.533 --> 15:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ENOUGH MOST FOLKS SAY HE IS 15:26.266 --> 15:27.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DOING PLENTY YOU TAKE MORE TIME 15:27.666 --> 15:29.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% FOR YOURSELF. 15:29.100 --> 15:30.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% STOP WORKING. 15:30.366 --> 15:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> A SECOND CALENDAR IS THERE A 15:32.000 --> 15:33.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% POLITICAL BILL SCHUETTE 15:33.200 --> 15:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% CALENDAR? 15:34.766 --> 15:36.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> YES, OF COURSE. 15:36.600 --> 15:39.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> WOULD YOU ASSUME, THAT IS THE 15:39.200 --> 15:40.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% ONE WE WANT TO SEE. 15:40.433 --> 15:42.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> BREAKFAST AND COFFEE POURS 15:42.066 --> 15:43.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% WEREN'T MENTIONED ON THE 15:43.333 --> 15:44.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% SCHEDULE. 15:44.433 --> 15:45.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> OBVIOUSLY BUT THIS AGAIN GOES 15:45.533 --> 15:46.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BACK TO THIS IDEA THAT SCHUETTE 15:46.800 --> 15:48.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUT THERE, 15:48.300 --> 15:50.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% RIGHT, HE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL, 15:50.133 --> 15:55.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HIS KNOWN QUANTITY AMONG VOTERS, 15:55.800 --> 15:56.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% FOLKS KNOW WHO HE IS. 15:56.966 --> 15:59.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IF THIS WAS SOME SORT OF SHADY 15:59.433 --> 16:00.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CHARACTER THAT WASN'T AROUND 16:00.300 --> 16:02.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE WHO IS OUR 16:02.000 --> 16:03.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ATTORNEY GENERAL, LET FOLKS KNOW 16:03.900 --> 16:06.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHO HE IS AND I DON'T THINK THAT 16:06.133 --> 16:07.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NARRATIVE THAT HE IS NOT WORKING 16:07.200 --> 16:09.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OR ISN'T AROUND QUITE WORKS FOR 16:09.866 --> 16:11.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SOMEONE LIKE BILL SCHUETTE IT 16:11.700 --> 16:13.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% MAY WORK FOR A DIFFERENT 16:13.966 --> 16:15.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CANDIDATE BUT THERE ARE PRESS 16:15.300 --> 16:17.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% RELEASES CONSTANTLY AND 16:17.766 --> 16:18.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERVIEWED AND TAKING STANDS ON 16:18.866 --> 16:20.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% LOTS OF NATIONAL ISSUES. 16:20.200 --> 16:21.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% >> WHAT I THOUGHT WAS 16:21.166 --> 16:22.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERESTING IN THE SCHEDULE THAT 16:22.466 --> 16:24.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HASN'T COME UP MUCH YET BUT THAT 16:24.766 --> 16:26.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IT SHOWS SCHUETTE AND SNYDER 16:26.200 --> 16:28.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HAVEN'T TALKED IN SEVERAL YEARS 16:28.300 --> 16:30.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AT LEAST NOT A SCHEDULED CALL 16:30.166 --> 16:32.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND THEY DID OFTEN EARLY IN THE 16:32.666 --> 16:33.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ADMINISTRATION SO IT GOES TO 16:33.566 --> 16:35.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAT ADMINISTRATION FREEZE 16:35.100 --> 16:37.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BETWEEN SCHUETTE AND SNYDER AS 16:37.266 --> 16:38.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% WELL. 16:38.133 --> 16:39.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> AND COME THE GENERAL 16:39.600 --> 16:41.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHICHEVER ONE COMES OUT ON TOP 16:41.400 --> 16:42.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE THIS IS 16:42.500 --> 16:44.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MORE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO BE 16:44.666 --> 16:46.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ABLE TO USE AGAINST THEM WHICH 16:46.000 --> 16:48.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THEY ALREADY DOING AND SAY 16:48.400 --> 16:49.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO 16:49.566 --> 16:51.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BELIEVE IT SHOWS THAT NEITHER 16:51.466 --> 16:53.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ONE OF THEM WERE WORKING AS HARD 16:53.266 --> 16:54.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE 16:54.300 --> 16:55.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PEOPLE AND THAT'S THE REASON YOU 16:55.500 --> 16:58.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GOT IT THE WAY YOU HAVE AND ALL 16:58.700 --> 17:00.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE OTHER PROBLEMS WE TALKED 17:00.066 --> 17:01.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% ABOUT. 17:01.500 --> 17:02.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> RECOGNIZING EITHER OF YOU 17:02.500 --> 17:05.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% HAVE BEEN DOING YOUR JOB. 17:05.766 --> 17:07.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% >> HE IS LIKE, YEAH. 17:07.700 --> 17:09.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> REMEMBER LAST YEAR EVERYBODY 17:09.333 --> 17:10.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WAS WAITING WHEN IS BRIAN CALLEY 17:10.933 --> 17:12.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GOING TO ANNOUNCE FOR GOVERNOR 17:12.366 --> 17:13.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DEMOCRATS WERE CROSSING HOPING 17:13.833 --> 17:16.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND PRAYING BRIAN CALLEY WOULD 17:16.033 --> 17:17.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GET IN THE RACE FOR THIS EXACT 17:17.266 --> 17:19.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REASON IT HAS BEEN SUCH A NASTY 17:19.733 --> 17:21.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% VICIOUS RACE AND UNDER SCORES 17:21.100 --> 17:22.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CALLEY IS BEHIND AND PROBABLY 17:22.466 --> 17:24.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% BEHIND BY A LOT. 17:24.100 --> 17:25.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SCHUETTE IS AHEAD AND TRYING TO 17:25.633 --> 17:27.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% TAKE A SHOT HE HAS TO TRY 17:27.133 --> 17:28.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SOMETHING TO MOVE THIS YOU KNOW 17:28.833 --> 17:30.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT 17:30.466 --> 17:31.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ONE IS GOING TO LAND HARD. 17:31.733 --> 17:33.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THE BIG POLITICAL QUESTION OF 17:33.766 --> 17:35.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% COURSE IS IF SCHUETTE DOES WIN 17:35.833 --> 17:39.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE PRIMARY DOES SNYDER GO OUT 17:39.033 --> 17:40.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% AND CAMPAIGN WITH HIM? 17:40.033 --> 17:43.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DO WE SEE YOU KNOW THE SITTING 17:43.000 --> 17:44.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% GOVERNOR WITH HIM. 17:44.700 --> 17:46.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> IF I HEARD MR. CALLEY'S 17:46.100 --> 17:47.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ANSWER CORRECT HE SAID HE WOULD 17:47.500 --> 17:49.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ENDORSE MR. SCHUETTE DID I HEAR 17:49.800 --> 17:50.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% THAT CORRECTLY? 17:50.933 --> 17:52.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> HE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THE 17:52.700 --> 17:54.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WORDS FOR FEAR OF THE HEAD LIEN 17:54.133 --> 17:55.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BUT HE SAID HE THINKS ALL THE 17:55.600 --> 17:56.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% REPUBLICANS ARE BETTER THAN 17:56.633 --> 17:58.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DEMOCRATS EVEN THE REPUBLICAN HE 17:58.666 --> 18:00.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IS ACCUSED OF BREAKING THE LAW. 18:00.200 --> 18:01.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% >> YES. 18:01.400 --> 18:03.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> AND POLITICIZING EVERYTHING 18:03.466 --> 18:04.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT MOVES NOW TO YOUR QUESTION 18:04.833 --> 18:06.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHAT DOES MR. SNYDER DO, DOES HE 18:06.933 --> 18:08.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GO UP TO THE COTTAGE FOR THE 18:08.733 --> 18:09.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% REST OF THE CAMPAIGN? 18:09.866 --> 18:12.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OR DOES HE HELP BILL SCHUETTE 18:12.833 --> 18:14.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% GET ELECTED? 18:14.233 --> 18:16.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I THINK HE IS A PARTY GUY AND 18:16.066 --> 18:18.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I THINK HE WILL ULTIMATELY GO 18:18.400 --> 18:20.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOR IT IF PUSHED BUT HE MAY DO 18:20.300 --> 18:22.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IT IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T HELP 18:22.066 --> 18:24.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% HIM, WAITS TO THE VERY LAST 18:24.100 --> 18:27.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SECOND AND GO ALL THE WAY DOWN 18:27.166 --> 18:30.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE LINE AND NOT IN A BOLD WAY 18:30.933 --> 18:32.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PROBABLY YOU WON'T SEE HIM IN AN 18:32.500 --> 18:33.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% AD. 18:33.066 --> 18:34.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> DINNER WITH THE FIRST LADY HE 18:34.466 --> 18:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SAYS I SUPPORT BILL SCHUETTE AND 18:36.666 --> 18:37.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IT WON'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN 18:37.900 --> 18:39.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% THAT. 18:39.133 --> 18:40.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> PUBLICALLY ONCE AND RICK 18:40.266 --> 18:41.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SNYDER DOESN'T LIKE CAMPAIGNING 18:41.566 --> 18:44.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND HE HAS ONLY DONE A HANDFUL 18:44.200 --> 18:44.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% OF SPOTS. 18:44.966 --> 18:47.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% [ LAUGHTER ] 18:47.766 --> 18:49.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% FOR A GUY HE DOESN'T LIKE. 18:49.433 --> 18:50.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> IT WILL BE A BETTER FILL. 18:50.600 --> 18:52.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THERE IS A LOT OF ANIMOSITY HAS 18:52.300 --> 18:57.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BEEN DISCUSSED AT NAUSEUM BUT AS 18:57.133 --> 18:58.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% JONATHAN SAID YES I'M GOING TO 18:58.666 --> 18:59.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SUPPORT BILL SCHUETTE IT WILL 18:59.933 --> 19:00.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% PROBABLY BE IN A WRITTEN 19:00.866 --> 19:02.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% STATEMENT AND IT WILL NOT BE IN 19:02.933 --> 19:04.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PUBLIC BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT 19:04.633 --> 19:06.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% TO GET ASKED A BUNCH OF 19:06.433 --> 19:07.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND THAT WILL 19:07.333 --> 19:07.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% BE IT. 19:07.900 --> 19:09.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> FRIDAY AFTERNOON AT 6:00. 19:09.266 --> 19:09.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% >> YEAH. 19:09.600 --> 19:11.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> AFTER WE ARE ALL HOME. 19:11.500 --> 19:13.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ALL RIGHT SO WE HAD THE NICK 19:13.066 --> 19:14.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LYON DECISION PENDING IN COURT 19:14.566 --> 19:15.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THIS WEEK AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN 19:15.933 --> 19:19.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE THE 19:19.133 --> 19:20.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% STORY AND GET IN THE LEGAL 19:20.500 --> 19:21.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ARGUMENTS HERE BECAUSE THIS IS 19:21.566 --> 19:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NOT PERRY MASON BUT POLITICAL 19:23.666 --> 19:25.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IMPLICATIONS IS THIS GOOD FOR 19:25.100 --> 19:26.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BILL SCHUETTE THAT THIS DECISION 19:26.533 --> 19:27.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% HAS BEEN DELAYED? 19:27.633 --> 19:29.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> WELL SO IT'S BEEN DELAYED I 19:29.200 --> 19:30.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MEAN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 19:30.366 --> 19:32.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AUGUST 7TH PRIMARY NOT UNTIL 19:32.466 --> 19:33.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% AUGUST 20TH. 19:33.700 --> 19:35.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> SO NOT A FACTOR OR IS IT A 19:35.266 --> 19:35.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% FACTOR. 19:35.633 --> 19:37.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> THAT IS EXACTLY THE ISSUE 19:37.066 --> 19:38.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY 19:38.566 --> 19:41.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BECOME A FACTOR HAD IT BEEN A 19:41.033 --> 19:42.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DECISION IF THERE WAS A TRIAL OR 19:42.200 --> 19:44.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NOT AND AGAIN I THINK FOR SOME 19:44.366 --> 19:46.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% VOTERS THERE'S JUST CONFUSION 19:46.966 --> 19:48.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ABOUT WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS 19:48.366 --> 19:49.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BECAUSE SOME OF THESE TRIALS 19:49.433 --> 19:52.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG. 19:52.700 --> 19:54.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> OR NOT TO HAVE IT DELAYED? 19:54.266 --> 19:55.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> I THINK IT'S A PUSH FOR 19:55.433 --> 19:55.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% SCHUETTE. 19:55.766 --> 19:57.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IF IT HAD BEEN BOUND OVER FOR 19:57.033 --> 20:00.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% TRIAL, IF THE STATE THE 20:00.066 --> 20:02.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR BOUND OVER 20:02.033 --> 20:05.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR TRIAL MANSLAUGHTER IN THE 20:05.733 --> 20:07.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% FLINT WATER CRISIS A WIN FOR 20:07.200 --> 20:08.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SCHUETTE AND REJECTED IT WOULD 20:08.233 --> 20:09.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BE A LOSS AND THE FACT THE JUDGE 20:09.733 --> 20:11.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DIDN'T JUST MAKE A RULING ISN'T 20:11.900 --> 20:14.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% GREAT BUT SUGGESTS HE IS 20:14.333 --> 20:15.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ACTUALLY ON THE FENCE HERE EVEN 20:15.900 --> 20:17.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THOUGH THE STANDARD OF EVIDENCE 20:17.400 --> 20:18.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOR BINDING SOMETHING OVER FOR 20:18.900 --> 20:21.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TRIAL IS A FAIRLY LOW BAR IT 20:21.133 --> 20:22.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SHOULD IF THE EVIDENCE IS THERE 20:22.133 --> 20:25.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% BE A PRETTY QUICK AND EASY 20:25.300 --> 20:26.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DECISION SO IT'S NOT GREAT FOR 20:26.933 --> 20:27.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% SCHUETTE. 20:27.400 --> 20:28.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> DID BRIAN CALLEY HAVE A 20:28.600 --> 20:30.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COMMERCIAL IN THE CAN ON NOT 20:30.266 --> 20:32.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BEING BOUND OVER HITTING BILL 20:32.200 --> 20:35.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SCHUETTE AND WASTING TAXPAYERS 20:35.166 --> 20:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% MONEY ZACH GORCHOW. 20:36.500 --> 20:38.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> HE WAS ABSOLUTELY PREPARED TO 20:38.600 --> 20:40.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% POUNCE HAD THIS NOT BEEN BOUND 20:40.400 --> 20:41.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OVER YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN ADS 20:41.933 --> 20:44.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ABOUT 20 MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN, 20:44.633 --> 20:46.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THIS IS A POLITICAL CHARGE AND 20:46.300 --> 20:47.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LOOK THE JUDGE AGREED AND THREW 20:47.900 --> 20:51.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IT OUT SO CALLEY HE NEEDED THIS 20:51.433 --> 20:54.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TO GET KICKED THE JUDGE NOT TO 20:54.466 --> 20:55.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BIND IT OVER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 20:55.900 --> 20:57.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% A LIFELINE FOR HIM. 20:57.133 --> 20:58.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY IT, 20:58.433 --> 20:59.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THIS WAS SOMETHING -- IT WAS 20:59.933 --> 21:01.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MORE ABOUT CALLEY THAN IT IS 21:01.666 --> 21:02.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% ABOUT SCHUETTE. 21:02.833 --> 21:03.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> I THINK IT'S A PLUS FOR 21:03.833 --> 21:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% MR. SCHUETTE THAT IT WAS 21:05.533 --> 21:05.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% DELAYED. 21:05.866 --> 21:07.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% I DO. 21:07.000 --> 21:09.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT 21:09.033 --> 21:11.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% MR. CALLEY SAID ABOUT THIS. 21:11.500 --> 21:13.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR NICK 21:13.200 --> 21:15.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LYON'S LIFE WILL REMAIN ON HOLD 21:15.000 --> 21:17.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AS HE AWAITS HIS FATE AT THE 21:17.400 --> 21:19.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HANDS OF A GENESEE COUNTY JUDGE 21:19.966 --> 21:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHAT 21:23.200 --> 21:25.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DOES IT MEAN BETWEEN CALLEY AND 21:25.766 --> 21:27.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ATTORNEY GENERAL SCHUETTE AT 21:27.133 --> 21:28.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ODDS OF THE PROSECUTION OF 21:28.233 --> 21:30.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MR. LYON THE HIGHEST RANKING 21:30.700 --> 21:31.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% OFFICIAL IN THE SNYDER 21:31.833 --> 21:32.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% ADMINISTRATION. 21:32.266 --> 21:33.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> IT'S A POLITICAL SHOW TRIAL. 21:33.633 --> 21:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Reporter: MR. CALLEY ARGUES 21:34.500 --> 21:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EVEN IF MR. LYON IS BOUND OVER 21:36.500 --> 21:37.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% FOR TRIAL HE CONTENDS 21:37.766 --> 21:39.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% MR. SCHUETTE IS USING THIS 21:39.300 --> 21:41.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PROSECUTION TO ADVANCE HIS BID 21:41.000 --> 21:41.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% FOR GOVERNOR. 21:41.933 --> 21:43.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% MR. SCHUETTE CONTENDS HE IS 21:43.966 --> 21:45.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DOING IT TO DELIVER JUSTICE FOR 21:45.500 --> 21:47.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE AND 21:47.533 --> 21:49.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE COST OF JUSTICE CAN BE HIGH. 21:49.300 --> 21:51.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BUT MR. CALLEY ARGUES IT'S TOO 21:51.433 --> 21:54.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HIGH AND A WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS. 21:54.200 --> 21:55.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T WIN THIS 21:55.566 --> 21:56.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% TRIAL. 21:56.233 --> 21:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> ARE YOU PREPARED TO SAY 21:57.833 --> 21:59.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MR. SCHUETTE WASTED TAX DOLLARS 21:59.933 --> 22:01.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% ON THIS PRELIMINARY EXAM? 22:01.933 --> 22:03.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> I'M PREPARED TO SAY THAT 22:03.366 --> 22:03.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% RIGHT NOW. 22:03.933 --> 22:04.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% >> SAY IT. 22:04.433 --> 22:05.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> THESE ARE POLITICAL SHOW 22:05.766 --> 22:08.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TRIALS AND HE HAS WASTED TENS OF 22:08.033 --> 22:09.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF THE 22:09.366 --> 22:10.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% TAXPAYER RESOURCES. 22:10.733 --> 22:12.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Reporter: MR. SCHUETTE'S 22:12.066 --> 22:13.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% POLITICAL OPERATIVE COUNTERS 22:13.566 --> 22:14.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% HOWEVER THE REASON THE 22:14.500 --> 22:16.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PROSECUTION COST IS SO HIGH IS 22:16.200 --> 22:18.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% THAT MR. LYON DEMANDED A 22:18.133 --> 22:21.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% PRELIMINARY EXAM RATHER THAN 22:21.100 --> 22:22.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WAIVING THAT RIGHT THEREFORE THE 22:22.133 --> 22:23.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% COST HAS GONE UP. 22:23.266 --> 22:24.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE COST IS HIGH BECAUSE THE 22:24.566 --> 22:26.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COST OF THE DEFENSE IS HIGH. 22:26.666 --> 22:28.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% MOST TIMES PEOPLE WAIVE A 22:28.033 --> 22:29.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% PRELIMINARY EXAM, THE COST OF 22:29.600 --> 22:32.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE DEFENSE IS SKY ROCKETING 22:32.266 --> 22:32.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% HIGH. 22:32.700 --> 22:34.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THE TRIAL 22:34.166 --> 22:35.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% JUST WAIVE THE PRELIMINARY EXAM. 22:35.900 --> 22:36.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Reporter: SO AS THEY HEAD 22:36.800 --> 22:38.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% DOWN THE HOME STRETCH TO THE 22:38.233 --> 22:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AUGUST 7TH PRIMARY IT IS A 22:39.900 --> 22:42.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CAMPAIGN ISSUE AS MR. SCHUETTE 22:42.133 --> 22:44.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND CALLEY CONTINUE TO DEBATE 22:44.133 --> 22:50.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WHETHER TAX MONEY IS BEING 22:50.533 --> 22:53.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WASTED ON THIS PROSECUTION. 22:53.966 --> 22:56.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> NOT LIKE IF IT HAD BOUND 22:56.700 --> 22:57.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% OVER. 22:57.100 --> 22:58.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THE JUDGE TOOK THE SAFE ROUTE 22:58.833 --> 23:01.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN TERMS OF DEPOLITICIZING THIS 23:01.100 --> 23:02.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND BACK IT 23:02.466 --> 23:04.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% UP TO AUGUST THE 20TH THEREFORE 23:04.700 --> 23:06.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOUR NAME IS NOT IN THE HEADLINE 23:06.800 --> 23:09.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EVERY WEEK TRYING TO WEIGH IN 23:09.300 --> 23:11.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, DECISION 23:11.033 --> 23:12.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COMES OUT ON THE 20TH AND PLENTY 23:12.966 --> 23:14.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OF TIME BETWEEN THEN AND THE 23:14.333 --> 23:15.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GENERAL ELECTION FOR EVERYBODY 23:15.400 --> 23:17.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH IT. 23:17.333 --> 23:18.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> HE THOUGHT THAT SCHUETTE WAS 23:18.533 --> 23:19.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TRYING TO STRETCH THIS OUT, TO 23:19.733 --> 23:21.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GET THE WIN RIGHT BEFORE THE 23:21.033 --> 23:22.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% PRIMARY. 23:22.266 --> 23:24.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOU KNOW I HAVE NOT COVERED THIS 23:24.300 --> 23:25.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CASE A LOT BUT I WAS THERE THIS 23:25.900 --> 23:28.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WEEK AND I THINK WHAT WE SAW IS 23:28.166 --> 23:31.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% JUDGE GOGGINS LIKE TO TAKE HIS 23:31.066 --> 23:33.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% TIME PERIOD AND NOT AN 23:33.166 --> 23:34.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% INTERVENTIONIST HE ALLOWED THE 23:34.366 --> 23:37.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FORMER SOLICITING GENERAL JOHN 23:37.266 --> 23:40.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND TODD FLOOD TO ARGUE IT OUT 23:40.000 --> 23:41.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BACK AND FORTH WITHOUT SAYING A 23:41.433 --> 23:42.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% WORD. 23:42.600 --> 23:45.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HE SEEMS A LITTLE PASSIVE IN HIS 23:45.266 --> 23:47.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% DECISION TO DELAY HIS RULING 23:47.533 --> 23:50.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHETHER THIS IS BOUND OVER SEEMS 23:50.100 --> 23:51.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% CONSISTENT WITH IT. 23:51.200 --> 23:52.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> ZACH WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF IT? 23:52.966 --> 23:54.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> IT SEEMED LIKE THIS WAS GOING 23:54.400 --> 23:55.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% TO BE THE DAY. 23:55.933 --> 23:58.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN ORDER JULY 25 IT WAS DECIDED 23:58.366 --> 24:00.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% THEN HE PUNTED IT. 24:00.033 --> 24:02.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% IT JUST SEEMS LIKE HE IS 24:02.133 --> 24:03.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONFLICTED, UNSURE, YOU WOULD 24:03.666 --> 24:05.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THINK I JUST THOUGHT AFTER EIGHT 24:05.800 --> 24:07.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% MONTHS OF HEARING THEY HAD 24:07.800 --> 24:09.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% CLOSING ARGUMENTS THEN HE 24:09.200 --> 24:12.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% INVITES UNEXPECTEDLY MORE 24:12.000 --> 24:13.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CLOSING ARGUMENTS AND REBUTTAL 24:13.700 --> 24:15.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND MORE REBUTTAL AND FEELS LIKE 24:15.566 --> 24:17.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% A JUDGE WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO 24:17.000 --> 24:18.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% DO. 24:18.233 --> 24:19.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> SOMEBODY DESCRIBED HIM AS 24:19.866 --> 24:20.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% OVERWHELMED. 24:20.766 --> 24:22.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% >> SEEMS A FAIR 24:22.233 --> 24:22.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% CHARACTERIZATION. 24:22.800 --> 24:25.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> A BIG CASE WITH HUGE 24:25.066 --> 24:26.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IMPLICATIONS I WAS SITTING THERE 24:26.066 --> 24:27.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EARLIER IN COURT AND A LOT OF 24:27.033 --> 24:28.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE STUFF THAT COMES THROUGH IS 24:28.533 --> 24:31.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% YOU KNOW PAROLE VIOLATIONS. 24:31.900 --> 24:34.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> RUBBER STAMP NEXT, NEXT, 24:34.066 --> 24:35.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% NEXT. 24:35.000 --> 24:36.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PLUS YOU DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T 24:36.533 --> 24:38.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WANT TO MAKE ALLEGATIONS BUT I 24:38.766 --> 24:40.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WOULD ASSUME THERE IS LOCAL 24:40.100 --> 24:41.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% PRESSURE FOR HIM TO DELIVER 24:41.366 --> 24:43.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MR. LYON INTO A TRIAL BY SOME 24:43.733 --> 24:46.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LOCAL FOLKS IN GENESEE COUNTY. 24:46.833 --> 24:48.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% >> NOT NECESSARILY. 24:48.733 --> 24:52.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WELL THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HIM 24:52.733 --> 24:54.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IT'S NOT THE CITY OF FLINT IT'S 24:54.566 --> 24:57.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THE GENESEE COUNTY IF IT'S 24:57.100 --> 24:58.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SOMEBODY WHO RELIED ON THE CITY 24:58.666 --> 25:00.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF FLINT TO BE ELECTED I THINK 25:00.000 --> 25:00.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF 25:00.766 --> 25:02.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PRESSURE, HOW THE OUTER PARTS OF 25:02.400 --> 25:04.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE COUNTY FEEL IS PROBABLY LESS 25:04.533 --> 25:04.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% CLEARCUT. 25:04.933 --> 25:08.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> THERE WERE FOLKS OF THE 25:08.000 --> 25:09.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SNYDER ADMINISTRATION IN THE 25:09.366 --> 25:12.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COURTROOM WHO LOOKED TO HAVE 25:12.066 --> 25:13.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% LYON'S BACK THIS IDEA WE ARE 25:13.500 --> 25:15.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WITH YOU, WE ARE STANDING ALONG 25:15.033 --> 25:16.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WITH YOU IN THE COURTROOM. 25:16.866 --> 25:18.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> CLEARLY THIS IS A HUGE CASE 25:18.933 --> 25:20.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AND IT IS GETTING NOT JUST 25:20.700 --> 25:22.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NATIONAL ATTENTION IT'S GETTING 25:22.533 --> 25:23.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION AND YOU 25:23.966 --> 25:26.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% DON'T WANT TO MAKE A WRONG 25:26.166 --> 25:27.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DECISION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR 25:27.600 --> 25:29.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FORM AND YOU ALSO WANT TO THINK 25:29.100 --> 25:30.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ABOUT WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN 25:30.900 --> 25:32.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS 25:32.033 --> 25:33.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GOING TO BE WHAT THE APPEALS 25:33.766 --> 25:35.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% COULD POSSIBLY BE. 25:35.133 --> 25:37.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> FOR FUTURE CASES IS THE 25:37.566 --> 25:38.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. 25:38.800 --> 25:40.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> ALL RIGHT GUYS THANKS 25:40.066 --> 25:41.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% APPRECIATE IT GOOD SHOW 25:41.266 --> 25:42.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EVERYBODY TAKE THE WEEKEND OFF 25:42.833 --> 25:43.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% HEY. 25:43.400 --> 25:44.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% [ LAUGHTER ] 25:44.866 --> 25:45.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% YOU JINXED IT. 25:45.266 --> 25:45.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 25:45.966 --> 25:46.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 25:46.633 --> 25:47.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 25:47.300 --> 25:47.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 25:47.966 --> 25:48.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 25:48.666 --> 25:49.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 25:49.366 --> 25:50.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 25:50.066 --> 25:50.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 25:50.766 --> 25:51.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% GRAND RAPIDS. 25:51.166 --> 25:51.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 25:51.700 --> 25:52.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 25:52.300 --> 25:52.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 25:52.966 --> 25:53.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 25:53.666 --> 25:53.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% 1941. 25:53.933 --> 25:54.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 25:54.633 --> 25:55.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 25:55.300 --> 25:55.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% MICHIGAN SEASONS. 25:55.766 --> 25:56.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 25:56.466 --> 25:56.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% IT TAKES. 25:56.800 --> 26:21.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% HAGER FOX.COM." 26:21.100 --> 26:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 26:23.200 --> 26:24.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL 26:24.466 --> 26:25.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% RESOURCES. 26:25.666 --> 26:26.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY WANTS 26:26.833 --> 26:28.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% TO BE A TRUSTED PARTNER IN 26:28.800 --> 26:29.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FOOD AND 26:29.766 --> 26:31.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHERE IT COMES FROM INCLUDING 26:31.700 --> 26:33.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ITS IMPACT ON OUR HEALTH AND ON 26:33.400 --> 26:35.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% OUR PLANET LEARN MORE AT 26:35.766 --> 26:39.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOOD.MSU.EDU FOR MORE "OFF THE 26:39.166 --> 26:42.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% RECORD" VISIT WKAR.ORG MICHIGAN 26:42.100 --> 26:44.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PUBLIC TELEVISION STATIONS HAVE 26:44.266 --> 26:45.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONTRIBUTED TO THE PRODUCTION 26:45.400 --> 26:48.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% COSTS OF "OFF THE RECORD" WITH 26:48.133 --> 26:49.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% TIM SKUBICK. 26:49.100 --> 26:50.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:2.5% ♪