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BACK TO OFF THE RECORD.

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THIS BUDGET STORY, WHOA,

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GOODNESS GRACIOUS I NEED TO TAKE

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A PILL HERE WHAT HAPPENED THIS

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WEEK BETH?

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>> YESTERDAY THEY LOOKED LIKE

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OF PEOPLE WERE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT

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IT AND THEN THEY WALKED IT BACK

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SUPPLEMENTALS READY TO GO.

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BUT THE ISSUE THAT SEEMS TO BE

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HOLDING THINGS UP IS SENATE

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GOVERNOR WHITMER TO SIGN A LAW

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THAT WOULD RESTRAINT HER

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AUTHORITY TO USE A STATE

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GOVERNOR WHITMER DOESN'T WANT TO

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SIGN THAT LAW SO THAT IS KIND OF

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THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

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>> CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR.

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>> CONTINUING TO BE CLOSE BUT NO

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CIGAR ONE STATE SENATOR THIS

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WEEK SAID LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN

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BECAUSE ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS

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THE PARTICIPATION TROPHY, THE

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PARTICIPATION BADGE WE HAVE

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THIS WEEK REMINDED ME OF THREE

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CHILDREN IN A FAMILY LIKE THE

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TWO KIDS ALWAYS AGAINST THE ONE

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RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LEE CHATFIELD

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GRETCHEN WHITMER SEEMING TO HAVE

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A PLAN SENATE MAJORITY LEADER

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SORT OF SAYING NO, NO, NO, WAIT

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AND NOW THE HOUSE HAS SCHEDULED

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ANOTHER DAY NEXT WEEK WAS MEANT

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TO GO ON YOU KNOW THE DEER

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HUNTING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO

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>> SO MR. SHIRKEY'S DECISION TO

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PUT THIS ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THIS

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ISSUE WAS THAT A POLICY

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STATEMENT OR A POLITICAL

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>> WELL, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT

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THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER WOULD

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LIKE TO GET A POUND OF FLESH OUT

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OF THE GOVERNOR THIS WHOLE

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EPISODE WHERE SHE GOES ON A VETO

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SPREE OF SOME 900 SOME ODD

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DOLLARS AND MAKE A RARE MOVE

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TRANSFER 600 MILLION DOLLARS

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HE WANTS HER TO APOLOGIZE FOR

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AND RESCIND THESE CUTS AND AT

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THE SAME TIME TRY TO PREVENT IT

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FROM HAPPENING AGAIN NEXT YEAR

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SO HE WANTS AT LEAST THE VERY

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LEAST SOME TYPE OF ENFORCE

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LANSING THIS WEEK.

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>> BOILERPLATE NOW THE DIALS ARE

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CLICKING.

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>> BREAK THE LANSING DOWN FOR

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PEOPLE AND BASICALLY THEY WANT

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TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MAKE

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BILLS HAVE THE MEANING OF LAW SO

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THEY NEED TO CHANGE A STATUTE

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OVER HERE IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

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>> THE CRUX OF THIS IS HE WILL

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NOT DO A HANDSHAKE WITH THIS

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GOVERNOR IS THAT A FAIR

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STATEMENT?

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>> YES AND WE HAD AMBER MCCANN

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COME OUT THIS WEEK BECAUSE THIS

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GOVERNOR IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY

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THOSE ARE SOME FIGHTING WORDS

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THE UNWILLINGNESS EVEN IF YOU DO

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IT IN PUBLIC AND EVEN IF SHE

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MAKES A STATEMENT HAND TO GOD

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THAT LIKE THEY ARE STILL NOT

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GOING TO AGREE AND THAT THEY

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WANT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HOLD

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UP IN COURT BASICALLY.

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>> AND THE MAJORITY LEADER SAYS

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THIS YOU KNOW LITERALLY HOURS

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AFTER LEE CHATFIELD THE HOUSE

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SPEAKER CUTS A DEAL, CHATFIELD

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WANTS TO CUT DEALS IT'S PRETTY

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CLEAR IN ALL THIS.

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>> HE WENT INTO HER OFFICE ALONE

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AND THE TWO OF THEM CAME UP WITH

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THIS DEAL.

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>> WELL THURSDAY MORNING AGAIN

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SHE CAME OUT, SPOKE TO

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REPORTERS, SAID YOU KNOW LOOKING

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LIKE THERE IS A DEAL UNLESS

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SOMETHING YOU KNOW WRONG HAPPENS

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AND WELL SOMETHING WRONG

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HAPPENED.

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>> THE SOMETHING WAS NEVER IN

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THE ROOM.

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>> WELL EXACTLY.

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>> OKAY THE SOMETHING THE

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MAJORITY I'M NOT LOOK YOU CAN'T

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GET INSIDE THIS GUY'S HEAD BUT

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WE ALL KNOW POLITICS HE WASN'T

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IN THERE, WAS NOT PARTY TO THE

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DEAL SO IS HE GOING TO ROLLOVER

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AND NOT MAKE A STATEMENT HERE?

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WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON

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HERE?

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>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE

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A LOT OF PROMISES AT THE

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BEGINNING OF TERM THAT THIS

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WOULDN'T BECOME WASHINGTON EVEN

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THOUGH WE HAD DIVIDED GOVERNMENT

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AND I MEAN THIS MAX STRONGLY OF

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WASHINGTON D.C. AT THIS POINT.

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AND I THINK WE ARE RISKING KIND

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OF BECOMING LIKE WHITE NOISE FOR

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PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO PAY

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ATTENTION BUT CAN'T FALLEN

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FORCIBLE BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE OR

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THIS ODD STATE ADMINISTRATIVE

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BOARD TRANSFER.

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SO I DON'T KNOW.

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I THINK IF THEY ARE TRYING TO

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MAKE A POLITICAL STATEMENT IT'S

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GETTING A LITTLE LOST IN THE

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WEEDS HERE.

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>> WHAT IS GETTING LOST IS THE

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THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AT

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RISK, THEY ARE NOW PAWNS IN THIS

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GAME AND BOTH THE GOVERNOR AND

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THE MAJORITY LEADER SOME WOULD

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SAY HAVE USED THEM AS PAWNS, THE

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GET THE REPUBLICANS AT THE TABLE

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TO BARGAIN NOW MR. SHIRKEY IS

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USING THEM AS PAWNS TO GET HER

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TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.

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>> THEY THINK THATTED THEY

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WEATHERED THE STORM AND SIX

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WEEKS OF CUTS AND THE WAY THE

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STATE DISTRIBUTES MONEY IN THIS

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1.5 BILLION IT TAKES A WHILE TO

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FEED OUT SOME OF THE PAYMENTS

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DON'T HAPPEN UNTIL DECEMBER AND

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WHEN COLLEGES STOPPED GETTING

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THE PRIVATE COLLEGES STOPPED

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GETTING THEIR PAYMENTS FOR THE

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TUITION ASSISTANCE FOR MIDDLE

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AND LOW INCOME STUDENTS GOING TO

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HOPE COLLEGE AND SUCH YOU KNOW

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THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START

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HEARING ABOUT IT AND NOW THE

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LEGISLATORS ARE GOING HOME, THE

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HOUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE

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TECHNICAL SESSIONS SCHEDULED FOR

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NEXT WEEK THEY ARE NOT COMING

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BACK.

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JUST WATCH AND THIS IS AND

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PEOPLE HAVE TRIPS PLANNED,

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VACATIONS, THEY AIN'T COMING

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BACK UNTIL DECEMBER SO NOW THIS

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IS GOING TO GO ON FOR ANOTHER

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THREE WEEKS AND SET IN AND THE

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PAIN WILL BE FELT MORE.

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>> THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN

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CHECKBOOK YOU GET YOUR PAYCHECK

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YOU DON'T WRITE ALL YOUR BILLS

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WHETHER IT'S LIKE TO CABLE OR TO

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HEAT OR WHATEVER ALL ON ONE DAY.

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AND SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO

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WATCH OVER THESE NEXT FEW WEEKS

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EXACTLY AS YOU SAID AND THERE IS

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A PLETHORA OF ORGANIZATIONS

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WHETHER IT'S FOSTER CARE WHETHER

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IT'S AUTISM THAT HAS FOLKS

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SUPPORT, RIGHT, IN THE COMMUNITY

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THAT IF YOU POLLED RIGHT NOW AND

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SAID DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS

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MONEY SHOULD BE CUT AND HERE IS

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I WANT TO PICK UP WHAT BETH WHAT

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YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT D.C., THIS

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IS A PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE

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BROUGHT ON TO THEMSELVES.

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WE ARE NOT IN THE OUT OF 2000

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WHERE THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE

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MONEY.

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THEY ARE NOT DEALING WITH A

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NATURAL DISASTER OR GOD FOR BID

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AN OIL SPILL OR SOMETHING LIKE

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THIS.

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THIS IS A PROBLEM AND THIS IS

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DRAMA THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT

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TOGETHER BY LAWMAKERS

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THEMSELVES.

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THIS IS NOT BEING DONE TO THEM.

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>> WILL THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE

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PLAY THIS CARD AND NOW MAKE

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MR. SHIRKEY THE BAD GUY WHO IS

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NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR HOLDING UP

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THE GIVING BACK OF THIS MONEY?

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>> I MEAN, I THINK THEY WILL

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PLAY THE CARD WHETHER IT'S

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SUCCESSFULLY PLAYED I'M NOT

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SURE.

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I MEAN, IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THE

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PARENTS WHOSE KID IS GOING TO A

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PRIVATE COLLEGE AND GETTING

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MICHIGAN TUITION GRANT AND ALL

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THE SUDDEN IT DISAPPEARED WHO

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THEY HOLD RESPONSIBLE IS WHAT

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EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PAYING

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ATTENTION TO AND AT THIS POINT I

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THINK THEY WILL LOOK AT WHO CUT

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THE FUNDING.

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>> WELL, THAT IS WHAT THE

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REPUBLICANS WILL SAY LOOK AT

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GOVERNOR YOU STARTED THIS MESS,

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YOU PUT THIS INTO PLAY, OKAY,

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I'M JUST STANDING UP FOR WHAT I

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BELIEVE IN AND WILL BE

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MR. SHIRKEY'S RESPONSE.

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>> AT THE END OF THE DAY WHO

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KNOWS WHO MR. SHIRKEY IS SENATE

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MAJORITY LEADER BUT HIS NAME IS

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NOT ON THE MASS HEAD OF THE

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STATE BASICALLY.

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GOVERNOR GRETCHEN WHITMER IS AND

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I WAS TALKING TO PEOPLE

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YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS MIKE

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BUCHARD THE OAKLAND COUNTY

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SHERIFF HE SAID WHITMER IS

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HOLDING US HOSTAGE.

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HOLDING AND OVER THE LOST

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PAYMENTS FOR ROAD PATROL AND FOR

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THE JAIL AND I TALKED TO A

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PROVIDER WHO RUNS FOSTER CARE

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AND SHE SAYS BASICALLY THE SAME

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THING I MEAN SHE PUTS THE BLAME

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BACK THEN SO THE GOVERNOR'S

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OFFICE THINKS THEY WEATHERED THE

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STORM, THE STORM HAS NOT PASSED.

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AND BUT AT THE SAME TIME SHIRKEY

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THIS IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO A

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GAME TIME DECISION FOR HIM HE IS

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GETTING PRESSURE FROM MEMBERS,

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THEY ARE HEARING IT FROM ALL

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CORNERS AND THAT WAS PART OF THE

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STRATEGY OF THE GOVERNOR'S VETO

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IS THEY WERE VERY MUCH TARGETED

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AT OUT OF STATE REPUBLICANS.

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>> LET'S ALSO THROW INTO THE MIX

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THE POSSIBILITY THAT MR. SHIRKEY

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IS THINKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR

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GOVERNOR.

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OKAY HE HAS NOT SAID THAT, HE

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WAS ASKED ON THE ISLAND HAVE YOU

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BEEN APPROACHED AND HE SAID I

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WILL NOT LIE SO HE HAS BEEN

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APPROACHED BUT IF YOU THROW THAT

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INTO THE MIX TOO HE IS SUBJECT

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TO THE CRITICISM RIGHTLY OR

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WRONGLY THIS IS A SET UP TO MAKE

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THE GOVERNOR LOOK BAD.

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>> WHAT WOULD SHIRKEY CALL

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HIMSELF THEN MY OWN GOVERNOR, ME

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GOVERNOR.

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>> CAREFUL YOU WILL GET INTO

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TROUBLE ON THAT.

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ALL RIGHT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE

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ELECTION WHAT WAS THE LEAD STORY

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OUT OF THAT?

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>> LET ME ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION

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ONCE.

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THE MARIJUANA VOTES AROUND THE

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STATE.

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>> WE HAVE OVER HALF DOZEN

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COMMUNITIES THAT SAID WE DON'T

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WANT THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

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>> JOINING 1300S WHO SAID THE

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SAME THING.

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>> YEAH, I MEAN WE HAVE FREED

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THE WEED TO QUOTE COLEMAN YOUNG

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THE SECOND BUT THERE IS GOING TO

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BE RESTRICTIONS TO THIS IN SOME

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COMMUNITIES ARE JUST NOT GOING

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TO STAND FOR IT AND, YOU KNOW,

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THOSE COMMUNITIES MAY LOSE OUT

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ON THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OF

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THE JOBS AND THE STORE FRONTS

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AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT

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WILL BE FILLED WITH THESE WITH

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THIS NEW INDUSTRY.

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>> WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?

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>> REMINDS ME A LITTLE OPPOSITE

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OF LAWMAKERS LIKE WHEN VOTERS

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VOTE FOR THEIR LOCAL CONGRESS

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FOLKS BUT EVERYONE ELSE IN D.C.

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IS AWFUL, RIGHT, IT REMINDS ME A

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LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE WANT FOLKS

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TO SMOKE LEGAL MARIJUANA WE JUST

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DON'T WANT THEM TO DO IT CLOSE

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TO US, RIGHT?

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AND WHAT ARE FOLKS SCARED OF THE

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SAME POINTS THAT WERE MADE LAST

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YEAR WHEN THE BALLOT PROPOSAL

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RIGHT CLOSE TO SCHOOLS, KIDS

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GETTING INTO IT, IT BREEDS

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CRIME, GATE WAY DRUG ALL THE

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THINGS WE HAVE HEARD SO I DON'T

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THINK IT'S SHOCKING THEY WENT

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DOWN BUT LOOK MARIJUANA IS LEGAL

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IN MICHIGAN AND IT'S ONE MORE

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INDICATION THAT THIS ODD PATCH

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WORK SINCE 2008 WHEN YOU KNOW

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THE LEGALIZATION OF MEDICAL

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MARIJUANA HAPPENED THAT THIS

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STATE IS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE

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OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.

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>> YEAH AND I THINK THERE IS

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THAT IDEA OF NOT IN MY OWN

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BACKYARD RIGHT THAT A LOT OF

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PEOPLE THEY MAY HAVE VOTED FOR

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IT IN NOVEMBER BUT WHEN IT CAME

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TO THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY THEY

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DIDN'T WANT IT THERE.

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>> EXACTLY.

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>> AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS

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WILL THERE BE ENOUGH LOCATIONS

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WITH COMMERCIAL SALES THAT IT

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WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO

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PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THIS AND I

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DON'T THINK THAT IS A CONCERN AT

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ALL.

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I THINK THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF

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PLACES.

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>> ALTHOUGH SOMEBODY WHISPERED

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IN MY EAR IN PENNSYLVANIA THEY

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HAVE NOT SOLD ALL THEIR LICENSES

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THERE WILL LICENSES FOR

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MARIJUANA AND PEOPLE ARE NOT

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GOBBLING THEM UP LIKE THEY

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THOUGHT THEY WOULD AND STILL A

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BOAT LOAD OF MONEY TO BE MADE

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HERE.

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>> YES.

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>> DISTRIBUTION, GROWTH, SALE,

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THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

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>> A BIG STORY OUT OF THE

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ELECTION ON TUESDAY WAS THE

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SCHOOL BONDS UP AND DOWN THE

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BALLOT.

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THEY SEEM TO.

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>> THIS IS GOING TO COST YOU

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LIVENGOOD.

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>> WE TALKED ABOUT ANN ARBOR

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VOTERS PASSED A BILLION AND IT'S

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SIGNIFICANT AND STATEMENT TO

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LEGISLATURES IN THIS TOWN WHEN

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THEY ARE TRYING TO EVALUATE

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WHETHER THEY WANT TO GET IN THE

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WEEDS ON EDUCATIONAL REFORM

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THERE IS PLENTY OF VOTER SUPPORT

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OUT THERE FOR MAKING SCHOOLS

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BETTER.

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>> DON'T YOU THINK CHAD THIS

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GOES EXACTLY BACK TO THE

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WILLINGNESS TO VOTE FOR THINGS

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THAT ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

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>> EXACTLY.

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>> THIS YOUR COMMUNITY.

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>> THERE IS NO TAX FREE OUT

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THERE OR IN MICHIGAN.

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>> NOT LOCALLY IT WAS 75 OR 80%

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OF THESE THAT PASSED BUT THEN

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STATEWIDE IT'S LIKE NO MONEY FOR

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ROADS BUT ROAD MILLAGES

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STATEWIDE YOU KNOW INCREASE IN

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EDUCATION BUT LOCALLY IT IS.

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AND THE ANN ARBOR, ONE BILLION

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DOLLARS IT'S LIKE THE SECOND

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LARGEST IN HISTORY ONLY TO

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DETROIT WAS INDICATIVE I THINK

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OF PEOPLE GOING, OKAY, THE STATE

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AIN'T GOING TO MAKE EDUCATION

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GREAT WE ARE GOING TO STEP UP IN

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OUR COMMUNITIES AND VOTE FOR IT.

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>> WHICH IS THEN COUNTER TO THE

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WHOLE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND PROPOSAL

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A WHICH WAS TO CLOSE THE GAP

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BETWEEN THE HAVE AND HAVE NOT

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AND THIS GAP JUST GOT BIGGER.

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>> IT WILL.

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THE IMPROVEMENTS TO ANN ARBOR IS

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MADE TO SCHOOLS AND PUT SOLAR

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PANELS ON TOP OF EVERY BUILDING

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SO THEY CAN OFF SET THE CARBON

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FOOT PRINT OF THE AIR

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CONDITIONING THEY ARE GOING TO

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ADD AND HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN

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EVERY BUILDING, I MEAN YOU

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WOULDN'T FIND A QUARTER OF THE

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SCHOOL BUILDINGS IN THE STATE

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HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AND KIND

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OF ADDS TO THE ADDITIONAL

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ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS A SYSTEM

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OF SEPARATE AND UNEQUAL

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EDUCATION IN MICHIGAN.

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>> YEAH.

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>> LET'S CALL IN THE NEW MAYOR

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OF FLINT SHELDON NEELY.

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FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE

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SHELDON NEELY WAS ELECTED MAYOR

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OF FLINT AND LEADS THE MICHIGAN

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HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS FINAL

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TERM CHAIR OF THE BLACK CAUCUS

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FORMER MEMBER OF THE FLINT CITY

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COUNCIL FOR NINE YEARS A UNION

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PRESIDENT AND BROADCAST

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ENGINEER, HE HOLDS DEGREES FROM

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DELTA COLLEGE AND SAGINAW STATE

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UNIVERSITY.

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MR. MAYOR ELECT CONGRATULATIONS,

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SIR.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

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>> YOU HAVING FUN?

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>> IT'S BEEN BUSY.

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>> HOW MANY HOURS SLEEP HAVE YOU

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HAD?

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>> FOUR SINCE THE ELECTION.

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>> THAT IS AN EXCUSE FOR WHAT IS

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ABOUT TO FOLLOW.

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WE WILL SEE.

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>> SO WE SAID MAYOR ELECT BUT

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YOUR OPPONENT THE CURRENT

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SITTING MAYOR KAREN WEAVER HAS

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NOT ACTUALLY I'M ASSUMING MADE A

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CALL TO YOU YET TO SAY THE JOB

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IS YOURS, FILL US IN ON WHERE

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THINGS STAND WITH WHETHER OR NOT

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MAYOR WEAVER WILL CONCEDE AND

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WHEN YOU MAY TAKE OVER YOUR JOB.

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>> WELL WE TAKE OVER MONDAY,

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IT'S GOING TO BE SWEARING IN SO

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I RESIGNED MY POSITION AS A

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STATE LEGISLATURE 11:59 A.M.

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MONDAY MORNING AND SWEAR IN

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ABOUT 12:00 NOON PURSUANT TO THE

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CHARTER OF THE CITY OF FLINT.

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WHETHER OR NOT KAREN WEAVER

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ACQUIESCES TO WHAT THE VOTERS

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SAID ON NOVEMBER 6TH IS

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IRRELEVANT TO ME.

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YOU KNOW I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD

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YOU KNOW WITH THE SENSE OF UNITY

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AND OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES THAT

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AND HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER

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WHETHER YOU ARE BLACK, WHITE,

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RICH OR POOR WE HAVE TO ALL COME

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TOGETHER TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT

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AND I WAS HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC

516
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SHE WOULD GIVE A PHONE CALL BUT

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IF SHE DOESN'T WE ARE STILL

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MOVING FORWARD.

519
00:15:09,433 --> 00:15:10,733
>> QUITE A FEW PRESIDENTIAL

520
00:15:10,733 --> 00:15:11,833
CANDIDATES HAVE CALLED YOU, WHAT

521
00:15:11,833 --> 00:15:13,666
DO YOU THINK THAT TELLS YOU

522
00:15:13,666 --> 00:15:16,566
ABOUT THE CITY OF FLINT AND SORT

523
00:15:16,566 --> 00:15:18,066
OF THE WHOLE NARRATIVE

524
00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:20,800
NATIONWIDE THAT A BUNCH OF

525
00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,800
DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING YOU

526
00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,933
LOOKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT?

527
00:15:22,933 --> 00:15:24,800
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE POST OF

528
00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,333
THE STATE AND THE POST OF OUR

529
00:15:26,333 --> 00:15:28,433
NATION REALLY SPEAKS TO

530
00:15:28,433 --> 00:15:29,533
COMMUNITIES THAT IS UNDER SERVED

531
00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:31,566
OR UNDER VALUED AND FLINT HAS

532
00:15:31,566 --> 00:15:32,733
REPRESENTED THAT YOU KNOW

533
00:15:32,733 --> 00:15:33,700
UNFORTUNATELY.

534
00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,100
WE ARE NOT A COMMUNITY OF

535
00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:35,633
VICTIMS.

536
00:15:35,633 --> 00:15:38,133
I REPRESENTED A COMMUNITY OF

537
00:15:38,133 --> 00:15:40,533
CHAMPIONS AND VICTORS AND SO I

538
00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:41,633
THINK THEY TIED INTO THAT AND

539
00:15:41,633 --> 00:15:42,933
THAT SPIRIT OF HOPE THAT IS

540
00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:44,300
GOING TO BE INSERTED BACK IN THE

541
00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:45,366
BODY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND I

542
00:15:45,366 --> 00:15:47,300
THINK THEY WANT TO TAP IN AND

543
00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:48,900
USE ME AS AN IV FOR WHAT IS

544
00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:51,633
GOING TO BE PURSUANT OR GOING TO

545
00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:53,333
BE COMING FOR THEM IN AN UP

546
00:15:53,333 --> 00:15:54,266
COMING YEAR.

547
00:15:54,266 --> 00:15:55,500
>> ARE YOU SUPPORTING ANYBODY AT

548
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:56,233
THIS POINT?

549
00:15:56,233 --> 00:15:56,866
>> NO.

550
00:15:56,866 --> 00:15:58,866
I'VE BEEN I WAS SUPPORTING

551
00:15:58,866 --> 00:16:00,533
SHELDON NEELY FOR THE LAST EIGHT

552
00:16:00,533 --> 00:16:02,433
MONTHS SO THAT HAS BEEN A JOB ON

553
00:16:02,433 --> 00:16:03,666
TO ITSELF BUT MY WIFE WILL TELL

554
00:16:03,666 --> 00:16:06,233
ME YOU KNOW SHE SAID I'VE BEEN

555
00:16:06,233 --> 00:16:08,233
YOUR BIGGEST SUPPORTER AND THAT

556
00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:11,166
IS A GREAT THING AND HAS BEEN MY

557
00:16:11,166 --> 00:16:13,166
GREATEST AND BIGGEST SUPPORTER.

558
00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:14,533
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN THE

559
00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:16,300
ATTORNEY GENERAL CANCELLED THE

560
00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:18,133
CASES OF PEOPLE WITH CHARGES

561
00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:19,666
AGAINST THEM IN THE FLINT WATER

562
00:16:19,666 --> 00:16:21,033
CRISIS?

563
00:16:21,033 --> 00:16:22,266
>> FRUSTRATION, I'M STILL A

564
00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:23,433
RESIDENT MY FAMILY IS THERE.

565
00:16:23,433 --> 00:16:24,933
>> WAS IT A BAD CALL?

566
00:16:24,933 --> 00:16:26,300
>> I WOULD NOT SAY IT'S A BAD

567
00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:27,766
CALL BUT THE ONLY CALL LEFT.

568
00:16:27,766 --> 00:16:30,533
>> WHY DID IT FRUSTRATE YOU?

569
00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:31,866
>> 36 MILLION OR SO WENT TO THE

570
00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,933
PROSECUTION WITH TODAY FLOOD

571
00:16:34,933 --> 00:16:37,866
LEADING THE CASE AND BILL

572
00:16:37,866 --> 00:16:39,666
SCHUETTE SUPERVISED THE WHOLE

573
00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:40,800
EFFORT AND CALLED FOR THE

574
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,233
INVESTIGATION AND FRUSTRATION

575
00:16:42,233 --> 00:16:44,966
BECAUSE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS WAS

576
00:16:44,966 --> 00:16:46,866
LOST NOT ONLY THE STATE OF FLINT

577
00:16:46,866 --> 00:16:48,366
BUT MICHIGAN AND WHEN YOU WASTE

578
00:16:48,366 --> 00:16:49,800
RESOURCES AND HAVE TO HAVE

579
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,533
SOMEWHAT OF A RESTART OR A

580
00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:52,666
REFOCUS IT'S A FRUSTRATING

581
00:16:52,666 --> 00:16:53,500
THOUGHT.

582
00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,233
>> DO YOU AGREE THAT IT NEEDED A

583
00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:55,866
REFOCUS?

584
00:16:55,866 --> 00:16:58,333
>> WELL, I'M NOT A LAWYER, YOU

585
00:16:58,333 --> 00:16:59,733
AND I WENT TO THE SAME LAW

586
00:16:59,733 --> 00:17:02,833
SCHOOL RIGHT AND SO I CAN'T

587
00:17:02,833 --> 00:17:04,366
SECOND GUESS THEIR LEGAL

588
00:17:04,366 --> 00:17:05,433
OPINIONS ON WHAT NEEDED TO

589
00:17:05,433 --> 00:17:06,266
HAPPEN.

590
00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:09,166
BUT I TRUST ATTORNEY GENERAL

591
00:17:09,166 --> 00:17:11,600
DANA NESSEL TO MOVE THIS CASE

592
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,733
FORWARD AND I'M OPTIMISTIC SHE

593
00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,100
WILL BRING THOSE WHOSE

594
00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:17,833
CRIMINALLY CULPABLE TO JUSTICE.

595
00:17:17,833 --> 00:17:19,366
>> WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO SEE

596
00:17:19,366 --> 00:17:20,833
HAPPEN GOING FORWARD WITH THOSE

597
00:17:20,833 --> 00:17:21,233
CHANGES?

598
00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:23,066
AND WHAT INFLUENCE, IF ANY, DO

599
00:17:23,066 --> 00:17:30,066
YOU HAVE AS MAYOR?

600
00:17:30,066 --> 00:17:31,300
>> SUPPORTIVE GOING FORWARD AND

601
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:34,433
HOLDING THOSE CULPABLE TO WHAT

602
00:17:34,433 --> 00:17:35,866
HAPPENED TO THE RESIDENTS IN

603
00:17:35,866 --> 00:17:37,266
FLINT AND MAKING SURE THIS NEVER

604
00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:38,500
HAPPENS TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY

605
00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:41,700
WHILE WE ARE AROUND AND SO I'M

606
00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:42,933
FORTH THINKING WHEN IT RELATES

607
00:17:42,933 --> 00:17:44,433
TO MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE

608
00:17:44,433 --> 00:17:46,733
PATHWAYS OF PERMISSIBLE HEALTH

609
00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,133
TO GET TO THE PLACE THEY NEED TO

610
00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:50,066
TO MAKE YOU KNOW RESIDENTS OF

611
00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:52,000
THE CITY OF FLINT WHOLE.

612
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,966
>> MAYOR ELECT IF YOU COULD SAY

613
00:17:53,966 --> 00:17:55,566
WELL I GUESS TO YOUR FORMER

614
00:17:55,566 --> 00:17:57,100
COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE

615
00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:59,733
RIGHT NOW FLINT NEEDS ONE THING

616
00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:01,066
THAT THE STATE COULD DO FOR THE

617
00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:03,533
CITY, TO HELP IT TO CONTINUE TO

618
00:18:03,533 --> 00:18:04,966
MOVE FORWARD WHAT WOULD THAT ASK

619
00:18:04,966 --> 00:18:08,733
BE IF YOU COULD WAVE A MAGIC

620
00:18:08,733 --> 00:18:11,633
WAND AND GET WHAT YOU WANTED?

621
00:18:11,633 --> 00:18:12,866
>> WHEN YOU GET TO LANSING YOUR

622
00:18:12,866 --> 00:18:17,233
FIRST NAME IS REP AND LAST IS

623
00:18:17,233 --> 00:18:18,333
DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN AND I ASK

624
00:18:18,333 --> 00:18:19,866
THEM TO TURN TO THE UNION SIDE

625
00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:21,433
OF WHAT HAPPENED AND LOOK INTO

626
00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:22,866
YOUR HEARTS IN THIS AND WHAT WE

627
00:18:22,866 --> 00:18:24,366
NEED IN FLINT, WHATEVER THEY

628
00:18:24,366 --> 00:18:26,533
NEED YOU KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE

629
00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:28,933
WILLING TO LISTEN AND WILLING TO

630
00:18:28,933 --> 00:18:31,100
LOOK FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP AND

631
00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:31,400
ASSIST.

632
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,500
>> IS THAT FUNDING?

633
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:34,066
>> IT'S FUNDING IN MOST PARTS

634
00:18:34,066 --> 00:18:35,066
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT LANSING

635
00:18:35,066 --> 00:18:37,200
DOES GIVES FUNDING AND SO WE ARE

636
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,766
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT FUNDING

637
00:18:38,766 --> 00:18:40,866
AND THE GOAL IS THIS WE WANT TO

638
00:18:40,866 --> 00:18:44,566
CUT THE UMBILICAL CORD AND TAKE

639
00:18:44,566 --> 00:18:46,166
FLINT TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S

640
00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:47,433
INDEPENDENT OF ANY SUBSIDIES OR

641
00:18:47,433 --> 00:18:49,266
ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHATEVER

642
00:18:49,266 --> 00:18:50,466
COMMUNITIES GET.

643
00:18:50,466 --> 00:18:52,066
FLINT HAS TO BE RESTORED TO THAT

644
00:18:52,066 --> 00:18:55,333
POINT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE

645
00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:59,900
AN ON GOING AND INTO PERPETUITY

646
00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:00,966
HELP BECAUSE OF THIS, WE WANT TO

647
00:19:00,966 --> 00:19:02,333
GET TO AN INDEPENDENT PLACE AND

648
00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:03,666
WHERE I WILL TAKE IT.

649
00:19:03,666 --> 00:19:04,866
>> THAT IS FIVE YEARS DOWN THE

650
00:19:04,866 --> 00:19:05,133
ROAD.

651
00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:08,266
>> IT COULD BE, I'M GETTING ON

652
00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:09,500
THE RIGHT TRACK AND WHETHER IT'S

653
00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:11,966
THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS WE

654
00:19:11,966 --> 00:19:13,033
WILL REFOCUS THE MISSION OF WHAT

655
00:19:13,033 --> 00:19:14,766
WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE FLINT A

656
00:19:14,766 --> 00:19:16,166
BETTER PLACE AND BETTER QUALITY

657
00:19:16,166 --> 00:19:18,066
OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AND FLINT

658
00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:19,366
IS A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND

659
00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:21,933
THE MOST SEGREGATED CITY IN THE

660
00:19:21,933 --> 00:19:22,700
STATE OF MICHIGAN BUT WE ARE

661
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:24,233
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO

662
00:19:24,233 --> 00:19:25,666
UNITE OUR EFFORTS AND THOUGHTS

663
00:19:25,666 --> 00:19:27,233
AROUND THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

664
00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:28,566
AND TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW

665
00:19:28,566 --> 00:19:30,633
RESIDENTIAL RECREATION,

666
00:19:30,633 --> 00:19:32,066
ECONOMICS EDUCATION AND SAFETY I

667
00:19:32,066 --> 00:19:33,666
CALL THEM THE FIVE POINTS OF

668
00:19:33,666 --> 00:19:35,766
LIFE THAT EVERYONE HAS

669
00:19:35,766 --> 00:19:37,033
BIRMINGHAM HAS THE THINGS AND

670
00:19:37,033 --> 00:19:41,000
CITY OF FLINT AND PONTIAC AND

671
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,533
HIGHLAND PARK DESERVES THOSE

672
00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:46,700
THINGS AND LEGISLATIVE BLACK

673
00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,566
CAUCUS AND WHEN I SUBMIT TO

674
00:19:48,566 --> 00:19:51,333
RESIGN AND THE URBAN CORE AND

675
00:19:51,333 --> 00:19:52,500
DECONSTRUCTED BY THE EMERGENCY

676
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,566
MANAGER VIRUS SO WE HAVE TO

677
00:19:54,566 --> 00:19:56,066
SOMEWHAT MAKE THOSE COMMUNITIES

678
00:19:56,066 --> 00:19:56,800
WHOLE AGAIN.

679
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,266
>> ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE

680
00:19:58,266 --> 00:19:59,833
LEDGER WE TALK ABOUT THIS

681
00:19:59,833 --> 00:20:01,600
PREVIOUSLY BUT FLINT'S PENSION

682
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,666
FUND IS 36% FUNDED, IT WAS 50%

683
00:20:05,666 --> 00:20:07,666
JUST FIVE YEARS AGO SO IT HAS

684
00:20:07,666 --> 00:20:10,900
BEEN IN DECLINE AND AT THE SAME

685
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:13,300
TIME THIS CITY'S FINANCES SHOW

686
00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:15,900
AT LEAST THE MOST RECENT BUDGET

687
00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:18,333
THEY ARE PROJECTING SPEND DOWN

688
00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:20,766
OF THE FUND BALANCE AND DEFICIT

689
00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:22,733
SPENDING IS GOING TO RETURN TO

690
00:20:22,733 --> 00:20:24,133
FLINT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TURN

691
00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:26,000
AROUND THAT SHIP?

692
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,500
>> YOU SOUNDED LIKE TIM SKUBICK

693
00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:28,933
THERE WHEN YOU GAVE ME THE SCARY

694
00:20:28,933 --> 00:20:31,233
NUMBERS BUT WHAT WE WHERE GOING

695
00:20:31,233 --> 00:20:33,000
TO DO IS TAKE ANALYSIS AND DO A

696
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,333
FINANCIAL AUDIT TO SEE WHERE WE

697
00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,133
ARE AND DO AN OPERATIONAL AUDIT

698
00:20:36,133 --> 00:20:37,966
TO SEE WHERE WE ARE BUT MANY

699
00:20:37,966 --> 00:20:39,133
COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE

700
00:20:39,133 --> 00:20:41,666
OF MICHIGAN ARE UNDER FUNDED IN

701
00:20:41,666 --> 00:20:43,166
PENSION SYSTEMS SO THAT IS NOT

702
00:20:43,166 --> 00:20:44,566
UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF FLINT BUT

703
00:20:44,566 --> 00:20:45,633
FIGURE PATHWAYS AROUND THAT

704
00:20:45,633 --> 00:20:46,633
BECAUSE I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE

705
00:20:46,633 --> 00:20:48,166
THAT THE CITY OF FLINT HONORS

706
00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:50,666
ALL COMMITMENTS TO RETIREES AND

707
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:53,566
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO

708
00:20:53,566 --> 00:20:55,033
THE NECESSARY THINGS TO HAVE A

709
00:20:55,033 --> 00:20:56,933
COURSE CORRECTION TO TRY TO OFF

710
00:20:56,933 --> 00:20:59,233
SET SOME OF THOSE DANGEROUS

711
00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:01,233
NUMBERS THAT YOU JUST SAID.

712
00:21:01,233 --> 00:21:02,700
>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH

713
00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:03,666
THE POLICE CHIEF?

714
00:21:03,666 --> 00:21:03,966
.

715
00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:05,166
>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A NEW

716
00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:06,966
DIRECTION THERE.

717
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,600
>> THE CURRENT CHIEF IS OUT.

718
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,233
>> THE CURRENT CHIEF RIGHT NOW

719
00:21:10,233 --> 00:21:11,433
WILL BE OUT, YES.

720
00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:12,900
>> WHEN?

721
00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:13,900
>> MONDAY.

722
00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,066
>> WHY?

723
00:21:15,066 --> 00:21:17,333
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMS OF

724
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,400
SAFETY AND COMMUNITY SAFETY IS

725
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,600
VERY SERIOUS AND YOU CANNOT HAVE

726
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,966
ANY OTHER THINGS ECONOMIC

727
00:21:22,966 --> 00:21:25,166
DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, GOOD

728
00:21:25,166 --> 00:21:26,300
QUALITY OF LIFE IF YOU DON'T

729
00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:27,733
FEEL SAFE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

730
00:21:27,733 --> 00:21:29,033
THE CURRENT CHIEF IS A GOOD

731
00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:29,900
FRIEND.

732
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,566
I CONSIDER HIM A PERSONAL FRIEND

733
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:33,100
BUT WE NEED A DIFFERENT

734
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:34,466
DIRECTION AND WE NEED SOMETHING

735
00:21:34,466 --> 00:21:35,833
THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO

736
00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:37,233
UNITE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT

737
00:21:37,233 --> 00:21:38,633
EFFORTS THROUGH MICHIGAN STATE

738
00:21:38,633 --> 00:21:39,766
POLICE OFFICERS WHICH ARE INSIDE

739
00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:41,566
THE CITY OF FLINT, WE HAVE THE

740
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:43,866
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE

741
00:21:43,866 --> 00:21:45,666
OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES

742
00:21:45,666 --> 00:21:47,300
AND NEED A COOPERATIVE LEVEL OF

743
00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,033
UNDERSTANDING HOW WE ARE GOING

744
00:21:48,033 --> 00:21:49,466
TO BE POLICING OUR COMMUNITY SO

745
00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:50,866
I THINK WE NEED TO BRING

746
00:21:50,866 --> 00:21:52,266
SOMEBODY IN THAT WILL BE ABLE TO

747
00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:55,233
BE THE COAGULANT IN LAW

748
00:21:55,233 --> 00:21:55,600
ENFORCEMENT.

749
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,133
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND?

750
00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:59,100
>> A COUPLE PEOPLE IN MIND AND

751
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,066
DATING A FEW OF THEM BUT.

752
00:22:01,066 --> 00:22:02,400
>> PREDATING THIS WEEK.

753
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,666
>> MY GOODNESS YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

754
00:22:05,666 --> 00:22:07,000
BUT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A FEW

755
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,266
PEOPLE BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS

756
00:22:08,266 --> 00:22:10,700
THAT FLINT IS A COMMUNITY IN

757
00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:12,466
CRISIS AND IN TRIAGE SO WHO

758
00:22:12,466 --> 00:22:14,266
WANTS TO LEAVE THAT HAS A SKILL

759
00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:16,900
SET SOMEWHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE

760
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:18,800
FOR LESS MONEY AND MORE WORK,

761
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,533
RIGHT.

762
00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:20,433
>> SO DO YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO

763
00:22:20,433 --> 00:22:21,933
COME IN AND BE TOUGHER ON CRIME

764
00:22:21,933 --> 00:22:23,933
AND ARREST EVERYTHING THAT

765
00:22:23,933 --> 00:22:24,300
MOVES?

766
00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:26,266
>> NOT AT ALL, NOT AT ALL, WE

767
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,800
REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT

768
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,500
EDUCATION AND DIFFERENT PATHWAYS

769
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:34,533
TO WHERE WE CAN STOP CRIME

770
00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:36,533
GROWING AND HANDLE CRIME WHILE

771
00:22:36,533 --> 00:22:37,900
WE ARE THERE AND HAVE CLEAR

772
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,200
CASES NOT JUST PATROLLING THE

773
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,100
REST BUT WE NEED DETECTIVES TO

774
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:43,300
GET THE CRIMINALS WHO ARE

775
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,066
HABITUAL CRIMINALS OFF THE

776
00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:46,033
STREETS BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND

777
00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:47,866
YOU HAVE A SMALL NUCLEUS OF

778
00:22:47,866 --> 00:22:49,233
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE

779
00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:50,800
COMMITTING CRIME ALL AROUND YOUR

780
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,333
COMMUNITIES.

781
00:22:51,333 --> 00:22:52,633
>> MAYOR, I'M SURE THIS HAPPENS

782
00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:54,333
TO YOU AND PROBABLY EVERYONE

783
00:22:54,333 --> 00:22:56,100
AROUND THIS TABLE WHEN YOU

784
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,100
TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AND

785
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,766
YOU SAY THE WORD FLINT THE FIRST

786
00:22:58,766 --> 00:23:01,666
QUESTION ALWAYS IS THE WATER

787
00:23:01,666 --> 00:23:03,300
SAFE TO DRINK AND MICHIGAN RADIO

788
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:04,700
WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF REPORTING

789
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,066
ON THAT AND ONE OF THE TOP

790
00:23:06,066 --> 00:23:07,266
STORIES IS THE WATER IS SAFE TO

791
00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,766
DRINK...BUT IT'S COMPLICATED

792
00:23:09,766 --> 00:23:11,400
WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER WHEN SOMEONE

793
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,300
SAYS TO YOU IS THE WATER IN

794
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:15,200
FLINT SAFE TO DRINK?

795
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,000
>> YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION ISSUE

796
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,866
RIGHT AND SO FLINT WAS

797
00:23:18,866 --> 00:23:19,766
TRAUMATIZED AND ANY TIME YOU

798
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:22,766
HAVE TRAUMA WITH ANYTHING YOU

799
00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:24,033
HAVE TO GO THROUGH REMEDIATION

800
00:23:24,033 --> 00:23:25,400
OF THE TRAUMA SO WE HAVE NOT

801
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,500
BEEN EFFECTIVELY GOING AND

802
00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:29,700
TALKING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT

803
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,766
WHAT HAPPENED AND THEN THE LEVEL

804
00:23:31,766 --> 00:23:33,366
OF TRAUMA WILL START TO

805
00:23:33,366 --> 00:23:33,833
DISSIPATE.

806
00:23:33,833 --> 00:23:36,533
AND SO THE WATER IS TESTING

807
00:23:36,533 --> 00:23:37,633
BETTER, YES.

808
00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:39,500
BUT PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF THAT

809
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,800
WATER IS THAT THEY WON'T DRINK

810
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,900
IT AGAIN SO WE HAVE TO GET TO A

811
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,766
PLACE WHERE WE HAVE TO COME OFF

812
00:23:45,766 --> 00:23:47,466
OF BOTTLED WATER AT SOME

813
00:23:47,466 --> 00:23:48,733
PARTICULAR POINT.

814
00:23:48,733 --> 00:23:50,533
>> ARE YOU DRINKING THE WATER?

815
00:23:50,533 --> 00:23:52,766
>> NO, OUT OF THE TAP DIRECTLY,

816
00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:53,200
NO.

817
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,733
I'M DRINKING FILTERED WATER.

818
00:23:55,733 --> 00:23:57,600
MY WIFE THINKS SHE IS NOT

819
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,033
DRINKING FILTERED WATER BUT

820
00:23:59,033 --> 00:24:00,666
EVERY TIME SHE PUTS HER CUP IN

821
00:24:00,666 --> 00:24:03,666
IF ICE MAKER I SAID YOU KNOW

822
00:24:03,666 --> 00:24:05,066
IT'S COMING FROM THE TAP BUT

823
00:24:05,066 --> 00:24:06,633
COMES THROUGH A FILTER SO IT'S A

824
00:24:06,633 --> 00:24:08,700
LEVEL OF COMFORT TIM AND HOW WE

825
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:09,833
HAVE TO GET THERE IS GOING TO BE

826
00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:11,566
A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND EDUCATION

827
00:24:11,566 --> 00:24:12,233
PROCESS.

828
00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:13,533
>> MAYOR, THERE HAS BEEN SOME

829
00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:14,966
BACK AND FORTH OVER THE PAST

830
00:24:14,966 --> 00:24:16,100
COUPLE OF YEARS BETWEEN THE

831
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,766
STATE AND MAYOR WEAVER'S

832
00:24:18,766 --> 00:24:19,633
ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE

833
00:24:19,633 --> 00:24:21,166
REPLACEMENT OF LEAD SERVICE

834
00:24:21,166 --> 00:24:21,600
LINES.

835
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,966
HOW DO YOU HOPE TO REPAIR THAT

836
00:24:23,966 --> 00:24:25,033
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE OR

837
00:24:25,033 --> 00:24:27,066
DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY IF YOU

838
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,566
FEEL THAT'S NEEDED?

839
00:24:28,566 --> 00:24:29,900
>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT

840
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,000
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE.

841
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,900
AND PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE WHEN

842
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,533
THE CRISIS HIT WE DID

843
00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:38,500
APPROPRIATIONS AND WE DID BUDGET

844
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:39,600
AMENDMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS,

845
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,166
NOT ONE LEGISLATOR IN THE HOUSE

846
00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:43,233
OR SENATE VOTED NO AGAINST THAT

847
00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:45,200
AND THE STATE PLACE PROBABLY

848
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,466
MORE IN ACCESS OF 300 MILLION TO

849
00:24:47,466 --> 00:24:48,366
THE RECOVERY EFFORT IN THE CITY

850
00:24:48,366 --> 00:24:49,900
OF FLINT AND SO THAT IS A

851
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:51,533
COOPERATIVE EFFORT THERE.

852
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:54,233
THE IDEA ABOUT YOU KNOW HOW THAT

853
00:24:54,233 --> 00:24:56,433
HAPPENED ON THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL

854
00:24:56,433 --> 00:24:58,133
YOU CAN HAVE AN ALL-STAR

855
00:24:58,133 --> 00:25:00,133
QUARTERBACK THROW THE BALL BUT

856
00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:04,100
NOT A GOOD CATCHER YOU HAVE A

857
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,300
LOSING TEAM AND THE GOVERNOR

858
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,866
WILL HAVE AN ALL STAR RECEIVER

859
00:25:06,866 --> 00:25:08,233
SO THEY CAN THROW THE BALL AND

860
00:25:08,233 --> 00:25:09,533
GET THE BALL AND WE WILL TAKE IT

861
00:25:09,533 --> 00:25:10,900
IN THE END ZONE AND GET A WIN

862
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:11,500
FOR THE PEOPLE.

863
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,300
>> DO YOU THINK GOVERNOR SNYDER

864
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:14,066
SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH

865
00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:14,800
SOMETHING?

866
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,333
>> YES.

867
00:25:15,333 --> 00:25:16,566
I THINK HE SHOULD BE CHARGED

868
00:25:16,566 --> 00:25:17,466
WITH SOMETHING.

869
00:25:17,466 --> 00:25:19,566
WHAT THAT SOMETHING IS I DO NOT

870
00:25:19,566 --> 00:25:25,600
KNOW BUT DENNIS MUCH MORE WAS

871
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,466
CHIEF OF STAFF AND IF YOU READ

872
00:25:27,466 --> 00:25:28,266
COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN MUCH MORE

873
00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:29,833
AND THE GOVERNOR AT THAT

874
00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:31,400
PARTICULAR TIME YOU KNOW IT

875
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,633
SHOWED A LEVEL OF A LACK OF

876
00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:35,700
EMPATHY THAT WHAT WAS GOING ON

877
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,600
IN THE CITY OF FLINT SO YOU KNOW

878
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,166
I BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE BUT WHAT

879
00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,100
LEVEL OF CULPABILITY HE HAS THAT

880
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,266
IS STILL LEFT TO BE DETERMINED.

881
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:43,400
>> ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE HIM

882
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,733
FOR LACK OF EMPATHY?

883
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,366
>> WELL IF IT'S A CRIMINAL

884
00:25:46,366 --> 00:25:48,266
CHARGE, YES, BUT I DON'T THINK

885
00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:48,800
IT IS.

886
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,000
BUT I THINK WHATEVER CRIMINAL

887
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,266
CASE MAY OCCUR FROM THIS WITH

888
00:25:54,266 --> 00:25:55,766
DANA NESSEL I'M NOT SURE IF HE

889
00:25:55,766 --> 00:25:56,800
SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH A

890
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,533
CRIMINAL CRIME BUT DEFINITELY HE

891
00:25:58,533 --> 00:25:59,900
SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR

892
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:00,266
SOMETHING.

893
00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:02,633
>> WANT TO HANG AROUND FOR OT?

894
00:26:02,633 --> 00:26:03,066
>> ABSOLUTELY.

895
00:26:03,066 --> 00:26:04,833
>> WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AND COME

896
00:26:04,833 --> 00:26:09,633
BACK WITH SHELDON NEELY MAYOR OF

897
00:26:09,633 --> 00:26:11,766
FLINT.

898
00:26:11,766 --> 00:26:13,566
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899
00:26:13,566 --> 00:26:14,266
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900
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901
00:26:14,966 --> 00:26:15,566
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902
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903
00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:16,900
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904
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:17,600
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905
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,266
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906
00:26:18,266 --> 00:26:18,966
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907
00:26:18,966 --> 00:26:19,666
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908
00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:20,366
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909
00:26:20,366 --> 00:26:21,066
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910
00:26:21,066 --> 00:26:21,766
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911
00:26:21,766 --> 00:26:22,466
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912
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913
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,866
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914
00:26:23,866 --> 00:26:24,200
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915
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916
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917
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