WEBVTT 00:00.966 --> 00:02.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:2.5% ♪ 00:02.100 --> 00:04.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WELCOME BACK TO THIS SPECIAL 00:04.533 --> 00:06.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% YEAR END EDITION OF "OFF THE 00:06.266 --> 00:07.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% RECORD" WHAT HAPPENED IN 2017 00:07.633 --> 00:11.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN 2018 ON 00:11.833 --> 00:15.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE PANEL CHUCK STOKES ZOE CLARK 00:15.900 --> 00:17.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ZACH GORCHOW BILL BALLENGER SIT 00:17.933 --> 00:20.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN WITH US AS WE GET THE INSIDE 00:20.633 --> 00:22.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% OUT "OFF THE RECORD." 00:22.500 --> 00:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 00:23.200 --> 00:23.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 00:23.866 --> 00:24.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 00:24.533 --> 00:25.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 00:25.200 --> 00:25.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 00:25.900 --> 00:26.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 00:26.600 --> 00:27.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 00:27.300 --> 00:28.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 00:28.000 --> 00:28.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% GRAND RAPIDS. 00:28.400 --> 00:28.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 00:28.933 --> 00:29.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 00:29.533 --> 00:30.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 00:30.200 --> 00:30.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 00:30.900 --> 00:31.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% 1941. 00:31.166 --> 00:31.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 00:31.866 --> 00:32.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 00:32.500 --> 00:33.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% MICHIGAN SEASONS. 00:33.000 --> 00:33.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 00:33.700 --> 00:34.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% IT TAKES. 00:34.066 --> 00:52.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% HAGER FOX.COM." 00:52.166 --> 00:54.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 00:54.533 --> 00:55.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL 00:55.900 --> 00:57.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% RESOURCES, MICHIGAN STATE 00:57.466 --> 00:59.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% UNIVERSITY WANTS TO BE A TRUSTED 00:59.300 --> 01:00.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PARTNER IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 01:00.600 --> 01:02.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% FOOD AND WHERE IT COMES FROM 01:02.700 --> 01:04.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% INCLUDING ITS IMPACT ON OUR 01:04.366 --> 01:05.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HEALTH AND ON OUR PLANET LEARN 01:05.866 --> 01:09.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% MORE AT FOOD.MSU.EDU. 01:09.966 --> 01:12.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND NOW THIS EDITION OF "OFF THE 01:12.000 --> 01:14.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% RECORD" WITH TIM SKUBICK. 01:14.266 --> 01:15.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WELL WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE 01:15.400 --> 01:16.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% END OF THIS YEAR AND INTO THE 01:16.900 --> 01:18.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NEW YEAR WHAT WAS THE TOP STORY 01:18.566 --> 01:20.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% CHUCK FOR THIS PAST ONE? 01:20.933 --> 01:23.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I WOULD SAY MICHIGAN ECONOMY 01:23.800 --> 01:27.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% KEEPS HUMMING AND ME TOO WOMEN 01:27.100 --> 01:28.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% IMPACTS MICHIGAN TOO. 01:28.000 --> 01:30.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> THE ON GOING SCANDAL AT THE 01:30.033 --> 01:31.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AGENCY 01:31.033 --> 01:33.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MORE THAN 37,000 PEOPLE WRONGLY 01:33.866 --> 01:35.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% ACCUSED OF FRAUD THE YEAR 01:35.166 --> 01:36.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% STARTED WITH THE SNYDER 01:36.166 --> 01:37.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ADMINISTRATION SAYING NOTHING IS 01:37.566 --> 01:39.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REALLY WRONG AND ENDS WITH THEM 01:39.700 --> 01:40.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% CALLING FOR A VICTIM 01:40.600 --> 01:42.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% COMPENSATION FUND. 01:42.000 --> 01:43.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> ALTHOUGH IT'S NATIONAL I'M 01:43.566 --> 01:45.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GOING TO JUST SAY THAT THE TRUMP 01:45.466 --> 01:48.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PRESIDENCY BECAUSE THE TENTICLES 01:48.966 --> 01:50.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GO INTO EVERY BIT OF POLITICS 01:50.866 --> 01:53.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LOOKING INTO 2018 ELECTIONS AND 01:53.066 --> 01:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE 01:54.166 --> 01:54.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% STATE. 01:54.433 --> 01:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I AGREE WITH ZOE AND ALSO SAY 01:55.833 --> 01:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE MOST BORING STORY OF THE 01:57.833 --> 01:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% YEAR BUT IT CONTINUES AND THAT 01:59.500 --> 02:01.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IS PUBLIC EMPLOYEE ENTITLEMENT 02:01.566 --> 02:06.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% REFORM, MUNICIPAL SCHOOL AND 02:06.600 --> 02:08.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ACHIEVEMENT OF THE LEGISLATURE 02:08.266 --> 02:09.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THAT IS VERY HARD TO COVER, VERY 02:09.933 --> 02:10.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% HARD TO APPRECIATE. 02:10.933 --> 02:13.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WE STARTED OUT THE YEAR WITH 02:13.200 --> 02:15.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TOM LEONARD WITH AN INCOME TAX 02:15.800 --> 02:19.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% ROLL BACK. 02:19.833 --> 02:21.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IT WAS A BAD START, WASN'T IT 02:21.700 --> 02:23.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% FOR MR. SPEAKER. 02:23.566 --> 02:24.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> IT WAS JUST TO REFRESH 02:24.933 --> 02:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% EVERYBODY'S MEMORY THERE WAS 02:26.266 --> 02:29.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THIS PEOPLE CALL IT INCOME TAX 02:29.700 --> 02:31.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CUT FEVER THE HOUSE RUSHED A 02:31.700 --> 02:33.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT FIRST 02:33.766 --> 02:35.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WOULD HAVE PHASED OUT THE INCOME 02:35.066 --> 02:37.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TAX OVER MANY, MANY YEARS THEN 02:37.000 --> 02:39.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EVENTUALLY THEY CHANGED IT TO 02:39.100 --> 02:42.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% JUST REDUCE THE RATE TO 3.9% AND 02:42.466 --> 02:44.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WITHOUT REALLY DOING THE GROUND 02:44.966 --> 02:47.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WORK NECESSARILY TO GIVE BILL A 02:47.966 --> 02:49.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CHANCE THEY PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE 02:49.766 --> 02:53.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AND EVEN MORE ASTONISHINGLY 02:53.166 --> 02:54.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DECIDED TO HAVE IT BE A RECORDED 02:54.833 --> 02:55.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% VOTE. 02:55.133 --> 02:58.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THE FIRST BIG VOTE OF THE 02:58.800 --> 02:59.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SPEAKERSHIP IT GOES TO DEFEAT 02:59.866 --> 03:01.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND EXPOSED A LOT OF DIVISIONS 03:01.300 --> 03:02.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% IN THE CAUCUS. 03:02.566 --> 03:04.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> THE GANG OF 12. 03:04.133 --> 03:05.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I WOULD JUST SAY EVEN THOUGH 03:05.266 --> 03:07.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% IN THE NEWS MEDIA AND THE 03:07.200 --> 03:09.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GENERAL PUBLIC IT WAS PERCEIVED 03:09.033 --> 03:10.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AS A HUGE EMBARRASSMENT TO 03:10.766 --> 03:11.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% LEONARD. 03:11.200 --> 03:13.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% I REALLY DON'T THINK IT DID HIM 03:13.400 --> 03:15.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ANY LASTING DAMAGE WHATSOEVER 03:15.033 --> 03:17.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND I THINK HE FELT AND IN HIS 03:17.366 --> 03:19.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OWN MIND THAT HE HAD TO PUT THAT 03:19.200 --> 03:21.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% VOTE UP ON THE BOARD BECAUSE HIS 03:21.066 --> 03:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CAUCUS WAS DEMANDING A ROLL CALL 03:23.666 --> 03:26.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% VOTE AND HE DID IT AND I DON'T 03:26.100 --> 03:29.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% REALLY THINK HE SUFFERED ANY 03:29.100 --> 03:29.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% CONSEQUENCES. 03:29.800 --> 03:31.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> IF THE CAUCUS SAID TO GO JUMP 03:31.333 --> 03:33.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN THE LAKE WOULD HE GO JUMP IN 03:33.033 --> 03:33.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% THE LAKE? 03:33.700 --> 03:34.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> NO ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE 03:34.866 --> 03:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THEY WANTED A ROLL CALL, A LOT 03:36.666 --> 03:39.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OF PEOPLE IN THE CAUCUS WE WANT 03:39.133 --> 03:40.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% A ROLL CALL. 03:40.466 --> 03:41.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> GET THEM ON THE RECORD AND 03:41.633 --> 03:43.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EVEN IF WE LOSE IT WE WANT TO BE 03:43.200 --> 03:44.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ABLE TO POINT TO THAT ROLL CALL 03:44.900 --> 03:45.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% AND HE DID IT. 03:45.700 --> 03:47.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> I THINK THE ISSUE THOUGH IS 03:47.833 --> 03:49.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THAT HAD BEEN ONE ISOLATED EVENT 03:49.633 --> 03:51.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT MAYBE THAT IS HOW WE COULD 03:51.000 --> 03:51.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% TAKE IT. 03:51.466 --> 03:54.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% I THINK THE ISSUE OF AUTO NO 03:54.066 --> 03:55.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% FAULT WHICH YOU BROUGHT UP 03:55.866 --> 03:57.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EARLIER BEFORE WE STARTED TAPING 03:57.600 --> 03:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT SEEMED 03:59.500 --> 04:02.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE VOTE COUNTING WASN'T QUITE 04:02.066 --> 04:03.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THERE OR NOT AWARE OF WHAT WAS 04:03.633 --> 04:05.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GOING TO HAPPEN PUT IT UP ON THE 04:05.166 --> 04:07.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BOARD AND SO I THINK IT AGAIN IF 04:07.533 --> 04:09.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE INCOME TAX WAS ISOLATED AND 04:09.233 --> 04:11.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WE SAW IT ONCE AND WE SAW THE 04:11.266 --> 04:13.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MOVIE AT LEAST TWICE AND IT SORT 04:13.966 --> 04:16.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF CONTINUED LEADERSHIP ON THE 04:16.166 --> 04:17.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BOARD AND HOLDING LAWMAKERS IN 04:17.900 --> 04:19.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEIR SEATS TO VOTE WELL INTO 04:19.533 --> 04:20.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% THE NIGHT. 04:20.166 --> 04:21.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEW 04:21.966 --> 04:24.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MINDSET AT WORK WHETHER IT'S ONE 04:24.433 --> 04:26.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OFF, ONE SESSION PHENOMENON THAT 04:26.900 --> 04:29.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IS NOT GOING TO LAST BEYOND 2018 04:29.433 --> 04:30.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% WE DON'T KNOW. 04:30.500 --> 04:32.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BUT ALL THESE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN 04:32.766 --> 04:36.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% USED TO HAVING VOTES PULLED OFF 04:36.533 --> 04:39.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE BOARD NEVER PUT UP IF THE 04:39.233 --> 04:40.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% VOTES WERE NOT THERE, THAT IS 04:40.233 --> 04:41.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% THE WAY YOU DID THAT. 04:41.300 --> 04:42.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> CLEAR THE BOARD, CLEAR THE 04:42.633 --> 04:44.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BOARD OR DON'T PUT IT TO A VOTE. 04:44.400 --> 04:51.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NOW IT'S LOOK DAMN THE TORPEDOS 04:51.466 --> 04:52.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% FULL SPEED AHEAD. 04:52.533 --> 04:54.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> HE SAID IT'S LEADERSHIP AND 04:54.266 --> 04:55.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% OTHERS SAY IT'S NOT. 04:55.200 --> 04:57.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT MAKES YOU WONDER KNOWING HE 04:57.100 --> 05:00.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAS HIGHER POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS 05:00.100 --> 05:01.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NOW WAS HE DOING ALL THIS WITH 05:01.633 --> 05:03.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THAT MORE IN MIND OR WAS HE 05:03.333 --> 05:05.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DOING IT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY 05:05.066 --> 05:06.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AFFECT THE LEGISLATION AND GET 05:06.333 --> 05:07.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT THROUGH OR DID HE JUST WANT 05:07.766 --> 05:10.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TO AS YOU SAID ONE GET PEOPLE ON 05:10.200 --> 05:12.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE RECORD TWO ALSO PUSH TOPICS 05:12.600 --> 05:16.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THAT HAVE NOT DONE WELL, MAYBE 05:16.366 --> 05:18.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LAGGING FOR A LONG TIME OR BEEN 05:18.233 --> 05:19.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IGNORED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND 05:19.966 --> 05:21.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NOW HE CAN COME OUT AND HE CAN 05:21.366 --> 05:23.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% RUN A CAMPAIGN ON I MAY NOT HAVE 05:23.433 --> 05:25.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GOTTEN IT DONE BUT I AT LEAST 05:25.866 --> 05:26.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% RAISED THE CONSCIOUS. 05:26.900 --> 05:28.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> I HAD THE GUTS TO DO IT. 05:28.300 --> 05:29.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> AND THAT IS THE CRITICISM 05:29.866 --> 05:31.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN 05:31.333 --> 05:33.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IN THE CAPITOL FOR A LONG TIME 05:33.500 --> 05:34.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% IS THIS WAS ALL ABOUT HIS 05:34.933 --> 05:36.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CAMPAIGN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL. 05:36.400 --> 05:37.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% SHE WAS NOT OFFICIALLY A 05:37.500 --> 05:38.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% CANDIDATE AT THAT POINT BUT 05:38.900 --> 05:40.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EVERYBODY KNEW HE WAS GOING TO 05:40.366 --> 05:41.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% RUN AND YOU HAVE TO WIN THE 05:41.800 --> 05:44.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% REPUBLICAN NOMINATION AT A STATE 05:44.666 --> 05:45.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% CONVENTION WHICH IS A VERY 05:45.700 --> 05:46.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONSERVATIVE AUDIENCE AND TO 05:46.833 --> 05:48.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BILL'S POINT I THINK IT ALSO 05:48.633 --> 05:50.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% LIKE YOU SAID THE NEW MINDSET 05:50.700 --> 05:52.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% INSTEAD OF 56 VOTES AS THE 05:52.633 --> 05:55.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MANTRA NOW THE NEW MANTRA IS WE 05:55.300 --> 05:56.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOUGHT FOR THE CONSERVATIVE 05:56.333 --> 05:57.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ISSUE AND DID NOT PASS IT WHO 05:57.966 --> 05:59.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CARES WE FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. 05:59.666 --> 06:00.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> YOU ASKED WHAT WAS THE STORY 06:00.833 --> 06:02.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OF THE YEAR AND YOU COULD SAY 06:02.033 --> 06:03.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHAT WAS THE STORY OF THE DECADE 06:03.533 --> 06:05.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHICH IS TERM LIMITS RIGHT AND 06:05.233 --> 06:08.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% WHAT WE ARE SEEING HAS 06:08.166 --> 06:09.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CONSEQUENCES OF THEM AND THAT IS 06:09.066 --> 06:11.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THAT EVEN WHEN FOLKS ARE IN A 06:11.500 --> 06:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% JOB THERE IS ALWAYS LOOKING 06:13.033 --> 06:14.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AHEAD AND SOME OF THE HOUSE 06:14.166 --> 06:15.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% VOTES WERE SETTING DIFFICULT 06:15.933 --> 06:17.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% VOTES UP SO THEY COULD THEN RUN 06:17.500 --> 06:18.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR SENATE BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S 06:18.933 --> 06:20.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ANOTHER ELECTION AND LOOKING FOR 06:20.233 --> 06:22.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ANOTHER JOB AFTER TERM LIMITS OR 06:22.533 --> 06:24.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BECAUSE YOU COULD ONLY RUN FOR 06:24.066 --> 06:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SO LONG AND TAKE THE VOTE SO 06:26.266 --> 06:28.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHEN YOU RUN FOR THE NEXT JOB 06:28.100 --> 06:29.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% YOU CAN SAY. 06:29.033 --> 06:30.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> GO AHEAD CHUCK. 06:30.100 --> 06:31.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I WAS GOING TO SAY GIVEN ALL 06:31.433 --> 06:34.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THE TURN OVER WE HAVE SEEN 06:34.200 --> 06:35.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% POLITICALLY THIS YEAR WE MAYBE 06:35.466 --> 06:38.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% DON'T NEED TERM LIMITS. 06:38.833 --> 06:40.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> MAYBE A GOOD POINT, ONE OF 06:40.000 --> 06:41.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE STORIES WE KICKED AROUND ARE 06:41.966 --> 06:43.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ALL OF THE PEOPLE GOING TO RUN 06:43.100 --> 06:45.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FOR GOVERNOR IN 2017 AND BAILED 06:45.133 --> 06:46.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AND HAVE A SHORT LIST HERE 06:46.566 --> 06:50.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MR. KILDEE, MR. -- MS. MILLER 06:50.833 --> 06:53.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND HERE IS ONE I HAVE A CLIP 06:53.100 --> 06:54.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% MARK BERNSTEIN. 06:54.400 --> 06:56.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THIS PANEL WAS ASKED TO EVALUATE 06:56.733 --> 07:01.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HIM GETTING IN AND HERE IT IS. 07:01.966 --> 07:03.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, OKAY? 07:03.433 --> 07:04.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% TAKE A LOOK. 07:04.733 --> 07:06.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% LET'S GO DOWN THE TABLE ON 07:06.733 --> 07:09.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% BERNSTEIN IN OR OUT? 07:09.266 --> 07:11.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> I THINK HE MAY BE IN. 07:11.500 --> 07:12.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I THINK HE IS PROBABLY GOING 07:12.733 --> 07:13.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% TO GET IN. 07:13.233 --> 07:15.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% >> I SAY 90% IN. 07:15.500 --> 07:16.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> I SAY THE SAME. 07:16.400 --> 07:19.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> YEAH, I THINK IT'S 90% IN. 07:19.400 --> 07:23.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% [ LAUGHTER ] 07:23.300 --> 07:25.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK ON THE SHOW. 07:25.066 --> 07:30.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% >> OH, MY GOD. 07:30.133 --> 07:33.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT AT HOME AND 07:33.866 --> 07:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% LISTENING TO AUSTIN. 07:36.500 --> 07:37.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> IF YOU WANT THE INSIDE STORY 07:37.666 --> 07:39.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HERE IT IS, HOW DID WE GET IT 07:39.200 --> 07:40.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% WRONG? 07:40.400 --> 07:40.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% >> I WILL SAY. 07:40.933 --> 07:42.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I THINK WE WERE RIGHT AT THE 07:42.533 --> 07:42.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% TIME. 07:42.933 --> 07:44.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I WAS GOING TO SAY AS MUCH 07:44.866 --> 07:46.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DO A, YOU 07:46.633 --> 07:50.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% KNOW, WE ALL BELIEVE HAD 07:50.000 --> 07:50.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS VERY 07:50.966 --> 07:52.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CLOSE TO MARK BERNSTEIN THAT 07:52.933 --> 07:55.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MADE US ALL BELIEVE THAT AT THAT 07:55.166 --> 07:57.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% POINT HE WAS THAT CLOSE AND US 07:57.533 --> 07:59.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IN LIFE WE ALL MAKE DIFFERENT 07:59.466 --> 07:59.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% DECISIONS. 07:59.800 --> 08:02.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I THINK MAYBE POSSIBLY IF YOU 08:02.066 --> 08:03.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ASKED HIMSELF ON THE DAY OF THE 08:03.733 --> 08:05.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TAPING HE MAY HAVE ALSO SAID 80, 08:05.866 --> 08:08.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% 90% WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE 08:08.333 --> 08:10.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EXCUSES HERE SOMEONE ELSE HELP 08:10.566 --> 08:14.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% ME OUT. 08:14.200 --> 08:16.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% >> GO DOWN WITH YOU. 08:16.233 --> 08:18.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% [ LAUGHTER ] 08:18.566 --> 08:20.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND I CERTAINLY OVERLOOKED WAS 08:20.500 --> 08:22.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE CONSEQUENCES TO HIS FAMILY'S 08:22.333 --> 08:23.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% LAW FIRM IF HE RAN. 08:23.866 --> 08:24.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% >> YES. 08:24.366 --> 08:27.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> THAT IS THE FAMILY'S LEGACY 08:27.400 --> 08:29.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND WHILE I THINK ALL OF US WHO 08:29.633 --> 08:31.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COVER THINGS IN POLITICS THAT IS 08:31.333 --> 08:32.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% OUR FOCUS. 08:32.133 --> 08:33.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WE GOT ALL CAUGHT UP IN HE IS 08:33.800 --> 08:35.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THINKING ABOUT IT, WELL WHY 08:35.500 --> 08:37.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WOULDN'T HE RUN, HE HAS THE 08:37.200 --> 08:38.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MONEY AND THE NAME ID BUT HIS 08:38.833 --> 08:40.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BROTHER ALREADY LEFT THE FIRM TO 08:40.666 --> 08:42.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BECOME A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. 08:42.633 --> 08:44.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HIS FATHER IS TOWARD THE END OF 08:44.400 --> 08:46.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HIS CAREER AND REALLY WOULD HAVE 08:46.566 --> 08:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% LEFT ONLY HIS SISTER AND IT'S 08:48.266 --> 08:49.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MARK BERNSTEIN WHO IS THE FACE 08:49.766 --> 08:51.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% OF THE FIRM IN THE 08:51.133 --> 08:53.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% ADVERTISEMENTS AND THE 08:53.100 --> 08:54.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CONSEQUENCES OF HIM LEAVING AND 08:54.433 --> 08:55.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT I 08:55.600 --> 08:56.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THINK THAT WAS OVERLOOKED. 08:56.900 --> 08:57.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> I BELIEVE. 08:57.666 --> 09:00.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> PRESSURE FROM THE DAD. 09:00.400 --> 09:03.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% >> NO. 09:03.333 --> 09:04.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> IF I'M GONE WHO IS RUNNING 09:04.700 --> 09:05.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% THE SHOW? 09:05.533 --> 09:08.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, HE IS 09:08.266 --> 09:10.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% RELATIVELY YOUNG. 09:10.266 --> 09:10.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> PLENTY OF TIME. 09:10.833 --> 09:12.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I DO NOT THINK THIS IS THE 09:12.100 --> 09:13.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LAST THAT WE HAVE HEARD AND 09:13.566 --> 09:15.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LET'S BE CLEAR HE ALREADY DOES 09:15.100 --> 09:19.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HAVE, YOU KNOW, REGION AT THE 09:19.800 --> 09:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND LIKE 09:21.266 --> 09:22.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLATFORM WHICH 09:22.700 --> 09:24.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TO JUMP AND ALSO HAS YOUNG KIDS. 09:24.633 --> 09:26.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> ANOTHER ELEMENT I TALKED TO 09:26.466 --> 09:27.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% HIM PRIVATELY ABOUT THIS 09:27.933 --> 09:29.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AFTERWARDS HE SAID IF I GOT 09:29.300 --> 09:30.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% ELECTED I WOULD HAVE A 09:30.000 --> 09:32.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE WHAT THE 09:32.600 --> 09:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HECK COULD I GET DONE AND THAT 09:34.500 --> 09:35.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IS A REASONABLE POINT OF VIEW 09:35.933 --> 09:37.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% BUT YOU CAN FIND HOPEFULLY 09:37.300 --> 09:38.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% COMMON GROUND. 09:38.466 --> 09:40.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> REASONS A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE 09:40.566 --> 09:41.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ANTICIPATING HE WOULD RUN IS 09:41.466 --> 09:42.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT HE 09:42.800 --> 09:44.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WOULD BE A GOOD GOVERNOR AND 09:44.966 --> 09:46.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THAT HE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY 09:46.166 --> 09:48.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE AND 09:48.133 --> 09:49.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WORK WITH REPUBLICANS TO A 09:49.333 --> 09:51.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CERTAIN EXTENT BETTER THAN SOME 09:51.100 --> 09:52.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OTHER POLITICAL FIGURES WE CAN 09:52.466 --> 09:53.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% THINK OF. 09:53.166 --> 09:54.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> AND IT GOES IN THE NARRATIVE 09:54.800 --> 09:58.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% AGAIN OF A GROUP OF FOLKS 09:58.066 --> 09:59.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% WONDERING OR NOT WHETHER 09:59.900 --> 10:02.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% GRETCHEN WHITMER IS THE 10:02.100 --> 10:04.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% STRONGEST CANDIDATE. 10:04.433 --> 10:06.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% THERE WAS A CONTINUED 10:06.300 --> 10:08.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CONVERSATION WHEN KILDEE DECIDED 10:08.733 --> 10:11.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NOT TO RUN WOULD SOMEONE JUMP IN 10:11.033 --> 10:13.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AND MARK BERNSTEIN I BELIEVE 10:13.400 --> 10:15.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% OWES ALL OF US A BEER. 10:15.066 --> 10:16.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I THINK THERE HAD TO BE SOME 10:16.400 --> 10:18.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BACK ROOM CONVERSATIONS WITHIN 10:18.000 --> 10:20.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY STRUCTURE 10:20.200 --> 10:21.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HERE TO SAY LOOK IT'S GOING TO 10:21.966 --> 10:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BE A WIDE OPEN RACE FOR GOVERNOR 10:23.666 --> 10:24.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% NEXT TIME AROUND. 10:24.666 --> 10:27.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WE HAVE BEEN OUT OF THAT OFFICE 10:27.266 --> 10:30.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR EIGHT YEARS ONCE SNYDER'S 10:30.300 --> 10:32.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TERM IS FINISHED DO WE REALLY 10:32.500 --> 10:34.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NEED TO HAVE A BLOOD BATH IN THE 10:34.133 --> 10:35.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 10:35.233 --> 10:36.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> WHAT KIND OF YEAR DID 10:36.600 --> 10:38.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% GOVERNOR SNYDER HAVE? 10:38.133 --> 10:39.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS A VERY 10:39.300 --> 10:39.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% GOOD YEAR. 10:39.800 --> 10:41.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% I GUESS YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM 10:41.500 --> 10:43.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TWO STAND POINTS THE ECONOMY 10:43.600 --> 10:45.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONTINUED TO GROW AND IT WAS 10:45.000 --> 10:46.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% STRONG AND REALLY WHAT HE 10:46.433 --> 10:47.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOCUSED ON SO HE IS FOCUSED ON 10:47.866 --> 10:51.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HIS ISSUES THE ECONOMY GROWING 10:51.133 --> 10:52.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% TALENT THE WORKFORCE. 10:52.900 --> 10:54.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MEANWHILE HE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE 10:54.033 --> 10:56.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ANY MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT HE 10:56.533 --> 10:58.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% WAS CHAMPIONING IN THE 10:58.166 --> 10:59.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LEGISLATURE SO THE LEGISLATURE 10:59.166 --> 11:01.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WAS SORT OF A DRIFT DOING ITS 11:01.533 --> 11:03.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OWN THING FORCING SOME THINGS 11:03.133 --> 11:04.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% DOWN HIS THROAT HE WASN'T 11:04.966 --> 11:06.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THRILLED WITH AND HAD THE 11:06.500 --> 11:07.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% UNEMPLOYMENT AGENCY SCANDAL THAT 11:07.866 --> 11:09.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% JUST SPUN TOTALLY OUT OF 11:09.600 --> 11:09.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% CONTROL. 11:09.933 --> 11:11.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HIS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES 11:11.933 --> 11:14.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DIRECTOR NICK LIONS GETS CHARGED 11:14.033 --> 11:16.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IN THE FLINT WATER CRISIS, YOU 11:16.200 --> 11:19.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAVE A SPECTER OF THE GOVERNOR 11:19.466 --> 11:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AND TOP AID ABOUT TESTIMONY 11:23.666 --> 11:27.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% ABOUT WHAT HE KNEE ABOUT 11:27.466 --> 11:29.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% LEGIONNAIRES UNDER OATH. 11:29.900 --> 11:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> HE ALSO SUFFERED A BIG DEFEAT 11:32.000 --> 11:33.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AT THE END OF THE YEAR WITH THE 11:33.333 --> 11:34.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% SUPREME COURT RULING. 11:34.300 --> 11:34.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% >> YES, SIR. 11:34.933 --> 11:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WHICH HE FOUGHT ON THE ISSUE 11:36.666 --> 11:39.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% OF 550 MILLION TO TEACHERS 11:39.366 --> 11:45.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% RETURNED UNCONSTITUTIONALLY 11:45.433 --> 11:47.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% TAKEN AWAY TO 2012. 11:47.466 --> 11:49.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I THINK IT WAS A VERY QUIET YEAR 11:49.400 --> 11:51.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% FOR RICK SNYDER BUT ON THE OTHER 11:51.200 --> 11:53.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HAND IF YOU LOOK AT POLLS HIS 11:53.700 --> 11:57.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% APPROVAL RATING, HIS JOB RATING 11:57.233 --> 11:58.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TICKED UP A LITTLE BIT DURING 11:58.533 --> 12:00.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE YEAR SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WAS 12:00.133 --> 12:02.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ABLE TO RECOVER FROM THE FLINT 12:02.466 --> 12:04.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WATER CRISIS WHICH REALLY DROVE 12:04.066 --> 12:05.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% HIM DOWN. 12:05.233 --> 12:07.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF 12:07.333 --> 12:08.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THAT AND LOOK AT IT SLIGHTLY 12:08.800 --> 12:10.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DIFFERENT GIVEN THE YEAR HE HAD 12:10.766 --> 12:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BEFORE COMING OFF OF ALL OF THE 12:13.033 --> 12:15.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SCANDALS I THINK PART OF IT WAS 12:15.166 --> 12:17.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CAN I JUST GET THROUGH THIS YEAR 12:17.600 --> 12:19.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% WITHOUT ANOTHER MAJOR 12:19.800 --> 12:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CATASTROPHE AND I THINK BACK TO 12:21.266 --> 12:22.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE OLD BILL CLINTON LINE IT'S 12:22.800 --> 12:24.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ABOUT THE ECONOMY STUPID AND THE 12:24.600 --> 12:26.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ECONOMY CONTINUES TO HUM ALONG 12:26.600 --> 12:27.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% IN MICHIGAN, IT MADE 12:27.933 --> 12:29.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% IMPROVEMENTS. 12:29.900 --> 12:32.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HIS APPROVAL RATING IMPROVED 12:32.366 --> 12:35.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SOME, NOT HUGELY BUT HE IS STILL 12:35.433 --> 12:38.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN THE WATER BUT IT MADE MOVING 12:38.700 --> 12:40.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THAT 12:40.600 --> 12:42.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IS A BIG STEP GIVEN WHAT HE HAD 12:42.466 --> 12:43.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TO DEAL WITH THE LAST YEAR AND 12:43.900 --> 12:45.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOU KEEP IN MIND HE STILL HAD TO 12:45.800 --> 12:47.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DEAL WITH A WHOLE LOT OF FLINT 12:47.800 --> 12:48.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% AFTERMATH. 12:48.400 --> 12:50.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A LOT OF STUFF THAT DIDN'T MAKE 12:50.366 --> 12:51.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HEADLINES BUT STILL A LOT OF 12:51.933 --> 12:54.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ENERGY AND A LOT OF TIME THAT 12:54.300 --> 12:55.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HIS ADMINISTRATION HAD TO PUT 12:55.733 --> 12:56.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% INTO FLINT. 12:56.400 --> 12:57.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> BILL SCHUETTE WHO WOULD LIKE 12:57.700 --> 13:03.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HIS JOB NEXT CONTINUING TO MAKE 13:03.966 --> 13:08.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE FLINT THE HEADLINE STORY. 13:08.333 --> 13:10.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> MAJOR CITIES DID PRETTY DARN 13:10.766 --> 13:13.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WELL AND DETROIT IS HUMMING 13:13.100 --> 13:15.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ALONG AND DOWNTOWN, MIDTOWN ALL 13:15.533 --> 13:19.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS AND THE 13:19.633 --> 13:21.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DETROIT PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS 13:21.833 --> 13:24.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TAKEN A DIFFERENT TURN INSTEAD 13:24.033 --> 13:25.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% OF PEOPLE LEAVING THEY ARE 13:25.533 --> 13:26.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% COMING BACK. 13:26.100 --> 13:28.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> TO ADD TO THAT THE IDEA 13:28.166 --> 13:29.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MICHIGAN MAY REACH A POPULATION 13:29.800 --> 13:32.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF 20 MILLION BY 2020 WHICH IS 13:32.866 --> 13:34.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SOMETHING THE GOVERNOR PUSHED 13:34.000 --> 13:36.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOR MAKING MICHIGAN ANOTHER 10 13:36.266 --> 13:37.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% MILLION POPULATION. 13:37.666 --> 13:44.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> REACH IT AGAIN. 13:44.566 --> 13:45.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% VERY TRUE. 13:45.300 --> 13:48.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> HE WAS ENGAGED AND HE DIDN'T 13:48.766 --> 13:50.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IGNORE THE LEGISLATURE BUT WHAT 13:50.233 --> 13:51.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WAS HIS BIG CENTER PIECE FOR THE 13:51.966 --> 13:58.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% YEAR TO WORK ON? 13:58.033 --> 14:00.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> TEACHER PENSION REFORM 14:00.300 --> 14:01.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DICTATED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND 14:01.266 --> 14:03.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WHAT HE PUSHED HARD FOR THE 14:03.033 --> 14:04.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT LEGISLATION 14:04.600 --> 14:07.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HE DID NOT GET MOST OF WHAT HE 14:07.466 --> 14:10.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WANTED, HE IS TRYING TO PUT AN 14:10.800 --> 14:12.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% UNDERSTANDABLY POSITIVE SPIN ON 14:12.666 --> 14:15.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IT AND THAT IS GREAT AND HAS 14:15.933 --> 14:17.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% EVERY RIGHT TO SAY THAT BUT THE 14:17.366 --> 14:18.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LEGISLATURE QUICKLY MIXED WHAT 14:18.600 --> 14:20.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HE WAS REALLY GOING FOR THERE. 14:20.533 --> 14:24.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> AT THE END OF THE YEAR HE DID 14:24.766 --> 14:26.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GET PATHWAYS THROUGH THE HOUSE 14:26.033 --> 14:27.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AND THE SENATE AND GIVES HIM 14:27.766 --> 14:29.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MOMENTUM AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING 14:29.066 --> 14:31.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I THINK HE IS GOING TO EMPHASIZE 14:31.800 --> 14:32.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ON THE STATE OF THE STATE AND 14:32.700 --> 14:34.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PUT PRESSURE ON THE SENATE TO DO 14:34.000 --> 14:35.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% THIS FOR EDUCATION. 14:35.300 --> 14:37.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> HEADLINE FIVE, REFUSE TO GO 14:37.200 --> 14:38.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% AWAY. 14:38.200 --> 14:40.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WHERE IS THIS THING HEADING. 14:40.233 --> 14:45.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> PETITION DRIVE OUT THERE I 14:45.000 --> 14:46.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GO ANY 14:46.433 --> 14:47.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHERE AND CONTINUE TO BE A STORY 14:47.666 --> 14:49.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND COULD BLOWUP AT ANY TIME AND 14:49.300 --> 14:50.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% SORRY FOR THE METAPHOR. 14:50.400 --> 14:56.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> WE SAW SLIGHT CHANGES I WOULD 14:56.500 --> 14:58.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SAY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A TASK 14:58.400 --> 14:59.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FORCE THAT CAME OUT AND THEN AN 14:59.700 --> 15:02.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% OKAY BETWEEN THE STATE AND 15:02.333 --> 15:05.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EMBRIDGE THING WE WILL SHUT IT 15:05.033 --> 15:06.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DOWN NOW IF THERE IS BAD WEATHER 15:06.666 --> 15:09.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND FEELS LIKE IT'S THE LITTLE 15:09.033 --> 15:11.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ITTY-BITTY STEPS AND MEANWHILE 15:11.366 --> 15:14.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AS WE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS PANEL 15:14.533 --> 15:15.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% BEFORE DRIP DRIP DRIP FROM 15:15.600 --> 15:19.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EMBRIDGE SAYING ONE THING AND 15:19.266 --> 15:20.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SOMETIMES WEEKS AND MONTHS LATER 15:20.666 --> 15:22.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WE FIND OUT STILL WHAT THEY ARE 15:22.233 --> 15:23.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% SAYING IS A LITTLE BIT OF 15:23.533 --> 15:25.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CORROSION THE SIZE OF AN INCH IS 15:25.266 --> 15:26.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SUDDENLY THE SIZE OF A PLATE AND 15:26.933 --> 15:28.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OH, THIS IS NOT QUITE WHAT WE 15:28.800 --> 15:29.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THOUGHT IT WAS INITIALLY AND 15:29.866 --> 15:31.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS IT 15:31.566 --> 15:32.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% SEEMS LIKE AND I THINK IT'S 15:32.966 --> 15:34.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ABSOLUTELY GOING IN A 2018 15:34.300 --> 15:35.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO 15:35.766 --> 15:36.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% BECOME A PART OF THE 15:36.866 --> 15:38.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% GUBERNATORIAL RACE, BILL 15:38.300 --> 15:39.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SCHUETTE TALKED ABOUT IT SAYING 15:39.700 --> 15:45.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% EMBRIDGE LINE FIVE DAYS ARE 15:45.133 --> 15:47.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% NUMBERED AND THAT IS GOING TO BE 15:47.633 --> 15:49.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% A CONTINUED STORY IN THE NEW 15:49.000 --> 15:49.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% YEAR. 15:49.833 --> 15:51.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> FEELS LIKE A YEAR WHERE THE 15:51.233 --> 15:52.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ACTIVISTS WHO WANT THE PIPELINE 15:52.400 --> 15:56.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TO BE CLOSED GAINED THE MOMENTUM 15:56.500 --> 15:58.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AND STILL STRUGGLING TO GET 15:58.900 --> 16:01.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TRACTION BUT EMBRIDGE WITH A 16:01.533 --> 16:03.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LITANY OF DISCLOSURES THEY HAD 16:03.600 --> 16:04.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% NOT BEEN STRAIGHT WITH THE 16:04.566 --> 16:06.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THE SITUATION 16:06.366 --> 16:09.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WAS NOW THE YEAR ENDS AND THEY 16:09.100 --> 16:10.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ARE UNDER HEAVY CRITICISM FROM 16:10.600 --> 16:11.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE SNYDER ADMINISTRATION WHICH 16:11.866 --> 16:13.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HAS NOT BEEN VERY CRITICAL FOR 16:13.533 --> 16:14.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEM AT THE START OF THE YEAR 16:14.633 --> 16:16.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE THE 16:16.066 --> 16:17.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MOMENTUM HAS REALLY TURNED ON 16:17.533 --> 16:19.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THIS AND SOME HUGE DECISIONS 16:19.666 --> 16:21.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AWAIT NEXT YEAR ON THE FATE OF 16:21.066 --> 16:21.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:7.5% IT. 16:21.500 --> 16:24.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> EMBRIDGE BECAME ITS OWN WORST 16:24.866 --> 16:26.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ENEMY WITH THE PUBLIC DISPUTE 16:26.066 --> 16:27.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WITH THE SNYDER ADMINISTRATION 16:27.333 --> 16:28.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% DID NOT HELP THEM. 16:28.400 --> 16:31.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% >> THE ETCHU STORY. 16:31.966 --> 16:33.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY OVER 16:33.133 --> 16:34.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% AT THIS POINT. 16:34.466 --> 16:38.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IT DIDN'T TURN OUT TO BE THE 16:38.466 --> 16:39.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% STORY THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT IT 16:39.533 --> 16:40.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% MIGHT BE. 16:40.100 --> 16:41.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WHERE DID YOU THINK THAT WAS 16:41.333 --> 16:41.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% HEADED? 16:41.866 --> 16:43.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS HEADED 16:43.266 --> 16:44.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ANYWHERE AND I SAID SO ON THIS 16:44.833 --> 16:45.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% PROGRAM. 16:45.200 --> 16:45.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% >> YOU DID. 16:45.700 --> 16:47.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> MOST PEOPLE DISAGREED WITH ME 16:47.100 --> 16:48.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND THEY SAID THIS THING COULD 16:48.800 --> 16:50.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GET WORSE AND IT'S BAD AND IT 16:50.866 --> 16:53.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HASN'T BEEN HANDLED WELL MAYBE 16:53.300 --> 16:54.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE BUT 16:54.766 --> 16:56.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% NOTHING REALLY CAME OF IT. 16:56.033 --> 16:58.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> I THINK THIS WAS ANOTHER 16:58.200 --> 17:00.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% STORY AND PUT A REMINDER THIS IS 17:00.033 --> 17:01.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE DIRECTOR OF THE MICHIGAN 17:01.266 --> 17:03.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% STATE POLICE WHO POSTED ON 17:03.666 --> 17:06.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% FACEBOOK ON HER PRIVATE FACEBOOK 17:06.133 --> 17:12.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ACCOUNT SOME COMMENTS ABOUT FOLK 17:12.533 --> 17:13.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WHOSE WERE TAKING A KNEE IN 17:13.900 --> 17:15.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% PROTEST THIS IS ANOTHER 17:15.000 --> 17:16.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% INDICATION OF THE SNYDER 17:16.733 --> 17:17.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ADMINISTRATION KIND OF DRIP DRIP 17:17.833 --> 17:20.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DRIP OF NEWS THAT I CAN REMEMBER 17:20.100 --> 17:21.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WEEKS THAT WE WERE HERE TALKING 17:21.533 --> 17:22.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% ABOUT IT. 17:22.533 --> 17:24.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% >> A TWO-DAY STORY. 17:24.066 --> 17:25.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> INSTEAD I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 17:25.366 --> 17:26.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WEEKS BECAUSE FIRST IT WAS WELL 17:26.866 --> 17:28.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% WE ARE HAVING A PRIVATE 17:28.233 --> 17:29.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONVERSATION WITH HER THEN IT 17:29.833 --> 17:31.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WAS SHE MET WITH THE BLACK 17:31.300 --> 17:32.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CAUCUS THEN SHE MET WITH OTHER 17:32.766 --> 17:34.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FOLKS AND IT WAS OKAY OR COMING 17:34.633 --> 17:35.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% UP, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 17:35.566 --> 17:37.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHAT TO DO NEXT AND NOW SHE IS 17:37.100 --> 17:38.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GOING TO TAKE THIS LEAVE AND IT 17:38.500 --> 17:41.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WAS JUST SORT OF ONE DAY AFTER 17:41.200 --> 17:41.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% THE NEXT. 17:41.833 --> 17:43.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> IN ALL FAIRNESS SNYDER DID 17:43.666 --> 17:45.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STAND BEHIND HER FROM THE VERY 17:45.633 --> 17:45.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% BEGINNING. 17:45.966 --> 17:47.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% >> FROM THE GET GO. 17:47.066 --> 17:48.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% NEVER LEANED ONE WAY OR THE 17:48.666 --> 17:49.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% OTHER. 17:49.333 --> 17:49.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% >> ABSOLUTELY. 17:49.966 --> 17:52.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THE FLINT WATER INVESTIGATION 17:52.466 --> 17:54.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CONTINUED AND WE ARE MOVING INTO 17:54.200 --> 17:56.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THE THIRD YEAR, THIRD YEAR. 17:56.100 --> 17:57.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THIS COULD BLOWUP AGAIN IN THE 17:57.766 --> 17:59.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% LAST YEAR OF THE SNYDER 17:59.033 --> 18:00.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ADMINISTRATION AND IT COULD GET 18:00.066 --> 18:00.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% A LOT WORSE. 18:00.966 --> 18:02.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME I 18:02.900 --> 18:04.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% INTERVIEWED BILL SCHUETTE AND I 18:04.233 --> 18:05.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SAID DO YOU THINK WE ARE CLOSER 18:05.766 --> 18:06.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TO THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION 18:06.866 --> 18:08.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THAN THE BEGINNING AND HE SAID 18:08.366 --> 18:08.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% YES. 18:08.800 --> 18:11.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WELL IT'S NOW BEEN A FULL YEAR 18:11.233 --> 18:14.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SINCE THEN AND IT'S NOT OVER 18:14.566 --> 18:16.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE 18:16.866 --> 18:18.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% INVESTIGATION AND IT'S A LITTLE 18:18.500 --> 18:20.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% UNCLEAR YET WHERE THIS COULD YET 18:20.100 --> 18:22.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GO AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL PEOPLE 18:22.566 --> 18:25.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BEING CHARGED, YOU KNOW, THE 18:25.300 --> 18:27.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TRIAL PHASE NO ONE HAS BEEN EVEN 18:27.100 --> 18:28.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% BOUND OVER FOR TRIAL. 18:28.800 --> 18:32.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% >> PLEA DEALS. 18:32.266 --> 18:34.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> 43 WITNESSES WHEN YOU HAVE 43 18:34.633 --> 18:36.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WITNESSES IN DISTRICT COURT 18:36.100 --> 18:37.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER IT 18:37.433 --> 18:38.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SHOULD BE BOUND OVER IT'S GOING 18:38.733 --> 18:40.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TO TAKE FOREVER, THE BIG DISPUTE 18:40.533 --> 18:42.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% RIGHT NOW LEGALLY IS BILL 18:42.766 --> 18:45.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SCHUETTE HOPING TO RUN OUT THE 18:45.200 --> 18:46.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CLOCK AND MAYBE JUST HAVE THIS 18:46.900 --> 18:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THING DRIP ALL THE WAY THROUGH 18:48.266 --> 18:50.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% 2018 AND NOT REACH A CONCLUSION 18:50.833 --> 18:57.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BEFORE THE ELECTION OR LOOK IF 18:57.666 --> 18:59.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HE GETS A VERDICT BEFORE THE 18:59.600 --> 19:01.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ELECTION IT SHOULD BE A GOOD ONE 19:01.066 --> 19:03.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OR HE WILL END UP WITH A BIG 19:03.533 --> 19:04.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% LIABILITY. 19:04.333 --> 19:05.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> DO SOME OF THESE BIG 19:05.866 --> 19:08.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DEFENDANTS LIKE NICK LION HEALTH 19:08.033 --> 19:09.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AND HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR ARE 19:09.733 --> 19:12.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THEY ACTUALLY BOUND OVER FOR 19:12.233 --> 19:13.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TRIAL, THE HEARINGS TO DETERMINE 19:13.900 --> 19:15.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT ARE GOING ON AND ON AND ON 19:15.633 --> 19:18.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW IS THERE 19:18.900 --> 19:20.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% PROBABLE CAUSE THEY WERE 19:20.333 --> 19:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF 19:21.266 --> 19:25.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PEOPLE UNDER LEGIONNAIRESS THAT 19:25.100 --> 19:26.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CAN BE SOMETHING ONCE THE LOWER 19:26.833 --> 19:28.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COURT MAKES A DECISION HAS TO BE 19:28.433 --> 19:30.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% RESOLVED BY THE SUPREME COURT. 19:30.933 --> 19:32.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> ABSOLUTELY I AGREE YOU CAN GO 19:32.200 --> 19:33.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND NOT 19:33.466 --> 19:34.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SURE WHICH WAY IT'S GOING TO GO 19:34.833 --> 19:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BEFORE THE END OF THE SNYDER 19:36.500 --> 19:37.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW IT'S 19:37.500 --> 19:39.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ASTERISK 19:39.500 --> 19:43.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ON HIS RESUME WHETHER OR NOT 19:43.900 --> 19:46.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THAT ASTERISKS TURNS INTO AN 19:46.733 --> 19:47.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% EXCLAMATION POINT IS THE 19:47.666 --> 19:49.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% QUESTION AND IF HIS LEGACY WILL 19:49.166 --> 19:50.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BE DEFINED BY FLINT IS STILL THE 19:50.833 --> 19:51.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% BIG QUESTION MARK. 19:51.866 --> 19:54.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT MAY TURN OUT YEARS FROM NOW 19:54.066 --> 19:56.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT WILL NOT BE BUT BY THE SAME 19:56.900 --> 19:58.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TOKEN IT COULD BLOWUP AS YOU 19:58.566 --> 20:00.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% SAID RIGHT IN HIS FACE AND 20:00.066 --> 20:01.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HE MAY HAVE 20:01.300 --> 20:03.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DONE DURING HIS EIGHT YEARS THAT 20:03.200 --> 20:05.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WAS POSITIVE GETS TOTALLY OVER 20:05.400 --> 20:06.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% SHADOWED BY THIS. 20:06.633 --> 20:08.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THERE IS OF COURSE THE PEOPLE 20:08.700 --> 20:10.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OF FLINT WHO ARE LASTING EFFECTS 20:10.966 --> 20:14.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FROM LEAD POISONING I THINK THE 20:14.300 --> 20:15.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% UNDER REPORTED STORIES IS JUST 20:15.633 --> 20:17.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% HOW MUCH MONEY THIS IS COSTING 20:17.200 --> 20:18.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BOTH SIDES THAT WE ARE NOW IN 20:18.333 --> 20:21.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE EIGHT FIGURES OF LEGAL COSTS 20:21.933 --> 20:23.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS I 20:23.800 --> 20:24.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 20:24.800 --> 20:27.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% KIND OF GOES UNNOTICED, 20:27.800 --> 20:29.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% TAXPAYERS ARE NOW PAYING FOR 20:29.100 --> 20:30.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT. 20:30.666 --> 20:32.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEY ARE PAYING TO DEFEND THE 20:32.833 --> 20:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STATE AND THEY ARE ALSO PAYING 20:34.766 --> 20:38.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FOR THE SIDE WHO IS PROSECUTING 20:38.300 --> 20:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% FOLKS OF THE STATE AND TAXPAYERS 20:39.900 --> 20:41.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAVE SPENT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS 20:41.300 --> 20:43.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND THAT WILL CONTINUE ON THE 20:43.633 --> 20:45.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% LITIGATION OVER THIS CRISIS. 20:45.300 --> 20:47.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THOUGHT IS 20:47.333 --> 20:47.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% NEEDED. 20:47.700 --> 20:49.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IT'S JUST A SORT OF ISSUE OF 20:49.233 --> 20:51.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHOA, HERE IS ALL THE MONEY THAT 20:51.000 --> 20:52.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IS GOING TOWARDS PIPELINES AND 20:52.600 --> 20:54.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THINGS LIKE THAT AND ALL OF THE 20:54.100 --> 20:55.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COURT COSTS AND THAT IS GOING TO 20:55.966 --> 20:56.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% CONTINUE TOO. 20:56.666 --> 20:58.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> YOU MENTIONED MR. TRUMP I 20:58.066 --> 20:59.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HAVE SOME NUMBERS HERE WHICH 20:59.400 --> 21:02.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% REALLY ARE A MICRO CAUSM OF 21:02.700 --> 21:09.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHERE WE ARE IN MICHIGAN BERNIE 21:09.966 --> 21:11.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PORN ASKED IF THE PRESIDENT WAS 21:11.900 --> 21:14.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STABLE AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS 21:14.600 --> 21:17.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% AFRICAN/AMERICANS 69% UNSTABLE, 21:17.233 --> 21:20.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHITE 50% STABLE, RACIAL DIVIDE 21:20.766 --> 21:24.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MEN AND WOMEN, MEN 56% IS COOL, 21:24.533 --> 21:26.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% WOMEN 39%. 21:26.900 --> 21:28.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% A GENDER GAP. 21:28.333 --> 21:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% EDUCATION GAP YOU HAVE A COLLEGE 21:32.000 --> 21:33.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DEGREE 44 UNSTABLE AND LESS THAN 21:33.733 --> 21:35.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA 49% THINK 21:35.733 --> 21:36.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THE PRESIDENT IS DOING JUST 21:36.866 --> 21:37.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% FINE. 21:37.300 --> 21:39.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IS THIS NOT A REFLECTION OF WHAT 21:39.000 --> 30:29.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% HAPPENED IN THE ELECTION 30:29.000 --> 30:29.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% REGARDING STABILITY? 30:29.500 --> 30:30.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% >> THAT IS THE CLASSIC 30:30.066 --> 30:30.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% POLARIZATION THAT WE SEE ALL 30:30.733 --> 30:31.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% ACROSS AMERICA RIGHT NOW. 30:31.333 --> 30:32.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> ALIVE AND WELL IN MICHIGAN. 30:32.000 --> 30:32.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK IT'S 30:32.700 --> 30:33.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE NATION. 30:33.400 --> 30:34.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% WE HAVE A VERY POLARIZED 30:34.000 --> 30:34.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% COUNTRY, A VERY POLARIZED 30:34.600 --> 30:35.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% POLITICAL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, HOW 30:35.300 --> 30:36.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IT'S GOING TO SHAKE OUT IN 2020 30:36.033 --> 30:36.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% ONLY ANYBODY CAN GUESS. 30:36.633 --> 30:37.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> THAT IS WHAT I SAID THE TRUMP 30:37.333 --> 30:38.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% STORY KIND OF WHY I THINK IT HAS 30:38.033 --> 30:38.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ITS TENTICLES IN EVERYTHING AND 30:38.733 --> 30:39.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HOW PEOPLE TREAT EACH OTHER AND 30:39.433 --> 30:40.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THE WILLINGNESS TO FIND 30:40.000 --> 30:40.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% COMPROMISE HAS JUST IN THE PAST 30:40.700 --> 30:41.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YEAR BEEN A FASCINATING THING TO 30:41.400 --> 30:42.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WATCH BOTH IN MICHIGAN BUT 30:42.033 --> 30:42.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% NATIONWIDE. 30:42.400 --> 30:43.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW I'M 30:43.066 --> 30:43.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% RIGHT AND POLITICS IN THIS 30:43.700 --> 30:44.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% COUNTRY RIGHT NOW I'M RIGHT YOU 30:44.400 --> 30:45.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ARE CRAZY THAT IS REALLY WHERE 30:45.100 --> 30:45.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% THINGS ARE. 30:45.466 --> 30:46.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND. 30:46.133 --> 30:46.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> NO AND A CASE THAT PRESIDENT 30:46.833 --> 30:47.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TRUMP HAS SHAKEN UP THE SYSTEM 30:47.533 --> 30:48.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% AND IS SUCCESSFUL ON THE 30:48.133 --> 30:48.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% POLITICAL LEVEL BECAUSE HE IS 30:48.833 --> 30:49.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NOT YOUR NORMAL TYPE OF CHIEF 30:49.500 --> 30:50.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% EXECUTIVE OFFICER, YOU CAN ALSO 30:50.200 --> 30:50.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% LOOK ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE AND 30:50.900 --> 30:51.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% SAY HE WAS IN QUICK SAND UP 30:51.533 --> 30:52.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% UNTIL HE FINALLY GOT A BILL 30:52.166 --> 30:52.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% PASSED AT THE END OF THE YEAR 30:52.833 --> 30:53.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO SINK SO YOU 30:53.533 --> 30:54.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% CAN LOOK AT IT AT SO MANY 30:54.133 --> 30:54.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% DIFFERENT LEVELS. 30:54.600 --> 30:55.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> WHAT IS THE LEAD STORY GOING 30:55.300 --> 30:55.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% IN 2018 THE GOVERNOR WILL 30:55.900 --> 30:56.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DELIVER THE LAST STATE OF THE 30:56.566 --> 30:57.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% STATE ON JANUARY THE 23, WHAT 30:57.233 --> 30:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ARE WE LOOKING FORWARD TO? 30:57.833 --> 30:58.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> I DON'T THINK HE IS GOING TO 30:58.533 --> 30:59.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COME UP WITH ANY BOMB SHELL. 30:59.200 --> 30:59.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> INFRASTRUCTURE, 30:59.700 --> 31:00.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOW THE NUMBER 31:00.333 --> 31:00.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% ONE ISSUE IN THE STATE. 31:00.900 --> 31:01.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE 31:01.600 --> 31:02.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THOUGH BIG TIME IN THE STATE OF 31:02.300 --> 31:02.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THE STATES AND OTHERWISE. 31:02.900 --> 31:03.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THAT IS NOTHING REALLY KNEW. 31:03.533 --> 31:04.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT 31:04.233 --> 31:04.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IF HE CONCENTRATES ON IT AND BY 31:04.933 --> 31:05.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE WAY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION 31:05.633 --> 31:06.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND THE CONGRESS CAN STILL GET 31:06.333 --> 31:07.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ON THAT ISSUE AND REMEMBER MANY 31:07.033 --> 31:07.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE ONE 31:07.733 --> 31:08.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% OF THE TOP PRIORITIES. 31:08.266 --> 31:08.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND 31:08.933 --> 31:09.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEY DIDN'T BUT THEY CAN COME 31:09.633 --> 31:10.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BACK TO THAT AND THEY CAN TIE 31:10.300 --> 31:10.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% THAT IN. 31:10.600 --> 31:11.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% >> AN HO-HUM FOR YOU. 31:11.166 --> 31:11.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> ELECTION IS ELECTION AND RACE 31:11.866 --> 31:12.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% FOR GOVERNOR SECRETARY OF STATE, 31:12.566 --> 31:13.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE ENTIRE 31:13.233 --> 31:13.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, THE 31:13.900 --> 31:14.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ENTIRE STATE HOUSE, THE ENTIRE 31:14.600 --> 31:15.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% STATE SENATE THE U.S. SENATE 31:15.266 --> 31:15.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% SEAT. 31:15.533 --> 31:16.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> IN OTHER WORDS THEY DO 31:16.133 --> 31:16.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% NOTHING. 31:16.433 --> 31:17.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> IT'S HUGE BUT THAT HAS 31:17.033 --> 31:17.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% NOTHING TO DO WITH SNYDER'S 31:17.666 --> 31:18.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% STATE OF THE STATE OR THE ISSUES 31:18.366 --> 31:19.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IS 31:19.033 --> 31:19.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% GOING TO BE DOMINATING 31:19.600 --> 31:20.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EVERYTHING, THE ELECTIONS NEXT 31:20.300 --> 31:20.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% YEAR. 31:20.600 --> 31:21.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> YES, IF YOU LOOK ISN'T THIS 31:21.300 --> 31:22.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DEMOCRATIC WAVE REAL THAT SEEMS 31:22.000 --> 31:22.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TO BE BUILDING YOU LOOK AT THE 31:22.700 --> 31:23.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GENERIC BALLOT NUMBERS AROUND 31:23.366 --> 31:24.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THE COUNTRY IT'S EXTREMELY 31:24.000 --> 31:24.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% LOPSIDED IN FAVOR OF THE 31:24.600 --> 31:25.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DEMOCRATS BUT WHEN IT GETS DOWN 31:25.300 --> 31:25.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TO IT AT THE MID TERMS DO THE 31:25.966 --> 31:26.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DEMOCRATS AND ALL THE ENTHUSIASM 31:26.666 --> 31:27.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MAINTAINED AND DOES IT RESOLVE 31:27.366 --> 31:28.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN A BIG DEMOCRATIC WAVE ACROSS 31:28.066 --> 31:28.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE NATION AND IN THE STATE OR 31:28.766 --> 31:29.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% DOES IT NOT HAPPEN, DO THE 31:29.400 --> 31:30.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% REPUBLICANS STAY IN CONTROL OF 31:30.100 --> 31:30.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% STATE GOVERNMENT IN MICHIGAN AND 31:30.800 --> 31:31.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IF THAT DOES HAPPEN WHAT IS THE 31:31.500 --> 31:32.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% FUTURE OF THE MICHIGAN 31:32.066 --> 31:32.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS IT STILL 31:32.733 --> 31:33.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GOING TO BE A COMPETITIVE TWO 31:33.400 --> 31:34.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PARTY STATE BECAUSE IT WILL THEN 31:34.100 --> 31:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% BASICALLY A FULL DECADE AT 31:34.766 --> 31:35.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% REPUBLICAN DOMINANCE. 31:35.300 --> 31:35.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> EVERYTHING WILL BE TALKING 31:35.966 --> 31:36.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ABOUT THE ELECTIONS ON MULTIPLE 31:36.666 --> 31:37.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LEVELS LOOK AT THE MICHIGAN 31:37.300 --> 31:38.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DELEGATION SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN WE 31:38.000 --> 31:38.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% HAVE THREE WIDE OPEN 31:38.533 --> 31:39.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CONGRESSIONAL SEATS FOR VARIOUS 31:39.233 --> 31:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% REASONS BUT I THINK SNYDER IS 31:39.900 --> 31:40.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% GOING TO TALK ABOUT 31:40.400 --> 31:41.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK IT'S 31:41.100 --> 31:41.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. 31:41.733 --> 31:42.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WE HAVE ALL WATCHED IN OUR AREA 31:42.466 --> 31:43.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAT 15 MILE SINKHOLE THAT 31:43.100 --> 31:43.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% KANDIS MILLER WENT IN AND FIXED 31:43.800 --> 31:44.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OR CLEANED UP WHICHEVER TERM YOU 31:44.500 --> 31:45.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ARE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH THAT 31:45.200 --> 31:45.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% INCONVENIENCED A WHOLE LOT OF 31:45.866 --> 31:46.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% PEOPLE AND IMPACTED THEIR 31:46.466 --> 31:47.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EVERYDAY LIVES BUT I THINK ONE 31:47.166 --> 31:47.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THING THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING 31:47.833 --> 31:48.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ABOUT ENOUGH THAT OVER TIME THIS 31:48.533 --> 31:49.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ADMINISTRATION MAY BE KNOWN BEST 31:49.233 --> 31:49.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% FOR AND THAT IS THAT GORDY-HOW 31:49.933 --> 31:50.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND THE BRIDGE GOING ACROSS IF 31:50.633 --> 31:51.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HE GETS ALL THAT DONE YEARS FROM 31:51.333 --> 31:52.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NOW LOOK AT WHAT IT WILL DO IN 31:52.033 --> 31:52.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TERMS OF TRADE AND REVENUE AND 31:52.733 --> 31:53.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% POTENTIAL THE INTERNATIONAL LINK 31:53.433 --> 31:54.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BETWEEN DETROIT AND CANADA IT 31:54.100 --> 31:54.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% COULD BE A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT 31:54.800 --> 31:55.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% OF TRADE. 31:55.133 --> 31:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> HE DOES NOT LIKE THE TERM 31:55.833 --> 31:56.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LAME DUCK BUT THE LIMP WILL BE 31:56.533 --> 31:57.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MORE EVIDENT ON JANUARY 23 AND 31:57.233 --> 31:57.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% WE WILL SEE WHAT HE SAYS. 31:57.833 --> 31:58.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% THANK YOU GUYS. 31:58.266 --> 31:58.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY. 31:58.900 --> 31:59.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% NEXT YEAR WE ARE BACK TO THE 31:59.566 --> 32:00.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% REGULAR FORMAT SEE YOU THEN. 32:00.133 --> 32:00.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% HAVE A GOOD ONE. 32:00.566 --> 32:01.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 32:01.266 --> 32:01.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT 32:01.966 --> 32:02.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN, 32:02.566 --> 32:03.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% MICHIGAN'S ONLY BIPARTISAN 32:03.200 --> 32:03.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION FIRM 32:03.866 --> 32:04.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% SERVING STATEWIDE AND 32:04.400 --> 32:05.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 32:05.100 --> 32:05.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 32:05.800 --> 32:06.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% GRAND RAPIDS AND SERVING THE 32:06.466 --> 32:07.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GREATER LANSING AREA SINCE 1941 32:07.166 --> 32:07.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 32:07.866 --> 32:08.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 32:08.500 --> 32:09.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MICHIGAN SEASONS HAGER FOX AND 32:09.200 --> 32:09.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BRYANT WHATEVER IT TAKES HAGER 32:09.900 --> 32:10.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% FOX.COM. 32:10.200 --> 32:10.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 32:10.766 --> 32:11.366 align:start 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