1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:03,266  2 00:00:03,266 --> 00:00:04,166 WELCOME BACK. 3 00:00:04,166 --> 00:00:06,033 OUR GUEST THIS WEEK IS THE HOUSE 4 00:00:06,033 --> 00:00:07,500 DEMOCRATIC LEADER TIM GREIMEL 5 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:09,800 OUR LEAD STORY BOTH PRESIDENTIAL 6 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,366 CANDIDATES IN OUR STATE TALKING 7 00:00:11,366 --> 00:00:12,500 ABOUT THE ECONOMY. 8 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:16,566 ON THE OTR PANEL CHAD LIVE GOOD 9 00:00:16,566 --> 00:00:17,466 ROCHELLE RILEY AND BILL 10 00:00:17,466 --> 00:00:19,466 BALLENGER, SIT IN WITH US AS WE 11 00:00:19,466 --> 00:00:22,700 GET THE INSIDE OUT OFF THE 12 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:23,700 RECORD. 13 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:24,400 "PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS 14 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,100 MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY A 15 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:25,766 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN. 16 00:00:25,766 --> 00:00:26,433 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BI-PARTISAN, 17 00:00:26,433 --> 00:00:27,133 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, 18 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:27,833 SERVING STATE-WIDE, NATIONAL AND 19 00:00:27,833 --> 00:00:28,533 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THEIR 20 00:00:28,533 --> 00:00:29,233 OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 21 00:00:29,233 --> 00:00:29,633 GRAND RAPIDS. 22 00:00:29,633 --> 00:00:30,166 TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN.COM. 23 00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:30,766 HAGER FOX HEATING AND AIR 24 00:00:30,766 --> 00:00:31,433 CONDITIONING COMPANY, SERVING 25 00:00:31,433 --> 00:00:32,133 THE GREATER-LANSING AREA SINCE 26 00:00:32,133 --> 00:00:32,400 1941. 27 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,100 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES 28 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:33,733 FOR HOME COMFORT DURING ALL 29 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:34,233 MICHIGAN SEASONS. 30 00:00:34,233 --> 00:00:34,933 HAGER FOX AND BRYANT, WHATEVER 31 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:35,300 IT TAKES. 32 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:35,733 HAGER FOX.COM." 33 00:00:35,733 --> 00:00:36,300 "AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 34 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:36,866 AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL 35 00:00:36,866 --> 00:00:37,233 RESOURCES. 36 00:00:37,233 --> 00:00:37,900 TACKLING THE WORLD'S BIGGEST 37 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:38,600 PROBLEMS RELATED TO FOOD, ENERGY 38 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,133 AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 39 00:00:39,133 --> 00:00:39,833 WITH 20 MAJORS, 17 MINORS AND 12 40 00:00:39,833 --> 00:00:40,433 CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS, THE 41 00:00:40,433 --> 00:00:41,100 COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND 42 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:41,733 NATURAL RESOURCES PROVIDES 43 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:42,366 STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO 44 00:00:42,366 --> 00:01:13,866 EXCEL." 45 00:01:13,866 --> 00:01:20,566 AND NOW THIS EDITION OF OFF 46 00:01:20,566 --> 00:01:22,800 RECORD WITH TIM SKUBICK. 47 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,366 >> GOOD TO SEE YOU, BUSY WEEK 48 00:01:24,366 --> 00:01:26,633 AND ROCHELLE CAN ANYBODY 49 00:01:26,633 --> 00:01:27,300 REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD 50 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:29,333 THE TWO MAJOR PRESIDENTIAL 51 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:31,733 CANDIDATES THIS THE STATE AT THE 52 00:01:31,733 --> 00:01:33,300 SAME WEEK? 53 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:35,333 I THINK IT'S THE PRESIDENTIAL 54 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,700 DEBATE OVER AT THE WHORTON 55 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:39,966 CENTER AND HAD THEM BOTH IN TIME 56 00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:40,833 1992. 57 00:01:40,833 --> 00:01:42,366 >> 92. 58 00:01:42,366 --> 00:01:43,766 >> AND ALL THREE. 59 00:01:43,766 --> 00:01:45,000 >> ANYWAY THEY ARE BOTH THIS 60 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,800 TOWN, WHAT DID WE LEARN ABOUT 61 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,166 THEIR ECONOMIC PLANS? 62 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:49,233 >> NOT MUCH. 63 00:01:49,233 --> 00:01:51,133 I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS 64 00:01:51,133 --> 00:01:54,833 THE MOST SANE WE HAVE SEEN HIM 65 00:01:54,833 --> 00:01:57,433 AND GOT A SENSE HE IS ABLE TO 66 00:01:57,433 --> 00:01:58,733 HAVE A PLAN BUT DID ALL OF THAT 67 00:01:58,733 --> 00:02:00,633 GREAT PERFORMANCE AND DID IT 68 00:02:00,633 --> 00:02:02,933 DESPITE 14 PROTESTERS BEING 69 00:02:02,933 --> 00:02:04,300 REMOVED AND THEN AT THE END AND 70 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:05,900 HE SAID I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY 71 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:07,733 PLAN SOON AND I THOUGHT WELL HE 72 00:02:07,733 --> 00:02:09,600 DID OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS BUT 73 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,966 THERE WASN'T A PLAN SO I THINK 74 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:15,033 THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WHAT HIS 75 00:02:15,033 --> 00:02:16,733 HANDERS NEEDED FOR HIM TO DO AND 76 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:18,833 LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT 77 00:02:18,833 --> 00:02:20,333 CONSTANT SAYING THINGS LIKE HE 78 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:21,833 SAID HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN BUT NOT 79 00:02:21,833 --> 00:02:23,966 A PLAN. 80 00:02:23,966 --> 00:02:26,666 >> BIGGER DYNAMICS HERE TRUMP 81 00:02:26,666 --> 00:02:28,633 BUILD THE SPEECH AS A BIG 82 00:02:28,633 --> 00:02:30,366 ECONOMIC SPEECH AND ALL THE 83 00:02:30,366 --> 00:02:31,533 SUDDEN HILLARY CLINTON SCHEDULED 84 00:02:31,533 --> 00:02:34,233 A BIG SPEECH IN MICHIGAN AS WELL 85 00:02:34,233 --> 00:02:36,533 SO THE REPUBLICANS THOUGHT 86 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:37,600 HILLARY CLINTON WAS CHASING 87 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,066 DONALD TRUMP IN MICHIGAN AND 88 00:02:39,066 --> 00:02:40,666 LIKED THAT TO KEEP THEIR CHANCES 89 00:02:40,666 --> 00:02:41,833 ALIVE HERE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE 90 00:02:41,833 --> 00:02:43,500 HAVE SOME POLLING DONE RECENTLY 91 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,033 WHERE HILLARY CLINTON IS LEADING 92 00:02:45,033 --> 00:02:47,800 BY NINE POINTS AND IT'S LOOKING 93 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,333 MORE LIKE A NORMAL YEAR FOR 94 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:52,766 BARACK OBAMA WON BY 11 POINTS IN 95 00:02:52,766 --> 00:02:54,966 THE LAST ELECTION SO YOU KNOW 96 00:02:54,966 --> 00:02:55,933 DONALD TRUMP CAME IN AND TALKED 97 00:02:55,933 --> 00:02:57,633 ABOUT HIS TAX PLAN AND TALKED 98 00:02:57,633 --> 00:02:59,766 ABOUT TAKING THE INCOME TAX 99 00:02:59,766 --> 00:03:01,000 BRACKETS FROM 7-3 AND CUTTING 100 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,866 THE CORPORATE INCOME TAX ON 35 101 00:03:03,866 --> 00:03:07,366 TO 15% AND GETTING RID OF ESTATE 102 00:03:07,366 --> 00:03:08,633 TAX WHICH HILLARY CLINTON WENT 103 00:03:08,633 --> 00:03:11,600 ON THE ATTACK IN WARREN AND SAID 104 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,866 IF DONALD TRUMP IS WORTH 10 105 00:03:12,866 --> 00:03:14,566 MILLION IF YOU GET RID OF THE 106 00:03:14,566 --> 00:03:16,400 TAX YOU WILL GIVE THE TRUMP KIDS 107 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,233 A 4 BILLION TAX CUT AND MORE 108 00:03:18,233 --> 00:03:19,400 INTERESTING SHE STARTED LAYING 109 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,333 OUT WAYS WE COULD SPEND THE 110 00:03:21,333 --> 00:03:23,666 TRUMP TAXES WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS 111 00:03:23,666 --> 00:03:26,366 GONE AND DEAD WHICH I FOUND WAS 112 00:03:26,366 --> 00:03:28,200 KIND OF INTERESTING DAYS AFTER 113 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,366 DONALD TRUMP WAS MAKING 114 00:03:31,366 --> 00:03:32,466 ILLUSIONS OF HILLARY CLINTON 115 00:03:32,466 --> 00:03:33,766 BEING ASSASSINATED AS PRESIDENT. 116 00:03:33,766 --> 00:03:35,700 >> SOMEONE DISAGREE WITH THAT. 117 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:37,633 >> WELL I MEAN THE DONALD TRUMP 118 00:03:37,633 --> 00:03:41,500 WAS TAKING IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW 119 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:46,000 YOU MIGHT STOP HER FROM POINTING 120 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 LIBERAL JUDGES WHO ARE ANTIGUN 121 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,066 WITH THE COURT. 122 00:03:49,066 --> 00:03:50,566 >> WHAT STRUCK ME IS I PUT 123 00:03:50,566 --> 00:03:53,700 MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF GOVERNOR 124 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:55,500 SNYDER WHO HAD TO LOOK AT BOTH 125 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:56,966 SPEECHES AND SAID TO HIMSELF 126 00:03:56,966 --> 00:03:58,433 MR. TRUMP SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE 127 00:03:58,433 --> 00:04:00,400 COLUMN BACK OF DETROIT, SHE ON 128 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,466 THE OTHER HAND WAS VERY 129 00:04:02,466 --> 00:04:06,200 SNYDER-ESQUE DID YOU CATCH THAT? 130 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,300 >> YEAH, I THINK THE ATMOSPHERE 131 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:10,466 OF IT AND ROCHELLE ALLUDED TO 132 00:04:10,466 --> 00:04:16,266 THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED UPON 133 00:04:16,266 --> 00:04:17,933 FAVORABLY BY SNYDER AND TRUMP 134 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,600 GOT THROUGH THE SPEECH WITHOUT 135 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,666 GOING MANIC AND DOING SOMETHING 136 00:04:23,666 --> 00:04:24,366 OUTRAGEOUS IS SIGNIFICANT AND I 137 00:04:24,366 --> 00:04:26,366 THINK THE OVER ALL CONTOURS OF 138 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:31,000 WHAT TRUMP SAID SNYDER WOULD 139 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,900 HAVE AGREED WITH, A COUPLE OF 140 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:35,866 WRINKLES CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE 141 00:04:35,866 --> 00:04:38,366 FOR HEDGE FUND MANAGERS AND 142 00:04:38,366 --> 00:04:39,800 CHILD CARE TAX CREDIT THAT IS 143 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,866 THE ONLY THING THAT WAS REALLY 144 00:04:40,866 --> 00:04:41,333 NEW. 145 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:43,066 >> LOOK BACK NOW TO LOWER THE 146 00:04:43,066 --> 00:04:44,500 THRESHOLD AND MORE PEOPLE. 147 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:45,500 >> AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT 148 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:48,100 FOREVER THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF 149 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:49,466 WAYS TO DO IT AND TAKE AN ACT OF 150 00:04:49,466 --> 00:04:50,366 CONGRESS. 151 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:51,566 >> MY POINT IS HE NEVER MADE A 152 00:04:51,566 --> 00:04:52,733 REFERENCE TO THE COME BACK OF 153 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:53,366 DETROIT. 154 00:04:53,366 --> 00:04:54,633 >> TO HE DIDN'T. 155 00:04:54,633 --> 00:04:55,533 >> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 156 00:04:55,533 --> 00:04:56,400 POSITIVE. 157 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,900 >> HE DID EVERYTHING BAD WITH 158 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:00,633 RESPECT TO DETROIT. 159 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:06,666 HE WAS PAJORITIVE AND SAID 160 00:05:06,666 --> 00:05:08,333 DETROIT IS A FAILURE AND MADE 161 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:10,333 THE CLAIM HE MADE CONSTANTLY 162 00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:11,966 THAT DEMOCRATIC POLITICS RUINED 163 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:13,266 OUR BIG CITIES AND THIS IS WHAT 164 00:05:13,266 --> 00:05:15,500 HE HAS BEEN SAYING ALL YEAR LONG 165 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:18,866 AND ALL HE DID WAS BRING IT IN 166 00:05:18,866 --> 00:05:20,766 DETROIT AND SAID IT THERE AND 167 00:05:20,766 --> 00:05:22,366 SHOWED HIM TO BE A LITTLE TONE 168 00:05:22,366 --> 00:05:22,766 DEAF. 169 00:05:22,766 --> 00:05:24,800 >> MAYBE HE DOESN'T GET THE FREE 170 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,566 PRESS AND THE DETROIT NEWS AND 171 00:05:26,566 --> 00:05:28,800 MAYBE HE MISSED THAT. 172 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,200 >> BY TELEVISION AND DOESN'T GET 173 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,100 ANY PAPERS. 174 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:33,000 >> THERE YOU GO, WHAT ABOUT 175 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,266 THIS? 176 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:37,333 >> WELL I MEAN THE THING IS HE 177 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:38,700 TRASHES DETROIT AND RUNNING THE 178 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:40,600 GROUND BY DEMOCRATS AND THIS IS 179 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,633 A POPULAR NOTION AND 180 00:05:42,633 --> 00:05:44,400 CONSERVATIVE CIRCLES AND WANT TO 181 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,333 HEAR THAT, THAT IS SORT OF THE 182 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:50,433 RED MEAT THAT HE WANTS TO LINK 183 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:52,133 NAFTA SPECIFICALLY AND TRADE 184 00:05:52,133 --> 00:05:53,400 POLICIES AS PART OF THE 185 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,466 DESTRUCTION OF DETROIT AND 186 00:05:55,466 --> 00:05:59,966 BECAUSE NAFTA AND TRADE POLICIES 187 00:05:59,966 --> 00:06:02,266 ARE ESSENTIALLY A BIG WEIGHT ON 188 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:03,766 HILLARY CLINTON'S SHOULDERS AND 189 00:06:03,766 --> 00:06:05,700 SHE DISTANCED HERSELF. 190 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:06,333 >> WALKING BACK. 191 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:07,533 >> MADE IT VERY CLEAR YESTERDAY 192 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:10,500 IN THE STRONGEST WORDS YET SHE 193 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,100 WILL CONTINUE TO POSE A TRANS 194 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:14,900 PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TPP UNDER 195 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:19,400 ALL CIRCUMSTANCES AS PRESIDENT, 196 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,900 AFTER THE ELECTION AND THE 197 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:22,166 BELIEF IS THEY ARE GOING TO TALK 198 00:06:22,166 --> 00:06:23,533 ABOUT HOW THEY BOTH DON'T LIKE 199 00:06:23,533 --> 00:06:25,200 IT AND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE 200 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,466 REPUBLICAN CONGRESS ARE GOING TO 201 00:06:26,466 --> 00:06:28,500 PUSH IT THROUGH IN A LAME DUCK 202 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:30,633 SESSION SO YOU KNOW THEY WERE 203 00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:34,366 TRYING TO HAVE DIFFERENT THEMES 204 00:06:34,366 --> 00:06:37,600 BUT IT WAS INTERESTING SHE WAS 205 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,666 SOUNDER SNYDER ESQUE AND THE 206 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:42,733 STATE AND THAT IS RIGHT OUT OF 207 00:06:42,733 --> 00:06:45,900 THE SNYDER PLAY BOOK AND SO AND 208 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:47,566 DONALD TRUMP ACTED LIKE THERE 209 00:06:47,566 --> 00:06:49,433 WASN'T A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WHO 210 00:06:49,433 --> 00:06:51,166 HAD BEEN WORKING MOST OF HIS 211 00:06:51,166 --> 00:06:52,700 ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO FIX 212 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:53,566 DETROIT. 213 00:06:53,566 --> 00:06:55,533 >> HE COULD HAVE SAID REPUBLICAN 214 00:06:55,533 --> 00:06:56,866 BUSINESSMAN HELPS TO TURN THE 215 00:06:56,866 --> 00:06:57,833 ECONOMY AROUND. 216 00:06:57,833 --> 00:06:58,866 >> WE WILL DO THE SAME IN OTHER 217 00:06:58,866 --> 00:06:59,800 PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. 218 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,066 >> MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SEGUE. 219 00:07:01,066 --> 00:07:02,500 YEAH AND HE DIDN'T. 220 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:03,966 >> HE DOESN'T DO THAT TO PEOPLE 221 00:07:03,966 --> 00:07:06,066 WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN KINDLY OF HIM 222 00:07:06,066 --> 00:07:07,233 OR ENDORSED HIM. 223 00:07:07,233 --> 00:07:09,433 >> THE GOVERNOR HASN'T SAID 224 00:07:09,433 --> 00:07:10,533 SQUAT ABOUT THIS GUY. 225 00:07:10,533 --> 00:07:12,100 >> THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 226 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:13,166 >> SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE GOVERNOR 227 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,933 RIGHT NOW AND NEITHER CAMPAIGN 228 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:17,433 WANTS TO MENTION BUT WANT TO SAY 229 00:07:17,433 --> 00:07:18,666 A QUICK WORD ABOUT PLANS AND 230 00:07:18,666 --> 00:07:21,633 IDEAS AND NOT BEING FACETIOUS 231 00:07:21,633 --> 00:07:23,600 SAYING HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT A 232 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,333 PLAN, NEITHER HE OR HILLARY 233 00:07:25,333 --> 00:07:27,266 CLINTON HAS GONE PAST IDEAS. 234 00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:28,633 IT'S FINE TO HAVE IDEAS AND YOU 235 00:07:28,633 --> 00:07:29,800 MENTIONED SEVERAL OF THEM HE 236 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,633 TALKED ABOUT BUT PLANS ARE HOW 237 00:07:31,633 --> 00:07:33,166 YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THEM WORK. 238 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:34,300 WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO 239 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:37,433 ROLL BACK OBAMACARE AND NOT SURE 240 00:07:37,433 --> 00:07:39,300 HOW YOU MAKE SURE 10 MILLION 241 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:41,500 PEOPLE GET HEALTH INSURANCE AND 242 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:42,766 NOT PAYING FOR THEM IN EMERGENCY 243 00:07:42,766 --> 00:07:44,666 ROOMS I LIKE HE HAS FINALLY 244 00:07:44,666 --> 00:07:45,633 MOVED FROM JUST SAYING ANYTHING 245 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,300 TO SAYING THESE ARE SOME THINGS 246 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:48,500 THAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND NOT 247 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:49,700 SAYING HOW THEY COULD HAPPEN, 248 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:51,300 THAT IS WHERE THE PLAN COMES IN. 249 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:52,200 >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS MISSING 250 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,766 FROM ALL SPEECHES AND WE CAN 251 00:07:53,766 --> 00:07:55,366 TALK ABOUT THIS UNTIL THE COWS 252 00:07:55,366 --> 00:07:57,166 COME HOME THERE SHOULD BE A 253 00:07:57,166 --> 00:07:58,666 CAVEAT IN EVERY SPEECH AND ALL 254 00:07:58,666 --> 00:08:00,366 OF THIS IS DEPENDENT ON GETTING 255 00:08:00,366 --> 00:08:02,466 THIS THROUGH BOYS AND GIRLS THE 256 00:08:02,466 --> 00:08:03,233 CONGRESS. 257 00:08:03,233 --> 00:08:04,066 >> DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T THINK 258 00:08:04,066 --> 00:08:05,566 THERE IS A CONGRESS AND HILLARY 259 00:08:05,566 --> 00:08:06,566 CLINTON THINKS SHE IS GOING TO 260 00:08:06,566 --> 00:08:07,500 OWN IT. 261 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:08,966 >> NEITHER OF THEM ARE 262 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:11,433 DICTATORS. 263 00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:12,566 >> MEDIA SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB 264 00:08:12,566 --> 00:08:14,366 OF FOCUSING ON THAT ISSUE AND 265 00:08:14,366 --> 00:08:14,766 THEY DON'T. 266 00:08:14,766 --> 00:08:16,766 THEY CONSTANTLY PRESENT THE 267 00:08:16,766 --> 00:08:23,766 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AS AUTO 268 00:08:23,766 --> 00:08:26,600 CRATS AND WHAT IS NOT TRUE. 269 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,566 >> STRAIGHT PARTY LINE TICKET 270 00:08:28,566 --> 00:08:30,066 AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON A 271 00:08:30,066 --> 00:08:31,800 DECISION IF WHETHER OR NOT THAT 272 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,966 IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE ARE WE 273 00:08:32,966 --> 00:08:33,766 ON THAT? 274 00:08:33,766 --> 00:08:35,833 >> THEY ASKED THE 6TH CIRCUIT 275 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:37,366 COURT OF APPEARS TO MAKE AN 276 00:08:37,366 --> 00:08:38,633 EMERGENCY RULING ON TRYING TO 277 00:08:38,633 --> 00:08:40,800 HALT THE JUDGE DRAIN'S DECISION 278 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,466 IN FEDERAL COURT DOWN IN DETROIT 279 00:08:42,466 --> 00:08:44,766 TO BLOCK THE IMPLEMENTATION OF 280 00:08:44,766 --> 00:08:48,133 THE NEW LAW WHICH ENDS A STRAY 281 00:08:48,133 --> 00:08:50,833 PARTY VOTING, THIS IS A PRETTY 282 00:08:50,833 --> 00:08:52,166 CRITICAL ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS AND 283 00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:55,100 DOWN BALLOTS BECAUSE THE 284 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:58,000 STRAIGHT PARTY VOTING HAS AT 285 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,466 TIMES FAVORED DEMOCRATS WHERE 286 00:08:59,466 --> 00:09:01,500 PEOPLE CHECK OFF AND WANTED TO 287 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:03,266 VOTE ALL DEMOCRAT AND MAYBE 288 00:09:03,266 --> 00:09:05,866 DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE 289 00:09:05,866 --> 00:09:07,833 RACE AND TURN THEIR BALLOT IN SO 290 00:09:07,833 --> 00:09:10,666 REPUBLICANS TOOK THIS AWAY LAST 291 00:09:10,666 --> 00:09:13,833 DECEMBER AND AT THE TIME 292 00:09:13,833 --> 00:09:16,233 DEMOCRATS SAID IT IS A MOOD TO 293 00:09:16,233 --> 00:09:18,166 INOCCUR LATE THEMSELVES FROM 294 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:19,500 DONALD TRUMP A POTENTIAL 295 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:20,500 ELECTORAL DISASTER. 296 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,100 >> PART OF THE ARGUMENT ROCHELLE 297 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:25,300 IT DENIES AND HAVE LONG LINES IN 298 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:29,866 DETROIT AND PEOPLE WILL NOT STAY 299 00:09:29,866 --> 00:09:32,300 IN LONG LINES AND SAY YEA AND 300 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:33,700 THAT IS AN ARGUMENT. 301 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:35,300 >> ARGUMENT FOR BOTH SIDES HOW 302 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:36,300 DARE THE GOVERNMENT TELL PEOPLE 303 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:37,533 HOW TO VOTE. 304 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:38,533 ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE PEOPLE 305 00:09:38,533 --> 00:09:40,066 WHO ARE INDEPENDENT WHO WANT TO 306 00:09:40,066 --> 00:09:41,966 VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS AND 307 00:09:41,966 --> 00:09:42,833 DEMOCRATS AND ON THE OTHER HAND 308 00:09:42,833 --> 00:09:44,300 YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEY 309 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:45,700 WANT TO VOTE STRAIGHT PARTY 310 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:46,166 TICKET. 311 00:09:46,166 --> 00:09:47,433 I THINK THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE 312 00:09:47,433 --> 00:09:49,200 TO GOVERN IT IS SOMETHING THAT 313 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,533 WILL COME BACK AND HAUNT YOU. 314 00:09:50,533 --> 00:09:51,633 >> YES BUT THE REPUBLICANS SAID 315 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,666 LOOK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS 316 00:09:53,666 --> 00:09:55,633 FORCE THE ELECTORATE TO BE 317 00:09:55,633 --> 00:09:57,200 INTELLIGENT ABOUT THIS AND NOT 318 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,900 JUST VOTE STRAIGHT AND LOOK AT 319 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:01,000 CANDIDATES AND GO BACK AND 320 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,266 FORTH. 321 00:10:01,266 --> 00:10:02,966 NOT INTELLIGENT AND DOING THAT 322 00:10:02,966 --> 00:10:04,100 JUST BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO VOTE 323 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:05,700 FOR THEIR PARTY. 324 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:07,133 >> REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICANS GOT 325 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:10,566 RID OF THIS LAW BACK IN 2001 AND 326 00:10:10,566 --> 00:10:13,066 MARK BREWER DEMOCRATIC STATE 327 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:14,700 PARTY CHAIRMAN AT THAT TEAM GOT 328 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:16,266 A PETITION DRIVE AND THE PEOPLE 329 00:10:16,266 --> 00:10:19,866 SAID WE WANT STRAIGHT VOTING 330 00:10:19,866 --> 00:10:21,400 BACK SO THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY 331 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,833 SPOKEN THIS 15 YEARS AGO. 332 00:10:23,833 --> 00:10:25,066 >> BUT IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE. 333 00:10:25,066 --> 00:10:26,333 >> IT'S NOT JUST TRUMP, IT'S NOT 334 00:10:26,333 --> 00:10:26,866 JUST TRUMP. 335 00:10:26,866 --> 00:10:28,100 I MEAN THEY WANTED TO DO THIS 336 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,700 ANYWAY. 337 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:31,200 AND LOOK I'LL JUST SAY THIS 338 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,333 ROCHELLE 40 STATES DO NOT ALLOW 339 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:36,700 STRAIGHT TICKET VOTING, WE ARE 340 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:38,700 ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT DUE 341 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:39,900 AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS HAD TO 342 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:41,733 DO IS SAY LOOK WE ARE JOINING 343 00:10:41,733 --> 00:10:44,366 THE VAST MAJORITY OF STATES THAT 344 00:10:44,366 --> 00:10:45,733 DON'T ALLOW IT AND I AGREE WITH 345 00:10:45,733 --> 00:10:47,566 YOU YOU CAN SAY THE PEOPLE 346 00:10:47,566 --> 00:10:49,566 CLEARLY SAID AS THEY DID IN A 347 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:51,100 REFERENDUM THIS 2001 THEY WANT 348 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:51,866 TO KEEP IT. 349 00:10:51,866 --> 00:10:52,933 >> I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE 350 00:10:52,933 --> 00:10:54,500 THE OPTION IF YOU WANT TO VOTE 351 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:56,433 STRAIGHT PARTY YOU CAN IF YOU 352 00:10:56,433 --> 00:10:57,466 WANT TO VOTE ON BOTH SIDES YOU 353 00:10:57,466 --> 00:10:58,700 CAN DO IT, THERE IS NOTHING 354 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:01,266 WORSE THAN FORCING PEOPLE EITHER 355 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:01,566 WAY. 356 00:11:01,566 --> 00:11:03,200 THE DIFFERENCE FROM 15 YEARS AGO 357 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,566 IS THEY ADDED APPROPRIATION FROM 358 00:11:05,566 --> 00:11:07,766 THE BILL AND INOCULATED FROM 359 00:11:07,766 --> 00:11:09,166 BEING REPEALED BY VOTERS. 360 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:11,333 >> AND OF COURSE WHAT ARE THEY 361 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:11,666 CLAIMING? 362 00:11:11,666 --> 00:11:12,566 THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT IS GOING 363 00:11:12,566 --> 00:11:15,066 TO GO TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST 364 00:11:15,066 --> 00:11:17,300 TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NOT LONG 365 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:17,800 LINES. 366 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,333 >> CLAIMING. 367 00:11:18,333 --> 00:11:19,833 >> WHAT THEY DID WITH EMERGENCY 368 00:11:19,833 --> 00:11:20,900 MANAGERS IF YOU DON'T WANT THE 369 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,700 PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED FIND A WAY 370 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:27,900 TO INOCCUR LATE IT. 371 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,500 >> AND REPUBLICAN CLERKS HAVE 372 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:30,700 SAID THEY THINK THIS IS GOING TO 373 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:32,433 CAUSE VOTER CONFUSION. 374 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:33,533 >> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 40 375 00:11:33,533 --> 00:11:34,033 STATES? 376 00:11:34,033 --> 00:11:38,700 >> LOOK IN BERRIEN COUNTY THE 377 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:42,266 CLERK DOWN THERE HAS BOUGHT. 378 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:42,733 >> REPRESENTATIVE. 379 00:11:42,733 --> 00:11:45,733 >> BOUGHT 100% OF THE BALLOT OF 380 00:11:45,733 --> 00:11:47,533 REGISTERED BALLOTS AND BOUGHT 381 00:11:47,533 --> 00:11:49,533 BALLOTS FOR EVERY REGISTERED 382 00:11:49,533 --> 00:11:50,933 VOTER ANTICIPATING THEY WILL 383 00:11:50,933 --> 00:11:54,133 THROW A BUNCH OF SPOILED BALLOTS 384 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:55,766 OUT AND WHAT THE ELECTIONS 385 00:11:55,766 --> 00:11:57,100 RECORD BROUGHT UP THERE ARE 386 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,366 ICONS OF THE PARTIES ON TOP OF 387 00:11:59,366 --> 00:12:04,800 THE BALLOT AND THEY THINK THEY 388 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,200 WILL CIRCLE THE DONKEY OR THE 389 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,500 ELEPHANT AND SPOIL THEIR BALLOT 390 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:11,366 AND CAUSE BACKUPS AND CONFUSION 391 00:12:11,366 --> 00:12:11,766 AT THE POLL. 392 00:12:11,766 --> 00:12:13,033 >> THE CLOCK IS TICKING 393 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:14,833 SEPTEMBER 9 IS THE DROP DEAD 394 00:12:14,833 --> 00:12:15,233 DATE. 395 00:12:15,233 --> 00:12:16,766 >> GOT TO BE DONE FAST ONE WAY 396 00:12:16,766 --> 00:12:17,700 OR THE OTHER. 397 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,600 THEN YOU ARE TALKING OVER SEA 398 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,166 BALLOTING AND ALSO TALKED TO 399 00:12:21,166 --> 00:12:22,700 CHRIS THOMAS AND SAID DO YOU 400 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:24,300 KNOW WHAT IF THE COURT RULES ON 401 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,700 OCTOBER 1 WE WILL FIND A WAY TO 402 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:27,233 DO IT. 403 00:12:27,233 --> 00:12:28,533 >> THEY WILL HAVE TO DO IT. 404 00:12:28,533 --> 00:12:29,800 >> IT WILL BE A MESSAGE I THINK 405 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,900 WE WILL HEAR A DECISION HERE 406 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:32,566 WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 407 00:12:32,566 --> 00:12:34,700 HOUSE CONTROL, LET'S LOOK 408 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:36,800 QUICKLY DO THE DS HAVE A SHOT AT 409 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,700 TAKING BACK CONTROL OF THE 410 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,333 HOUSE? 411 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:38,733 >> SURE. 412 00:12:38,733 --> 00:12:40,000 >> THEY DO? 413 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,700 >> ABSOLUTELY. 414 00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:42,266 >> DEFINITELY. 415 00:12:42,266 --> 00:12:44,566 >> LET'S SEE IF MR. GREIMEL 416 00:12:44,566 --> 00:12:46,433 AGREES PLEASE. 417 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:47,666 >> REPRESENTATIVE TIM GREIMEL IS 418 00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:49,300 THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND 419 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:51,133 NOW IN HIS THIRD TERM FROM 420 00:12:51,133 --> 00:12:53,333 OAKLAND COUNTY, A FORMER COUNTY 421 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:54,166 COMMISSION AND A CIVIL RIGHTS 422 00:12:54,166 --> 00:12:55,500 ATTORNEY BEFORE ENTERING THE 423 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:55,833 HOUSE. 424 00:12:55,833 --> 00:12:58,700 HE HOLDS A D A&M A AND LAW 425 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:00,833 DEGREE FROM U OF M AND CURRENTLY 426 00:13:00,833 --> 00:13:02,766 BATTLING THE REPUBLICANS TO 427 00:13:02,766 --> 00:13:03,633 REGAIN CONTROL OF THE MICHIGAN 428 00:13:03,633 --> 00:13:04,533 HOUSE. 429 00:13:04,533 --> 00:13:06,266 MR. GREIMEL WHAT DID YOU PLAY IN 430 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:08,266 FOOTBALL WHAT POSITION? 431 00:13:08,266 --> 00:13:09,600 NO SOCCER YOU WERE A SOCCER 432 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,033 PLAYER. 433 00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:10,466 >> YEAH. 434 00:13:10,466 --> 00:13:11,700 >> WERE YOU GOOD? 435 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:14,266 >> I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. 436 00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:16,666 [LAUGHTER] 437 00:13:16,666 --> 00:13:18,633 I WAS, YEAH, PLAYED FORWARD, 438 00:13:18,633 --> 00:13:21,533 STRIKER. 439 00:13:21,533 --> 00:13:23,800 >> REPRESENTATIVE WHAT IS THE 440 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,366 PATHWAY FORWARD FOR YOU TO AND 441 00:13:26,366 --> 00:13:27,633 THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS TO WIN 442 00:13:27,633 --> 00:13:31,166 CONTROL GAIN THE SEATS THAT YOU 443 00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:33,733 NEED AND PRESUMABLY MAKE YOU THE 444 00:13:33,733 --> 00:13:35,700 SPEAKER IN THE NEXT SECTION? 445 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:37,166 >> A LOT OF FACTORS IN OUR FAVOR 446 00:13:37,166 --> 00:13:38,366 IN THIS ELECTION AND IN 447 00:13:38,366 --> 00:13:39,466 PARTICULAR MOST OF THE TARGETED 448 00:13:39,466 --> 00:13:41,300 SEATS ARE OPEN SEATS, THE 449 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:43,133 REPUBLICANS WHO CAME IN THE 2010 450 00:13:43,133 --> 00:13:45,533 WAIVE YEAR ARE TERM LIMITED OUT 451 00:13:45,533 --> 00:13:47,800 OF OFFICE, IT'S EASIER TO RUN AN 452 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,666 OPEN SEAT THAN AGAINST AN 453 00:13:49,666 --> 00:13:50,800 INCUMBENT. 454 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,466 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND WE 455 00:13:51,466 --> 00:13:52,433 KNOW IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 456 00:13:52,433 --> 00:13:53,566 DEMOCRATIC TURN OUT IS 457 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:54,233 SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. 458 00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:57,366 WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HIGHER 459 00:13:57,366 --> 00:13:59,766 BUT HIGHER THAN A GUBERNATORIAL 460 00:13:59,766 --> 00:14:01,166 YEAR AND PERHAPS MOST 461 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:02,266 IMPORTANTLY WE HAVE CANDIDATES 462 00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:05,366 WORKING INCREDIBLY HARD WHO HAVE 463 00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:06,800 DEEP ROOTS IN COMMUNITIES AND 464 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,566 OUT THERE KNOCKING ON DOORS AND 465 00:14:08,566 --> 00:14:09,833 THAT WILL ALLOW US TO REALLY 466 00:14:09,833 --> 00:14:12,266 TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DAMAGED 467 00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:14,400 REPUBLICAN BRAND IN THIS STATE. 468 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,900 THE REPUBLICAN BRAND IN MICHIGAN 469 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:17,366 HAS BEEN BADLY DAMAGED BOTH 470 00:14:17,366 --> 00:14:19,400 BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP'S 471 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,766 CANDIDACY FOR PRESIDENCY AND 472 00:14:20,766 --> 00:14:22,466 ALSO BECAUSE OF THE FAILURES OF 473 00:14:22,466 --> 00:14:23,800 THE SNYDER ADMINISTRATION 474 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,300 WHETHER IT'S THE FLINT TRAGEDY, 475 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:27,600 WHETHER IT'S THE NEGLECT OF 476 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,233 VETERANS AT THE STATE OWNED 477 00:14:29,233 --> 00:14:30,500 GRAND RAPIDS VETERANS HOME, 478 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,433 WHETHER IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE 479 00:14:32,433 --> 00:14:33,933 STATE CREATED EDUCATIONAL 480 00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:35,700 ACHIEVEMENT AUTHORITY IN 481 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:36,000 DETROIT. 482 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,966 WE HAVE SEEN FAILURE AFTER 483 00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:38,900 FAILURE IN THE SNYDER 484 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:39,366 ADMINISTRATION. 485 00:14:39,366 --> 00:14:40,300 PEOPLE ARE FED UP. 486 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,133 THEY WANT CHANGE AND THEY WANT 487 00:14:42,133 --> 00:14:43,400 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING 488 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,666 OUR STATE IN A DIFFERENT 489 00:14:45,666 --> 00:14:47,666 DIRECTION AND FED UP WITH A 490 00:14:47,666 --> 00:14:48,600 PARTY CONTROL IN LANSING. 491 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,300 >> HOW DO YOU USE THOSE ISSUES 492 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:51,100 THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN 493 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:53,933 LANSING AND ALSO JUST THE DONALD 494 00:14:53,933 --> 00:14:55,200 TRUMP CANDIDACY HOW DO YOU USE 495 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,633 THAT AGAINST A NEW CANDIDATE WHO 496 00:14:58,633 --> 00:15:00,933 IS RUNNING FOR THE FIRST TIME AS 497 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:03,600 A REPUBLICAN AND IN ONE OF THESE 498 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,766 SEATS WHY SHOULD THEY BE 499 00:15:05,766 --> 00:15:07,066 TARNISHED BY WHAT HAPPENED TO 500 00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:09,033 RICK SNYDER IN THIS LEGISLATURE? 501 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:09,233 . 502 00:15:09,233 --> 00:15:11,133 WE HAVE SEEN THE REPUBLICAN 503 00:15:11,133 --> 00:15:12,266 MAJORITY AND THE STATE HOUSE 504 00:15:12,266 --> 00:15:14,466 HAVE FAILED TO REALLY HOLD 505 00:15:14,466 --> 00:15:15,800 GOVERNOR SNYDER ACCOUNTABLE SO 506 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,866 THEY HAVE FAILED TO PUSH FOR 507 00:15:18,866 --> 00:15:20,766 GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND 508 00:15:20,766 --> 00:15:21,500 ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE 509 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,766 LEGISLATIVE BRAND AND IN THE 510 00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:25,300 GOVERNORSHIP, WE ARE ONE OF ONLY 511 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:26,700 TWO STATES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY 512 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:28,033 THAT DOESN'T APPLY THE FREEDOM 513 00:15:28,033 --> 00:15:29,266 OF INFORMATION ACT TO THE 514 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:31,066 GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE 515 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:31,500 LEGISLATURE. 516 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:32,766 >> DO YOU THINK THE AVERAGE 517 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:34,533 VOTER AT HOME GOES TO BED AT 518 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:36,400 NIGHT OH, MY GOD WE DON'T HAVE 519 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,633 FOIA FOR THE GOVERNOR. 520 00:15:38,633 --> 00:15:41,300 >> AVERAGE VOTER SAYS WE NEED 521 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:42,400 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY 522 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,700 AND THAT THE FREEDOM OF 523 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:45,700 INFORMATION ACT IS A KEY 524 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:46,766 COMPONENT TO THAT AND PEOPLE 525 00:15:46,766 --> 00:15:48,133 HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THE 526 00:15:48,133 --> 00:15:49,066 GOVERNMENT IS DOING AND IN 527 00:15:49,066 --> 00:15:50,533 MICHIGAN BECAUSE WE PUT ROAD 528 00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:51,633 BLACKS UP IT ALLOWS THE 529 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:52,733 GOVERNMENT TO GET AWAY WITH 530 00:15:52,733 --> 00:15:55,633 THINGS LIKE NEGLECTING PEOPLE IN 531 00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:57,466 FLINT AND NEGLECTS STUDENTS IN 532 00:15:57,466 --> 00:16:00,266 DETROIT AND NEGLECTS VETS IN 533 00:16:00,266 --> 00:16:01,366 GRAND RAPIDS AND NEED IT TO 534 00:16:01,366 --> 00:16:02,400 SHINE ON STATE GOVERNMENT AND I 535 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,633 THINK THE VOTERS CARE ABOUT 536 00:16:04,633 --> 00:16:05,200 THAT. 537 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,233 >> MR. GREIMEL IF YOU GET 538 00:16:06,233 --> 00:16:07,500 CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OBVIOUSLY 539 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,500 WHAT YOU CAN DO IS THROW A 540 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,300 MONKEY WRENCH IN AN ATTEMPT BY A 541 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:12,533 REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OR 542 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:14,266 REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SENATE TO 543 00:16:14,266 --> 00:16:16,200 PASS STUFF YOU DON'T LIKE BUT 544 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,400 REALISTICALLY WHAT COULD YOU 545 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,633 REALLY BY YOURSELF EXPECT TO BE 546 00:16:20,633 --> 00:16:21,700 ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHEN YOU'VE 547 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:23,333 GOT THE TWO OTHER LEGS OF THE 548 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:25,366 STOOL AGAINST YOU? 549 00:16:25,366 --> 00:16:27,500 >> WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY 550 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:29,366 WOULD BE AGAINST US ON A NUMBER 551 00:16:29,366 --> 00:16:29,833 OF ISSUES. 552 00:16:29,833 --> 00:16:30,300 >> LIKE WHAT? 553 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:30,666 . 554 00:16:30,666 --> 00:16:32,633 >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAST YEAR 555 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:34,100 FOR EXAMPLE, BILL, AND YOU LOOK 556 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:36,600 AT THE ROADS ISSUE, IF YOU LOOK 557 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,200 AT THE DETROIT EDUCATION 558 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,366 COMMISSION ISSUE AND THE DETROIT 559 00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:41,466 PUBLIC SCHOOLS ISSUE, TIME AND 560 00:16:41,466 --> 00:16:43,666 TIME AGAIN HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE 561 00:16:43,666 --> 00:16:45,100 BEEN IN AGREEMENT WITH THE 562 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:46,300 GOVERNOR, HAVE BEEN IN AGREEMENT 563 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:47,900 WITH SENATE REPUBLICANS ABOUT 564 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,666 THE NEED TO COME UP AND PASS 565 00:16:50,666 --> 00:16:51,733 RESPONSIBLE POLICY. 566 00:16:51,733 --> 00:16:53,566 IT'S BEEN THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS 567 00:16:53,566 --> 00:16:55,300 WHO HAVE REALLY BEEN MUCH MORE 568 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:57,266 RIGHT WING THAN THE SENATE 569 00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:59,333 REPUBLICANS OR THE GOVERNOR AND 570 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:01,433 HAVE STOOD IN THE WAY OF A LOT 571 00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:02,866 OF COMMON SENSE POLICIES. 572 00:17:02,866 --> 00:17:04,100 >> IF YOU WERE SPEAKER WOULD YOU 573 00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:05,800 GO BACK AND FIX THE DETROIT 574 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,233 PUBLIC SCHOOLS LEGISLATION TO 575 00:17:07,233 --> 00:17:08,966 ADD THE EDUCATION COMMISSION? 576 00:17:08,966 --> 00:17:09,900 >> I THINK THAT IS VERY 577 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:10,733 IMPORTANT. 578 00:17:10,733 --> 00:17:12,366 I'VE BEEN ON RECORD SAYING THAT 579 00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:14,100 BEFORE AND THE GOVERNOR HAS AS 580 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,633 WELL BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE 581 00:17:15,633 --> 00:17:19,133 THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE AN 582 00:17:19,133 --> 00:17:19,733 ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM FOR 583 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:20,600 CHARTER SCHOOLS. 584 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,700 HIGH PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOLS 585 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:23,766 SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO PERFORM 586 00:17:23,766 --> 00:17:25,300 AND PROLIFERATE IN THE CITY OF 587 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,166 DETROIT BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LOW 588 00:17:27,166 --> 00:17:29,666 PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOLS 589 00:17:29,666 --> 00:17:30,900 FAILING STUDENTS WE NEED TO PUT 590 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:32,266 ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES IN PLACE 591 00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:33,333 AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT 592 00:17:33,333 --> 00:17:34,266 CONTINUING TO GROW AND THEY ARE 593 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:36,266 NOT CREATING DUPLICATE FAILURES 594 00:17:36,266 --> 00:17:37,566 IN THE CITY OF DETROIT AND ARE 595 00:17:37,566 --> 00:17:38,966 JUST GOING TO FAIL DETROIT 596 00:17:38,966 --> 00:17:40,033 SCHOOL CHILDREN. 597 00:17:40,033 --> 00:17:41,666 ASK MY THREE QUESTIONS THE FIRST 598 00:17:41,666 --> 00:17:42,466 HAS TO DO WITH EDUCATION BECAUSE 599 00:17:42,466 --> 00:17:44,300 THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT HAS 600 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:47,400 ALREADY EXPRESSED THE NEED FOR 601 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,566 MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND FOR MORE 602 00:17:50,566 --> 00:17:51,866 FUNDING BECAUSE MICHIGAN SCHOOLS 603 00:17:51,866 --> 00:17:53,600 AND MICHIGAN STUDENTS ARE NOT 604 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,233 GETTING WHAT THEY NEED AND 605 00:17:54,233 --> 00:17:55,766 UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A 606 00:17:55,766 --> 00:17:58,500 LEGISLATURE THAT JUST PAYS LIP 607 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,233 SERVICE TO WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR 608 00:18:00,233 --> 00:18:01,300 EDUCATION IN MICHIGAN, HOW WOULD 609 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:02,433 THAT BE DIFFERENT UNDER A 610 00:18:02,433 --> 00:18:03,633 DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE? 611 00:18:03,633 --> 00:18:04,066 . 612 00:18:04,066 --> 00:18:05,533 >> WELL, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH 613 00:18:05,533 --> 00:18:08,766 YOUR OBSERVATIONS AND TWO THINGS 614 00:18:08,766 --> 00:18:14,866 NUMBER ONE WE FINALLY HAVE AN 615 00:18:14,866 --> 00:18:17,600 ADEQUACY STUDY OF FUNDING OF 616 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,366 EDUCATION AND NEED TO MAKE SURE 617 00:18:18,366 --> 00:18:20,233 WE ARE QUICKLY I'M MING THE 618 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:20,933 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT STUDY. 619 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:22,600 THERE CERTAINLY ARE VERY WELL 620 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,233 FUNDED SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE 621 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:25,033 STATE OF MICHIGAN BUT THERE ARE 622 00:18:25,033 --> 00:18:27,433 FAR TOO MANY UNDER FUNDED SCHOOL 623 00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:28,466 DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF 624 00:18:28,466 --> 00:18:28,833 MICHIGAN. 625 00:18:28,833 --> 00:18:30,266 WE NEED TO BRING THAT FUNDING UP 626 00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:32,266 TO THE ADEQUATE LEVEL IDENTIFIED 627 00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:33,833 IN THAT STUDY. 628 00:18:33,833 --> 00:18:35,666 NUMBER TWO WE DO NEED MORE 629 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:36,833 ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SCHOOLS AND 630 00:18:36,833 --> 00:18:39,866 NEED MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR 631 00:18:39,866 --> 00:18:41,766 TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND 632 00:18:41,766 --> 00:18:43,666 CHARTER SCHOOLS ANY SCHOOL THAT 633 00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:45,033 IS RECEIVING TAXPAYER MONEY 634 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:47,233 NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR 635 00:18:47,233 --> 00:18:48,233 RESULTS IN THE CLASSROOM. 636 00:18:48,233 --> 00:18:50,266 >> SORRY THE SECOND QUESTION IS 637 00:18:50,266 --> 00:18:51,266 A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION THAT CHAD 638 00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:52,700 ASKED WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN MY 639 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:54,800 SAME QUESTION HOW DO YOU 640 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,400 CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT DONALD 641 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,266 TRUMP AND RICK SNYDER ARE 642 00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:01,633 REPRESENTATIVES OF A PARTY THAT 643 00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:04,366 QUITE FRANKLY HAVE GOP MEMBERS 644 00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:06,000 WHO ARE SANE AND HAVE NOT 645 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,633 POISONED WATER IN FLINT AND A 646 00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:11,733 BIG JUMP THAT DEMOCRATS CAN DO 647 00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:13,233 BETTER OR SOMEONE CAN DO BETTER 648 00:19:13,233 --> 00:19:14,866 THAN THESE TWO GENTLEMAN, IS 649 00:19:14,866 --> 00:19:19,800 THAT A STRATEGY AND HOW DO YOU 650 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,633 ACTUALLY DO THAT? 651 00:19:20,633 --> 00:19:21,633 >> THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE 652 00:19:21,633 --> 00:19:23,266 ALREADY DONE IT THEMSELVES. 653 00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:24,166 CERTAINLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL 654 00:19:24,166 --> 00:19:26,700 YEARS THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE 655 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,466 RELIGION PURPOSE TIED THEMSELVES 656 00:19:28,466 --> 00:19:30,333 TO GOVERNOR SNYDER, THEY 657 00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:32,300 CONTINUE TO DO SO IN A NUMBER OF 658 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:32,566 WAYS. 659 00:19:32,566 --> 00:19:34,133 WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP 660 00:19:34,133 --> 00:19:36,233 SOME OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS 661 00:19:36,233 --> 00:19:38,466 ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP EVEN IN THE 662 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:40,700 REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND NOW HAVE 663 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,933 IN MANY INSTANCES COME OUT AND 664 00:19:42,933 --> 00:19:44,233 ENDORSED HIM IN THE GENERAL 665 00:19:44,233 --> 00:19:46,600 ELECTION, HAVE STOOD WITH HIM AT 666 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,766 RALLIES AND ARE OPENLY 667 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:50,266 ASSOCIATING THEMSELVES WITH HIM 668 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:51,866 SO CERTAINLY SOME REPUBLICANS 669 00:19:51,866 --> 00:19:53,733 HAVE DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM 670 00:19:53,733 --> 00:19:56,233 TRUMP BUT MOST HAVE NOT. 671 00:19:56,233 --> 00:19:59,266 AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT I 672 00:19:59,266 --> 00:20:00,766 THINK WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF 673 00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:02,500 THE PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN IN THE 674 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:04,566 SNYDER ADMINISTRATION WE'VE SEEN 675 00:20:04,566 --> 00:20:06,166 HOUSE REPUBLICANS NOT ONLY NOT 676 00:20:06,166 --> 00:20:07,700 STAND UP AND OPPOSE THE 677 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:09,900 PROBLEMS, NOT ONLY FAIL TO HOLD 678 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:12,300 THE GOVERNOR ACCOUNTABLE BUT WE 679 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:13,666 HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THEM FURTHER 680 00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:15,033 SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE 681 00:20:15,033 --> 00:20:15,366 SEEN. 682 00:20:15,366 --> 00:20:16,833 THE CASE IN POINT IS THE FACT 683 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:19,866 THAT SNYDER IS USING STATE 684 00:20:19,866 --> 00:20:21,266 TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PAY A 685 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:22,766 CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR 686 00:20:22,766 --> 00:20:24,600 HIMSELF AND HIS ADMINISTRATION 687 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,800 IN THE FLINT WATER TRAGEDY AND 688 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,366 DOING THAT BASED ON THE BUDGET 689 00:20:30,366 --> 00:20:32,266 THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS PASSED. 690 00:20:32,266 --> 00:20:33,800 WE CALLED TIME AND TIME AGAIN 691 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,300 AND OFFERED AMENDMENTS TO 692 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,933 PREVENT THAT BUDGET FROM BEING 693 00:20:36,933 --> 00:20:38,666 USED TO FUND THAT ATTORNEY AND 694 00:20:38,666 --> 00:20:39,766 THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS SAID THEY 695 00:20:39,766 --> 00:20:41,500 ARE OKAY WITH TAXPAYERS FUNDING 696 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,833 THE ATTORNEY, THE CRIMINAL 697 00:20:42,833 --> 00:20:44,300 DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR RICK 698 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:45,533 SNYDER, THAT IS WRONG. 699 00:20:45,533 --> 00:20:48,400 >> IS HILLARY CLINTON AN ASSET 700 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,766 FOR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IN 701 00:20:50,766 --> 00:20:51,100 MICHIGAN? 702 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,133 >> WELL I THINK IT'S PRETTY 703 00:20:52,133 --> 00:20:54,300 CLEAR THAT BOTH HILLARY CLINTON 704 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,233 AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE 705 00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:59,666 SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVES EMPLOYING 706 00:20:59,666 --> 00:21:00,533 PUBLIC PERCEPTION. 707 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:02,600 I DO THINK AT THE SAME TIME ONE 708 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,366 OF THE CANDIDATES AND IN 709 00:21:03,366 --> 00:21:05,233 PARTICULAR HAVE COMPLETELY GONE 710 00:21:05,233 --> 00:21:08,300 BEYOND THE PAIL IN TERMS OF HIS 711 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:11,366 PUBLIC RHETORIC, IN TERMS OF HIS 712 00:21:11,366 --> 00:21:13,233 PERSONA AND DONALD TRUMP 713 00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:14,700 DEMONSTRATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN 714 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:15,866 HE DOES NOT HAVE THE TEMPERMENT 715 00:21:15,866 --> 00:21:17,333 OR THE EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL 716 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,666 STABILITY TO BE THE COMMANDER IN 717 00:21:19,666 --> 00:21:20,333 CHIEF 718 00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:21,066 >> MENTAL. 719 00:21:21,066 --> 00:21:22,333 >> THAT IS RIGHT AND AS A 720 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:22,633 RESULT. 721 00:21:22,633 --> 00:21:23,533 >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 722 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:25,566 >> I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS THAT HE 723 00:21:25,566 --> 00:21:27,966 REALLY FLIES OFF THE HANDLE AND 724 00:21:27,966 --> 00:21:31,300 HAS SHOWN PERSONALITY AND MOOD 725 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:32,866 SWINGS THAT FRANKLY ARE 726 00:21:32,866 --> 00:21:34,600 DANGEROUS AND I THINK BECAUSE OF 727 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,666 THAT DANGEROUS TEMPERMENT WE SEE 728 00:21:37,666 --> 00:21:38,666 HILLARY CLINTON OPENING UP A 729 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:40,500 VERY LARGE LEAD IN MICHIGAN AND 730 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,800 DEPENDING ON THE POLLS IT'S 731 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,300 ANYWHERE FROM 9-11 POINTS. 732 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:45,633 >> AREN'T YOU ARE ATTORNEY? 733 00:21:45,633 --> 00:21:46,833 YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHIATRIST, ARE 734 00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:47,333 YOU? 735 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:49,333 >> I THINK ANY FAIR OBSERVER 736 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:51,433 CHAD WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 737 00:21:51,433 --> 00:21:52,900 SOMEBODY LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO 738 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:56,133 HAS CALLED MEXICANS RACIST AND 739 00:21:56,133 --> 00:21:58,433 KICKED BABIES OUT OF HIS RALLIED 740 00:21:58,433 --> 00:22:00,833 AND COZIED UP TO RUSSIAN 741 00:22:00,833 --> 00:22:04,066 DICTATOR VLADIMIR PUTIN AND 742 00:22:04,066 --> 00:22:05,233 VIOLENCE SHOULD BE USED AGAINST 743 00:22:05,233 --> 00:22:06,466 A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND 744 00:22:06,466 --> 00:22:08,800 MOST RECENTLY MADE THE WILD 745 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,133 ACCUSATION THAT OBAMA AND 746 00:22:12,133 --> 00:22:13,566 CLINTON SOMEHOW CREATED I.S.I.S. 747 00:22:13,566 --> 00:22:14,700 AND TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO 748 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:17,266 IS COMPLETELY BEYOND THE PAIL OF 749 00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:19,866 COMMON DECENCY, COMMON SENSE AND 750 00:22:19,866 --> 00:22:20,300 RATIONALITY. 751 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:21,266 >> WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT THERE 752 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:23,700 WAS LEAD IN THE WATER IN FLINT? 753 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:25,133 >> WELL I FOUND OUT WHEN IT 754 00:22:25,133 --> 00:22:27,800 BECAME PUBLIC IN THE MEDIA AND 755 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,900 YOU KNOW I THINK MANY OF MY 756 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:32,500 COLLEAGUES ESPECIALLY FROM THE 757 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,633 CITY OF FLINT HAD BEEN 758 00:22:34,633 --> 00:22:35,533 EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT THIS 759 00:22:35,533 --> 00:22:39,000 TO GOVERNOR SNYDER AND TO THE 760 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,866 ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE GOING 761 00:22:39,866 --> 00:22:41,800 BACK TO JANUARY OF 2015 AND 762 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,900 GETTING WARMED UP. 763 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:43,866 >> WHY DIDN'T THE HOUSE 764 00:22:43,866 --> 00:22:45,966 DEMOCRATS BASED ON THE LETTER 765 00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:47,400 AND OTHER FLINT PEOPLE WHY 766 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,033 DIDN'T YOU GUYS DO SOMETHING? 767 00:22:49,033 --> 00:22:50,633 >> WELL WE WERE. 768 00:22:50,633 --> 00:22:51,400 >> WHAT DID YOU DO? 769 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,633 >> WE TALKED PUBLICALLY ABOUT 770 00:22:55,633 --> 00:22:56,800 GETTING DOWN TO THE WATER 771 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,700 RESULTS AND WE WERE THE ONES 772 00:22:58,700 --> 00:22:59,966 DOING THAT THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS 773 00:22:59,966 --> 00:23:01,700 WEREN'T, SNYDER WASN'T. 774 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,066 SNYDER WAS GETTING REQUESTS FROM 775 00:23:03,066 --> 00:23:06,000 HOUSE DEMOCRATS WHO WERE TALKING 776 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,033 PUBLICALLY ABOUT THIS GOING 777 00:23:07,033 --> 00:23:08,833 PUBLIC SAYING THERE IS SOMETHING 778 00:23:08,833 --> 00:23:10,000 TERRIBLY WRONG WITH THE WATER IN 779 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,600 FRONT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS 780 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,233 BECAUSE WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO THE 781 00:23:13,233 --> 00:23:15,566 TEST RESULTS BUT THERE IS 782 00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:17,266 SOMETHING NOT RIGHT ABOUT WATER 783 00:23:17,266 --> 00:23:19,533 THAT IS DISCOLORED AND NEARLY 784 00:23:19,533 --> 00:23:21,066 OPAQUE IN SOME INSTANCES AND 785 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,866 ASKING PUBLICALLY FOR THIS TO BE 786 00:23:22,866 --> 00:23:24,833 FULLY INVESTIGATED AND FIXED AND 787 00:23:24,833 --> 00:23:26,133 THEY WERE CALLING ON THE 788 00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:27,700 GOVERNOR AND ON THE ATTORNEY 789 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:29,200 GENERAL TO DO SOMETHING AND I 790 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,466 THINK OF MY COLLEAGUES SHELDON 791 00:23:32,466 --> 00:23:35,500 KNEELY AND PHELPS AND ANICK 792 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:36,900 REPRESENT FLINT AND GOING BACK 793 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,566 NOW OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO 794 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:39,800 WERE SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT 795 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,500 THIS AND THE REALITY IS IT 796 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,433 WASN'T UNTIL THE NATIONAL MEDIA, 797 00:23:43,433 --> 00:23:45,266 THE NATIONAL MEDIA STARTED 798 00:23:45,266 --> 00:23:47,666 REALLY HOLDING THIS 799 00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:48,400 ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE THAT 800 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,766 WE SAW SOME MOVEMENT FINALLY IN 801 00:23:51,766 --> 00:23:53,300 A POSITIVE DIRECTION. 802 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,100 >> DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION 803 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,133 WITH THE GOVERNOR? 804 00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:55,333 . 805 00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:56,533 >> I DID NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION 806 00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:57,666 WITH THE GOVERNOR. 807 00:23:57,666 --> 00:23:59,633 >> WHY NOT? 808 00:23:59,633 --> 00:24:00,133 >> BECAUSE THE STATE 809 00:24:00,133 --> 00:24:01,133 LEGISLATURES FROM FLINT WERE 810 00:24:01,133 --> 00:24:02,400 HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH 811 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,233 THE GOVERNOR AND WERE GETTING 812 00:24:04,233 --> 00:24:05,566 BLOWN OFF. 813 00:24:05,566 --> 00:24:06,433 >> BUT YOU ARE THE LEADER. 814 00:24:06,433 --> 00:24:07,566 >> GETTING BLOWN OFF AT SOME 815 00:24:07,566 --> 00:24:09,566 POINT WHY DIDN'T SOME OF THEIR 816 00:24:09,566 --> 00:24:11,566 COLLEAGUES STEP IN TO GO AND 817 00:24:11,566 --> 00:24:12,233 HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS 818 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:12,833 WELL? 819 00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:14,866 >> I WILL SAY THIS I DID HAVE A 820 00:24:14,866 --> 00:24:20,433 CONVERSATION WITH THE GOVERNOR 821 00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:22,300 AS PART OVER A QUADRANT MEETING 822 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:23,766 TALKING ABOUT CONNECTING THE 823 00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:24,866 FLINT WATER SYSTEM TO THE 824 00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:25,800 DETROIT WATER SYSTEM. 825 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,066 >> WHEN WAS THIS FALL OF LAST 826 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,033 YEAR? 827 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:32,233 >> THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN YES 828 00:24:32,233 --> 00:24:34,400 SUMMERISH OR FALL LAST YEAR. 829 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,933 LOOK THE GOVERNOR IN THE EYE AND 830 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:36,833 SAY YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ON 831 00:24:36,833 --> 00:24:38,366 THIS FLINT WATER. 832 00:24:38,366 --> 00:24:39,633 >> BOTH URGING HIM TO DO THAT 833 00:24:39,633 --> 00:24:41,666 BOTH URGING AND BY WE BOTH ME 834 00:24:41,666 --> 00:24:44,266 AND THE SENATOR AND OBVIOUSLY 835 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:46,200 THE LEGISLATORS CLOSEST TO THE 836 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,266 ISSUE, THE LEGISLATORS FROM 837 00:24:49,266 --> 00:24:51,966 FLINT WERE SOUNDING THE ALARM 838 00:24:51,966 --> 00:24:52,333 PUBLICALLY. 839 00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:54,400 >> AND THE DEMOCRAT HANDS ARE 840 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,600 CLEAN ON THIS ISSUE. 841 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,400 >> THEY ARE. 842 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,533 I THINK IT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR 843 00:24:57,533 --> 00:25:00,033 THAT LEGISLATURES FROM FLINT AND 844 00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:04,633 CONGRESSMAN DAN KILBY DID THIS 845 00:25:04,633 --> 00:25:06,533 PRIVATELY AND PUBLICALLY AND 846 00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,766 GETTING BLOWN OFF AS THE 847 00:25:08,766 --> 00:25:09,500 ADMINISTRATION BLEW OFF 848 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,366 RESIDENTS IN FLINT. 849 00:25:11,366 --> 00:25:12,766 >> GOVERNOR SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW 850 00:25:12,766 --> 00:25:14,566 ABOUT THE PROBLEM OF THE WATER 851 00:25:14,566 --> 00:25:18,933 UNTIL OCTOBER 15 THAT IS A 852 00:25:18,933 --> 00:25:19,766 YES-OR-NO QUESTION? 853 00:25:19,766 --> 00:25:21,533 >> TOP MEMBERS OF HIS 854 00:25:21,533 --> 00:25:23,500 ADMINISTRATION KNEW GOING BACK 855 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:29,566 TO EARLY 2015 AND EVEN LATE 2014 856 00:25:29,566 --> 00:25:32,200 WE HAVE E-MAIL TRAFFIC THAT 857 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,266 CLEARLY SHOWS THAT HIS CHIEF OF 858 00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:35,933 STAFF AND OTHERS EITHER HE KNEW 859 00:25:35,933 --> 00:25:37,633 AND IS LYING ABOUT NOT KNOWING 860 00:25:37,633 --> 00:25:40,400 OR IF EVERYBODY AROUND HIM NOW 861 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,766 AND HE DIDN'T HE IS THE FAILURE 862 00:25:43,766 --> 00:25:45,000 OF LEADERSHIP. 863 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,500 MR. 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