1 00:00:00,066 --> 00:00:04,433 ♪♪♪ 2 00:00:04,433 --> 00:00:04,800 >> WELCOME BACK. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,600 OUR GUEST THIS WEEK WANTS SPORTS 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,600 BETTING IN MICHIGAN, 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,266 REPRESENTATIVE ROBERT KOSOWSKI 6 00:00:09,266 --> 00:00:10,433 OF WESTLAND. 7 00:00:10,433 --> 00:00:11,433 OUR LEAD STORY, THE NASSAR 8 00:00:11,433 --> 00:00:13,933 SETTLEMENT AND MSU. 500 MILLION 9 00:00:13,933 --> 00:00:15,100 DOLLARS. WHERE WILL THE MONEY 10 00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:16,433 COME FROM? 11 00:00:16,433 --> 00:00:17,600 ON THE OTR PANEL, JONATHAN 12 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,500 OOSTING, KATHY GRAY AND RICK 13 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:21,600 PLUTA, SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET 14 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,266 THE INSIDE, OUT, OFF THE RECORD. 15 00:00:25,266 --> 00:00:26,566 PRODUCTION OF "OFF THE RECORD" 16 00:00:26,566 --> 00:00:28,066 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 17 00:00:28,066 --> 00:00:31,066 GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN, 18 00:00:31,066 --> 00:00:32,966 MICHIGAN'S ONLY BIPARTISAN 19 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:34,866 COMMUNICATION FIRM SERVING 20 00:00:34,866 --> 00:00:36,366 STATEWIDE, NATIONAL AND 21 00:00:36,366 --> 00:00:37,666 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS FROM THE 22 00:00:37,666 --> 00:00:39,400 OFFICE IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 23 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,100 GRAND RAPIDS, 24 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:44,600 TRUSCOTTROSSMAN.COM. 25 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,500 SERVING THE GREATER LANSING AREA 26 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,400 SINCE 1941 PROVIDING SOLUTIONS 27 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,800 AND CHOICES FOR HOME COMFORT 28 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,600 DURING ALL MICHIGAN SEASONS. 29 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,500 HAGER FOX AND BRYANT. 30 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:56,766 WHATEVER IT TAKES. 31 00:00:56,766 --> 00:00:58,766 HEARING FOX.COM AND MSU COLLEGE 32 00:00:58,766 --> 00:01:01,633 OF AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL 33 00:01:01,633 --> 00:01:03,033 RESOURCES MICHIGAN STATE 34 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:04,333 UNIVERSITY WANTS TO BE A TRUSTED 35 00:01:04,333 --> 00:01:05,833 PARTNER ABOUT FOOD AND WHERE IT 36 00:01:05,833 --> 00:01:07,333 COMES FROM INCLUDING THE IMPACT 37 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,533 ON OUR HEALTH AND ON OUR PLANET. 38 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:14,666 LEARN MORE AT FOOD.MSU.EDU. 39 00:01:14,666 --> 00:01:16,600 AND NOW THE EDITION OF "OFF THE 40 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,100 RECORD" WITH TIM SKUBICK. 41 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:21,900 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 42 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:22,800 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT 43 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,700 THE$500MILLION SETTLEMENT AT 44 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:27,300 MS AND FORMER GOVERNOR JOHN 45 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:28,000 ENGLER. 46 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,266 >> THE MSU PRESIDENT WAS ON THE 47 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:33,666 WAY TO THE CLOSED DOOR MEETING 48 00:01:33,666 --> 00:01:35,166 DO YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO 49 00:01:35,166 --> 00:01:37,566 ASK THE LAWMAKERS FOR THIS MONEY 50 00:01:37,566 --> 00:01:38,666 FROM THE GOVERNOR. 51 00:01:38,666 --> 00:01:40,766 WE ARE LATE FOR A MEETING. 52 00:01:40,766 --> 00:01:42,766 DO THEY HAVE MONEY? 53 00:01:42,766 --> 00:01:44,266 THE GOVERNOR ASKING FOR MONEY 54 00:01:44,266 --> 00:01:46,000 FROM THE SETTLEMENT FROM NASSAR. 55 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,300 WILL YOU VOTE YES ON THAT? 56 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:49,200 >> ABSOLUTLEY NOT. 57 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,700 >> YOU ARE NO LONGER GOVERNOR, 58 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:51,100 JOHN. 59 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:53,300 GO FIND THE MONEY FROM MSU, NOT 60 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:53,900 FROM US. 61 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,800 NOT FROM THE TAXPAYER. 62 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,100 >> THE$500MILLION NASSAR 63 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:58,600 SETTLEMENT IS BEING HAILED AS 64 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,733 MAJOR STEP FORWARD, MR.ENGLER 65 00:02:01,733 --> 00:02:03,133 WILL GET A CHILLY RECEPTION IF 66 00:02:03,133 --> 00:02:04,433 HE COMES TO THE LEGISLATURE 67 00:02:04,433 --> 00:02:05,933 ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. 68 00:02:05,933 --> 00:02:07,233 >> LOOK INTO THE OWN FUNDS, 69 00:02:07,233 --> 00:02:08,333 FIRST. 70 00:02:08,333 --> 00:02:10,033 DON'T GO TO TUITION. 71 00:02:10,033 --> 00:02:12,433 IF HE SAYS OK, I HAVE DONE THAT. 72 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,333 HE STILL NEEDS STATE HELP. 73 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:15,033 >> LOOK DEEPER. 74 00:02:15,033 --> 00:02:17,266 THEY HAVE A LARGER DAY FUND. 75 00:02:17,266 --> 00:02:19,300 IT HAS BEEN STORMY OVER THERE. 76 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:21,600 >> MSU HAS$1BILLION 77 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,500 UNRESTRICTED FUND 78 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:25,000 AND$51MILLION INSURANCE POLICY 79 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,800 AND COULD BORROW MONEY ALONG 80 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,500 WITH BOOSTING TUITION IF HE 81 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,600 DECIDES TO GO THERE. 82 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,500 NONE OTHER FRONT, AS PART OF THE 83 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:33,200 SURVIVAL LEGAL AGREEMENT, SOME 84 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,900 HAVE AGREED TO BACK OFF SUPPORT 85 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:36,666 OF A PROPOSAL TO GIVE OTHER 86 00:02:36,666 --> 00:02:38,566 SURVIVORS MORE TIME TO FILE A 87 00:02:38,566 --> 00:02:39,466 LAWSUIT. 88 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:41,166 MSU OPPOSES THAT. 89 00:02:41,166 --> 00:02:42,866 BUT THIS SURVIVOR ADVOCATE AND 90 00:02:42,866 --> 00:02:44,366 STATE SENATOR SAYS, IT'S NOT 91 00:02:44,366 --> 00:02:45,466 BINDING ON HER. 92 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:46,766 >> WELL, THOSE WHO THINK THE 93 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:47,966 LAWSUIT DICTATES WHAT 94 00:02:47,966 --> 00:02:49,666 REPUBLICANS DO AT THE CAPITAL, 95 00:02:49,666 --> 00:02:50,566 THEY ARE MISTAKEN. 96 00:02:50,566 --> 00:02:52,300 THE FORMER GOVERNOR WHO IS GOOD 97 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:54,300 SAYS HE WILL NOT BE ASKING FOR 98 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:55,600 STATE AID, BUT HE DOESN'T RULE 99 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,300 OUT A TUITION INCREASE. 100 00:02:57,300 --> 00:03:00,966 >> WELL, NOT OUR INTENT TO DO 101 00:03:00,966 --> 00:03:01,366 THAT. 102 00:03:01,366 --> 00:03:02,966 WE'RE NOT HERE TO ASK FOR 103 00:03:02,966 --> 00:03:04,166 THAT, YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY 104 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:05,066 TUITION, RIGHT? 105 00:03:05,066 --> 00:03:06,166 ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO 106 00:03:06,166 --> 00:03:10,133 USE IS FIND A LEPRECHAUN AND I 107 00:03:10,133 --> 00:03:10,833 AM SERIOUS. 108 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:11,933 WE HAVE NOT MADE THOSE 109 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:12,733 DECISIONS. 110 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:14,033 MR.ENGLER WILL START WITH THE 111 00:03:14,033 --> 00:03:15,533 INSURANCE COMPANY FIRST AND MOVE 112 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:16,966 TO THE OTHER DECISION. 113 00:03:16,966 --> 00:03:18,666 WELL, ALL RIGHT. 114 00:03:18,666 --> 00:03:19,366 WHERE DOES HE GET THE MONEY? 115 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:21,966 >> WELL, HE DOES HAVE, LIKE YOU 116 00:03:21,966 --> 00:03:24,266 SAID,$1BILLION IN UNRESTRICTED 117 00:03:24,266 --> 00:03:27,500 ASSETS AND THERE IS, UM, A 118 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:29,300 COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION IN 119 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:31,200 INSURANCE THAT COULD BE USED. 120 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,300 BUT TUITION INCREASE, THAT IS 121 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,700 GOING TO GO OVER SO BADLY AND IT 122 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:37,800 IS GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE, THE 123 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,300 FUNDING THAT THE STATE GIVING 124 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:40,000 HIM ALREADY. 125 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,300 THE STATE GIVES HIM, GAVE 126 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:43,366 HIM$281MILLION LAST YEAR WHICH 127 00:03:43,366 --> 00:03:45,066 IS, WHICH IS A SMALL PORTION OF 128 00:03:45,066 --> 00:03:46,766 THEIR BUDGET, BUT IT IS A 129 00:03:46,766 --> 00:03:48,366 SIGNIFICANT PORTION, IT IS NOT 130 00:03:48,366 --> 00:03:50,066 THAT THEY CANNOT LOSE. 131 00:03:50,066 --> 00:03:52,166 SO RAISING TUITION IS, I THINK, 132 00:03:52,166 --> 00:03:54,366 A NONSTARTER. 133 00:03:54,366 --> 00:03:56,066 >> JUST LIKE THIS YEAR, HAS THE 134 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:58,900 TUITION RESTRAINT CAP AND 135 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:00,000 PENALIZATION OF THE UNIVERSITY 136 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,566 TO GO OVER A CERTAIN POINT AND 137 00:04:01,566 --> 00:04:03,666 CERTAINLY MOST UNIVERSITIES DO 138 00:04:03,666 --> 00:04:05,566 RAISE TUITION REGULARLY, BUT 139 00:04:05,566 --> 00:04:07,066 JUST BELOW THAT CAP, SO WE'LL 140 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:09,666 SEE WHERE MSU FALLS ON THAT. 141 00:04:09,666 --> 00:04:12,466 >> WELL, AND, AND THE PRESIDENT 142 00:04:12,466 --> 00:04:14,566 ANYWHERE CAN SAY TODAY THAT 143 00:04:14,566 --> 00:04:16,233 THERE ARE NO PLANS TO ASK THE 144 00:04:16,233 --> 00:04:18,166 LEGISLATURE FOR SOMETHING BUT, 145 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:19,666 YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO FIND THAT 146 00:04:19,666 --> 00:04:22,266 LEPRECHAUN AND MY QUESTION IS IF 147 00:04:22,266 --> 00:04:24,966 THE ISSUE COMES UP AND, AND 148 00:04:24,966 --> 00:04:26,766 LEGISLATURES, ACTUALLY FUTURE 149 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:29,766 LEGISLATORS, THEN LIKELIHOOD 150 00:04:29,766 --> 00:04:31,666 HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER 151 00:04:31,666 --> 00:04:35,100 TO PAY SURVIVORS, I MEAN, THAT 152 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:37,500 IS A TOUGH VOTE TO VOTE NO ON. 153 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:38,100 >> WOW. 154 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:39,200 I TELL YOU WHAT. 155 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,800 THIS SAMPLING I GOT DOWN THERE 156 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,200 YESTERDAY, 157 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,200 NOBODY IN THE MOOD TO OPEN THIS 158 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,700 CHECKBOOK. 159 00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:46,900 YOU CREATED THIS PROBLEM. 160 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:48,000 YOU FIND THE MONEY. 161 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,666 WHO IS GOING TO SAY TODAY THAT 162 00:04:49,666 --> 00:04:51,666 THEY ARE READY THERE AND ABLE TO 163 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:52,766 DO THAT, THE QUESTION IS WHAT 164 00:04:52,766 --> 00:04:55,066 ARE THEY GOING TO DO WHEN THE 165 00:04:55,066 --> 00:04:56,566 QUESTION IS ACTUALLY PUT IN 166 00:04:56,566 --> 00:04:57,666 FRONT OF THEM. 167 00:04:57,666 --> 00:04:58,266 >> IF IT IS. 168 00:04:58,266 --> 00:04:58,600 >> ALL RIGHT. 169 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,766 WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF 170 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:01,133 GETTING THIS PIECE OFF OF THE 171 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:02,433 TABLE AND THIS IS A TENTATIVE 172 00:05:02,433 --> 00:05:04,533 AGREEMENT THAT IS THE TEASE. 173 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:06,066 >> WELL, IT IS DUE TO THE 174 00:05:06,066 --> 00:05:07,566 PERIMETERS AND ALLOWS US TO 175 00:05:07,566 --> 00:05:07,866 VOTE. 176 00:05:07,866 --> 00:05:09,566 >> SO LET'S ASSUME IT STAYS IN 177 00:05:09,566 --> 00:05:09,966 PLACE. 178 00:05:09,966 --> 00:05:10,866 WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF 179 00:05:10,866 --> 00:05:12,366 GETTING THIS THING RESOLVED? 180 00:05:12,366 --> 00:05:13,666 >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, FROM BOTH 181 00:05:13,666 --> 00:05:15,966 THE SCHOOL AND THE SURVIVORS, 182 00:05:15,966 --> 00:05:18,166 THIS GIVES THEM SOME SORT OF 183 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,266 CLOSURE ON THE DEAL AND 184 00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:22,133 OBVIOUSLY, MSU HAS A LOT OF WORK 185 00:05:22,133 --> 00:05:23,933 TO DO TO STILL REBUILD TRUST AND 186 00:05:23,933 --> 00:05:25,633 IMPROVE PROCESS ON THE CAMPUS 187 00:05:25,633 --> 00:05:26,933 AND TO PREVENT THIS SORT OF 188 00:05:26,933 --> 00:05:28,633 THING FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, AND 189 00:05:28,633 --> 00:05:30,733 FROM A LEGISLATURE PERSPECTIVE 190 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:32,933 AS YOU MENTIONED THERE AS WELL. 191 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:34,433 WELL, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE 192 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:36,533 THE DYNAMICS OF THE LEGISLATION, 193 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:38,533 THAT IS BEFORE THE LAWMAKERS ARE 194 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:40,066 CONSIDERING IT WAS PASSED BY THE 195 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:41,366 SENATE AND IS NOW AT THE HOUSE 196 00:05:41,366 --> 00:05:43,866 AND PART OF THE SETTLEMENT 197 00:05:43,866 --> 00:05:45,166 APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO 198 00:05:45,166 --> 00:05:48,166 ATTORNEYS AND MR.BOB YOUNG, THE 199 00:05:48,166 --> 00:05:50,566 FORMER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IS 200 00:05:50,566 --> 00:05:52,866 TO DROP SURVIVORS DROPPING 201 00:05:52,866 --> 00:05:54,466 SUPPORT OR AT LEAST GOING 202 00:05:54,466 --> 00:05:57,133 NEUTRAL AND ON BILLS THAT WOULD 203 00:05:57,133 --> 00:05:58,733 REMOVE GOVERNMENT MINORITY IN 204 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:00,200 CASES LIKE THIS. 205 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 >> WELL, THE IMPACT ON 206 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,000 LAWMAKERS. 207 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,100 THIS IS NONBINDING. 208 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:05,400 WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY 209 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,300 CRITICAL OF THAT. 210 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,100 AND MY QUESTION AS FAR AS THAT 211 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:11,000 BEING A CONDITION, I MEAN, I 212 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,333 THINK THERE ARE, THERE ARE, UM, 213 00:06:13,333 --> 00:06:15,333 YOU KNOW, CONSTITUTIONAL 214 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:17,866 IMPLEMENTS HERE INCLUDING 215 00:06:17,866 --> 00:06:19,266 FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE RIGHT TO 216 00:06:19,266 --> 00:06:19,966 PETITION THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU 217 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:22,066 ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT BINDING 218 00:06:22,066 --> 00:06:28,933 ON$336,$332 SURVIVORS, I 219 00:06:28,933 --> 00:06:30,933 DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN 220 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:32,633 MAKE THAT A CONDITION. 221 00:06:32,633 --> 00:06:33,833 >> WELL, BUT IF YOU HAVE BEEN 222 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:34,933 SITTING AND WATCHING THE 223 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:37,733 HEARINGS IN THE HOUSE ON THIS, 224 00:06:37,733 --> 00:06:40,133 THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN AMONG 225 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:41,833 CLOSE LAWMAKERS ABOUT THE 226 00:06:41,833 --> 00:06:43,733 PROVISION THE SENATE HAS PASSED. 227 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:44,133 >> YES. 228 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:45,766 SO I DON'T EXPECT THOSE TO PASS 229 00:06:45,766 --> 00:06:47,266 AS THEY WERE PASSED IN THE 230 00:06:47,266 --> 00:06:48,766 SENATE. 231 00:06:48,766 --> 00:06:51,066 THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, THE 232 00:06:51,066 --> 00:06:53,666 ABILITY TO SUE RETROACTIVELY 233 00:06:53,666 --> 00:06:55,966 BACK TO 1997 THE GOVERNMENTAL 234 00:06:55,966 --> 00:06:56,666 IMMUNITY. 235 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:57,966 THOSE THREE THINGS ARE GOING TO 236 00:06:57,966 --> 00:06:58,566 CHANGE. 237 00:06:58,566 --> 00:06:59,066 >> YEAH. 238 00:06:59,066 --> 00:06:59,866 >> GO AHEAD. 239 00:06:59,866 --> 00:07:00,333 YEAH. 240 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:01,233 YEAH. 241 00:07:01,233 --> 00:07:03,400 >> AS I SAY, AS THE SENATOR 242 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,300 SAID, NOTHING IN THIS SETTLEMENT 243 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,600 IS BEING IN ON LEGISLATURES THEY 244 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,900 CAN DO THEIR OWN THING, BUT IF, 245 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:11,900 IF VICTIMS, SURVIVORS AND WHO 246 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:13,200 ARE REALLY PUSHING FOR THIS 247 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,200 PACKAGE AT LEAST GO NEUTRAL ON 248 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,500 SOME OF THE BILLS THAT GIVES 249 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:17,833 LAWMAKERS IN THE HOUSE WHO ARE 250 00:07:17,833 --> 00:07:20,066 READY, ALREADY MOVING TOWARD 251 00:07:20,066 --> 00:07:23,666 CHANGES MORE COVER TO DO THAT, 252 00:07:23,666 --> 00:07:24,766 OBVIOUSLY, ANY TIME YOU ARE 253 00:07:24,766 --> 00:07:26,066 DEALING WITH THE LEGISLATURE, 254 00:07:26,066 --> 00:07:27,366 THE RISK FOR FEAR FOR 255 00:07:27,366 --> 00:07:28,666 POLITICIANS IS THAT YOU DO 256 00:07:28,666 --> 00:07:30,366 SOMETHING AND THE SURVIVORS ARE 257 00:07:30,366 --> 00:07:31,466 GOING TO SAY ARE NOT DOING 258 00:07:31,466 --> 00:07:33,966 ENOUGH TO RIGHT THIS SITUATION 259 00:07:33,966 --> 00:07:36,133 TO BE ATTACKED BY SURVIVORS IS A 260 00:07:36,133 --> 00:07:37,433 TOUGH POSITION FOR LAWMAKERS TO 261 00:07:37,433 --> 00:07:38,033 BE IN. 262 00:07:38,033 --> 00:07:39,533 SO IF AT LEAST THEY WILL NOT BE 263 00:07:39,533 --> 00:07:41,033 CRITICIZED FOR DROPPING THE 264 00:07:41,033 --> 00:07:42,533 GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY BILL, THAT 265 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:44,933 GIVES THE HOUSE MORE LEEWAY. 266 00:07:44,933 --> 00:07:47,233 >> BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF 267 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:49,833 SURVIVORS AND IT ONLY TAKES ONE 268 00:07:49,833 --> 00:07:51,833 SPEAKING OUT AGAINST IT TO, YOU 269 00:07:51,833 --> 00:07:53,166 KNOW, GET THIS SORT OF 270 00:07:53,166 --> 00:07:54,566 UNWELCOMED ATTENTION THAT YOU 271 00:07:54,566 --> 00:07:55,966 ARE TALKING ABOUT. 272 00:07:55,966 --> 00:07:58,066 >> THERE IS A COLLECTIVE SIGH OF 273 00:07:58,066 --> 00:07:58,666 RELIEF. 274 00:07:58,666 --> 00:07:59,566 THIS IS OUT OF THE WAY. 275 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:00,533 THERE IS STILL THE CRIMINAL 276 00:08:00,533 --> 00:08:01,133 INVESTIGATION. 277 00:08:01,133 --> 00:08:01,733 IT IS STILL THROUGHOUT. 278 00:08:01,733 --> 00:08:03,033 YOU HAVE THIS PENDING 279 00:08:03,033 --> 00:08:04,833 LEGISLATION AND YOU GOT 280 00:08:04,833 --> 00:08:05,633 EDUCATION. 281 00:08:05,633 --> 00:08:09,000 >> NCAA AND, AND, U.S. SENATE 282 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,200 HEARING IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK 283 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,500 ON THAT. 284 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:13,800 PLUS, THIS WILL BE A CAMPAIGN 285 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,500 ISSUE IN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 286 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:18,633 RAISE WHEN TWO OPEN SEATS UP FOR 287 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:19,433 GRAB. 288 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:20,933 BELIEVE ME, THERE WILL BE PLENTY 289 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:22,233 OF DEBATE ON THAT. 290 00:08:22,233 --> 00:08:23,333 ISN'T THAT FASCINATING? 291 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:24,633 THAT USUALLY THE UNIVERSITY 292 00:08:24,633 --> 00:08:27,866 BOARD RACES ARE A MEASURE OF 293 00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:28,966 CORE POLITICAL SUPPORT. 294 00:08:28,966 --> 00:08:32,166 THAT, I MEAN, WHEN PEOPLE ARE 295 00:08:32,166 --> 00:08:33,666 LOOKING AT THIS, WE JUST LOOK AT 296 00:08:33,666 --> 00:08:35,366 THAT AND WE WOULD SEE THIS 297 00:08:35,366 --> 00:08:37,366 MEASURE IS BASED FOR THE R'S 298 00:08:37,366 --> 00:08:39,266 VERSUS THE D'S OR WHATEVER. 299 00:08:39,266 --> 00:08:42,066 WE MAY HAVE ACTUAL ISSUES IN 300 00:08:42,066 --> 00:08:43,533 THESE UNIVERSITY BOARD RACES. 301 00:08:43,533 --> 00:08:45,633 >> WELL, ONE OF THE SURVIVORS IS 302 00:08:45,633 --> 00:08:47,233 TALKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR ONE OF 303 00:08:47,233 --> 00:08:48,933 THE MICHIGAN STATE BOARD, SO 304 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:51,233 THAT JUST OPENS UP, YOU KNOW, A 305 00:08:51,233 --> 00:08:52,933 WHOLE OTHER LINE OF DEBATE. 306 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:54,533 WELL, IT WOULD BE THE CLOSELY 307 00:08:54,533 --> 00:08:56,833 WATCHED MSU TRUSTEE RACE OVERALL 308 00:08:56,833 --> 00:08:58,333 AND PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT IT. 309 00:08:58,333 --> 00:08:58,766 >> ALL RIGHT. 310 00:08:58,766 --> 00:09:00,533 LET'S TALK ABOUT SPORTS BETTING. 311 00:09:00,533 --> 00:09:01,633 EVERYBODY IN MICHIGAN WANTS TO 312 00:09:01,633 --> 00:09:02,733 DO THIS. 313 00:09:02,733 --> 00:09:03,133 I BET. 314 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:04,433 LET'S TAKE A LOOK. 315 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:05,733 >> WELL, WE ARE TRYING TO FAST 316 00:09:05,733 --> 00:09:06,333 TRACK IT. 317 00:09:06,333 --> 00:09:07,433 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT GET DONE 318 00:09:07,433 --> 00:09:08,733 BEFORE SUMMER BREAK. 319 00:09:08,733 --> 00:09:09,333 >> SUMMER BREAK IS 320 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:10,833 JUNE21st. 321 00:09:10,833 --> 00:09:11,933 TALK ABOUT A FAST TRACK. 322 00:09:11,933 --> 00:09:13,733 BUT, GOVERNOR RICK SNYDER IS NOT 323 00:09:13,733 --> 00:09:15,800 ON THAT FAST TRACK, IN FACT, IN 324 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,233 HIS FIRST INTERVIEW SINCE THE 325 00:09:17,233 --> 00:09:18,533 U.S. SUPREME COURT RULING THIS 326 00:09:18,533 --> 00:09:20,433 WEEK, HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO 327 00:09:20,433 --> 00:09:21,533 TALK ABOUT IT. 328 00:09:21,533 --> 00:09:23,933 >> WE WANT TO DO SPORTS BETTING. 329 00:09:23,933 --> 00:09:25,333 >> THAT WOULD NOT BE THE HIGHEST 330 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:26,433 THING ON MY LIST. 331 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:27,533 >> YOU WOULDN'T RULE IT OUT? 332 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:28,833 >> AGAIN, I AM NOT LOOKING TO 333 00:09:28,833 --> 00:09:30,733 GET INVOLVED IN THAT TOPIC. 334 00:09:30,733 --> 00:09:31,833 I WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS 335 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:33,566 FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE. 336 00:09:33,566 --> 00:09:35,066 >> IT RAISES MONEY. 337 00:09:35,066 --> 00:09:35,966 WE'LL WAIT TO SEE. 338 00:09:35,966 --> 00:09:37,466 >> ONE PROPOSAL WOULD PERMIT 339 00:09:37,466 --> 00:09:40,066 SPORTS BETTING AT TRIBAL CASINO 340 00:09:40,066 --> 00:09:42,366 AND ONE ESTIMATE SUGGESTS THAT 341 00:09:42,366 --> 00:09:44,266 COULD RAISE ABOUT$30MILLION 342 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:45,866 FOR THE STATE WITH$6MILLION 343 00:09:45,866 --> 00:09:46,666 GOING TO THE SCHOOLS. 344 00:09:46,666 --> 00:09:48,733 THIS REPUBLICAN SENATOR WHO IS 345 00:09:48,733 --> 00:09:51,333 NOT GAMBLING SAYS HE WILL VOTE 346 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:51,733 YES. 347 00:09:51,733 --> 00:09:52,233 HOW? 348 00:09:52,233 --> 00:09:53,733 WELL, ACTUALLY WE LET OTHER 349 00:09:53,733 --> 00:09:55,233 STATES HAVE IT AND NOT US. 350 00:09:55,233 --> 00:09:57,533 SO THINGS, THE THING THAT I LIKE 351 00:09:57,533 --> 00:09:58,433 ABOUT IT. 352 00:09:58,433 --> 00:10:00,133 YOU TAKE THAT EXTRA REVENUE. 353 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:02,033 YOU PUT IT TOWARD THE ROADS. 354 00:10:02,033 --> 00:10:04,933 PUT IT TOWARD ANYTHING YOU WANT. 355 00:10:04,933 --> 00:10:07,266 >> A FORMER SHERIFF ARGUES THERE 356 00:10:07,266 --> 00:10:08,766 IS ILLEGAL BETTING GOING ON 357 00:10:08,766 --> 00:10:09,366 RIGHT NOW. 358 00:10:09,366 --> 00:10:10,866 WHY NOT TAKE IT OUT OF THE HANDS 359 00:10:10,866 --> 00:10:12,366 OF THE ORGANIZED CRIME AND PUT 360 00:10:12,366 --> 00:10:13,466 IT IN THE STATES. 361 00:10:13,466 --> 00:10:15,266 WELL, I DON'T THINK GAMBLING IS 362 00:10:15,266 --> 00:10:16,066 GOOD FOR PEOPLE. 363 00:10:16,066 --> 00:10:17,300 UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS ALREADY 364 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:18,100 ON-LINE. 365 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:19,400 IT IS BEING RUN BY ORGANIZED 366 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:19,900 CRIME. 367 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:21,600 I WOULD MUCH RATHER YOU WE'RE 368 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,500 GOING TO HAVE IT OUT THERE. 369 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:23,866 LET'S TAX. 370 00:10:23,866 --> 00:10:25,366 WHEN THEY APPROVED THREE DETROIT 371 00:10:25,366 --> 00:10:27,166 CASINOS THEY FORCED LAWMAKERS TO 372 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:30,566 FIND 83 HOUSE VOTES AND 28 373 00:10:30,566 --> 00:10:32,066 SENATE VOTES TO DO THE SPORTS 374 00:10:32,066 --> 00:10:32,666 BETTING. 375 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:34,266 THAT IS A HEAVY LIFT. 376 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:35,766 >> A LOT OF VOTES AND ONLY TAKES 377 00:10:35,766 --> 00:10:37,866 A QUARTER HERE OF THE MEMBERS TO 378 00:10:37,866 --> 00:10:38,800 SAY NO TO STOP IT FROM 379 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,400 HAPPENING. 380 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,100 >> THE GOVERNOR NOT ONBOARD AND 381 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:42,600 SOME SERIOUS LEGAL QUESTIONS 382 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,100 HANGING OVER THE DEBATE, IT IS 383 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:46,100 FAIR TO SAY, IT IS FAR FROM 384 00:10:46,100 --> 00:10:48,400 BEING A SURE BET. 385 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,100 >> ALL RIGHT. 386 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:50,400 IS THIS GOING TO PASS? 387 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,600 >> WELL, THERE IS A COUPLE OF 388 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,700 PROPOSALS OUT THERE. 389 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,600 WELL, OUR GUESTS HAS ONE 390 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,066 PROPOSAL, BUT THEN THERE IS 391 00:10:56,066 --> 00:10:57,566 ANOTHER BILL THAT HAS PASSED OUT 392 00:10:57,566 --> 00:10:59,066 OF THE COMMITTEE THEY WOULD 393 00:10:59,066 --> 00:11:00,733 ALLOW ON-LINE GAMBLING AND THE 394 00:11:00,733 --> 00:11:02,133 PACIFIC LANGUAGE IN THAT BILL 395 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:04,733 THAT SAYS IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE 396 00:11:04,733 --> 00:11:06,033 SPORTS BETTING IF THAT IS NOT 397 00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:07,533 ILLEGAL AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL 398 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:08,833 WITH THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IT 399 00:11:08,833 --> 00:11:10,133 IS NOT ILLEGAL AT THE FEDERAL 400 00:11:10,133 --> 00:11:11,633 LEVEL AND THAT BILL SEEKS TO 401 00:11:11,633 --> 00:11:14,066 ALLOW ON-LINE GAMBLING WITHOUT 402 00:11:14,066 --> 00:11:16,366 NEEDING THAT VOTE AND BECAUSE IT 403 00:11:16,366 --> 00:11:18,000 WOULD GO THROUGH THE CASINOS 404 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,800 WHICH WERE APPROVED AND IT WOULD 405 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,700 REQUIRE A SIMPLE MAJORITY SO 406 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:23,800 THAT BILL HAS A LOWER BAR TO 407 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,500 CLEAR AND THEN I THINK THERE IS 408 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:27,900 SOME DEFINITE DEBATE GOING ON. 409 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,400 >> WELL, YOU GOT TO BE SPENDING 410 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,266 THE FISTS ON THE TABLE IN 411 00:11:31,266 --> 00:11:32,366 FRUSTRATION AS THE PEOPLE WHO 412 00:11:32,366 --> 00:11:33,866 OWN THE HORSE TRACKS THAT CLOSED 413 00:11:33,866 --> 00:11:35,566 DOWN BECAUSE WE ARE SO CLOSE. 414 00:11:35,566 --> 00:11:35,866 >> YEAH. 415 00:11:35,866 --> 00:11:36,466 YEAH. 416 00:11:36,466 --> 00:11:37,366 THEY WANTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS 417 00:11:37,366 --> 00:11:39,866 FOR SO LONG TO TRY TO KEEP THEM 418 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:40,166 OPEN. 419 00:11:40,166 --> 00:11:41,566 I THINK I WE ARE DOWN ONE TRACK 420 00:11:41,566 --> 00:11:41,866 NOW. 421 00:11:41,866 --> 00:11:43,566 >> BUT THE CURBSIDE APPEAL HERE 422 00:11:43,566 --> 00:11:45,900 IN MICHIGAN, I THINK, IT IS, IT 423 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,500 IS PHENOMENAL. 424 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:49,200 >> I THINK IT IS IN EVERY STATE. 425 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,200 I MEAN, EVERY STATE. 426 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,100 EVERY STATE IS GOING TO BE 427 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:52,000 CONSIDERED THIS RIGHT NOW. 428 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,500 BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT AS, 429 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:55,400 AS RICK JONES SAID, PROBABLY IS 430 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,900 GOING ON ANYWAYS. 431 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:59,700 SO DO YOU WANT TO LIKE MEDICAL 432 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:00,366 MARIJUANA. 433 00:12:00,366 --> 00:12:01,466 BRING IT TO A REGULATED 434 00:12:01,466 --> 00:12:02,166 ENVIRONMENT. 435 00:12:02,166 --> 00:12:02,733 TAX IT. 436 00:12:02,733 --> 00:12:05,333 PERHAPS MAKE A PROFIT OFF OF IT. 437 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:06,833 THERE IS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES 438 00:12:06,833 --> 00:12:08,133 BETWEEN THOSE TWO DEBATES. 439 00:12:08,133 --> 00:12:10,833 THE QUESTION IS. 440 00:12:10,833 --> 00:12:12,633 THE REPRESENTATIVE SAYS DOING IT 441 00:12:12,633 --> 00:12:14,133 NOW, DOING IT FAST WOULD GIVE 442 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:16,766 MICHIGAN AN ADVANTAGE TO MAKE A 443 00:12:16,766 --> 00:12:18,066 LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY IN THE 444 00:12:18,066 --> 00:12:19,366 FIRST COUPLE YEARS. 445 00:12:19,366 --> 00:12:20,700 >> A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE RIGHT 446 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:21,600 NOW TO GET THROUGH THE 447 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,700 LEGISLATURE, BUT AT SOME POINT, 448 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:25,900 WELL, AT SOME POINT, THERE IS 449 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:27,200 GOING TO BE LOBBYING AGAINST IT 450 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,200 BY, YOU KNOW, MY GUESS WOULD BE 451 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,500 THE CATHOLIC CONFERENCE WOULD BE 452 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,200 AMONG THEM THAT ARE OPPOSING 453 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,600 THIS. 454 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,300 I COULD BE WRONG. 455 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:37,666 BUT, UM, THE BINGO GAMES. 456 00:12:37,666 --> 00:12:39,766 NOT TO MENTION THE CASINO 457 00:12:39,766 --> 00:12:41,766 INTERESTS AND INDIAN TRIBES. 458 00:12:41,766 --> 00:12:42,166 >> YEAH. 459 00:12:42,166 --> 00:12:42,966 YEAH. 460 00:12:42,966 --> 00:12:45,366 >> SO THE CASINOS ARE EXCITED 461 00:12:45,366 --> 00:12:45,766 ABOUT IT. 462 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:46,066 >> YEAH. 463 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:46,666 YEAH. 464 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:48,966 >> I MEAN, IN MICHIGAN, IT IS 465 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:50,266 COMPLICATED. 466 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:51,166 >> RIGHT. 467 00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:53,300 >> THEY WANT IT. 468 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:53,800 >> RIGHT. 469 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,900 >> THERE IS CONCERN IN THE 470 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:57,600 HOUSE, I SAT IN ON A HEARING 471 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,666 ABOUT FANTASY SPORTS, AND, THAT 472 00:13:00,666 --> 00:13:03,266 IS NOT CONSIDERED GAMBLING BUT 473 00:13:03,266 --> 00:13:05,166 THERE WERE FOLKS, MEMBERS IN 474 00:13:05,166 --> 00:13:06,266 THAT COMMITTEE WHO WERE LIKE, 475 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:07,366 YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO 476 00:13:07,366 --> 00:13:08,666 START ALLOWING THIS ON-LINE, 477 00:13:08,666 --> 00:13:11,033 KIDS ARE GOING TO BE DOING IT. 478 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:12,433 HOW DO YOU PREVENT KIDS FROM 479 00:13:12,433 --> 00:13:12,733 DOING IT? 480 00:13:12,733 --> 00:13:14,633 I WILL GUESS THERE IS SOME GUYS 481 00:13:14,633 --> 00:13:16,333 RUNNING FOR HOUSE IN TOUGH SEATS 482 00:13:16,333 --> 00:13:17,966 THAT GO BACK TO SAY WE GOT YOU 483 00:13:17,966 --> 00:13:20,366 ANOTHER$100 MILLION TO FILL THE 484 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:21,866 POTHOLES TO EDUCATE THE KIDS TO 485 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:23,766 SEE WHAT A GOOD BOY I AM. 486 00:13:23,766 --> 00:13:25,466 THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO 487 00:13:25,466 --> 00:13:26,800 BEFORE IT MAY BE A TOUGH VOTE 488 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,500 RIGHT NOW, AT SOME POINT, WE ARE 489 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:30,500 GOING TO HIT A RECESSION OF SOME 490 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:32,900 LEVEL OF SEVERITY AT THAT POINT 491 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:34,300 THE PROSPECT OF ADDITIONAL 492 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:35,900 REVENUE WITHOUT RAISING TAXES IS 493 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:38,000 GOING TO LOOK PRETTY ATTRACTIVE. 494 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,400 >> HIS ARGUMENT IS EXPANDING 495 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,700 GAMBLING WILL LEAD TO GREATER 496 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:43,366 ADDICTION PROBLEMS AND YOU KNOW, 497 00:13:43,366 --> 00:13:45,066 MORAL SOCIETAL ISSUES THAN CAME 498 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:45,466 UP. 499 00:13:45,466 --> 00:13:46,566 EVEN REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS 500 00:13:46,566 --> 00:13:48,466 AGO IN THIS STATE LOTTERY 501 00:13:48,466 --> 00:13:50,666 STARTED DOING ON-LINE GAMBLING. 502 00:13:50,666 --> 00:13:52,766 LAWMAKERS GOT ANGRY ABOUT THAT. 503 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:54,066 CERTAINLY THERE IS, THERE IS 504 00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:55,366 GOING TO BE PUSHBACK. 505 00:13:55,366 --> 00:13:55,966 >> ALL RIGHT. 506 00:13:55,966 --> 00:13:58,166 LET'S DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE 507 00:13:58,166 --> 00:13:58,766 FURTHER. 508 00:13:58,766 --> 00:14:11,566 REPRESENTATIVE? 509 00:14:11,566 --> 00:14:14,166 >> DEMOCRATIC STATE REP ROBERT 510 00:14:14,166 --> 00:14:17,466 KOSOWSKI OF WESTLAND IS IN HIS 511 00:14:17,466 --> 00:14:19,166 FINAL TERM IN THE MICHIGAN HOUSE 512 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:20,266 AND IS NOW RUNNING FOR THE 513 00:14:20,266 --> 00:14:20,500 SENATE. 514 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:20,966 HE SERVES ON THE HOUSE 515 00:14:20,966 --> 00:14:21,600 APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WOKRING 516 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,166 ON THE SCHOOL AID AND STATE 517 00:14:22,166 --> 00:14:22,533 POLICE BUDGETS. 518 00:14:22,533 --> 00:14:23,066 HE IS A GRADUATE OF ADRIAN 519 00:14:23,066 --> 00:14:23,566 COLLEGE AND WAYNE STATE. 520 00:14:23,566 --> 00:14:23,800 WELCOME. 521 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,266 GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 522 00:14:24,266 --> 00:14:24,900 >> GREAT TO BE ON THE BEST SHOW 523 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:25,200 IN LANSING. 524 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,066 A GOOD START THERE. 525 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:27,566 JONATHAN, GO GET HIM. 526 00:14:27,566 --> 00:14:28,866 >> MONDAY, THE U.S. SUPREME 527 00:14:28,866 --> 00:14:30,766 COURT DID PAVE THE WAY FOR 528 00:14:30,766 --> 00:14:32,466 STATES TO START OFFERING SPORTS 529 00:14:32,466 --> 00:14:33,400 BETTING IF THEY CHOOSE. 530 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,900 THEY SAID IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL 531 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:36,600 DECISION, ONE THAT SHOULD BE 532 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,500 TAKEN SERIOUSLY. 533 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,200 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK 534 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,700 HAVE YOU HAD SERIOUS 535 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:41,700 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GETTING YOUR 536 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:42,400 LEGISLATION MOVING? 537 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,800 >> SURE. 538 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,300 SO FIRST OF ALL, 539 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:45,600 THE SUPREME COURT HAD A GREAT 540 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,100 DECISION. 541 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:47,500 I MEAN THE MONOPOLY SHOULD NOT 542 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:48,900 BE. 543 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:51,366 I THINK ALL STATES BACK IN 1992 544 00:14:51,366 --> 00:14:53,066 THEY WERE GIVEN AN OPTION TO SEE 545 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,366 IF THEY WANT TO HAVE SPORTS 546 00:14:54,366 --> 00:14:54,866 BETTING. 547 00:14:54,866 --> 00:14:55,866 THAT IS LONG TIME AGO. 548 00:14:55,866 --> 00:14:57,166 I AM GLAD THEY DID THAT. 549 00:14:57,166 --> 00:14:59,066 THIS WEEK HAS BEEN A WHIRLWIND. 550 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:00,733 I AM HAPPY THE WAIT IS GOING. 551 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:01,933 IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN 552 00:15:01,933 --> 00:15:04,533 WORKING ON SINCE 2015 AND 553 00:15:04,533 --> 00:15:05,433 I INTRODUCED THIS BILL. 554 00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:06,466 THE REASON WE DID IT. 555 00:15:06,466 --> 00:15:07,766 WE LOOK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. 556 00:15:07,766 --> 00:15:09,266 ALL WE'RE DOING IS RAISING TAXES 557 00:15:09,266 --> 00:15:11,666 ON PEOPLE AT THE REGISTRATION 558 00:15:11,666 --> 00:15:13,166 FREE WITH GAS TAX. 559 00:15:13,166 --> 00:15:14,866 LOOK FOR WAYS TO TRY TO FIND OUT 560 00:15:14,866 --> 00:15:17,066 TO NOT GET MONEY FROM RESIDENTS. 561 00:15:17,066 --> 00:15:18,966 IT IS THEIR FREE WILL IF THEY 562 00:15:18,966 --> 00:15:19,866 WANT TO GAMBLE. 563 00:15:19,866 --> 00:15:20,866 THEY ARE DOING IT NOW. 564 00:15:20,866 --> 00:15:22,833 I KNOW THE SENATOR SAID IT. 565 00:15:22,833 --> 00:15:23,266 THE BLACK MARKET IS 566 00:15:23,266 --> 00:15:24,133 UNBELIEVABLE. 567 00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:27,033 THERE IS PEOPLE TAKING ON 568 00:15:27,033 --> 00:15:27,733 THREATS. 569 00:15:27,733 --> 00:15:28,833 I DON'T HAVE IT. 570 00:15:28,833 --> 00:15:30,933 I CAN GO ON ALL OF THOSE AND 571 00:15:30,933 --> 00:15:32,833 GAMBLE ILLEGALLY. 572 00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:33,933 WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING. 573 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:35,433 BUT EVEN MORE, THERE IS NO 574 00:15:35,433 --> 00:15:35,933 AWARENESS. 575 00:15:35,933 --> 00:15:37,233 WE CAN NOT HELP THE PEOPLE GOING 576 00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:38,033 ON THE PHONE. 577 00:15:38,033 --> 00:15:41,066 >> MY BILL HAS BEEN GOING TOWARD 578 00:15:41,066 --> 00:15:43,466 BEING AWARE AND THE CASINOS 579 00:15:43,466 --> 00:15:45,166 LOOKING AND THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, 580 00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:46,266 THEY LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE 581 00:15:46,266 --> 00:15:47,466 PROBLEMS WITH GAMBLING AND TRY 582 00:15:47,466 --> 00:15:48,366 TO HELP THEM. 583 00:15:48,366 --> 00:15:50,266 I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS 100%. 584 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:51,966 AT LEAST ONE IS WATCHING. 585 00:15:51,966 --> 00:15:53,266 NOT CARING IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM 586 00:15:53,266 --> 00:15:54,766 AND YOU ARE THE WHOLE SPORT? 587 00:15:54,766 --> 00:15:55,666 THE CONVERSATION WAS THE THREE 588 00:15:55,666 --> 00:15:57,333 DETROIT CASINOS? 589 00:15:57,333 --> 00:15:58,233 VERY LIMITED. 590 00:15:58,233 --> 00:16:00,800 I WILL GIVE A PLUG. 591 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,200 HE IS HELPING ON THIS ONE. 592 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,700 HE HAS HIS OWN BILL AND THEY ARE 593 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:04,700 OUT WORKING TOGETHER. 594 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:05,800 THEY ARE EXCITED. 595 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,300 WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, THOUGH, 596 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:08,600 THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS WAR 597 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,200 PLAN. 598 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 THEY HAVE TO DECIDE IF THIS AREA 599 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,700 IS BETTER TO HAVE SLOT MACHINES 600 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:14,033 OR SPORTS BOOKS. 601 00:16:14,033 --> 00:16:16,333 THEN, THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK TO 602 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:17,566 SAY A SPORTS BOOK. 603 00:16:17,566 --> 00:16:19,266 SO TOURISM IS GOING TO BE OFF 604 00:16:19,266 --> 00:16:19,966 THE CHARTS. 605 00:16:19,966 --> 00:16:21,166 THESE HOTELS ARE GOING TO BE 606 00:16:21,166 --> 00:16:22,666 BOOKED THESE ARE GOING TO BE 607 00:16:22,666 --> 00:16:23,166 PACKED. 608 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:25,066 ALONG AT THE NCAA TOURNAMENT. 609 00:16:25,066 --> 00:16:26,766 MOST PEOPLE GO TO VEGAS BECAUSE 610 00:16:26,766 --> 00:16:28,066 THEY LOVE THAT ATMOSPHERE AND 611 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:29,166 HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO 612 00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:31,233 GO TO ANY CASINO IN MICHIGAN. 613 00:16:31,233 --> 00:16:33,033 >> WELL, WHOEVER CHOOSE TO DO 614 00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:33,433 IT. 615 00:16:33,433 --> 00:16:34,733 >> YOU ARE AGAINST THE ON-LINE 616 00:16:34,733 --> 00:16:35,333 GAMING. 617 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:35,933 >> NOT AT ALL. 618 00:16:35,933 --> 00:16:37,533 HOW DOES TOURISM BENEFIT FROM 619 00:16:37,533 --> 00:16:40,533 PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING BETS ON 620 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:41,533 THEIR PHONES. 621 00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:43,033 >> WELL, I THINK, THERE IS A 622 00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:44,333 STUDY THAT WAS OUT THERE THAT 623 00:16:44,333 --> 00:16:45,833 VEGAS IS WORRIED ABOUT ON-LINE 624 00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:47,166 SPORTS AND GAMBLING AND ALL OF 625 00:16:47,166 --> 00:16:47,566 THAT. 626 00:16:47,566 --> 00:16:48,866 SO PEOPLE STILL GO THERE. 627 00:16:48,866 --> 00:16:49,966 THEY GO THERE MORE. 628 00:16:49,966 --> 00:16:52,366 LIKE IT GETS THEM EXCITED. 629 00:16:52,366 --> 00:16:53,466 YOU ARE RIGHT. 630 00:16:53,466 --> 00:16:54,466 IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THEM. 631 00:16:54,466 --> 00:16:55,966 IT WILL HELP THE GO TO CASINO 632 00:16:55,966 --> 00:16:57,066 WHICH MY BILL DOES AND SPEND 633 00:16:57,066 --> 00:16:57,766 MONEY. 634 00:16:57,766 --> 00:16:58,966 >> THE MICHIGAN BILL WOULD 635 00:16:58,966 --> 00:17:00,133 REQUIRE YOU TO BE IN THE 636 00:17:00,133 --> 00:17:00,733 BALANCE. 637 00:17:00,733 --> 00:17:02,033 THE ON-LINE WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO 638 00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:03,600 BE IN THE STATE. 639 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,400 CORRECT. 640 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,900 >> THEY WOULD GO UP IN THE STATE 641 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:08,100 SO MAYBE ARE GRABBING ACROSS THE 642 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:08,700 BOARDER. 643 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:10,000 >> WELL I COULD DO THAT NOW. 644 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,100 >> I COULD DRIVE. 645 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:12,800 I LIVE 20-MILES FROM WIN. 646 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,500 >> WELL, LET'S TALK PRACTICAL 647 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:15,100 POLITIC. 648 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:15,400 SURE. 649 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,033 >> THE SPEAKER SAID GO. 650 00:17:17,033 --> 00:17:18,233 >> WELL, THAT IS A NO. 651 00:17:18,233 --> 00:17:20,066 >> THAT IS A NOT. 652 00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:22,166 >> I HAVE NOT TALKED TO HIM. 653 00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:24,766 WELL, I AM SURE. 654 00:17:24,766 --> 00:17:26,066 >> I AM SURE THEY HAVE. 655 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:27,366 I AM WORKING ON MY SIDE OF THE 656 00:17:27,366 --> 00:17:28,666 AISLE GETTING VOTE AND I DON'T 657 00:17:28,666 --> 00:17:30,366 THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING 658 00:17:30,366 --> 00:17:31,466 VOTE OOMPH WELL, WHAT IS THE 659 00:17:31,466 --> 00:17:33,166 ARGUMENT THAT YOU FACED. 660 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:35,266 WELL REALLY I HAVE NOT HEARD 661 00:17:35,266 --> 00:17:35,666 ONE. 662 00:17:35,666 --> 00:17:36,733 THEM WITHIN THAT I HEARD IS 663 00:17:36,733 --> 00:17:38,533 WHILE GAMBLING IS PRONG. 664 00:17:38,533 --> 00:17:40,433 THAT A THAT IS THE CASE THEN 665 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:42,333 LET'S BLOW UP THE WHOLE SYSTEM. 666 00:17:42,333 --> 00:17:43,833 THERE IS NO MORE BINGOS OR$30 667 00:17:43,833 --> 00:17:46,833 SCRATCH-OFFS AND NO MORE THREE 668 00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:48,333 OR FOUR DIFFERENT NUMBERS THERE 669 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:50,333 IS NO MORE LOTTERY IN THE SCHOOL 670 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:50,933 AID. 671 00:17:50,933 --> 00:17:51,533 >> THAT IS OUT. 672 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:52,866 THAT IS GAMBLING. 673 00:17:52,866 --> 00:17:53,966 >> THIS IS MORE OF A SKILL THAN 674 00:17:53,966 --> 00:17:54,766 A SCRATCH-OFF. 675 00:17:54,766 --> 00:17:58,966 WELL, YOU HAVE GOTTEN ANY 676 00:17:58,966 --> 00:18:01,333 INDICATION THAT SPORTS LEAGUES 677 00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:03,033 ARE GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN MY. 678 00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:04,533 THEY USE THAT LEAD THOUGH 679 00:18:04,533 --> 00:18:05,233 SUPREME COURT. 680 00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:06,533 >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. 681 00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:08,233 INTEGRITY PIECES, YOU KNOW? 682 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:09,333 THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS AND 683 00:18:09,333 --> 00:18:10,800 MILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND 684 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,800 BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND 685 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,100 OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT TO LOOK TO 686 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,400 SEE WHATEVER THEY CAN GET MORE 687 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,900 MONEY AND I THINK IT IS A BAD 688 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:19,933 ATTEMPT ON THEIR PART THEY ARE 689 00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:24,833 GOING TO GET IT. 690 00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:28,066 THEY GO TO PLAY. 691 00:18:28,066 --> 00:18:29,566 LET HIM GET THE MONEY FROM THAT. 692 00:18:29,566 --> 00:18:30,666 A DO YOU NEED THE PROFESSIONAL 693 00:18:30,666 --> 00:18:31,966 SPORTS TEAMS TO SIGN OFF ON 694 00:18:31,966 --> 00:18:32,866 THIS. 695 00:18:32,866 --> 00:18:33,266 >> YEAH. 696 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:34,166 NOT TO MY IMAGINE. 697 00:18:34,166 --> 00:18:36,066 THIS IS A STATE ISSUE. 698 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:37,766 >> SO WHEN DOES DETROIT TIGERS 699 00:18:37,766 --> 00:18:38,366 COME TO YOU. 700 00:18:38,366 --> 00:18:40,366 LOOK, WE DON'T MIND GAMBLING. 701 00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:43,333 >> WELL, GIVE IT TO US. 702 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:44,433 GIVE IT TO THE STATE. 703 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:45,433 THAT WAS WHAT I WOULD SAY. 704 00:18:45,433 --> 00:18:46,533 WHAT IS THE NEXT SNEAP SO THE 705 00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:48,033 NEXT STEP, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD 706 00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:48,933 HEARING ON THIS. 707 00:18:48,933 --> 00:18:50,233 WE DIDN'T HAVE A VOTE BECAUSE WE 708 00:18:50,233 --> 00:18:51,433 ARE WAITING FOR THE SUPREME 709 00:18:51,433 --> 00:18:51,733 COURT. 710 00:18:51,733 --> 00:18:52,933 WHY WASTE OUR TIME IF THAT IS 711 00:18:52,933 --> 00:18:54,033 GOING TO COME BACK. 712 00:18:54,033 --> 00:18:55,533 SO I TALK TO HIM. 713 00:18:55,533 --> 00:18:57,233 WE'LL HAVE HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK A 714 00:18:57,233 --> 00:18:59,633 COMMITTEE HEARING AND THAT IS 715 00:18:59,633 --> 00:19:00,533 GOING TO GO WELL. 716 00:19:00,533 --> 00:19:02,333 YOU WILL SEE A MEAN? THERE AND 717 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:04,833 SEE THEM EXCITED AND I THINK I 718 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:06,433 THINK THIS IS A GO. 719 00:19:06,433 --> 00:19:09,333 THIS IS A GOOD DOUBLE DOWN ON 11 720 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:10,033 FOR SURE. 721 00:19:10,033 --> 00:19:11,133 >> YOU HEARD THE COMMENT? 722 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:12,633 WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THE 723 00:19:12,633 --> 00:19:13,433 GOVERNOR? 724 00:19:13,433 --> 00:19:15,233 HAS OTHER ISSUES AND HAS TO 725 00:19:15,233 --> 00:19:15,833 WORRY ABOUT. 726 00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:16,833 I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WHEN YOU 727 00:19:16,833 --> 00:19:17,833 LOOK AT IT 728 00:19:17,833 --> 00:19:20,233 WE JUST WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW 729 00:19:20,233 --> 00:19:21,333 MUCH MONEY NOW. 730 00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:23,833 BECAUSE IT IS A BLACK MARKET. 731 00:19:23,833 --> 00:19:25,433 >> WE HAVE$1BILLION. 732 00:19:25,433 --> 00:19:26,033 I DID. 733 00:19:26,033 --> 00:19:26,933 WAYS NOT ME. 734 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:27,933 IT WAS NOT ME. 735 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:29,433 IT WAS WILLIAM SPORTS BROOK CAME 736 00:19:29,433 --> 00:19:30,933 FROM VEGAS AND THEY TOOK A SMALL 737 00:19:30,933 --> 00:19:34,266 SAM LING FROM NEVADA WITHOUT 738 00:19:34,266 --> 00:19:36,166 VEGAS END IT. 739 00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:37,466 THEY DID THEIR DEAL. 740 00:19:37,466 --> 00:19:39,166 THEY HAD$300 MILLION FOR THREE 741 00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:39,966 COUNTIES. 742 00:19:39,966 --> 00:19:40,666 WITHOUT INVESTIGATE GAN THERE 743 00:19:40,666 --> 00:19:41,066 IS. 744 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:41,966 WE STARTED. 745 00:19:41,966 --> 00:19:43,066 IT COULD BE ABOUT 746 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:45,766 FROM$300MILLION TO$1. 747 00:19:45,766 --> 00:19:47,266 ABOUT THAT IS GOOD RANGE. 748 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:48,866 I WOULDN'T MINE GET$1BILLION. 749 00:19:48,866 --> 00:19:50,233 HAVE YOU DRIVE IN THE ROADS? 750 00:19:50,233 --> 00:19:51,533 >> ARE THE COPS GOING TO FIGHT 751 00:19:51,533 --> 00:19:53,233 YOU ON THIS? 752 00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:55,633 >> YOU GOT LAW ON THE BOARD. 753 00:19:55,633 --> 00:19:56,533 I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULD DO 754 00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:57,133 IT. 755 00:19:57,133 --> 00:19:58,633 >> IT IS EXPANSION OF GAMBLING. 756 00:19:58,633 --> 00:20:01,633 >> IT TAKES AWAY THE BOOK. 757 00:20:01,633 --> 00:20:02,133 IT DOESN'T. 758 00:20:02,133 --> 00:20:04,033 IT WILL CIRCUMVENT A LITTLE BIT. 759 00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:05,333 >> WHAT ABOUT THE NATIVE 760 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,433 AMERICAN INCH THEY HAD ISSUES 761 00:20:06,433 --> 00:20:07,966 WITH LEGISLATION. 762 00:20:07,966 --> 00:20:09,366 WHERE ARE THEY HOOT WOULD SO WE 763 00:20:09,366 --> 00:20:10,866 RAILROAD, WOG WITH THEM NOW. 764 00:20:10,866 --> 00:20:11,966 WITH THEM, THEY HAVE MATTER 765 00:20:11,966 --> 00:20:12,866 CASINOS. 766 00:20:12,866 --> 00:20:13,966 SO IT IS NOT LIKE DETROIT 767 00:20:13,966 --> 00:20:15,866 CASINOS HAVE A LOT MORE SPACE. 768 00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:17,300 THAT IS WHERE I BROUGHT IT UP. 769 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:18,400 THESE STUDY EARLY. 770 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,900 THEY HAVE LOOK TO SAY WE CAN 771 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,600 MAKE THIS MUCH HERE AND HAVE 20 772 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,866 SLOT MACHINES TO MAKE MORE. 773 00:20:22,866 --> 00:20:23,966 THAT IS THEIR DECISION. 774 00:20:23,966 --> 00:20:25,666 >> ARE THEY ONBOARD. 775 00:20:25,666 --> 00:20:26,466 BELIEVE THEY WILL. 776 00:20:26,466 --> 00:20:27,166 A ALL RIGHT. 777 00:20:27,166 --> 00:20:31,866 GOING BACK TO RENEGOTIATION OF 778 00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:32,666 THE COMPACT. 779 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:33,766 >> THEY ARE NOT ONBOARD. 780 00:20:33,766 --> 00:20:35,066 THEY DIDN'T SIGN OFF YET. 781 00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:36,966 I AM SURE WE'LL GET THEM. 782 00:20:36,966 --> 00:20:38,966 >> DOES THAT MEAN LESS REVENUE 783 00:20:38,966 --> 00:20:41,500 FOR THE STATE FROM THE CASINOS. 784 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:41,800 >> YES. 785 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,800 THERE WILL BE. 786 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,300 THAT WILL BE NEGOTIATED. 787 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:45,400 SURE. 788 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:45,800 >> YES. 789 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,600 YOU ARE WILLING TO LEGISLATE AT 790 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,800 THE END OF THE YEAR. 791 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,200 >> WELL, I AM NOT A GAMBLER. 792 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,200 I WOULD BET MY JOB ON IT. 793 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,900 >> ALL RIGHT. 794 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:55,300 >> I AM. 795 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:55,900 ALL RIGHT. 796 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:56,200 ALL RIGHT. 797 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,466 >> ALL RIGHT. 798 00:20:58,466 --> 00:21:00,233 ALL RIGHT. 799 00:21:00,233 --> 00:21:01,733 WHAT ABOUT BUYING SPORTS BET 800 00:21:01,733 --> 00:21:03,433 AGENT LOTTERY TERMINALS. 801 00:21:03,433 --> 00:21:05,233 THAT IS ANOTHER BILL I PUT THAT 802 00:21:05,233 --> 00:21:07,333 ONE IN BACK IN 15 OR 16 BECAUSE 803 00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:09,033 HERE IS MY GREATEST STORY. 804 00:21:09,033 --> 00:21:10,933 I WENT AND GOT SOME MILK AND 805 00:21:10,933 --> 00:21:13,866 WAYS IN A PARTY STORE. 806 00:21:13,866 --> 00:21:16,366 THERE WAS ONE. 807 00:21:16,366 --> 00:21:18,300 HE PLAYED 283. 808 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:20,400 WITH THE THREE AND FOUR DIMMING 809 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,300 GIT NUMBERS AND HANDED HEM 810 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:23,800 THREE$100. 811 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,100 THIS IS EVERY DAY YOU SEE PLACE 812 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:25,600 EVERY DAY. 813 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,100 >> WELL, I SAID WAIT A SECOND. 814 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,600 HE CAN PLAY$280 AND NOBODY IS 815 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,066 WATCHING HIM CARING ABOUT HIM 816 00:21:31,066 --> 00:21:32,866 BUT I CAN NOT WAKE UP SAY I WILL 817 00:21:32,866 --> 00:21:35,366 BET ON DETROIT LIONS$2. 818 00:21:35,366 --> 00:21:36,066 DOESN'T MAKE. 819 00:21:36,066 --> 00:21:37,366 YOU NEED A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE TO 820 00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:38,666 DO THAT RIGHT. 821 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:39,866 >> FOR THAT ONE, YES. 822 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:40,766 >> A SEASON FOES NO. 823 00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:42,066 WELL, DO YOU. 824 00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:43,166 YOU NEED THAT THREE QUARTERS 825 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:44,166 VOTE TO CHANGE. 826 00:21:44,166 --> 00:21:45,066 >> I FOR THAT PIECE. 827 00:21:45,066 --> 00:21:45,466 >> YEAH. 828 00:21:45,466 --> 00:21:47,000 BUT NOT THE OTHER ONE WHICH I AM 829 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,900 MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER 830 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:48,300 ONE. 831 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,000 I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE TO GET 832 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,900 MOMENTUM GOING. 833 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:52,500 I WANT TO PUT OUT ALL. 834 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,000 >> CHALLENGE YOU ON THAT. 835 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,400 >> YEAH. 836 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400 WELL, THIS THE SPORTS BETTING 837 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,900 YOU THINK YOU NEED THE 50. 838 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,000 >> YEAH. 839 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,466 >> ALL RIGHT. 840 00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:01,766 YOU ARE RUNNING FOR THE SENATE? 841 00:22:01,766 --> 00:22:02,566 >> I AM. 842 00:22:02,566 --> 00:22:03,633 >> WHAT IS THE ISSUE OUT THERE? 843 00:22:03,633 --> 00:22:05,533 THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS ROADS. 844 00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:07,033 I COULD TALK ABOUT THAT ALL DAY. 845 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:08,533 THE OTHER ONE IS INSURANCE. 846 00:22:08,533 --> 00:22:10,933 WELL, I MEAN, THIS CLAIMS FUN 847 00:22:10,933 --> 00:22:12,833 HAD$20BILLION AND YOU KNOW ALL 848 00:22:12,833 --> 00:22:13,333 ABOUT THIS. 849 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,033 MAIN, LET'S GET TRANSPARENCY 850 00:22:15,033 --> 00:22:16,866 SHIFT WE GET A BUNCH OF THOSE 851 00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:17,366 THROUGHOUT AND YOU HAVE 852 00:22:17,366 --> 00:22:19,066 INSURANCE RATES BASED ON THE 853 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:20,400 CREDIT SCORE. 854 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,700 I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO HAVE A 855 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,100 BIG CREDIT SCORE TO DRIVE GOOD 856 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:24,700 OR ON THE ZIP CODE. 857 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:26,100 THE COMPANIES SAY THAT IS A WAY 858 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,900 TO LIMIT THE RISK AND LIKE. 859 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:28,900 >> OH WELL. 860 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:30,200 >> WELL. 861 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,700 DOESN'T THE CREDIT SCORE TELL 862 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,200 SOMETHING BUT. 863 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,200 >> HE DON'T THINK SO. 864 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,900 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 865 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:35,200 >> WELL. 866 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,800 550. 867 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,500 WELL. 868 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:37,766 IT IS HIGHER THAN THAT. 869 00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:38,366 NOT MUCH. 870 00:22:38,366 --> 00:22:40,066 I THINK IT IS DISCRIMINATION. 871 00:22:40,066 --> 00:22:41,166 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 872 00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:42,266 DRIVING RECORD. 873 00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:43,666 IT IS RY DICK LOSS. 874 00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:45,266 THOSE ARE TWO ISSUES. 875 00:22:45,266 --> 00:22:46,466 ROAD IS A BIG ONE. 876 00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:48,666 HE TRY TO DELL THEM TO PUT$17 A 877 00:22:48,666 --> 00:22:50,966 MILLION BACK IN THERE AND DON'T 878 00:22:50,966 --> 00:22:52,566 AC LIKE ARE DOING ME A FAVOR. 879 00:22:52,566 --> 00:22:54,700 SHOULD BE TAKING CARE OF THESE 880 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:55,100 ROAD. 881 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,800 NOW THE LAST TEN YEARS. 882 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,400 WELL, IT HAS BEEN LIKE THIS ON 883 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,200 THE ROADS. 884 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,566 MO MORE FUNDING. 885 00:23:00,566 --> 00:23:02,666 WE JUST RAISED IT BY 29. 886 00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:03,766 HOW CAN IT NOT BE GOING UP AND 887 00:23:03,766 --> 00:23:04,666 DOWN. 888 00:23:04,666 --> 00:23:05,766 IT SHOULD BE GOING UP AND ONLY 889 00:23:05,766 --> 00:23:06,566 UP. 890 00:23:06,566 --> 00:23:06,966 IT IS NOT. 891 00:23:06,966 --> 00:23:07,666 >> ALL RIGHT. 892 00:23:07,666 --> 00:23:09,166 >> WERE ONBOARD WITH THE PLAN. 893 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:11,433 >> WELL, SO FOR THE MOST PART I 894 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:11,733 WAS. 895 00:23:11,733 --> 00:23:13,433 THE WORSE THING ABOUT THAT IS A 896 00:23:13,433 --> 00:23:14,733 LIMITED CAP THERE IF SOMETHING 897 00:23:14,733 --> 00:23:16,433 DID HAPPEN SEE YOU COULD NEVER 898 00:23:16,433 --> 00:23:17,866 LOOK AT ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS 899 00:23:17,866 --> 00:23:19,766 THE STATE TO HAPPEN TO THEM AND 900 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:22,366 THE FAMILY WENT BACK RESPECT I 901 00:23:22,366 --> 00:23:23,466 COULD NOT DO IT S. HEAR THERE IS 902 00:23:23,466 --> 00:23:25,166 A NEW PLAN COMING UP I WANT TO 903 00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:26,900 LOWER INSURANCE RATES. 904 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:27,800 >> WHAT DO YOU NEAR THE CAP HE 905 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,900 IS THE CENTER PIECE OF THE 906 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:29,300 PLANT. 907 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:30,100 >> IT IS. 908 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:30,400 IT ITS. 909 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,800 THAT IS WHERE THE SAYINGS ARE. 910 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,200 WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE CHOICE 911 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,700 MAYBE EXPLODE INCLUDING SENIORS 912 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:36,100 AND A LOT OF THINGS THROUGHOUT 913 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,400 WHICH I WILL NOT TALK TO BECAUSE 914 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,700 IT IS WELL. 915 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:39,600 YOU HAVE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT 916 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,000 THIS. 917 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,900 >> NOT ON THIS ONE YET. 918 00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:41,500 >> OK. 919 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:42,800 WHO HAVE YOU TALKED TO? 920 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,700 >> I TALKED TO COLLEAGUES WHO 921 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:45,166 HAVE TALKED PROBABLY SOME OF THE 922 00:23:45,166 --> 00:23:45,966 THE STAFF. 923 00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:47,066 >> WHEN SHOULD WE LOOK FORWARD 924 00:23:47,066 --> 00:23:47,866 TO SEEING THAT? 925 00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:48,766 >> YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING LIGHT 926 00:23:48,766 --> 00:23:49,866 AFTER THIS AFTER BREAK IN. 927 00:23:49,866 --> 00:23:51,166 AFTER THE SUMMER BLEAK WHEN WE 928 00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:51,966 COME BACK? 929 00:23:51,966 --> 00:23:52,666 >> YEAH. 930 00:23:52,666 --> 00:23:53,766 >> AFTER THE PRIMARY. 931 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:54,166 >> YEAH. 932 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,466 AFTER THE PRIMARY WHEN PEOPLE 933 00:23:55,466 --> 00:23:56,466 KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE HEAR 934 00:23:56,466 --> 00:23:57,766 AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND 935 00:23:57,766 --> 00:23:58,666 THEY DON'T MAKE IT. 936 00:23:58,666 --> 00:23:59,066 1:00. 937 00:23:59,066 --> 00:23:59,466 >> RIGHT. 938 00:23:59,466 --> 00:24:01,366 YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF 939 00:24:01,366 --> 00:24:02,566 TIME BETWEEN THE BREAK AND THE 940 00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:03,866 ELECTION 1:00 DO YOU THINK IT 941 00:24:03,866 --> 00:24:05,866 MAY GET PASSED OFF UNTIL LAME 942 00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:06,266 DUCK. 943 00:24:06,266 --> 00:24:06,966 >> KITE. 944 00:24:06,966 --> 00:24:08,166 IT IS POSSIBLE YOU MO HE. 945 00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:09,066 WHATEVER IT IS. 946 00:24:09,066 --> 00:24:09,966 IT IS POSSIBLE. 947 00:24:09,966 --> 00:24:11,166 IT IS POSSIBLE. 948 00:24:11,166 --> 00:24:11,666 >> ALL RIGHT. 949 00:24:11,666 --> 00:24:12,666 >> LIKELY PROBABLY. 950 00:24:12,666 --> 00:24:13,366 >> LIKELY. 951 00:24:13,366 --> 00:24:14,866 >> WE COULD SAVE PEOPLE MONEY. 952 00:24:14,866 --> 00:24:15,266 NOW? 953 00:24:15,266 --> 00:24:16,500 HE DO IN CARE WHEN HATE PEPS. 954 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:18,166 KITE HAPPEN THE LAST DAY OF 955 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:18,666 SESSION. 956 00:24:18,666 --> 00:24:19,466 HE DON'T CARE. 957 00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:20,166 >> REPRESENTATIVE SOMEBODY 958 00:24:20,166 --> 00:24:22,466 DESCRIBED YOU AS POOR MEAN 959 00:24:22,466 --> 00:24:24,666 HARVEY SAN NAN BY THAT THEY 960 00:24:24,666 --> 00:24:27,366 MEANT BY THAT THEY HEN, WORKING 961 00:24:27,366 --> 00:24:28,266 WITH ME HERE. 962 00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:28,666 ALL RIGHT. 963 00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:31,066 BY THAT THEY MEANT YOU WANDERED 964 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:31,966 OVER ON HER TO SIDE. 965 00:24:31,966 --> 00:24:35,600 YOU ARE WILLING TO HELP US. 966 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,700 >> YOUR VOTE IS AVAILABLE. 967 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:37,100 >> SURE. 968 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,000 >> SURE. 969 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,100 >> SO HOW MUCH FLAK DO YOU GREAT 970 00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:40,800 THE CAUCUS. 971 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,600 A OH, LIGHT. 972 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,000 OH. 973 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,700 A LOT. 974 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,000 I DON'T GO THERE ANY MORE. 975 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,800 HE WILL TELL YU. 976 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,300 LET ME TELL YOU THIS QUICK STORY 977 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:46,600 HERE. 978 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,400 YOU DIDN'T HEAR PRESIDENT? 979 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,100 SO I WAS ON THE SHOW THE OTHER 980 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:49,400 DAY. 981 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,066 NO NOW I AM GETTING COMPARED TO 982 00:24:51,066 --> 00:24:52,266 THE BEST FRIEND UP THERE. 983 00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:56,566 BUT FRANK SAID YOU SOUND ALIKE. 984 00:24:56,566 --> 00:24:58,066 WELL, HE GOES DON'T BE MAD AT 985 00:24:58,066 --> 00:24:58,766 ME. 986 00:24:58,766 --> 00:24:58,966 OK. 987 00:24:58,966 --> 00:25:02,233 HE GOES PATRICK I LAUGHED OUT 988 00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:03,733 LOUD THIS IS ON THE RADIO. 989 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:06,533 PATRICK IS THE GUY BUT OUR 990 00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,466 THEORIES TO DIFFERENT. 991 00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:11,066 HARVEY IS, I SAT NEXT TO HIM. 992 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:11,966 I LEARNED A LOT. 993 00:25:11,966 --> 00:25:13,466 YOU KNOW. 994 00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:13,866 >> I DO NOT. 995 00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:14,366 I DO NOT. 996 00:25:14,366 --> 00:25:16,466 I DO NOT. 997 00:25:16,466 --> 00:25:17,366 >> YEAH. 998 00:25:17,366 --> 00:25:17,766 HE IS BETTER. 999 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:19,866 IT IS VOLUNTARY BECAUSE I GET 1000 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:20,766 MORE STUFF DONE STANDING 1001 00:25:20,766 --> 00:25:21,566 THROUGHOUT MEETING WITH 1002 00:25:21,566 --> 00:25:23,066 LOBBYISTS AND MEETING WITH 1003 00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:24,833 COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE AND 1004 00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:26,933 SOME OF MY COLLEAGUE AS FAR AS 1005 00:25:26,933 --> 00:25:28,033 THOSE THINGS THAT I MADE THIS 1006 00:25:28,033 --> 00:25:29,933 DECISION AND I DON'T WANT TO SIT 1007 00:25:29,933 --> 00:25:32,133 IN THERE AND RISK. 1008 00:25:32,133 --> 00:25:33,833 HE IS A GREAT LEADER WILL NOT 1009 00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:34,633 SAY IS NOT. 1010 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:36,233 TRIED TO GET ME IN THERE AND ON 1011 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:37,633 IMPORTANT ISSUE I GO IN WHERE 1012 00:25:37,633 --> 00:25:38,933 NEEDS ME. 1013 00:25:38,933 --> 00:25:40,266 THEY ARE TALKING ON TUESDAY 1014 00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:41,566 ABOUT WHAT THE AIRMEN DAYS. 1015 00:25:41,566 --> 00:25:42,666 I CAN READ AGAIN. 1016 00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:44,766 AND I CAN WORK THE SIZE ON WHAT 1017 00:25:44,766 --> 00:25:46,466 WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH IT. 1018 00:25:46,466 --> 00:25:47,766 YOU GET A LOT OF STUFF DONE. 1019 00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:48,266 >> OVERTIME. 1020 00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:49,766 >> I DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. 1021 00:25:49,766 --> 00:25:50,766 >> ALL RIGHT. 1022 00:25:50,766 --> 00:25:52,066 >> DANGEROUS THING TO SAY. 1023 00:25:52,066 --> 00:25:52,466 ALL RIGHT. 1024 00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:53,166 THANKS. 1025 00:25:53,166 --> 00:25:54,466 >> LET'S DO THAT LET'S TAKE 1026 00:25:54,466 --> 00:25:55,266 BREAK. 1027 00:25:55,266 --> 00:25:57,033 IF YOU WANT TO WATCH MORE GO TO 1028 00:25:57,033 --> 00:25:59,733 WKAR FOR MORE OF THE GOOD FRIEND 1029 00:25:59,733 --> 00:26:03,500 OVER HERE MR.KOSOWSKI SEE YOU 1030 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:03,900 THEN. 1031 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:05,700 PRODUCTION MADE POSSIBLE IN PART 1032 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,900 BY A GRANT FROM TRUSCOTT-ROSSMAN 1033 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,000 MICHIGAN AND ONLY COMMUNICATION 1034 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 FIRM SERVING STATEWIDE NATION 1035 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,533 AND A INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS 1036 00:26:14,533 --> 00:26:16,233 OFFICES IN LANSING, DETROIT AND 1037 00:26:16,233 --> 00:26:16,966 GRAND RAPIDS. 1038 00:26:16,966 --> 00:26:18,966 TRUSCOTT ROSSMAN.COM. 1039 00:26:18,966 --> 00:26:20,266 HAGER FOX HEAT AND 1040 00:26:20,266 --> 00:26:21,466 AIR-CONDITIONING COMPANY, 1041 00:26:21,466 --> 00:26:22,766 SERVING THE GREATER LANSING AREA 1042 00:26:22,766 --> 00:26:25,366 SINCE 1941 FOR PROVIDING 1043 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:27,966 SOLUTIONS AND CHOICES FROM HOME 1044 00:26:27,966 --> 00:26:29,666 COME FOR DURING AL MICHIGAN 1045 00:26:29,666 --> 00:26:30,033 SEASON. 1046 00:26:30,033 --> 00:26:31,733 HAGER FOX AND BRYANT WHATEVER IT 1047 00:26:31,733 --> 00:26:32,233 TAKES. 1048 00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:33,333 HAGERFOX.COM. 1049 00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:35,633 AND BY MSU COLLEGE OF 1050 00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:38,033 AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL 1051 00:26:38,033 --> 00:26:39,333 RESOURCES MICHIGAN STATE 1052 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:40,533 UNIVERSITY WANTS TO BE A TRUSTED 1053 00:26:40,533 --> 00:26:41,433 PARTNER IN CONVERSATIONS WITH 1054 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:43,333 ABOUT FOOD AND WHERE IT COMES 1055 00:26:43,333 --> 00:26:45,033 FROM INCLUDING THE IMPACT ON OUR 1056 00:26:45,033 --> 00:26:46,533 HEALTH AND ON THE PLANET. 1057 00:26:46,533 --> 00:26:51,166 LEARN MORE 1058 00:26:51,166 --> 00:26:54,366 FOR MORE OFF THE VISIT WKAR. 1059 00:26:54,366 --> 00:26:55,866 MICHIGAN L TELEVISION STATIONS 1060 00:26:55,866 --> 00:27:08,200 HAVE THE PRODUCTION COST OF A 1061 00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:08,200 THE RECORD WITH TIM SKUBICK.