1 00:00:04,833 --> 00:00:05,933 >>> THANK YOU FOR 2 00:00:05,933 --> 00:00:06,200 TUNING IN. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,200 OUR GUEST IS A 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:07,866 VETERAN REPUBLICAN 5 00:00:07,866 --> 00:00:09,433 MEMBER OF THE HOUSE 6 00:00:09,433 --> 00:00:10,400 BUDGET COMMITTEE. 7 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,466 PHIL GREEN WILL 8 00:00:11,466 --> 00:00:12,466 EXPLAIN HIS VOTE ON 9 00:00:12,466 --> 00:00:13,466 THE NEW STATE 10 00:00:13,466 --> 00:00:14,133 BUDGET. 11 00:00:14,133 --> 00:00:15,433 WHAT'S THE FALLOUT 12 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:16,366 FROM THE BUDGET IN 13 00:00:16,366 --> 00:00:19,466 THE MICHIGAN ELECTOR 14 00:00:19,466 --> 00:00:19,933 ELECTORATE. 15 00:00:19,933 --> 00:00:21,533 CLARA AND LAURA WILL 16 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:22,633 BE SITTING WITH US 17 00:00:22,633 --> 00:00:25,866 AS WE GET THE 18 00:00:25,866 --> 00:00:27,266 INSIDE-OUT 19 00:00:27,266 --> 00:00:28,266 OFF-THE-RECORD. 20 00:00:28,266 --> 00:00:30,066 >> PRODUCTION OF OFF 21 00:00:30,066 --> 00:00:31,266 THE RECORD IS MADE 22 00:00:31,266 --> 00:00:31,800 BY? 23 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,833 MARTIN WAYMIRE, A FULL 24 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:35,633 SERVICE 25 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:36,866 COMMUNICATION AGENCY 26 00:00:36,866 --> 00:00:37,866 PARTNERING WITH 27 00:00:37,866 --> 00:00:39,333 CLIENTS, DIGITAL 28 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:40,333 MARKETING, AND 29 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:42,133 PUBLIC POLICY. 30 00:00:42,133 --> 00:00:45,200 LEARN MORE ON THEIR 31 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:45,600 WEBSITE. 32 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,700 THIS EDITION OF OFF 33 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:50,566 THE RECORD WITH TIM 34 00:00:50,566 --> 00:00:50,933 SKUBICK. 35 00:00:50,933 --> 00:00:51,833 >> THANK YOU FOR 36 00:00:51,833 --> 00:00:52,533 JOINING US. 37 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:55,766 NICE TO HAVE YOU. 38 00:00:55,766 --> 00:00:57,966 WE HAD A WEEK TO 39 00:00:57,966 --> 00:00:59,100 DIGEST WHAT THEY DID 40 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:00,566 LAST WEEK, LAUREN. 41 00:01:00,566 --> 00:01:01,233 WHAT ARE PEOPLE 42 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:02,700 TALKING ABOUT? 43 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:04,700 >> YEAH, I THINK 44 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:05,700 IT'S NOTABLE THEY 45 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,166 GOT THE BUDGET DONE 46 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:08,133 BEFORE SUMMER BREAK. 47 00:01:08,133 --> 00:01:10,733 A LOT OF SCHOOLS AND 48 00:01:10,733 --> 00:01:11,433 OBSERVERS WERE 49 00:01:11,433 --> 00:01:12,300 WATCHING AND WAITING 50 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:14,800 TO SEE IF THAT WOULD 51 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,300 HAPPEN. 52 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:16,166 >> THEY WERE ALWAYS 53 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:17,333 GOING TO DO THAT. 54 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:18,766 >> I THINK, IN THE 55 00:01:18,766 --> 00:01:20,033 LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, 56 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:21,366 WE HEARD A LOT OF 57 00:01:21,366 --> 00:01:22,700 TALK ABOUT THE PET 58 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:23,533 PROJECTS THAT HAVE 59 00:01:23,533 --> 00:01:24,400 GOTTEN IN THERE. 60 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,966 QUIET A BIT OF THEM 61 00:01:25,966 --> 00:01:27,100 AROUND THE STATE. 62 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:29,433 THERE HAS CERTAINLY 63 00:01:29,433 --> 00:01:33,733 BEEN CONSERNATION. 64 00:01:33,733 --> 00:01:34,866 THERE WERE SOME THAT 65 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:36,033 CROSSED OVER AS 66 00:01:36,033 --> 00:01:36,233 WELL. 67 00:01:36,233 --> 00:01:38,733 A LOT OF PARTISAN 68 00:01:38,733 --> 00:01:40,666 OPPOSITION TO THE 69 00:01:40,666 --> 00:01:41,466 BUDGET. 70 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:42,133 OVERALL, THE 71 00:01:42,133 --> 00:01:43,033 DEMOCRATS ARE 72 00:01:43,033 --> 00:01:44,133 SAYING, HEY, WE DID 73 00:01:44,133 --> 00:01:46,633 A LOT OF THE THINGS 74 00:01:46,633 --> 00:01:49,166 WE PROMISED WE'D DO. 75 00:01:49,166 --> 00:01:51,066 PUT MONEY INTO 76 00:01:51,066 --> 00:01:52,000 SCHOOLS, 77 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 INFRASTRUCTURE, 78 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,200 WATER. 79 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,800 THERE IS A LOT THEY 80 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,233 ARE TRYING TO TALK 81 00:01:56,233 --> 00:01:56,433 ABOUT. 82 00:01:56,433 --> 00:01:57,633 THERE IS OTHER 83 00:01:57,633 --> 00:01:58,266 CHATTER. 84 00:01:58,266 --> 00:02:00,400 >> WHY DO WE MAKE A 85 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,266 BIG DEAL ABOUT POOR 86 00:02:03,266 --> 00:02:05,966 SPENDING IN THE 87 00:02:05,966 --> 00:02:06,266 LEGISLATURE. 88 00:02:06,266 --> 00:02:07,800 IT GRINDS OUT PORK. 89 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,833 >> YOU WILL FIND 90 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:10,366 THIS IN EVERY 91 00:02:10,366 --> 00:02:10,766 BUDGET. 92 00:02:10,766 --> 00:02:11,766 THESE PROJECTS THEY 93 00:02:11,766 --> 00:02:13,133 ARE TRYING TO PURSUE 94 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,133 TO BRING BACK MONEY 95 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:16,700 TO THEIR DISTRICTS. 96 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:17,433 >> THAT'S WHAT THEY 97 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:19,900 ARE PAID TO DO. 98 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:20,500 >> TRUE. 99 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:21,600 >> HOW DO THEY MAKE 100 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,866 THIS DECISION. 101 00:02:22,866 --> 00:02:24,533 HOW DO THEY CHOSE 102 00:02:24,533 --> 00:02:26,866 THIS PARK IN THIS 103 00:02:26,866 --> 00:02:28,466 TOWNSHIP GETS 104 00:02:28,466 --> 00:02:29,133 $500,000 BUT THIS 105 00:02:29,133 --> 00:02:30,066 PARK DOESN'T. 106 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:31,400 THIS IS GETTING 107 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,700 COVERAGE. 108 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:32,733 WHEN THEY DROP A 109 00:02:32,733 --> 00:02:33,600 BILLION DOLLARS THIS 110 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,966 WAY IT RAISES 111 00:02:34,966 --> 00:02:35,233 QUESTIONS. 112 00:02:35,233 --> 00:02:36,366 ANYONE CAN GET A 113 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:38,366 BUDGET PASSED IF YOU 114 00:02:38,366 --> 00:02:41,133 TURN ON THE CHUCK E. 115 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:42,933 CHEESE CASH MACHINE. 116 00:02:42,933 --> 00:02:44,766 OH, YOU NEED A 117 00:02:44,766 --> 00:02:45,466 BUDGET FOR 118 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:45,733 SOMETHING. 119 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:47,300 THIS IS A STRATEGY 120 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:49,233 THEY USE. 121 00:02:49,233 --> 00:02:50,900 IT DESERVES TO BE 122 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:51,933 SPOTLIGHTED. 123 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:54,566 >> I'M NOT SAYING IT 124 00:02:54,566 --> 00:02:55,233 SHOULDN'T BUT DR. 125 00:02:55,233 --> 00:02:56,500 WILSON ARE WE 126 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:56,800 SURPRISED? 127 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,933 YOU GO TO SOMEONE 128 00:02:57,933 --> 00:02:59,500 YOU KNOW ON 129 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,100 APPROPRIATION AND 130 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:01,600 SAY STICK IN 75 131 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,700 MILLION FOR THIS. 132 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:04,500 OH, BY THE WAY, I 133 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:05,833 WANT SOMETHING IN 134 00:03:05,833 --> 00:03:06,233 RETURN. 135 00:03:06,233 --> 00:03:07,366 WELCOME TO LANSING. 136 00:03:07,366 --> 00:03:08,433 >> WHAT WILL THEY DO 137 00:03:08,433 --> 00:03:09,166 WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE 138 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:10,700 THIS TYPE OF MONEY. 139 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:11,300 THEY DON'T ALWAYS 140 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:12,433 HAVE THIS TYPE OF 141 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:12,800 MONEY. 142 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,866 AFTER THIS BUDGET 143 00:03:13,866 --> 00:03:14,866 THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE 144 00:03:14,866 --> 00:03:16,966 IT NEXT TIME. 145 00:03:16,966 --> 00:03:17,966 >> THAT'S THE HIDDEN 146 00:03:17,966 --> 00:03:19,466 STORY IN THE BUDGET. 147 00:03:19,466 --> 00:03:20,833 I HOPE THEY ENJOYED 148 00:03:20,833 --> 00:03:21,766 THIS ONE. 149 00:03:21,766 --> 00:03:22,666 WHEN THEY COME BACK 150 00:03:22,666 --> 00:03:23,800 ALL OF THE FEDERAL 151 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,533 MONEY IS GONE. 152 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:27,200 THERE WILL BE CUTS. 153 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,866 >> YEAH, THIS SORT 154 00:03:27,866 --> 00:03:29,900 OF POLITICAL 155 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:31,333 CALCULUS WILL BE 156 00:03:31,333 --> 00:03:32,466 PROBLEMATIC 157 00:03:32,466 --> 00:03:32,800 FUNDAMENTALLY. 158 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,500 WHEN IT COMES TO 159 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:35,400 EVALUATING THE 160 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,200 PROJECTS IT WILL 161 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,433 TAKE TIME TO 162 00:03:37,433 --> 00:03:38,333 UNDERSTAND HOW DOES 163 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:40,233 THIS GET IN THE 164 00:03:40,233 --> 00:03:41,200 BUDGET? 165 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,966 WHO WAS BEHIND THEM? 166 00:03:42,966 --> 00:03:44,100 DO THEY HAVE A 167 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:45,133 COMMUNITY BENEFIT OR 168 00:03:45,133 --> 00:03:46,266 PRIVATE INTEREST. 169 00:03:46,266 --> 00:03:47,366 >> IT'S A GREAT 170 00:03:47,366 --> 00:03:47,633 POINT. 171 00:03:47,633 --> 00:03:48,666 THEY HAD THIS ONE 172 00:03:48,666 --> 00:03:50,133 TIME MONEY FROM THE 173 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:51,100 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 174 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,366 BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 175 00:03:52,366 --> 00:03:56,866 DID THEY MAKIN' MAKE 176 00:03:56,866 --> 00:03:57,500 INVESTMENTS THAT 177 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:58,300 WILL CHANGE MICHIGAN 178 00:03:58,300 --> 00:03:59,466 GOING FORWARD. 179 00:03:59,466 --> 00:04:00,666 THAT'S WHAT WE NEED 180 00:04:00,666 --> 00:04:01,466 TO WATCH. 181 00:04:01,466 --> 00:04:02,866 HEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE 182 00:04:02,866 --> 00:04:04,133 INVESTED FROM A 183 00:04:04,133 --> 00:04:05,333 MAJOR TRANSIT 184 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:05,600 PROJECT. 185 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,366 THEY DIDN'T DO THAT. 186 00:04:07,366 --> 00:04:08,300 THEY SPREAD THE 187 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:09,766 MONEY OUT ACROSS 188 00:04:09,766 --> 00:04:11,133 THESE SMALLER 189 00:04:11,133 --> 00:04:11,833 PROJECTS. 190 00:04:11,833 --> 00:04:12,866 >> MAJOR PROJECTS 191 00:04:12,866 --> 00:04:13,900 ARE LONG-TERM. 192 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,600 IF IT DOESN'T GET 193 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,066 DONE IN MY TERM I'M 194 00:04:17,066 --> 00:04:19,633 NOT REALLY FOR LONG 195 00:04:19,633 --> 00:04:20,233 PROJECTS. 196 00:04:20,233 --> 00:04:22,433 THE LADY THAT 197 00:04:22,433 --> 00:04:24,266 REPLACES ME WILL GET 198 00:04:24,266 --> 00:04:27,366 CREDIT LATER ON. 199 00:04:27,366 --> 00:04:30,000 >> ONE MAJOR THING 200 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,233 IS ONE TIME PROJECTS 201 00:04:31,233 --> 00:04:32,833 ARE NOT CONSIDERED 202 00:04:32,833 --> 00:04:34,233 ONE TIME PROJECTS. 203 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:35,800 IF THEY GET THE ONE 204 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,166 TIME FUNDING THEY 205 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:38,500 WILL FIGHT FOR MONEY 206 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:39,966 LATER ON AND THEY 207 00:04:39,966 --> 00:04:40,733 WILL TRY AGAIN. 208 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:42,466 THIS IS A GREAT 209 00:04:42,466 --> 00:04:42,833 POINT. 210 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,366 THIS WILL CONTINUE 211 00:04:44,366 --> 00:04:46,366 BEING CONTENTIOUS 212 00:04:46,366 --> 00:04:46,666 TOPIC. 213 00:04:46,666 --> 00:04:47,900 NEXT YEARS BUDGET 214 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:49,866 WILL BE WAY MORE 215 00:04:49,866 --> 00:04:50,300 CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE 216 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:51,066 THEY SPENT MOST OF 217 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:51,666 THE MONEY. 218 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:53,700 MOST OF THE SURPLUS 219 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:54,400 IS GONE. 220 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,100 IT WILL NEVER BE A 221 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:57,066 SITUATION LIKE THIS 222 00:04:57,066 --> 00:04:57,566 AGAIN. 223 00:04:57,566 --> 00:04:58,766 >> THE FORMER 224 00:04:58,766 --> 00:05:00,800 GOVERNOR HAD AN 225 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,100 INFAMOUS LINE. 226 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:04,400 HE CALLED THE 227 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,166 LEGISLATURE AS A 228 00:05:05,166 --> 00:05:10,233 BRUNCH OF DRUNKEN 229 00:05:10,233 --> 00:05:10,533 SAILOR. 230 00:05:10,533 --> 00:05:12,266 MIKE ROGERS DECIDED 231 00:05:12,266 --> 00:05:13,200 HE WON'T RUN FOR THE 232 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,333 WHITE HOUSE. 233 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:15,700 >> THIS IS ONE OF 234 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:17,300 THE MOST UNDERLINE 235 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:18,300 POLITICAL STORIES 236 00:05:18,300 --> 00:05:19,033 ABOUT WHAT THIS 237 00:05:19,033 --> 00:05:20,266 COULD SAY FOR THE 238 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:21,166 MICHIGAN REPUBLICAN 239 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:21,466 PARTY. 240 00:05:21,466 --> 00:05:23,766 MIKE ROGERS IS AN 241 00:05:23,766 --> 00:05:24,466 ESTABLISHMENT 242 00:05:24,466 --> 00:05:24,766 REPUBLICAN. 243 00:05:24,766 --> 00:05:25,766 HE'S VERY CLOSE TO 244 00:05:25,766 --> 00:05:26,766 THE NATIONAL 245 00:05:26,766 --> 00:05:27,866 SECURITY FORCES THAT 246 00:05:27,866 --> 00:05:28,900 THE FORMER PRESIDENT 247 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,333 HAS CLASHED WITH 248 00:05:31,333 --> 00:05:31,833 PREVIOUSLY. 249 00:05:31,833 --> 00:05:33,766 HERE HE IS, DIRECTLY 250 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:34,433 STEPPING HIMSELF 251 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:35,366 INTO THE SPOTLIGHT 252 00:05:35,366 --> 00:05:37,033 OF POSSIBLY RUNNING 253 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:38,533 FOR MICHIGAN SENATE 254 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:38,800 SEAT. 255 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,366 COULD HE DO IT? 256 00:05:40,366 --> 00:05:42,300 IS HE A VIABLE 257 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:42,566 CANDIDATE? 258 00:05:42,566 --> 00:05:44,033 I DON'T KNOW. 259 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:45,033 >> HE COULD BUT THE 260 00:05:45,033 --> 00:05:46,166 THING IS CAN YOU GET 261 00:05:46,166 --> 00:05:47,233 THE NOMINATION? 262 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:48,800 >> I DON'T KNOW. 263 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,700 I'M HEARING THERE 264 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:50,933 ARE A LOT OF WELL 265 00:05:50,933 --> 00:05:51,966 KNOWN OLD GAR 266 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:56,600 MICHIGAN REPUBLICANS REPUBLICANS 267 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,733 SURROUNDING MIKE 268 00:05:57,733 --> 00:05:58,166 ROBERTS. 269 00:05:58,166 --> 00:05:59,366 YOU HAVE PETER MEYER 270 00:05:59,366 --> 00:06:00,233 OUT THERE. 271 00:06:00,233 --> 00:06:01,366 A YOUNG 272 00:06:01,366 --> 00:06:01,900 UP-AND-COMING 273 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:02,966 REPUBLICAN THAT 274 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:03,900 WOULD LIKE TO RUN 275 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:04,966 FOR THE SEAT. 276 00:06:04,966 --> 00:06:06,333 IF MIKE ROGERS RUNS 277 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:07,633 CAN BOTH OF THEM RUN 278 00:06:07,633 --> 00:06:09,433 FOR THE SEAT. 279 00:06:09,433 --> 00:06:10,900 HOW DOES HIS BID 280 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:12,366 EFFECT JOHN TUTTLE 281 00:06:12,366 --> 00:06:13,500 THAT'S CONSIDERING 282 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,500 RUNNING FOR THE 283 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:14,966 SEAT. 284 00:06:14,966 --> 00:06:15,866 IT'S WILD. 285 00:06:15,866 --> 00:06:17,900 >> THEY WANT TUTTLE. 286 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:18,933 >> YES, THAT'S WHAT 287 00:06:18,933 --> 00:06:19,866 I'M TOLD. 288 00:06:19,866 --> 00:06:21,000 THE NATIONAL 289 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,433 REPUBLICANS WANT 290 00:06:21,433 --> 00:06:22,900 JOHN TUTTLE BECAUSE 291 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:24,466 HE CAN SELF FUND HIS 292 00:06:24,466 --> 00:06:27,233 BID WHEN MIKE ROGERS 293 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:27,633 CANNOT. 294 00:06:27,633 --> 00:06:28,433 THE REPUBLICANS HAVE 295 00:06:28,433 --> 00:06:29,566 GONE FROM NOT HAVING 296 00:06:29,566 --> 00:06:31,566 A CANDIDATE BUT A 297 00:06:31,566 --> 00:06:32,466 BUNCH OF PEOPLE 298 00:06:32,466 --> 00:06:33,633 LOOKING AROUND AT 299 00:06:33,633 --> 00:06:34,266 THIS. 300 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:34,866 >> WHY DID IT TAKE 301 00:06:34,866 --> 00:06:35,833 SO LONG? 302 00:06:35,833 --> 00:06:37,733 WE HAD A GOVERNORRAL 303 00:06:37,733 --> 00:06:38,533 ELECTION LAST YEAR 304 00:06:38,533 --> 00:06:40,433 AND A TON OF 305 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:41,300 REPUBLICANS JUMPING 306 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:42,866 IN THAT RACE. 307 00:06:42,866 --> 00:06:44,133 WHY HAS IT TAKEN 308 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:45,833 THIS LONG TO GET TO 309 00:06:45,833 --> 00:06:46,500 THE POINT WHERE 310 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:47,100 REPUBLICAN 311 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:47,900 CANDIDATES ARE 312 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:49,700 THINKING ABOUT THIS. 313 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:50,366 >> MR. ROGERS WAS ON 314 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:51,266 THE MISSION TO GET 315 00:06:51,266 --> 00:06:52,800 IN THE WHITE HOUSE. 316 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,233 HE HASN'T SAID NO 317 00:06:54,233 --> 00:06:54,533 YET. 318 00:06:54,533 --> 00:06:55,866 WHEN WE HAD HIM ON 319 00:06:55,866 --> 00:06:59,133 THE SHOW I HADN'T 320 00:06:59,133 --> 00:06:59,900 SAID NO. 321 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:01,633 FROM A LOGICAL 322 00:07:01,633 --> 00:07:02,533 STANDPOINT THE U.S. 323 00:07:02,533 --> 00:07:04,566 SENATE IS MORE 324 00:07:04,566 --> 00:07:05,466 DOABLE THAN BECOMING 325 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:06,166 PRESIDENT. 326 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:07,300 >> IT'S AN EASIER 327 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:07,800 JOB. 328 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,833 HE'S KNOWN IN 329 00:07:08,833 --> 00:07:09,100 MICHIGAN. 330 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:10,266 HE DOESN'T HAVE TO 331 00:07:10,266 --> 00:07:11,933 MAKE THAT CASE 332 00:07:11,933 --> 00:07:12,233 NATIONALLY. 333 00:07:12,233 --> 00:07:15,066 THERE IS A -- YEAH, 334 00:07:15,066 --> 00:07:17,433 THIS IS A VERY 335 00:07:17,433 --> 00:07:19,566 INTERESTING CLASH OF 336 00:07:19,566 --> 00:07:21,000 IDEOLOGY GOING ON 337 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:21,400 RIGHT NOW. 338 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,500 THIS IS A GREAT 339 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:23,766 POINT. 340 00:07:23,766 --> 00:07:25,000 THE FUNDING MUST BE 341 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,933 A FACTOR. 342 00:07:25,933 --> 00:07:26,900 THEY WON'T GET IT 343 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:28,200 FROM THE MICHIGAN 344 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,900 REPUBLICANS. 345 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:30,133 THE STATE PARTY 346 00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:31,800 HASN'T BEEN 347 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,533 FUNDRAISING ENOUGH 348 00:07:33,533 --> 00:07:35,500 TO CHALLENGE A LIST 349 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,566 AND LONG BEEN 350 00:07:39,566 --> 00:07:41,666 CONSIDERED. 351 00:07:41,666 --> 00:07:43,066 WHO CAN APPEAL TO A 352 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:44,500 BROAD SPECTRUM OF 353 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:45,000 REPUBLICANS. 354 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,233 >> HOW DOES THE MIKE 355 00:07:46,233 --> 00:07:47,900 ROGER APPEALS TO A 356 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:48,833 TRUMP VOTER IN 357 00:07:48,833 --> 00:07:49,833 MICHIGAN WHO IS 358 00:07:49,833 --> 00:07:50,866 RUNNING THIS PARTY 359 00:07:50,866 --> 00:07:51,666 NOW? 360 00:07:51,666 --> 00:07:52,200 >> THAT'S THE 361 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,133 QUESTION I'M SURE 362 00:07:53,133 --> 00:07:54,566 MIKE ROGERS DOESN'T 363 00:07:54,566 --> 00:07:55,733 WANT TO TALK ABOUT. 364 00:07:55,733 --> 00:07:57,133 IF YOU GO TO THE 365 00:07:57,133 --> 00:07:59,066 STATE COMMITTEE 366 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:01,300 HAPPENING IN WEEKEND 367 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:01,800 ON SATURDAY. 368 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,833 HOW MANY OF THOSE 369 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:05,600 PEOPLE KNOW WHO MIKE 370 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,400 ROGERS IS OR HAD AN 371 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,433 EXPERIENCE WITH HIM. 372 00:08:08,433 --> 00:08:09,966 THE PARTY HAS 373 00:08:09,966 --> 00:08:11,133 CHANGED SO 374 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:11,833 DRASTICALLY. 375 00:08:11,833 --> 00:08:13,100 THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE 376 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,766 TROUBLE FIELDING THE 377 00:08:14,766 --> 00:08:15,066 CANDIDATES. 378 00:08:15,066 --> 00:08:16,600 THEY ARE LOOKING AT 379 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,733 WHAT'S MY PATH TO 380 00:08:18,733 --> 00:08:19,800 THE NOMINATION. 381 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,066 IT'S THROUGH A DARK 382 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:23,566 WOODS AND NO ONE CAN 383 00:08:23,566 --> 00:08:24,966 FIGURE THE WAY-OUT. 384 00:08:24,966 --> 00:08:26,133 >> THE ULTIMATE 385 00:08:26,133 --> 00:08:26,666 CONFRONTATION 386 00:08:26,666 --> 00:08:27,533 BETWEEN THE 387 00:08:27,533 --> 00:08:28,333 ESTABLISHMENT WING 388 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:29,466 AND TRUMP WING AND 389 00:08:29,466 --> 00:08:31,900 DUKE IT OUT. 390 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:32,833 >> TRUMP'S WING WILL 391 00:08:32,833 --> 00:08:33,600 WIN THAT. 392 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,300 YOU SEE THAT IN THE 393 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:36,533 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY 394 00:08:36,533 --> 00:08:36,800 RACE. 395 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,266 YOU HAVE CANDIDATES 396 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:39,500 TRYING TO GET IN 397 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:40,033 THERE. 398 00:08:40,033 --> 00:08:41,133 TRUMP IS STILL 399 00:08:41,133 --> 00:08:42,800 POLLING WITH THE 400 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,133 CONTENDERLESS. 401 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:44,800 THE IDEA WAS YOU 402 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,300 HAVE MULTIPLE TRUMP 403 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:47,733 CANDIDATE AND ONE 404 00:08:47,733 --> 00:08:48,633 ANTI-TRUMP CANDIDATE 405 00:08:48,633 --> 00:08:49,666 AND MAYBE THERE IS A 406 00:08:49,666 --> 00:08:51,266 PATH FOR THE 407 00:08:51,266 --> 00:08:53,766 ANTI-TRUMP 408 00:08:53,766 --> 00:08:54,066 CANDIDATE. 409 00:08:54,066 --> 00:08:55,600 NOW YOU HAVE 410 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,166 MULTIPLE ANTI-TRUMP 411 00:08:57,166 --> 00:08:58,200 CANDIDATES IN THE 412 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,700 RACE. 413 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,600 >> HE LOST HIS 414 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,000 GLAMOR INTO GETTING 415 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,533 CANDIDATES ELECTED. 416 00:09:04,533 --> 00:09:05,700 IS THAT NOT THE HOPE 417 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:06,733 THAT OTHERS MIGHT 418 00:09:06,733 --> 00:09:07,233 HAVE? 419 00:09:07,233 --> 00:09:08,800 >> I THINK YOU ARE 420 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,133 RIGHT. 421 00:09:09,133 --> 00:09:09,866 MICHIGAN REPUBLICANS 422 00:09:09,866 --> 00:09:10,866 CAN LOOK BACK ONE 423 00:09:10,866 --> 00:09:11,866 YEAR AND SEE WHAT 424 00:09:11,866 --> 00:09:13,100 THE TRUMP 425 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:13,700 ENDORSEMENTS MEANT 426 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:14,866 IN THE GENERAL 427 00:09:14,866 --> 00:09:15,700 ELECTION RACE. 428 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:16,800 YOU ARE RIGHT ON 429 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,066 THAT. 430 00:09:17,066 --> 00:09:19,400 IF HE COMES OUT AND 431 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,633 ENDORSES A CANDIDATE 432 00:09:20,633 --> 00:09:22,100 IT'S A MAJOR POINT 433 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,766 IN A PRIMARY RACE. 434 00:09:23,766 --> 00:09:25,333 >> THE PRIMARY IS 435 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:26,666 SUPER KEY HERE. 436 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:27,733 CERTAINLY A 437 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:28,533 CANDIDATE THAT'S 438 00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:29,733 CLOSER TO TRUMP WILL 439 00:09:29,733 --> 00:09:32,300 HAVE MORE APPEAL IN 440 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,866 THE PRIMARY. 441 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:36,433 ONCE YOU GET TO THE 442 00:09:36,433 --> 00:09:37,600 GENERAL ELECTION 443 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,366 CYCLE THAT'S WHERE 444 00:09:39,366 --> 00:09:41,100 REPUBLICANS HAVE 445 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:41,733 STRUGGLED. 446 00:09:41,733 --> 00:09:43,300 THEY NEED TO APPEAL 447 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:45,566 TO INDEP INDEPENDENCE. 448 00:09:45,566 --> 00:09:46,600 CERTAINLY SHE'S THE 449 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,733 FRONT RUNNER RIGHT 450 00:09:47,733 --> 00:09:48,200 NOW. 451 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,433 SHE'S PROVEN HERSELF 452 00:09:49,433 --> 00:09:51,233 TO BE ABLE TO APPEAL 453 00:09:51,233 --> 00:09:52,466 TO THE INDEPENDENT 454 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:52,700 VOTERS. 455 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:54,033 I DON'T KNOW, 456 00:09:54,033 --> 00:09:55,900 SOMEONE COMING FROM 457 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:57,933 THE MORE HARD LINE 458 00:09:57,933 --> 00:09:58,900 CONSERVATIVE STANCE 459 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:00,033 PLAYED WELL. 460 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:01,400 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT 461 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,666 THIS FOR JUST A 462 00:10:02,666 --> 00:10:03,166 SECOND. 463 00:10:03,166 --> 00:10:03,866 ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO 464 00:10:03,866 --> 00:10:05,533 DON'T WANT A GUY 465 00:10:05,533 --> 00:10:06,533 NAME HILL HARPER TO 466 00:10:06,533 --> 00:10:08,233 GET IN THE RACE? 467 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:09,500 >> I THINK SO. 468 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:10,666 THEY WOULD LIKE TO 469 00:10:10,666 --> 00:10:11,933 SMOOTH THE PATH AS 470 00:10:11,933 --> 00:10:15,233 MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 471 00:10:15,233 --> 00:10:16,633 ALL SIGNS HE'S 472 00:10:16,633 --> 00:10:20,800 GETTING IN THE RACE. 473 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,266 PEOPLE ARE 474 00:10:22,266 --> 00:10:22,866 UNDERESTIMATING HOW 475 00:10:22,866 --> 00:10:23,400 CLOSE AND 476 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,433 COMPETITIVE A RACE 477 00:10:24,433 --> 00:10:25,466 THIS COULD BE. 478 00:10:25,466 --> 00:10:27,166 SOMEONE PULLED THIS 479 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:28,600 VIDEO UP IN A FEW 480 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,300 MONTHS I COULD BE 481 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:31,766 INCREDIBLY WRONG. 482 00:10:31,766 --> 00:10:33,000 >> WE KEEP THE 483 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:33,933 TAPES. 484 00:10:33,933 --> 00:10:37,566 >> IT SEEMS TO BE 485 00:10:37,566 --> 00:10:39,033 SOME INDIGESTION 486 00:10:39,033 --> 00:10:40,166 THAT THE 487 00:10:40,166 --> 00:10:40,866 ESTABLISHMENT IS 488 00:10:40,866 --> 00:10:41,900 PICKING CANDIDATES 489 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:43,033 AND SAYING THIS IS 490 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:44,000 THE PERSON THAT'S 491 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,966 THE NOMINEE. 492 00:10:44,966 --> 00:10:45,966 THIS IS WHY THERE 493 00:10:45,966 --> 00:10:47,333 ARE PRIMARY 494 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:48,566 ELECTIONS FOR VOTERS 495 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:49,500 TO DECIDE. 496 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:50,633 THERE ARE MANY 497 00:10:50,633 --> 00:10:51,333 VOTERS THAT WOULD 498 00:10:51,333 --> 00:10:53,033 LIKE TO SEE DETROIT 499 00:10:53,033 --> 00:10:53,733 CANDIDATES GET A 500 00:10:53,733 --> 00:10:55,100 CHANCE AT THE MAJOR 501 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:56,033 RACES AND RUN. 502 00:10:56,033 --> 00:10:59,333 I BELIEVE THERE IS 503 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:01,433 SOME HOPE FOR HIM. 504 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:02,433 >> THE GOVERNOR IS 505 00:11:02,433 --> 00:11:04,200 GETTING A TON OF 506 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,066 NATIONAL ATTENTION. 507 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:06,633 IT'S A GREAT STORY. 508 00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:08,066 >> I THINK SO. 509 00:11:08,066 --> 00:11:09,433 MICHIGAN STRUGGLED 510 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:10,900 DEALING WITH 511 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:11,700 POPULATION 512 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:13,166 STAGNATION. 513 00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:14,000 WE HAVE SEEN 514 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,133 POPULATION LOSS IN 515 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:16,233 THE STATE THAT'S NOT 516 00:11:16,233 --> 00:11:17,166 A GOOD SIGN. 517 00:11:17,166 --> 00:11:18,200 HER SOLUTION IS 518 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,200 CREATING A 519 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,366 COMMISSION AND IT'S 520 00:11:21,366 --> 00:11:23,433 SKEWS OLDER. 521 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:24,900 SHE STILL HASN'T 522 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:27,766 PICKED THE UNDER 25 523 00:11:27,766 --> 00:11:28,466 PERSON THAT WILL 524 00:11:28,466 --> 00:11:29,666 SERVE ON THE 525 00:11:29,666 --> 00:11:30,633 COMEMATION. 526 00:11:30,633 --> 00:11:31,533 THEY ARE GETTING A 527 00:11:31,533 --> 00:11:35,166 LOT OF FLAK. 528 00:11:35,166 --> 00:11:36,333 >> HOW DID THEY GET 529 00:11:36,333 --> 00:11:37,533 THIS SO WRONG? 530 00:11:37,533 --> 00:11:40,333 >> YOU KNOW, I THINK 531 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:41,033 -- 532 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:42,400 >> IT'S AN ERROR. 533 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,933 >> PROBABLY THE 534 00:11:42,933 --> 00:11:44,266 PEOPLE LINING UP TO 535 00:11:44,266 --> 00:11:45,300 DO IT WERE THE 536 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:46,366 PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWN 537 00:11:46,366 --> 00:11:47,933 IN POLITICS AND HAVE 538 00:11:47,933 --> 00:11:49,400 DECADES OF 539 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:49,900 EXPERIENCE. 540 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:50,900 MAYBE IN THIS 541 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:51,833 INSTANCE IT'S NOT 542 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:53,366 THE DECADES OF 543 00:11:53,366 --> 00:11:54,066 EXPERIENCE THAT 544 00:11:54,066 --> 00:11:55,500 MATTER BUT THE 545 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:56,433 PEOPLE WHO ARE 546 00:11:56,433 --> 00:11:57,033 THINKING ABOUT 547 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:58,066 LEAVING OR LOOKING 548 00:11:58,066 --> 00:12:01,700 FOR JOBS OR TRYING 549 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:02,933 TO MAKE IT WORK. 550 00:12:02,933 --> 00:12:04,000 THERE NEEDS TO BE 551 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,300 MORE SEARCHING GOING 552 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:07,900 ON. 553 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:08,833 MORE SOUL-SEARCHING 554 00:12:08,833 --> 00:12:10,066 TO FIGURE OUT WHO 555 00:12:10,066 --> 00:12:11,266 MIGHT BE BEST TO 556 00:12:11,266 --> 00:12:12,500 BEST ANSWER THIS 557 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:13,333 QUESTION. 558 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,033 >> GETTING IT WRONG 559 00:12:14,033 --> 00:12:15,266 IS OPENING YOURSELF 560 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:16,533 UP TO CRITICISM. 561 00:12:16,533 --> 00:12:18,100 YOU TRY TO PROTECT 562 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:19,133 THAT FROM HAPPENING 563 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,033 AND THEY FAILED ON 564 00:12:21,033 --> 00:12:21,833 THIS FRONT. 565 00:12:21,833 --> 00:12:22,633 >> THEY PUT 566 00:12:22,633 --> 00:12:23,900 REPUBLICANS ON THE 567 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:24,133 PANEL. 568 00:12:24,133 --> 00:12:26,600 THEY ARE TRYING TO 569 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,500 APPEASE THE 570 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:28,100 REPUBLICANS. 571 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:29,433 DEMOCRATS ARE MAD 572 00:12:29,433 --> 00:12:30,566 BECAUSE YOU PUT THE 573 00:12:30,566 --> 00:12:31,933 OLDER PEOPLE ON THE 574 00:12:31,933 --> 00:12:32,233 PANEL. 575 00:12:32,233 --> 00:12:33,666 THE GUYS FROM THE 576 00:12:33,666 --> 00:12:34,800 U.P. ARE MAD BECAUSE 577 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,233 NO ONE IS ON THERE 578 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,066 YET. 579 00:12:37,066 --> 00:12:37,766 >> WE HAVE THIS 580 00:12:37,766 --> 00:12:38,900 PROBLEM THAT'S 581 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:39,566 PERSISTING IN 582 00:12:39,566 --> 00:12:39,866 MICHIGAN. 583 00:12:39,866 --> 00:12:40,966 HERE WE HAVE A PANEL 584 00:12:40,966 --> 00:12:42,566 OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE 585 00:12:42,566 --> 00:12:43,966 WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE 586 00:12:43,966 --> 00:12:45,100 ROOM TO SOLVE THESE 587 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:46,333 PROBLEMS FOR MANY 588 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:46,866 YEARS. 589 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:47,866 HERE, WE'LL GIVE 590 00:12:47,866 --> 00:12:48,533 THEM ANOTHER CHANCE 591 00:12:48,533 --> 00:12:50,033 TO KNOCK AROUND THE 592 00:12:50,033 --> 00:12:51,366 BALL AND FIGURE THIS 593 00:12:51,366 --> 00:12:51,666 OUT. 594 00:12:51,666 --> 00:12:52,866 THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE 595 00:12:52,866 --> 00:12:55,000 ON THE PANEL WHOSE 596 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,333 NAMES I RECOGNIZED I 597 00:12:57,333 --> 00:12:59,200 WAS SURPRISED BY IT. 598 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,600 >> SHE HAS 16 SPOTS 599 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,666 TO FILL. 600 00:13:03,666 --> 00:13:05,200 SHE WILL BACKFILL 601 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,433 THEM BUT WHY NOT DO 602 00:13:06,433 --> 00:13:07,866 THIS FROM THE 603 00:13:07,866 --> 00:13:08,133 BEGINNING. 604 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:09,166 TALK TO THOSE WHO 605 00:13:09,166 --> 00:13:10,200 LEFT THE STATE. 606 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,466 GET THEM ON THE 607 00:13:11,466 --> 00:13:11,933 PANEL. 608 00:13:11,933 --> 00:13:13,500 THIS IS WHY CHICAGO 609 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:14,966 HAS MORE POP THAN 610 00:13:14,966 --> 00:13:17,000 YOU NAME THIS PLACE. 611 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 >> GET PEOPLE WHO 612 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,766 AREN'T FROM MICHIGAN 613 00:13:18,766 --> 00:13:19,900 WHO MOVED HERE TO 614 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,400 SERVE ON THE PANEL. 615 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,300 I WONDER HOW MANY OF 616 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:24,500 THESE FOLKS GREW UP 617 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:25,633 AND STAYED IN 618 00:13:25,633 --> 00:13:26,633 MICHIGAN. 619 00:13:26,633 --> 00:13:28,133 THE IDEA IS WE WANT 620 00:13:28,133 --> 00:13:29,633 TO BRING PEOPLE FROM 621 00:13:29,633 --> 00:13:31,333 OUT OF THE STATE TO 622 00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:33,800 COME HERE. 623 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,066 >> IT'S A WAY TO 624 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:36,300 SPEND MORE MONEY. 625 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,233 >> WHY AREN'T THERE 626 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:38,200 MORE YOUNGER PEOPLE 627 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,366 ON THE PANEL? 628 00:13:40,366 --> 00:13:41,400 THAT'S WHO WE HAVE 629 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,266 TO ATTRACT. 630 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:46,400 WHERE ARE THEY? 631 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,166 ALL OVER THE PLACE 632 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:48,866 OUR YOUNG PEOPLE 633 00:13:48,866 --> 00:13:51,400 MAKING A NAME FOR 634 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:51,733 THEMSELVES. 635 00:13:51,733 --> 00:13:54,000 WHY AREN'T THEY ON 636 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,800 THIS. 637 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,733 >> LET'S TURN THE 638 00:13:55,733 --> 00:13:56,766 PAGE AND WELCOME TO 639 00:13:56,766 --> 00:13:57,866 THE SHOW PHIL GREEN 640 00:13:57,866 --> 00:13:59,433 WHO IS ONE OF THE 641 00:13:59,433 --> 00:14:00,166 RANKING REPUBLICANS 642 00:14:00,166 --> 00:14:01,533 ON HOUSE 643 00:14:01,533 --> 00:14:01,900 APPROPRIATIONS. 644 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:02,933 HOW MANY SCHOOLS ARE 645 00:14:02,933 --> 00:14:04,433 IN YOUR DISTRICT? 646 00:14:04,433 --> 00:14:06,200 >> RIGHT NOW, MY NEW 647 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,233 DISTRICT, I HAVE A 648 00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:09,333 TOTAL OF TWO HIGH 649 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:10,066 SCHOOLS. 650 00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:10,466 >> THE 651 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:11,033 SUPERINTENDENTS 652 00:14:11,033 --> 00:14:11,933 MIGHT CALL YOU AND 653 00:14:11,933 --> 00:14:13,600 SAY HOW COME YOU 654 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,033 DIDN'T VOTE FOR 655 00:14:16,033 --> 00:14:18,266 $9,700 FOR MY 656 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,333 PUPILS, SIR? 657 00:14:19,333 --> 00:14:20,633 >> THAT'S A GREAT 658 00:14:20,633 --> 00:14:20,900 QUESTION. 659 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:22,433 AS WE LOOK AT 660 00:14:22,433 --> 00:14:23,366 BUDGETS WE CAN LOOK 661 00:14:23,366 --> 00:14:24,700 AT THE PROCESS, WE 662 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:26,066 CAN LOOK AT THE 663 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:28,100 PORK, OR THE 664 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:28,400 POLICIES. 665 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,066 AS WE LOOK AT THE 666 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:33,300 EDUCATION BUDGET ONE 667 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:35,066 INDIVIDUAL DID A TON 668 00:14:35,066 --> 00:14:36,500 OF RESEARCH AND 669 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,766 FOUND, WHEN HE 670 00:14:37,766 --> 00:14:39,333 STOPPED, OVER $120 671 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:40,333 MILLION IN PORK 672 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:41,900 PROJECTS IN THE 673 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:43,266 EDUCATION BUDGET FOR 674 00:14:43,266 --> 00:14:45,133 THINGS SUCH AS POOLS 675 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:47,966 IN SCHOOLS. 676 00:14:47,966 --> 00:14:49,500 SO, THAT $120 677 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:50,166 MILLION COULD 678 00:14:50,166 --> 00:14:51,200 PROBABLY BE BROKEN 679 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,766 DOWN TO $500 PER 680 00:14:53,766 --> 00:14:54,800 STUDENT IN THE 681 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,500 FOUNDATION 682 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,000 ALLOWANCE. 683 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,133 OKAY, WHAT'S GOING 684 00:14:59,133 --> 00:14:59,800 ON? 685 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,633 WHY ARE WE WASTING 686 00:15:01,633 --> 00:15:02,566 OUR EDUCATION 687 00:15:02,566 --> 00:15:04,100 DOLLARS ON POOLS OR 688 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:05,366 OTHER PET PROJECTS 689 00:15:05,366 --> 00:15:06,733 THAT SHOULD BE GOING 690 00:15:06,733 --> 00:15:09,966 TO OUR RURAL 691 00:15:09,966 --> 00:15:10,233 SCHOOLS? 692 00:15:10,233 --> 00:15:12,166 WE HAVE A MAJOR 693 00:15:12,166 --> 00:15:13,133 PROBLEM IN RURAL 694 00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:13,566 MICHIGAN. 695 00:15:13,566 --> 00:15:14,766 WE ARE WATCHING DOWN 696 00:15:14,766 --> 00:15:16,100 STATE AND WE ARE 697 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:17,666 WATCHING THESE OTHER 698 00:15:17,666 --> 00:15:19,133 AREAS CONSISTENCY 699 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:20,666 PLAY GAMES WITH OUR 700 00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:21,933 EDUCATION DOLLARS 701 00:15:21,933 --> 00:15:22,966 THAT'S NOT GETTING 702 00:15:22,966 --> 00:15:24,966 TO OUR RURAL AREAS. 703 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:27,400 >> YOU WOULD HAVE 704 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,000 GOTTEN $9,700 FOR 705 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,700 EVERY PEW PAL. 706 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:32,466 >> WE DID GET $9,300 707 00:15:32,466 --> 00:15:34,066 FOR EVERY PUPIL. 708 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:35,633 >> NO THANKS TO YOU, 709 00:15:35,633 --> 00:15:37,000 YOU VOTED NO. 710 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,100 YOU ARE TAKING 711 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:40,333 CREDIT FOR IT. 712 00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:41,600 >> THE LEGISLATURE 713 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,300 PASSED IT. 714 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:43,866 MY REASON FOR VOTING 715 00:15:43,866 --> 00:15:45,900 NO WAS SIMPLY WE 716 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:47,500 LOOKED AT THE POLICY 717 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:48,533 ISSUES AND THE PORK 718 00:15:48,533 --> 00:15:49,766 THAT WAS IN THERE 719 00:15:49,766 --> 00:15:50,900 AND SAID, HOW COME 720 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,133 WE CAN'T LEAVE THE 721 00:15:52,133 --> 00:15:52,733 EDUCATION DOLLARS 722 00:15:52,733 --> 00:15:54,833 FOR EDUCATION. 723 00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:55,200 >> LAUREN. 724 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,000 >> HOW WOULD YOU 725 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,366 HAVE DONE THE BUDGET 726 00:15:57,366 --> 00:16:00,466 PROCESS DIFFERENTLY, 727 00:16:00,466 --> 00:16:00,933 REPRESENTATIVE? 728 00:16:00,933 --> 00:16:02,400 >> WHEN WE LOOK AT 729 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,533 PROCESS, THIS IS MY 730 00:16:04,533 --> 00:16:10,733 FIFTHFIFTH BUD GIT BUDGET WORKIG 731 00:16:10,733 --> 00:16:11,466 ON IT. 732 00:16:11,466 --> 00:16:14,000 TWO WERE DOMINATED 733 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,233 BY COVID-19. 734 00:16:15,233 --> 00:16:16,700 IT WAS VERY SKEWED 735 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,400 FOR ME. 736 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,533 ONE THING THAT WAS 737 00:16:19,533 --> 00:16:21,066 FLUSTERING WAS HOW 738 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:21,866 DIFFERENT THE FINAL 739 00:16:21,866 --> 00:16:22,933 BUDGET LOOKED FROM 740 00:16:22,933 --> 00:16:24,600 THE FIRST THREE 741 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:24,866 BUDGET. 742 00:16:24,866 --> 00:16:32,700 FROM THE EXSEC REC. 743 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:33,800 WE WERE GIVEN TWO 744 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,333 HOURS TO REVIEW THE 745 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:43,566 WHOLE M MONSTER OF A 746 00:16:43,566 --> 00:16:46,466 BUDGET. 747 00:16:46,466 --> 00:16:47,900 WE LOOKED AT THE 748 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:48,933 POLICY STUFF AND NOT 749 00:16:48,933 --> 00:16:49,766 ABLE TO HAVE ANY 750 00:16:49,766 --> 00:16:51,133 TYPE OF DISCUSSION 751 00:16:51,133 --> 00:16:52,266 ON POLICY. 752 00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:54,066 SO, WE LOOK AT WHAT 753 00:16:54,066 --> 00:16:56,500 THINGS COULD WE DO 754 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:56,766 DIFFERENT. 755 00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:58,000 I THINK HAVING A 756 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,700 MUCH MORE OPEN 757 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:00,233 PROCESS. 758 00:17:00,233 --> 00:17:02,233 REMEMBERING THAT THE 759 00:17:02,233 --> 00:17:03,033 DEMOCRATS WHEN IN 760 00:17:03,033 --> 00:17:04,266 CONTROL OF THE HOUSE 761 00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:06,533 BY LESS THAN 1,000 762 00:17:06,533 --> 00:17:07,400 VOTES. 763 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,866 YET, THEY ARE 764 00:17:08,866 --> 00:17:10,666 TREATING IT AS IF WE 765 00:17:10,666 --> 00:17:12,333 ARE A SUPER 766 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:12,833 MINORITY. 767 00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:14,266 SO, HAVING OPEN 768 00:17:14,266 --> 00:17:14,966 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT 769 00:17:14,966 --> 00:17:16,500 WHAT'S GOING ON AND 770 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:17,166 MAKING IT SO THERE 771 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:18,566 IS A BACK AND FORTH 772 00:17:18,566 --> 00:17:20,366 AS TO PRIORITIES. 773 00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:21,866 AS WELL, THE POLICY 774 00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:23,100 IN THE BUDGET. 775 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:24,666 WE JUST FOUND OUT, I 776 00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:26,033 BELIEVE IN THE FREE 777 00:17:26,033 --> 00:17:27,900 PRESS OR DETROIT 778 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:29,466 NEWS, ONE OF THE TWO 779 00:17:29,466 --> 00:17:30,200 I READ. 780 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,666 WE HAD A BUNCH OF 781 00:17:31,666 --> 00:17:35,333 MONEY SET ASIDE FOR 782 00:17:35,333 --> 00:17:37,900 AMBULANCE SERVICES. 783 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,166 YET, BECAUSE, NO ONE 784 00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:40,433 WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT 785 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,500 THE BUDGET AND SEE 786 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:43,466 IT OR MAKE AN 787 00:17:43,466 --> 00:17:44,566 AMENDMENT, TWO WORDS 788 00:17:44,566 --> 00:17:45,433 WERE LEFT OUT. 789 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:48,300 BECAUSE OF THAT, 790 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:49,366 THOSE AMBULANCE 791 00:17:49,366 --> 00:17:50,066 SERVICES WON'T GET 792 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:51,533 BADE WHAT WE DESIRED 793 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:51,933 FOR THEM. 794 00:17:51,933 --> 00:17:53,266 THERE HAS TO BE A 795 00:17:53,266 --> 00:17:54,866 WAY TO HAVE POLICY 796 00:17:54,866 --> 00:17:55,633 DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE 797 00:17:55,633 --> 00:17:57,166 SURE THAT THE 798 00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:58,600 WORDING IS CORRECT 799 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,566 BEFORE WE ACTUALLY 800 00:18:00,566 --> 00:18:03,966 ARE HANDED 1,060 801 00:18:03,966 --> 00:18:05,700 PAGEBUDGET TWO 802 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:07,766 HOHOURS BEFORE WE VOTE 803 00:18:07,766 --> 00:18:08,700 ON IT. 804 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:09,400 >> YOU SPOKE ABOUT 805 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,533 THE CONTROL OF THE 806 00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:11,200 HOUSE AND 807 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,700 REPUBLICANS TREATED 808 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,266 LIKE A SUPER 809 00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:13,766 MINORITY. 810 00:18:13,766 --> 00:18:15,200 AS YOU LOOK TO 2024 811 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,666 DO REPUBLICANS NEED 812 00:18:16,666 --> 00:18:17,466 A FUNCTIONAL 813 00:18:17,466 --> 00:18:18,733 MICHIGAN GOP TO FLIP 814 00:18:18,733 --> 00:18:20,500 THE HOUSE? 815 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:21,500 >> WELL, ANY 816 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:22,200 ADVANTAGE WE COULD 817 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,700 GET WOULD BE GREAT. 818 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,366 SO, OBVIOUSLY, WE 819 00:18:25,366 --> 00:18:26,266 WANTED AS MUCH 820 00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:27,400 POSITIVE MOMENTUM 821 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,633 MOVING IN THE RIGHT 822 00:18:28,633 --> 00:18:29,000 DIRECTION. 823 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,033 HAVING A FUNCTIONAL 824 00:18:31,033 --> 00:18:33,366 GOP WOULD BE A VERY 825 00:18:33,366 --> 00:18:34,633 POSITIVE THING. 826 00:18:34,633 --> 00:18:36,100 SO, WE ARE LOOKING 827 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:37,900 FORWARD TO WORKING 828 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:42,633 WITH OUR GOP AND IN ON 829 00:18:42,633 --> 00:18:43,666 THE STATE LEVEL TO 830 00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:44,866 MAKE SURE WE ROLL IN 831 00:18:44,866 --> 00:18:46,200 THE SAME DIRECTION. 832 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,666 >> WHAT'S THE 833 00:18:47,666 --> 00:18:48,733 WINNING MESSAGE TO 834 00:18:48,733 --> 00:18:49,700 HOUSE REPUBLICANS AS 835 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:50,833 THEY LOOK TO TAKE 836 00:18:50,833 --> 00:18:52,066 CONTROL OF THE 837 00:18:52,066 --> 00:18:53,033 CHAMBER NEXT YEAR. 838 00:18:53,033 --> 00:18:54,966 WHAT ARE THE ISSUES 839 00:18:54,966 --> 00:18:56,000 THAT YOU THINK 840 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,666 CANDIDATES WILL RUN 841 00:18:56,666 --> 00:18:57,166 ON? 842 00:18:57,166 --> 00:18:59,066 >> I THINK, WE'LL BE 843 00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:00,066 RUNNING ON LOOK AT 844 00:19:00,066 --> 00:19:00,966 THE STUFF THAT'S 845 00:19:00,966 --> 00:19:01,666 BEEN DONE. 846 00:19:01,666 --> 00:19:04,566 LOOK AT THE RADICAL 847 00:19:04,566 --> 00:19:06,133 AGENDA THAT HAS BEEN 848 00:19:06,133 --> 00:19:06,566 PUSHED. 849 00:19:06,566 --> 00:19:07,666 THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS 850 00:19:07,666 --> 00:19:10,666 WHEN WE GIVE 100% 851 00:19:10,666 --> 00:19:11,700 UNFETTERED POWER TO 852 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:12,733 ONE PARTY. 853 00:19:12,733 --> 00:19:14,000 LOOKING AT THE 854 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,433 BUDGET. 855 00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:15,300 LOOK AT WHAT HAS 856 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:16,466 HAPPENED IN THE 857 00:19:16,466 --> 00:19:17,366 EAGLE BUDGET WHERE 858 00:19:17,366 --> 00:19:19,266 IT WAS ALMOST 859 00:19:19,266 --> 00:19:19,500 DOUBLED. 860 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:24,033 WE PUT -- ACROSS THE 861 00:19:24,033 --> 00:19:26,066 BUDGET 649 NEW 862 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:26,333 EMPLOYEES. 863 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:28,333 IT WAS A SPENDING 864 00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:28,600 SPREE. 865 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,066 ONE REPRESENTATIVE 866 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:31,100 CALLED IT CHRISTMAS 867 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,133 IN JULY. 868 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:33,033 AT SOME POINT WE 869 00:19:33,033 --> 00:19:34,966 WILL HAVE TO GO BACK 870 00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:36,966 IN LIKE IN 2010, 871 00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:38,100 2011 AND BE ADULTS 872 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,600 IN THE ROOM AND GET 873 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,366 THE BUDGET 874 00:19:42,366 --> 00:19:44,633 UNDER CONTROL. 875 00:19:44,633 --> 00:19:45,100 ANOTHER THING AGAIN 876 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,300 WITH THE EAGLE 877 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:48,333 BUDGET WHAT HAPPENS 878 00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:52,233 WITH THE C CARBON 879 00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:53,666 OFFSETS AND 880 00:19:53,666 --> 00:19:54,366 MONITORING AND HOW 881 00:19:54,366 --> 00:19:56,000 WILL THAT EFECT 882 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,366 EVERYDAY MICHIGANERS 883 00:19:59,366 --> 00:20:00,733 AND KEEP UTILITY 884 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:01,733 BILLS GOING THROUGH 885 00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:03,433 THE ROOF BECAUSE OF 886 00:20:03,433 --> 00:20:04,666 POLICIES ENACTED. 887 00:20:04,666 --> 00:20:06,833 >> DID REPUBLICANS 888 00:20:06,833 --> 00:20:08,133 GET IN ANY PORK IN 889 00:20:08,133 --> 00:20:10,066 THE BILL? 890 00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:12,433 >> UM, I'M NOT 100% 891 00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:13,800 SURE ABOUT THAT. 892 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,866 I'LL GUESS THERE IS 893 00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:16,766 PROBABLY SOME MONEY 894 00:20:16,766 --> 00:20:18,000 FOR DIFFERENT PARTS 895 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,266 OF THE REGION. 896 00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:21,266 I KNOW IT WAS 897 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:22,733 HEAVILY PORK LAIDEN 898 00:20:22,733 --> 00:20:24,633 SOUTH OF I-69. 899 00:20:24,633 --> 00:20:25,933 IF YOU DRAW THAT 900 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:30,066 LINE SOUTH OF I-69. 901 00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:30,866 DETROIT, MAYBE INTO 902 00:20:30,866 --> 00:20:33,966 SSAGINAW. 903 00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:35,433 IN THE RED AREAS 904 00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:36,466 THERE WAS VERY 905 00:20:36,466 --> 00:20:37,700 LITTLE DESIGNATED 906 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,133 DOLLARS. 907 00:20:39,133 --> 00:20:39,566 >> REPRESENTATIVE 908 00:20:39,566 --> 00:20:41,500 LIGHTENER SAID SHE 909 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,700 WAS TREATED WELL BY 910 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:43,933 THE DEMOCRATIC CHAIR 911 00:20:43,933 --> 00:20:45,333 OF HOUSE 912 00:20:45,333 --> 00:20:46,333 APPROPRIATION 913 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:46,600 COMMITTEE. 914 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,266 SHE DIDN'T GET 915 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:48,300 EVERYTHING FOR YOUR 916 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:48,966 CAUCUS BUT GOT 917 00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:49,766 ENOUGH TO SAY THIS 918 00:20:49,766 --> 00:20:51,900 WAS A GOOD DEAL. 919 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,233 OBVIOUSLY, YOU 920 00:20:53,233 --> 00:20:53,966 DISAGREE. 921 00:20:53,966 --> 00:20:55,166 >> WELL, I 922 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:55,966 APPRECIATE THE 923 00:20:55,966 --> 00:20:58,500 RELATIONSHIP I HAVE 924 00:20:58,500 --> 00:20:59,733 WITH CHAIR MORRIS ON 925 00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:01,800 THE DHHS BUDGET. 926 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,633 WE DID A GREAT JOB 927 00:21:03,633 --> 00:21:05,100 WORKING AT THE 928 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:05,566 BEGINNING. 929 00:21:05,566 --> 00:21:06,400 ONCE IT CAME DOWN TO 930 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,066 THE NUTS AND BOLTS I 931 00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:16,600 WAS WAS MOVED OFF TO A 932 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,233 DIFFERENT ROOM. 933 00:21:17,233 --> 00:21:18,800 I WAS PUSHED OUT OF 934 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,933 THE ROOM ONCE WE 935 00:21:19,933 --> 00:21:21,733 STARTED TO TALK THE 936 00:21:21,733 --> 00:21:22,400 BUDGET. 937 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,533 CHAIR LIGHTENERS 938 00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:25,900 TAKE, GREAT, I'M 939 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:27,133 GLAD SHE HAD A GREAT 940 00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:29,333 OPEN RELATIONSHIP 941 00:21:29,333 --> 00:21:30,300 WITH THE CHAIR. 942 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,600 IZE APPRECIATE THE 943 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,166 WORK THAT 944 00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:35,166 REPRESENTATIVE 945 00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:36,533 LIGHTENER GOT TO GET 946 00:21:36,533 --> 00:21:38,033 THE POLICY WHERE IT 947 00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:39,166 WAS CLOSER TO THE 948 00:21:39,166 --> 00:21:41,666 REPUBLICAN 949 00:21:41,666 --> 00:21:43,166 PRIORITIES. 950 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:49,033 MISIMY ISSUES WAS WITH 951 00:21:49,033 --> 00:21:50,133 THE POLICY STUFF 952 00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:52,033 THAT WAS ADDED 953 00:21:52,033 --> 00:21:52,333 AFTERWARDS. 954 00:21:52,333 --> 00:21:53,900 WE GOT THE FINAL 955 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,100 BUDGET AND WE ARE 956 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,566 NOT SEEN PREVIOUSLY 957 00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:57,733 IS NOW PUSHED DOWN 958 00:21:57,733 --> 00:22:03,866 OUR THROATS. 959 00:22:03,866 --> 00:22:04,833 >> HOW IS THAT 960 00:22:04,833 --> 00:22:06,400 DIFFERENT THAN THE 961 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,100 BUDGET WHEN YOU 962 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:08,933 CONTROLLED THE 963 00:22:08,933 --> 00:22:09,200 HOUSE. 964 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,233 THEY ADDED HUNDREDS 965 00:22:10,233 --> 00:22:11,400 OF BILLIONS OF PORK 966 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,300 DOLLARS IN THE 967 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:13,800 MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. 968 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,033 HOW DO HOUSE 969 00:22:15,033 --> 00:22:16,066 REPUBLICANS HAVE ANY 970 00:22:16,066 --> 00:22:16,866 HIGHER GROUND TO 971 00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:17,533 QUESTION THE BUDGET 972 00:22:17,533 --> 00:22:19,800 ON THIS? 973 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,033 >> THAT'S A GREAT 974 00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:21,300 QUESTION. 975 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:23,166 I THINK IT GOES BACK 976 00:22:23,166 --> 00:22:24,400 TO YOUR PREVIOUS 977 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,433 DISCUSSION AT THE 978 00:22:25,433 --> 00:22:27,066 VERY BEGINNING. 979 00:22:27,066 --> 00:22:27,966 HOW BROKE IS THE 980 00:22:27,966 --> 00:22:28,700 SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE 981 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:30,033 TO BUY PEOPLE'S 982 00:22:30,033 --> 00:22:31,433 VOTES TO GET IT. 983 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:32,533 WE CAN'T DEAL WITH 984 00:22:32,533 --> 00:22:33,433 POLICY AND GET 985 00:22:33,433 --> 00:22:34,333 POLICY RIGHT ANY 986 00:22:34,333 --> 00:22:34,733 MORE. 987 00:22:34,733 --> 00:22:35,800 WE HAVE TO DEAL 988 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,800 WITH, WHAT DO YOU 989 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,766 NEED FOR YOUR 990 00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:39,000 DISTRICT SO I GET 991 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,800 YOU TO VOTE FOR IT. 992 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,500 I THINK OUR WAY OF 993 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:44,666 DOING BUSINESS AND 994 00:22:44,666 --> 00:22:46,000 I'LL SAY ONE 995 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,733 THINGSs THING. 996 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:48,200 THE WAYOVER DOING 997 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,966 BUSINESS SINCE TERM 998 00:22:49,966 --> 00:22:55,733 LIMITS CAME IN. 999 00:22:55,733 --> 00:22:56,966 LET'S THROW MONEY AT 1000 00:22:56,966 --> 00:22:59,766 THEM IS A BROKEN 1001 00:22:59,766 --> 00:23:00,100 SYSTEM. 1002 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:01,233 >> HOW DEEP IS THE 1003 00:23:01,233 --> 00:23:01,800 DIVISION WITHIN THE 1004 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,933 HOUSE OF REPUBLICAN 1005 00:23:03,933 --> 00:23:05,433 CAUCUS AND THE 1006 00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:06,233 RELATIONSHIP WITH 1007 00:23:06,233 --> 00:23:06,600 MR. HALL? 1008 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,400 >> I DON'T THINK -- 1009 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,100 WHEN YOU ASK THE 1010 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,666 PHRASE DEEP, I DON'T 1011 00:23:11,666 --> 00:23:14,633 -- I SEE THE 5, 6, 1012 00:23:14,633 --> 00:23:15,800 7, 8 PEOPLE OPPOSED 1013 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,166 AT THE BEGINNING AND 1014 00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:18,433 STILL OPPOSED. 1015 00:23:18,433 --> 00:23:19,766 IT HASN'T CHANGED 1016 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:20,400 MUCH. 1017 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:30,600 >> THERE IS NOTICE NOTICE 1018 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,633 -- NOT DISRUPTION 1019 00:23:32,633 --> 00:23:34,066 WITHIN THE CAUCUS. 1020 00:23:34,066 --> 00:23:35,533 >> WE CAN DO OUR 1021 00:23:35,533 --> 00:23:35,800 JOBS. 1022 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,066 THERE ARE 1023 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:37,500 INDIVIDUALS THAT 1024 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:39,066 WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 1025 00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:41,066 MORE TOP DOWN HEAVY 1026 00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:44,366 APPROACH THAN WHAT 1027 00:23:44,366 --> 00:23:44,966 REPRESENTATIVE HALL 1028 00:23:44,966 --> 00:23:46,400 HAS DONE. 1029 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,666 HE HAS DONE A GREAT 1030 00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:50,933 JOB BALANCING OUR 1031 00:23:50,933 --> 00:23:53,366 JOB OF ALLOWING US 1032 00:23:53,366 --> 00:23:54,833 TO BE 1033 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:55,200 REPRESENTATIVES. 1034 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,800 >> CAN YOU ELABORATE 1035 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,466 ON WHAT MORE SOME 1036 00:23:58,466 --> 00:23:59,500 REPRESENTATIVES ARE 1037 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:00,600 HOPING 1038 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,033 REPRESENTATIVE HALL 1039 00:24:01,033 --> 00:24:01,700 WOULD DO? 1040 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,700 >> I THINK THERE ARE 1041 00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:04,133 INDIVIDUALS THAT 1042 00:24:04,133 --> 00:24:05,633 WOULD LIKE HIM TO BE 1043 00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:08,500 HEAVY HANDED AND 1044 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,300 TAKE CAUCUS 1045 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:11,233 POSITIONS REQUIRING 1046 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:12,333 THEM TO VOTE IN 1047 00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:14,500 CERTAIN WAYS. 1048 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:17,100 THEY WOULD WANT 1049 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:17,766 REPRESENTATIVE HALL 1050 00:24:17,766 --> 00:24:19,566 TO JUST SAY, WE ARE 1051 00:24:19,566 --> 00:24:20,266 REPUBLICANS, THIS IS 1052 00:24:20,266 --> 00:24:22,533 HOW WE WILL VOTE. 1053 00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:23,200 REPRESENTATIVE HALL 1054 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,233 SAID NO, YOU ARE 1055 00:24:25,233 --> 00:24:26,800 EACH ELECTED AND 1056 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,666 ACCOUNTABLE TO YOUR 1057 00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:28,933 DISTRICT. 1058 00:24:28,933 --> 00:24:30,233 YOU WILL VOTE HOW 1059 00:24:30,233 --> 00:24:31,166 YOU SEE FIT. 1060 00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:32,533 WE WON'T BULLY YOU 1061 00:24:32,533 --> 00:24:33,633 INTO VOTING A 1062 00:24:33,633 --> 00:24:34,566 CERTAIN WAY BUT 1063 00:24:34,566 --> 00:24:36,366 ALLOW YOU TO DO YOUR 1064 00:24:36,366 --> 00:24:36,866 JOB. 1065 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:37,800 >> I WANT TO TALK 1066 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,566 ABOUT SOME OF THE 1067 00:24:39,566 --> 00:24:40,866 VOTES YOU HAVE MADE. 1068 00:24:40,866 --> 00:24:42,200 YOU VOTED AGAINST 1069 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,133 FUNDING FOR THE 1070 00:24:43,133 --> 00:24:44,366 BATTERY PLANT 1071 00:24:44,366 --> 00:24:44,733 PROJECTS. 1072 00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,400 IF MY MEMORY SERVES 1073 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,766 ME CORRECTLY YOU 1074 00:24:47,766 --> 00:24:50,433 ALSO VOTED TO CREATE 1075 00:24:50,433 --> 00:24:51,366 THE FUNDING. 1076 00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:52,500 DO YOU FEEL LIKE 1077 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:53,666 THAT FUND IS NO 1078 00:24:53,666 --> 00:24:56,033 LONGER LIVING UP TO 1079 00:24:56,033 --> 00:24:57,566 IT'S USAGE? 1080 00:24:57,566 --> 00:24:59,200 >> LET ME DELINEATE. 1081 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,000 YES, I VOTED FOR THE 1082 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,833 FUNDING. 1083 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:11,066 I HAD DIVERTGETNNT 1084 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:11,333 VOTE. 1085 00:25:11,333 --> 00:25:12,700 INSIDE THE TRANSFER 1086 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,200 WAS MONEY DIRECTED 1087 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,533 TO GO TO WHAT IS 1088 00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:18,966 STILL BEING 1089 00:25:18,966 --> 00:25:19,700 INVESTIGATED BUT 1090 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,133 COMMONLY THOUGHT OF 1091 00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:23,166 AS THE CHINESE 1092 00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:23,533 PLANT. 1093 00:25:23,533 --> 00:25:26,666 ON THE OTHER SIDE, I 1094 00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:28,666 SPLIT FROM MY 1095 00:25:28,666 --> 00:25:28,900 CAUCUS. 1096 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,433 I THINK, AS YOU LOOK 1097 00:25:30,433 --> 00:25:32,000 AT VOTES YOU WERE TO 1098 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,233 SEE THAT I HAVE DONE 1099 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:34,966 MY BEST TO BE AS 1100 00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:35,900 THOUGHTFUL AS 1101 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:36,566 POSSIBLE. 1102 00:25:36,566 --> 00:25:37,300 >> WHO IS YOUR 1103 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:38,100 CANDIDATE FOR THE 1104 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,066 YOURSELF SENATE? 1105 00:25:39,066 --> 00:25:40,333 >> I THINK IT'S 1106 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:42,566 STILL PRETTY EARLY. 1107 00:25:42,566 --> 00:25:43,566 I LIKE, BECAUSE I 1108 00:25:43,566 --> 00:25:45,033 KNOW HIM I LIKE 1109 00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:46,633 CONGRESSMAN ROGERS. 1110 00:25:46,633 --> 00:25:48,533 I THINK, HE'S VERY 1111 00:25:48,533 --> 00:25:49,200 ARTICULATE AND BEEN 1112 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,233 THROUGH THE 1113 00:25:51,233 --> 00:25:52,333 POLITICAL BATTLE. 1114 00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:53,666 HE KNOWS HOW TO 1115 00:25:53,666 --> 00:25:54,666 RAISE MONEY AND 1116 00:25:54,666 --> 00:25:55,933 PROVEN TRACK RECORD. 1117 00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:56,966 THOSE ARE THREE 1118 00:25:56,966 --> 00:25:58,233 MAJOR THINGS WE MUST 1119 00:25:58,233 --> 00:25:59,366 LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK 1120 00:25:59,366 --> 00:26:01,100 AT CANDIDATES AND 1121 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:02,466 ESPECIALLY FOR 1122 00:26:02,466 --> 00:26:03,133 HIGHER OFFICE HAVE 1123 00:26:03,133 --> 00:26:03,933 THEY BEEN THROUGH 1124 00:26:03,933 --> 00:26:06,200 THE BATTLE AND HAVE 1125 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,333 THEY BEEN THROUGH A 1126 00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:08,466 CRUELING CAMPAIGN 1127 00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,600 AND DEAL WITH PEOPLE 1128 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,266 WHO ASK THE TOUGH 1129 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:12,533 QUESTIONS. 1130 00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:14,233 ARE THEY GOING TO 1131 00:26:14,233 --> 00:26:15,166 MAKE SURE THEY ARE 1132 00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:16,400 ABLE TO GET ACROSS 1133 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,300 THE FINISH LINE AND 1134 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:21,733 MAKE MAJOR BLUNDERS. 1135 00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:22,866 >> QUICK QUESTION, 1136 00:26:22,866 --> 00:26:26,966 DONALD TRUMP A YAY 1137 00:26:26,966 --> 00:26:28,300 OR NAY FOR THE 1138 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,466 PARTY? 1139 00:26:29,466 --> 00:26:33,366 >> IT'S YET TO BE 1140 00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:33,800 DETERMINED. 1141 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,200 >> THAT WAS A PUNT? 1142 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,533 >> CAN HE CAN CALL 1143 00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:37,266 IT THAT. 1144 00:26:37,266 --> 00:26:39,033 >> WHAT DO I OWE YOU 1145 00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:40,666 FOR THE PLUG? 1146 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:41,600 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1147 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,533 HAVE A NICE WEEK AND 1148 00:26:43,533 --> 00:26:44,966 SEE YOU FOR MORE 1149 00:26:44,966 --> 00:26:45,533 OFF-THE-RECORD NEXT 1150 00:26:45,533 --> 00:26:53,233 WEEK. 1151 00:26:53,233 --> 00:26:55,066 >> OFF THE RECORD 1152 00:26:55,066 --> 00:27:00,233 WAS MADE BY MARTIN 1153 00:27:00,233 --> 00:27:01,166 WAYMIRE. 1154 00:27:01,166 --> 00:27:03,066 LEARN MORE ON THEIR 1155 00:27:03,066 --> 00:27:03,433 WEBSITE. 1156 00:27:03,433 --> 00:27:05,266 FOR MORE OFF THE 1157 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:10,233 RECORD VISIT WKAR 1158 00:27:10,233 --> 00:27:10,533 WKAR.ORG.