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-My father was 
a Holocaust survivor.

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He had survived the same camp 
as Elie Wiesel.

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They were both the same age.

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And when my dad was alive, 
and through school,

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I was reading "Night."

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I was 14 years old, 
and I went to my dad

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and I said, "You know, 
I'm just reading this book.

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Is this the same Auschwitz 
because this is horrible."

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And my father said, "Oh, no, 
it's a different Auschwitz."

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So for a long time, I really 
thought there were two!

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You know, my father's Auschwitz

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was a kinder,

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gentler Auschwitz.

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There was never a moment

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where people were dying

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in front of him.

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They killed his siblings, 
and they killed his parents,

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and then from that moment on,

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it was a bunch of strong-willed 
boys, and they took over.

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...and they could hide it 
under their striped pajamas,

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as he called them.

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It was sort of like Robin Hood 
and his merry men

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meet the Nazis 
in my father's Auschwitz.

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And that was the story 
we were given.

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But when he was very, very sick 
in the hospital,

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and I knew I was losing him,

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I realized that 
there was no going back

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and that if I didn't 
make my move,

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I could not return 
to the moment

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of having access 
to his memories.

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And this time 
he was really tired

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and he wasn't feeling well.

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And I said, "I need to ask you

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about your time there, 
in Auschwitz, Dad.

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It's important."

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And I remember he looked at me,

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and he had real anger 
in his face and in his eyes.

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He said, "You know, Debbie,

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from the time 
that you were a young girl,

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you always asked your questions.

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And I always told you --

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'We got food, we got bread, 
we divided it up,

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we didn't suffer. 
It was fine.'

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And you keep bothering me 
and asking me the question.

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And I keep telling you, 
like as if I'm in a room,

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'Stop knocking on the door. 
Go away.

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I do not want to let you 
in this room.'

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And yet you keep coming back 
saying, 'Let me in.'"

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And he said, "So I'll ask you 
one more time to go away."

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And he said, "If you knock 
again, I'll let you in.

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But if I let you 
in this room..."

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And I said, "Yes, I do, Dad."

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And he was crying,

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and I remember 
he had covers on his body,

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because he was really skinny 
and very, very weak.

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And he kicked 
all the covers off,

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as if he was 
kicking down a door.

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And he said, 
"Fine. Come in then.

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Come in to a room 
that you can never leave.

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Come in."

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And then I said, 
"Can I ask you my questions?"

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He said, "You're in the room. 
You can ask anything."

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And I asked him everything 
that I ever wanted to ask.

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I asked him to tell me 
the real story.

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And he did.

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It was painful and scary 
and sickening.

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I felt a part of me had died.

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And he's right, once you're in 
that room, you can't get out.

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It's always with you.

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-My father was 
a Holocaust survivor.

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He had survived the same camp 
as Elie Wiesel.

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They were both the same age.

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And when my dad was alive, 
and through school,

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I was reading "Night."

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I was 14 years old, 
and I went to my dad

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and I said, "You know, 
I'm just reading this book.

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Is this the same Auschwitz 
because this is horrible."

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And my father said, "Oh, no, 
it's a different Auschwitz."

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So for a long time, I really 
thought there were two!

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You know, my father's Auschwitz

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was a kinder,

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gentler Auschwitz.

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There was never a moment

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where people were dying

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in front of him.

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They killed his siblings, 
and they killed his parents,

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and then from that moment on,

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it was a bunch of strong-willed 
boys, and they took over.

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...and they could hide it 
under their striped pajamas,

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as he called them.

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It was sort of like Robin Hood 
and his merry men

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meet the Nazis 
in my father's Auschwitz.

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And that was the story 
we were given.

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But when he was very, very sick 
in the hospital,

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and I knew I was losing him,

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I realized that 
there was no going back

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and that if I didn't 
make my move,

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I could not return 
to the moment

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of having access 
to his memories.

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And this time 
he was really tired

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and he wasn't feeling well.

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And I said, "I need to ask you

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about your time there, 
in Auschwitz, Dad.

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It's important."

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And I remember he looked at me,

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and he had real anger 
in his face and in his eyes.

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He said, "You know, Debbie,

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from the time 
that you were a young girl,

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you always asked your questions.

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And I always told you --

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'We got food, we got bread, 
we divided it up,

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we didn't suffer. 
It was fine.'

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And you keep bothering me 
and asking me the question.

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And I keep telling you, 
like as if I'm in a room,

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'Stop knocking on the door. 
Go away.

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I do not want to let you 
in this room.'

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And yet you keep coming back 
saying, 'Let me in.'"

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And he said, "So I'll ask you 
one more time to go away."

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And he said, "If you knock 
again, I'll let you in.

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But if I let you 
in this room..."

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And I said, "Yes, I do, Dad."

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And he was crying,

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and I remember 
he had covers on his body,

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because he was really skinny 
and very, very weak.

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And he kicked 
all the covers off,

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as if he was 
kicking down a door.

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And he said, 
"Fine. Come in then.

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Come in to a room 
that you can never leave.

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Come in."

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And then I said, 
"Can I ask you my questions?"

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He said, "You're in the room. 
You can ask anything."

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And I asked him everything 
that I ever wanted to ask.

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I asked him to tell me 
the real story.

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And he did.

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It was painful and scary 
and sickening.

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I felt a part of me had died.

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And he's right, once you're in 
that room, you can't get out.

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It's always with you.

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